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Part 4: Peter Jackson and Quint discuss THE DAMBUSTERS remake!!!

first again? by Colonel Kane	Sep 15th, 2006 03:51:14 AM
i am practically giddy!
There's something strange in your neigbourhood. by DerLanghaarige	Sep 15th, 2006 03:56:39 AM
Who you gonna call? Dambusters!
Damn PJ is tha man! by spiderinside	Sep 15th, 2006 04:11:30 AM
This movie sounds awesomely rad! After LOTR and Kong, and the craziness he's gonna pull off with Halo, I have no doubt this flicka show is gonna be tha shiznit! PJ doing a war movie, hells yeah!
so he's keeping the dog's name then? by Lost Prophet	Sep 15th, 2006 04:11:36 AM
Good on him. Provided that he doesn't Americanise this it stands a chance of not sucking balls. If it does end up being poo, well at least the original will still be there. Not overly thrilled at this, not at all
What peter Jackson is doing today reminds me of.... by IndustryKiller!	Sep 15th, 2006 04:11:41 AM
the 80's. jackson really seems to be amassing alot of young new hungry talent to do some fantastic and thrilling products. It reminds me of the 80's when you had upstarts like Spielberg, Lucas and Zemeckis doing these excellent high budget thrill rides that everyone, regardless of taste, could get behind. He's got some interesting projects here and i like who he's brought on board to helm them so let's hope it all works out.
"But that was before racism was bad..." by Cash Bailey	Sep 15th, 2006 04:17:39 AM
So sayeth David Brent when Gareth brings up the same point in THE OFFICE. Funny stuff.
So where's the HALO interview? by Cash Bailey	Sep 15th, 2006 04:20:27 AM
Gone. Along with the LOVELY BONES one.
Who cares???? by dragon-lord	Sep 15th, 2006 04:29:14 AM
I don't remember the original...nay, let me clarify, I have I never even HEARD of this movie before now. So, now THIS is what Jackson is re-making next? Puh-lease.
dragon lord by Lost Prophet	Sep 15th, 2006 04:34:34 AM
the original is an absolute classic of it's kind. It is however, old enough for a potential remake not to fuck it up. It will be nigh on impossible to replace the cast though, and this is where the problem will lie. The solution that he will come up with will be to make it American pilots carrying out the raid and only feature British actors playing Barnes Wallis and the beuarocrats. Which will piss me off mightily.
I care dragon-lord by IndustryKiller!	Sep 15th, 2006 04:42:02 AM
so you can move along now thanks
I hope they do it right by vee8	Sep 15th, 2006 05:02:54 AM
And DON'T cast American actors for British parts. I mean, don't we have any good actors ourselves?! Otherwise it will just turn into another Hollywood story of how America won the war single-handed, and that's not meant to be insulting to Americans, without who I readily admit we could not have won the war, but we WERE fighting alone for over two years before Pearl Harbour y'know! Now, how about a CGI remake of the Battle of Britain?!
Best line in the film: by Sulis	Sep 15th, 2006 05:21:31 AM
Bureaucrat: [rough précis] NO WAY are you going to get a Lancaster bomber to experiment with! These things cost a fortune, the RAF would never consider it, etc., etc. Barnes-Wallis: [apologetically] Would it help if you told them I designed it?
I don't mind if they cast Americans by Lost Prophet	Sep 15th, 2006 05:32:15 AM
just ones that can do the accent. And act. What worries me (especially from that interview where Jackson jumped straight on the antipodean pilot) is that they will tamper with the story, and Americanise the characters- Guy Gibson being played by Hayden Dickheadssen and will be from Texas. Or some such horrid shit like that.
Now this sounds pretty good. by TomBodet	Sep 15th, 2006 05:43:20 AM
And Sir Petey is Producing it, not directing. Hmmmm. Highly involving storyline if they do this the right way. Not just anyone will do a WWII flying movie nowadays, so good for him.
