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Hello?
by scott
Nov 23rd, 1998
10:23:39 AM
And the spoiler was ?........
Meanies...
by leeskallerup
Nov 23rd, 1998
10:26:24 AM
THis is ridiculous. Like he isn't making enough money. But he knows his fans, because as soon as they are out, I will be dishing out however much money it will cost for the poster. Thank God for Internet Fan sites...
Episode 1 posters
by Dissension Head
Nov 23rd, 1998
10:41:27 AM
Do they really think they can prevent the Episode 1 posters from getting out of theatre? The managers will probably be the ones to be making the money off selling the things. Hell, I know I'll get my hands on one if I can (drool).
TPM posters
by Matt Hensley
Nov 23rd, 1998
10:42:23 AM
I would gladly murder someone for one of the one-sheets, and I'd cut off my own testacles with a pocket knife for a banner. If we can't get them for free, is there any place where we can buy/order them?
Lucas is a freak!
by bogrod
Nov 23rd, 1998
10:50:50 AM
Jeez... It's beyond doubt that Lucas is protective of Star Wars in general, but hey!
I CAN GET THE POSTER !
by DaytonaMike
Nov 23rd, 1998
10:55:56 AM
I will just have to get mine DIRECTLY from FOX and not from the theater then ! Not a problem - I can get about 7-8 of them (DON'T ASK - I AM NOT SELLING THEM)
what le hell?
by Renp
Nov 23rd, 1998
11:07:25 AM
I'm as confused as Scott. What exactly was the 'spoiler' in that poster diabtribe? What's a goin' on? And for the guy gloating about getting 7 or 8 posters and "no, he's not selling any", I offer a round of applause. It must be wonderful to be so selfless and giving. To brag about hoarding such a large collection of posters to the fans, who would cherish even one, is the act of a very lonely, socially retarded person. I think I've figured out who the 'spoiler' is.
Posters already for sale.....if you're willing to pay...
by rjslick
Nov 23rd, 1998
11:11:01 AM
There have already been several auctioned off on e-bay. Here's the address for one of them currently available and here's one for a banner The range they've sold at has been from $75 to $500 (for double sided) so be prepared to break open the piggy bank if you really want one that bad.
Lighten Up
by cam
Nov 23rd, 1998
11:16:38 AM
Theatre managers making tons of money off the posters, people willing to pay WHATEVER it takes to get their hands on them, people willing to do almost anything to get their hands on them (sure, the murder and castration was joking...but the point is the same), don't you realize that is exactly what Lucas is trying to avoid? He can't possibly care about the money that much. If he keeps distribution in his hands, then he can assure that fans that want the posters can get them for a REGULATED price, and keep people from selling posters that were free to them. It isn't about money, folks, George has our best interests at heart. Lighten up on him...he's handling the well.
Letter
by graham
Nov 23rd, 1998
11:34:38 AM
I don't see that this was signed by Lucas. Who makes these types of decisions since they are, "Property of 20th Century Fox?"
spoiler notice
by Harry Knowles
Nov 23rd, 1998
11:58:17 AM
Father Geek here. Spoiler notices on AICN appear in front of the article that has a spoiler in it. This spoiler notice is for the Mighty Joe Young story. Sory for the confusion! Father Geek
Best interest of fans? Hah!
by Shad
Nov 23rd, 1998
12:10:10 PM
Isn't it obvious by now that Lucas is an a-hole? Obviously, the Star Wars flicks are classics and personally they shaped my consciousness more than anything else in popular culture, for good or bad. Lucas, though, has always been a shark even though he has more money than he could possibly spend. He has NEVER looked out for the best interests of the fans other than to make good movies. He neither wrote or directed ESB or RTJ. (Anybody remember Irvin Kirshner?) He steamrolls theatres into buying THX (even though it is not necessarily the best sound system out there) with tactics similar to those that have Bill Gates in trouble. He even went so far as to copyright the effect of a laser coming out of a pistol even though he wasn't the first to use it! Don't even get me started with the toys!!! One-handed Luke? Defrosted Han? Whats next? Rotting Aunt Beru? Please!!! Don't get me wrong, I'll be there the first day and will have the dialogue memorized by the end of June. But I ain't buying a cent worth of crappy merchandise just so George and Rupert can move into the 10 billion dollar tax bracket. Please, people, its just a movie......
We will all have'em
by Turk 182!
Nov 23rd, 1998
12:27:55 PM
Why did the one-sheets get to the theaters at this time? Because the trailer was released at this time....the trailer is like a movie itself (it is for me, it touches me more than many many films). Those one-sheets are there to get the people interested, to get them to say "Look, there it is, how beautiful, how stupendous" It is there with the trailer to keep you company until the movie comes out, eventually in January when they take them off of the theaters they will start selling them and probably giving them away as well, when the real commercialization for the film begins. We will all have the poster, eventually, until then, tape the trailer if you haven't and watch it over and over again, go to websites and theaters and look at the poster forever thinking "It will be mine", you just have to wait, don't go insane now, wait till May.
