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first by TheMauler	Sep 19th, 2006 03:22:32 AM
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First by Bob of the Shire	Sep 19th, 2006 03:25:57 AM
BSG OMG
That $127 for Andromeda... by photoboy	Sep 19th, 2006 03:28:52 AM
... that's what they pay you to take it off their hands, right? I'd like to buy the S2 sets of Galactica but being Region 2 I've been double dipped badly so I'm not buying any of them till I'm certain which region has the best set.
You can add that Ellen cover to... by Shermdawg	Sep 19th, 2006 03:34:10 AM
the alltime worst dvd covers list. It looks like a magazine ad. And whats with the gigantic blurb? You're supposed to stick that shit on the back, or at least don't make it that f'n huge.
What's this about an extended "Pegasus"?? by ImJustABill	Sep 19th, 2006 06:45:06 AM
What's this about an extended "Pegasus" episode on the BSG 2.5 dvd set??
Look, I know we've all already seen Galactica season 2 by MissusCalabash	Sep 19th, 2006 06:49:43 AM
But I say that people who divulge spoilers without spoiler warnings are assholes. Curse you Hercules!
Sorry Herc- The Shield was better than BSG. WAY better. by The Wrong Guy	Sep 19th, 2006 07:11:50 AM
Seriously...television does not get better than The Shield Season 5. The finale especially.
I'd like to buy BSG season 2... by Preacher_mg	Sep 19th, 2006 08:01:36 AM
But not for $68 for the entire season, which is what Amazon is offering right now (2.0+2.5 combo). That's $20-$30 more than the lates seasons of most other shows, and this show doesn't even have as many episodes as most other shows. I love BSG and all but I'm not that much of a sucker.
extended 'Pegasus' by newc0253	Sep 19th, 2006 08:22:05 AM
that's one really long flying horse. ba-da-bing! but seriously, you might have said something about what's been added...
Coffee is for closers. by Barry Egan	Sep 19th, 2006 08:25:45 AM
Third prize is your fired. God bless Mamet.
JustaBill, OnlyaBill, Sitting here on AICN by FluffyUnbound	Sep 19th, 2006 08:29:20 AM
There was 15-20 minutes of footage not used for the broadcast version of Pegasus 1 and 2. It's restored to the DVD versions.
The Unit by TheBaxter	Sep 19th, 2006 09:45:56 AM
it's about time someone made a show about my genitalia. go out and buy it now kids, it is one special dvd "package"
Fucking Boston Legal BITCHES!! by theoneofblood	Sep 19th, 2006 10:46:36 AM
Oh man, truly the greatest thing on television at the moment, second only to The Wire for consistently awesome television. Finally somebody gives Shatner something useful to do besides aping his Kirk image. Having said that, it'd be the coolest thing ever if Leonard Nimoy had a guest spot in season 3.
oh, thank god, more Amazon referrer links... by Strabo	Sep 19th, 2006 10:59:50 AM
I...I don't know what's wrong with me. I've developed this sick fascination with articles full of Amazon referrer links. I...I start to touch myself when I see them...I know it's wrong, but it just feels so good, I just can't stop. Please, please, Herc, please give us more Amazon Referrer link laden articles. I don't know what I'll do if you stop. I'll kill myself, I swear!
What Preacher_mg said! by Dmann	Sep 19th, 2006 11:00:13 AM
Exactly. I understand that the half season release for 1 was because the show was split, yadda yadda...but this close to the beginning of a new season, they should have a full Season 2 out and available.
Just finished BG 2.0 by Lovecraftfan	Sep 19th, 2006 11:06:06 AM
It was fantastic. What are you guys complaining about? Cant wait to see 2.5
BSG is expensive, but... by wash	Sep 19th, 2006 12:39:55 PM
thank Bob it's still on the air. It's the best sci-fi tv show in like forever, and it's worth supporting, especially since 99.9 percent of the show's fanbase are fucking cheapskates who think that whorrenting it is showing support.
