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Harry gets blown away by Terry Gilliam's TIDELAND @ Fantastic Fest!!!

Harry, you are apparently blown away very easily... by Bob Cryptonight	Sep 22nd, 2006 11:17:19 PM
And everything is a masterpiece. Sheesh!
ferst by damagedinc	Sep 22nd, 2006 11:22:21 PM
i'm just tryin
Pan's Labyrinth 2: Electric Boogaloo by BeeDub	Sep 22nd, 2006 11:24:11 PM
Don't tell me I'm the only one who's thought that.
Remember when Harry was blown away by MONSTER HOUSE? by YackBacker	Sep 22nd, 2006 11:40:38 PM
I bet they're still counting those box office receipts at Zemeckis' office as we speak, Harold. Man, what a runaway winner...
Don't know about the movie... by boingo2000	Sep 23rd, 2006 12:44:52 AM
Gilliam's great and all, but I read the book and it sucked. Please, Gods of Cinema, tell me this film ends (unlike the book, which just... stopped).
Sure, Harry's hyperbolic, but... by rbatty024	Sep 23rd, 2006 12:50:47 AM
that's part of the homespun charm of Ain't it Cool News. Everyone here's more of a fan than a critic. It means their opinions are worth a grain of salt, but it also means when you read their stuff you remember how great movies can be. I'm looking forward to Gilliam's latest.
I haven't read the reveiw but... by ScarranHalfBreed	Sep 23rd, 2006 01:10:06 AM
...does he like it? DOES HE???? WELL, DOES HEEE??????
I didn't read past masterpiece by Merkin Muffley	Sep 23rd, 2006 02:20:53 AM
because I don't wanna no spoilers. But PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE Tideland, be good. Gilliam, I've had to stop telling people you're my favorite director for some time now, but I'm more than willing to get back on the bandwagon, you brilliant, frustrating, mad fucker!
Saw it tonight ... FUCKING LOVED IT!!!!!!! by Rearden	Sep 23rd, 2006 02:37:12 AM
The scenes between Rose and the mentaly handicapped Dickens will completely FLOOR YOU! Not b/c they're ugly or hard to watch, but b/c they are so stunningly executed and completely sincere that they will stay with you forever. A truly beautiful film. (if I sent in a review, I wonder if they would post it here ... I don't want to be one of those jerks who posts a whole review in the talkbacks) SEE TIDELAND. It is bliss.
datelinenbc beckons by drturing	Sep 23rd, 2006 03:57:39 AM
i love me some gilliam but harry loves any movie in which a child has a physical relationship with an adult. or at least a little girl. this isnt to offend harry, it's just true. and with the way he's been writing about women lately... it's just gross.
i disagee with you harry by Sam Raimi's Car	Sep 23rd, 2006 07:22:20 AM
loving tideland and hating american psycho. sigh. i don't think we should see each other anymore. our differences are just too great...
saw this some months ago by Windowlicker74	Sep 23rd, 2006 07:31:54 AM
I read the book first, but, as the above poster said, it sucks, then I went to see the movie( big Gilliam fan here): great imagery, mildly shocking( thats good), but the scenes with Dickens just kept on going to the point that it became boring ;; unbelievable but true...I thought I was watching a 3 hour movie.. then I went to see the Bukowski movie Factotum with Dillon and that movie was just awesome..( this was all in the beginning of the summer, when do these movies come out in the US?)
great film by Jarek	Sep 23rd, 2006 07:40:53 AM
Saw this a couple of weeks ago and I too was blown away. It's VERY dark and probably the best Gilliam work since Brazil. I'm amazed they could get a child actor to do some of these scenes... moreso because her performance leads you to believe that she understands it.
Masterfully acted and directed. by geekzapoppin	Sep 23rd, 2006 09:14:19 AM
But I don't ever want to see it again. It's one of the most disturbing films I've seen in a long time. Is it good? Yes. It's the best film that Gilliam has made in a long time. However, it's profoundly painful to watch. I kept wanting to reach into the screen and take that little girl out of the hell she's living in. (No pedophile jokes...) Fans of Gilliam's work should definitely give it a shot, but be prepared for an uncomfortable journey.