What Lucas Is Protecting ...
by Dante
Nov 23rd, 1998
12:38:03 PM
Relax, everyone. Lucas and Fox are just protecting their product. There's nothing wrong with them wanting to make the money off of their product, rather than somebody else. (Remember the whole "Revenge" poster incident?) Anyway, in a few months you won't be able to swing a dead Jawa without hitting some new piece of Phantom Menace paraphernalia, so don't go castrating yourself just yet. Santa Lucas is on his way.
posters
by vansmack
Nov 23rd, 1998
01:10:24 PM
Who says anybody is ever supposed to be able to buy posters? There supposed to be ads for the film. I don't think the intention is for them to be sold as collectibles. I see nothing wrong with what Lucas/20th is doing. They're just not gonna fall for the usual bulls**t, that the theatre people give studios, asking for more posters so they can sell them. "If one rips, send it back and we'll give you a new one". "In January, when new posters come out, destroy the old ones. It doesn't seem to harsh to me." Smak
Rotting Aunt Beru!
by ethernetgeek
Nov 23rd, 1998
01:15:39 PM
Rotting Aunt Beru? What a good idea! Somebody suggest that to Hasbro!!!!!!
FOX DOES NOT HAVE THE POSTERS
by TheSaint
Nov 23rd, 1998
01:19:16 PM
In response to the guy who claims he can get 7 or 8 of the posters, sorry pal but Fox will not have access to these materials. As soon as the posters were announced, I spoke to one of the VPs of Marketing at Fox, who informed me that Lucas was being extremely secretive with the posters and went so far as to bypass the usual distribution route for marketing materials by sending the posters/banners directly to the exhibitors himself. Fox does not have, nor will they have, these posters. What we all have to remember is that Lucas holds all the cards regarding how these new films will be handled. Every studio in town was bending over backwards to accomodate Lucas' demands in the hopes of landing rights to the films, and he shopped them around to show Fox that, though he felt a certain loyalty to them, he was willing to go to whoever made him the best offer. Fox is getting a mere fraction of their usual distribution fee for these films, and they are glad to have it. As a Fox spokesperson was quoted in Variety "At least we have the knowledge that Fox will have the event movie of the summer for three of the next ten years". Lucas may be cheap, he may be ruthless with his copyright, but what can you do? They are his. Suck it up and order the poster from the fan club. Or bribe a theater owner.
Posters for Sale and for Free
by TrueFan
Nov 23rd, 1998
01:35:53 PM
Okay, y'all want SW:Ep 1 posters? I got two ways for you to get them. One is free, one costs--the free one is 1 per household, the cost is limit of either 4 or 6, I forget. The free way: Call 1-800-405-9800. They will ask for your name and adress. Give it to them. Wait 4-6 weeks. The cost way: Call 1-800-TRUE-FAN. This is the official SW phone number for the Lucas SW website. They are selling the poster, as seen on the website, for roughly $17.99 a poster (a little more or less depending on how many you get). So there you go. You want posters? That's the way to get them. A TrueFan.
Sorry--the free posters are gone.
by TrueFan
Nov 23rd, 1998
01:39:38 PM
TrueFan here again. After posting that first post above, I decided to double check the 'free' poster offer. It was from Lucasarts, but they have already run out of them, so you can't order it from there anymore. However, the 1-800-TRUE-FAN number still works. So order them there if you want them. Or, try and lie, cheat, and steal to get one from the movie locations. :) Have fun doing that. I've talked to 6 different managers in the LA area, and they are really determined NOT to let them go. Apparently they don't want to piss Lucas off. TrueFan
Prequel posters
by QueenPadme
Nov 23rd, 1998
01:57:26 PM
I have my posters from the fan club(well, they are on the way)...that was the simplest way to get them but you need to be part of the fan club to get them which will cost you an extra 12.99 to join. Of course it is well worth it being one of the first with up to date info on all SW news
Mr. Big Shot Director Boy
by dave
Nov 23rd, 1998
02:06:09 PM
lucas should pull the light saber out of his ass and come back down to earth.
Episode one?
by jonny
Nov 23rd, 1998
02:28:40 PM
Hi Harry, Long time reader..first time poster, Are these poster's still going to say " Episode one?" I bought my Stap and battle Droid yesterday, when they were shipped out. It still says STAR WARS on the front (which immediatly timewarped me back to a time we all are reliving again,)but it did'nt say Phantom Menace anywhere on the box. It did say Episode one in gold in the corner of the box. On the back ...which is the best, it say's " will premier in movie theaters next summer.." ( another reason to never take it out of the box) but it also offers a Mace Windu character( which looks fantastic, exactly like the old figures, not the he-man they made for the re-releases) You have to send in 6 UPC codes and $4.50.. Holy Moly!!! I'm off to the mail-box now, I already spent the food money on 6 Boba-fett's... Chow for now, Nipplehair Lasoo
Order Your TPM Poster AND Banner from...
by Pack_AOK
Nov 23rd, 1998
02:34:06 PM
The Official Star Wars Fan Club! Don't pay scalpers hundreds of dollars for Phantom Menace posters. They can be had for $12.95 from the Fan Club. Also, the Fan Club got in a quantitiy of 500 of the 8' X 4' vinyl banners. Price for those is $199.95. I heard that they sold over half of them on the first night of the offer (the same evening that the poster and banner images were first revealed on www.starwars.com), so they may not have any left. However, it can't hurt to check... The phone number is 1-800-TRUE-FAN and I'm not sure if you have to be a member or not. I am, so I didn't have any problems. BTW, the posters are limit 3 per person and the banners are limit 1.
