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Vern's Ultimate look at the TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE Ultimate 2-disc DVD!!!

God bless you Vern. by brycemonkey	Sep 25th, 2006 12:49:33 PM
That is all.
Umm... by kbass	Sep 25th, 2006 12:55:05 PM
Despite being trumpeted as "Ultimate," "Greatest," "Bestest" or just "Stuff you've never seen before!" This is still a double (triple? quadruple?) dip and it drives me crazy. I won't be buying it, both on principal and the fact I already have a pretty good version of the film.
Yeah, I already have one of the previous SEs by brycemonkey	Sep 25th, 2006 01:00:19 PM
I'm not sure that I'd want to double dip it (or get sloppy seconds). To be truthful I don't watch it all that often... and I love horror.
webSITE not webSIGHT by whoopdeedoo	Sep 25th, 2006 01:08:58 PM
Just wanted to point that out to Vern since he got so hung up on the spelling of chain saw. Nice review though. I may have to check this one out. I'm not much of a chain saw fan but hey it comes in a metal case so it has to be good, right?
sounds like a purchase by imkindofabigdeal	Sep 25th, 2006 01:14:38 PM
Is the newest one going to be a total suckfest????
Sigh. Isn't this like the 17th time on DVD? by Trazadone	Sep 25th, 2006 01:20:21 PM
Seriously, is anyone out there so intrigued about the "extras" that they would purchase this once again? I'm fully expecting that Evil Dead will soon come out in a "Super-Duper edition, now with commentary from the key grip!" God, who cares.
Actually, Vern, "alot" is not a word... by Ace Hunter	Sep 25th, 2006 01:26:08 PM
... it is "a lot". Yes. I am a spelling nazi. Thanks for the DVD review. It's on my "must-buy" list now.
Guys, seriously, stop correcting Vern's spelling... by raw_bean	Sep 25th, 2006 01:46:13 PM
He knows how to spell. The 'alot' thing was a joke and he always deliberately mis-spells website. If you're ever inclined to think Vern's made a mistake of some kind in a review, stop and read it again and you'll usually find it's a joke.
come on by axemurder	Sep 25th, 2006 01:58:51 PM
you bastards! How can yo not want to buy this and see leatherface do the dance of love with chainsaws better than you never seen it before?? oh people don't let me down, this is awesome and a must buy for halloween time.
to Trazadone by Vern	Sep 25th, 2006 02:09:13 PM
I think my review already answered your question in detail. I did buy it and I do care. They don't send me review copies. I was able to pull some strings to sneakily get mine a couple days early, but I did pay for it, and I am not in a position where I can afford to buy all the DVDs I want. But I'm glad I bought it. If you're not convinced by what I said above then definitely do not buy it. But I think people like Chickychow who share my obsession with this movie will be impressed by the new edition. Plus, there's probaly somebody out there who doesn't have the old editions, or who stepped on their old one and crushed it so they have been waiting for a new version where the case is made out of metal.
which edition? by radjac33	Sep 25th, 2006 02:29:53 PM
the meat packers edition
You know, Vern... by Childe Roland	Sep 25th, 2006 02:34:51 PM
...usually I'm right with you in terms of cinematic tastes, but where TCM is concerned, I've never been able to get over the feeling that this movie was grossly overrated. Maybe it's because I had to wait until I was nearly thirteen and sleeping over at a friend's house to see it (this movie was the one my parents absolutely forbade me to see - based solely on it's rep) and, by then, it'd been hyped to me by an older friend beyond any hope of living up to itself. But compared to some of the other classic horror I'd been exposed to by then (NOTLD, Halloween, The Thing, Nightmare on Elm Street) it seemed downright lame. Maybe if I'd been old enough to catch it in the theater instead of having to wait for the tape (can't recall if we watched it on BETA or VHS) I'd have the same reverence for it that so many seem to have, but if you sat me down with a DVD player and the choice between watching the original and the remake, I'd pick Jessica Biel's bouncy, moist pair and some quality R. Lee insanity every time. I agree with you that the sequel's underrated, though. That I dug.This "Ultimate" DVD set? I'll pass.