Hactually... by King_Knut	Sep 15th, 2006 05:52:17 AM
...it was a Wellington he asked for (and had designed). I totally respect Peter Jackson's love for the original, and given how well he re-did Kong, I believe he might not totally balls this one up. Nonetheless, Jackson ain't directing, so I'm a little apprehensive at his letting a first-timer have a crack at such a classic as this. Most importantly, will they be keeping the original score? One of my old schoolteachers wrote words to the Dambusters Theme and turned it into one of the UK's most popular hymns...
Please...not another jingoistic war movie... by Kaiser13	Sep 15th, 2006 06:22:31 AM
I hope PJ will tell the truth. Please no slow motion shots, no children choirs from the off, no heroisms, no patriotism (and I think it would be VERY odd if the British would act now as if they have fought for freedom...hahhahaha...yeah...f ighting for freedom and occupiang and raping the whole so called third world...)... Show the reality of war. Show the casualities of the bombing. Show the 1000 warprioners (mostly from Ukraine) who were killed by this attack...and show how useless this attack was. Heres a quote: "The Eder drains towards the east into the Fulda, flooding farmland and several villages. Estimates show that before 15 May 1943 water production on the Ruhr was 1 million tonnes, which dropped to a quarter of that level after the raid. In terms of deaths: 1,294 people were killed,[citation needed] 749 of them Ukrainian POWs from a camp just below the Eder Dam.[citation needed] After the operation Barnes Wallis wrote, "I feel a blow has been struck at Germany from which she cannot recover for several years". However, on closer inspection, Operation Chastise did not have the military effect that was at the time believed. By 27 June, full water output was restored, thanks to an emergency pumping scheme inaugurated only the previous year, and the electricity grid was again producing power at full capacity. The raid proved to be costly in lives (more than half the lives lost belonging to allied POWs), but in fact no more than a minor inconvenience to the Ruhr's industrial output. However, the pictures of the broken dams proved to be an immense morale boost to the Allies, especially to the British, still suffering under German bombing."
Well done you. by King_Knut	Sep 15th, 2006 06:30:14 AM
You can quote. Another point against this remake - the original was written by the incomparable R C Sherrif (Journey's End). I'm not sure anyone without an intimate personal knowledge of the services in action would be able to do this story and the people portrayed justice.
Any chance your german, Kaiser13? by Lost Prophet	Sep 15th, 2006 06:48:44 AM
fuck off with your revisionist History. This is a TB about a film, not about the many sins of the British Empire. It is about one innately dramatic operation. Why would they want to ruin it with a long convoluted scen of POW's drowning. It's a classic- and those comments you just made are exactly what could well go wrong with the remake.
Cash by Quint	Sep 15th, 2006 06:50:25 AM
The Halo and Lovely Bones interviews aren't gone. I moved them out of the top spot in order to not flood the entire left column with interviews. We've had tons of movement on the right side, so they've probably already been pushed off the page, but I've linked them at the beginning of this article, so they will be easily accessible.
Peter Jackson = Karaoke Film Director by hypnotron	Sep 15th, 2006 07:20:35 AM
I just cannot see any point in remaking this film!
Combine The Hobbit with The Dambusters!!! by Miami Mofo	Sep 15th, 2006 07:48:47 AM
So there's no screenwriter yet, eh? OK, I'll volunteer. However in my version those low-flying Lancasters won't be dropping any 55 gallon drums containing high explosives -- they instead shall be dropping barrels which contain Bilbo (the barrel rider) and his Dwarf companions who act as commandos -- while the Dwarves set the explosive charges in order to blow the dam, Bilbo throws rocks at the German searchlight operators, distracting them from their assigned task. He then packs the Dwarves back into the barrels and they all escape when the dam blows with Bilbo riding (clinging to?) the lead barrel as the once calm waters of the reservoir rush turbulently through the opening in the bombed-out dam. How exciting!!! Haven't quite figured out where Smaug will fit in though.
This is the least exciting PJ project IMO. by brycemonkey	Sep 15th, 2006 08:21:08 AM
The others I am interested in but retelling this story is completely pointless. Who cares, really? About 100 people in the world give a shit about this and one of them is PJ. As a studio exec this is a project I would kill.