Extra Pegasus footage, but won't be buying... by MisterE	Sep 19th, 2006 12:46:05 PM
Wow, awesome news about the extended BSG Pegasus episode. Alas, I won't be purchasing until they put out a reasonably priced full Season 2 BSG set. If they don't release the set, then I don't release my money.
Veronica Mars uses "frak"? by Killah_Mate	Sep 19th, 2006 01:00:14 PM
Now, I may be total fanboy couch potato, but that's the coolest thing I've read all week. Bring on the Mars!!!
WTF?? by nofate	Sep 19th, 2006 01:09:15 PM
1/2 a Sopranos season for full price? Fucking HBO. Then again after this series is over they have no other shows worth $60 for a season set. Entourage? great show but I doubt is going to get as popular as Sopranos. Rome? I give it another season before they say is too expensive to produce and cancel it. Big Love? The Wire? again, great shows but nowhere as popular as Sopranos.
Avatar is the best show on television. PERIOD. by Gay Jesus Christ	Sep 19th, 2006 01:11:30 PM
How sad is it that a children's tv show is that good? It blows everything else away. I mean 24 and battlestar are good, but they are fucking long at an hour to get any satisfaction. Avatar only needs ten minutes to give you that.
Lovecradtfan, Pegasus and Resurrection Ship make 2.5 by NoHubris	Sep 19th, 2006 01:13:35 PM
The complaints posted over the past few months essentially had to do with 2.5 episodes (These posts are in archival TBs for your reading pleasure). Many felt that 2.0 was better than 2.5, although not as good as Season 1. After the 2.5 episodes of Pegasus and Resurrection Ship, consensus among the "complaining" TBers was that - give or take a couple episodes – the rest of the Season was sub par (e.g. Black Market, Epiphanies, Captains Hand, and Scar to a lesser degree). IMHO one of the issues regarding uneven year 2 shows overall is that you had scripts written by producers - other than Ron Moore, Bradley Thompson & David Weddle from DS9 - who prior to Season 2 had not written BSG scripts. As a consequence, certain writers who made Season 1 scripts so great were sidelined. What’s the lowly writer to do when the producer steps down from his/her perch, decides to write and tells the writer to step aside? However, I am looking forward to Oct 6.
Hi, Bob by Mister Man	Sep 19th, 2006 01:15:51 PM
"Newhart" is great, although Fox screwed up the opening credits in this set, using several from other seasons.
Mama's Family?!? by Uga	Sep 19th, 2006 01:28:06 PM
Oh thank Christ. I can breathe again.
So.... by Meglos	Sep 19th, 2006 02:10:57 PM
being referenced in Veronica Mars is a barometer of how great a show is? Okaaaay.
Don't understand people saying "I won't be buying.." by Fatboy_Roberts	Sep 19th, 2006 02:30:16 PM
"..unless there's one full BSG season 2 set." Because that seems sort of silly to me. There won't be a big season 2 set. It won't happen. If you buy 2.0 and 2.5, there's your set. That's all the episodes for Season 2, six discs worth, 60 bucks if you know where to shop. What does it matter whether it comes in one big box or two split up boxes. There's a unified box set in the UK, but it has less extras than the 2.0/2.5 sets here, and I think it costs the same as if you bought 2.0 and 2.5 separately anyway.
"What does it matter whether it comes in one big box" by newc0253	Sep 19th, 2006 03:55:05 PM
by that logic, what does it matter if it comes in 10 boxes? or 20? they could put each episode on a seperate disc and box them separately. hey, maybe they could issue a 60 box set for season 2: 20 minutes of an episode per box. sounds silly? yeah, but so is outright refusing to sell a complete season 2 boxset. getting mad about double dipping on DVD releases is about as pointless as getting angry at continental drift. but that doesn't mean you have to think it's a good thing when it ain't.
neec0253 speaks the truth! by DanielKurland	Sep 19th, 2006 04:26:03 PM
Here here! Har har!
newc, I think his point was... by FluffyUnbound	Sep 19th, 2006 04:26:18 PM
...that if they made it one set they'd just charge twice as much for it. If the price for the combined set is exactly the sum of the prices for the two half-seasons, does it still make sense to hold out for a combined set?