Childe: right on. by brycemonkey	Sep 25th, 2006 02:51:42 PM
I guess I'm younger than you but never saw it until I got a SE on DVD. As I said above I like it but don't really feel the need to watch it often. Prehaps it's impact on subsequent movies makes the originator seem, well, less compelling. Although I'm not sure about the remake (even with bouncy Biel boobies). There is a time and a place for BBB but not in serious movies ;-)
Mr. Roland by Vern	Sep 25th, 2006 02:52:25 PM
I think this came up before, but I can't remember - did you ever go back and watch it again? If not, you seriously should rent this version and watch it. Most of what's great about this movie is not something you can appreciate at 13. Plus, seeing it widescreen will make a hell of a difference. I really think if you watch it and are not sold you will at least agree that it's better than that Jessica Biel horse shit. R. Lee Ermey is good in that but not as good as Jim Siedow.
Plasma Burn-In...and other myths. by Praetorius	Sep 25th, 2006 03:06:35 PM
Why on earth would you call a 16x9 tv expensive? They're $500. If you read this site then you care how your movies look. Give me a fucking break.
I have to admit, Vern... by Childe Roland	Sep 25th, 2006 04:12:19 PM
...I didn't get around to renting and rewatching this. I was gearing up toward it with House of 1000 Corpses and Devil's Rejects a couple months ago, but my wife's reaction to those two-in-a-row selections got me temporarily banned from renting anything without prior consultation/authorization (some crap about her needs not being met by my choices...blah, blah, blah). She's going out of town for the night in a couple of weeks, so I'll put this in the queue and give it another run then.
I much prefer Ultimate Leatherface to 616 Leatherface. by OBSD	Sep 25th, 2006 04:28:03 PM
Heh... I'm a dork.
Praetorius by Vern	Sep 25th, 2006 04:30:15 PM
you're probaly right bud. If you want to dig up some change from your couch to buy me one of those things I'll give you the mailing address. thanks in advance friend.
Vern, what is the status of the Seagalogy by comedian_x	Sep 25th, 2006 04:35:27 PM
book. This has nothing to do with chain saws or chainsaws, but I need to know.
"What does the Bible say about this?" by Some Dude	Sep 25th, 2006 04:43:14 PM
Outstanding, Vern. Outstanding.
I found the 2003 DVD by Mechasheeva	Sep 25th, 2006 05:02:50 PM
for 3.50 at a Gamestop brand new. The best moment in my life, probably.
Groovy trailer by Subovon	Sep 25th, 2006 05:26:58 PM
I'm glad to hear someone else likes the TX Chainsaw 3 trailer, too. I also have a soft spot for how silly it is. I feel the same way about the similar trailer to Friday the 13th part 8: Jason Takes Manhattan. Great trailer for a terrible z-grade flick.
Comedian #X by Vern	Sep 25th, 2006 07:28:14 PM
The status of Seagalogy is still work in progress, but I'm getting there. I'm trying to kick it into high gear. I have a goal for when I want it to be done, but I'm not gonna say when it is because if it's not good enough then I'm gonna keep working. But right now I'm going back through all the chapters, filling in holes where I didn't finish things and fine tuning what's there. Thanks for asking. Hopefully you will like it, sorry to keep you waiting.
There's no such word as 'alot' by hamo455	Sep 25th, 2006 08:26:01 PM
Ask your English teacher. It's a made up word. Like 'nizzle'.
I always thought it would make a great commercial... by Zeke25:17	Sep 25th, 2006 08:51:42 PM
...if Husqvarna ran an ad for their chainsaws (yes, that's ONE WORD, dammit, just like "a lot" is two) in which some guy whose face you never see says something like: "You know, when you're a mass murderer, you need a chainsaw that can cut through all kinds of things. Torsos, necks, legs, you name it. Also, it has to take the punishment of constant jostling when you're running through the woods after some nubile coed who weighs maybe one-fifteen tops, and can run a lot faster than you! That's why I always go with Husqvarna. And with the backsplash shield, there's much less blood getting on your clothes, which will make your Maw really happy." Sales would go through the roof, huh? And by the way, I LIKED the remake, and offer a big fat bronx cheer to those who don't. (Or, as Opus might have said: PRBBBLBBBT!)
