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Optimus: Clearer And Upper Closer!!

Too Soon!!! by Admiral_Kirk	Sep 5th, 2006 12:17:01 PM

SECOND by nef	Sep 5th, 2006 12:19:11 PM
BITCHES
Flames on Optimus= Jugg Fuckled by ZombieChrisReeve	Sep 5th, 2006 12:21:35 PM

Meh... by Blartifartass	Sep 5th, 2006 12:24:04 PM
Hate the face, his eyes look like those retarded sons of Toms from Tom Goes to the Mayor
Merrick... by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 5th, 2006 12:24:06 PM
Is this a photograph of the actual "toy"? Or is this a CGI rendering? The head/face doesn't really look like the other images and near-images we've seen so far. Hmmm...
I refuse to try to declare FIRST! by Jak0lantern01	Sep 5th, 2006 12:24:41 PM
Anyway, wow, it's as we've seen before, just clearer. I'll wait for the critic reviews before dropping my $$$$ on this one.
cool enough.... by rotten666	Sep 5th, 2006 12:25:47 PM
I'm keeping an open mind. Although megatron don't look too cool. I'll postpone judgement until I see the flick.
Hrmm... by Shepard Bauer	Sep 5th, 2006 12:26:01 PM
I dunno... DEFINATELY don't see the ribs deal. He does look extremely massive, which is awesome, and the back view, well, they have to put all that mass of the cab somewhere, so I'm fine with the body work... not a huge fan of the head, but I'm willing to go with it... I'm finaly resigned to the fact that this is not the Transformers I grew up with. Hopefully this movie will rock on its own. All the characters look awesome but different. My emotions have been upgraded from dejected/hopefull to mixed/hopefull/slightly numb. I don't like his colors but Bay will get my $8...
Good Lord!!! Prime has an "x-treme" goatee!!! by moondoggy2u	Sep 5th, 2006 12:26:10 PM
To say nothing of chicken feet or prison tats...Pimp My Prime in all his x-treme glory!!!No wonder Megatron is hates him;)
Oh, wait, I didn't see the head shots by Jak0lantern01	Sep 5th, 2006 12:26:57 PM
Eh, leave the damn 'battle mask' on the whole time. With a mug like that, how is he supposed to emote? Wasn't that the thing? Sorry, but they're not Transformers. GoBots from hell maybe, but definitely not TF's.
Egyptian eyes....... by tile_mcgillus	Sep 5th, 2006 12:28:34 PM
His eyes look like they are referencing Egyptian heirogylphics or droopy the dog. The flames........sad face 5000.
Wow by bollhatergc	Sep 5th, 2006 12:29:54 PM
we've come a long way since we first saw him as a purple flaming truck...
Looks like the Zord from the first Power Ranger movie by Retlaw Kciuq	Sep 5th, 2006 12:31:10 PM
Don't know if that's a good thing; depends on which fanboy you ask.
All of this was STOLEN from Firefly by Darth_Baltar	Sep 5th, 2006 12:31:51 PM
...or at least that would be the claim of the Whedonites.
FYI... by McTitties	Sep 5th, 2006 12:32:39 PM
He will transform via his special, built-in CUNTFLAPS.
Nice ass by blackwood	Sep 5th, 2006 12:33:35 PM

hahaa bad crap by foree forehead	Sep 5th, 2006 12:34:39 PM
he has some kind of snout.
He looks like he's drunk! by aphextwin	Sep 5th, 2006 12:35:07 PM
Yesp too much booz will make your eyes sleepy and your face dumb and indifferent. I 'kinda'like the body work, but as mentioned, how the hell could that transform into a hillbilly longnosetruck with those pimp flames. Let me say this: that is not a face of a strong leader!
For all the rabid fanboys upset that Harry has not by Lando Griffin	Sep 5th, 2006 12:35:21 PM
declared an AICN jihad against your Holy Transformers its because A) Jihad has only been declared against Fox and Ratner to a lesser degreee (although now that X3 has come and gone it lies solely on FOX) and B) Harry actually likes Bays work
Another week, another Transformers TB... by Ricky Henderson	Sep 5th, 2006 12:35:52 PM
Seriously, I can't take any more disappointment. I'm not coming to AICN unless they stop posting Miachel Bay propaganda. Stop trying to convince us that this movie has potential. It just doesn't.
Lando Duchin by Aintitshot	Sep 5th, 2006 12:36:45 PM
NO- Tom Desanto owns this site I ahve told you before
Prime Looks Badass by Atomica	Sep 5th, 2006 12:37:36 PM
How freakin' cool. I cannot wait until next summer. 20 Years of hoping for a Live Action Transformers Movie are about to come tro fruition. Screw the Naysayers, this Prime kicks ass.
his eyes are too low by The_Boo	Sep 5th, 2006 12:38:02 PM
seriously, that's creepy. I could do without the flames, but can deal. Those eyes on the other hand are fugly
is that a nose and a mouth? by robosushi	Sep 5th, 2006 12:40:04 PM
or am I just looking at the picture a bit weird. yeah, I havent been the one to complain about any of this, Im a huge transformer fan, but I understand changes... but he kind of looks like he has down syndrome
Merrick--the toys will be much simpler by Ricky Henderson	Sep 5th, 2006 12:40:21 PM
The whole toyline won't have that kind of articulation. They'll just be more squarelike and easier to transform. Not that I care much since I'm skipping this whole disaster altogether.
Hey Optimus, why the long face? by Horseflesh	Sep 5th, 2006 12:42:26 PM
HAAA! Jumped the Sharkticon!
Ricky - skipping this disaster... by blackwood	Sep 5th, 2006 12:42:37 PM
...and yet, you're still in every talkback.
Horseflesh by blackwood	Sep 5th, 2006 12:43:19 PM
HA! You shined that ol' penny up nice.
he has the face of a Beagle by chickychow	Sep 5th, 2006 12:44:15 PM
I just want Optimus to curl up beside me on the porch so I can pat his head.
He looks amazing!!! by Orionsangels	Sep 5th, 2006 12:45:02 PM

It's on likely Donkey Kong in the Vern vs CHAOS talkbak by muscelyarm	Sep 5th, 2006 12:45:38 PM
Vern vs the CHAOS DVD is the greatest talkback of all time.
he looks like a pissed off goat.. by torpor_haze	Sep 5th, 2006 12:45:45 PM

His name should be Optimus Vin Diesel... by solartaco3	Sep 5th, 2006 12:46:05 PM

he looks like he plays in a band by behind blue eyes	Sep 5th, 2006 12:46:47 PM
I wish I looked like I played in a band...
Im going to be there opening weekend... by tile_mcgillus	Sep 5th, 2006 12:46:48 PM
I won't pay to see it, I will do the pay for anything else and walk into transformers. Just to Hear Cullen's voice come out of the closest thing we ever get to Prime. Its so close to awesome...just get rid of the goddamn flames!
his eyes by Bouncy X	Sep 5th, 2006 12:46:50 PM
his eyes sorta look like the eye from the poster...so maybe people were right in saying that was prime after all
Too Fast, Tooransformers! by Horseflesh	Sep 5th, 2006 12:47:35 PM
Tokyo Rift!
Ever seen Hollow Man... by pandamaster83	Sep 5th, 2006 12:47:59 PM
when Kevin Bacon is only half-invisible and you see him without any skin? This is what he reminds me of. He needs covering up.
It becomes harder for me... by JThomasC	Sep 5th, 2006 12:48:13 PM
to cling so desperately to my childhood in a pathetic fashion as it continues to be @$$ raped. I may have to grow up now. This is seriously gonna mess up my mid life crisis, instead of trips to Toys R Us thinly veiled as outings for me and my son, instead I'll most likely have to buy some lame ass convertible sports car I can't afford and have affairs with barely legal women. Man this sucks.
Limp Bizkit soul patches are very popular on Cybertron by Bryan	Sep 5th, 2006 12:48:18 PM
I don't think it's actually a matter of faithfulness, it's a matter of bad design. These things just look stupid. I am not very attached to Transformers and might go along with the "so what if it's not Transformers, these are cool robots!" argument if they were, in fact, cool robots. But come on, man. Every design they've released has been ugly as shit, way too busy and lacking in personality. I'm sure these designers are all talented, but they're being sent in the wrong direction. Look at all of the cumbersome, unneccessary detail on that pile of garbage, and then imagine what a poor judge of design you have to be to THEN decide that it needs fucking flames added to it! Your eye doesn't know where to go on these still images, so imagine how confusing they will be when combined with Michael Bay's editing style! I've always wondered why somebody hasn't done a giant robot movie since the dawning of CGI, but I guess I will have to wait a while longer for an actual good one. (Well, I haven't seen that Gigantor movie yet, maybe that one's good.) That said, the American Godzilla style lack of recognizability compounds the terrible designs quite a bit. These clearer pictures actually make it look worse because from a distance it seemed like the head was recognizable as Optimus but now that you can see the eyes and mouth (!) he seems to have a completely different personality. And I still think the idea that they have to have pupils to emote is both ignorant and an insult to the animators working on the movie.
MEGAS XLR by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 5th, 2006 12:48:56 PM
And I don't get this reference do to the fact that Megas XLR looks like a low-rent TF rip-off to me.
So close to awesome by tile_mcgillus	Sep 5th, 2006 12:52:51 PM
oh I forgot to put fix the chicken feet, goatee, eyes, no armor, too much insides, visual clutter and ,of course, teh flames! Fix all that and bam its prime...wait that's a lot of stuff isn't it?
Blackwood, re: "skipping this disaster" by Ricky Henderson	Sep 5th, 2006 12:53:21 PM
I don't like where this movie is going so I want to express how concerned I am. I don't think that's a contradiction. Please, what else would all the posters on AICN talkbacks do if they didn't have something to bitch about?
AWESOME! by googamooga	Sep 5th, 2006 12:58:13 PM
Haters SUCK IT.
Very smart comment Mr MERRICK by Ashen Shugar	Sep 5th, 2006 12:59:47 PM
Indeed. I can not believe the brains at HASBRO have validated such a complex Optimus. Even if you can expect nice tranformations, no toy can be so complicated, with sharp and small pieces. As the head, it looks so bland, as if OPTIMUS was on laudanum. One question : Did the smart guys with the Citroen commercial ever paid one dime to Hasbro for their very nice rip-off of TRANSFORMERS ?
you're absolutely right, Ricky by moondoggy2u	Sep 5th, 2006 01:00:10 PM
Why, there are even TB'ers who bitch about bitching!!! Hang 'em all, I always say, and let G-d sort them out!
MICHAEL BAY FUCKING LOST. by Truth0ne	Sep 5th, 2006 01:01:33 PM
MICHAEL BAY FUCKING LOST.
I don't understand the headshots by jackinitraw	Sep 5th, 2006 01:02:20 PM
Is that supposed to be how he looks when he talks or something? His mouth opens sideways like a Chinese vagina? I believe the Megatron mouth had a similar sideways Chinese vagina design. The more I see of this the more excited I am to watch Michael Bay follow up a disaster like The Island with a new level of disaster. It makes sense to have his career end in an explosion of sorts.
"I was thinking about putting flames on my house... by tile_mcgillus	Sep 5th, 2006 01:05:09 PM
and my car, and my bike, and the cups I drink out of, and my TV and my pants and I really considering getting flames tattooed on my dick...I just think it sends the right message, I have a hot man rod that is burning for your love Megatron." direct quote from Optimus Prime
No humanity by BV	Sep 5th, 2006 01:06:16 PM
And by that I mean...there's no humanity in that face.
Looks like General Greivous by Aust1n	Sep 5th, 2006 01:06:27 PM

Baytimus Prime kicks Geektrons ass, bitch!!! by German_Geekster	Sep 5th, 2006 01:06:52 PM
But the face looks shitty, liked the earlier design of the head.
jackinitraw ROFL by tile_mcgillus	Sep 5th, 2006 01:06:58 PM
I had no fucking clue that chinese vaginas were ugly and full of shiny robot mouths...thats awesome!
Coming along nicely by Mits777	Sep 5th, 2006 01:07:52 PM
He definitely looks better than i thought he was gonna look but i still have this feeling this is gonna suck hard. Time to shill as some of yall say. Check out this awesome review site. http:tinyurl.com/pv8do
Five To Eleven More Things... by SnakesOnABicycle	Sep 5th, 2006 01:08:21 PM
Just wanted to post the in another place to make sure it got seen, cause I think we're misplacing some of our anger on this. -- We can spot a plant. Yes it's true. From their generic screen names (yea, mine's no better), to their correctly punctuated, or overly mispelled drivel, to their constant arguments, or decrees of giving it a chance till you see it, or their general calling out, and daring you to like it strageties, we are usually able to see through their muck of shit. If anything, thinking that a studio is pathetic enough to send us an Aintitshot, or moto, only pisses and turns us off to the movie even more, for A) thinking they can outsmart us, and B) being pathetic enough to stoop low enough to admit what a piece of shit it really is by needing plants for it in the first place. -- The person whom I think we should be pissed off at the most however, is not the two obvious sacks of shit, Bay and Murphy, but Speilberg. He has 20 times the clout of these jokers, and if he wanted something, or cared enough about this property, he would have had these crapola designs, and script changed long, long ago. But he doesn't. He's almost as corrupt as these two douche bags, he just happens to have talent, albeit dwindling talent.
See you on opening day, SnakesOnABicycle! by googamooga	Sep 5th, 2006 01:10:09 PM
Signed, NOT A PLANT
Prime feels like prime by Cory849	Sep 5th, 2006 01:10:57 PM
I know prime doesnt look like G1 Optimus Prime but I cant help but feel that when I look at this design and know that the original voice actor will be used, that this design certainly feels like Optimus Prime. I think they caught his essence very very well. Having read the script, I still think its way too much about the humans, the plot is capture the flag and is basically crap, and all in all it is a pretty cheesy basic hollywood braindead summer pic but my problem really isnt with the designs. Well except for megatron. but that goes without saying. Incidentally, megatron looks awesome. He just doesnt look like megatron. Still though - awesome looking scary bad guy robot design.
Concept Art by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 5th, 2006 01:11:57 PM
I think if you compare this image with the image from the convention poster (w/ gun), you'll find that this is a concept rendering. There are subtle differences between the two - primarily the head, eyes, and feet. The poster image looks sleeker and less clunky. More importantly, it hints at a much better designed face/head with possibly glowing, yellow eyes. I'm gonna go on record and say that the poster image is much closer to the finished product we will see in the film. Most of you catz probably won't care though...
Why can't they have regular, moving mouths like by Jak0lantern01	Sep 5th, 2006 01:13:42 PM
every single incarnation that came before? If we can get nano-whatevers allowing them to morph at will, why can't this same concept apply to moving mouths? Plotholes galore with this one. Oh, and actors that are given full, free reign in their acting. How about that cute chick they hired as the 'love interest' that can't act. "Act scared", her shoulders go up. "No, really, act SCARED", shoulders go up higher, perhaps a hint of shudder. Geeze, she better get naked in this movie, for it sounds like that's all her part is worth. Episode 1 style acting. They must have all gone to the same school.
Transformers will suck ass. by brycemonkey	Sep 5th, 2006 01:14:01 PM
You know it will. I was excited until I heard it was Bay directing and I saw the pictures that either look like crap normal cars or cheap plastic toys. Haters unite!
LOOKS GREAT!! by shakermakerman	Sep 5th, 2006 01:15:04 PM
So stop whining..
RE: moto by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 5th, 2006 01:16:09 PM
If memory serves me, I think that guy has been on AICN for a long time. Doesn't necessarily disprove the idea that he may be a longserving corporate agent though...
The toy will Fail, just like Beast Machines by Squashua	Sep 5th, 2006 01:16:11 PM
Back in the day they did Beast Machines. And somehow they designed these characters for the show and didn't consult the toy manufacturer. So absolutely NONE of the toys looked anything like the show characters, and the show characters transformed in such a fashion that it would have been near impossible to create toys. At some point they finally did make near-show-accurate toys, but ended up being way-too-little, way-too-late.
looks too busy by reckni	Sep 5th, 2006 01:16:12 PM
but what the Hell do I know?
Looks awesome! by One Voice	Sep 5th, 2006 01:17:09 PM

also, is this the official site for bay's transformers? by reckni	Sep 5th, 2006 01:17:24 PM

Mr. Nice Gaius by tile_mcgillus	Sep 5th, 2006 01:18:05 PM
I think you might be right. That blurry ass pic honestly did have more weight and character than this. I went into that pic and took out the flames and thought it looked pretty good. Here is the pic. http://tinyurl.com/gsuju
shakermakerman by SnakesOnABicycle	Sep 5th, 2006 01:19:15 PM
is obviously getting tired of signing on and off his different screen names, having to put his password in each time, remember which one goes with moto, or Aintitshot, all while having to bring Bay his coffee and coke. Cokeheads!
Well, I knew there was a problem by Jak0lantern01	Sep 5th, 2006 01:20:18 PM
when Spielberg was indicating wanting to go back to the feel of the Back to the Future movies. Not that I don't like BTTF, love it, but TF is not BTTF. It's war, and a fairly brutal, unrelenting war at that. Both sides decimated and a world ravaged (Cybertron). But it's going to be lighthearted family fare. OK. How about casting Nickelodeon's 14 year old cast in the sequel to Private Ryan, and call it a family film. I'm not saying that I'm expecting a bloody or excessively violent TF film, it's just not BTTF. By the way, my first car did nothing but break down, not the greatest experience.
Boo hoo fucking hoo by deadlegend	Sep 5th, 2006 01:20:59 PM
Prime looks about as badass as he can get. Start throwing all his original armor on, and he'll like like a fucking live-action toy. These designs are badass. BADASS I TELL YOU! When the Power Rangers movie was made, they changed their costumes and changed the look of the megazords. And if any of you bitches think Transformers were at any time more popular than the Power Rangers, then you're out of your fucking element. Power Rangers was twice the show Transformers was, and is still on the air. If they could improve by changing the look of the PRs, then the same will work for a live-action TFs. PERIOD BITCHES.
Looks very cool, BUT... by ZombiKiller86	Sep 5th, 2006 01:21:29 PM
how the hell are they gonna make a toy that can transform into THAT? There's a shit load of detail there, and I'm not sure if it's entirely possible.
How long before some photoshop geek recolors the pic? by IMMORTAL-1	Sep 5th, 2006 01:22:14 PM
You know it's coming.
Tile by Jak0lantern01	Sep 5th, 2006 01:24:21 PM
that recolored Prime looks much better, no question. KISS = Keep It Simple Stupid.
tile_mcgillus by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 5th, 2006 01:25:50 PM
Nice job. Although the flames don't really bother me, I don't buy the "ribs" excuse. I'd rather they just say that when they went with the Peterbilt/semi design, the solid red & blue looked too plain. No. Instead we get "ribs". Wha? *** Thanks for taking a closer look at the poster image, too.
How come... by Cory849	Sep 5th, 2006 01:27:16 PM
How come star trek is allowed to indiscriminately change the uniforms anytime they want? I never hear anyone bitch about that.... Oh, more importantly - I have to agree that optimus looks much better without the flames based on this rendering that tile_McGillus else already linked above. http://tinyurl.com/gsuju
Also googamooga by SnakesOnABicycle	Sep 5th, 2006 01:27:50 PM
you reverse psychology has confused me, so I guess I will see you on opening day. I'll be pulling up in my new SUV, the one with flames on the side. And Megatron's mouth is starting to make me horny. And Shaia's "stappler's will burn your face off" comments have given me something to think about. Like, I wonder how many slaves the Bay family has owned, and am I a piece of shit... cause he probably is right. Where am I?
Full Disclosure Time by repus3000	Sep 5th, 2006 01:30:22 PM

Bad ass! by DeCypher44	Sep 5th, 2006 01:32:38 PM
I never had an issue with OP's design. This looks really good. The script blows ass, but I like this look.
repus, good points by SnakesOnABicycle	Sep 5th, 2006 01:35:47 PM
and the whole "site maitenence/updating" thing, that really resulted in NO new features, but a mysterious loss of the "Hi I'm Megatron" talk back, that was obvious a giant gleaming pile of shit that the studio had to whiff, and know that lots of people were seeing and agreeing how bad this movie looks.
Prime Looks Awesome! Can't wait to see him in Action by ganymede2010	Sep 5th, 2006 01:38:07 PM
You fucking whinners.
Uh, SnakesOnABicycle... by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 5th, 2006 01:38:26 PM
Look over to your right. The Megatron TB is still in full swing.
...and another thing... by repus3000	Sep 5th, 2006 01:38:27 PM