Oh wait, I've got it by Miami Mofo	Sep 15th, 2006 08:36:47 AM
The reason the Dwarves volunteered for this most dangerous mission was that Gandalf had told them that Smaug had moved his treasure from under the Lonely Mountain to beneath the waters of the reservoir. Looks like I've got to write a thrilling air-to-air combat scene between Smaug and the Lancasters. Hmmm, maybe I'll have Smaug burn Guy to a crisp as retribution for his political incorrectness.
They already remade the Dam Busters by rev_skarekroe	Sep 15th, 2006 08:43:20 AM
It was called Star Wars! Hey-o!
By the way ... by Miami Mofo	Sep 15th, 2006 08:45:39 AM
Gandalf was lying. ;~)
One last thing by Miami Mofo	Sep 15th, 2006 08:49:30 AM
In my version, Barnes Wallace and Gandalf are one and the same.
You need to know a little about German goalkeepers by Mickey The Idiot	Sep 15th, 2006 09:18:32 AM
But this 'remake' is already a classic. http://tinyurl.com/r7g2j ...and this one ain't bad either. http://tinyurl.com/nax9t
Why not make something new? by neonist	Sep 15th, 2006 09:23:17 AM
I don't know, to me it's just a shame. He has every resource and opportunity to make some really cool, new, unique films. But instead we get remakes and adaptations- when we walk into the theater we already know all the details and the ending. It's absurd to me.
Oh come on.. by Mickey The Idiot	Sep 15th, 2006 09:27:53 AM
I think he actually makes the case quite well why it's worth remaking Dambusters - it is a fascinating combination of science and heroism. You could do a lot more on the back story to this now and the story is worth telling.
There's been a BBC special on the Dambusters recently . by Ringwearer9	Sep 15th, 2006 09:28:51 AM
I saw it on PBS. It contains all the historical detail that Jackson is regurgitating here. He probably saw it too. This is the same schtick he pulled out for Lord of the Rings and for King Kong "I'm such a fan of this! I'm so interested in historical detail!" And then he trots out the dwarf tossing jokes and the zombie-orcs, the stampeding Brontos and the machinegunning bugs off a person. Don't buy the hype. He gives a shit about Dambusters the way a lumbergjack gives a shit about a virgin forest. He sees it as something nostalgic that he can mine for cash.
you really hate Jackson don't you ringy? by Lost Prophet	Sep 15th, 2006 09:49:29 AM
chill out. I am not overly fond of this idea, but at least it has potential. BTW- there is nothing wrong with zombie directors- any reasonably talented director can shift genres. So why not Jackson? Danny Boyle, for example, has directed many different types of film.
The title for its porno counterpart..."Dykebusters" by Cletus Van Damme	Sep 15th, 2006 09:50:32 AM
This stuff practically writes itself.
Why not a zombie director? Well ... by Ringwearer9	Sep 15th, 2006 10:22:25 AM
... if he keeps directing his movies that boringly show that his heart is still back with the zombie movies, then ...it's bad. It just is. And all Jackson's movies seem to be like that, like he's longing for a simpler, zombie chomping time.
Hey! by SPECTRE Agent	Sep 15th, 2006 10:44:36 AM
Where's my promised Extended Kong DVD already?
the dog's name reminds me of that version of by durhay	Sep 15th, 2006 11:03:40 AM
the Aristocrats joke where the punchline is offensive instead of the story.
Such as Heavenly Creatures? by Lost Prophet	Sep 15th, 2006 11:09:14 AM
That stank of Zombie, that one did.
Peter Jackson Or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and... by JohnGalt06	Sep 15th, 2006 11:21:14 AM
LOVE THE BOMB! Woo-hoo, war movies ooh-ahh!
How did the girls act in "Heavenly Creatures"? by Ringwearer9	Sep 15th, 2006 11:23:40 AM
Kinda like murdering zombies, no?
Quint's an asshole. by Frankenblogger	Sep 15th, 2006 11:25:22 AM
There's no reason why he couldn't have posted ONE FUCKING INTERVIEW WITH ALL THIS SHIT. I'm bored now. And when we finally get the Hobbit info, all Jackson will say is "I'd really love to do it but have no clue when and nobody's asked me to." There's your Hobbit interview. Fuck you, Quint. You fucking hack.
