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Bumblebee overworked on the TRANSFORMERS set! Check out the exhausted Autobot here!!!

The new AICN mode is almost as by superninja	Sep 11th, 2006 07:21:18 PM
bad as these designs. Arrrgh!
Just seeing if the terrible lag in posting remains. by Shermdawg	Sep 11th, 2006 07:34:25 PM
And if we still have glorious line breaks.
3 minute delay. NOT COOL. by Shermdawg	Sep 11th, 2006 07:44:41 PM
Thanks guys, you just killed the Coaxial community. The SNL and 24 talkbacks will be damn near impossible now. And with a delay like this, prepare for endless "FIRST!" postings. Sept.11 2006, the day the talkbacks died. Please tell me this isn't permanent.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = GWILDOR by Doc_Strange	Sep 11th, 2006 07:46:25 PM
You know it to be true.
The "Mac and Me" Bumblebee by Immortal_Fish	Sep 11th, 2006 08:13:32 PM
Still not liking the "Oh, shit!" look on his face, yet I have to say that the design has begun to grow on me. It borders on 'faithful enough' as with Prime. Given the mess of a script and the Decepticon designs, there are bigger fish to fry than the designs for Bumblebee and Prime (including the flames on him) IMO. Would like to see it in motion, but I won't give this film the opportunity until it hits cable. Way, way too much going against it at this late stage in the game.
Let's transform this movie into a bomb! by Badger999	Sep 11th, 2006 08:18:09 PM
There's a lot of us who don't like the direction this movie is being handled. Let's vote on it in the only way that matters... with our wallets. Get a bootleg copy and watch it first. If you know anyone interested in seeing the movie... give them a copy of the bootleg. Let's NOT spend any more of our money on movies that are NOT what we want to see. We shouldn't pay to see a TINO movie. And if I'm wrong, and it ends up being cool (and I'd like to believe that), then go spend money on it - see it in the theater and buy the DVD. Do not obey Don Murphy, Michael Bay, Dreamworks, or anyone else in Hollywood... we, as individuals, control the money, and that is the means by which we control them. The only way they're going to stop fucking up things we enjoy is when we stop PAYING them to do it!
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = NO ORKO by Phategod2	Sep 11th, 2006 08:20:39 PM
You know it too.
Transformers in name only by jegoing74	Sep 11th, 2006 09:30:28 PM
This is the biggest bunch of bullshit I have ever seen. A bent california license plate on a crotch and slit for the bot to piss oil? Hilarity! Thanks so much Michael, the realism and the confidence is building to a crescendo. Sniff, Sniff....... What's that i'm smelling? A bomb coming soon to a theatre near you?
CUNT ON BUMBLEBEE = FLAMES ON OPTIMUS by Optimus Murphy	Sep 11th, 2006 10:02:38 PM
It's the new FLAMES ON OPTIMUS, y'know.
You can only take Orko in small doses. by superninja	Sep 11th, 2006 10:35:06 PM
Snarf, on the other hand, may be erradicated.
Shouldn't the Autobots be hybrid vehicles? by GibsonUSA	Sep 11th, 2006 11:39:28 PM
Good for the environment and the humans.
HYBRID!!! by Phategod2	Sep 12th, 2006 12:05:52 AM
You better be joking those things are fore D&*^#es
Why This Movie Is Still In Production by MarkoOhNo	Sep 12th, 2006 12:19:55 AM
The filmmakers can't tell the difference between the phrases "this film will bomb" and "this film is the bomb".
ORIGINAL OPTIMUS= by Lost Prophet	Sep 12th, 2006 03:47:10 AM
NOT HAVING TO PUT MY PASSWORD IN ANYMORE AS I AM TOO STUPID TO REMEMBER IT.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS= by Lost Prophet	Sep 12th, 2006 03:48:25 AM
Googamooga's return to see Transformers 2007. ME RETARD LIKEE LIKEE MICHAEL BAY BANG BANG
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=BROKEBACK TALKING ARSE by Lost Prophet	Sep 12th, 2006 03:55:18 AM
ABC1 in the UK repeats Scrubs on Saturday mornings. I like scrubs.
Just read that draft script.. by Lemming	Sep 12th, 2006 04:03:39 AM
And I can honestly say I like it for the most part. The haters (of which I was one before I read this script) can suck donkey dick. It's going to be an impressive and faithful (to the parts that matter), Transformers movie and I'm looking forward to it now. True, I'd change a couple of things but I think that with all movies. 90% of any complaint I have is with some of the cheese (all the stuff with the marines) and what megatron looks like/transforms into, although in the context of the script it does make sense.
ORIGINAL OPTIMUS= by Lost Prophet	Sep 12th, 2006 04:09:06 AM
GOOGAMOOGA SURPRISINGLY SHOWING A SENSE OF HUMOUR
How on earth can you say that, Lemming? by Lost Prophet	Sep 12th, 2006 04:18:48 AM
The script is not a transformers script. The marines are unforgivably cheesy and there is an awful lot of "1 boy and his car" shite that makes my skin crawl. I would cry PLANT at you, but I have seen your ID posting on lots of different subjects.
Jimmy Dimmick by Lost Prophet	Sep 12th, 2006 05:16:47 AM
please explain to me why I am pathetic for not being happy about a Michael Bay Giant Robot Film? especially seeing as almost all the information we have received so far- see the Quint interview with Shia Lebeouf- points to their understanding of this being a "human" story with Giant Robots only interacting/ fighting for about 20%. Seeing as you are late to this, and are either new or a plant, please also try to do your explanation without going on about "blocky designs" and the rest of it as the designs are the least of my dislikes. I expect the silence to be deafening.