Not badass! by KnightJustice	Sep 5th, 2006 01:38:37 PM
Michael Bay keeps raping this franchise. I'm a G1 guy and this thing just looks nothing like the Optimus we know and love.
that megatron tb is back now by tile_mcgillus	Sep 5th, 2006 01:39:30 PM
I thought the same thing at first.
repeat this over and over again... by Flux_brown	Sep 5th, 2006 01:40:01 PM
TINO TINO TINO....
repus3000 by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 5th, 2006 01:42:18 PM
Just two things: Hasbro owns the rights to the franchise. Their goal is to make more money off of new toys. If they want to redesign classic characters from 20 years ago because they want to hook a whole new generation on their product, who are we to argue? (The end result may just be that they lose their fans from 20+ years ago.) Second: Godzilla didn't bomb because of the design, it bombed because it was STUPID.
mr, nice by SnakesOnABicycle	Sep 5th, 2006 01:42:37 PM
I had checked a few times the last few days and the Megatron talkback was completely empty. There goes my grassy knoll theory. At least shits like ganymede can keep me paranoid. Mmm paranoid.
SnakesOnABicycle by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 5th, 2006 01:49:23 PM
I can understand that. No doubt the TB was "empty" because it had essentially run out of steam (despite that fact that it resurfaced today).
Face it, NOTHING would please you fuckers by performingmonkey	Sep 5th, 2006 01:50:58 PM
I'm not saying it's an excellent design, but even if it was the coolest design ever you would still go out of your way to comment on it's shitness, how Bay is raping your 10-year-old ass harder than Lucas, well fuck you all.
We could already tell it was bad design ... by veritasses	Sep 5th, 2006 01:53:15 PM
when it was small. Making it big doesn't change anyone's opinion.
Where the hell does he store the matrix of leadership?? by DarthMartel	Sep 5th, 2006 01:54:20 PM
Nimrods didn't think of that. Apparently they failed to read up on their Transformers lore.
I'm glad you fucktards hate the designs by ganymede2010	Sep 5th, 2006 01:55:02 PM
Less stupid ass people to wait in line behind. Go and play with your Spiderman toys tranfanboi's!
Wow, the new Transformers pic of the day. by The Heathen	Sep 5th, 2006 01:55:18 PM
I'm already sick of it and I've got about 10 more months of this stuff. Yay. That said, I hope the movie is fun and ra ra, but after hearing how the bots would be kept 'secret' for the fans to freak out over more, well, there's been pics every day. Bah.
WOW That looks FUCKING TERRIBLE!!! by jabberwookie	Sep 5th, 2006 01:55:23 PM
I just get angrier and angrier every time I see this kind of shit. It looks like Optimus is on his way to a ho down for some moonshine, and line dancing. If i ever come across micheal bay in real life I will throw hot coffee in his fucking face.
and Optimus looks like a monkey... by veritasses	Sep 5th, 2006 01:55:29 PM
or gorilla.
by LV	Sep 5th, 2006 01:55:52 PM
That isnt his real head. look at the recent rendering from that poster with prime and his big silver gun. the head is different compared with these pics, which frankly look retarded. that head shot that leaked just after that early rendering of his arm was MILES better , even tho the eyes were blanked out but from that and the recent leaks i can tell this head and that one are not the same. so don't fret people, he ain't gonna look like a retardicon(i luv adult swim:)) flames are still in for the long haul. o yeah, and these pics also relate to that other leak were the truck has a "scoop" above the grill....thsi shit is old man, leaks are so bad when they release the wrong shit and confuse everyone and make them bitch.
all your transformers pics here: by all your base	Sep 5th, 2006 01:58:45 PM
all the leaked pics so far including prime, megatron, starscream, ratchet, jazz, bumblebee, scorpinok, and blackout. http://tinyurl.com/ge7ly
Well, as badly as Bay & Co. keep... by Childe Roland	Sep 5th, 2006 02:00:34 PM
...fucking up the pre-release buzz generation with all their justification and excuse-making, I'm still pretty satisfied with this Prime design. This with Cullen's voice will be enough to get me to rent this. A well cut trailer might push me into matinee territory. If they change that Megatron design and get Welker to voice him, I may well pay full price...just to see if it turns out to be any good.
oh stfu Ganymede... by Ricky Henderson	Sep 5th, 2006 02:01:14 PM
That Regina woman got banned from AICN, and with the way you've been posting, you'll be next very soon. Stop trolling in TF talkbacks, we're sick of your nonsense.
Its in the eyes by BRUTICUS	Sep 5th, 2006 02:01:24 PM
Uhh ever heard of IT'S IN THE EYES? That is NOT Optimus' face!! What is the problem??? That is not his stance either. Go back and watch the cartoons PLEASE.
....wha? People don't like it? by MemBirdman	Sep 5th, 2006 02:03:03 PM
I think the potential is great! C'mon, fanboys...remember how Optimus was first created. Transcom 1 scanned machines and repaired the Autobots in their likenesses. And considering that the ship crashed in some desert supposedly in the US (likely New Mexico/Arizona area), how unrealistic is Transcom 1 to scan a semi with that paint job?! It's pretty realistic and I'm waiting to see how it all comes together.
I ain't no pussy Thenedain!!! by Hairy Nutsack	Sep 5th, 2006 02:03:54 PM
800 frames of new video rendering now as we speak. I'll spend the rest of today adding music and sound effects. Should have it up on YouTube late today, early tomorrow. Shameless Plug In the meantime everyone go see my original - http://youtube.com/watch?v=WRA cwQagxhU
lasting impressions by repus3000	Sep 5th, 2006 02:04:34 PM
Never said that Godzilla bombed out because of the design alone
just when I thought it couldnt get worse than Flames... by jabberwookie	Sep 5th, 2006 02:05:05 PM
THEY FUCKED WITH HIS FUCKING EYES!!!! HOW HARD IS IT TO GIVE OPTIMUS FUCKING SLITS FOR HIS EYES AND BLUEISH GLOW EMMINATING FROM THEM? THERE IS NO FUCKING EXCUSE FOR THAT!! NO FUCKING EXCUSE AT ALL!!! YOU SAY... 'WE WANT IT TO LOOK MORE REALISTIC, GIVE HIM DEFINITION OF RIBS WITH THE FLAMES, WE SAY HE NEEDS TO LOOK REALISTIC WHEN HE TRANSFORMS SO CHANGE THE VEHICLE SLIGHTLY...AND THE EYES WE JUST WANT TO GIVE A BIG MIDDLE FINGER TO THE FANS" THE FLAMES ARE FUCKIN RIDICULOUS, BUT I CAN TOTALLY DIG CHANGING THE TRUCK FOR REALISM... THE KEY IS REALISM.. HOW THE FUCK DOES GIVING OPTIMUS HUMAN LOOKING EYES FIT INTO REALISM??? HE'S A FUCKING ROBOT!!! A FUCKING GOD DAMN FUCKING ROBOT... WHAT DO MOST ROBOT'S EYES LOOK LIKE??? FUCKING SLITS WITH LIGHT EMINATING FROM THEM... NOT HEIROGLYPHICS!! YOU FUCKING IDIOTS FUCK YOU MICHEAL BAY FUCK YOU IN YOUR FUCKING ASS!!
What Makes No Real Sense... by SnakesOnABicycle	Sep 5th, 2006 02:05:50 PM
is why there's so much plant activity here. The movie is almost a year away from release. Any positive or negative momentum will be lost well before then. Since they don't give a shit about the old fans, why try to convince them? The dollar, of course would be the most obvious reason, but it seems like they don't understand that they're doing more harm than good defending it. See: everything Don Murphy has done. Someone mentioned earlier the film had a lot more going for it when no one knew anything. I know most of this back and forth came from supposedly leaked pics of a shitty looking Bumblebee, but at the same time I think no response, would have been a better response from these no-talent hack flacks. Sure we can all expect a glowing "great but flawed, had fun with it anyway!" review from Harry, but even the studios should know most regular AICN-ers take his opinion with a grain of salt anyway. So I can understand Harry's non-stance on the film. What I can't, is every other writer, especially Moriarty, and Mass. Wasn't that guy brought in by Harry to be the bad guy, aka honest one? To Harry, and the rest, the people who you're not giving the time of day to; Transformers fans (most AICN regulars), are still the people most likely to frequent this site, long after this turd is flushed in the Summer of 2007. We already hate Bay, and his dingle berry infested patch of ass hair, otherwise known as Don Murphy. Why make us hate you too? We're the ones that go to your amazon.com links after all.
Ricky Henderson by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 5th, 2006 02:08:59 PM
Ha! I think it will take a lot more than that to get ol' gany banned.
WOW by adonais	Sep 5th, 2006 02:13:03 PM
Retarded. I can't think of any other word for this design but utterly retarded.
It Stinks! by Xeniten	Sep 5th, 2006 02:14:52 PM
Ugh.
Hey I can dream, MNG... by Ricky Henderson	Sep 5th, 2006 02:16:14 PM
I was just happy to see that awful Regina person get banned for being incredibly offensive in the Steve Irwin talkback. How long has Ganymede been here for? It feels like she's a recent addition (ie, plant)... But then again, I've only been posting since the spring, so perhaps I'm misstaken.
STFU Ricky We no how you feel by ganymede2010	Sep 5th, 2006 02:16:33 PM
We know you hate Prime. We know you hate Bay, we know you hate Megs, we know you hate Starscream. Why in the fuck are you still here? Get the fuck out If you hate the movie this bad. We're tired of hearing your infinite whinning little boy.
WELL by THE KNIGHT	Sep 5th, 2006 02:18:00 PM
BATMAN'S NIPPLES EQUALS FLAMES ON OTIMPUSS!!
i cant stand his eyes by Flux_brown	Sep 5th, 2006 02:18:44 PM
they look like they belong on a fuckin' totem pole...
So you've given us a clearer image of a turd. by Frankenblogger	Sep 5th, 2006 02:19:59 PM
And what I'm starting to get really annoyed about is the whole "eh. I don't really like it but I'll still go see the movie" comments. Show these fuckers in Hollywood that you mean business and DON'T SPEND YOUR MONEY ON THIS SHIT. DON'T BUY THE DVD OR RENT IT. We're DONE with this movie.
gaymanede by SnakesOnABicycle	Sep 5th, 2006 02:20:02 PM
I'm not tired of hearing from Ricky. Hell, I'm not even tired of hearing from you (for a different reason), being that people/boggers like you feed the flame of what these talkbacks are for. Fighting. Without your bad taste, and unoriginal, studio apologizing, drivel, we wouldn't have anyone to make fun of execpt folks like Don Murphy, and how they talk like Donald Duck. On coke.
Since this movie is Drivel why waste your time on it? by ganymede2010	Sep 5th, 2006 02:24:10 PM
I mean it's not the movie you want, why post hundreds of messages about it? Boycott the movie. Don't post about it, don't go see, and don't support it in any way. It works for me when I don't like a movie.
Flames on Optimus is like flames on by brokebackcowboy	Sep 5th, 2006 02:24:40 PM
Any motor vehicle. Stupid. Stickers don't make them go faster! Is Optimus a hybrid vehicle and does it have low emissions? Hello.
Yikes, you're an awful human being Ganymede by Ricky Henderson	Sep 5th, 2006 02:25:14 PM
Seriously, screaming at people to shut up when they have an opinion that is contrary to your own really isn't very mature. And you're completely wrong I dont hate Prime, as you suggested. I just have issues with the Michael Bay version of Prime. Big different smarty-pants. I don't hate the movie, I just think it is sad what has happened to it because there was really great potential there. All the designs look pretty impressive really. The only problem is they're not transformers. Don't accuse me of hating anything--the only one here on the TB who is full of hate is you Ganymede. Begone. Man you're a shrill girl.
YackBacker by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 5th, 2006 02:25:33 PM
I'm not entirely sure of TBer "manipulation" but something does feel amiss. AICN has been getting these "leaks" well in advance of the sites that are devoted ONLY to everything Transformers. I now believe they have contacts within the production who are either taking chances with material or they are being instructed to strategically reveal materials to gauge a response. The primary clue for this is in the Megatron design. AICN displayed the images provided by "Etienne" - a source known to Merrick. Then "Etienne" requested that the images be removed...NOT the studio. Why the studio has requested that some images be removed (i.e. the first images of Prime's truckform, the Bumblebee model, etc.) and not others remains a mystery. Now, we've got this new rendering of Prime right on the heels of the convention poster image. It appears to have the same shading and texturing as the Megatron images. Someone is definitely giving AICN the dish and the Haters are eating it up.
"Hey I can dream, MNG..." by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 5th, 2006 02:27:03 PM
Apparently, so can ganymede2010! ;-)
As long as we're all piling our 2 cents onto this shit by finky089	Sep 5th, 2006 02:27:33 PM
Might as well go with the old stanby, cuz I'm just too tired to bother rehashing how this movie has become the epitome of "FUCKED UP."
gaymenede - It also works for me... by SnakesOnABicycle	Sep 5th, 2006 02:27:48 PM
to not do what shitstains like yourself say or "suggest". Don't you have more fun on the Rush Limbaugh message boards? You seem to like agreeing, and are easily upset by dissenting opinions... wouldn't you be more comfortable just letting Fox News entertain you... and Walmart clothe you?
Transformers In Name Only! by finky089	Sep 5th, 2006 02:28:32 PM
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what the script has right(spoiler alert) by Staldo	Sep 5th, 2006 02:30:51 PM
Seriously, have any real fans of the show read the script? Yes, the first 45 pages read like some lost 70's Knight Rider spinoff (or this Kroft show I haven't seen)but the script begins and ENDS with the most in-character ,epic Optimus Prime proselytizing I've read since the original comic. Anybody who has ever read a single TF comic, or seen a single episode of the series, knows Optimus basically spoke as if he was the giant robot version of Gandalf, and he is pitch perfect. Megatron's characterization is quite a bit more evil than the series, if that were possible. In the script, he is essentially the transformers' version of Sauron, an intense, looming threat who can essentially tear all that is good out of his fellow beings and pervert it to the blackest evil. Sounds good to me, the kind of villain that Michael Bay would identify with. If you followed the old series or comics at all, you would realize that the plot quickly snowballed from a few robots fighting on Earth to a galactic-scale epic, and the script essentially sets that up with the last lines. The script writers' knowledge of Cybertronian geography is pretty incredible as well. THE TORUS STATES OF PRAXUS are referenced for christ sakes. ] Please tell me there are other people who read the script and saw glimmers of hope in it. I know will be there opening day with popcorn and smuggled-in Goodbar bites just to see what was done with the cool ideas that have been scattered amongst the crap, (similar to my attitude about the Star Wars prequels), and hope to god that Shia LeBouf wasn't given too much creative control.(see his interview)
Yeah MNG, they're testing the waters with these pics by Ricky Henderson	Sep 5th, 2006 02:32:51 PM
Because how hard is it to change a CG character's design? This is the third different version of Prime we've seen and there are some subtle differences between all three (color schemes, level of detail, articulation, etc). So who's to say the people at Paramount/Dreamworks aren't leaking these pics to AICN and other sites on purpose to gague fan reaction? They know perfectly well these designs can be changed and maybe they will based on fan response. That would eliminate the need for people like Ganymede to promote the film all day long on AICN...
Bay was clearly full of it with the "ribs" justificatio by IndustryKiller	Sep 5th, 2006 02:33:13 PM
Because those flames don't represent ribs. He should just admit he thought it would be cool to go the EXTREME!!! route with Optimus. Well he was wrong, it looks ridiculous, so change it. It's not too late. don't be an arrogant prick just change the fucking paint. Do they have any concept of how much good will they would build up with that simple act?
by Flux_brown	Sep 5th, 2006 02:34:56 PM
but then they'll probably see people like ganymede's reaction and consider it positive feedback, an excuse to go ahead with their dastardly plans....
flame war city by tile_mcgillus	Sep 5th, 2006 02:35:52 PM
Just stop guys. Agree to disagree. Gaynemede and Snakes both of you have made your opinions very clear, just as I have. The reason we are still here is that we like talking about movies and all have enjoyed Transformers in the past. I loved Little Miss Sunshine but you don't see me posting hundred posts on its Tb about how sweet it is. The only person who shouldnt be here is me, because I getting paid a lot of money to make a graphic standards manual and am critiquing a movie a year away instead (alright Im almost done and just pacing myself on the GSM). Anyway, what if those eyes light up? Could they not look like egyptian shit?
Shut the fuck up, hating bitches by deadlegend	Sep 5th, 2006 02:36:33 PM
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Ricky by SnakesOnABicycle	Sep 5th, 2006 02:36:45 PM
I agree that this seems like what the studio's trying to do, but it's the way the do it that pisses most people off, and inturn gives them the shittest response. I mean, imagine it, if a head of the studio was OPENLY sent these in, without leaking, and OPENLY asked the fans for their opinions. Not only would it give the impression that they CARED what we thought, but would give them a clearer idea of what we thought, instead of this muddled/paranoid (however rightfully so) response that they're getting now. They can't handle, or even have a concept of honesty. That's why. Oh, I just answered my own question.
He looks like he was designed by West Coast Choppers by rev_skarekroe	Sep 5th, 2006 02:37:45 PM
Or he was contestant on Pimp My Bot or something.
ass by Staldo	Sep 5th, 2006 02:40:45 PM
Knight rider was an 80's series. I'm stupid. Also Chitty-Chitty Bang Bang was the original Transformer. Search your feelings, you know it to be true.
Hey, Ricky Henderson... by googamooga	Sep 5th, 2006 02:41:30 PM
You criticize gany for telling people with negative opinions to stfu, but then in a previous post, you tell him you hope he gets banned. Why? Because he's looking forward to the movie and you're not? What a great human being YOU are.
If Optimus Prime is a pimp than Bumblebee is his hoe by tile_mcgillus	Sep 5th, 2006 02:42:11 PM
It is interesting that we are receving sooooooooo much stuff over a year in advance, i mean they havent even done the digital work yet. Their still shooting for christ's sakes...so there is hope. I really though how much hatred would we have to spew in order to get them to change. Remember CAtwoman......no one liked it and they didn't change it.
Tile by SnakesOnABicycle	Sep 5th, 2006 02:45:26 PM
What I do, and what gaymenede does, are two very different things. I try to EXPRESS my opinion (and I'll do it as much as I want, thanks) and gaymenede tries to SUPPRESS everyone else's, albeit in the most unconvincing "Shut the fuck up, haters!" kind of way. And I hope it doesn't stop, and I hope more people aren't as SEEMINGLY level headed as you, cause it makes for bad entertainment. And let's face it, that's what we're here for.
"Who the fuck is this Autobot?" by photoboy	Sep 5th, 2006 02:45:40 PM
Quote stolen from: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =bq1_6D9QS9Y Bay's Optimus Prime is a total traversty. It's unbelievable how completely shit they've made this film.
tile_mcgillus by Flux_brown	Sep 5th, 2006 02:45:53 PM
and oddly enough, up till a month ago, this project was top secret! does anybody remember bay saying nobody'll get to see the robots untill opening day? WTF happened??!
besides the flames by The Only Woj	Sep 5th, 2006 02:46:09 PM
I can definitely live with this. he was too thin in those concept drawings, these seems to have bulked him up. I like it. I'd like it more without the flames, but I like it.
Which dead legend... by Hairy Nutsack	Sep 5th, 2006 02:50:07 PM
Which dead legend is deadlegend anyway? I'm going to go with Liberace, with Freddy Mercury vying for second place. Other possibilities - Rock Hudson and Rip Taylor.
Yep I'm an Awful Human Being! by ganymede2010	Sep 5th, 2006 02:55:24 PM
I love this movie. Go Michael Bay! Your track record speaks for itself. Megatron is awesome so is Prime and I LOVE that Jazz is a solistice. Muhahahahahaha
Snakesonatransformer by tile_mcgillus	Sep 5th, 2006 02:55:36 PM
I am level-headed but I recognize suck when I see it. I posted this in the Megatron TB several days ago: "This movie is evidence of the epidemic of apathy and complacency that is acrossed the nation. The filmmakers are suspecting that the average uninformed viewer will love this movie. I mean this formulaic script mimics some of the most successful movies of the past decade. THey will use the excuse that people just want to be entertained. THat is an excuse. It is the simple fact that they are appealing to the lowest common denominator. THink about it. Art and politics have always, through the entire span of history, only been accessable to the educated or higher class. Up until now art has always appealed to the highest intellect and portion of society. Until the last century when consumerism actually became profitable did this shift. We are in anew situation. TO me this is why art galleries are viewed as aristocratic and pompous, because they refuse to lower their art to the lowest common denominator. They ask their audience to think, something that is resented in this society. To me this is traced back to our constantly diminishing education standards. As the popolous becomes less and less informed (but with more tools then ever to be informed) society continues to lower its standards. THe average layman is now the target of our media formats. This is due to the fact that the largest segment of our populous is the lower and lower middle class, in areas where education is the worst. Our society is shifting to focus its efforts on these people. This shift is causing our culture to be dumbed down. So the filmmakers are focusing on these people instead of making quality product, they will make product that they believe will sell. I hold no illusions that cinema isnt about money but true artists of cinema have forgone this systemic problem by making unfiltered films. THere is a saying that no one has ever gone hungry underestimating the intelligence of the american public. I resent this. I resent that we are constantly underestimated and demeaned in our culture by the people in power (politics, media etc). This movei is a prime example of this problem. Instead of asking their audience to open their minds and elevate themselves, the director/producers/financeers are dumbing down this film to make money. It is the plain old 3 day cash dash. Something I have come to resent. If you make something that is phenomenal...it will find its audience. In no way do I think less of the any average human being, just the people in control who stereotype them (i referenced this earlier). Anyway, Michael Bay can suck my dick."
To Flux_brown by Frankenblogger	Sep 5th, 2006 02:56:14 PM
LEAKED pictures and script happened and then the shitstorm from fans.
Dead Legend is really Don Simpson's ghost. by Ricky Henderson	Sep 5th, 2006 02:58:15 PM
I'm not even sure if that's witty or clever, but screw it, its late in the afternoon and I'm posting it anyway. And Googamooga, you're right, my first post to Ganymede was a little out of line. What can I say? Plants like her drive me nuts...
Flux by tile_mcgillus	Sep 5th, 2006 02:59:51 PM
That just rings of WTF? We have basically seen all the transformers, read the script and passed judgment and these MFers are still filming. This is weird city 5000. Either A> they care and are going to change. B> there are just serious leaks destroying the whole "keep it secret, keep it safe" or C> they want us to burn out early so when it does come out we are bitching up storm. Think Snakes on a Plane but in reverse. We hate on it so much people are afraid to go see it. So if we bitch ourselves out now a year from now we wont care anymore.
Re: Bay's track record? by Frankenblogger	Sep 5th, 2006 03:00:46 PM
Hello?!? Pearl Harbor? Bad Boys II? The Island? You call this a good track record? His last three films SUCKED. In fact, I'd go so far as tto say the only GOOD movie he's done is The Rock. And even then I may be pushing it simply because of the hilarious fucking outtakes of Ed Harris from the Criterion DVD.
Everyone: Ricky, tile, Snakes, et al by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 5th, 2006 03:00:57 PM
For me, I think it's gonna come down to this = the first real trailer. During the Cullen announcement at Comic-Con, they stated that fully rendered robots would not even be available to the production itself until January/February. Now, they seem to be shooting for the first real trailer set premier sometime during the Holidays (presumably in November). With all the hubbub surrounding the alleged script, the leaked images, the Don Murphy fiasco, and so on...it's going to come down to what they can show us in the trailer that is going to make-or-break this movie. I'm still willing to wait. But after all the craziness surrounding this flick, they REALLY need to hit a homerun with that first bit of finalized footage.
hey...bad boys 2 was pretty cool! by Flux_brown	Sep 5th, 2006 03:03:38 PM