10/10 by godoffireinhell	Sep 23rd, 2006 09:25:55 AM
Gilliam's best since 12 MONKEYS.
Holy crap, what exactly happens to the girl? by Nice Marmot	Sep 23rd, 2006 10:27:46 AM
I've been waiting for this just because it's Gilliam but never bothered to learn the premise. Now I'm getting a bad sick vibe from the posts I'm reading. What happens to the girl in this thing???
Nice Marmot..basically by Avon	Sep 23rd, 2006 11:46:47 AM
It's more the stuff she see's and has to do. She helps her parents inject drugs, her sick bitch mum OD's, her Dad od's (and later gets stuff like an animal)... some freaky shit. And basically everyone around her is fucked up, leading you to believe she'll either live out her days as a twisted/sick individual or find salvation. Basically everyone barring one person around her is still alive by the end.
Not an entertaining film but a good one by CommanderSpike	Sep 23rd, 2006 11:54:21 AM
Saw this in Manchester (UK) with Gilliam in attendance...he said the film divided audiences. I found the film to be very uncomfortable viewing, and although it was an unpleasent experience it gets you thinking. Gilliam is pushing the boundaries with this one...playing with how much the audience can stomach. I'd rather see a brave but flawed film like this than a safely softly hollywood film any day.
Great Movie by BeatsMe	Sep 23rd, 2006 04:18:42 PM
Definitely his best since Brazil. It is hard to take, and the ending sort of drops the ball, but overall it hangs together as an amazing portrait of a kid coping with loneliness and abuse.
What happens to the girl ... by godoffireinhell	Sep 23rd, 2006 04:19:46 PM
She gets to make out with the retard. It's an innocent scene, it's the viewers minds that are dirty...
when by Lil LoLo	Sep 23rd, 2006 06:33:31 PM
will this be released for me to see?
WHEN DOES IT RELEASE? by scrivener	Sep 23rd, 2006 06:42:05 PM
Even in limited release, there's usually somewhere around here in SoCal that'll play it. I've been waiting for this movie for YEARS and I am really, truely getting tired of waiting. Also, I've tried to shelter myself completely from what happens in the movie - so fuck you, Harry for blowing the father dies bit without a hint of spoiler warning.
Remember when Harry was blown... by cornstalkwalker	Sep 23rd, 2006 08:36:35 PM
by that dude in drag. Oh wait, I'm not supposed to talk about that. Just ignore this post.
Gilliam=Genius but obsessed w/ the Fisher King! by msspurlock	Sep 23rd, 2006 08:40:17 PM
Not that it's a problem. I'm a big fan of the Grail legends. It's just that there are two themes that run through all of his post-Time Bandits films: dystopia and a wounded king figure. Doesn't matter. I'll see it, and eventually own it, of course.
This film has been and gone in the UK and Ireland by emeraldboy	Sep 24th, 2006 05:56:02 AM
where it was torched and roasted byt the critics who saw it. In ireland it was dumped in the IFI where it ran for a week. I saw Gilliams last film the one he made with the Weinsteins. Which was mediocre in the extreme despite some flashes of gilliam brilliance namel the scene with the horse and the man eating trees. Studios have lost intrest with gilliam and despite his don quixote doc. I dont think we will ever see Gilliam at his visual best ever again. Shame really.
Yeah it was in & out of the UK before in a flash by pokadoo	Sep 24th, 2006 09:47:35 AM
I missed it and had to Torrent it :( But it was from a Russian DVD. It must be available there, because it was perfect quality. It was pretty disturbing, not an easy film to watch, but I did really like it! It was a triumphant return for Gillium, after The Brothers Grimm (which is not terrible, just an "entertaining mess"). It looked beautiful, and that girl was amazing, for a child actor. I'm curious to see Pans Labyrinth (which is a newer film than Tideland,'BeeDub') when it comes out, to see how they compare.