Supply and Demand
by Bundren
Nov 23rd, 1998
02:38:20 PM
I can't blame Lucas for wanting to keep the supply of posters limited. I imagine there's more to it than a simple desire for profit, but even if that's all it was, I still don't blame him. Even people who are pissed off still seem willing to pay ridiculous amounts of money for a big piece of paper that says "Star Wars" on it. If people refused to pay all this money and everyone stopped clambering for these things, I doubt Lucas would feel the need or desire to fire off letters like these. I mean, it's like saying that a band should just sit back and let scalpers charge $300 for a 35$ ticket, or telling a writer that he should be happy if people went and xeroxed copies of his book instead of bought a copy for themselves.
GREED!!!!!
by RLNelson
Nov 23rd, 1998
02:46:30 PM
George has really become greedy.We should call him Uncle Scroolucas.
So Sad
by Alphabet Benny
Nov 23rd, 1998
02:47:35 PM
So far in this posting, we have a poster hoarder, a self-castrator, and at least one guy who admits that Star Wars shaped his consiousness. I've got four words: IT'S ONLY A MOVIE!!! I immediately appologize to any of the right-minded folks reading through this, but to the rest, I must feel absolute PITY. If star wars shaped your consiousness, you need professional help. My parents and my teachers shaped my consiousness. Granted, it would have been better to have Sir Alec in a robe teaching me rather than my father in a drunken stupor, but at least it was the REAL WORLD! Wake up, people. Reality is a good thing.
About Original SW Posters.
by NJM
Nov 23rd, 1998
03:09:17 PM
Nothing on the prequels, but I have the original three movie posters. The ANH poster is the same one they used for the Super Nintendo game cover, and the ones for ESB & ROTJ are the regular posters (i.e. video box covers). They all were bought for under $25 each. The ANH poster was bought at a craft fair of sorts at the local mall a few years ago, and the other two I bought at a comic book and collectors' show at McCormick Place in Chicago a few years back.The ANH poster is on cardboard and is still wrapped in the plastic my parents bought it in. The other two are unfortunately rolled-up in my dresser drawer, but are in good condition. Also, one question, does anybody ever watch the ORIGINAL Star Wars video cassettes (remastered or not)? -NJM
It's Only A Movie???
by FilmGuru2001
Nov 23rd, 1998
03:16:39 PM
I appreciate Star Wars for its vision and inspiration. As a child, it helped me reach for the stars. It challenged me to dream of a better world. Most importantly, it made me believe in myself. Reality is a cruch for people who can't handle science fiction.
Alex Creed
by nerf4brains
Nov 23rd, 1998
03:17:53 PM
You fool! There is no such thing as "reality". You're only fooling yourself...
Original Star Wars + MPEG of TPM
by Dante
Nov 23rd, 1998
03:23:18 PM
NJM - I still watch my original tapes now and then. I'm glad they released them before updating the FX. BTW - Any of you boys and girls out there who are thinking of videotaping The Phantom Menace in the theater, and posting an MPEG or something on the 'net - I suggest you read that letter about the posters and one-sheets. Lucasfilms ain't kidding around. I suspect you (and anyone who dares to host such a bootleg on their server) will pay dearly for it. Respect the filmmakers; and don't do anything that might land you in jail, or force you to shell out a percentage of your paycheck to Fox or Lucasfilms for the rest of your life. I'm going to be there on opening night, and I'll be darned if I'll waste my time watching it on a crappy little bootleg anyway!
Hype Suppression
by Squid Eyeball
Nov 23rd, 1998
03:27:36 PM
I'm just hypothesizing but I figure that one of the major motivators in wanting to control the sheer quantity of Ep-1 stuff out there would have to be the desire to avoid media saturation. Doesn't it sometimes make you sick when the only thing you see and hear for months is hype about a movie? Wouldn't it likely deter currently-non-fans from checking out Ep-1 if all they heard was how "you have no choice, you HAVE TO GO"? The hype generated by the fans themselves is likely to build over the next few months, but the advance trailer was really more of an effort to put this into people's minds prior to the pre-relase hype. If, on the other hand, the pre-release hype went on for SIX SOLID MONTHS then it's more than likely that the effect on people who aren't yet die-hard fans will be a major anti-Ep-1 backlash, not to mention some disappointment. The trailer itself demonstrated it -- less can be more.
lucas is meeeaaaannnn
by Locutus54
Nov 23rd, 1998
03:30:04 PM
you would think that george lucas has the money to give away posters...oh well...i just cant wait for the prequel to come out...
Posters/EP1/trailer etc etc
by Bink.uk
Nov 23rd, 1998
04:24:35 PM
I think Lucas is perfectly within his rights to limit availablility of the poster - it's his commodity, he can do what he wants. Those other movies gave away posters as part of a marketing push to get people interested in the movie, something unneccessary for EP1. BTW, I've just noticed something in the trailer: any1 else notice the cheesy wipe effect into the shot of Yoda? Pure Star Wars! And perhaps a nod to the fans too. Anyway, at least we in the UK have the 'making of...' doco to look forward to.