Yep the Island was great, so was Bad Boys 2 by ganymede2010	Sep 5th, 2006 03:04:49 PM
So you were saying?
You people are taking this FAR too seriously by Acappellaman	Sep 5th, 2006 03:06:37 PM
For crying out oud, you whiners, this isn't even a screen capture! It's a friggin rendering of a robot. Come on! Give them a little leeway, will ya? You guys are worse than the whiners that b!tched about Spider-Man's organic webbing. Chill out!
MNG and the trailer of hope by tile_mcgillus	Sep 5th, 2006 03:07:41 PM
I will need to see in this trailer for it to work: vast differences from the script, gorgeous transformers in ferocious battle, oh and no flames on prime unless he really is on fire.
Danny McCoy should just be Hawk from GI JOE in TF by IMMORTAL-1	Sep 5th, 2006 03:08:43 PM
With so many of the main characters being army guys they should have just gone all the way and then characters from GI Joe. Tyrese could be Snake Eyes...
Tile by SnakesOnABicycle	Sep 5th, 2006 03:10:13 PM
You win the presidency!... with that little novella of a speech. However, you're wrong. Here's where. The more things change, the more they stay the same, blah blah blah, but it's fucking right. Maybe you've heard of Shakespeare? Well, his plays were originally intended to be consumed by the masses. And they were. Art has always been available, even now that it takes only the click of a mouse to be able to view any piece in virtually any museum, it has only highlighted the fact that the masses aren't interested... unless there's blood, and violence. Something that was prevelant in Shakespeare's plays. Some people call those things art too. Anyway, other than being boring (while making some nice points too) I don't really know what of what I said you were responding to. The levelheaded comment? Get real. Look at where you are. A site run by a guy who wanted to spunk on himself after Blade 2. The real reason Bay gets to keep making movies is that he taps into whitetrash culture. He did it really well with Armageddon, but then has gotten lazy with each subsquent film. I loved The Rock, and was mildly entertained by the forementioned. I like stupid shit, just as much as I do old jap, french, and german cinema. It's all the same, it just matters how well it's done. If Cameron was making Transformers (which I'm sure after this comes out and sucks, just like the rumored Alien 5 that was to be made by he and Ridley Scott, which we found out about not too long ago after the shitfest that was Resurrection) I'm sure there would be just as many booms, and cliches... only they would be done so much BETTER. I just realized, I'm not even responding to what you said, I just like to hear myself talk. Or type. Who the fuck cares.
Agreed--the trailer is their last shot by Ricky Henderson	Sep 5th, 2006 03:11:17 PM
For fans anyway. We all know 8-10 year olds are going to drag their parents to the movie regaurdless of the buzz surrounding it. I'll say it again: I'm still in the camp that is hoping to see these things in motion and be won over. A trailer filled with generic Michael Bay's generic shock and awe isn't going to impress many people. The need to figure out a way to capture the awe and majesty that is inherent in the liscence.
WTF??? FCK YOU SPEILBERG!!! FCK YOU HASBRO! by R.C. the "Wise"	Sep 5th, 2006 03:14:56 PM
MUTHAF*CK MICHAEL BAY AND DON MURPHY!!!
FUCK EVERYONE AT ILM!!! by R.C. the "Wise"	Sep 5th, 2006 03:17:09 PM
You guys fucked up a sure thing. No wonder James Cameron is teaming with WETA now.
It's no test by adonais	Sep 5th, 2006 03:18:25 PM
I think it's pretty obvious why they are releasing images. Because they know that anybody with taste and anyone who knows Transformers will hate these designs so the more they let them be seen by the public the more we'll get used to seing them. If they were to suddenly release a trailer or the movie itself without warning the fan reaction will be so much worse and intense. It's the same way the music industry oversaturates the airwaves with whatever they call a single these days. How else would they get people to buy Christina Aguilera or Green Day? If you hear a song at Best Buy, then go across the street to Subway and hear the same song, then turn on a commercial and hear the same song eventually you'll hear something catchy in it just because you're so used to hearing it. The same thing with these images, the more you see them, the less strange and offensive they seem.
Evidently ILM has an "A-team" and a "B-team" by Ricky Henderson	Sep 5th, 2006 03:22:10 PM
Remember "Hulk" ? Yeah, pretty hard to believe thats all they could make with that huge budget, but guess what? The big green guy looked awful. Who's to say the same thing won't happen here? I'm not too solf on Weta either, some of their stuff on LOTR just looked like absolute garbage. Hopefully they can kick it up a notch for "Halo." Now there's a movie I'm dying to hear some info about... It would be nice to read happy news for a change. Where's my Halo movie news damnit?
RE: FUCK EVERYONE AT ILM!!! by NuteG	Sep 5th, 2006 03:22:20 PM
I thought Michael Bay was working with Digital Domain on this movie - not ILM.
"capture the awe and majesty" by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 5th, 2006 03:23:32 PM
Well, I don't really think there has been much of that in all the cartoon incarnations. HOWEVER, you want to capture the possible awe and majesty in a live action format? Give us a trailer with a fuckin' hero shot of Optimus Prime that leaves our collective jaws on the floor.
RE: FUCK EVERYONE AT ILM!!! by NuteG	Sep 5th, 2006 03:24:19 PM
...But I've been wrong before. Sorry.
Snakesonamichaelbay by tile_mcgillus	Sep 5th, 2006 03:26:39 PM
You seemed to be insinuating that I had no real opinion about the subject and was meandering through the TFTBs. I just thought you guys sounded like little bitches whiny, again, anyway we are not going to accomplish anything sinking into the call each other names and tell them to leave attitude. As for being wrong about art. I understand your point about Shakespear and agree that it was available to all. The gallery came and threw vegetables while the rich and aristocratic sat in the balcony looking down. You can't tell me that mainstream cinema isnt the complete epitomy of the downing down to make cash scenario. I point to White Chicks, Little Man, XXX, F&F, FF etc etc. It depends on you define well made. Look at all of Michael Bay's films visually their well made. I think the Masterpiece Optimus Prime is well made, some people have called it stupid and ridiculous. I think we are agreeing on virtaully everything just differ on how we would go about it.
SPO!! by Shepard Bauer	Sep 5th, 2006 03:27:09 PM
So who here is a fan of Optimus's Soul Patch? That's the one update I'm starting to like!
"downing down" :dumbing down" by tile_mcgillus	Sep 5th, 2006 03:30:08 PM
okay there were a lot of typing errors in that post. Deal with it.
Do you guys know... by fortheloveofgod	Sep 5th, 2006 03:31:00 PM
That these things are not real pictures........the Transformers will look like the old cartoon ones in the movie. How is that Optimus going to change into a truck? The answer is......it won't.
See! That's why it's fun to argue. by SnakesOnABicycle	Sep 5th, 2006 03:38:22 PM
We see that we both feel similar but in different ways. Then we become friends. Aww. And I wasn't insinuating that you had no real opinion, but the fact that you were asking people to basically grow up on AICN was pointless. I agree that most mainstream shit is shit, but I can also appreicate a well made popcorn movie, and can respect it just as much as I do something made by Kurosawa. Aliens comes to mind. If you want to look at popcorn, or pop culture as art, look no further than Cameron's masterpiece. Iconic, dumb enough for the people in the red states, witty, genuinely touching and dramatic, well shot, and paced, and above all ENTERTAINING. I don't look at shit like White Chicks, Little Man, XXX, or Fantastic Four as films. I look at them as products. The 3 dozen or so twinkies all the studios have to churn out each year to ensure profit. What the industry needs, and this country quite frankly, is a major MAJOR major failure. That dip in the box office last year, when everyone was watching and agonizing over how each week was worse than they year before, was the best thing that could have happened to the film industry, unfortunately this year things have somewhat recovered. What needs to happen is failure on a massive, consistent level, just like it did back in the 60's when all the big studio tentpole movies were bombing... We have them to thank for the 70's and the second golden era of cinema.
Ugh. He looks depressed without the faceplate by DOGSOUP	Sep 5th, 2006 03:38:46 PM
Maybe he's upset at how awful he looks, like going to the prom in a hand me down dress. It's a big robot for sure but it ain't Optimus Prime.
soul patch by Staldo	Sep 5th, 2006 03:39:03 PM
NOW people notice the soul patch? small chin protrusions have been part of transformers designs since 19-fucking-84/ almost every robot with a face has one of them in the toy or cartoon version, including the females. In the original toys it was inspired by Egyptian death masks and Kabuto. Optimus now has a mouth and chin, thus he has the "soul patch".
He looked better when he was out of focus by Phategod2	Sep 5th, 2006 03:44:51 PM
and ganymede this is a AICN TB we are not here to stroke anyone's ego or to sit here and say how great this movie is going to be. did you sit there and spow your blind optimism when Batman & robin came out, or did you just slink in a corner and decide that you weren't going to see it. this is a talkback so that's what we do, most of the opinions are negative so guess what? your going to have alot of negative Talk backs. but you sound perfect for DonMurphy.net you should sign up. but here we have total freedom of speech you can post your blind optimism, and we can all live in the world of reality.
I was wondering what his butt looked like by kafka07	Sep 5th, 2006 03:49:53 PM
Thanks now I can die happy.
A movie about a low rent cartoon done in CGI. Wow. by uberman	Sep 5th, 2006 03:50:32 PM
This will be great.
The movie optimus won't have flames. by fortheloveofgod	Sep 5th, 2006 03:51:09 PM
He will look like the old cartoon with a flat nose........the thing is many fans are so sick this shit stuff that they will not watch it. Which is sad beacause a sure fire blockbuster has been destroyed.
Although... by kafka07	Sep 5th, 2006 03:51:52 PM
It would have been best if they used two tire for butt cheeks.
The Don Murphy Boards by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 5th, 2006 03:53:18 PM
I just took a look over there. Whereas the poster image seems to have impressed folks, these images are not going over too well there.
No nipples? by cromulent	Sep 5th, 2006 03:57:45 PM

Snakesonabicycle you speak truth by IndustryKiller	Sep 5th, 2006 03:58:17 PM
large scale failure would be the best thing that could ever happen to filmgoers. Nowadays the are 50 "products" to every real film that comes out. I just had the pleasure of watching the film Half Nelson with Ryan Gosling and it made me smile that the real acting of the 70's isn't dead after all. It's unarguable that the mid to late 70's was the pinnacle of cinema and the closer we get to that the better.
Bay's Message Boards by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 5th, 2006 03:59:37 PM
Now Bay's blog administrator, Nelson, has chimed in on these: "Old stuff. This design was around that of October 2005." ** http://tinyurl.com/pts9x
Hey RC, by Shaner Jedi	Sep 5th, 2006 04:00:33 PM
ILM designs stuff that meets Bay's approval, not whatever they want you douchebag. Nate, ILM is the main fx company on the show. BTW, there are no A or B teams at ILM you little bitches. If you're available, they use you.
Why so many leaks? by fortheloveofgod	Sep 5th, 2006 04:01:32 PM
Is asslicking Quint giving fake info and pics out?
None of these have a recognizeable sillouette. by modlight	Sep 5th, 2006 04:09:05 PM
if they backlight these characters they'd all look alike. No one would mistake Jazz for Optimus or Bumblebee in the old cartoon because they looked like their vehicles. Now they all look the same. I'm back to being angered.
DAMN YOU MICHAEL BAY! by MCMLXXVI	Sep 5th, 2006 04:10:02 PM

Phategod2, Schumaucker was robbed for Best Director! by ganymede2010	Sep 5th, 2006 04:10:25 PM
Batman & Robin was the shiz! NOT....
Wow, AICN is really pushing this flick. by Orbots Commander	Sep 5th, 2006 04:12:24 PM
Yeah, I get it--targeted marketing. But since most of the fanbase, which I'm not really one of (just a general sci-fi/action/horror fan) have really just dismissed this flick at this point, I think AICN pushing it is only going to make it worse, box-office wise. The constant hype and the hard sell is bringing back memories of Emmerich's Godzilla flick.
I like cartoons and toys by filmcans	Sep 5th, 2006 04:13:46 PM
...and yet...who cares? I'm shocked people are reacting as if Transformers has any cohesion in its universe. What's canon? The cartoon? The comics? Which cartoon? What comics? It's a TOY LINE with licsenced junk to go along with it. How can anybody RUIN it?
toy commercial by Staldo	Sep 5th, 2006 04:15:58 PM
Why is anybody excited about a movie based on a badly animated half-hour toy commercial? There, I posted it so the usual condescending assmilks don't have to take time out of reading Proust and jacking off to Moore's Lost Girls.
Goodbye Steve Irwin by talkbackgeek	Sep 5th, 2006 04:20:47 PM
Crikey! Rest in peace Steve.
Looks like the TF minions are madder than ever now by brokebackcowboy	Sep 5th, 2006 04:21:55 PM
Might as well wrap up production before any more money is wasted. Optimus Prime looks like it was made from spare parts and should be standing outside an Autozone. WTF? Too much detailing and no personality.
It makes me actually feel good about Megatron's... by DOGSOUP	Sep 5th, 2006 04:26:46 PM
...Vagina Dentata face. That's a bad sign.
I can see what they are doing by Larry of Arabia	Sep 5th, 2006 04:27:05 PM
He looks more human and not like a bunch of boxes locked together with joints. Defined arms and legs, and tubes and wires like sinews. Am I mistaken or does he have nipples?? I've been avoiding judgement so far, it lacks the charm of the older transformers. To me what made them cool was that they were still cars. The proof will be in the movie, however. We shall see.
70's Movies by Jak0lantern01	Sep 5th, 2006 04:28:58 PM
OK, well at least we have a few people here seem to agree that movies of the 70's rocked. Acting, style, innovation, all there. Something appears to have been lost since then, it's called soul. These movies have no soul. Instead, they are planned out by a corporate commitee about how to make a movie appeal to the most people possible and take no chances. Don't try to tell me redesigning Meg's and Prime is taking a chance. No, instead it's suicide. I guess we can blame Lucas and the Star Wars marketing machine. People behind the camera can claim to be making art, but instead, it's really a product. That's all. Bay can take his MTV style of filmmaking and go to....FUSE. MTV doesn't do vids anymore. Funny thing is, even bad movies from the 70's seem pretty good by today's standards.
titties by SnakesOnABicycle	Sep 5th, 2006 04:36:46 PM
before youre deleted and banned, what was that you were trying to draw?
The New Design For Optimus Prime? by SnakesOnABicycle	Sep 5th, 2006 04:37:57 PM
Whatever it was, they should go with that instead.
McTitties by rev_skarekroe	Sep 5th, 2006 04:40:34 PM
Good gravy man, don't you have a job or homework or something?
Ummm... by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 5th, 2006 04:40:43 PM
I see dead people...
Talkbackers won't accept anything short of the Cartoon by ganymede2010	Sep 5th, 2006 04:40:57 PM
No matter what Bay does. If he doesn't look like that dull and outdated cartoon lego, these girls are going cry. Cry on.
This shouldn't happen period by bishopfan85	Sep 5th, 2006 04:49:51 PM
I'm not necessarily as appalled as many of the talkbackers are in regards to this project. Personally, the second I think of a live action version of any cartoon that has such a large array of characters that would simply cost more than the current U.S.deficit, my general thought is that it just should not even be attempted. But once I hear, "Hey there's going to be a live action Transformers.", my first thought is, "Well I guess we're only going to be seeing a handfull of our favorites and there's no way that it will be able to stand true to its source material to any major degree." So here we are, we have this film coming out that I would say is more of a homage to the Transformers that we know and love. When I see the images that have been released which I understand to be prototypes that have the potential to go through an ARRAY of changes between now and release time, that is the least of my issues. Optimus looks like Optimus to me. Yeah, he's upgraded but he's recognizable. Some of them not so much, especially Megatron and I hope they plan to make plenty of changes before they come up with the final design. What concerns me most are the script reviews that indicate that there won't be much of Megatron in the film to begin with and that the Transformers don't actually talk (I haven't read myself so as far as I know that isn't confirmed). Those types of things are what make me uneasy about this film but being a fan of most of Bay's films I have faith that I won't be sitting in that theatre being completely unsatisfied. I rarely agree with talkback reviewers because I do my best to dumb myself down for the sake of action cinema (that's from years of getting the politics behind them). Needless to say, AICN would be better off not sharing much more info as its clear that nothing will satisfy those who stand loyal to the original transformers cartoon. The fact that not a single cartoon that has followed came close to being as well written or entertaining, I can't imagine this film not at the least being one of the first Transformers related pieces that doesn't completely suck since the 80's. I would be much more excitedd to see a CGI, Final Fantasy Style 2 plus hour epic Transformers Film but obviously it's too late for that so oh well.
Piece of advice to Paramount and Michael Bay: by Orbots Commander	Sep 5th, 2006 04:51:21 PM
Look, at this point you don't seem to have the hardcore Transformers fans on your side, niche as their segment might be, so quit with the "unofficial leaks". The best thing you can do for yourselves to stop with the hard sell, hunker down and finish your movie. It's going to be what's it's going to be. If the footage is bad, maybe Mr. Spielberg can help you save the movie in the editing room. Regardless, you're not doing yourselves any favors with this leaks, so quit digging while you're standing in a hole of shit and sewage and go back to work on your movie and focus on telling the best story you can tell.
why is it so bad..... by slappy jones	Sep 5th, 2006 04:53:18 PM
to want the transformers in the movie transformers which is based on the cartoon called transformers to look like fucking transformers???why is that so bad?these designs would be great if the film was called "Overly Complicated Changebots" but they just don't look anything like transformers..especially megatron. with megatron they might as well have just given him a new name..these designs sum up a bay film in everyway..over the top and totally unnecessary
How much is Paramount paying you, Harry??? by Forestal	Sep 5th, 2006 04:53:58 PM

still not sure by cabbageheat	Sep 5th, 2006 04:57:16 PM
i am a little confused by the headshots. i don't understand what I"m looking at. is that a huge nose or something? too hard to tell from these photos. i think his heads a little too thin however. hopefully some new pics will surface soon.
Optimism by SnakesOnABicycle	Sep 5th, 2006 05:02:16 PM
Anyone who thinks these designs are going to change, other than on a micro level, are just fooling themselves. They built a giant Bumble Bee robot, they already shot with that stupid purple and flamey Optimus truck, and at least most of you have realistically given up hope on Megatron. But the stuff they built, the "real" shit, is already done, designed, and most likely filmed. They wouldnt mesh with any new CGI last minute design. If they try to make Bungled Bee look any less like a serial killer, his "ultra realistic" design (he's a fucking space alien robot for fucksakes, where's the irony in that) will not mesh. If they try to make Starscream look like less of a gorilla... well you get the fucking point. Why not hope for something more realistic? Like the worst movie of all time. That way when we download it, it will at least be worth our normally designated porn bandwith, and a few laughs.
10 tons of SHIT!!!! by alienindisguise	Sep 5th, 2006 05:03:49 PM
Fuck Bay and Spielberg claiming to be Transformer fans...A real fan wouldn't piss all over the already perfect design of Prime....YYYAAARRRGGGHHHH! Oh yeah and what's up with Prime's feet?
I know how it works... by Bash_Branigan	Sep 5th, 2006 05:03:55 PM
Micahel Bay's head folds up into his @ss. Oh, wait. You meant how Optimus works...
I envy Steve Irwin by W3bzpinn3r	Sep 5th, 2006 05:03:59 PM
I wish a stingray would pierce my heart and kill me instantly, so I'll never be subjected to this shitty movie.
Sweet Christmas Crap! by Playhouse	Sep 5th, 2006 05:10:46 PM
My car!!! Dear lord, that face is worse than the rest of the body. I'm done. That cashed in my ticket right there.
Guys, there's a BIG difference between movies and toys by Triumph poops!	Sep 5th, 2006 05:12:15 PM
Merrick pondered at one point in his articlle how something with so many parts would actually transform...as if it wouldn't look right. But, come on, let's be real here. There's a HELLUVA lot of difference between what you'd like to see in motion/action on a giant ass movie screen VERSUS a toy that's sitting on the store shelf which has to be practical in terms of manufacturing and sales costs and even safety issues towards the eventual buyer (ie. the kids who'll be playing with it). I love what I've seen so far. As someone else noted, so far these movie Transformers look totally badass and great. WAY better than I had even hoped. As to how they'll actually transform, onscreen they'll transform a helluva lot more realistically to the average viewer. And that's because, bottom line, people mentially know a truck or certainly a jet plane or anything of that nature simply has a HELLUVA lot of moving parts or components to it. So the average moviegoer is going to expect the Transformers robots to have a ton of things sticking off them or whatnot. As for how the toys will be, naturally they'll be trimmed down versions for practicality sake. They'll look like the movie incarnations, but obviously be way simpler due to manufacturing. But overall I think this movie LOOKS great...but I expected that from Bay and Spielberg. So here's just hoping the actual SCRIPT doesn't suck ass as much as I've heard rumors of. Otherwise, I think this will be a fun flick and I'm betting neck summer a whole new generation of kids will be loving it. Come on, it's big ass robots that transform into everyday things which then transform back into cool ass robots to beat on each other's ass. So in the end, what more did you actually expect this project to be like? Speaking as someone who grew up seeing the show, so far this movie looks about what I expected it to be...hell, so far it looks BETTER than I expected it to be. I can't wait.
Fetal Alcohol Syndrome by pelos_locos	Sep 5th, 2006 05:16:26 PM
Prime face reminds me of kids with Fetal Alcohol Syndrome (look it up in WebMD), even with the mask on. Optimus Mom must have hit it hard with the beer. Some of the symptoms include small eyes, larger separation between the eyes, a flat upper face and more. The nose reminds me of the Beast from the Disney movie. Change the face. Everything else rocks.
I would of liked an omage to Prime by Phategod2	Sep 5th, 2006 05:19:07 PM
and the rest, instead we get this slander.
The eyes work for me by Turd Furgusen	Sep 5th, 2006 05:21:45 PM
The face in non-combat is a little weird. I like the eyes, they seem to emote a serious vibe as well as other emotions without some dumb-ass metal eye-brows. I am sure the concept artists toyed with that idea. No pun intended. MNG if I missed a previous post, what do you think of the eyes?
This movie was over as soon as Bay signed on. by Logo Lou	Sep 5th, 2006 05:24:58 PM
The plot and designs could look EXACTLY like the cartoon and it wouldn't matter, the man's movies suck. Sorry, I give the man no slack at all unlike Moriarty, and I won't suck his balls like Harry. As many have said, box office wise: big opening weekend (but not as big as they think), then all downhill from there...
I think it would be funny if we all went to the premier by smackfu	Sep 5th, 2006 05:27:10 PM
and the film rolled and it was just 2 hours of michael bay fucking a fat man in a transformers shirt up the ass in a room full of moneybags while laughing and slapping his ass.
nevermind by Turd Furgusen	Sep 5th, 2006 05:29:09 PM
I just read what tile_mcgillus posted and it makes sense that this is concept work. I think the eyes could still work seeing what Bumblebee looks like. I'm sure that they could make them glow yellow under certain combat conditions or environmental conditions (night vision). I have to agree with many others, you have to have a couple of scenes with OP sportn' the yellow eyes. Give us a little G1 nod, would ya?
If there is a bonus scene after the end credits roll by smackfu	Sep 5th, 2006 05:29:41 PM
It should be a closeup shot of a coke table in disarray while defocused in the background is michael bay with his back turned to us, propping himself up against he wall with one arm and vomiting into a flowerpot.
beat me to it by kahootz	Sep 5th, 2006 05:38:09 PM
Damn anyone who referenced "Pimp My Ride" before me. That was so mine.
Harry, for fuck's sake...... by CloneRangerUK	Sep 5th, 2006 05:44:09 PM
....please comment on this abortion of a movie, you have been too silent on this for too long!!!
Crap. by Lucasblows	Sep 5th, 2006 05:51:57 PM
Crap.
Looks horrible.... by GibsonUSA	Sep 5th, 2006 05:52:08 PM
What is with the bored look on Megs and Prime's faces? It looks worse up close.
hm by Dollar Bird	Sep 5th, 2006 05:53:01 PM
Didn't Cullen do the voice of Kong in "King Kong Returns"? I guess that jives with Prime's new ape face.
Gibson USA.... by CloneRangerUK	Sep 5th, 2006 05:56:40 PM
...thats the fans faces!
Can someone send Bay.... by CloneRangerUK	Sep 5th, 2006 05:58:04 PM
...down to the Great Barrier Reef to do some Seacon research???
the face cant be serious - a mouth ON the faceplate? by FuriousStyles	Sep 5th, 2006 05:58:58 PM
if these are leaks, they better start leaking something good, cos this film looks worse DAILY................forget G1 faithfulness - these just look terrible period................a Transformers film should have been easy money in the bank - but no, these geniuses know better than PROVEN HISTORY and thus, have lost me
What is it the kids say these days?... by OurManInMontr	Sep 5th, 2006 06:04:23 PM
...ah yeah: FUGLY.
Flames on Optimus = Vanilla Ice in TMNT 2 by PhantomSpazzz	Sep 5th, 2006 06:06:56 PM
Flames on Optimus = Han shoots first Flames on Optimus = green goblin outfit Flames on Optimus = NSYNC in Star Wars Flames on Optimus = gay homo love (not that there's anything wrong with that.)
Even worse up close by FookU	Sep 5th, 2006 06:08:55 PM
His face with and without the mouth plate look terrible. I thought they got the head right until I saw this and now even Optimus' head is fucked. This gets worse and worse.
They should just call this movie Voltron.... by GibsonUSA	Sep 5th, 2006 06:17:56 PM
At this point nobody can tell what the f*ck it is regardless....
flames != Han shoots first by mocky_puppet	Sep 5th, 2006 06:21:52 PM
nothing equals the magnitude of awfulness delivered by "Greedo shoots first". nothing.
Man that toy is going to be sharp. by Archduke_Chocula	Sep 5th, 2006 06:24:49 PM
Sharp edges I mean. http://k105.blogspot.com/
looks like by JCR5686	Sep 5th, 2006 06:25:56 PM
he's falling asleep
If they are testing the waters on what we want.... by GibsonUSA	Sep 5th, 2006 06:27:23 PM
I think we should save them some time and let them know that the general consensus for Prime is 1.)GET RID OF THE FLAMES, 2.) No Monkeyface, 3.) GET RID OF THE FLAMES, 4.) Less exposed parts and gears, 5.) GET RID OF THE FLAMES, 6.)a more simplistic and G1 inspired design (less small jaggy parts), and 7.) GET RID OF THE FLAMES.....and if at all possible, a last minute change to the proper flat-nosed truck would win over a ton of people.....BUT WITHOUT FLAMES.
his face looks fucking horid by quadrupletree	Sep 5th, 2006 06:30:46 PM
It looks like a gorilla face. WTF? Just don't show his face!!
New film pitch...... by CloneRangerUK	Sep 5th, 2006 06:30:57 PM
...Stingrays on a Bay...please..before it's too late!!
OCC Prime by ImissGnR	Sep 5th, 2006 06:33:31 PM
looks the the tuttles did good. wtf!!
So does he have tribal tatoo mudflaps? by PUGLIFE	Sep 5th, 2006 06:36:53 PM
I bet this Optimus runs on Mountain Dew
Looks like General Grievous after a day at the Spa by Press Lenox	Sep 5th, 2006 06:51:32 PM