I could go on for hours Prophet by Jimmie Dimmick	Sep 12th, 2006 06:35:59 AM
I'm not new to this, I've been watching from the sidelines. I usually don't post in the talkbacks but this one has gotten my blood boiling. Let’s start off with the fact that this is a movie based on a cartoon based on a TOY COMMERCIAL. It toys!!! People are acting like this is a movie made about (insert your deity of choice) where instead of preaching piece he picks up guns and shoots sinners between the eyes. It’s a brand of toys that had a great marketing strategy of making what amounted to a half hour commercial to sell them to young boys. Now onto the young boys part. Most of the whiners here don’t fall into that category at all, yet you go on and on about every detail in this movie and don’t realize how pathetic you're all sounding. Next up, the designs…from your bitching I have learned that there were changes made to your almighty toys years ago. They made them look different. (Must have been lagging toy sales) and no one complained about that. You all refer to Generation 1 Optimus Prime vs. Generation 2 Prime. Why can’t this be Generation 3? Didn’t you ever think that the toy company wanted design changes so they could sell more TOYS when the movie comes out? Now onto who is who. Most people know the Transformers but have no clue as to who is who or turns into whatever. They know Prime is a truck. That’s all. You “adults” are going on and on about this character being this instead of that need to turn off the computer and TV and go outside for a bit. No one else really cares. Next MEGATRON. Yup he looks different, see above about changing designs, and if you haven’t read the script here’s a spoiler for you…HE HASN’T TRANSFORMED YET!!!! He looks the way he does because he hasn’t changed. I had to read this script after hearing all the bitching and whining and am even more excited to see it. Since the word is that there will be 3 Transformers movies you can almost expect that Megatron will have a new form in the next movie (if he’s in it). I brought up X-Men and Spiderman because of the HUGE BACKLASH those movies had on the internet before they were released and wanted to point out that it just didn’t matter now DID IT! Last for now onto the PLANT thing. Nope sorry I have nothing to do with this or any movie. You worthless idiots always yell plant whenever someone has a different opinion than you. OK…That’s about enough for now…some people have to go to work.
Lost Prophet by Lemming	Sep 12th, 2006 07:13:54 AM
The Sam and Bumblebee thing reminded me alot of the relatioship between Spike and Hotrod in the animated movie. This is just more of a first meeting than them already fishing together. Basically I'd cut that whole section with the marines talking "a-typical american bullshit" in the aircraft at the beginning, and how god-awful Megatron will look and it'd be golden. Remember the cartoon/animated movie was just as cheesy if not more so. On a second thought, I'd cut out Maggie and Glen entirely and have more robot battles. They seem completely needless to the whole thing.
Also... by Lemming	Sep 12th, 2006 07:15:27 AM
following the script the robots certainly don't get sidelined for human mush. They are trickled at the beginning for suspense, but after that it's all robot for the most part.
hello by Bill Brasky	Sep 12th, 2006 07:26:11 AM
"here's to Bumblebee!!!"
Jimmy Dimmick by Lost Prophet	Sep 12th, 2006 07:38:35 AM
as I said before- Try to argue this with me without wittering on about toy commercials. They do not apply to my opinion of the film I don't particularly give a fuck about the autobot designs I even quite like the optimus design, and I don't have a hang up on G1. I object to the Megatron and Starscream designs, as I think they are messy, busy and ugly- without being villainous looking. There are other posters that are far more qualified than I to argue this. Leaving aside the flames on optimus thing/ original optimus thing- which I do because I find it amusing to do so, all my problems with this film are that I think it is going to be a crap film. I base this on the script, the talent involved in making it (shia lepoof/ Michael Bay and Don Murphy especially) are mediocre. I have read the script and think it is a hackneyed pile of garbage. It hits almost all of my "yuck" reactions, and the fact that megatron has not transformed yet really is only one of the issues with it. He is only at the climax- Your major villain pitches up at the end! Anyway, you can talk about sequels as much as you like, but I seem to remember him getting destroyed, just after Bumblebee's vomit inducing GOOO SAAAAAM GOOO line. I have posted before about most of the world not giving a monkeys about Transformers, and I have repeatedly posted about not understanding the deliberate attempt to limit their market by constricting it to 7 year olds, when there are countless examples of "family movies" with enough in them to keep the adults interested that coined it in (Shrek 2) When you couple in the arrogant, unprofessional and inexplicable behaviour of murphy this all adds up to me wanting to not see this. I could be wrong but at the moment... sorry about the plant business that was childish. I am also aware that bitching about it will probably not make any difference. It took me a while to respond as I am also at work, but will keep half an eye out for your reply.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=WHO CARES THAT FREAKIN MUCH!!?? by boba_rob	Sep 12th, 2006 07:44:20 AM
It's only a movie-based on a cartoon-based on a toy. Does it really matter that much that one character has flames on it? Will that affect the whole story? Now, if there were flames on Kong, than I would have been pissed at Peter Jackson. If Superman returned with flames on his ribcage, than I would have been a little upset. But it's just a giant robot that turns into a semi. Who cares. Maybe it will even actually look cooler in the movie. Besides, think about this. I have little faith in Michael Bay as well, but, it is reassuring that he is paying attention to little details like flames to define the abdomen. Shows promise. Peace out wi-otches!