Harry, don't ever say 'George give the fans a break!'
by cjust
Nov 23rd, 1998
05:15:16 PM
Jesus, Harry. 99% of the time I love everything you do, and that 1% is usually just because I had creative difference with you. But how the fuck do you say, "George, give the fans a break!" after these past two weeks? Show some fucking gratitude. He just gave us geeks a sneak preview of a preview. Hell, it was even a teaser preview (though it was the longest and most revealing teaser ever). He's been releasing cool info steadily through the official site recently, just for us internet Star Wars geeks. Just think before you say something like that Harry. I know you were just joking around, but that's just bad form after recent events. Keep up the great work. -Chris
Its part of advertising... not Lucas' plot.
by Marty
Nov 23rd, 1998
05:24:19 PM
You guys have got to give Lucas a break. This is HIS movie and he's going to promote it the best way possible. The problem is that we are all looking at this from the "Star Wars Geek" perspective. Take a miniute and think about this advertising scheme they've got going here... If you were not a "Geek" you wouldn't know the names "Qui Gon Gin", "Mace Windu", or "Jar Jar". As an average citizen you would maybe remember that "Anakin" was the real name of Darth Vader, maybe not. This film has got to be marketed to the average moviegoers... They are the ones who will make it the biggest movie ever. Example... when the trailer was on TV last week I was over at my Dad's house. By coincidence my Mom, my Dad and my Sister all got to see it when it came on. I was surprised by the reaction. My Mom knew about a new Star Wars movie, but she thought it was about a young Luke Skywalker. My Dad got excited about it (okay, not excited, but interested) after seeing the trailer. And my sister actually opened her eyes form her nap to watch it. They all have a general idea as to what is going on now. Advertising needs to follow strick guidlines. If the marketing is going to be effective you can't have dated material out when there is newer materail avaliable. I am all for the destruction of the posters... I dont WANT to see it for much longer. It's done its job. Sorry for rambling...
Wait just a sec...
by jason
Nov 23rd, 1998
05:26:56 PM
OK, granted, it is frustrating when we can't get what we want. (i.e. The prequel poster) But come on!! Comparing Star Wars Episode I to other movies like Star Trek, Starship Troopers, Godzilla??? Come on, what makes a collectible a COLLECTIBLE? Scarcity, rarity, and COOLNESS! This isn't just another movie, it will be a day long remembered! George Lucas can do anything he darn well wants to as far as I'm concerned!! -Jason V
Listen to the wisdom of Chris Just...
by Marty
Nov 23rd, 1998
05:33:39 PM
That Chris guy makes another good point. Although I don't believe that is a very "revealing" trailer. We still don't know anything. Think about it... we've seen 2 minutes out of a 120 miniute movie.
ATTN True Fan
by The_Real_Indy
Nov 23rd, 1998
06:41:47 PM
Theater owners likely care little about pissing Lucas off. Lucas should be caring about pissing theater owners off, expecially larger chains. No one is immune from the wrath of a pissed off theater owner, expecially if they are the owners of a chain. You may be able to get 60 million to make a film, but you need the theaters to show it, or it's all for not. Watch in the coming years and you will see what I mean... Indy
QUIT BITCHING & think for a second!!!!
by John McLame
Nov 23rd, 1998
07:08:09 PM
Umm, the letter was from FOX to THEATRES, NOT from FOX to FANS !!! Fox just doesn't want massive re-orders of the MOST WANTED POSTER EVER!! Don't you think every popcorn boy & boxoffice girl is eyeballing those posters!? Don't you think every manager in every theatre already put one up in his house!? Let's not forget rich patrons, flashing $100 bills for a poster. THere are too many people wanting that poster, & too many theatres out there. If Fox hadn't sent that letter out, they'd be on the phones all day taking reorders from theatres that "lost" there's, or had them "stolen" or whatever! The poster has been available to the public for weeks through the fan club, so what's the fucking problem!?
poster
by trysop
Nov 23rd, 1998
07:28:47 PM
I personally would never expect to recieve a free one sheet from any theater- ever. The letter from lucasfilm was to theater owners- not us fans. I personally was thrilled to pick up an original one-sheet from the insider for 18$- and have no complaints because it is a fair price for a highly desirable piece. Usually people don''t have this opportunity like we have- we should be thanking lucasfilm for allowing them to be so readily available. Collectors out there all know the nuances of our hobby. I personally have over one thousand pieces in my small collection that I have gladly worked hard to build. Don't take these things for granted. If you want one, quite complaining and spend a few bucks. Nothing in my collection has been free except for the theater edition luke.......
Re: posters and one-sheets
by Ratfink
Nov 23rd, 1998
07:49:34 PM
I don't know for sure but I'm gonna asume based on other posters I've recived from some very good friends that work in movie theatres taht the one-sheets that they(the theatres) get is different from the posters that the fan club offers...why? because most of the posters and one-sheets given to movie theatres have two images on them, one on the fron and one on the back, with the lettering on one image reversed...for example I just picked up a John Carpenter's Vampires poster from a friend in a theatre, one side said John Carpenter's Vampires the other side was like looking into a mirror it said s'retnepraC nhoJ seripmaV if that make's sense...I'm assuming the Ep. ! one-sheets are similar...i don't know for sure I haven't seen one yet(out of a case)to confirm...but if it does that's what makes it cool, espically for collectors...just my 2 cents
The Phantom Name?
by Kerstad
Nov 23rd, 1998
08:36:19 PM
Ok ok ok... enough about the whining and complaining about not being able to get posters... Lucas is a Pimp and we are his ho's.... how many of of us here are already planing on camping out for D-Day, Memorial day 1999. I'm taking the entire week off before the opening day. How many of us are already planing on purchasing every cool fucking peice of merchandise we can and cannot afford. I personally don't believe that "The Phantom Menace" is the title. Lets look at the evidence, ROTJ what was the original name? Lets look at the new evidence. Anyone else notice on the poster/banner no name. How about the whole layout of what we have been presented. The presence of Episode 1 is everywhere almost like it is just there to fill the void. Look at the trailer which we have just seen, mmmmm I was there on the 17th how about you, in all its kick my fucking ass glory to now have a reason for living. Call it a hunch, call it a feeling...mmmm feel the Force Luke... let go... I think it is a big smoke screen, but we have been so giddy to just see 2 minutes of visual exctasy on Earth, that Mr L is gonna smack us upside the head with something new come January.... Then again I could be wrong... but you know what.... I still can't believe that there is going to be another fucking SW movie.... so it doesn't matter
Lucas' ho's?