Battlestar Galactica- starting to suck by 900LBGorilla	Sep 19th, 2006 04:52:10 PM
And I hate to say it. The Mini was incredible, season 1 Awesome, season 2.0 very good, the 1st Pegasus episode, probably the best of the series...then it all went into the shitter Starting with the one of the lamest climaxes in TV history with the non-battle for the resurrection ship and the cop out dual assainations... and the rest of 2.5 never got much better... WTF- hopefully they'll get back on track in season 3. I really hope so, cause this show went from "can't miss" to "Meh" faster than a ferarri goes 0-60.
Battlestar Galactica- starting to suck by 900LBGorilla	Sep 19th, 2006 04:58:19 PM
And I hate to say it. The Mini was incredible, season 1 Awesome, season 2.0 very good, the 1st Pegasus episode, probably the best of the series...then it all went into the shitter Starting with the one of the lamest climaxes in TV history with the non-battle for the resurrection ship and the cop out dual assainations... and the rest of 2.5 never got much better... WTF- hopefully they'll get back on track in season 3. I really hope so, cause this show went from "can't miss" to "Meh" faster than a ferarri goes 0-60.
Battlestar Galactica- starting to suck by 900LBGorilla	Sep 19th, 2006 04:58:22 PM
And I hate to say it. The Mini was incredible, season 1 Awesome, season 2.0 very good, the 1st Pegasus episode, probably the best of the series...then it all went into the shitter Starting with the one of the lamest climaxes in TV history with the non-battle for the resurrection ship and the cop out dual assainations... and the rest of 2.5 never got much better... WTF- hopefully they'll get back on track in season 3. I really hope so, cause this show went from "can't miss" to "Meh" faster than a ferarri goes 0-60.
WOW! by 900LBGorilla	Sep 19th, 2006 05:10:22 PM
Sorry for the triple post. I refreshed and BAM! Speaking of which, the only thing to suck more than BSG 2.5 is this new lag-ified talkback....someone fix this shit! (and maybe delete 2 of my 3 posts).
it willl come down in price eventually... by wash	Sep 19th, 2006 05:12:39 PM
but then again, so does everything. I bought both sets at Amazon, knowingly paying around 15 more or so than an average season set. So what, it's worth it. Have fun with your reasonably priced Mr. Belvedere Season 17 sets.
if that was his point, it was a stupid one: by newc0253	Sep 19th, 2006 05:25:35 PM
because if the price for the combined set is exactly the sum of the prices for the two half-seasons, then where is the economic rationale for selling them separately? as much as some fans whine about some of the season 2 episodes being patchy (the whiny little bitches), i have a hard time believing that there's greater demand for one part of season 2 than another. so, if most fans would prefer to buy the combined set over the seperate sets, and the studio would make the same money either way, why not sell it to them?
"the rest of 2.5 never got much better" by newc0253	Sep 19th, 2006 05:33:32 PM
i call shenanigans on your bullshit. 'Downloaded' was one of the finest hours of television i've seen in the last few years.
Great effort Fluffy, but as you see, his boorishness... by NoHubris	Sep 19th, 2006 06:17:14 PM
...knows no limits. Your thoughtful explanation got lost in his black hole of extreme uncouthness.
uncouth? by newc0253	Sep 19th, 2006 06:51:18 PM
sorry, i thought this was an AICN talkback, not a tea party. if you've got a point to make about the 2.0/2.5 issue, NoHubris, you're welcome to make it. if it's manners you want to discuss, could i suggest you try www.aintitdainty.com?
Uncouth = strange, clumsy, boorish by NoHubris	Sep 19th, 2006 07:53:41 PM
dainty = he who uses phrase "tea party" in AICN TB
Veronica Mars using "frak" by Itchy	Sep 19th, 2006 08:23:40 PM
That is indeed pretty cool. I like when characters on shows refer to other shows - tends to lend a sense of realism to the episodes. Now Veronica would understand what I was talking about when I told her I wanted to take next Thursday off to tounge-frak her girly bits.