Thanks googamooga...and Jimmie Dimmick by NightArrows	Sep 12th, 2006 08:00:20 AM
I do try. And it's nothing personal, just business. Like when the giant douche Jimmie Dimmick rants and raves over us ranting and raving, well he must PLANT his cock back in his asscrack and stare in the mirror for hours to man up the kind of estrogen needed to be such a little bitch. It's simple math really: 20 years of waiting for this "toy commercial", one that hasn't been done in live action, meaning it SHOULD be G1 being the first, and SHOULD be done right + a douchebag of a director and fucking terrible design = A steaming pile of shit that we have the right to bemoan because of the timeframe of the first part of this equation. OR Button Mushroom penis + Male Vagina = Jimmie Dimmick.... And no I don't need to see the movie to know it will suck balls because Bay + Anything = Moldy Diarrhea
Fair enough, lemming by Lost Prophet	Sep 12th, 2006 08:38:10 AM
everyone has his own interpretation. I don't remember the cartoon- so therefore, I don't have this frame of reference, but even thinking about that little turd labeouf trying to act these scenes makes me nauseous.
The simple fact remains by Energoncube	Sep 12th, 2006 08:39:02 AM
Bay and Co. were not creative enough to give us. A. A story that stayed true to the original. B. Robots that looked like the original to SOME degree. C. Characterization that stayed true to the original. and D. designs that would allow TOYS TO ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO TRANSFORM! You can not tell me that they can even MAKE a toy with these designs that will actually TRANSFORM.
Just for boba_rob by Lost Prophet	Sep 12th, 2006 08:39:28 AM
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=CUNTS THAT DON'T GET THE JOKE.
Sorry anchorite, I forgot you existed for a bit there. by Childe Roland	Sep 12th, 2006 08:48:37 AM
As to your question: No, I don't watch Bill Maher. Tried once. Found him dreadfully smug and self-indulgent. Also just not very funny. I enjoy irreverence but I prefer it with a dash of relevance and some creativity. I would think you'd be embarrassed to repeat a joke that could be overheard being mistold (and funny only for the mistelling) at any number of NASCAR events or coming out of the car ahead of you in the drive-thru at Arby's. I thought you might be smarter, if not classier, than that. But I've given you way too much credit in the past. 9-11...that's some funny shit, right there. Thank god all those people conveniently died at the WTC and in any number of suicide bombings since so you could have a punchline for your tribute to tragedy.
I've just about had it with this "testing mode" crap by YackBacker	Sep 12th, 2006 09:32:28 AM
It takes a good several minutes for our posts to register, and having it so good for so long with the old way makes me hate this new mode a helluva lot. I have lost a lot of motivation to post on this site- where's the fun in waiting to see your post appear for ten minutes when you're trying to converse with other TBers? Blech. Terrible. Just terrible.
Too much coffee by SteelCitySteve	Sep 12th, 2006 09:34:00 AM
Like it or not, fanboys (and I don't like Megatron), this is at least our FIRST shot at a live-action TF movie. The script could be a LOT worse and no matter what you say about Bay, the action will look spectacular. It ain't 86 any more. Look at how many different versions there have been of the toys and just admit to yourselves that you'll be there on opening night.
UH OH KIDS.......... by supermonkey	Sep 12th, 2006 09:38:02 AM
I just saw Xhibit drive Bumblebee into the garage of West Coast Design in L.A. and an MTV film crew was following......looks like a certain 'autobot' is about to get pimped!
RATCHET AND IRONHIDE PHOTOS by Squashua	Sep 12th, 2006 11:52:44 AM
Car mode only: http://tformers.com/article.ph p?sid=6500&mode=&order=0&thold =0
CUNT ON BUMBLEBEE = LIFE IS A TOY COMMERCIAL by Optimus Murphy	Sep 12th, 2006 12:03:20 PM
Dipshits.
Wow, people are actually defending this movie? by GibsonUSA	Sep 12th, 2006 12:52:38 PM
Wow, that just goes to show that there will be people defending ANYTHING. No matter how shitty and disrespectful a ful is turning out, there will seem to be people coming out of the woodwork to defend it......was it like this for Godzilla 98? Batman & Robin? The "CHILL OUT! Its a movie based off a TOY!" argument is retarded and a cop-out. Just because Transformers has a long standing toyline frees up Bay to make a shitty movie?? So Uwe Boll is should also be relieved of criticism because his movies are based off Playstation games? Um, no....there is never any excuse for shit, unless it is coming o0ut of an anus. Transformers had a toyline, yes, but that is part of an antire franchise that comprises TV shows, movies, comics, and more.....similar to other franchises like Spiderman. Almost all comic hero movies are made in part to sell toys.....from Batman Begins to Spiderman 3. But just because each of these franchises have Happy Meals and other merchandise does not excuse the kind of disregard for quality and source material we are seeing here. The Spiderman movies are not EXACTLY like either the comics or the cartoons, but they are close and closely reference the source material. One look at Megatron 2007 shows you what Bay thinks of our TF source material....and its BULLSHIT.
don't worry friends - ON THE BIGSCREEN... by 001	Sep 12th, 2006 01:01:27 PM
you will be so glad the redesigned robots are so "busy". when you look at the concept drawings at 5 inches tall on your monitor, the details look jumbled and too busy for the eye to cleanly process. once you see Optimus Prime on the bigscreen and 25 feets tall like king kong, the transformers will be the most beautiful designs viewers will have ever witnessed in cinematic history. i can't fuckin wait. i also can't wait to punch the haters' fuckin jaws back into place from off the floor once they witness how badass it's going to be when the tranformers transform right in your FACE and you're just staring up at them like HOLY SHI and BOOM they go into action and you're just standing there like a dumbass humanoid. fuck
CUNT ON BUMBLEBEE = FAILURE AT INTRAWEB DERRRRRRR by Optimus Murphy	Sep 12th, 2006 01:17:02 PM
Is this site now directed and produced by Michael Bay and Don Murphy?