by Shadowdancer
Nov 23rd, 1998
09:17:13 PM
Alex, your analogy is wrong. We're not Lucas' ho's -- we're the Johns, the tricks, the ones paying money to him for our thrills. The movies, and those who make them and star in them, are the ho's. And you people are taking this poster business waaaaaay too serious. We live in a supply-and-demand environment. If there is enough demand, the supply will be there. Lucas knows that. Anything you want to buy will be available, but you might have to pay quite a bit to get it.
puhleeez
by vitki
Nov 23rd, 1998
10:46:20 PM
Mr. Harry, lets get real. No matter how much the movies meant to the children in all us - this is a money making venture. The fan base and 'block-buster' culture that the original movies helped to create are now a heavily studied and cultivated 'event'. Watch the interviews of Lucas at the begginning of the Special Edition Video cassettes. I certainly hope no one was naive enough to believe that he added those 'extra' scenes to polish the original films. What that was, in addition to test marketing, was him getting the public to pay full price for a sundae merely to get at a few new sprinkles. And the sad thing is that any complaint is like a junkie complaining about a pusher who is rude to him. Complain all you want. You'll be back begging for more, abuse and all. Every possible cent will be milked out of every possible outlet. This will certainly sink Titanic, just you watch.
BitchBitchBleatBleatMoanMoan. Get a frickin grip!
by Sniper_X
Nov 23rd, 1998
11:59:27 PM
PEOPLE! We are talking about POSTERS here! "Aw Geez, Lucas is an asshole, he's breakin my balls! I want my posters!" One sheets are NOT MEANT to be sold on the open market. They are for promotional purposes only and are supposed to be returned or destroyed when the cinema is finished with them. Why dontcha start fucking complaining that you want your own print of the TPM trailer as well? And more to the point- WE HAVEN'T SEEN THE MOVIE YET! If it's great (and I have got high hopes myself, despite the SE disasters) I would love to have a poster, preferably Drew artwork. I will buy the toys and the "art of books" but only when I've SEEN the film. This collector mentality is out of control! We got people here losing sleep cause they're not the first on their block to own the teaser one-sheet. GAK! GET YOUR PRIORITIES RIGHT, FOLKS.
Stealing Posters
by beaumon
Nov 24th, 1998
12:52:00 AM
The theatre I worked in has poster cases with spring-loaded sides, and anyone could just take them provided that no employees were around. No locks at all. I imagine this will happen in many theatres with these posters. At any rate, it reminds me of Disney's efforts to keep their promo materials from being given away.
Beatham you fuckin' hypocrite!
by half vader
Nov 24th, 1998
05:02:35 AM
Ha! You complain about others moaning, and you do it by out-whingeing the lot of 'em! The SE's were masterpieces! You even posted twice, you damn newbie. Sucks to be you.
posters
by DH
Nov 24th, 1998
05:57:23 AM
Stop whinging about these posters, if they are for sale then just buy one. Disney are the masters of money making scams, they burn most of their artwork to make the fuew surviving pieces more valuable!! Destroying art for money = sad.
evil empire & anciene regime
by m2298
Nov 24th, 1998
07:47:16 AM
I think you meant Louis XVI, who lost his head in the French Revolution, not Louis XV. Also...I think the PHANTOM MENACE trailer premiered 20 years to the day after THE STAR WARS HOLIDAY SPECIAL. I hope this is just a coincidence.
Phantom Menace/Holiday Special
by jeff
Nov 24th, 1998
08:03:38 AM
Hi: In response to the previous posting, and not that this will make any difference, the PHANTOM MENACE trailer premiered on the SAME DAY as the Star Wars Holiday Special. I know, because November 17, the day of the trailer and special are on my sister's birthday. I remember trying to speed through her birthday party twenty years ago so that I could videotape CBS. Back to the REAL topic of "posters".....
matt cantrell, and i'm being gipped
by randy
Nov 24th, 1998
08:45:05 AM
matt-we have those spring laoded ones too. becasue my manager's sellign them (though she won't admit it), she amde us all sign a piece of paper saying someone will always be in the lobby so they aren't stolen (like the lost in space banner that was promissed to me). however, i wouldn't sign it. i got written up for insubordination, but quit when she wanted me to sign that too. i'm sorry, i'm not going to put my name on something and be binded to it, then be screwed over in the end when she sells them, or if one disapears and i become the fall guy. it might sound kind of silly i quit over a poster, but it's not that. it's the principal that i was promissed one months ago, along with a star trek poster, because i'm the only scifi fan there. you should have seen me last november with starship trooeprs and alien resurrection! when we actually got them, all of the sudden they're all hers. What a coincidence i was approached by 2 people earlier in the week offering 50 bucks for them, then said they'd come back later. i'm not going to be lied to, and i'm not going to be an accessory to her selling them. all i wanted was one to put up on my wall with my other posters. TO all of you worrying about collecitbility, you aren't true fans. you're called DEALERS, other wise all you'd want would be one for your room. It makes em sick.