anybody out there actually LIKE the script?? by bigdickmcgee	Sep 5th, 2006 06:54:56 PM
All the reviews so far have been terrible.
My question is: by Orbots Commander	Sep 5th, 2006 06:59:07 PM
If the Spiderman movie producers had the foresight to hire great writers like Michael Chabon and Alvin Sargent to write their screenplays what was stopping Paramount and Spielberg from going out and hiring a heavy hitter to pen the Transformers script? Imagine a Transformers script by Gaiman, Stephenson, or even Ray Bradbury (yes, he's still alive).
stretchin bastards by thebearovingian	Sep 5th, 2006 07:03:52 PM
TBers who stretch the TB are just as bad as the momos who designed this flamed up Optimus Prime impostor. It's not supposed to look like this!!
As none of the TF stuff has looked the way its supposed by finky089	Sep 5th, 2006 07:14:13 PM
It seems ironically appropriate that the TB got STTTTRREEEEETTTTCCCCHHHEEDDD. TINO!TINO!TINO!TINO!TINO!TINO!
But, it's still a pain in the ass by finky089	Sep 5th, 2006 07:15:11 PM

bigdickmcgee... by Staldo	Sep 5th, 2006 07:17:02 PM
I have to say I liked the script, with quite a few reservations. Prime's characterization, and the fact that, in that early draft, his narration begins and ends the movie is pretty cool. The action, when it actually gets rolling about 3/5 of the way through the script, after a lot of unneccessary human characterization I didn't care for(do I really need to know about what the military characters do in their off time?), actually gave me goosebumps. Also to the script's credit, it sets the stage for something bigger and better.(you honestly think a sequel to this movie wouldn't improve on the first?) It is essentially an introduction, and should be taken as such. As Shia LeBouf said in his interview, the whole movie plays like a trailer, albeit one of the coolest damn trailers I've ever seen. As it stands it is definitely worth two hours of my life, but another half-hour of characterization on the transformers and less focus on random humans would more than pay for itself.
Bah! Bay! Flames! Anger! Movie! Words! Complain! Fans! by Rearden	Sep 5th, 2006 07:17:38 PM
Cartoon! Snarl! Script! Pupils! Original! Grunt! Faceplate! Pictures! Noun! Verb! Adjective! Flat-nose-truck! Megatron! Paramount! Spielberg! 'Splosions! Hasbro! Desert! Pearl Harbor! Exclamation point! SoundWave! Orsen Welles! Mars! Scatman! Holes! The Island! Discontent! Bitter! Virgins!
It's stupid, but... by Eaglet1138	Sep 5th, 2006 07:23:15 PM
But it's Transfuckingformers, so it's going to be stupid. But I'm sure it'll be a fun movie, and this picture doesn't make me not want to watch it. So...whatever. Just release the freaking movie.
Oh well, nevermind by Dolmes	Sep 5th, 2006 07:27:34 PM
could be worse.
Wow, I never knew, by moose4787	Sep 5th, 2006 07:29:43 PM
that under his face gaurd he was really just a scuzzy illeagle mexican imagrent.
Apologists. SUCK A BIG WANG by messi	Sep 5th, 2006 07:33:29 PM
Aintitshot(Don Murphy), googamooga and deadlegend. Suck a big wang, lexington steele style. You guys like the flames even though there is NO FUCKING REASON other than to bring in the idiotic pimp my robot crowd. Doesn't accentuate his ribs, Bay owned himself because one, it doesn't do it at all, and two, you don't need flames, if your transformer is this complicated and broken in little bits, then use the bits to accentuate the ribs. Fuck you all. FUCK YOU!
Staldo what script did you read? by messi	Sep 5th, 2006 07:35:46 PM
because the only optimus moment i read was when he felt guilt for bumblebee when he got the glasses, apart from that Optimus is non existant. so.....PLANT!
THIS is the face of optimus... by quamb	Sep 5th, 2006 07:36:50 PM
http://www.finaldestinationcol lectibles.com/ebaypics/tfpos.j pg
Yikes by DrSherlockHouse	Sep 5th, 2006 07:38:10 PM
I have watched the Transformers debates, and I finally am going to speak up myself. I was a fan of the original, but not enough to remember a lot about it. I LOVED the toys, and I loved the designs of them. What I hate about the new stuff is the same thing I hate about the new toys...they are too complicated. To transform, you need an engineering degree. Nothing ever looks right, it's just parts sticking out, weird shapes, thin lines. I liked the blocky build of the G1 characters. This Prime, he looks close, but sitll too much going on. Too many things. I don't care about realism...I care that these things resemble what I liked in the first place. Why not just set it in the 80's...explain Megatron and Shockwave's size problems by the fact that these are ALIEN technology. It doesn't have to adhere to any science. My last problem is with Megatron. The design sucks, we can agree on that...but he changes into an Alien Spacecraft???? WHat part of ROBOTS IN DISGUISE did they not understand??? I mean, why hide your alien robot technology by transforming into OTHER alien robot technology. Color me disappointed.
I dig it. I wish he was a tad bulkier, but I dig it. by Shermdawg	Sep 5th, 2006 07:38:28 PM
I just hope he keeps the face gaurd up most of the time. Now if they could just fix Starscream...
I own a G1 Optimus by eviltoast	Sep 5th, 2006 07:38:41 PM
...Jazz, Jetfire, Scout, and many others besides. I bought Autobots and forced my younger brother to buy Decipticons. I am now 32, have 2 kids, and make videogames for a living. And I think that, as toys, these designs are... not badass. Nor do they suck. I actually think they are almost great, but lack that certain soul-power.. the clever elegance that made the G1 toys awesome and revolutionary. Now... and here's the thing... these are not toys. These are actors in a movie. Robots (CGI, practical models, whatever, I am talking about thier design as robots) called upon to perform and emote on the level of , and share the screen with, human beings, and for that, you need a design substantially more complex than your G1 O.P., and these designs fit that bill - and I hope to the baby allah the toy ends up looking as cool as these images.
people trying to fix problems for first movie in sequel by messi	Sep 5th, 2006 07:44:19 PM
and the movie hasn't even fucking come out yet. that's when you know you have a problem. or people already talking about the reboot, when the original hasn't even come out yet. paramount. that is not good news
'hardcore' fans are not happy with the head by messi	Sep 5th, 2006 07:47:03 PM
just letting you know, because before the hardcore fans were more open to everything since they (don't know why) followed the other incarnations fo transformers.(but they still hated megatron, and now optimus' head).
Actually, the more I look at him, I really dig it. by Shermdawg	Sep 5th, 2006 07:49:29 PM
But, like Merrick, I don't see how this will transform as a toy. They'd have to redesign it a bit.
Solution that would've fixed everything: by CreasyBear	Sep 5th, 2006 07:49:55 PM
Flames on Batman's suit; nipples on Optimus. Think about it.
WEAK! by Shaboozie	Sep 5th, 2006 07:53:17 PM
Why can't they stay more true to the G1 Prime? We all could live with slight changes but fuck man that looks like shit compared to the classic design.
what would save this movie. by Phategod2	Sep 5th, 2006 07:55:34 PM
Balls on Don Murphy, A Fist on Mike Bay, and a Damn arm cannon on megatron.
Looked better from a distance by Gorrister	Sep 5th, 2006 07:58:47 PM
Are these releases attempts to try to win fans over? If so, is it working? To me, Optimus looks worse than I originally thought he did.
something negative(spoiler) by Staldo	Sep 5th, 2006 07:59:13 PM
you didn't like Prime proselytizing about the "legions of chaos" and the fucking Mount everest part? then I don't know what Optimus you remember from your childhood. I remember a giant robot with an eloquent Abraham Lincoln streak. I will say that the little Arab boy, the microwave burrito line and the damn product placement op Xbox-former need to fuck off as well as the random non-transforming scorpion thing. Would it have been so hard to have an insecticon or something? Also Pluto is still a planet, only a Dwarf planet. Dwarf people are still people right? I rest my case.
And about the ending... by Shermdawg	Sep 5th, 2006 08:05:00 PM
Despite a lot of stuff I didn't like about the script, the Mt.Everest bit will have my ass in the theater. That will be an amazing shot.
You know where going to get the Mike Bay by Phategod2	Sep 5th, 2006 08:05:08 PM
Circle the actor shot in that Everest scene.
Everest Scene by McGsStepson	Sep 5th, 2006 08:16:40 PM
Does not make up for the fucking 50+ pages of Wonderbug that we get at the beginning of the film.
re:You know where going to get the Mike Bay by Flux_brown	Sep 5th, 2006 08:16:49 PM
and i have to admit, its gonna look pretty sweeeeettt
Will the classic "more than meets they eye" song be in? by McGsStepson	Sep 5th, 2006 08:18:24 PM
A big question no doubt. I know Don "The Dragon" Murphy has said no but I really don't give a shit what he says at this point.
Looks like a pile of parts by jocutus	Sep 5th, 2006 08:21:19 PM
If it looks so jumbled standing still I can't wait to see what a blurry mess it looks like when animated. They must have told the designers that the original cartoon versions were too simplistic. I imagine trying to transform the toy of this would be like trying to solve a Rubic's Hypercube. Have fun kids, and be careful no to cut yourself on on those sharp edges!
How Do You Fuck Up by Playhouse	Sep 5th, 2006 08:23:58 PM
Prime's head?!?!?!?! It's just intentional now.
RE: RE: You know where going to get the Mike Bay by Phategod2	Sep 5th, 2006 08:33:44 PM
No it not going to be sweet its goin to be as Gay and over indulgent as Flames on prime and Doves in a Woo movie we get the point and we don't think its cool anymore I think once anythings been done in cinematography to "Will Smith" it's no longer cool.
This Toy Commercial Is Ruined!!! by LaserPants	Sep 5th, 2006 08:34:02 PM
RUINED!!! Hey, wait... hold on... that actually looks pretty okay. In fact, it looks pretty cool! WOW! I've changed my mind! THIS TOY COMMERCIAL LOOKS AWESOME!!! I can't wait till I can buy more useless crap! Woo hoo! Lets here it for feature length toy commercials which have attained an almost mythical relgious experience amongst the "raised by the television set" generation!!! The ultimte triumph of marketing over the human imagination! Yay!
im just waiting for the trailer to blow us all away.... by wcoop893	Sep 5th, 2006 08:34:50 PM
because i love this robot. and mike bay will do exactly that, blow everything up and its gonna be glorious. hopefully.
A question to all the Apologist Out there by Phategod2	Sep 5th, 2006 08:41:17 PM
Let me get this right Because I want to believe that your smarter then everyone percieves you to be please tell me that you would be happy with a movie with alot of airhead characters that make no sense at all tell me that you at least want to care about the characters and are not just there to see "shit blowed up real good."
Well, that tears it. by NYSCO6390	Sep 5th, 2006 08:42:17 PM
I've begun my campaign of telling people that they're not allowed to see this movie. In the words of greats like Psycho Mark and Opie and Anthony "Michael Bay, YOUR MOM'S BOX"
aside from the flames i would have no problem with this by BLWiseass	Sep 5th, 2006 08:52:07 PM
Though i don't quite understand where some of the wheels have gone
phategod by Flux_brown	Sep 5th, 2006 09:01:34 PM
I have to admit, i'm a sucker for those slow mo mikey bay glory shots, but hey...nobody's perfect :) But i sure as hell aint crazy bout these character designs. And with all these leaks we've been seeing lately, i just hope that all teh conspiracy theories are true, that this is all just bs, and most possibly the aingle most elaborate hoax ever...Harry, any ideas? oh waitaminute...ur one of THEM now!
If you look at the wheels by NYSCO6390	Sep 5th, 2006 09:18:07 PM
with the dualies up by Prime's hips, it looks like he just folds himself over and the cab just builds up from his legs and torso. It's just aweful planning.
man, people love this Transformers crap by Rupee88	Sep 5th, 2006 09:18:10 PM
I didn't understand why this site has so many Transformers articles, but I see that each one generates an extremely active talkback. Guess I was too old by 5 years or so to be into Transformers. They seem retarded to me, but maybe I would have liked them as a little kid.
I've been on the fence about the flames by ATARI	Sep 5th, 2006 09:19:26 PM
But now I've decided -- they have to go. Just doesn't fit with Optimus' personality. I, am, however, OK with the longnose semi.
BLWiseass.... by Hairy Nutsack	Sep 5th, 2006 09:21:18 PM
I was eyeballing Prime in order to figure out how this thing is supposed to Transform (I'm contemplating doing a rough model for another video) If you look at his upper thigh area you can see the 2 rear tires, and if you look at his feet you see the front tire. Now everyone stop and think about this for a minute, that means his upper torso is somehow going to stretch down completely over the legs and end up on top of his feet when he turns into a truck. THEY CAN'T EVEN GET THE FUCKING TRANSFORMATION RIGHT!! Instead of seeing him pop up forward with his legs trailing we're getting the opposite, and you fucking apologists can kiss my ass, because yes the basic transformation certainly matters. Can't have mass shifting, but Prime can fucking break in half, and his chest, which was resting on his feet, can jump up onto his ass somehow?
Does anyone remember what Prime and Megs looked like? by McGsStepson	Sep 5th, 2006 09:25:21 PM
I mean really man. Just google their images. I was the last guy to be a "purist" on this topic but these are just ridiculous. FUCKING RIDICULOUS!!!
Optimus's REAL face = Where's Waldo by Blartifartass	Sep 5th, 2006 09:35:09 PM
Seriously, I've found Optimus's real face, RIGHT there in plain view! http://tinyurl.com/ktq4c
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = JASON BATEMAN IN TEEN WOLF TOO by Elmore Rigby	Sep 5th, 2006 09:41:05 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = PHATEGOD 2 &1 ON BITORRENT! by Phategod2	Sep 5th, 2006 09:44:25 PM

Flames on Optimus = Otis' Theme in Superman by brokebackcowboy	Sep 5th, 2006 09:47:42 PM
Think about THAT!
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = TALKING IN A PORN VIDEO by brokebackcowboy	Sep 5th, 2006 09:55:52 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = EWOKS IN ROTJ by brokebackcowboy	Sep 5th, 2006 09:57:03 PM
I'm sure someone said that already ...
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = MADONNA IN DIE ANOTHER DAY by brokebackcowboy	Sep 5th, 2006 10:01:22 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = MICHAEL JACKSON'S 1ST NOSEJOB by brokebackcowboy	Sep 5th, 2006 10:07:19 PM
It's all downhill from there.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = A ZIT ON JESSICA ALBA'S ASS by brokebackcowboy	Sep 5th, 2006 10:10:16 PM
Why fuck with perfection?
Gus Van Rant... by The Atomic Worm	Sep 5th, 2006 10:14:03 PM
Please blow it out your own arsehole, slapnut. This movie will own. Ya hear me fanboys???? OWN!!!!!!!!!!!
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = THE BEST THING TO EVER HAPPEN TO TF by PeopleKillRobots	Sep 5th, 2006 10:21:34 PM
yeah. i said it.
NO FLAMES ON PRIME = NUTS ON APOLOGIST'S CHIN by Phategod2	Sep 5th, 2006 10:31:10 PM
Because thats where they belong.
you are all FUCKING NERDS by Dannychico	Sep 5th, 2006 10:34:25 PM

CALM DOWN PEOPLE.... by YourPapi	Sep 5th, 2006 10:36:00 PM
According to Nelson over on Bay's site, these "new" pictures are actually from October 2005...in other words older than the first pic we saw last week. Its obviousl from last week's photo that prime's face looks nothing like these "new" pics. In other words, these pics are null and void, they are OLD.
according to Nelson.... by YourPapi	Sep 5th, 2006 10:39:54 PM
"BTW, even that Vegas tradeshow board is based on old design. These leaked drawings by acquired tfw2005 & AICN are old old drawings from initial concepts." So lets relax a bit guys...
YourPapi by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 5th, 2006 10:44:20 PM
Thanks for repeating something I already said and linked to earlier in this TB. DID YOU SEE THAT GUYS???
The flames are appropriate by Gorrister	Sep 5th, 2006 10:53:48 PM
Optimus is totally flaming. Hollywoods first mainstream gay robot. At least, as gay as michael bay.
Mr. Nice Gaius by YourPapi	Sep 5th, 2006 11:03:27 PM
Sorry if I missed it mate.....didnt have time to read all the posts, Im at work :)
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = MICHAEL BROWN AT FEMA by brokebackcowboy	Sep 5th, 2006 11:03:39 PM
You're doin' a heckuva job, Donnie! Bwaaahhahhahahahahaa!!!
YourPapi by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 5th, 2006 11:05:53 PM
No worries.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = STINGRAY SHOOTS CROC HUNTER FIRST by Elmore Rigby	Sep 5th, 2006 11:07:29 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = A POTATO SACK ON ADRIANA LIMA by brokebackcowboy	Sep 5th, 2006 11:09:02 PM
Don't fuck up a good thing, Donny Two Chins.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = JOHNNY DEPP AS WONKA by Elmore Rigby	Sep 5th, 2006 11:11:48 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = HILLARY IN '08 by Elmore Rigby	Sep 5th, 2006 11:12:24 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = A HOLE IN THE LAST CONDOM by brokebackcowboy	Sep 5th, 2006 11:12:27 PM
It sucks, do you get it Donny?!
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = IRAQ HAVING NO W.M.D.'s by Elmore Rigby	Sep 5th, 2006 11:14:30 PM

THe new name for Don "ainitshot" Murphy by Phategod2	Sep 5th, 2006 11:15:25 PM
Donny Two Chins! has that Mobster, Dick tracy feel to it from now on thanks to BBCB Don "ainitshot" Murphy shall be referred to a Big Donny two chins.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = BIN LADEN STILL ALIVE by brokebackcowboy	Sep 5th, 2006 11:15:29 PM
It's been 5 years for fuck's sake!
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = DUCK HUNTING WITH DICK CHENEY by brokebackcowboy	Sep 5th, 2006 11:16:49 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = STEVE BARTMAN TRYING TO CATCH FOUL by Elmore Rigby	Sep 5th, 2006 11:18:42 PM

PhateGOD2 by brokebackcowboy	Sep 5th, 2006 11:18:43 PM
Spread the word dude! Donny Two Chins! hehe
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = SEAN HANNITY by Flux_brown	Sep 5th, 2006 11:19:50 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS= SNAKES ON A PLANE OPENING BOX OFFIC by Elmore Rigby	Sep 5th, 2006 11:19:59 PM

"Priiime! Can you transform?" by BrandLoyalist	Sep 5th, 2006 11:20:11 PM
Scatman Crothers was the first to ask this question - but it was because Optimus was injured and low on delicious energon, not because he was pointy
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = ROSA PARKS SENT TO BACK OF BUS by Elmore Rigby	Sep 5th, 2006 11:21:02 PM

ROFL elmore rigby! by Flux_brown	Sep 5th, 2006 11:22:17 PM
good one!
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = EURO-FUCKING-DISNEY by Elmore Rigby	Sep 5th, 2006 11:23:12 PM