001 and the "Bigscreen" by NightArrows	Sep 12th, 2006 03:17:44 PM
QUOTE: "i also can't wait to punch the haters' fuckin jaws back into place from off the floor once they witness how badass it's going to be when the tranformers transform right in your FACE" END QUOTE No, our jaws will have slipped because we will have witnessed the biggest "coming out" in history, that being YOU out of Bay's gaping ass for being such a lickspittle little shitfister. Is it hard to type wayyyy up there in Mount (Bay)Doom? Does it smell like McDonalds and Bad Boys II? You should change your name to Lemmiwinks. Just another sad example of the type of dick cozy that belongs over on Bay's forum slurping up that fatneck Nelson's leavings and hangin off his every fuckwitted word.
Lemming and Jimmie have no clue by Phategod2	Sep 12th, 2006 03:29:41 PM
JImmie I stop reading your argument the instant you called TF a 30 minute Commercial I'm tired of hearing about once a week your the guy that was either too old to care or to young to remeber so Your opinion could care less to me and most fans of TF becasuse the smae could said for any form of media that had a merchandising tie-in. as for lemming 1st. it was daniel and hotrod that had a relationship and once the decepticons attacked autobot city it was over they got seperated and only shared two more scenes together. That script hold almost nothing in common with any transformer line, plot, or characteristic it read like Herbie,meets christine, meets ID4.
CUNT ON BUMBLEBEE = 001'S LOGIC by Optimus Murphy	Sep 12th, 2006 03:33:06 PM
If you make shit big enough it's no longer shit. BRILLIANT!!!!!
GibsonUSA by Immortal_Fish	Sep 12th, 2006 04:08:36 PM
Pity them. If the cartoon was "just a toy commercial" as they say, then what does that make the film adapted from it that they are so desperately anticipating? Fools.
You're right, 001 by Immortal_Fish	Sep 12th, 2006 04:15:48 PM
The visuals in Van Helsing and Extraordinary Gentlemen kicked all three dimensions of my ass. What fantastic looking films! I didn't even notice how my ears were bleeding from the awful dialog until hours later. Fuck the story. The visuals were absolutely all I needed! So glad these flicks were smash sucesses too. I smell franchise, baby! Franchise!
Script by MortGuffman	Sep 12th, 2006 04:52:15 PM
Has anyone seen the draft of the script that's been leaked onto the 'net? I'm not a Transformers fan (not a hater either), so I could care less if Optimus Prime transforms into a giant dildo, but I hope that they did a MAJOR rewrite on this. I was so bored to tears. The Transformers take a backseat in their own fucking movie to a bunch of generic, cliche human characters. Optimus Prime doesn't appear on screen until page 58 and Megatron isn't even MENTIONED until page 60. The script I saw was awful. I hope Bay ordered some major rewrites. People seeing a Transformers movie wants to see the Transformers beating the hell out of each other, not watching an awkward teen-ager clusmily pursue some chick we all know he'll end up with anyway.
GibsonUSA (re: Godzilla '98) by Chief Joseph	Sep 12th, 2006 06:23:25 PM
I found a couple threads on usenet by a guy that could smell the stench of Godzilla '98 before anyone else. He also seems to have been trashed and labeled a "whiner". http://groups.google.com/group /alt.movies.monster/browse_frm /thread/e65ce9b140620f8a http://groups.google.com/group /alt.movies.monster/browse_frm /thread/4275755b467c437d Also, an amusing Godzilla post that should be used as the textbook example of "plant": http://groups.google.com/group /rec.arts.movies.current-films /browse_frm/thread/299f2af7431 5605f
Jimmie Dimmick - Transformers Apologist by Jimmie Dimmick	Sep 12th, 2006 07:20:49 PM
I might as well get that out of the way! >>as I said before- Try to argue this with me without wittering on about toy commercials. They do not apply to my opinion of the film
Hey NightArrows by Jimmie Dimmick	Sep 12th, 2006 07:25:25 PM
why don't you put down you toy robot, turn off your computer and go fuck your mother!
and GibsonUSA by Jimmie Dimmick	Sep 12th, 2006 07:29:00 PM
It not the "fools" that are anticipating the movie, it's those that feel the need to piss all over something (ANYTHING) that they haven't seen yet. I may hate this movie when I see it, but I'll see it before I form an opinion.
and Phategod2 by Jimmie Dimmick	Sep 12th, 2006 08:31:34 PM
Of course you stopped reading it when I said the Transformers were a toy commercial. You whiners are just like the 911 conspiracy idiots...you IGNORE and brush off the facts that completely trash your story with an “I don’t want to hear about that”. Well hear this, the Transformers isn’t “like any other form of media that had a merchandising tie-in”, it was a TOY FIRST. The show was invented to sell the toy line! This isn’t a Captain Jack Sparrow happy meal. This is a “Hey let’s make a movie based on a ride” thing. The toy came first, the rest was marketing. That doesn’t mean the movie will suck…see above Pirates reference…it means that when people bash you and your whining kind for an endless devotion to a LINE OF TOYS…you can’t just brush it off because you can’t face the truth.
I cant see Responses by Phategod2	Sep 12th, 2006 09:37:25 PM
This New TB's sucks monkey balls
brokebackcowboy by Immortal_Fish	Sep 12th, 2006 10:16:07 PM
Please, please, please do not allow your lefty uber hatred to allow me to align myself against your righteous anger against studio unfaithfulness. 9/11 HAPPENED. There are people in this world that WANT to kill us. Perhaps, just perhaps, it MIGHT be unwarranted. Perhaps, just perhaps, they MIGHT want to kill us because they WANT to kill us. Just saying. Level yon hatred at ye Murphy progeny, my son...