Merchandizing
by ?
Nov 24th, 1998
08:59:33 AM
OK, I know alot of you are feeling pretty screwed right now but don't bad mouth Lucas as he may not even have anything to do with it. The descission not to let the poster be released to the public prior to the premier is simply to prevent people growing tired of the movie even before it's out. It is very common for a company to hold back on merchandize until the movie, band etc. has proven successful. That way the movie, album etc. + the merchandize will sell in much larger quantities. Personally I'm glad that they are holding on to the poster that way I have something to look forward to... Besides the movie.
Mel Brooks is somewhere laughing
by Two of clubs
Nov 24th, 1998
09:47:22 AM
Merchandising! Merchandising! Star Wars the poster! Star Wars the lunchbox! Star Wars the Flame thrower!!! The kids love this one. I love you George, but mayhaps you are only proving your worst critics correct by this anal retentive grip on your promotional stuff. P.S. Brooks will be out in two years with the comedic whuppin stick if Lucas keeps this up. You heard it here.
the Mel Brooks post
by Alphabet Benny
Nov 24th, 1998
10:17:51 AM
I can't stop laughing. Never before has anyone used Mel Brooks to make a point, and never before would it be so appropriate
The Poster Problem
by Demonseed Elite
Nov 24th, 1998
10:37:03 AM
Okay, it seems some of you are rather disturbed at the greedy capitalist hordings of Episode One posters by Lucas. I agree, it's rather sad that Lucas, or Fox, or whoever, has decided to alienate its audience by greedily hording these posters for themselves only. I mean, come on, they make their good fortunes off of us, the least they could do is let us have some posters. So, if you want to do something about it, here is what I suggest. Someone with an inside on one of these theatres that has a poster should scan it. Scanning a whole poster is tough, but you can get creative (scan sections and piece them together in Photoshop). Make sure it is scanned at a very high resolution (300 dots per inch would be good). Then you can print out your own copies if you have access to good art printers (such as at a university or art school). And while technically illegal, you could even distribute it. But you didn't hear me say any of that. *grin*
star wars mania
by E.roy
Nov 24th, 1998
11:19:45 AM
hey guys, hey harry, i've been religiuosly checking out the site for about a year now, and for the most part, it rules. anyhow,ever since the new site design, i started noticing changes.the main beef is that some of the news is redundant, and it seems to be focusing more on things that are more in the vain of "entertainment weekly" than scoops, and casting rumors. my final complaint is probably going to piss alot of people off,and this is coming from someone who loves star wars, and can't wait for the prequel..... the site is just too jampacked with prequel stuff! maybe theres a way to consolidate the articles, but do we really need to have five different anylizations of a two minute trailer?this seems more like an official star wars site than an insider site lately,anyone agree? sorry to come down on ya, but i know you'll come through. see ya......
Lucas=Smart and where is the teaser
by Godzilla
Nov 24th, 1998
01:09:45 PM
First of Lucas is one smart son of a bitch, cause think about whith all the hype by not putting the posters really to the public like (like being able to go to any store and see that box for the new star wars) he gives the movie teaters each one. I bet there is more to that letter like if you sell it, sell it to the highest bidder. Lucas probaly gets all the money on the money the movie teaters make on the posters. Also think about it by doing this once these do really get avalibale to the public do you know how fat they are going to sell and how much money he will make then. I think it is all a comsperice and Lucas is one greedy bastard. One last thing the tralior was not a teaser. You want a teaser trailor take to the guys you did all the preveiws for ronald emmericks films. Now those were teaser preveiws.
(revisited) I CAN GET THE POSTERS
by DaytonaMike
Nov 24th, 1998
03:59:39 PM
Well let's see - I was able to get them for the SPECIAL EDITION release (8 or each) and I have 3 contacts with LUCASFILM - is that good enough ? I checked with my FOX contact yesterday and he informed me of the same thing - no posters through FOX - but that's ok - I *CAN* get them from my LucasFilm sourses - only 2 per source, but 6 is better than none. DO YOU KNWO WHY I WILL NOT SELL THEM ? Because of scalpers. I would prefer to keep them with me - than take a chance of a scalper getting them and reselling for $400-$500 dollars. I would rather keep 2 of them and ** GIVE ** the other 4 away in STAR WARS contests on my website - and that is what I plan to do. I will have a contest in JAN, FEB, MAR and APRIL to give one of each away. See - I am not a jerk - just a concerned fan. Heck, I have NEVER heard of people complaining of someone NOT scalping posters. Sheesh !
TRUEFAN Posters are SOLD OUT!!!!!!!!!!!
by sp00f
Nov 24th, 1998
04:45:33 PM
TRUE FAN POSTERS ARE SOLD OUT of ALL THE EPISODE ONE POSTERS. THEY WENT FAST AND WONT GET ANY MORE OF THIS VERSION BUT JUST WAIT UNTIL OTHER VERSIONS CAME OUT.
SUP George?????
by Narm
Nov 24th, 1998
08:52:19 PM
I am outraged. I feel betrayed by your greed, to take away the joy of "poster hunting" by many loyal moviegoers. To recal all advertising, I do not know how many people agree with me, but I think this is a crime.
