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Psychedelic Oggles Joel Schumacher's THE NUMBER 23 (Starring Jim Carrey)!!

sounds ehhh by JeanLuc Dickhard	Sep 13th, 2006 09:23:34 AM
not my style
still great in Eternal Sunshine by oisin5199	Sep 13th, 2006 09:23:46 AM
I'd mention that before Truman Show. And Schumacher was ok in the thriller genre with Phone Booth.
Uh... by TheJake	Sep 13th, 2006 09:24:57 AM
I don't get it...
That Sucked. by Atomica	Sep 13th, 2006 09:32:12 AM
That told me virtually NOTHING about the movie. I walk away from this preview knowing: 1) Jim Carrey is in It. 2)Joel Scumacher Directed. 3)Number 23 is an evil number?! This was a lame waste of a post.
Lame review... by The Guy Who Nods	Sep 13th, 2006 09:33:42 AM
Seriously. It's like the guy had all this passion to sit down and write about this movie at first, then about two paragraphs in he say "fuck it" and just winds it down before even going into the plot. Then the hook he had with the Jim Morrison shit was just annoying. Anyway, for anyone who's interested the plot is about Jim Carrey finding a book that is eeirily close to his life and ends with the main character being murdered.
this review sounds fake by Datascream	Sep 13th, 2006 09:43:01 AM
it sounds more like he read a plot synopsis and made-up a review for it on the spot. As the title bar says "spoilers" he really doesn't give any. No indication what work was unfinished in the film, just that some scenes ran long. No words on if the score was imcomplete. There's no news in here because he never saw it. It's all opinion and no facts.
WELL by THE KNIGHT	Sep 13th, 2006 09:52:02 AM
HE GAVE BATMAN NIPPLES! someone was going to say it eventually...
THE NEW MUCH-ANTICIPATED JOEL SCHUMACHER FILM!! by Cletus Van Damme	Sep 13th, 2006 09:54:19 AM
...tune in next week for other phrases you'll never hear in a non-sarcastic tone.
4 8 15 16 23 42 by FordPerfect	Sep 13th, 2006 09:56:47 AM
108
jim carrey just got cast in "horton!" by jig98	Sep 13th, 2006 09:59:27 AM
with steve "evan baxter" carrell for the cgi version of the big elephant with the extra sensetive hearing. you hear it, first!
Merrick by RealDoubleJ	Sep 13th, 2006 10:24:24 AM
How the hell can you bitch about "The Truman Show" letting the audience know before Truman does that he's in a reality show? Did you manage to be in a coma before walking into the theater & missed all the promotion & advertising for it? It sounds like you wanted a Shylaman SWERVE out of it. Boo!
Truman Show should have had a live studio audience by durhay	Sep 13th, 2006 10:56:44 AM
whaddaya mean it makes no sense?
23 by Trevor Goodchild	Sep 13th, 2006 11:00:33 AM
http://www.twentythree.com/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2 3_%28number%29
WHAAAAAAAAAA Batman and Robin WHAAAAAAAAA by BigTuna	Sep 13th, 2006 11:37:57 AM
The whining about that film from Fanboys is funny. Let it go. It's only a movie. Oh and "Batman Forever" is not that bad of a film at all.
Re: Merrick... by BigTuna	Sep 13th, 2006 11:39:31 AM
I think it's clear his point was if the audience didn't know before Truman, then the advertizing would have been different.
Why??? by ImJustABill	Sep 13th, 2006 11:40:19 AM
Why do we have to be constantly subjected to the crap spewed out by that no talent POS canadian Jim Carrey... I honestly have never understood the appeal.. must be like that whole french jerry lewis nonsense.
ummmm Batman Forever by fenario80	Sep 13th, 2006 12:29:52 PM
That's the Val Kilmer one, right? Best of the original series. Then there's Lost Boys, The Client, A Time To Kill, Veronica Guerin, Falling Down, Flatliners- Guy can make a great movie when he's got a great script.