Newc0253 & 'Downloaded' by 900LBGorilla	Sep 19th, 2006 09:35:39 PM
Sorry Newcster Downloaded was OK. Noit a bad episode, but you must not watch too much TV... Not that I am saying all of Season 2.5 was complete crap, but more often than not it was a big miss. It certainly was a huge drop off from the last season & 1.2
Frakkin' Veronica by nemesisdarkside	Sep 19th, 2006 10:00:22 PM
I also think it's cool that Veronica says "frak". Really cool actually. :) Another reason that I can't wait for S3. P.S. Can't wait for S3 BSG either. Both frakking great shows.
The second half of season two... by Red Ned Lynch	Sep 20th, 2006 01:32:15 AM
...did boast some of the weakest episodes in the series. And a couple were just plain not so good. And both Roslin's Cylon transfusion and the double-backdown were just heartbreaking. This is a series where a woman snaps a baby's neck and calmly puts it back in its tram. Where the enemy is flushed into space, where little girls die while the good guys run, where...well, you get it. Both those answers were the easy ones, and great shows don't give the easy answers. It was a disappoiontment. On the other hand 2.5 ends with an extraordinary act of courage by the creators, and you can pooh-pooh that by saying they'll be back in space soon, but by so totally altering the dynamic of the show they have assured that whatever fleet returns to the quest for the mythical planet earth will not be the same one that we've seen before. If they follow through. If not, they will be taking the easy choice again. I don't know, my money's on them picking the hard ones this time.
"then where is the economic rationale for selling them by Fatboy_Roberts	Sep 20th, 2006 02:27:56 AM
The rationale wasn't economic as much as it was promotional. The season was split into two halves for scheduling reasons(ratings periods and such) and in order to keep attention high during the long gap, they sold the first half of the season inbetween the 3-4 month wait for the 2nd half of season 2 to start. If anything, it was throwing a bone to fans as well as keeping visibility for the series up. The alternative--waiting for a single box of season 2 to come out almost a YEAR after season 2 actually started, would suck, at least as a viewer of the show and potential consumer of their product. Since the show was pretty much advertised as being split into two 10 episode seasons, it made sense to sell the 10 episode seasons as their own sets. There was never a plan to sell one big box over here, once they knew they were gonna be splitting the season in half during broadcast. And as already pointed out, the price for one big box would be pretty much the same as the two littler boxes, and as shown by the big UK season 2 box, the extras are lessened and I don't believe you get the aired version of Pegasus, either. The airing schedule dictated the DVD set decisions. It wasn't a question of demand for one set over the other. You're looking at this from the wrong angle. This isn't a double-dip, nor is this the typical whoring studios do with double-dips.
"This isn't a double-dip" by newc0253	Sep 20th, 2006 04:35:09 AM
sure it is. BSG isn't the only show with an interupted schedule -c.f. Sopranos and South Park. but when those shows get to the end of a season, they release a complete set. sure, it's not as bad as double dipping on directors cuts, etc, but it's still pissing off a lot of fans who would rather purchase the complete series than have two sets rattling around. there's obviously demand for the complete set, so why not sell it?
newc0253, don't want to get into semantics... by DanielKurland	Sep 20th, 2006 07:13:07 AM
You're completely right, but the latest season of the Sopranos will be in two parts, probably because it may be like a year until the second half is shown. Sex and the City did the whole set splitting thing too.
It's not a double dip by Eaglet1138	Sep 20th, 2006 07:23:47 AM
A double dip is selling the same (or close to it) product twice. All that's happening here is that Galactica season 2 is kind of expensive to buy. But here's the thing: IT'S AN EXPENSIVE SHOW. This is not Will & Grace, folks. If you like the show, pay what they're asking for the DVD sets so that they can continue to fund it.
Gilmore Girls Season 6 - Total Crap by gadlaw6	Sep 20th, 2006 08:28:34 AM
You're wrong Herc - Season Five was the last one worth watching. The Season Six is one few fans will buy. It was bad at the end as you mentioned, it was bad in the middle and it was bad at the beginning. A total letdown, a total meltdown by the creators as they unsuccessfully renegotiated their contracts and instead blew up the show completely. Thank goodness for 24 and House.