JIMMIE DIMMICK = FLAMES ON OPTIMUS NIPPLES by Phategod2	Sep 12th, 2006 10:22:02 PM
SO LET ME GET THIS RIGHT You actually had to shell out money to tell the Batman & Robin Sucked You paid someone before you found out AVP was a piece of shit. Look I've said this a million times I dont go hunting for movies to shoot down Project like Spiderman 3 look awesome; and for one reason The director and production team have a overall respect for the product, even things they don't like a la venom they still show respect for. But Mikey bay and Don murphy have shown no respect for the franchise or the fans And MR. Murphy showed a total lack of respect to me personally so he and his movies can go Fuck thereselves as he will never get any of my money, as far as I am concerned Murphy has made a enemy for Life.
G1 OPTIMUS = FLAMES ON JIMMIE DIMMICK by Phategod2	Sep 12th, 2006 10:26:24 PM
Sorry i had to Jimmie
FOO=BROKEBACKCOWBOY'S 911 BULLSHIT by Hairy Nutsack	Sep 12th, 2006 10:55:11 PM
Dude, let me say it in plain simple english, it wasn't a fucking cruise missile, and there are tons of pictures that prove it. Pictures of things like airplane wreckage and such, Popular Science, among others, has completely owned you and your conspiracy nutters theories, go look it up. Totally and completely fucking pwned by facts and photos. Now STFU about 911 and politics and lets get back to the Bay bashing.
Screw HTML just give us a edit & quote button by Phategod2	Sep 12th, 2006 11:39:27 PM
and let this thing update instantly
Transformers 2007 needs its own "Sub Zero" by GibsonUSA	Sep 12th, 2006 11:48:49 PM
Remember how Batman & Robin was released and was complete shit. Yet remember how Batman fans could take solace in the high quality animated Batman:Sub Zero released that same year that completely owned B&R? That's what Transformers 2007 needs....an animated direct-to-DVD companion that is true to the source material and completely owns the live action. Just imagine TRANSFORMERS: THE (animated) MOVIE 2, with all the G1 characters back, the original anime studio back (Toho?) and offering the difinitive conclusion to the G1 series, starting at the end of Rebirth and going all the way to the final Optimus Prime/Galvatron showdown. An animated DVD companion to the live action movie like this would almost make the big screen crap forgivable.
Transformers STARTED a mere toyline,but ended as more. by GibsonUSA	Sep 12th, 2006 11:56:12 PM
There is no reason to dismiss everything that is Transformers simply from its origins. It started out as a toyline. So WHAT? It since became so much more than that, to the degree where the franchise is not dependant on the toyline any longer in order to exist. It is now a series of TV shows, comics, books.....it has developed its own complex universe. Even if all the Transformers toys in the world disappeared tomorrow, there'd still be Transformers. It was born as something but became something else. I dont play with TF toys anymore....I'm in my 20s for cryin out loud....but I still love to rewatch the 1986 movie and the shows, because the universe is JUST SO GOOD. It's not just nostalgia....otherwise I would still be going nuts over Robotix and The Snorks....FUCK THE SNORKS! It's not nostalgia....its something GOOD that I stay a fan of because its JUST THAT GOOD. SO when you take thsis thing that is GOOD, that has held up for over TWO DECADES due to its GOODNESS, and start stripping SAID GOODNESS AWAY, people get PISSED. Then guys have to come and say why bother its just toys. Ahem, Transformers stopped just being about toys a LONG time ago....
nothing made Batman & Robin forgivable by Phategod1	Sep 13th, 2006 12:57:52 AM
NOTHING
nothing in 3 hours by Phategod1	Sep 13th, 2006 04:19:35 AM
is this down again
Jimmie by Lost Prophet	Sep 13th, 2006 04:40:00 AM
OK, do you want to answer my reasonable response to you? or are you just going to bitch at "Haters". I notice that you don't address any of the points I made, just preferring to bang on about it being a toy commercial Did you quote me? BTW, what were you trying to achieve by doing that?
FOO=3 HOUR LAG BETWEEN POSTS SHOWING UP by Lost Prophet	Sep 13th, 2006 05:51:53 AM
You know it!
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=BEING TO LAZY TO TYPE by Lost Prophet	Sep 13th, 2006 06:34:15 AM
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS. Not to mention the massive lag between posting times and appearances.
lost prophet by Jimmie Dimmick	Sep 13th, 2006 06:40:38 AM
My post to you was actually MUCH longer and addressed all of your points...but the fucking thing CUT OFF AFTER THE FIRST LINE!!!!! (Not a scream at you, just this new talkback where my post didn't appear for at least 2 hours after I sent it) I just checked this morning and it's all missing. The others went through. Yup...I bashed those 3 for being complete dicks, but you I actually THANKED for being civil! I don't have much time at all this morning so here's a VERY brief recap. I quoted you and credited you (that's where it cut off!) and then pointed out that no one has seen this film, the final draft of the script or any of the transformers in motion. Maybe everyone should wait until they've actually seen it and/or read reviews from someone they trust before forming an opinion. Geeze, I took the time to go point by point but it’s not there!!!!! Yet another reason to avoid talkbacks!
TRANSFORMERS SCRIPT REVIEW! by Luke_Cage	Sep 13th, 2006 06:56:40 AM
...the horror! http://www.therossman.com/rrr/ other/tfscript.html Word
Jimmie Dimmick by NightArrows	Sep 13th, 2006 07:54:57 AM
QUOTE:"why don't you put down you toy robot, turn off your computer and go fuck your mother!" END QUOTE Now how can I fuck MY mother when I'm the 8th man in the 24 man train that's running up and down YOUR filthy Gollum of a mother? Unless of course I use the cloning tech found in Bay's stunning epic 'The Island' and make a duplicate of myself... As for the leaked script, I just went through that review on it, and I swear to god if that's the filming script, then Bay, and ALL of his fans, truly deserve to be sent into the sun on a rocket driven by Ashley Simpson. What a pathetically stunning hunk of pure shit that leaked script is...