Ive been a disciple of 23 for years by BitterMan23	Sep 13th, 2006 12:45:22 PM
Its in every movie. Its usually awkwardly put in (Waynes World is one example). Its always an important number as well. This movie just confirms it.
Damn you, Joel Shumacher! by DerLanghaarige	Sep 13th, 2006 12:52:39 PM
If Batman & Robin would be his only crime. I mean, he also made the wannabe-pretentious "Tigerland", the only for 12 year old shocking, wannabe-controversal but 100% mainstream "Falling Down", the only for pridish american audiences, wannabe-controversal but 100% mainstream "8mm", the much ado about nothing "Flatliners", some boring as hell Grisham-flicks, the annoying as hell "Phone Booth" and what the fuck was "Flawless" supposed to be?
prudish. Not pridish. by DerLanghaarige	Sep 13th, 2006 12:54:49 PM
Damn you!
Wasn't that the whole point of The Truman Show? by Black And Gold	Sep 13th, 2006 01:12:11 PM
I mean, seeing some guy walking around thinking he's living a normal life while he's actually the center of attention for an entire TV viewing nation (and of course, later, his realization) was the entire premise, no? An expression of our reality-tv obsessed culture, no? At least that was my impression.
phone booth was a masterpiece... by jig98	Sep 13th, 2006 01:13:17 PM
with jack bauer as the fucking sniper! come on, colin farrell's best work!
After Phantom of the Opera,Schumacher is making movies? by Orbots Commander	Sep 13th, 2006 01:18:34 PM
I figured him bungling that property would put him in movie director jail for good. Him nearly tanking the Batman franchise didn't do it, but I figured Phantom would. His earlier stuff isn't bad, like St. Elmo's Fire and Lost Boys. Also, his Grisham movies are the best things he's done.
Staring Jim Carrey? by Novaman5000	Sep 13th, 2006 02:04:02 PM
What's he staring at?
Schumacher by blackwood	Sep 13th, 2006 02:08:31 PM
St. Elmo's Fire Lost Boys Flatliners Falling Down Flawless Tigerland Phone Booth Veronica Guerin ...are all good films - some of them very good. Sure, he's done some crap, but overall I'd say he's pretty solid.
Joel Schumacher - Troma called by Trader Groucho 2	Sep 13th, 2006 02:48:20 PM
They want their schlocky Nazi-Vampire concept back.
Holy crap . . . by Nice Marmot	Sep 13th, 2006 03:01:00 PM
... I did NOT just read that someone thought St.Elmo's Fire was good. That movie is retarded. I consider Lost Boys and Flatliners and INXS's Devil Inside video great, just because I saw them at the right age. They haven't aged that well either. Everything else Schumacher has done is average-at-best to pure crap.
Truman Show by supertoyslast	Sep 13th, 2006 03:31:37 PM
If the audience didn't know that Truman was trapped on a TV set before he did the movie would have needed a different title. Also, what the hell would the trailer have been like since that was the whole point of the film? One of the great joys of the film was seeing the different ways in which Truman's world is set up to stop him wanting to leave (It Could Happen To You!). Lose all that and the film would be much poorer for it.
Amazing how films slide under the radar... by thenewpulper	Sep 13th, 2006 04:08:02 PM
Then follow right out of the box office.
You are so wrong about revealing the tv thing too early by JackLint	Sep 13th, 2006 05:47:39 PM
if we found out when truman did, it would come off as a super-lame twist ending that would take away from the satire and commentary the film is really about. It was perfect to reveal the reality of the universe when they did. As for 23, I read somewhere that Carrey is actually in to numerology in real life, and is obessed with the number 23 (before he ever read the script), and is why he did the movie.
Carrey needs to show restraint in his acting. by veritasses	Sep 13th, 2006 07:54:34 PM
He tends to give slightly too much in his roles. Too much expression, too much emotion, too much reaction etc. In his case, less would definitely be more. There's a lot of talent in him though.