RE... by ewokstew	Sep 5th, 2006 11:24:41 PM
TARDED.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = ANN COULTER IN A BIKINI by brokebackcowboy	Sep 5th, 2006 11:27:26 PM
My EyeS!!!!!!!
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = FLAMES ON OPTIMUS JOKES by Flux_brown	Sep 5th, 2006 11:28:02 PM
somebody had to say it :)
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS= TAKE BIG FREAKING CHILL PILLS by Lobanhaki	Sep 5th, 2006 11:28:48 PM
Somebody's going to have to explain to me how a multi-ton robot transforms into a five pound hand-gun. It works if you're drawing it, but in three dimensions next to people and vehicles that move with weight and physics to them, it becomes a different matter. The real test is how the final rendered product looks, and how the transformations work out in the film.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = HAIR ON ANGELINA JOLIE'S CHEST by brokebackcowboy	Sep 5th, 2006 11:29:54 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = FUCKIN STINGRAYS! by Flux_brown	Sep 5th, 2006 11:30:46 PM
i still can't get over it...RIP croc hunter!
Lobanhaki by brokebackcowboy	Sep 5th, 2006 11:32:10 PM
"... explain to me how a multi-ton robot transforms into a five-pound hand-gun" .... It is the same principle that applies to my penis. A BWAHAHHAAHAAAAHHHAAHAH!!!!
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = BROKEBACKCOWBOY by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 5th, 2006 11:32:35 PM
Dude! Cut. It. Out.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = SUPERMAN IV by brokebackcowboy	Sep 5th, 2006 11:33:32 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = HARRY & KID IN SHIT-FILLED DIAPER by Badger999	Sep 5th, 2006 11:34:48 PM
It is funny because it is true. http://tinyurl.com/h3xjk
MNG by brokebackcowboy	Sep 5th, 2006 11:36:37 PM
Can I get a few more out of my system? I had too much coffee tonight ...
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = HARRY'S BLADE 2 REVIEW by Badger999	Sep 5th, 2006 11:37:08 PM
What an... inexplicable "review." http://tinyurl.com/es5a2
Elmore Rigby by brokebackcowboy	Sep 5th, 2006 11:37:40 PM
That was fun dude ...
brokebackcowboy by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 5th, 2006 11:40:25 PM
What a caffeine whore. Take it over to the Megatron TB. I'm sure the guys would love the extra posts on the tally.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = MOCHA FRAP AT 11:30PM by brokebackcowboy	Sep 5th, 2006 11:41:52 PM

Venti too ... woooooohooooooo!!!!! by brokebackcowboy	Sep 5th, 2006 11:43:13 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = MICHAEL JORDAN WEARING #45 by Elmore Rigby	Sep 5th, 2006 11:48:10 PM
instead of #23
Did anyone answer that ad about Bush? by brokebackcowboy	Sep 5th, 2006 11:50:00 PM
I clicked NO and got a free dinner at the Olive Garden!!! WWWWEEEEEEEE!!!!
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = KEN LAY IS NOT DEAD by brokebackcowboy	Sep 5th, 2006 11:51:19 PM
He's hiding in Crawford, TX!!!
Complaining about Flames=Chronic Masterbatur by ganymede2010	Sep 5th, 2006 11:51:19 PM
Believe it!
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = WHEN YOU WANNA WACK OFF by brokebackcowboy	Sep 5th, 2006 11:52:45 PM
AND ALL YOU GOT IS GRANNY PORN. Donny Two Chins sleeps with the fishes.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = FIRST 90 MINUTES OF KING KONG by brokebackcowboy	Sep 5th, 2006 11:55:30 PM

Flux HA HA . You're giving Sean Hannity to much credit! by ganymede2010	Sep 5th, 2006 11:56:03 PM
Hannity is more like the oily grease lubricating the gyrating quantam couplings inside of Primes exo-colon!
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = JAKE LLOYD AS FUTURE DARTH VADER by brokebackcowboy	Sep 5th, 2006 11:57:18 PM

Hey AICN guys by brokebackcowboy	Sep 5th, 2006 11:58:43 PM
Can we get a separate FLAME ON OPTIMUS TB?
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = 2006 VMA AWARDS by brokebackcowboy	Sep 6th, 2006 12:03:16 AM

Why go anywhere else. This thread has been Hijacked! by ganymede2010	Sep 6th, 2006 12:03:33 AM
By the Flame whinners!!! WAHHHHHHHHHHH WAHHHHHHHHH MOMMY I WANT NO FLAMES WAHHHHHHH
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = PARIS HILTON SINGING by brokebackcowboy	Sep 6th, 2006 12:04:41 AM
Oh Jesus, why have you forsaken us?
I'm not hijacking this thread Gany by brokebackcowboy	Sep 6th, 2006 12:06:02 AM
I'm exercising my first amendment rights, biotch.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = MAKE-UP ON GANYMEDE by brokebackcowboy	Sep 6th, 2006 12:07:52 AM
Bitch you need an extreme makeover!!!
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = DOUBLE DRAGON ON YOUR RESUME by brokebackcowboy	Sep 6th, 2006 12:09:27 AM
Donny Two Chins you need to omit that little factoid if you expect to be successful.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = DEMON DAVE MAKING A MOVIE by brokebackcowboy	Sep 6th, 2006 12:10:58 AM
Some things should never come to pass.
Optimus Prime is a flaming queer!!!!!!!!!! by Cotton McKnight	Sep 6th, 2006 12:11:46 AM
Look at that picture and search your feelings. You KNOW this to be true.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = SOPHIA COPPOLA IN GODFATHER 3 by brokebackcowboy	Sep 6th, 2006 12:13:24 AM

Brokeback Prime by Cotton McKnight	Sep 6th, 2006 12:13:36 AM
Optimus and Megatron making love on a mountain in Wyoming. Wild, wacky stuff.
Brokeback, I wan't attacking you Bro! by ganymede2010	Sep 6th, 2006 12:14:12 AM
I've been laughing my ass off reading your posts. Keepem comming. The flames look awesome to me though:)
Okay I think the caffeine is wearing off ... by brokebackcowboy	Sep 6th, 2006 12:14:41 AM
I never even watched Transformers for cripes sake ....
Two words: Butt Ugly. by superninja	Sep 6th, 2006 12:14:47 AM
Congrats, dilberts. The more we see, the uglier it gets. Great marketing work!
Funny, brokeback. by superninja	Sep 6th, 2006 12:16:53 AM

Cotton by brokebackcowboy	Sep 6th, 2006 12:17:58 AM
HEHEE Optimus Prime's dick gets shredded by Megatron's spiny ass! BWWAHAHAHAHHAAA!! Robots need love too you know. I:Robot kicked ass. Someone give Alex Proyas more work.
And nothing can save that horrible script. by superninja	Sep 6th, 2006 12:18:13 AM
Truly, the designs reflect that turd of a script.
Ganymede by brokebackcowboy	Sep 6th, 2006 12:19:12 AM
I'm sorry. You're not a biotch and you don't need an extreme makeover. Are you hot? Can you send me a pic?
Hi. Just change the name of the movie, by superninja	Sep 6th, 2006 12:20:29 AM
remove all references to Transformers, and we'll call things square.
How many apologist that think G1's "blocky" by Phategod2	Sep 6th, 2006 12:21:39 AM
designs would not work, would have shit to say if they went with a traditional design? IF prime and megs looked like prime all the Ganymede's and Allseeingeyes of the world would shut the hell up We would all say that looks cool Bay's is getting it done right and there would be a total of about 100 post instead we get shit ball on top of shit ball and we get these Apologist who will pay to see anything slightly resembling Transformers becaused there either hard pressed for a TF movie, they want to see a Macross movie and they think this is the only way to start that trend, or just want to see the next "Mike-bay-blow-shit-up-movie" next summer I implore you to demand more from hollywood, demand more for your $8-$10. This movie is a big slap in the face of the G1 transformers cartoon, And if you honestly thought Electra, and catwoman sucked then how can you enjoy this.
Nelson at M. Bay's Blog Strikes Again! by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 6th, 2006 12:23:27 AM
Regarding the "leaked" images - quote: "I spoke with him (Bay) today and he mentioned something that caught me off guard in regards to the design and functionality of both the Deceptiocons and Autobots. I was silent for about 5 seconds after his statement....until he asked me if I was still on the phone. I'm was left thinking...WTF??? Really? "How...". He had just thrown one at me from left field. I said, "really?....but don't they...". "You won't know until you see the movie" he said. So...those drawings are a shadow of the final product. AND "What i meant to say was these are not movie renderings, as opposed to some 3D off the shelf software." *** Regarding the script - quote: "This once again reminds me how old are these scripts people claim they have. If someone truly had the "current" shooting script, people would be leaking massive details not found in the old scripts." AND "The 2/28/06 script was much older than the actual altered date on it." I think Roberto Orci was right on when he kiddingly said "you guys don't know what you're talking about."
Phategod2 here's my Challenge to you sir! by ganymede2010	Sep 6th, 2006 12:24:50 AM
Find me one, just one, of those amatuer G-1, Homemade animations where the blocky desigs walk. Not taking one step, I mean walking. Everyone I seen shows them Transform and they just stand there. If you show me one, then I'm sold.
Link it here: by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 6th, 2006 12:25:12 AM
http://tinyurl.com/hh8op
The reason why they should stick with the G1 by brokebackcowboy	Sep 6th, 2006 12:25:36 AM
designs is because when the robots are in disguise, they look like trucks, guns, boomboxes, what have you. Ordinary things. But when they transform, they need to have the PERSONALITY AND CHARACTER of the robots they really are, not have all the truck parts like tires and mufflers and transmissions showing. At that point the fact that they are just machines stands out too much to the audience, and they cannot convey their personalities. How is that, Phatgod? I never watched TF but I remember the characters alright.
The overly busy and I-am-squishing-your-head by superninja	Sep 6th, 2006 12:26:09 AM
helmet design is bad enough, but then you remove his face place and that is baboon butt ugly! Oh, this is now becoming comical.
Phate, this won't be Elektra bad... by ganymede2010	Sep 6th, 2006 12:27:32 AM
Rather you like the designs or not. The action will be unparalled. And you know it.
um, here you go Gany: by superninja	Sep 6th, 2006 12:28:02 AM
http://www.audiobots.net/
Obviously they could be much better, by superninja	Sep 6th, 2006 12:32:03 AM
but they demonstrate that you can get a range of motion with the blockier shapes and also cheat on a Transformation (not be so literal) and still have it look cool.
why don't blocks work in 3D by slappy jones	Sep 6th, 2006 12:39:29 AM
I don;t understand that argument? people keep saying "oh blocky looking robots wouldn't work in live action 3D photoreal cg" why not?? here is the new theme song.I want transformers not Overly Complicated Changebots. I will only refer to them as that from now on.
Darth_Baltar by Fernwick_	Sep 6th, 2006 12:44:58 AM
Piss on you Firefly hater. Now, just to clarify, if Jessica Alba had a zit on her ass I would be the luckiest man on earth to be able to suck the puss out of it (as long as I got laid afta) :) Fernwick www.theidiottestament.com
Best amatuer vid I've seen Superninja! by ganymede2010	Sep 6th, 2006 12:51:58 AM
But understand, those blocky designs would translate horribly in a real world enviorment. The Anmimation is sick though. I'm going to save this video. So when the trailer comes out and we see how a "real world" Transformer moves. I'll be posting this video to remind of how amazing Bay/ILM really are;) And how this vid pales in comparision. But Starscream still sucks ballz though. You won't see me defend that piece of shit. But I'm defending Megs,Prime, and Bays other translations until the bitter end. You guys don't understnad how awesome this film is going to be. This will the be Trilogy to dethrone LOTR/Spiderman/X-men. Because the Transformers is the best science fiction saga ever told. It was Starwars until Lucas jugg fucked it.
Nelson at Bay's Site by Playhouse	Sep 6th, 2006 12:53:34 AM
That just stinks of cover-up and misdirection. No, sir. I would not be surprised to find out that the script - with some names changed and a few inconsequential bits (aka the Flaming Furbies) added - is nearly note and word perfect to what we've read and these leaked designs are far closer to final than they are trying to play off. Seriously, it sounds like a kid who just got busted in a lie. "No, man, that's the old stuff. No, really. Seriously. You've gotta see the new stuff. It so kicks the other stuff's ass. And it's way different. I mean, you just don't even know...." And as for the transformations, I just worry that it's going to be that sloppy gobbledegook they used to "transform" the movie title in the teaser trailer. That's how they're going to explain that their shit is all over the place now.
Even if they do change the dialogue, it's by superninja	Sep 6th, 2006 12:57:05 AM
still the same crappy plot that is a mess with cliched characters. The scenes they were filming in Downtown LA follow the script exactly! Even the character arcs from Quint's visit.
You can't polish a turd, gany. by superninja	Sep 6th, 2006 12:58:32 AM
And that script is a floater! :D
gany by blackwood	Sep 6th, 2006 01:01:43 AM
It's jugg "fuckled", and you're a damn spy.
The leaked script was awfully short though by ganymede2010	Sep 6th, 2006 01:11:08 AM
You know Bay likes to shoot long friggin movies. And that script was way to short to be the final draft. But there's a positive to all the negative fan reaction. That will make Bay/ILM work that much harder to prove that they have a solid product.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = VAGINAL FARTS by brokebackcowboy	Sep 6th, 2006 01:13:51 AM
It ruins the mood like a wrecking ball!!
JThomasC - You're My Frikkin' Hero!! by -=Shin=-	Sep 6th, 2006 01:18:32 AM
Really, I think you summed up my feelings perfectly.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = GIADA DELAURENTIIS WITH A YEAST by brokebackcowboy	Sep 6th, 2006 01:21:07 AM
INFECTION.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = AICN DATABASE UPGRADE by brokebackcowboy	Sep 6th, 2006 01:23:41 AM
Did u guys outsource to India or something?!?!
The girls' crotch was so haggard... by DOGSOUP	Sep 6th, 2006 01:23:46 AM
...it looked like Megatron smiling.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = FIRST TIME YOU GOT CAUGHT MASTURBAT by brokebackcowboy	Sep 6th, 2006 01:26:17 AM
ING BY YOUR MOTHER. Search your feelings. You know, don't you?
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS= HARRY TAKING NEPHEW TO R-RATED MOVIE by Elmore Rigby	Sep 6th, 2006 01:29:23 AM

Blackwood I wish I was a spy by ganymede2010	Sep 6th, 2006 01:34:37 AM
Then I'd actually get paid for waisting my time trolling internet forums.
This is so sad... by cerebulon	Sep 6th, 2006 01:55:11 AM
If Sam Raimi had done to Spiderman, what Michael Bay is doing to the Transformers, Spider-Man would have been a black kid named Devon Jackson who turned into a werehyena whenever there was a half moon.
NO SOUNDWAVE=FLAMES ON OPTIMUS by DOGSOUP	Sep 6th, 2006 02:05:57 AM

Maybe they will make the eyes glow? by General_Mortimer	Sep 6th, 2006 02:15:24 AM
All the TFs we've seen so far have awful eyes, so maybe they will be lights in the finished models? Just a thought.
Who wants to make a bet? by Knightsong	Sep 6th, 2006 02:20:22 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = MICHAEL BAY DIRECTING TRANSFORMERS by Dead-Kid	Sep 6th, 2006 02:20:38 AM
Oh... too late :(
Ofcourse the eyes will glow! by ganymede2010	Sep 6th, 2006 02:22:17 AM
That's why I'm sure these are early renderings. The final product is going to showcase the glowing eyes. That's the perfect way to elict emotions from a robot on film. As it did in the Cartoon.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=SLEDGE HAMMER ON UNITED 93 by Mr Clarke	Sep 6th, 2006 02:22:33 AM
Why would you do that?
Devon Jackson? Werehyena?? by Dead-Kid	Sep 6th, 2006 02:23:29 AM
That's comic book fried gold!!! I'm securing the rights and drawing that mutha right now!
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = HARRY'S BLADE 2 REVIEW by Kampbell-Kid	Sep 6th, 2006 02:23:42 AM
After a year of stroking the clitoris/Hollywood hype machine, Micheal Bay's vaginal discharge in 2007 will be the biggest cocaine/viagra induced pyrotechnic orgasm ever seen on the silver screen. You all know Optimus Prime's flames make him the sexiest tomboy beanpole on the planet.
Who wants to make a bet? by Knightsong	Sep 6th, 2006 02:24:10 AM
Who wants to bet that once the film is out, or close to its release, it will be revealed that the "Robots in Disguise" will actually turn out to be alien beings inside of robots. Here's my idea: When the atmosphere of Mars began to fail, the indiginous alien species there had to find a way to survive so they placed their bodies, organs, or whatever inside of giant robots that could sustain them. Any takers?
Here's the Problem... by ckone	Sep 6th, 2006 02:25:37 AM
So,Bay and co. are actually reading some of these talkbacks, and I hope that is true. But, when every other one is littered with "this movie is shit" kind of talk, the REAL Critique gets lost. We need to explain to them that, the need to have Optimus look LIKE Optimus, outweighs the need to have him be as REAL as possible. After all, this is a movie about ALIEN robots that crash land on earth and then TRANSFORM into CARS and TRUCKS and PLANES and TAPE DECKS!! I think my suspension of disbelief has already been placed on the highest setting,I have fond memories of Transformers when I was growing up, And Optimus WAS THE SHIT. G-1 Optimus. He doesn't NEED flames. I keep looking at the design and say to myself, I don't mind the robotechiness..but the flames just keep sticking out as a bad bad choice. That's the thing, I don't mind if they toy with the design a bit, but how come you gotta mess with such a simple design so much that he doesn't even LOOK like Optimus. I mean, he doesn't, aside from him being red and blue, and having a shield mask type thing. Other than that , he doesn't LOOK like Optimus. You should be able to look at that pic, and feel like you are 12 again. Instead, I look and go, eh..I guess it will look cool when it moves..but the flames are lame, they just are. The over abundance of tech-y-ness is a bit over the top for me, but I could live with that, if the paint job was right. It just doesn't make sense. It's like a story I remember reading, about Nic Cage, when he showed his kid an image of Tim Burtons Superman costume, he goes "look it's Superman" and the kid goes "no it's not, Superman wears red and blue and has a cape, that's not Superman, and where's his underwear?" (these aren't exact quouted mind you, just a retelling of something I read a while back). But the point is this, if I have to struggle to see Optimus in that pic, then the job just isn't getting done. Another thing also,especially from these talkbacks, is when people are excited about something, you see it here, but when they aren't or if the overwhelming feeling is negative, then we get a festering pool of hate posts, but I can't blame these guys. It just doesn't say Optimus, Bay and co, C'mon, give us Optimus PRIME! You still have the time, I'm betting that there is a G-1 version of him that you guys already made...just sitting there in your computer somewhere, that's the one we want. You have no idea how powerful that image would be to this movie. You HAVE to Get Prime right, as much as you need Bumblebee to emote, you need Prime to be PRIME. Fuck with Megatron all you want, shit make him and evil toaster! but give us OPTIMUS PRIME! I'm kidding about the toaster thing by the way.
Sorry, but this is just plain bad, wrong AND stupid. by Primus	Sep 6th, 2006 02:38:12 AM
It isn't Optimus - nuff said.
"Heh... nice flames." :-/ by Kampbell-Kid	Sep 6th, 2006 02:39:13 AM
Bay apparently added this to the script to wink at the fanboy appreciation for this project.
oh dear by Fortunesfool	Sep 6th, 2006 02:43:41 AM
Ironically it looks messy and makes no visual sense. Just like Michael Bays movies. My eye doesnt land on any one part of it. What a mess
Well by Ridge	Sep 6th, 2006 03:07:31 AM
Ive been keeping hope for a long time for this movie, and I guess I still will, but to quote the horse from Ren and Stimpy... "No Sir, I dont like it, I dont like it at all." The head looks STUPID. He looks like a god damn APE!
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE EMAIL ME THE SCRIPT OR A LINK? by Cameron1	Sep 6th, 2006 03:46:30 AM
popculturekid@hotmail.co.uk ____ Thank you very much.
I rescind what I said about liking this by Lost Prophet	Sep 6th, 2006 04:42:23 AM
because I don't. My problems with this film do not relate to the designs. They all stem from that god-awful rejected for Herbie script, but were heightened when I read the quint interview with that drug addled little turd that has creative control despite owning up to "finding it hard to imagine shit". i couldn't give less of a toss about flames on optimus, but I understand why people do. BTW FLAMES ON OPTIMUS= KID IN SUPERMAN RETURNS
This is wrong. Check this out.... by LittleDudes	Sep 6th, 2006 04:44:10 AM
They fucked it up! http://www.little-dudes.co.nz/ comics-13
Best. Photoshop. Ever. by LittleDudes	Sep 6th, 2006 05:13:33 AM
http://img152.imageshack.us/im g152/5598/littlebayvi4.jpg
"And when you are done with those flames... by AGE IIX	Sep 6th, 2006 05:14:11 AM
...I want you to give him a pair of mongoloid eyes and some big as baboon nostrils" AAAGGHH!!! I CAN'T GET MY HEAD AROUND WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE? You know what... I am so glad that can't RAPE Soundwave and Wheeljack...maybe in part 2.
How many polygons!? by tompbeast	Sep 6th, 2006 05:44:45 AM
That's a fucking cool robot! and what's wrong with the flames? I've only watched a few Transformer cartoon mainly to see what all the fanboy moaning is about and I've got to say I'd rather watch that thing stomping around that a few wobbly pencil lines.
Question by Pandas-R-Us	Sep 6th, 2006 05:50:11 AM
When all this Transformers stuff started getting leaked I was really surprised at how much debate and interest it generated, and how strong peoples' reactions have been. I live in Britain and I can't remember Transformers generating anywhere near the love that a lot of you guys seem to have for it. Some people had the toys when I was a kid, and they were very popular at one time but I can't even remember the cartoon apart from having seen episodes of it within the last year or two. For a lot of you guys it seems to have been a major part of your lives. I know that most people I know of about my age wouldn't care in the slightest that the designs had been changed. In fact most of them don't seem to clearly remember what Optimus even looked like and certainly not any of the other characters. So, I was just wondering if any other Brits could tell me, was it that big over here and my town was an exception or was it just never such a big thing in the UK? I'm not putting you guys in the US down for complaining, I know I would be very upset if something iconic from my childhood was changed, I'm just interested how much bigger a phenomenon it seems to have been over there.
the flames by Lost Prophet	Sep 6th, 2006 05:57:56 AM
as I said, tompbeast, they don't particularly bother me. However, I uderstand why people are upset. Imagine if Superman were given a new costume. They decided to base it on the classic one that everyone recognised as they wanted to tie it in to the property. Having seen this, they then decide that it isn't jazzy enough so keep the same underpants outside his tights deal, but change the colour scheme to Flashier more extreme colours, and equipped him with a pair of aviator sunglasses. Yes, if you look at it, it is still recognisable as superman, but it is also intrinsically wrong. It tries to improve upon an iconic image, and therefore defaces the icon. The same applies here. Hope that was clear
It wasn't anywhere near as big here. by Lost Prophet	Sep 6th, 2006 05:59:42 AM
I remember it well, but don't remember the cartoon. My problems with it are that it is a piss poor script directed by the man that made Pearl Necklace and I really do not want a repeat of this summer's tepid offerings next summer. This will be shit, and there is enough shit on the screen already.
Transformers was pretty big in Australia too by messi	Sep 6th, 2006 06:01:34 AM
Optimus, Megatron, Starscream, Soundwave and Bumblebee are all 'iconic' characters that people remember. and alot of mainstream just grew up with G1 fans which is just about everybody(the other incarnations were not so successful in Aus) are not happy with Megatron and the flames on Optimus.
The flames suck because by messi	Sep 6th, 2006 06:02:53 AM
it is a blatant example of Bay trying to dumb the movie down for lowest common denominator people. It is just for attraction, 'to highlight his midsection' what a bunch of lies. And it reflects on the rest of the movie.
that's basically what I was trying to get across by Lost Prophet	Sep 6th, 2006 06:09:29 AM
pointless, unnecessary and distracting- a pretty accurate description of Michael Bay. BTW, Transformers were big here, just not as big as in America.
Transformers was Huge in HOLLAND! by AGE IIX	Sep 6th, 2006 06:44:52 AM
Atleast everybody that had SKY. I would get up at 06:00 in the moring to watch FUN FACTORY (saturday moring cartoon heaven!) and at 11 TRANSFORMERS began and it BLEW MY MIND! to me the concept of robots transforming in to everyday objects was the coolest thing EVER! Go to any 25 year old and over and ask them to do the voice of the blue cassetplayer and they can do it...
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = "WAHHHH" + "MOM'S BASEMENT INSULTS" by foree forehead	Sep 6th, 2006 06:45:21 AM
they do
Even by SnakesOnABicycle	Sep 6th, 2006 07:00:30 AM
if Bay or Murphy or the flacks and execs see all this negativity, and even if they aren't dillusional to ignore it as just fanboy whining, they are still going to look at the number of posts, and amount of passion generated by this shit, and be happy as fuck, knowing that a long, gigantic talkback, negative or positive, is better than a short, uninterested one. The only way they'll be affected is if you don't open your wallet up to this come summer 2007. Any thought of putting fear into them for the piece of shit they're creating is going to go in one ear and out the other... I mean, these are the fucking idiots who came up with this design in the first place, what makes you think they'd be smart enough to change it, even in the face of the shitstorm we're giving them?
General Grievous is back! by masterchappy	Sep 6th, 2006 07:01:39 AM
The Star Wars Transformers are going to duke it out with those faggoty Bay Transformers in a battle to the poo-doo death. Oh my! The drama. The action. The explosions. Dane Cook? My asshole drips bloody fecal matter like a faucet dripping water. Please 'Hollywood', shove a cattle prod up my ass next time and spark that fucker up instead to cook my insides. SHAMEFUL. (and yah - I dare you fuckers to make those things into fully functioning TRANSFORMING toys.)
Bay doesn't care about nostalgia for geeks by board shitlez	Sep 6th, 2006 07:02:59 AM
because the core audience of this film will be younger than you - and they want a cool truck - not a small red one from the 80s. Do you really think your misty eyed whining is going to affect the decisions made here?
It's..... by GRRRR	Sep 6th, 2006 07:24:54 AM
...grrrrreat!!! I personally can't see the big fuss over this movie. It's like SOAP in reverse. But I guess if they made Spidey's suit pink and put flames on it I would also be pissed... The thing is it was a cartoon, like 25 years ago. Maybe I was just to young thats why I can't get so worked up. But the talkbacks are still fun to read so please, continiue!
Plus... by GRRRR	Sep 6th, 2006 07:30:30 AM
...the whole concept was based on toys. I'm pretty sure 99% of the new toys will be bought by kids. That's why they are aiming it to a new market. Hence the changes. Would anybody under 15 know what a tape deck is????? F-15 was (IS) cool back then but nowadays there are more modern planes. I have a feeling my head is going to be ripped off....
I am getting a bit sick of explaining this by Lost Prophet	Sep 6th, 2006 07:36:34 AM
but once more (with feeling) just for knowthyself. I (and I presume everyone else) are well aware that the Geek audience is not stronge enough to (sadly) sink this stinking fucking film. However, lots of people that post here go to see films at full price on multiple occasions. There was even some sad cunt that paid to see that turgid pile of excreta Superman Returns 20 times. People that are fans of transformers would also have bought the DVD- including the double/triple dipping special editions, and the toys that go with it. Therefore, it is incompetence on a huge scale to eliminate a source of revenue when a compromise was so easily attainable. How fucking hard is it to not paint flames on an iconic figure? The other points relate to the behaviour of the likes of murphy, the downright lies, and the general hurt and contempt that people with a strong emotional attachment to the property feel. None of this makes a blind bit of difference to you apologists- you always come out with the same "Well fuck you- it doesn't need your cash" line. True, it doesn't need it, but that is not to say they don't want it. The other apologist arguments (we haven't seen it, realism, BIG ROBOTS GO BANG BANG, etc) are also easily despatched. For the record- 1) realism, just doesn't wash the whole film is about alien robots. 2) true, we haven't seen it- but after that interview with that nauseating little cretin I have seen enough, 3) BANG BANG is horseshit on the basis that the produciton staff have repeatedly said it is a film about that little turd getting his first car. It just is depressing that the fans opinions make no difference at all. I hope nonsensical and the rest of them create a brilliant film that stays true to their vision so best of luck.
Lost Prophet-thx again by tile_mcgillus	Sep 6th, 2006 07:51:21 AM
Do you think we could just copy and paste that about every 20 posts so these BANG BOOM fellas stop showing up and spouting their bullshit.
maybe I should by Lost Prophet	Sep 6th, 2006 07:53:54 AM
and I missed out loads of the minor arguments.
does anyone even care? by ZO	Sep 6th, 2006 07:55:08 AM
this may be the lamest project in years
art! by foree forehead	Sep 6th, 2006 07:59:44 AM
i love it when people come on here and claim to know what is and what is not art. art, hahaha, ffs.
And bonehead post of the day goes to: by Lost Prophet	Sep 6th, 2006 08:01:00 AM
ZO. Loads of people care- take a look at the numbers of posts in these TB"s. Personally, I wasn't a fan- but I hate to see some people's pet fan topic get abused. I am also sick to death of sub-standard shit being pushed on to screen to be gleefully lapped up by the likes of googamooga which results in us getting summer releases like we got this year. I want some quality, and I want people's favourite properties to be respected. The two are not necessarily seperate.
ZO by BLWiseass	Sep 6th, 2006 08:09:19 AM
yes lots of people do care, and it COULD have been one of the coolest big budget summer movies of all time, but it appears that pretty much every single production decision was botched. Oh and lost prophet, well said. I can't see how the masses of 12 year olds will be MORE interested in Prime with flames, but it is clearly evident that those of us who grew up on G1 are putt off by the terrible paint job. Here's hoping Bay and Murphy stop being arrogant assholes and correct a mistake or two. That being said, it seems as if the project is beyond saving. The project went from being "transformers" to a story about a boy getting his first car. What. The. Fuck.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = TOM CRUISE AS AUSTIN POWERS by BRUTICUS	Sep 6th, 2006 08:10:47 AM
my 2 cents :)
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = SHOWGIRLS by brokebackcowboy	Sep 6th, 2006 08:18:37 AM
How do you make naked women unsexy?
FLAMES ON TOPIMUS = by brokebackcowboy	Sep 6th, 2006 08:27:14 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = KEVIN FEDERLINE'S CAREER by brokebackcowboy	Sep 6th, 2006 08:31:22 AM