Jimmie by Lost Prophet	Sep 13th, 2006 07:56:53 AM
fair enough, I hope this stops when the TB gets fixed.
I can't get that script link to open by Lost Prophet	Sep 13th, 2006 07:58:42 AM
and NightArrows is the funniest TB'er present at the moment.
Jimmie, seeing as I also just got cut off by Lost Prophet	Sep 13th, 2006 08:10:04 AM
as I said to roland above, I object to spending an exhorbitant amount of money before I am allowed to have an opinion. I know that this is a circular argument, but as I outlined above when talking to Roland, I have seen enough so far to know that this will be crap. The wait and see line adopted by a lot people doesn't really wash (I despised that script, don't like Michael Bay, and hate Shia LEbeouf) so to spend money on something I know I will dislike seems to me to be foolish. I could be reconvinced, but it won't be the Trailer or Transformers moving (because- let's face it, they are going to be the same thing). I lost hope for this completely when that little turd was gobbing off about "Creative Control" and how he finds it really hard to "imagine shit"(act)- and unless his bravado masks an olivier-level performance (which I doubt) I will be reconvinced by either a positive review from Vern (he hates Bay), or if I can trick one of my stupid friends into seeing it first. At this moment in time, this looks like a turd. Anyways, back too work.
"seeing them in motion"... by NightArrows	Sep 13th, 2006 08:30:33 AM
What you are all saying with your "you haven't seen them in motion" argument is that if I see this chick "in motion":http://tinyurl.com/zgo 2l it will instantly make her look like Charlize Theron?
Is that porn NA? by Lost Prophet	Sep 13th, 2006 09:19:19 AM
I am at work and am curious, but daren't open it. Could you post a warning if it is or not in future
Hairy Nutsack, brokeback, & cruise missles by Mr. Nice Gaius	Sep 13th, 2006 09:26:07 AM
Forget it Hairy, you will never convince brokebackcowboy otherwise. Strangely enough, there is even LESS evidence of a cruise missle hitting the Pentagon than a plane but "those folks" don't seem to notice that. *** Hold on, wait...this is a Transformers TB. Carry on.
Thansk alot MNG by Lost Prophet	Sep 13th, 2006 09:27:41 AM
this TB will now self-destruct FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=911 REFERENCES IN A TF TB
It isn't porn by NightArrows	Sep 13th, 2006 09:27:55 AM
and she has a bikini on...
redesign haters will convert by 001	Sep 13th, 2006 09:35:58 AM
yes - that includes you night arrows. i am no bay lover, although i do have a soft spot for "The Rock" in my heart. i just know from experience that a design seen on paper, 5-8 inches tall, translated to "life-size" are two different apples. when they are correct scale, you almost can't have enough detail! and just to let you know, bay's ass smells like your mom's hairy hole. nasty. and immortal_fish, whether bay can pull off the movie itself remains to be seen - we all know his track record and it aint gonna be a paul greengrass united 93. i'm just hoping we get a pirates of the caribbean and not an id4. but right now i just vouch for the redesign and effects - they are gonna be badass.
Nasty shit by Lost Prophet	Sep 13th, 2006 10:10:18 AM
that was rotten. I feel ill now.
Lost Prophet by NightArrows	Sep 13th, 2006 10:23:20 AM
That was my point, sorry it made you ill though. Seeing this shit MOVE, won't change the fact that it's just shit MOVING...
So the effects will be great and.... by Lost Prophet	Sep 13th, 2006 10:25:35 AM
the film will suck balls- Coming to a toilet near you, Don "LXG" Murphy Presents a Michael "Pearl Harbour" Bay Film. Starring that little turd who did his best to out-shit the flagrant product placement in I, Robot. Written by the creative geniuses behind "The Core" no thanks.
Don't thank me Lost Prophet... by Mr. Nice Gaius	Sep 13th, 2006 10:32:27 AM
Thank the other guys earlier in the thread.
CUNT ON BUMBLEBEE = CRUISE MISSLE INTO PENTAGON by Optimus Murphy	Sep 13th, 2006 10:37:01 AM
9/11 was shot on a sound stage in Burbank, right next door to the moon landing. Dumbfucks!!!
CUNT ON BUMBLEBEE = STAR WARS DVD RE-RELEASE ver 342342 by Optimus Murphy	Sep 13th, 2006 10:38:06 AM
Burning your money is a better investment.
I know, MNG by Lost Prophet	Sep 13th, 2006 11:10:36 AM
but they run out of steam if not inflamed. I am equally grateful to them for bringing it up in the first place
Have you guys seen this interview? by Hairy Nutsack	Sep 13th, 2006 01:04:36 PM
http://tinyurl.com/gb79s - jesus christ on a pogostick!! Yeah Peter Cullen loved the script, WTF else is he going to say when being handed a huge payday like this? Who're they fucking kidding?