As I said before by ROBE	Sep 15th, 2006 11:33:18 AM
This movie would never be made by a British movie maker as most of them are Guardian reading traitors. As for Kaiser's comment about the 3rd world, the British Empire ran it better than the tinpot dictators who took it over with their Swiss Bank accounts.
WOW WEE!!!! by IAmLegolas	Sep 15th, 2006 11:37:24 AM
AWESOME HOBBIT NEWS!!!
Who Cares About This Movie? by The Ender	Sep 15th, 2006 11:47:00 AM
I know I dont
Oi Robe! What's bad about reading the Guardian?.. by Jugs	Sep 15th, 2006 11:53:24 AM
..It's great for Cricket updates..
If you say so. by Lost Prophet	Sep 15th, 2006 11:54:47 AM
I disagree. You loon.
I think Robe is referring to a certain Breed by Lost Prophet	Sep 15th, 2006 11:57:00 AM
of British (especially English) hating Guardian writer. Anyone that read Richard Williams appalingly anti-English coverage of the world cup knows that is tue
Oh yeah, Kate Winslet just screamed zombie in HC. by Tinfang	Sep 15th, 2006 11:59:10 AM
Your post only get more idiotic BungRingwearerNein, if that's possible. On another note: Um, let's see, OK with a character (dog or not) called Nigger but Tolkien is a racist? Is that the theme from the Twilght Zone I hear? All freggin' right! Another masterpiece from PJ, er-uh, I mean Christian.
Casting Suggestions for Barnes Wallis by Mentok	Sep 15th, 2006 12:04:19 PM
Gary Oldman or Hugh Laurie. Both are known English actors of some prestige that are about the same age as Wallis was during the war. Both are fantastic actors.
Barnes Wallis = Bruce Willis = flames on Kong by performingmonkey	Sep 15th, 2006 12:12:26 PM
dsfsdzfsdf
I'll give you Heavenly Creatures, Tinfang... by Ringwearer9	Sep 15th, 2006 12:36:21 PM
... despite the wierd clay figures that the girls dance around with, and the bashing in of the mother's skull, and the gleeful way Jackson rejoices in their being parted forever at the end of the movie (if it had been a zombie movie he'd have their heads explode), but I'll give you Heavenly Creatures as his least zombie-influenced movie. Do you admit that every other movie he's done has that zombie movie flavor?
Motion capture Barnes Wallis! by Mgmax	Sep 15th, 2006 01:02:29 PM
That's what they should do-- scan all of Michael Redgrave's scenes into a computer, have Andy Serkis play him in motion capture scenes, then map the real Redgrave onto Serkis! That's way better than having an actor play the part. Seriously, Redgrave is PERFECT in that movie, it's hard to think who could do it half as well, so no doubt it will be one of the only two English actors on the planet as far as Hollywood's concerned, Anthony Hopkins or Ian McKellen.
Yes, Mentok! Hugh Laurie must be in this! by RefriedBeaner	Sep 15th, 2006 01:09:12 PM
also, Ringwearer9 is an idiot who probably has a dartboard with PJ's face on it and keeps a portfolio of PJ magazine clippings to which he's cleverly blacked out the eyes and added horns.
Put Patrick McGoohan in it in a cameo. by Uncapie	Sep 15th, 2006 01:09:17 PM
He's one of the few, if not, the last guy alive from that film and he's not getting any younger. Props to "Number 6" please.
WELL by THE KNIGHT	Sep 15th, 2006 01:13:49 PM
Sounds decent... Seems really comforting to work with a guy like PJ...
ringwearer is right by moondoggy2u	Sep 15th, 2006 01:27:11 PM
PJ's inner child is that little bastard that pulled ants apart and torched them via his trusty magnifying glass. I'll grant you, LOTR is an amazing movie full of grand scale and a level of detail thanks to his direction, but it's not without flaws: some ham-fisted direction, spotty editing here and there, and some descent into toilet humor. Still, for all its flaws, the film has faaaaaarrr more in its plus collumn than its minus side. King Kong, on the other hand, is PJ unleashed. There is obviously a market for such behavior and low-brow direction, but one can't deny that there is also a huge group out there that really doesnt care for that sort of thing; a little bit goes a long way for me (probably Ringwearer, too). Yeah, he makes Speilburg look more subtle than a Corleone, but he sure isn't afraid of the wide-angle lense, either, like 99% of today's crop of film makers.