His eyes suck by HollyW00d	Sep 6th, 2006 08:33:43 AM
the eyes need to go
Believing This Will Make Money by Playhouse	Sep 6th, 2006 08:37:07 AM
I love this belief that this movie is going to make gobs of money. I just don't see it. People will show up to see it the first weekend and then it will drop like a stone afterwards. While there is certainly a lot of hubbub from the geek community over this (and it's a lot larger than most of the tsk-tskers are giving it credit for), the reactions of many in the general public who caught the teaser trailer indicate that this isn't the next great American film. People were ho-hum, people weren't paying any attention, and worst of all, there were plenty who were outright laughing. I'm a fan but let's face reality. This concept had an uphill battle to really attract an audience to begin with. Now that they are making what, from all accounts, appears to be a mediocre film with lots of explosions - on the belief that the audience is going to eat it up because it's "giant fucking robots fighting" each other - they've resigned this film to one of many underperformers I'm sure we are set to see next year and next summer particularly.
What's Sad (Thoughts Cont.) by Playhouse	Sep 6th, 2006 08:38:44 AM
What's sad is they could've made such a great film from the concept if they hadn't settled for the Lowest Common Denominator. They could've made something that had legs and drawing power. I know people probably hate to see this example but take a look at Lord of the Rings. Talk about your big geek project. They knew they had that audience. What hooked everyone else in was that the films were quality. It was the perfect balance of what the geeks wanted and needed out of films and being accessible to the general public. Transformers could've been exactly the same. Yet they decided to piss off the geeks and decided to make yet another middling blow-'em-up action film for the masses. This will do fair its opening weekend (especially being the holiday) but people will tune out afterward.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = PARIS HILTON SINGING by tile_mcgillus	Sep 6th, 2006 08:39:04 AM
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = CATWOMAN"S COSTUME: FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = LXG: FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = BACKSTREET BOYS'S VIDEO CATALOG: FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = FLOCK OF SEAGULLS HAIR: FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = FAMILY RESTUARANT BUFFETT: FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = SPIDER CLONE: FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = DARTH VADER SCREAM.....man this could just go on and on
Playhouse, you're right by tile_mcgillus	Sep 6th, 2006 08:47:26 AM
This has became the quintessential example of squandered potential.
If you guys have negative/postive things to say... by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 6th, 2006 08:47:40 AM
...and you want to be heard, I would recommend you start to post on the official movie website's message board. They have two sections purely devoted to Rants and Raves. So far, it looks like there are more Rant threads...
Why not just call them "The Molesticons" ? by Ricky Henderson	Sep 6th, 2006 08:51:15 AM
That's pretty much what's going down here...
I agree playhouse by Lost Prophet	Sep 6th, 2006 08:52:28 AM
about huge swathes of the public finding the concept laughable. However, they are obviously aiming at the teen market so fuck the rest. There are (sadly) massive amounts of people (googamooga, deadlegend, ganymede et al) that think a Michael Bay film with BIG ROBOT GO BANG BANG "Fuuukin' RAWKS" and they will go and see it. No-one can seriously delude themselves that the Geek Market can sink a film, as it obviously can't. However, it can be a useful tool to create a positive buzz. The gross incompetence on every level of this film (from marketing/ PR, writing, direction, acting, production, design) is absolutely astounding. I am just shaking my head in disbelief that these fuckers all seem to be able to hang on to highly desirable jobs. It is unbelievable.
mng by tile_mcgillus	Sep 6th, 2006 09:00:45 AM
Can you give me a direct link to the message boards, I am at work and can't access flash sites.
Transformers will set an example: Don't f*ck w/fans. by GibsonUSA	Sep 6th, 2006 09:09:04 AM
Transformers, it seems, will be "THE EXAMPLE." Movie studios and those in the business don't seem to learn by warning. They learn by example. Batman & Robin is an example of what happens when you mess with a good thing. Transformers 2007 will be the example of what happens when you mess with its fans. It will be the example of what happens when you take a long term and beloved franchise, and arrogantly turn on its fans while feeling invincible...feeling as if a blockbuster is guaranteed. I am a Michael Bay fan and Don Murphy honestly seems like a decent guy, but by what has gone on so far it looks like the studio feels it doesnt need to cater to the fans AT ALL, or respect franchise standards whatsoever. They seem to think that when the trailers/commercials hit with all their special effects, explosions, and rock music, all will be forgiven. Transformers 2007 will be an interesting case study for future students of the industry on what happens when a studio arrogantly kills a franchise's image then and spits on its fans. I have never seen this before...usually a studio making a comic book movie will do what it takes to maintain good relations with the comic's fans and respect franchise standards. Here, they are basically telling Transfans to shove it. I believe they have underestimated our power. Transfans are HUGE HUGE in number and now have TEN months to tell everyone they know, online and off, to reject this movie. Not to mention all the sleeping fans who will be in shock when they see Megatron for the first time next July. Transformers 2007 will be THE EXAMPLE......why did it have to be The Transformers, though? :(
tile_mcgillus by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 6th, 2006 09:16:00 AM
Likewise. However, I took a look at their messageboard last night and I've got to say, the opinions being expressed there are identical to what's been said here and other places. I'm convinced the production is aware of this "firestorm". What they choose to do about it is anyone's guess. Yet I can't shake the feeling that they know something we don't know...
Here you go, tile_mcgillus by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 6th, 2006 09:19:23 AM
I did a Google for the boards and was able to find the direct link. This should bypass the Flash. --- http://boards.transformersmovi e.com/index.php
MNG by Lost Prophet	Sep 6th, 2006 09:30:08 AM
I disagree, they don't know anthing. They are just so convinced that they are right they don't care. Cheers for the link.
Thx Mr. Nice Gaius! by tile_mcgillus	Sep 6th, 2006 09:31:05 AM
works perfectly.
I'd go one step further concerning these apologists by Ricky Henderson	Sep 6th, 2006 09:31:54 AM
I'd call them appeasers. Yes, appeasers. Bear with me, here's where I'm gonna get a tab bombastic... Much like Neville Chamberlain feebly bowing down to the rise of fascism, so do people like Ganymede, et al., grovel at the feet of the movie industry. The lap up whatever they are given and ask for seconds, no questions asked. They lack the spine to stand up to something when things are clearly wrong. They mask their cowardly behavior with spite towards those who genuinely care enough to say something about it. Make no mistake, the entire movie industry is in a state of decline. People who are tired of being subjected to movies that are designed to appease the lowest common denominator are perfectly within their rights to say so. If I don't want to watch a movie tested and marketed for pimply 13 year olds, then goddamnit, I'm gonna speak up. The entire Snakes on a Plane debacle taught us that hollywood will listen to the fans. Unfortunately, the movie didn't make much money, so that begs the question of wether or not hollywood will listen to the fans in the future. Reguardless, I'm fairly certain that appeasers like Ganymede, et al., are making the situation worse by contributing nothing but their own blind desires to accept the status quo.
I love it! by magnius	Sep 6th, 2006 09:32:52 AM
I still love the new look...and it is growing on me more every time i see it. Fair enough megatron is a bit shit...but the rest look great!!
I don't know by BatCountry	Sep 6th, 2006 09:33:22 AM
Looks kind of cool to me.
If you want to see Transformers still... by DonkeyBalls	Sep 6th, 2006 09:33:41 AM
...get a bib, you're retarded
and with that from Ricky by Lost Prophet	Sep 6th, 2006 09:36:46 AM
3 of them crawl out of the woodwork. Thanks for the input guys. I'm glad you three are selfconfident enough to be part of the idiot lowest common denominator this film is aimed at. You keep Bay in coke. Thanks again, sincerely, thanks.
I still get a kick out of the word "apologist" being... by Childe Roland	Sep 6th, 2006 09:40:09 AM
...thrown around in reference to anyone who refuses to hate on this movie. It's way early for that kind of insecure accusation. Sure, this movie could end up sucking balls. But you guys who spit venom and froth about the absolute, unavoidable certainty of that make me laugh. It's like someone broke open moviemack's egg sac and a thousand little creatures predestined to hate came pouring out, fingers in their ears, screaming "It's not the way I want it so it's going to be the worst thing ever!" Most people look back on moviemack's pre-Batman Begins rants (all based on an early draft of the script, a few out-of-context images and his precious memories of a very specific iteration of Batman's mythos, by the way) and think he was a pretty silly fucker. Just some food for thought. Personally, I'm amazed that Harry hasn't weighed in with his pre-hate for this picture, and I applaud him for it. Now when he comes out and writes a review of it, I will be far more inclined to take him seriously (unless the movie does end up sucking balls and he writes some glowing fan letter, in which case we'll know what's up). Point being, I've seen and heard things so far about this movie. Some -- like the Shia LeBouf interview and the images of Megatron and Starscream -- have made me nervous. Some -- like the images of Bumblebee and the more recent (than these dated pics) images of Prime -- have me excited and cautiously optimistic. I haven't read the script and I won't (because, as I said in another TF talkback, a script doesn't always give you the sense of the completed film -- just look at Tarantino's work). Between all of the as-yet unknowns and the inherent illogic of G1 purists (who seem determined not to acknowledge that any other legitimate versions of these beloved characters have ever existed), I just can't understand how it makes sense to hate this movie already. Adopting a wait and see attitude is a win-win. If it sucks, you get to be all righteously pissed and will likely hear more cries of "Amen!" after your rants than repeated pointings to the obvious fact that you can't possibly have any idea what you're talking about yet. And if the movie ends up being decent, you get to be pleasantly surprised. I'm not asking you to drink the Kool Aid or anything, guys. I'm advocating a reasoned approach to judging a film based on (and I know this is going to be tough to wrap your brains around) the way that film turns out when finished. If you already know all the pissing and moaning about how you would have preferred things be done isn't going to change the way they are being done, what's the point? I get the feeling some of you actually thrive on the negativity. That's just sad.
CR--"apologist" isnt strong enough "appeaser" is better by Ricky Henderson	Sep 6th, 2006 09:45:30 AM
And yes, I'm going all out and comparing the movie studios to the Third Reich. Damn the torpedos. That's not excessively negative, is it? In all seriousness, I wanted this movie to be good. So did everyone else here. We're not negative, just disillusioned by what could have been.
hmmm, Roland the voice of reason by Lost Prophet	Sep 6th, 2006 09:49:34 AM
If this turns out to be great I will gladly eat humble pie. I have stood down before and will do so again. However, my feelings for it are that it is going to stink. Even taking this reasoned approach, can you see any defence for Murphy and Co's behaviour? the difference is: Moviemack was wrong, and just couldn't admit it. If I am wrong I will say so- like I had to over the Sienna Miller comment the other day. The film I am most excited about is Fierce People. But that doesn't ever seem to be getting a release in the UK. Which makes me far more sad than the Transformers fiasco.
Read this guy's post! by tile_mcgillus	Sep 6th, 2006 09:57:26 AM
Really well worded and thought out: http://tinyurl.com/pl6w7
Lost Prophet by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 6th, 2006 09:58:49 AM
I don't know. That Nelson guy is on the actual inside track. While he may be a smartass and understandably vague at times, he does speak with Bay directly. If Bay, Orci, and Nelson say the February script is oldnews and that these images of Prime (from 2005) are oldnews (including that poster image), I'm inclined to think that there several differences in what we think we know and what we don't. Granted, I'm sure certain plotpoints and design motifs will remain the same. But I can't shake the feeling that something else is going on with this production. And I wish I knew what that was...
That script isn't "old news" by Ricky Henderson	Sep 6th, 2006 10:04:18 AM
Not when you realize that major elements of it are being used in the current scenes they're shooting. Read the Shia LeBeof interview and look at all the images that have been leaked so far. You'll realize that the movie they're shooting is EXACTLY what was in that leaked February, 2006 script. They may change some dialogue, but that will be it.
You can have hope this movie... by Optimus Murphy	Sep 6th, 2006 10:07:44 AM
...might be good, or even RAWK YA CAWK!!!!, but how could you do that unless you completely ignored Hollywood's pathetic track record with A. Sci-fi B. Action Films C. Franchises D. Film Adaptations of C.
Ricky Henderson by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 6th, 2006 10:08:17 AM
I don't think anyone is arguing with you on that point. No one said they threw out that script entirely. We just don't know what's been changed and/or added.
that post was great by Lost Prophet	Sep 6th, 2006 10:10:41 AM
totally depressed in tone, but very articulate if misinformed. For a laugh, read down and an apologist appears- I stopped reading when he showed that he doesn't know what "penultimate means". I was laughing too hard. It is idiocy like that that the film is aimed at. MNG point taken, YB- why so quiet, you are not Bay's biggest fan. Have you been at the catnip again (I am determined to keep this going)?
Valid point MNG... by Ricky Henderson	Sep 6th, 2006 10:10:58 AM
My apologies if I'm getting a little too rabid (I'd rather not become the new moviemack on this issue). Yackbacker had the right idea with his self-imposed exile on all transformers talkbacks...
Childe Roland by tile_mcgillus	Sep 6th, 2006 10:11:37 AM
I completely understand what you are saying. However, a lot of what I have seen so far really sucks. I will see the movie but after the way Don Murphy acted, with such little regard for the fans, I will not pay to see it. I personally want to see it to watch the closest thing to a real life optimus prime speak (with Cullen's voice). Just that thought makes me happy. But to betreated with such disdain is sad when essentially there would be no movie without the avid fans keeping it alive for decades.
"February, 2006 script." by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 6th, 2006 10:13:38 AM
If you read what Nelson stated, THAT script is older than the given date. The opinion of the writers seems to be that if the actual shooting script or key details of it had been leaked, they would have some major problems. Bottom line: they don't seem to concerned with that draft version. Make of that what you will.
Here's what we do know about the plot: by Ricky Henderson	Sep 6th, 2006 10:15:09 AM