Where's Perceptor? by Telestream	Sep 13th, 2006 01:14:38 PM
Yikes. Now I'm getting nervous because from that still it looks a little low budget. The Autobots looks almost two-dimensional, but i thought that it was going to be 3-d animation? and also, there doesn't seem to be a Perceptor on set, but according to the version of the script I read he's only in it for one scene, so that's okay. But i don't like the looks of these "flat" Transformers. Any info? Are these fake?
is the tb working by Phategod1	Sep 13th, 2006 02:09:12 PM
instant posting yet
how about by Phategod2	Sep 13th, 2006 05:00:16 PM
now is it working now
SHOULDN'T OPTIMUS BE A TOYOTA CAMRY? by GibsonUSA	Sep 13th, 2006 05:02:26 PM
Think about it. According to the script the Autobots want to blend in and be unnoticed, and can scan whatever they want as their alternate mode. Also, they have access to the internet and other resources where they can "download" information on human culture. Why then, would Optimus and Co. choose to be a gigantic truck with flames, a Hummer, a hardtop Pontiac Solstice, and a 2009 Chevy Camaro that isnt even out for the public yet?????? Um, to be unnoticed, don't you think they'd pick more plain, common autos? Shouldn't Optimus be a Toyota Camry, Ratchet a Dodge Caravan, Jazz a Corolla, and Bumblebee a Chevy Suburban (in keeping with the 'Huge Bumblebee' they seem to want) or something? Plain Jane cars that will go unnoticed by the humans and the Decepticons....For Starscream to find a Autobot disguised as a 2009 Camaro on the streets, in 2007? Not so hard.....for Starscream to look for a single particular COROLLA on the streets?? YEAH RIGHT!
What is this, freaking Bionicles? by LordSoth	Sep 13th, 2006 08:01:13 PM
I haven't put any hate on this film yet, but I have to say these robots look like freaking Bionicles. They don't look like Transformers. Who the hell did they let design those? They don't look like robots from any of The Transformers series. You can see their hydraulics. It's pornographic.
this TB shit is still f'ed up by Phategod2	Sep 13th, 2006 08:14:03 PM
still
That interview Hairy linked by Immortal_Fish	Sep 13th, 2006 09:09:35 PM
Check it out. RE: Cullen voicing Prime (paraphrasing) "We were caught off guard. That's post-production. We were focusing on shooting." Now, I admittedly know jack about filmmaking. But I've seen enough behind-the-scenes footage to know that animators create their work off the energy of the voiceactors. Please cure my ignorance -- by his statement does he mean that BOTH voicing and animating are all post-production? Even if so, isn't Cullen's voice iconic enough to have measurable impact on what is filmed during shooting? Meaning, that he would bring sufficient gravitas to perhaps increase the number of spoken lines? I dunno, these comments didn't sit well with me. Perhaps I'm just oversensitive about the wealth of crap news coming out of this development property.
Don Murphy seems like a nice guy. by GibsonUSA	Sep 13th, 2006 09:41:57 PM
I just saw that Don Murphy interview from Comiccon. Its the first time I saw him. It seems like a genuinely nice guy. You peeps here make him out to be some monster....but he seems cool.
DON MURPHY = FLAMES OUT MY ASS by Phategod2	Sep 13th, 2006 10:11:25 PM
Don Murhpy is a Douche Bag as a Employee for the most hated branch of the Government I get hate all the time but I dont take it personally, I called out Murphy here and told him like it was then I went to siebertron.com and asked him some valid questions and he couldn't take it when people who never posted here asked him questions he was very condescending. Murphy is very small man with smaller accomplishments I will never pay to see any of his movies and If you do anything less then kiss his ass if you meet him you will get the same impression.
Brokeback... by Mr. Nice Gaius	Sep 13th, 2006 11:16:04 PM
http://tinyurl.com/cn6yl *** Here is something for you to gnaw on. And I've heard much more information has been coming to light about WTC 7 and it's not looking good for the conspiracists. Cheers.
Final Optimus Prime by Frankenblogger	Sep 14th, 2006 12:38:36 AM
http://tinyurl.com/kg6xt
hmm- Is the TB working yet? by Lost Prophet	Sep 14th, 2006 04:00:15 AM
Testing
re: LOST PROPHET; here's the corrected link to the Tras by Luke_Cage	Sep 14th, 2006 04:46:10 AM
http://www.therossman.com/rrr/ other/tfscript.html
It clearly isn't by Lost Prophet	Sep 14th, 2006 05:17:12 AM
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=TAKING NEARLY A WEEK TO UPDATE A WEBSITE. Testing mode is shit.
Cheers, but I got it working yesterday by Lost Prophet	Sep 14th, 2006 06:43:18 AM
dude is rightfully upset by it. I am going to find more reviews because they tend to agree with my opinion.
The twat at Latino reviews by Lost Prophet	Sep 14th, 2006 06:47:13 AM
who reviewed this script is a complete ball juggling fool. "ubercool producer Don Murphy" eh? you what? "I catch a lot of flack from readers because I get complaints that I love everything I read". Indeed. Twat. To be honest I stopped reading after this. What a cunt.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=9/11 PARANOIA by Lost Prophet	Sep 14th, 2006 07:39:51 AM
please stop it, brokeback. 9/11 happened- do you really think you need to sully the memories of those that died on that flight by endlessly raking over this? Do you think it would make any difference to any theorists opinion if they released the footage you are asking for? of course it wouldn't poeple will just move onto the next crackpot theory.
You are bang on about by Lost Prophet	Sep 14th, 2006 07:42:02 AM
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=TB UPDATE LAG now, can we move on to questioning murphy's sexual orientation, intellect, parentage etc. through a series of humourous FLAMES ON OPTIMUS gags. It could be explained by the fact that he received too much attention as a child. You ever think of that? his behaviour strikes me as that of a spoiled brat screaming for sweeties.
Don Murphy by NightArrows	Sep 14th, 2006 07:56:38 AM
Don't take Don Murphy's rants as anything personal. He is just upset that his chest is eating his face by way of his neck. Ain't that right, fatneck? Yeah, I'm talking to you Murphy, you horse fisting lickspittle. Put down that real doll shaped liked Michael Bay and do us all a favor by deep sixing this movie before it gets any worse. Awww, who am I kidding, it can't get any worse!