So when does 2.5 start getting bad. by Lovecraftfan	Sep 20th, 2006 10:14:55 AM
I just finished Epiphanes. Great episode and Baltar rocks. And Resurrection Ship was amazing. Seriously when does it start getting bad.
Ellen was funny in the beginnig by emeraldboy	Sep 20th, 2006 10:56:06 AM
But the other characters in her show were annoying boring and bland. The series ran out of steam with the whole buy the Book bookstore concept was introduced. Especially that annoying Clea Lewis. Lets not forget one of the worst comedy actors of all time Joely Fischer. She looks nice. She couldnt act for toffee. Why was she on that show. NO2 to her on the all time worst comedienne actors is Debra Messing.
Plus, technically by Fatboy_Roberts	Sep 20th, 2006 12:27:10 PM
A double dip is when you buy the same thing twice. This isn't the same thing, this is 2 parts of 1 season. You're not buying the same content when you buy 2.5 as you were when you bought season 2. They're offering you completely different product in completely different packaging. The South Park and Sopranos examples don't work, as shown by Daniel there. And because of the timing, because of the fan demand between seasons, and because of the pricing, this two sets for one seasons plan is in no way a "ripoff" compared if they simply waited a year after Season 2 started to release one big box. It was essentially concieved and marketed as two 10 episode seasons because of the huge break in the middle, and was sold that way accordingly. That's not a double-dip by any colorful contortion of the definition. And your assertion that there's a demand is interesting, because I've found that to be the opposite. As a matter of fact, once season 2.0 hit, the demand for a full box DROPPED because most consumers didn't want to have a superfluous 2.0 set once the hypothetical full Season 2 set was announced. then that WOULD be a double dip. Plus, as I've pointed out, if you know where to shop, the cost to you, the consumer, is no greater than if this WAS packaged together as a single set, and as proved by the UK release, is actually more ADVANTAGEOUS to you because you are actually given more features. The only real disadvantage seems to be that you're pretty anal about how these things look on your shelf. I'd rather watch the DVD's than worry that the Feng Shui of my DVD shelf is spot-on.
Still isn't a double dip by Fatboy_Roberts	Sep 20th, 2006 01:25:27 PM
I think the site ate my last post, so I'll give this another try, maybe I'll cut down on my diarrhea of the keyboard too and make my shit a little more succinct. Anyway--your definition of double dip is wrong. 2.0 and 2.5 isn't a double dip--a double dip is when the same content is sold to you twice. This is not the same content. You're not getting season 2.0 all over again when you buy season 2.5. You're getting 10 new episodes. It's not a double dip by any colorful contortion of the definition. And your assertion that people are demanding the complete set seems weightless as well, being that most people, once they discovered and bought season 2.0, were hoping AGAINST a full season set, as then the 2.0 would be rendered obsolete, because if they bought the full season, then they really WOULD be double dipping at that point. The best way to avoid the double-dip would be to put out 2.5. That, from my travelings around teh interwebz, has been the general consensus of the consumerbase on this one. They didn't WANT a full Season 2 set once season 2.0 was released. And again, as I've pointed out a couple of times already, the airing schedule dictated this DVD release plan, and there was never a plan for a full box set because of that, and when a full box set DID show up in the UK, it ended up being LACKING in comparison to the two smaller sets, while costing essentially THE EXACT same as the two separate sets. The series was marketed and aired to be two separate 10 season series, and the releases reflected that. You got two different "seasons" in their own DVD box with no overlapping content or bonus materials. That is in no way a "Double dip." IT seems your only real concern here isn't the episodes, it's how the set looks on your shelf. I'd rather watch the DVD's than wring my hands over how the Feng Shui of my DVD rack is off somehow.