Understood, Ricky Henderson... by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 6th, 2006 10:17:47 AM
Like Childe, I'm trying (really hard!) to remain a voice of optimism...or at least reason. Nothing has convinced me one way or the other on this movie. *** Yackbacker, self-imposed exile? You big girl!
Here's what we do know about the plot: by Ricky Henderson	Sep 6th, 2006 10:21:34 AM
damned enter key... anyway, we know the glasses are still in it (shia said so). Megs is still frozen for most of the movie (see the pic of him encased in ice). The climax still takes place in a crowded city street (set reports). The autobots still go to Sam's house to look for the glasses (more leaked pics of them ona yard). There still scenes in the middle east (more of Quint's set reports). So its tough to imagine what major plot changes they're going to make if any. Those are all major set pieces, so not much will be altered from the script to th final print of the film in my opinion.
OMG, you've got to be kidding me! by WacksOnWacksOff	Sep 6th, 2006 10:25:59 AM
The gear on his 3rd left vertebrae is SOOOOO wrong! It's too small, wrong color, and nothing like the original! Is Michael Bay TRYING to piss me off?!!! This movie's gonna suck because of this insignificance!
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = PACINO'S HAIR IN GODFATHER 3 by FuriousStyles	Sep 6th, 2006 10:26:49 AM
now THAT was almost as great a betrayal of the character as Flame's on Prime...............ok, we should be specific with what we want, so here goes.........I want SLAVISH OBEDIENCE to G1 - why? becuase it worked! - it reminds me of my childhood, it encapsulates so much cool 80s stuff eg big blocky robots, vocoder voices, laser guns, space travel, electro sound effects, good vs evil, Star Wars influences beyond belief, it had cool stories written by respected comic book writers, crazy transforming sound effects and the greatest theme song of all time.......I dont want slavish realism - I want good old fashioned high end Sci-Fi Fantasy - just like the Transformers that were popular...............and on that note - why make it for kids today when they dont even like the new Transformers series?..................and sadly, these TF movie designs look more like the new stuff than G1 - so tell me, how can that possibly be a good idea?...............these are not difficult concepts to understand................so far Bay, Spielberg, Murphy, DeSanto - the only thing you've given me (a long time high paying TF fan) is Cullen and the rest is some crap YOU think is better than PROVEN HISTORY..............we all know with Bay making it, its likely to be bad, so it could atleast be source accurate as a consolation prize........we could have had Sin City, but it looks like we're getting Catwoman...........the Dreamwave comics showed how to modernise G1 the right way, but I doubt the team behind the film bothered checking them for research................this movie Prime is rubbish, and worst of all, he's the best looking of the bunch.......my girl took one look and said its like he's got a junk heap stuck to him.........please, any apologist/plant here - I dare you to tell me the new Prime looks cooler than this (and ofcourse it can work on film - movie magic and all that crap)........http://www.seiber tron.com/images/comic/dw_poste r_optimus1.jpg
But that's just it, Yack... by Childe Roland	Sep 6th, 2006 10:28:48 AM
...I don't see anyone really defending the movie. Because there's nothing to defend yet. It's not done and no one's seen it (I swear I made these same exact points to moviemack before Batman Begins came out). I've offered possible rationalizations for some of the creative choices Bay has apparently made, simply because it bothered me to see other people type things like "there's no reason to change that" or "Optimus always looks like this" when those things simply aren't true (I'm kind of a stickler for accuracy in reporting). But, truth be told, I would've preferred to hear that Prime is going to look just like the Masterpiece toy and Megatron was going to be a tank (a gun seemed silly to me in the 80s and it seems even sillier now). However, given that Bay decided to redesign Prime and Megatron (yet again...seriously, both of these characters have had more cosmetic changes done over the years than Joan Rivers), I can't honestly say that I hate the Prime design (the one we see here or the apparently more recent one we saw a few weeks ago). In fact, I think it's kind of cool and am excited to see it all animated and doing its thing with Cullen's voice coming out of it. For this excitement I'm self-delusional? For thinking that experience might make the movie worth seeing I'm an apologist? I guess if thinking that helps you sleep better at night, more power to you. But, then, I don't feel the need to tear down someone else's completely subjective opinion about a facet of a concept neither of us has seen fully realized (putting us in no position to judge it yet) just to make myself more comfortable with my feelings. As for the excellent points raised by Optimus Murphy, you're absolutely right on Hollywood's track record in general. They're spotty in the A. and B. categories. They generally haven't handled their C. films well when it comes to video games and have been extremely hit or miss with comics (making D. kind of a redundant point). Aside from Sin City (an excellent piece of concept art but not a terribly good movie), Hollywood has never 100% faithfully adapted its comic book source material (I'm not absolutely sure, but this may be Hollywood's first foray into basing a movie on a major toy franchise -- which could mean precedent isn't necessarily prescriptive -- but for now we'll treat it like a comic adaptation since there were Transformer comics). But we've still managed to get some decent comic book movie adaptations. Spider Man isn't exactly the same as the one we know from the comics (either his standard or ultimate iterations). Neither were the X-Men (who even haters of X3 tend to agree were decently represented for a while). Batman certainly wasn't exactly like comic book Batman. Even Superman had some liberties taken with his powers in the Donner film(s). But fans (willing to give the new perspectives a chance) generally dug these cinematic interpretations. There've been some serious misfires, no doubt (with some, like Daredevil, adhering pretty closely to the source material and still falling flat), but there is nothing in Hollywood's track record of comic book adaptations that indicates deviation from the source material automatically results in a bad movie or a box office failure.
to think the movie Optimus started so well - check this by FuriousStyles	Sep 6th, 2006 10:32:40 AM
does everyone remember how psyched they were when they saw this.........only makes this new shit sting worse.......http://www.crushco unty.com/con2005/images/Con%20 2005/19_prime.JPG
The best way to show our disdain for this is... by finky089	Sep 6th, 2006 10:43:53 AM
Anyone think that maybe the most significant way the fanbase can really show its disdain for what Bay and co. have done to this property is to do "nothing." Show absolutely NO interest whatsoever. I mean, they are obviously intent on ignoring whatever the fanbase says. So no matter how much we yell or complain or suggest alternatives to what they've done, they aren't goign to care. Up til now, i think enough noise has been made that they know the fanbase is unhappy, but they basically said "Fuck Off, fans"! So, what's the only way to prove ourselves right? Don't do anything. These pics and other such spoilers are turning up WAY too frequently now to just be a coincidence. Bay originally said they were keeping a itght lid on this stuff, and just as suddenly it leaks out all over. Almost seems like they wat the reactions. I say withhold any reaction. I mean, the only "bad" buzz for a huge production like this is No BUZZ at all. And yes, it's inevitable that the media will pick up on positive buzz put out by people like Don Murphy, especially as it gets closer to July 2007, but what does it matter of none of us that are unhappy with the production show up to buy tickets for this travesty? I mean, they can ignore the admonishments of "the fans' all they want, but if opening weekend comes and goes and all they have to show for it is a $60MM gross that will drop 50% the following week (or more) when Pirates comes out, I think the "fans" will be the ones with the last laugh. Though it will be with a woeful tear for "what could have been". But, maybe I'm just off me rocker.
all valid points, Roland by Lost Prophet	Sep 6th, 2006 10:45:14 AM
No-one has called you an apologist. There are 2 different types of people defending this. The likes of you, MNG and co who are trying to remain impartial and the "ITS GONNA FUUUKINNN' RAAWK" brigade, epitomised by Ganymede and Googamooga. I agree, I cautiously like this optimus (flames and all), and I openly admit to not being able to tell cullen's voice from George W Bush's. All my problems with it stem from the script (which, in hindsight, I wish I hadn't read), that interview with Shia (comparing Bay to Kubrik- the little turd), and the behaviour of Murphy. I am also not a Bay fan. However, given that we do know what we know, there seems to be no denying the fact that this is not even remotely representative of it's source material, whereas the other examples did have some relation to it. The nearest film I can think of that deviates so far is Godzilla, which was terrible. All I want is some quality and some respect. I see why everyone is upset, and I agree that it is very hard to coherently defend something that is unsighted, but the ITS GONNA RAAWK lot drive me mad with their utter inability to put forth a reasoned argument.
Lost, that's b/c their arguments are as mindless as by finky089	Sep 6th, 2006 10:49:36 AM
"all-'splosions and no-character" movies they like to watch.
Thaks for understanding... by Childe Roland	Sep 6th, 2006 11:02:55 AM
...Prophet. I tend to ignore the "It's gonna rawk!" crowd, as I suspect half of them aren't even being serious. I should clarify, though: I'm not saying it's HARD to defend a movie no one's sseen, I'm saying it's impossible and pointless to do so. Just as it's impossible (and rather pointless, given Murphy's expressed attitude) to criticize and condemn that same unseen film. And on the source material issue: it's been made pretty clear (in an interview linked from a previous talkback...by superninja, I believe) that, although the writers said they intended to preserve certain character personality traits and specific relationship dynamics from G1, they were in no way attempting to make a movie adaptation of the G1 mythos or storyline. So a lot of the sense of betrayal and cries of "they fucked it up/didn't get it right" really aren't applicable to the film they're apparently trying to make. I'm trying to take all of this into account and maintain some objectivity until I see the thing before I write it off as the most unholy cinematic abortion since "Nothing But Trouble."
why? by dopepope	Sep 6th, 2006 11:04:48 AM
Why the hell can't they at least have the face look like Optimus? How hard would that be? Now he looks stupid. There's nothing cool about that face. Looks squished. Not feeling it. The body is different enough, but I can live with that. The face, looks dumb.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = DEVIN FARACI by PUGLIFE	Sep 6th, 2006 11:07:22 AM

or even superman returns by Lost Prophet	Sep 6th, 2006 11:09:11 AM
It will have to try hard to top that piece of shit. I want to try to keep an open mind, but have been so incensed by Shia/ Bay/ Murphy that I am incapable of doing so. Any Bay film starts out with a major handicap with me, but the interviews, script (which as I said, was in retrospect, a mistake), and frankly lunatic behaviour of Murphy have embittered me against it. Curse my celtic temper.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = FANBOYS BITCHING by moto	Sep 6th, 2006 11:13:59 AM
You guys are like two year olds throwing a temper tantrum over a frickin' cookie. You're bitching about an early concept design. You haven't seen any clips from the movie, any trailer, or even any finalized production/effects pics. Settle. Settle. Settle. I'm a BIG GI fan... but I'll wait until I see the flick to bitch.
Chide Roland by messi	Sep 6th, 2006 11:18:51 AM
problem is that none of the other incarnations of Transformers were as beloved or popular as G1. owned again.
ganymede now i know you are a fuck by messi	Sep 6th, 2006 11:21:51 AM
who says '....Not'? Using it is not nostalgic, just stupid and dated.
what the hell is "nothing but trouble" by Lost Prophet	Sep 6th, 2006 11:25:30 AM
If it is that shit I am pleased it passed me by, and Messi- I think you are missing Roland's point. He says that he is only trying to keep an open mind because at this stage he does not know enough to be pro or con. We, however, have read the script so know more. I think that he is saying in answer to my point about abuse of the source material, that as he doesn't know fuck all he won't comment until he does- he doesn't seem to know if it is G1 faithful or G456- ignorance being bliss. When it is released and turns out to be a disgrace to celluloid I am sure that he will be vocal in condemning it. I will however, sit back smugly and watch as the carcass of this much abused property is ripped to pieces by the TB hyena's with nothing more than a small "told you so". Can't wait.
that damn dreamworks truck... by Staldo	Sep 6th, 2006 11:41:06 AM
I have only ever seen pictures of that semi from the con with the black tarp on it. Is there a reason for that? It seems pretty gay to bring in a mack truck draped with a big ominous message and then never unveil the thing.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = THE ISLAND'S GROSS by dead youngling	Sep 6th, 2006 11:41:43 AM
nuff said
Looks like a horse-face... by Immortal_Fish	Sep 6th, 2006 11:55:16 AM
...yet that never stopped folks from finding Sarah Jessica Parker sexy. Now that we have a completed image, I dunno, guys. It's kinda grown on me. He looks powerful, he has the classic helmet and mouth guard, and most important -- he's the classic red white and blue. Still not liking the flames, but that's small stuff IMO.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = COMPARING BAY TO KUBRICK by foree forehead	Sep 6th, 2006 12:05:24 PM
god almighty
messi by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 6th, 2006 12:12:50 PM
Childe Roland "owned again"? Hardly, dude.
Nothing but Trouble by NightArrows	Sep 6th, 2006 12:19:16 PM
Nothing but Trouble was a turd from the early 90's that featured Demi Moore's sweet new jugs, and a prosthetic nose on Dan Akroyd that looked more and more like a penis as the film went on. Can't believe I saw that movie in the theaters! And as for "waiting to see this before I judge it as shit" Do you need to see dog shit come out of the dogs ass before you classify it as shit and step around it? If it smells like shit, and looks like shit, then it must be Bay's Transformers and there is no need to see the sphincter push it out.
Yo, moondoggy2u... by Cold Winter Wind	Sep 6th, 2006 12:21:55 PM
That ain't a goatee, that's a soul patch!! Goatee's typically extend from the chin, this one starts at his bottom lip! Optimus with a soul patch, teeheeheeheehee... NOW I want to see this movie.
I looked at that face... by Inframan76	Sep 6th, 2006 12:25:52 PM
And saw the face of John Kerry. Not even the mighty Peter Cullen can save this movie now.
Plus post. by Cold Winter Wind	Sep 6th, 2006 12:26:44 PM
In the the immortal words of Capt. Malcolm Reynolds - "Shiny!"
Script is dated, an old draft, and not the shooting one by moto	Sep 6th, 2006 12:33:37 PM
So stop acting like you guys are the knowing almighty. You, like everyone else here, don't know shit. You've seen a few pics and read some interviews and have seen a description of a scene that probably takes up 60 seconds of screentime. The script you read is a dated first draft. Scripts go through SOOO many incarnations before the shooting draft and the studio will not let that one get into the wrong hands. You don't have enough info to be pro or con. Typical AICN reactions. And no, they are not going to make a movie that sticks strictly to the source material because the source material, storywise, isn't that good. I'm sure the introduction of the Transformers will be jump started by the boy and his car story, but that doesn't mean that will be the WHOLE story. Studios will NEVER listen to "fan bases" because they don't know what they are talking about. They're too nit picky and don't understand that there's a MUCH larger demographic... i.e. the general audience. If they were to make a fanboy movie, the box office numbers would be so frickin' low (ala SoaP). They will make it for everyone.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = TURBO:A POWER RANGERS MOVIE by GibsonUSA	Sep 6th, 2006 12:39:21 PM
They are probably going after the same crowd....
moto-So yor saying the script will go frm crap to good? by GibsonUSA	Sep 6th, 2006 12:44:56 PM
So you're saying that there's a chance that the script, through rewrites, will magically turn from complete crap (as of Feb.06) into something GOOD? Shit to gold? Will the robot designs turn from shit to gold also?
OLD Design by The Only Woj	Sep 6th, 2006 01:04:38 PM
the mod on the Michael Bay forum said this and the other concept art is from late 2005. so while they will still look very similar to this, I'm sure certain elements are being changed. remember, the summer trailer for Kong ... Kong looked a bit different come winter. the models themselves will change as the project gets closer to ending production.
Moto - You Ignorant... by NathanGrey	Sep 6th, 2006 01:07:25 PM
..Fuck. I wont even get into every scene and every pic has led to the script of Feb of '06. My question to you is what evidence do YOU have that it is NOT the right script? Did Bay email you and say: "psssh I changed the script" and you immediately came here to post your garbage? Even if they changed two or three scenes, the plot is still the plot, "5 stories converging at the end" how about 5 piles of shit being piled on each other....
Eh. Whatever. by Orbots Commander	Sep 6th, 2006 01:14:24 PM
At the end of the day, Transformers is still an adaption of an 80's half-hour toy commercial. Everybody can't be that worked up over this little kid's movie, could they?
A new concept image of PRIME WITH GUN by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 6th, 2006 01:16:58 PM
http://tinyurl.com/oeodg -- Here you go, kids. Here is more concept art detailing a weapon idea for Prime. This cements it for me that these images are all part of a "strategic leak".
Have to agree with Gaius by RevSick	Sep 6th, 2006 01:37:24 PM
I think these leaks are becoming more and more evident that they are strategic "Leaks" I think what we're seeing is a means of getting the fan base so down about the movie that when they see the trailer they have no other choice but to be excited about it. I think even these set visit's reek of being staged. There's too much info out on a project where they said they were going to be completely hush hush. I find it highly suspicious.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = BROWN V. BOARD OF EDUCATION by Elmore Rigby	Sep 6th, 2006 01:37:27 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = JUDAS BETRAYS CHRIST by Elmore Rigby	Sep 6th, 2006 01:38:18 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = THOMAS JEFFERSON SLEPT WITH SLAVES by Elmore Rigby	Sep 6th, 2006 01:38:55 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = IF GLOVE DOESN'T FIT U MUST ACQUIT by Elmore Rigby	Sep 6th, 2006 01:39:50 PM

NathanGrey by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 6th, 2006 01:44:22 PM
That's just a dumb statement. Scripts go through many treatments and revisions. Sometimes, they will even go through a number of writers' hands. We already know that several set pieces that followed the leaked script have been filmed. But we also know that co-headwriter Orci and Bay's own blog administrator, Nelson, have said that the Feb/06 draft is OLDER than that given date and that it is NOT the shooting script. Changes have been made. We just don't know what's been changed and to what extent. The people working on this production don't seem too concerned over the leaked version...and they are probably getting a kick out of fellas,such as yourself, tear their hair out over a script treatment that may have been significantly altered long ago.
Lost Prophet you've ignored every logical argument! by ganymede2010	Sep 6th, 2006 01:44:22 PM
As to way the 20 year old blocky designs will not work in a live action film. If the average movie goer was to see one of those blocky robots in action, they would be very dissatisfied. This movie is being made for a general audience, not the fanboi's. And don't give me the "Spiderman was done for the fans" no it wasn't. The Green Goblin sucked. Organic web shooters, no Gwen Stacy as his next door neighbor etc. There's so many things that Rami changed. A movie with a 200+ budget isn't made for a small group of fans who were between 5-12 when the series originaly aired. And it's very "illogical" for you to think a movie studio is going to do everything the fans instruct them to do. Take a look at Snakes on a Plane. They bent over backwards for the fans. How did the fans reward them? By not showing up.
Gany by RevSick	Sep 6th, 2006 01:51:03 PM
Most of us don't care about them being "blocky" we care about them "resembling" the characters. Prime resembles Prime, so most of us are alright with it, would we prefer he look like G1 Prime, of course we would, but it's not a deal breaker so long as he looks like Prime. The others haven't faired as well, and that's where we have the issue, we want them to at least resemble the characters, not be exact representations.
the toy commercial shit by Staldo	Sep 6th, 2006 01:52:06 PM
needs to stop now. Not because it isn't true, but because it is getting so fucking old and every condescending cunt posts it thinking they're God's gift to the poor consumer-culture masses . Who gives a fuck what the origin of the franchise was. The fact is there are fans with expectations. As with any sci-fi universe, Transformers has evolved since its inception. When the argument gets too heated, people whip out the reductionist shit as if it's a trump card. Yes, I know, Lord of the Rings was awkardly written white catholic wish fulfillment and Wonder Woman was created by a psychologist to get girls to buy comics, but nobody reduces the importance of arguments concerning those properties because of that fact.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = DO YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS TO A TOAD by Badger999	Sep 6th, 2006 01:57:15 PM
...when it gets hit by lightning?
Ganymede we've been over this 1 million times.... by Ricky Henderson	Sep 6th, 2006 01:57:41 PM
The designs don't have to look like the original boxy G1 transformers to be faithful to the "spirit" of transformers. That method was what worked for Spiderman and it would work for this movie as well. I'm fine with the idea of them making some minor changes to Prime, just keep certain elements in place. If they'd gone with a flat nosed mack truck and the same basic face, I'd be content. If you don't have anything new or original to contribute, please stop posting. People here are getting tired of explaining the same thing over and over to the haters.
Know by RevSick	Sep 6th, 2006 02:01:42 PM
Why don't you crawl back in your cave Troll? No one on here is necisarilly taking themselves too seriously, it's called debate, and some of us can do it intelligently without resulting to calling out people as being "sad" or needing to "go get laid". Some people like having heavy handed discussions on politics, some of us prefer to do that with movies and things of a geekish nature, doesn't make anyone more sad than the other, except for Trolls, like you.
The picture released last week is more current. by tile_mcgillus	Sep 6th, 2006 02:03:07 PM
Okay after examining the picture from the banner and the concept art it is apparent what we are looking at. This is the final design, no doubt about it. BUT it is a drawing, not a 3d rendering. We all know this but look at that banner closer. Prime has weight, mass and lighting this is because it is the 3d model. All the gear shit works to make the robot form and should look bad ass in Live action. His face is darkened in the banner so I cant say for certain how that is going to look but I do not see any glowing eyes. The feet make since for a live action movie and the need to turn, bend and pivot. I still HATE the flames and want more body armor but this is actually pretty close to G1. Its the Megatron design that just needs shot in the head and left for dead.
Nitpicking by Playhouse	Sep 6th, 2006 02:04:25 PM
If wanting character, plot, development, quality dialogue, lcear motive with healthy subtext and considerate narrative in a movie is nitpicking, then fuck yes, I am a nitpicker.
Death of the Big Budget Sci-Fi by cabsau	Sep 6th, 2006 02:06:17 PM
Lord of the Rings was the reason I came to AICN. Transformers might be the reason I go. I mean are you people really into this thing? A movie based on an 80s cartoon based on a fricking toy for chrissakes? Do you guys not realize this thing is going to BOMB! ...and I'm actually chiming in because I think this is so utterly ridiculous?
likewise the trolls who presume all TF fans are virgins by Staldo	Sep 6th, 2006 02:09:35 PM
I will tell Knowthyself what I tell any troll who makes a general statement that having sex more would change a fan's perspective:What I do in a Motel 6 room with a bottle of easy cheese, your mother, and an Australian sugar glider is my own damn business.
Cab by RevSick	Sep 6th, 2006 02:10:45 PM
How is this any different then debating the quality of a plagaristic direct for DVD release, that would have gotten no attention had people at sites just passed it off as the usual plagaristic straight to dvd stuff? How is it any different then bashing the fuck out of X3 on a daily basis? It's a discussion, if you think it's silly then that's fine, don't post, ignore the thread.
There are much worse things to base a movie on by Jak0lantern01	Sep 6th, 2006 02:13:23 PM
like video games, for example. Has there really been one single truly good video game movie? Don't tell me Resident Evil, those movies are terrible. Doom blew, what else? At least the TF's had a comic and cartoon to go along with the line, and the comic was a lot darker in tone. So, to me, I'd prefer to see the comic-based version of The TF's. Speaking of comics, they're no longer making the G1 toyline, but some of the newer comics are G1 character based, in terms of design. I saw some art from the Dreamwave comics, looked good to me. Even G2 wasn't too great a deviation from G1. Megatron as a tank makes so much more sense. Fine, he's an ALIEN JET in the new movie. At least they were smart enough to invalidate Starscream, who has now been converted into a robotic monkey with cannon arms. What happened to the sleek G1 design? Sure, there would definitely have to be modifications to the 'boxey' designs, but at least they should still be highly recognizable.
New video is up... by Hairy Nutsack	Sep 6th, 2006 02:14:13 PM
http://tinyurl.com/kpj6l
Jak by RevSick	Sep 6th, 2006 02:15:48 PM
Silent Hill was really good.
SnakesOnABicycle by shakermakerman	Sep 6th, 2006 02:22:40 PM
nope no problems just the one password and name lol, i still have my g1 toys but im all up for change as you get newer vehicles as time gos on they still going to be the same character.
Actually, RevSick... by Childe Roland	Sep 6th, 2006 02:30:24 PM
...Silent Hill, as released, had a lot of unrealized potential. I have no doubt, though, that a three+ hour version with actual plot revelation through character action and interaction (instead of that ridiculous expositional film-within-a-film thing we got) exists and will be quite enjoyable to watch on DVD some day.
Ok, who is Hairy Nutsack? by Ricky Henderson	Sep 6th, 2006 02:34:42 PM
Is it the same giggling land-monster who occasionally posts bizzarely inappropriate reviews on this site? Or another Harry entirely? And that animation was good, yes, but too scatalogical and not witty enough for my liking.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = THIS IS YOUR BRAIN ON DRUGS by Elmore Rigby	Sep 6th, 2006 02:38:57 PM

Yelling "FLAMES ON OPTIMUS" = flames on optimus by Ricky Henderson	Sep 6th, 2006 02:44:21 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = WHO GIVES A FLYING F**K?! by LaserPants	Sep 6th, 2006 02:46:33 PM
I mean really now. Please. This insanity has gone way past pathetic, way past sad, its now in the realm of the terrifying. Is this the future? Angry maladjusted adults crying about a 20 year old toy commercial? Is it time to call the authorities yet? I think it may be.
I Agree With LaserPants by ZombieSolutions	Sep 6th, 2006 02:48:32 PM
You've all gone caacaa coocoo crazy in the headhole.
You are wierd people by Harold The Great	Sep 6th, 2006 02:49:33 PM
that is all
I like the flames by spikebad666	Sep 6th, 2006 02:52:46 PM
I hope they keep them.
FLAMES ON PRIME = "GETERDONE" JOKES by Phategod2	Sep 6th, 2006 02:59:43 PM