Poster losers
by Eric
Nov 25th, 1998
12:15:41 AM
Hey, come on folks. You gotta be kiddin' me. "I want my free this' I want my free that!" Hang on...Why do you deserve anything for free? Was it your idea that got the movie made? Seriously, sit back and enjoy the ride, 'cause it's only going to get better until May. Lucas created the blockbuster. Or did you forget? Don't worry you'll get your posters. Shut up Mike-We don't care who your friends are. (Unless you can get me Gillian Anderson's autograph!)
LUCAS--He doesn't Love you, he wants your Money
by off005
Nov 25th, 1998
06:39:43 AM
It is amazing that it can take so long for people to realise that Mr Lucas is not making these movies for ART or out of the goodness of his heart. The movies may well be good, but he wants your money and so does every last franchise. The fact that it now looks like they will re-re-release Parts Iv-V-Vi, sounds like they want to get every last penny out of cinema going Joe Public, well aint that a suprise!
Mr.L can do whatever the hell he wants!
by johnny71
Nov 25th, 1998
07:49:33 AM
Look, all of you. Mr. Lucas can do whatever the hell he pleases! He can makes as much money and cause as much confusion as he wants. Why? Because how much is it worth to you? To me Star Wars was the ONE constant in my life. Comics fade in and out. Women come and go. And all my Micronaughts and Shogun Warriors got lost or broke! I thank Mr. Lucas for the countless hours of varied enjoyment(everything from watching the flicks, to play in the dirt with my figures, to having a crush of Carrie fisher in that gold bikini) he has givin me since I was about 5 years old. I would pay out the ass to see this new movie (no matter what he does) just to recapture a bit of that feeling I had so long ago...
Please Read this...I want feedback!!
by peter_vankman
Nov 25th, 1998
11:47:38 AM
Hi guys, I've been lurking for a while, and I wanna throw in my two cents. Please finish reading this because I want YOUR feedback! The title "The Phantom Menace" has grown on me like I'm sure it has grown on all of you. Most of us didn't like it much at first, but after seeing the trailer I'm sure we all trust George. However, I offer an alternative explanation for Lucasfilm's very peculiar behaviour about requiring the movie theaters to shred all of the one-sheets in January. Hear me out and I think you'll raise an eyebrow. My explanation is that the title of the movie really is "Balance of the Force". Before all of you start thrashing me, think about it. The current one sheet only says "Episode One", no mention of a title. The main icon on the starwars website only says "Episode One". I say that they announce TPM, show the trailer with the title TPM to throw us off, and print one sheets without any reference to TPM (most of which will be shredded). What better way to jack up the worth of the original posters in a few years than that? THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT CLUE! In the trailer, Samuel Jackson says, and I quote, "You refer to the prophecy of the one who will bring balance to the force, and you believe it's this boy?" Now I think that is a DIRECT REFERENCE to the REAL title, and was thrown in as a clue for us to chew on until may! Don't you think that's just a huge coincidence that the most rumored title for the movie just happened to be a line in the movie and be in the first trailer? Please give me your thoughts! -Vankman
Why can't we all just get along
by peter_vankman
Nov 25th, 1998
12:33:10 PM
To Hardseid: Hey dude, I'm not hoping. I've apparently noticed a few things that you didn't, and I'm just asking for your thoughts. Not a two line rant. If you disagree with me, then explain each of the points in my post. Also, lets not forget that the original title if ROTJ was "Revenge of the Jedi"...titles can and do change. Note that that title changed beause several people noticed that Jedi shouldn't have revenge...so the title changed because of the fans. Come to think of it, you dork, I stated that I *liked* the title TPM, so stop accusing me of hoping and either: 1) discuss the points 2) shut up yourself -vankman
The voice of reason comes from a little boy (again).
by Jake Lloyd
Nov 25th, 1998
01:23:27 PM
Regarding the posters:

Pragmatically, there is no way to enforce the destruction of the posters.
All theater owners would have to say is that they got stolen.
There is no issue here. It has nothing to do with Lucasfilm making more money. The real challenge is to show me a theater owner who actually does destroy the posters instead of keeping them.
After all, I can see things before they happen.

Are you all so fucking gullable??
by Hooban
Nov 25th, 1998
06:13:55 PM
Mr Lucas has just set the biggest publicity machine in motion and one of the biggest stunts you can pull is a hoax. This reeks of the 'Revenge' incident and Georgey is sure to have masterminded a similar scheme for the upcoming release/s. I mean, 'The Phantom Menace' is hardly a worthy title for such a cinematic event. Anyway, here I sit awaiting the inevitable heap of hype which show all but five frames of the film winging it's way into the homes of every living being in the galaxy. Living in the UK, does make the release of Ep 1 seem so very far, far away....
Those posters talked about in the article..
by jrd
Nov 25th, 1998
07:19:39 PM
When Harry (or Father Geek or whoever wrote the above article) talked about all those free posters given away for those films, would those be posters that are given away by theatres with authorization from the studios? Every time I ask if there are any available posters at a theatre, the employees just stand there and then say something like 'uhh yeah well uhh our employees get first shots... so...' and then I'm like 'well so... let's say the employees don't want the posters... so...' and then they just sorta shrug me off. It's like the damn theatre employees are just hoarding the posters for themselves to sell at a later date or to keep in some damp closet.