Hey, what's wrong with Monster House and Roll Bounce? by Lenny Nero	Sep 24th, 2006 02:57:12 PM
(message goes here)
Gilliam: as overrated as Tim Burton by NotFunny	Sep 25th, 2006 06:12:07 AM
Both these guys need producers who can tell them WHEN TO CUT THE CRAP: they both get lost in their visual stylings, both have trouble keeping the narrative flow GOING and both ride on an overblown cult following. Just look at LOST IN LA MANCHA and you'll see Gilliam giggling like a little girl at his own grotesque images. It's been more than a decade since I was excited by these guys upcoming films. Nuff said.
monsterhouse by emeraldboy	Sep 25th, 2006 03:24:14 PM
is one of the best animated films i have seen this year. The screenplay was great. The animation was a vast improvement on the polar express. I loved the actually story surrounding the house, I thought it was very touching. Man Resuces wife from freak show. builds her a house. Wife dies. Man buries wife in the basement but wife isnt dead and takes over the house every year at halloween. Chowder was one of the best wrtten characters in a toon in years. This was one of the smartest darkest animated films in along time. I loved the little moments with the moving blades of grass. The two cops were hilarious. This is the first animated film in which the teens get intelligent girlfriends. Bone was also an excellent character and i dont seem to remember making out scenes with the baby sitter in any other animated film recently. Gil Kenan is one to watch.
It's been my experience that when Harry is blown away by NapoleonDynamite	Sep 26th, 2006 04:01:30 PM
by something and everyone says it sucks, everyone else always turns out to be right. Remember Episode 2? Remember Captain Sky Pilot's World of Tomorrow or whatever the fuck it was called? I wish I could trust you, Harry, but you're way too easily impressed these days.
Folks, this film is APPALLING (and I love Gilliam) by zoothorn21	Sep 26th, 2006 06:11:31 PM
Don't often write, but I am utterly mystified by the review and some of the comments here. The people who are saying that this is Gilliam's best work since Brazil genuinely need to go back and look at his other work. Brothers Grimm is undoubtedly his weakest work, but Tideland runs it a very close second. The film feels endless, principally because after a manic first 15 minutes, the entire thing grinds to a halt for nearly 2 hours. I can handle plotless films no problem but Tideland is utterly directionless. The film is shockingly photographed - all dutched angles with no connecting thread between them - it looks like Battlefield Earth and will make you long for the days of Roger Pratt's considered and stately cinematography. However the biggest problem is the total lack of focus in terms of how we are supposed to be viewing the film - Gilliam has said that the film needs to be seen through a child's eyes, but that's ignored from the start (SPOILER - we know her dad is dead but she doesn't - END SPOILER) because the film is clearly shot through an adult filter - we DON'T just see what Jeliza Rose sees, we know far more, which makes some scenes, which some have called 'daring', simply distasteful and silly. Gilliam is way, way off course - this looks thrown together and cuts far too corners in terms of narrative and drive. I left the cinema thoroughly miserable - the U.K. critics were right to slate this - Gilliam can do so, so much better.
Terry Gilliam by OhDaesu	Sep 26th, 2006 09:17:21 PM
Terry Gilliam is the most misunderstood filmmaker of our time. People seem to forget the classics he's made. Fear and Loathing, 12 Monkeys and Brazil alone are landmark films. Tim Burton wishes he had an ounce of Terry Gilliam's directorial talent. That being said I feel that Tideland is one of his best films. This film could have suffered at the hands of the wrong director but Terry really knows what he's doing. Watching the film is like stepping into a dream/nightmare.
God, please let this be good... by Jellyfishing	Sep 27th, 2006 07:48:24 PM
We need more good Gilliam!!!!
Drug Addled Weirdness by robotfist42	Sep 28th, 2006 05:42:20 PM
I love odd drug movies. Fear and Loathing was fantastic. Check out the local news as seen through the eyes of a PCP addict... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =3NnlM-WRIcI
Harry, can you intro me to your dealer? by artsnob	Sep 29th, 2006 02:42:26 PM
I don't do anything stronger than weed as a rule, but if there's a drug that will make me see TIDELAND as a good movie, I've just GOT to try it! (And YES, I've seen it ... at the 2005 Toronto Film Fest, where it went over like a lead brick.)