I'm just going to keep typing this till someone does by Lost Prophet	Sep 14th, 2006 08:50:13 AM
something about it FLAMES ON OPTIMUS= TB UPDATE LAG This one is different I can see the post title on the article page, but when I open the page the posts vanish. I want to read what NIght Arrows has written about Donny Spoilt Twat Murphy. I also want to continue this discussion with Brokeback before he has to go to work. THis is bloody confusing.
Brokeback by Lost Prophet	Sep 14th, 2006 08:56:47 AM
I'm not saying that following blindly or the stalling that was placed on the investigation honours their memory. I don't know who Ann Coulter is but she sounds like a cunt from all accounts. I am however, wondering whether another round of "911 was caused by arab terrorists vs 911 was caused by George W Bush/ Zionists/ Neocons/ I don't know- the martian lovechild of dead elvis" where neither side will give an inch and the thread will degenerate into insults and cries of PWND, is really the best way to show some respect especially this close to the 5 year anniversary. When I said sully their memories I was referring specifically to the pentagon flight which seemingly doesn't exist. This particular argument does the people that died on that flight a huge disservice. If you see my point. FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=TB UPDATE LAG
CUNT ON BUMBLEBEE = TITS ON COSMOS by Optimus Murphy	Sep 14th, 2006 10:05:14 AM
Cause tits on Cosmos would be wrong.
brokebackcowboy by Mr. Nice Gaius	Sep 14th, 2006 10:19:22 AM
I think you need to go back and read your post again. Quote: "how does an airplane, with all its parts, shells AND ENGINES AND WINGS get insinerated completely (as the official story ludicrously claims) and leave behind flesh and undamaged windows on the Pentagon facade? Well, it doesn't." -- Yes, it does. I know people who saw the plane over 95 and I know people who were in the Pentagon. There were parts of the plane all over the place including the inside of the building. And during explosions, body parts (flesh) and lighter materials end up in the strangest places. Kind of like the remains they keep finding from the WTC. Now, you're not really trying to be that contrarian simply for the sake of the "official story" are you? Come on, you're smarter than that. You've got to think beyond the conspiracy party line, too. It's quite the cul-de-sac of misinformed interpretation.
I Have a theory about TB's by Lost Prophet	Sep 14th, 2006 10:27:56 AM
I think they are cached until there is a certain amount or a certain amount of time passes. So...
TEST by Lost Prophet	Sep 14th, 2006 10:28:14 AM
comment 2
Test by Lost Prophet	Sep 14th, 2006 10:28:31 AM
Comment 3
Nope that didn't work by Lost Prophet	Sep 14th, 2006 10:29:03 AM
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=THE MASSIVE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT HAS PASSED SINCE THIS TB WAS UPDATED.
brokeback..... by Hairy Nutsack	Sep 14th, 2006 11:28:34 AM
Let me get this straight, you want me to go find evidence from a credible news source but you get to use Loose Change as your crdible source? Does anyone else see the inconsistency in that? Scrool this this link and you'll find your credible news sources, but also read what this page has to say - http://tinyurl.com/z97d6
ONCE AGAIN by Lost Prophet	Sep 14th, 2006 11:36:04 AM
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=2 HOUR LAG BETWEEN POSTS APPEARING
Hairy- by Lost Prophet	Sep 14th, 2006 11:59:39 AM
It's nothing compared to the paranoid anti-zionist crap that is going on in the Mel Gibson TB
Finally- by Lost Prophet	Sep 14th, 2006 12:11:22 PM
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS= 2 Hour lag between posts appearing. Is this a deliberate effort to kill the TF tb?
First TF rendered scene on YouTube!! by Hairy Nutsack	Sep 14th, 2006 01:17:19 PM
http://tinyurl.com/qexdz - I'm really surprised by this, it looks fantastic. This is a fight between Prime and Megatron and what I believe is Devastator/Constructicons, you can clearly see the multiple robots coming together to form a larger bot, so I guess they have a few surprises up their sleeves. If the rest of the movie has this level of FX quality them I'm there for sure! Gonna have to eat a lot of crow once everyone sees this, we were totally wrong. This movie is going to rock.
You got it cowboy.... by Hairy Nutsack	Sep 14th, 2006 11:05:07 PM
http://debris.0catch.com/ - more pictures than you're going to want to see. Pics, links to pics, with more links to pics. Enjoy your crow, would you like to sample our house wine with your meal? ;)
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS by Flux_brown	Sep 14th, 2006 11:42:35 PM
you know why right? coz CHUCK NORRIS said so...
I have never doubted that the animation will be fine by Lost Prophet	Sep 15th, 2006 03:46:26 AM
the rest of the film...BLECH. It will be a big, shiny, noisy, brainless turd. The special effects on the other hand will be great.
Nope, still broken by Lost Prophet	Sep 15th, 2006 03:47:20 AM
Therefore, as it is not fixed: FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=TB UPDATE LAG. I will have another look at 10.40 and see if it has improved.
where is everybody by Lost Prophet	Sep 15th, 2006 08:36:17 AM
Flames on Optimus= lack of support.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=SEVERE LACK OF COOL NEWS by Lost Prophet	Sep 15th, 2006 09:25:43 AM
what's with all the articles on The Last Kiss? Is there so little else? Christ, I'm bored.
CUNT ON BUMBLEBEE = RICED OUT CARS by Optimus Murphy	Sep 15th, 2006 12:31:42 PM
Does your mom know what you've done to her Civic?

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