Prequel posters, title, all that Sh*t....
by BobbyFett
Nov 25th, 1998
10:25:26 PM
Ok folks, listen up for a couple of key points..... ONE, Maybe the title IS The Phantom Menace, and all your big brains are all thinking about the ROTJ situation....being all paranoid and all.... What a fucking brilliant surprise it will be when May 21st comes around and all you over-analytical types are left there with retard drool comin down your chin in utterly dumbfounded amazement because the title is and remains "The Phantom Menace" Only time will tell on this issue, so dammit Johnny, put down your guns.... TWO, Yes, people who work in theaters can sometimes be a-holes, but on occasion, you will run into decent, moral citizens and fellow fans. I am saying this from experience, and by no means should this be misinterpreted as me saying that I think just because you work in a theater, a prerequisite for employment is that you must be an asshole. I am not stating that. Don't send me mail on it. Be nice to workers at theaters, plant seeds, make friends, talk to them as you would a friend, pretty soon you are their friend, and if you're such a greedy snot-nose, you'll get what you want. I don't recommend using people for ANYTHING, so if you have no soul, no emotions and are an empty carbon-based lifeform, go for it. You go, butthead. THIRD: QUIT YER WHINING!! Most all of you sound like pissy little children.... Lumps of coal for you for Christmas....Grow up, quit acting like such immature brats, and get a life.... I love Star Wars....I always have, I always will. It has been a central part in my life since my childhood...I will forever be thankful and grateful for the Films that George Made.... And on that note, happy Thanksgiving to all of you....even the crybabies....
Awwwwwwwww . . .
by Leareth
Nov 26th, 1998
07:33:18 AM
Mr Lucas, you've got to be kidding. Come on, give us the posters, make them available. Reward your fans who have supported you all these years!
Star Wars-Episode 1- THE FUTURE MENACE
by Rick
Nov 26th, 1998
04:49:48 PM
HA-HA! Lucas is a smart-ass!! But the real reason to destroy ALL posters and one-sheets related to the Episode 1 is just one; the real name of the movie is: Star Wars 1: THE FUTURE MENACE So he will destroy all posters a put new ones with the real name in it. Think about it; when you look to Anakin in the sheets , what you think? He will be a "phantom menace" to the galaxy, or a FUTURE menace?? Make a lot of sense, for a lot of reasons! 1- Will be like a alternate name to episode 4- The New Hope. When Luke was a new hope to the galaxy, Anakin is a menace to the future. 2- Lucas change the name of the "Revenge of the Jedi", remenber? 3- Another comparision with him and his father. He said one time he was a kind of Luke Skywalker and his father was a Darth Vader. So, his father was a menace, and him a hope to the future. Think about it. And prepare to see the "The Future Menace" in a Theather next year.
Star Wars-Episode 1- THE FUTURE MENACE
by Rick
Nov 26th, 1998
04:57:51 PM
PS Edition! HA-HA! Lucas is a smart-ass!! But the real reason to destroy ALL posters and one-sheets related to the Episode 1 is just one; the real name of the movie is: Star Wars 1: THE FUTURE MENACE So he will destroy all posters a put new ones with the real name in it. Think about it; when you look to Anakin in the sheets , what you think? He will be a "phantom menace" to the galaxy, or a FUTURE menace?? Make a lot of sense, for a lot of reasons! 1- Will be like a alternate name to episode 4- The New Hope. When Luke was a new hope to the galaxy, Anakin is a menace to the future. 2- Lucas change the name of the "Revenge of the Jedi", remenber? 3- Another comparision with him and his father. He said one time he was a kind of Luke Skywalker and his father was a Darth Vader. So, his father was a menace, and him a hope to the future. Think about it. And prepare to see the "The Future Menace" in a Theather next year. PS: Why we dont see the "Phantom Menace" name in the official site?? Just in the news telling us this is the title? This name is not in the "timeline bar" with the other 3 episodes. Why? And this name is not in the posters and sheets too!! Still with the "Episode 1" name. Why?
Episode 1 title
by Dodeboy72
Nov 26th, 1998
06:03:00 PM
To the guy up above me: The name doesn't necessarily have to be "The Future Menace." I'm not saying that it won't be that, because Lucas did it before with "Revenge of the Jedi," but the name "The Phantom Menace" appears on the teaser trailer that is out in theaters now. I have seen it with my own eyes. No it's not on the official site, but it is in the trailer.
"JANE, STOP THIS CRAZY THING!JANE!"
by inagoddadevita
Nov 27th, 1998
02:42:38 PM
Why would anyone: A)want posters for "Mighty Joe Young" B)keep the posters C)keep them for months? I can't believe I wasted comment space writing out the words "Mighty Joe Young" twice. Isn't there a high school sex ed movie somewhere that needs remaking, instead? Couldn't they give the money to an ape and make a better film? If a movie is made of us surviving the millenium bug, will Michael Caine,Bill Paxton and Will Smith represent the human race?
STAR WARS IS FOR SISSIES!!!
by Ace Rothstein
Dec 27th, 1998
10:01:33 PM
There, that got your attention. Lucas is being VERY good to the fanboy Star Wars fans. He only let people know about the previews from his web site, no other way. He's also making the posters available to the fans who would go and specially order them (at least for now). Lucas doesn't want to overhype this movie. He gives to the true fans but doesn't want to piss off those who don't care about every detail.
Careful! His name is Ace Rothstein.....
by Wolfpack
Jun 18th, 2006
10:15:25 AM
The biggest douchebags always splatter the most.
Hey Godzilla
by Series7
Aug 23rd, 2008
01:38:36 AM
Your a fucking douche.
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