Re: Truman Show Structure. by thenewpulper	Sep 13th, 2006 09:11:34 PM
JackLint is smack on the money about that one. The perspective thing is done in such a subtle way that it never really pounds it over your head until Harry Shearer shows up. Plus, I think Weir had a shitload of fun with the various camera angles. I think, maybe I'm crazy, we were supposed to be having fun too. Although the creepy voyeur vibe I got sometimes made me feel a bit like Jimmy Stewart, sans binoculars.
Should have been Dalinian... by starmand	Sep 13th, 2006 09:21:15 PM
...not Daliesque. Review does not deliver.
I have to agree about Truman Show by godric	Sep 14th, 2006 08:23:28 AM
with the above comments. If you read the original screenplay, you'd see that it actually opens with a cast meeting discussing upcoming plot points, and gives away way too much. Peter Weir is really the mastermind of that film, changing it to where you saw very little bits of interviews at the beginning, but then letting you watch Truman discover the full nature of the show. It works perfectly, if you ask me.
Are you crazy, Merrick? by JacksParasites	Sep 14th, 2006 08:56:36 AM
Outside of Dumb and Dumber and Me, Myself, and Irene, Jim Carrey has pretty much done no wrong. And The Truman Show, Man on the Moon, and Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind were among the best films of their respective years. You are right on one point. A film like Truman where you didn't know it was a show until later could be an interesting film, but it'd be a different film entirely. Don't fault the movie for going in the direction that it did. Also, keep in mind that that was Carrey's first dramatic-like role. Most audiences probably would have turned on him if he did an Eternal Sunshine-like performance.
I read this script years ago by TheKeenGuy	Sep 14th, 2006 01:32:19 PM
And it was booooring and far-fetched. A very safe, dragging version of THE MACHINIST.
And in regards to the TRUMAN SHOW reveal by TheKeenGuy	Sep 14th, 2006 01:36:06 PM
There would have been no way to market THE TRUMAN SHOW without the "his life is a TV show" reveal, so it would have been pointless to withhold that reveal in the film and have the audience ahead of the plot for the first half of the film. It still avoids showing exactly how the strings are being pulled for the first half of the film, which keeps the audience watching. But without the setup, the moment wouldn't have been pregnant and there would have had to have been some kind of false conflict to keep the audience watching.
OK, but where's my Ripley's with Burton??? by Rakafraker	Sep 14th, 2006 02:17:32 PM
That sounded like it would have been fantastic. Carrey and Burton... Seems like a good match to me. Throw in the ridiculousness of the Ripley's Believe It Or Not universe and I'll buy my ticket right now. To keep the thread, though; I'm not as interested in this project, but I liked ETERNAL and TRUMAN and to a milder degree, his slapstick comedies (MASK was my fave of those). I hope that when Jim gets into his later years, he can do real drama. I think he'll have it in him by then.
And what's Eternal Sunshine then? by JacksParasites	Sep 14th, 2006 03:44:18 PM
You wouldn't call this "real drama?" I'd call it the best dramatic proformance of the year. Too bad Oscar hates Carrey.
Meh. by Yo_SheBitch	Sep 14th, 2006 05:53:01 PM
I caught this test screening the other night as well and it was just ok. Started off good with the set-up and 23 concept but after a while got very repeatative and hit you over the head with every 23 reference. Like a register that had $23.06 on it in the background of a shot. But before the scene was over, Schumacher couldn't resist but give you a close-up of the register and then a look on Carrey's face like "Holy shit! Another one!" Plus the big reveal and explanation at the end took up like half the movie. I was like, "I GET IT ALREADY! I got it 20 minutes ago." Too bad b/c the concept was interesting.
Batman Forever is fine. by TomBodet	Sep 14th, 2006 07:48:43 PM
C'mon it's the best in the series. Yes even better than Batman goes to Ninja school and gets kicked in the nuts by El KaBong there. I didn't get much outta that one. Schumacher I don't care for that much, but c'mon, give him at least a little credit. Batfink and Robin was horrid, sure.
Merrick, was this your attempt at being a villian by antonphd	Nov 4th, 2006 05:37:26 PM
Man on the Moon - made me forget what the real Andy Kaufman even looked like. Eternal Sunshine... - if you have a heart and a brain this movie was a masterpiece. period.

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