The remake... by jojo-pimp	Sep 25th, 2006 09:00:02 PM
damn...the remake really was not that bad!! I mean, I am definately one of those who is opposed to all the shitty remakes of recent years, but as far as the hollywoodized remakes of recent years go, that one was pretty decent, and introduced a whole new generation to Leatherface.
the fucking remake by Vern	Sep 25th, 2006 10:01:42 PM
Well no, I wouldn't hate the remake as much if I didn't love the real one so much. And I do have a couple nice things to say about it. I liked the part where fake Leatherface had a mask that was identifiable as the dude he just killed (Eric Balfour I think). R. Lee Ermey is good and is about the only one who seems to be familiar with the spirit of the original movie. However, he does not have the depth of Jim Siedow's character who he's based on, because Siedow's cook keeps apologizing and trying to be polite while also getting a kick out of torturing Sally, and R. Lee's is just straight up evil and perverted. Also it is nicely shot. Otherwise though it just made me mad because it took everything that is so great and genuine about the original and replaced it with corny Hollywood bullshit. Instead of just being some kids visiting their old family property, now they're guilty because they're smuggling pot (slasher movie cliche invented after TCSM) and are connected to the girl's suicide (I KNOW WHAT YOU DID LAST SUMMER). Instead of the indecipherable features of Leatherface's masks you get a monstrous evil brow, like he purposely made the mask to look like a spooky demonic Halloween mask. Instead of the mystery of who the fuck these guys are you get a ridiculous backstory about Leatherface being picked on as a kid (that one still makes me curse). Instead of actual Texans dressed like real people you got WB actors wearing cowboy hats and faking stereotypical twangs. Instead of the incredibly tense chase across the property you get this Renny Harlin haunted house shit where she hides in a slaughterhouse and gets frightened by rats. Might as well have had some bats flying through there too. And no dinner scene, and very little family interaction, like they thought it was only about Leatherface. I don't mean to be a snob, you guys have every right to enjoy this movie, but can't you see how somebody who loves the original would be pissed off by that shit? Imagine if Michael Bay remade your favorite transformables or whatever, and seemed like he didn't even know what it was or that anybody gave a shit about it. THAT'S how I feel. That is my pain. Times ten. Minus flames.
God Bless Don May Jr. and Darkskys for this DVD by sentient	Sep 25th, 2006 10:16:35 PM
I'm a self proclaimed TCSM fan. I've been trying to resculpt a perfect spot on replica of the Hunter Killer mask for ages now. With this DVD I shall finally finish one such attempt that has been resting in a black plastic garbage bag in my closet for over a year now with 2 years worth of free time worked on it! I've analyzed Internet posted selected screencaps between the Pioneer/MPI DVD and the Darksky Version and there is a massive difference! To give you an idea of what kind of mental torture I put myself through in trying to recapture shape perfect the look of the HK mask well lets just say that I've watched, paused, and frame advanced the Leatherface panic in the rocking chair many many times- for 4 or more hours a day 2-3 times a week for over 2 years! I saw nice high res screen caps of this very scene from Horrordvd.com and I'm sold. Fuck that!! I was sold 2 years ago when this was announced. I own the Laserdisc- no player. I own the shitty wrong transfer Pioneer DVD, and the 2003 version which has a different moon dissolve, I even have a few VHS copies as well as a Betamax version. This is no double dip. it's not from MPI or Pioneer. The same guy who did the original Laserdisc version. Mr Don May- remastered this version. It's not the same one that on the 1999 DVD or the 2003. No this isn't even the same one that Don May made 1080p for MonsterHD. No this is a total rescan of the original 16mm eco at near 4k resolution. Using some of the same machines used on the Remastered Star Wars DVD. Theres a big difference is that the film grain isn't gone but the artifacts and film tears are- the color isn't punched up it's honest color now. The image quality is night and Day. the laserdisc is better than the MPI Pioneer DVD. MPI use The wrong Transfer and unfinished version of the Transfer made for the Laserdisc for that DVD. If your a real TCSM fan then you need to know this is the DVD to own! There is a 1080i HD version of this transfer, but it wont come out for a long long time.... It wont come out until one of these new HD players/formats takes a real hold and healthy sales can be made. ----------------------------- The right guy worked on this DVD- he wasn't part of the Pioneer/MPI DVD- They retransfered that transfer behind his back. Sure it was his transfer made for the LAserdisc on that DVD all-be-it the wrong one. Now he's back! And this is his statement, his testament he skill set. He put oddles of time into this remaster for the fans like him. Damn it this is no double dip. this is the one! Don May will also work on a DVD for Anchorbay containing all of the unused original Camera negatives film found from John Carpenters Halloween for it's 30th anniversary. Michael dies in the end on one roll of film. Don't underestimate it!