I hope this isnt a double post--Ringy is right about PJ by moondoggy2u	Sep 15th, 2006 01:32:05 PM
PJ's inner child is that little bastard that pulled ants apart and torched them via his trusty magnifying glass. I'll grant you, LOTR is an amazing movie full of grand scale and a level of detail thanks to his direction, but it's not without flaws: some ham-fisted direction, spotty editing here and there, and some descent into toilet humor. Still, for all its flaws, the film has faaaaaarrr more in its plus collumn than its minus side. King Kong, on the other hand, is PJ unleashed. There is obviously a market for such behavior and low-brow direction, but one can't deny that there is also a huge group out there that really doesnt care for that sort of thing; a little bit goes a long way for me (probably Ringwearer, too). Yeah, he makes Speilburg look more subtle than a Corleone, but he sure isn't afraid of the wide-angle lense, either, like 99% of today's crop of film makers.
Sorry about the double (or triple) post, guys. by moondoggy2u	Sep 15th, 2006 01:35:57 PM
This goddamn site still can't seem to get its act together. It ate my post twice before posting it. Even then, I wasn't sure it took it due to the insane and unneeded 1 minute delay, so I posted it a fourth time. Again, sorry guys and gals.
moondoggy2u by Mr. Nice Gaius	Sep 15th, 2006 02:41:48 PM
"ringwearer is right". --- Don't ever say that again.
nice gaius by moondoggy2u	Sep 15th, 2006 02:54:11 PM
I know--I felt dirty even typing it. Please understand, I still think Ringwearer is completely off his rocker and waaaaayyyyyyyyy over the top in his hatred for PJ. I merely dislike certain flaws in an otherwise obviously talented director. Hope that doesnt put me in the straight-jacket club...
I admit nothing, by Tinfang	Sep 15th, 2006 03:38:11 PM
since that implies guilt. Nor will I acknowledge the same. But, yes, of course the orcs and other nasties in LoTR can be considered zombie-like in their repugnant behavior. Can the same be said of the Elves, Men, Dwarves, Maiar(well, except for Saruman the Gaulieter)and Hobbits? Hardly! Granted Faramir was a bit less high-Numenorian than he ought to have been but I feel that's a mere quibble. His character certainly wasn't raped (Gimli, on the other hand...) or some other such nonsense.
Ringy is funny. Frighteningly obsessive, YES. by TomBodet	Sep 15th, 2006 05:01:38 PM
I still remember this 18 page diatribe describing Jurassic_Kong's little fight w/ the bugs, V-Rexes and Batthings-it was astonishingly detailed, and drove The PaZooZoo and co. into a spasm of mouth-Frothing. Now, being a semi-fan of Both Ringy AND The PaZooZoo, I found it to be both 1: Highly Entertaining and 2:Good readin'. As for Moondoggy-I liked the Trilogy better, maybe, than you did, but I also fully well realized that it wasn't a set of movies that I will watch much again though I own'em. It's not like, say, Lawrence of Arabia or Armageddon or those new Mr Moto's I got for me, those I can watch alot. Ditto The Third Man, for my money maybe the best film ever. Or not whadda I know. Why am I bloviating? Anyways-------Dam Busters will be FINE so long as Sir Petey let's some discipline get into things, and doesn't over-do some shit. I'm curious at least to see how it winds up. As for him doing the Hobbit-why not? But being of the Mikey_Bay and Stephen_Sommers fanclub bent, I'm quite sure that Others could do it about as well, just-wildly different. Ridley Scott--that's who I would like to see try it if not Petey. Oh and Greedo SHOT BUMBLEBEE FIRST. WITH ORGANIC SHOOTERS, OKAY?! Sheesh. Singer's direction be hanged.