Toronto & Gunning For Gilliam by Filmskinboots	Sep 29th, 2006 07:51:27 PM
Yeah, artsnob, I was at Toronto too, and the response to Tideland was unkind almost even before the first frame was shown. I was at one of the press screenings, but I actually thought the film was really interesting and didn't deserve most of the backlash it was getting. That experience in Toronto also left me with this weird feeling that maybe there should be some unspoken ethics to reviewing films...you know, like maybe reviewers should be required to sit through a film before reviewing it. At the Toronto press screening, the walkouts were in droves. Within the first 20 to 30 mins. of the film, "respectable" journalists from the trades had abandoned their seats, and then they went on to damn the film in print without having watched most of it. This fostered bad bad word of mouth that was then picked up by film "reviewers" elsewhere who had yet to see the film, and who probably still haven't seen it. One of the film critics for the Ft. Worth Star-Telegram trashed the film based solely on the word of mouth, and Ain't-It-Cool-Wanna-be sites like the lame Cinema Blend have panned it based on everything except a personal viewing. It also strikes me as weird that the focus has been entirely on the poor reviews instead of the variety of really positive, insightful critiques that have come from a variety of legit sources. I mean, christ, the film went on to win the Fipresci Prize from international critics in Spain right after being damned in Toronto, but you're not going to find anyone bringing that up online. At least you sat through it, artsnob, and so did I. I admit I wasn't as blown away by the film as Harry was, but I found it to be really interesting. It felt more like vintage Gillam to me than anything the man has done in the past twenty years.
Harry Gets Blown Too Easily. by HaveCameraWillTravel	Oct 1st, 2006 07:20:09 PM
He is always finding a "masterpiece" in a bad movie or "getting blown away" by brainless drivel disquised as a film. Still, got to love him for having an opinion and his excitment level for what he sees.
TIdeland and Gilliam in Toronto again Monday by hippolyta	Oct 7th, 2006 03:50:18 PM
But it's fracking Thanksgiving and I have to spend the day with fracking family!
drugs-films by lavatory love machine	Oct 8th, 2006 12:59:05 AM
saw it last night, don't know what to think about it yet, I'm a huge gillian fan, the images are great, but the pace if off, she goes to the woman's house like four times in the movie, it's to much of the same on the other hand this film is deeply shocking, I wacht so many movies that very few still have an effect on me, most it's just to pass the time, but this one doesn't allow you to be indiferent, and that's something, and for me is enough
I saw it in Moscow by alzhu	Oct 20th, 2006 09:31:46 PM
and i cried a lot. Gilliam should have sold his soul to the satan to make such masterpiece. Just amazing!
Dear Notfunny: In re: Gilliam "giggling like..." by heywood jablomie	Oct 22nd, 2006 04:09:17 AM
"...a little girl at his own grotesque images." I giggle like a little girl at his grotesque images.
Dear Notfunny: In re: Gilliam "giggling like..." by heywood jablomie	Oct 22nd, 2006 04:09:22 AM
"...a little girl at his own grotesque images." I giggle like a little girl at his grotesque images.
Dear Notfunny: In re: Gilliam "giggling like..." by heywood jablomie	Oct 22nd, 2006 04:09:28 AM
"...a little girl at his own grotesque images." I giggle like a little girl at his grotesque images.
Indeed... by Quintus_Arrius	Mar 9th, 2007 10:22:23 PM
.... I am last!
If you insist by Orcus	Mar 15th, 2007 08:27:58 AM
FEH
Oh, I do... bastard! by Quintus_Arrius	May 16th, 2007 07:09:42 AM
Your go...
That's Mr bastard. I have a title you know by Orcus	May 17th, 2007 02:41:40 PM
:)
OK... How about by Quintus_Arrius	May 20th, 2007 03:14:48 PM
Lord Bastard? How does that fit you?
Hmmmm by Orcus	May 21st, 2007 06:38:06 AM
Doesn't really roll of the tongue now does it? I think I'll keep my title of Roman God of the Underworld. BTW, you have been busy :)

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