Thanks for answering. The wait is no problem. by comedian_x	Sep 25th, 2006 10:28:28 PM
However, I wouldn't want any other author to get the jump on you and publish it first. Although I am sure yours will be the definitive version no matter what.
imagecompare by sentient	Sep 25th, 2006 10:29:00 PM
http://tinyurl.com/hysxy You can now see the image information on the side of the mask thats hidden the shadows in this scene on the darksky release (even more so if you brighten up the image) the color of Gunnars eyelids is present as well as his eye color and the cones in that eye + I can count the eyelashes on the eyeholes in the mask now as well as see whats really in the head damaged area of that mask. Fuck the older MPI release! Fuck it in it's wrong transfered ass!
Wake me when they do a deluxe edition of TCM2. by rev_skarekroe	Sep 26th, 2006 10:37:49 AM
Seriously, most people don't give that one nearly enough credit. Also, do we really need a "crisper" version of the original? Ideally, this is a film that should be shown on a grainy old 16mm projector in someone's basement for maximum horror effect. Leave the super-clean digital whojamawhutsits to Lucas and Spielberg.
sentient wins by Daddylonghead	Sep 26th, 2006 11:34:22 AM
Now THAT's a fan! P.S. FUCK THE REMAKE(S)
Remake was shit by magic_ninja	Sep 26th, 2006 12:48:11 PM
70's era Jessica Biel wearing modern day lowrider jeans? Wait, how do you know they're in the 70's? Oh, that's right, they're going to a SKYNARD show and they hope they play FREE BIRD. The remake fucking sucked and anyone that thinks it was better than the original is a fucking moron.
Rev. Skarekroe: Wake up! by FatPaul	Sep 26th, 2006 01:51:19 PM
Yeah, they're doing a deluxe edition of TCM2. It comes out on the 10th. I think Vern mentioned it in the article. They're calling it the "Gruesome Edition."
Thanks for the info, FatPaul by rev_skarekroe	Sep 26th, 2006 04:13:49 PM
Looking forward to it!
Part 2 by Vern	Sep 28th, 2006 12:21:27 PM
I got an email from the guy who did the "FLESH WOUNDS" documentary I wrote about, and it turns out he also produced the extras for the part 2 DVD. I think this is good news, Rev Skarekroe, because it indicates they will not be half-assed filler extras, but the real deal. If anybody disagrees, a wise movie character once said, "lick my plate ya dog dick."
spoof by zepfer	Sep 28th, 2006 09:30:51 PM
any one remember the sctv skit where johncandy and joe flaherty walk through a door dressed as hicks armed with hammeres and ogle something offscreen remarking creepily on how pretty who there looking at is then step forward and proceed to bash the hell out of a table full of chainsaws while the narrator announces the release of the film Texas Chian saw massacre? At least i thought it was funny, though i was twleve and had only heard of the film..

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