The British were holed up in their Island? by peter skellen	Sep 15th, 2006 05:36:10 PM
I guess North Africa, Burma, the battle of the Atlantic, the Enigma Code and the RAF raids on Germany etc, must have escaped Mr Jackson's dubious grasp of history. Read a few books Pete. My anticipation for this film has suddenly dimmed somewhat at this and the prospect of a 'whacky inventor' stereotype.
You know, Jackson's subversive cynicism might work ... by Ringwearer9	Sep 15th, 2006 06:38:33 PM
... for Dambusters, if he does what he did to Lord of the Rings and King Kong. He thought Gandalf was as bad as Saruman. Maybe he'll try to make the British look as bad as Hitler. Hey, it would be a brave take on the whole Dambusting operation.
Casting?... by Schnorbitz	Sep 15th, 2006 07:12:03 PM
George Baker is also very much still alive - had a great part in an episode of Spooks last year. Will love him forever for I Claudius and Wexford. As for Barnes Wallace... Needs a sort of cross between Jim Broadbent, Robert Lindsay and Hugh Laurie. Maybe we'll get someone like Daniel Radcliffe or Eddie Redmayne for the pilots. Can I play the bloke who answers the phone in HQ, saying whether or not the bombs have hit?
Good stuff, Quint, by DudeOne	Sep 16th, 2006 12:24:45 AM
This kind of history is little-known, it's good to hear more about it from Peter Jackson!
"[it proved] the British were able to do their bit..." by Gandalf The Gaye	Sep 16th, 2006 02:39:57 AM
Yeah, apart from being fucking INVADED, you stupid cunt.
Richard Todd is still alive! by Schnorbitz	Sep 16th, 2006 05:07:37 AM
According to imdb. Would have been 35 when the film was made. As is Bill Kerr (who appeared with Tony Hancock on many radio programmes).
Don't mention the war by Fitzcarraldo2	Sep 16th, 2006 10:28:52 AM
"the Americans and the Russians were both on to Churchill thinking that the British were not actually doing enough in the war." Um, yeah. Apart from the British and Commonwealth forces defeating the Axis in North Africa (the fist time they had been defeated). And defeating the Luftwaffe in 1940 and sinking the German surface fleet and inventing a whole bunch of war-winning technologies (radar, sonar, proximity fuses, jet engines etc) and breaking the enigma codes and reading all the Nazi messages and defeating the Japanese in Burma we did nothing much, really. I will take my shame with me to my grave.
IndustryKiller! by dragon-lord	Sep 16th, 2006 04:56:28 PM
Your vote for a Dambusters remake is noted. However, consider your request to have me move along as ignored, since you are not the duly appointed arbiter of this forum regarding who may or may not post their opinions here.
I have to think PJ does this right by SaintDilbert	Sep 17th, 2006 12:26:27 AM
After reading this interview, how does anyone think this movie is going to have an American bend to it? I could see Mel doing that, given his demonstrated love for the Empire, but Jackson? The dog's name. OMG what a nightmare. You keep that name and the only press you get will be about the dog's name. At least that is the way it will unfold over here on the hysterical, frothing at the mouth, PC side of the pond. It's a fuckin' 'break into regular programming news bulletin' when the governor of California calls Puerto Ricans and Cubans 'hot blooded'. Without the first amendment, that movie would be banned for using that dog's name. I can't wait to see this film. I caught the original late one night in the early 80s and was just entranced by it. I just hope this Christian guy is worth what PJ thinks of him.
How can I offer my services? by PFOM	Sep 20th, 2006 05:30:33 AM
great news about Peter Jackson doing a Dam Busters remake. i'm just about to retire from the RAF after 32 years and my fater used to work on Lancasters (he still helps out restoring aircraft at a local museum. I did my first tour at scampton and know all the guys (no pun intended) who work in Air Traffic Control there now, how would I contact Mr jackson to offer our services? If the original airfield is used for filming it could take some in deapth liaison with the Red Arrows to stop them getting in the way! can anyone giveus any pointers on how to contact the production company? PFOM

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