Still not a Double Dip by Fatboy_Roberts	Sep 20th, 2006 01:56:06 PM
I think the site ate my last post, so I'll give this another try, maybe I'll cut down on my diarrhea of the keyboard too and make my shit a little more succinct. Anyway--your definition of double dip is wrong. 2.0 and 2.5 isn't a double dip--a double dip is when the same content is sold to you twice. This is not the same content. You're not getting season 2.0 all over again when you buy season 2.5. You're getting 10 new episodes. It's not a double dip by any colorful contortion of the definition. And your assertion that people are demanding the complete set seems weightless as well, being that most people, once they discovered and bought season 2.0, were hoping AGAINST a full season set, as then the 2.0 would be rendered obsolete, because if they bought the full season, then they really WOULD be double dipping at that point. The best way to avoid the double-dip would be to put out 2.5. That, from my travelings around teh interwebz, has been the general consensus of the consumerbase on this one. They didn't WANT a full Season 2 set once season 2.0 was released. And again, as I've pointed out a couple of times already, the airing schedule dictated this DVD release plan, and there was never a plan for a full box set because of that, and when a full box set DID show up in the UK, it ended up being LACKING in comparison to the two smaller sets, while costing essentially THE EXACT same as the two separate sets. The series was marketed and aired to be two separate 10 season series, and the releases reflected that. You got two different "seasons" in their own DVD box with no overlapping content or bonus materials. That is in no way a "Double dip." IT seems your only real concern here isn't the episodes, it's how the set looks on your shelf. I'd rather watch the DVD's than wring my hands over how the Feng Shui of my DVD rack is off somehow. Your argument still doesn't really make sense unless packaging is THAT important to you. You complain that a lot of fans are mad because they'd rather purchase the complete series. And they can. They just buy the two sets. That's the only way the complete season 2 is ever going to be offered, and it was done so that fans who bought season 2.0 (and there were a considerable amount) wouldn't be double-dipped.
fuck. welcome to the triple post by Fatboy_Roberts	Sep 20th, 2006 03:01:26 PM
yep. All three of em showed up. great. I suck at the internet.
Well if you're bitchin' about the BG double dip... by zer0cool2k2	Sep 20th, 2006 04:48:04 PM
... You probably won't care. But those nifty little Hasbro Titanium Series Battlestar Galactica ships are selling for $4.99 at Target. They were $14.99, but are a much better deal for 5 Bucks. I've got all six of the little frakkers on my desk. Both Viper Models, A Cylon fighter, a Raptor, Colonial One, and the Galactica.
i don't give a frak if it's "technically" a double dip: by newc0253	Sep 20th, 2006 07:23:39 PM
i didn't realise 'double dip' had made it into the OED and websters. the bottom line is 2.0 and 2.5 offends my sense of parsimony.
Hey, don't get all snitty by Fatboy_Roberts	Sep 20th, 2006 07:53:55 PM
Because you got caught out there not knowing what the fuck you were talking about. You had no idea why the season was split, why the dvd's were released the way they were, or even what "Double dip" means. That's not my fault. And placing the importance packaging over the content seems to be a stupid reason to not buy a show you obviously enjoy watching, that's all I'm saying. But whatever floats your boat. I'm just saying I don't get it, and it seems a pretty skimpy and frivolous reason to deny yourself something you obviously want to own.
"You had no idea why the season was split" by newc0253	Sep 21st, 2006 03:26:29 AM
you're absolutely right. because the fact that BSG had an interrupted season was a secret known to a select few, right? i guess that's why i hang out on AICN talkbacks: to garner all the hot insider info from DVD marketing world-authorities such as yourself...
I said WHY it was SPLIT, not THAT IT HAD BEEN by Fatboy_Roberts	Sep 21st, 2006 12:07:13 PM
For someone trying so hard to be smart you fuckin suck at it.
Pegasus not the only extended episode by radjac31	Sep 21st, 2006 08:38:54 PM
resurrection pt 1&2 both have extra scenes
Newbie...with a question. by Flexfill	Sep 22nd, 2006 10:37:22 PM
Time Warner Cable gave me a BSG total recap on demand that lasts about an hour to sort of fill you in on what you've missed. Then they gave me "Pegasus" and both parts of "Res-ship." I really feel I'm up to speed to start watching season 3. But from the hardcores now... I want to know which episodes from the mini 'til now are ones that I need to go rent or borrow because they absolutely cannot be missed. And please don't say all of it. I work for a damn living. Thank you.

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