Umm Ricky.... by Hairy Nutsack	Sep 6th, 2006 03:02:56 PM
I've been in these long ass TF TalkBacks from the beginning. (and on AICN in general since long ago) I have yet to post a review, and this the 2nd TF video I've shared with our fellow TBers. See if my 1st video is more to your liking - http://youtube.com/watch?v=WRA cwQagxhU
Hairy--I liked the end part of the video... by Ricky Henderson	Sep 6th, 2006 03:09:08 PM
That was funny. Good job.
The Dark Knight by tile_mcgillus	Sep 6th, 2006 03:17:11 PM
This is from Joblo.com: Sean Penn was offered the role of Joker but turned it down. Phillip Seymour Hoffman has officially turned down the Penguin role. SAD FACE 5000
"Blocky, Original Designs Won't Work" by blackwood	Sep 6th, 2006 03:23:58 PM
Saw this argument pop up again. It's really very stupid because - guess what - they DID work, insofar as they were actual, physical objects that were able to change between robot and vehicle with nary a child's needless blindness. Neither here nor there, but it needed to be said. GIANT ROBOTS FOREVER!
Yack by blackwood	Sep 6th, 2006 03:26:50 PM
Give it a chance. I, personally, think Ledger and Bale would make very pretty ass-babies together.
re: Dark Knight by Thenedain	Sep 6th, 2006 03:33:39 PM
The idea of Ledger as the Joker initially scared the bejesus out of me, now that I'm sitting back and thinking about it a bit, it might turn out pretty ok. I suspect he's one of those actors that could play a good psychopath if given the chance, and he's never really been given a chance to play 'bad'. I trust Nolan, so I have some hope for this one. As for what this has to do with TF? Nothing, but like Brokeback Mountain, Bay and Murphy LOVE the cock.
Ledger by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 6th, 2006 03:35:11 PM
I think that Ledger is such an unexpected (and somewhat inspired) piece of casting that it may work like gangbusters. I heard that Penn was in consideration for the role but not that it was actually offered to him. He NEVER would have done it anyway.
Yack by Thenedain	Sep 6th, 2006 03:40:07 PM
I'm actually kind of hoping that the Joker we get is closer to the more subdued, sinister Joker that was seen in some of the early comics and again pretty recently, instead of the over the top, totally batshit crazy Joker. I'm hoping that this becomes more of a Detective Comics kind of movie, more of a mystery flick than an action flick, and a really dark evil Joker would fit that perfectly.
GibsonUSA... by moto	Sep 6th, 2006 03:42:43 PM
Um, yeah. That's what rewrites are for. Producers give notes, saying what works and what doesn't. It's a process. Do you actually think the first draft of any movie is gold and it doesn't get better than that? Think before you speak.
You know what we should do... by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 6th, 2006 03:42:55 PM
Until something more substantial comes out, we should hijack every TF thread with nothing but discussion over "The Dark Knight".
YackBacker - I heard Penn wanted to do... by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 6th, 2006 03:47:46 PM
a method "Spicolli interpretation" of the Joker. ** "But what about Batman and Commissioner Gordon?" -- "Ho, those guys are fags!!!"
Flames = Ribs? by MarkoOhNo	Sep 6th, 2006 03:56:57 PM
Sorry Mr Bay, I just don't see that. In robot form, even with my eyes crossed, they still just look like flames.
Yup, that's my take on it by Thenedain	Sep 6th, 2006 03:59:58 PM
From Nolan's last comments on Dark Knight, it sounds like he's going in a direction with the Joker that no one's ever seen on film before. All I can think of is the evil criminal mastermind Joker. While I'd like to see at least one or two scenes that shows how whacky nutty The Joke can be, I'd really be psyched to see something closer to The Killing Joke, which I actually think they're delving heavily into for inspiration. Personally, I'd be really, really happy NOT to see much of the Joker throughout the movie, and think a full reveal should happen near the end and set up for the sequel. One thing I do like about Nolan's Batman treatment so far is that he's not killing off every villain. I fully hope we'll see at least a cameo of Scarecrow (another inspired casting choice, mind you) and maybe a passing mention of no body being found for Ra's ( as in the comics he can revive via the Lazarus Pits ). I kind of hope that like Raimi's Spidey villains, Nolan's setting up for a possible flick down the road that'd see Bats vs. a whole slew of villains. Can anyone say Knightfall?
I was iffy on Ledger as the Joker, too... by Childe Roland	Sep 6th, 2006 04:00:11 PM
...until I remembered an interview I saw with the guy (I htink it was for Dogtown). When he smiles...not the very self-conscious, repressed smile he flashed in Brokeback but a real shit-eating grin...it drops him down the ugly tree by quite a few branches. Seriously. His smile practically disfigures him. And a couple of times during the interview, he said something that he thought was very funny...but it never was. And he's just let out this bizarre laugh that I never would've expected out of him. With those things at work, I think he could nail a more subdued (like the early parts of The Killing Joke) kind of Joker. I'm quite looking forward to seeing him tackle the role. And since I brought up The Killing Joke, I know I've typed this before but I re-read that recently and couldn't help but be struck by the thematic similarities it has to Brokeback Mountain. Two men with personal demons find themselves inexorably drawn to one another in a relationship that both are convinced can only end in one of their deaths and it destroys the lives of those they care about. Seems like perfect baggage for Ledger to bring to the role (much as American Psycho's Bateman was a good warm up for Bale's Batman).
The Joker and "subdued realism" by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 6th, 2006 04:04:16 PM
I agree. One of the things about the graphic novels (Arkham Asylum and The Killing Joke) is that the Joker isn't that over the top Ceasar Romero/Jack Nicholson character. In fact, he's dark, very twisted, and incredibly disturbing. I think it's easy to go the "disfigured crazy loon" route. Personally, I think the Joker would be much more memorable and filmworthy if he was played with a subdued personality. That way, when he does go "crazy", it scares the living hell out of you. Like a cobra - you never know when he is going to snap/strike.
AICN ... by daelith	Sep 6th, 2006 04:11:04 PM
Boo AICN!
batfans... by Staldo	Sep 6th, 2006 04:15:46 PM
hijack this thread if you will, but if any of you have read Kingdom Come, you know what Bruce Wayne turns to to help him continue his crusade in old age. That's right, GIANT ROBOTS. Everything eventually leads to giant robots, and some day they'll have their day in the sun. Probably not next summer, though.
Damn, Yack, that is too bad about... by Childe Roland	Sep 6th, 2006 04:18:22 PM
...The Illusionist. That was on my must-see list. Is it at least a decent renter? And Staldo, would Bruce by way of Kingdom Come qualify as a cyborg with that exoskeleton of his?
SOMEONE PLEASE EMAIL ME THE SCRIPT OR A LINK by Cameron1	Sep 6th, 2006 04:29:36 PM
popculturekid@hotmail.co.uk
Flames on Prime = Penis on Ackroyd's nose by finky089	Sep 6th, 2006 04:31:31 PM
Just 'cause someone above mentioned "Nothing But Trouble" TINO! TINO! TINO! TIN ! TINO!
YackBacker by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 6th, 2006 04:34:10 PM
So, would you say that "The Illusionist" lacked a certain magical quality? Ba-dum-dum. Thank you, try the veal!
The Illusionist looked ok, by Thenedain	Sep 6th, 2006 04:34:37 PM
but I'm holding out for the Prestige. That looks like a pretty sweet flick at this point. Plus, it's got that nice little Batman Begins connection going for it.
FLAMES ON PRIME = PAY FOR IT BEFORE YOU HATE IT by darthwalters	Sep 6th, 2006 04:44:42 PM
I may change my judgement if I see changes, perhaps even an exciting trailer, but there is no way in hell I'm going to shovel them 10 bucks before I have a right to have an opinion. If I have to go to a movie just to prove it sucks they kind of win anyway don't they?
What's wrong with flames? by Orionsangels	Sep 6th, 2006 04:48:12 PM
It's not like he has flowers. Everyone just relax!
The Problem With Flames... by MarkoOhNo	Sep 6th, 2006 04:52:21 PM
...is that they imply character traits which Optimus simply does not possess. Wild, reckless, hotheaded... that's not Prime.
Look Not To Mr Spielberg... by MarkoOhNo	Sep 6th, 2006 04:55:48 PM
...he's not going to do anything about it, trust me. This is the same man who threw Peter Benchley off the set of Jaws for complaining about the ending of the movie. He'll trust the director to note objections but stay true to his vision. (Even if Mr Bay's vision is 20/20000.)
For those who doubt the legend... by deadlegend	Sep 6th, 2006 04:59:57 PM
My ID doesn't represent dead rock stars or singers or movie stars. Those were PEOPLE, NOT LEGENDS. Ever heard of MYTHOLOGY? As in REAL LEGENDS? As in the legends of Nimrod, Semeramis, Hercules, Tammuz and countless others? If you don't pay enough attention to notice my ID, don't pay attention to this post. If you do care, and you're a clueless FUCKASS, then be enlightened about my ID and go fuck your mother. Oh yeah, TF2007 will kick ass. And I'm not a plant or an apologist, I just enjoy Michael Bay and Steven Spielberg movies. Sue me, bitches.
another take on the flames by Staldo	Sep 6th, 2006 05:10:27 PM
Flames on Optimus=the hand-me-down T-shirt on Samuel L. Jackson in Pulp Fiction. A fucking hilarious result of circumstance but in no way detrimental to the character. Giant robot needs a disguise, grabs the closest thing available. I'd like to see you arrive on another planet and immediately know what clothes to wear to avoid coming off as an ass.
But legend... by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 6th, 2006 05:13:03 PM
...you're dead. Your legend is dead. You're a deadlegend.
Staldo, that's genius. by Cameron1	Sep 6th, 2006 05:17:03 PM
I hope all the other autobots give me "wtf?" looks and bitch at him behind his back. "Flames is Prime trying to tell us all something?" Course it would kinda make it a comedy and not an action movie, but I'm reading the script right now, and hell, it's laughable anyway.
Staldo - the flames by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 6th, 2006 05:20:16 PM
I could see it: Ironhide turns to Optimus, "What's with the flames?" -- Optimus looks ahead, "Don't ask". He then transforms and takes off.
Back to batman by Phategod2	Sep 6th, 2006 05:26:50 PM
I think If they go with a more subdued joker, then he has to really do some sick stuff and therefore this movie would be Rated R so i think its simpler to go with Crazy as batshit joker Also its hard to take someone younger then me seriously as the Joker. and cant help but think that Brad Douriff would have made a better Joker.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = COLLIN FARRELS DOO IN ALEXANDER by Flux_brown	Sep 6th, 2006 05:34:11 PM
surprised nobody has brought alexander up yet :)
joker by Flux_brown	Sep 6th, 2006 05:35:22 PM
if only crispin glover signed on...
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = IT'S JUST A STUPID TOY COMMERCIAL by Immortal_Fish	Sep 6th, 2006 05:39:24 PM
Honestly, let's pile everyone from both of these camps into a room where they can transform into the Mongolian Clusterfuckticon. I bet Leia LeBoushh would dig that.
the whole get laid thing is stupid KNOWTHYSELF by messi	Sep 6th, 2006 05:43:26 PM
you do know there are a few pornstars who also don't like what is happening with this movie. So your argument doesn't work.
I'm loving the Ledger casting. by Cameron1	Sep 6th, 2006 05:43:29 PM
He's robbing liquor stores and murdering the owners, he ain't a criminal mastermind, yet. I've heard that Nolan wants to take it bakc to the very first appearance of the Joker in the comics as well though. I believe he pops up to announce he's going to kill a famous Gotham resident at midnight that very night and even with a huge police guard the celebrity is murdered by poisoning. Anyway I think the joker will probably be a young punk kid looking to make a name for himself and move up the ladder as it were, hence his killing the famous Gotham resident to get him more publicity. I can definitely see Ledger in that kind of role.
Phategod2 and Flux_brown by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 6th, 2006 05:44:37 PM
Crispin Glover simply doesn't have the chops to pull that character off. The Joker is much more complex and chances are that Glover would just be doing a version of himself. (Scary but not scary enough.) Phategod2 - I think you are overlooking a more subtle approach, one that would give people the genuine creeps when viewing the Joker. It would be more about what's implied rather than "batshit crazy". As for his age, well...the Joker has got to start sometime.
hey...i've got nothing against Ledger by Flux_brown	Sep 6th, 2006 05:49:50 PM
his casting was a bit out of the box which we expect and want nolan to do. and hey Nice gaius, ur probably right about glover. the thing i never got was Philip seymor hoffman as the penguin? that sounded more like a studio's decision than nolan's. and i don't mind ryan phillipe either, dunno why...but i think he could pull it off
Can I have a example of subtle by Phategod2	Sep 6th, 2006 05:51:49 PM
I think in the Killing Joke he rapes Barbara gordon I mean if he's realisticly evil or Tarentino blood gushing evil this movie gets a R rating, if its implied "softcore" Evil with popping out of the dark empty threat evil, it would be kind of lame, especially from ledger who has to alot to prove.
Concerning Dark Knight by messi	Sep 6th, 2006 05:58:39 PM
I like Heath Ledger in the role because he hasn't done anything like this before as opposed to Paul Bettany. If he was cast we would know what to expect, just evil Paul Bettany and that's the reason he wasn't in the running. As for the joker, Nolan has said he is like the one found on The Killing Joke, the first two appearances of the Joker and the Steve Englehart story The Jokers 5 way revenge. Expect a Detective Comics movie, rather than an action movie.
Flux by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 6th, 2006 05:59:07 PM
I kind of hope they don't do anything with the Penguin. I'd hate for them to get sucked into that multiple-villain-hole where they can't give everyone's character a decent chance to develop. I'm not sure about the Harvey Dent/Ryan Phillipe rumor...but I think there are a lot of actors who could play that role rather well.
Gaius by Flux_brown	Sep 6th, 2006 06:02:55 PM
yeah, before we know it we'll be in schumacher territory...are they keeping oldman in the sequals?
Phategod2 by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 6th, 2006 06:06:36 PM
Well, a rape such as in The Killing Joke could be played several ways. But I don't think you would need to show that (or anything ala Tarantino!) in the movie. If you implied it with a certain subtlety and a dead-on performance by Ledger, I think it would play more on the mind of the audience. Instead of the Joker running around going "Woooo hoooo hooo, Batsy!", all you would need to show is a big ear-to-ear smile in the shadows. I'm pretty sure that stands a better chance of creeping you out and making your girlfriend/boyfriend jump into your lap than anything "blood & guts".
The Joker doesn't rape Barbara... by Childe Roland	Sep 6th, 2006 06:09:04 PM
...Gordon in The Killing Joke. We know he cripples her and takes naked pictures of her (which is a violation in and of itself). But a rape, especially after all that, seems almost beneath the character...especially as depicted in that particular story. It's too mundane.
"oldman in the sequals?" by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 6th, 2006 06:10:12 PM
As far as I know. I think it's great that he is playing a good guy with Gordon. He is so masterful as a villain that it's cool to see him play something more low key. However, he would have been one of my first choices to play the Joker. Remember that scene in Bram Stoker's Dracula when he starts to smile and then kicks in that slow evil laugh?! It was pretty money.
Thanks for the correction, Childe by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 6th, 2006 06:12:09 PM
It's been years since I've read that story. I guess I remembered it as being that a rape was sort of implied.
yeah Thanks Childe by Phategod2	Sep 6th, 2006 06:20:34 PM
i should have remembered I just read it again this summer.
did i write "sequals" ??!! by Flux_brown	Sep 6th, 2006 06:20:44 PM
yeah, i hope he stays in it...this isn't typical gary oldman fare you know...this is the guy who said he did azkaban for the paycheck only, i hope they've gotten him in their pockets already, coz he turned down order of the phoenix, hence he doesn't need the money anymore....
Dan Akroyd as The Penguin!!! by moto	Sep 6th, 2006 06:43:06 PM
JUST KIDDING... but I would laugh my ass off seeing him in a Batman movie.
Not to be off topic but this is hilarious! by tile_mcgillus	Sep 6th, 2006 06:43:07 PM
Volkswagon is having their rabbit icon replace the Playboy bunny icon (or something to that effect) on the September issue of Playboy. The christian ethics groups are all in a tizzy because Volkswagon sent the magazines to all their senior sales representatives with a quote "Enjoy front to back". If you remember correctly Volkswagon had Bumblebee not be a VW bug because they didn't want their product associated with violence. Porn is alright I guess? I know Europe doesn't really even consider nudity offensive. But a kind hearted robot that is trying to protect mankind is wrong and gross but associating their product with naked pussy is chicy and funny. Actually I think VW has it right though, GUNS=BAD, PUSSY=GOOD. THats how I live my life.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = JEFF GANNON VISITS TO WHITE HOUSE by brokebackcowboy	Sep 6th, 2006 06:46:58 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = INACTIVE READY RESERVE by brokebackcowboy	Sep 6th, 2006 06:48:18 PM
The troops need a break.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = DIARRHEA AND ANAL SEX by brokebackcowboy	Sep 6th, 2006 06:49:45 PM

Damn cattle herd here by Jak0lantern01	Sep 6th, 2006 06:54:55 PM
First it's a TF talkback, then someone yells "BATMAN!" and everyone changes course, right over the cliff.
Volkswagen by Staldo	Sep 6th, 2006 06:57:44 PM
naked pussy in Playboy? Last I checked they were only offering glimpses of pube, with occasional exceptions like those sweet, sweet Darryl Hannah shots from '03. definitely one of my all time favs, despite her age. As for Volkswagen, what can you expect from the Germans? They could have even worked Bumblebee violence into those new side-impact crash test rating commercials, those . Those are done by Volkswagen, right?
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = PG13 ALIEN vs. PREDATOR by GibsonUSA	Sep 6th, 2006 06:58:16 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = MULLET by brokebackcowboy	Sep 6th, 2006 06:58:51 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=TOM & JERRY TALKING IN THE MOVIE by GibsonUSA	Sep 6th, 2006 06:59:08 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = FAST AND FURIOUS 1, 2 AND 3 by brokebackcowboy	Sep 6th, 2006 07:00:01 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=I DIDNT HAVE SEXUAL REL. W/ THAT WOMN by GibsonUSA	Sep 6th, 2006 07:01:03 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=FAT PEOPLE WHO GET TIRED WHILE EATING by GibsonUSA	Sep 6th, 2006 07:02:14 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = THIRD WORLD BABIES THAT DID * NOT * by brokebackcowboy	Sep 6th, 2006 07:02:21 PM
GET ADOPTED BY ANGELINA JOLIE.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = BILL CLINTON'S CIGAR by brokebackcowboy	Sep 6th, 2006 07:03:31 PM
Dude ... Monica Lewinsky?!?!? Have some mercy ...
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = RUSH LIMBAUGH'S DOCTOR by brokebackcowboy	Sep 6th, 2006 07:04:37 PM
AFTER HER GOT BUSTED.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = MICHAEL LOHAN'S CAR INSURANCE AGENT by brokebackcowboy	Sep 6th, 2006 07:06:52 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = WALMART EMPLOYEES by brokebackcowboy	Sep 6th, 2006 07:07:57 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = FOX'S FALL LINEUP by brokebackcowboy	Sep 6th, 2006 07:10:18 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = STAR TREK V by brokebackcowboy	Sep 6th, 2006 07:11:08 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = FRANCIS FORD COPPOLA'S FRANKENSTEIN by brokebackcowboy	Sep 6th, 2006 07:13:13 PM
Kenneth Branaugh is still hiding in seclusion ....
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = MICHAEL HASSELHOFF by brokebackcowboy	Sep 6th, 2006 07:17:57 PM
Why doesn't he just go away?
Ha Ha, Jeff Gannon.. Classic! by ganymede2010	Sep 6th, 2006 07:18:29 PM

Is it me or does Micheal bays the Tranformers by Phategod2	Sep 6th, 2006 07:25:17 PM
Remind you of the last decade of MTV all flash no substance and geared towards stupid people.
who the hell is Michael Hasselhoff? by eighteenseconds	Sep 6th, 2006 07:34:20 PM
a legalized BAY marriage?
Volkswagen by Optimus Murphy	Sep 6th, 2006 07:36:18 PM
Don't worry VW, nobody would ever think to associate your company with violence, what with Adolf Hitler having design input on your signature vehicle, and you providing equipment to the Nazi war machine.
Not to mention the commercial where by Phategod2	Sep 6th, 2006 07:41:38 PM
you cars get smacked up or the ones where you completly destroy a pimped car.
His tires are out of balance! by Tinfang	Sep 6th, 2006 07:47:19 PM
Well, they are. I'm opening both wrist right now.
I think the whole VW by Phategod2	Sep 6th, 2006 07:47:42 PM
thing was a lie truth is the autobots are a gigantic GM commercial and no better way to show GM's new muscle car is letting one of the stars be it. The reason why Bumble bee is the camaro and not Jazz is because he gets more screen time. I saw a interview with mike bay where he or a military stooge descibed this movie as a recruiting tool (or comercial) so we have movie pushing the armed forces, GM cars, Yahoo, and E-bay. does this movie even need my $8 with all those sponsers.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = OLD MEN BECOMING DADS by PUGLIFE	Sep 6th, 2006 07:57:06 PM

Hulk Hogan should be the voice for Optimus Prime... by BatVomit	Sep 6th, 2006 08:04:31 PM
"AUTOBOTS! TRANSFORM AND ROLL OUT, BROTHER!!"
a rectruiting tool? by Staldo	Sep 6th, 2006 08:05:51 PM
Join the army and fight giant metal scorpions today, boys and girls. Apparently Sabot anti-tank rounds are going to be like Transformer kryptonite in this movie.
Phategod by tile_mcgillus	Sep 6th, 2006 08:06:44 PM
I wouldn't put anything past this production. But this is from wikipedia (i know not very reliable but it was posted way before movie)::::::::Volkswagen New Beetle model When the Alternators/Binaltech line of hyper-realistic Transformers was being developed, fan favorite Bumblebee was to be recreated as a new Volkswagen Beetle, according to prototype art in "The Transformers Binaltech & TF Collection Complete Guide". According to Hasbro designer Aaron Archer at "The Official Transformers Collectors Convention" (or OTFCC) '03, Volkswagen had refused to license an Alternator Bumblebee. Volkswagen refused to license the car, however, supposedly due to the warlike nature of the Transformers. [1] Since VW was hit hard in 2002 by a lawsuit by holocaust victims for their involvement in WWII (as a German manufacturer), VW is understandably reluctant to have its name tied to anything that could be considered a war machine. Hasbro had agreed to not give Bumblebee a gun, however, the prototype shot given to Volkswagen still had the gun present. Volkswagen were unaware that the picture was a prototype and they rejected the idea This explains why the Bumblebee Altmode does not exist as a New VW Beetle and instead as other form cars beyond the old VW Beetle model. :::::::::::::
Phategod.... by BatVomit	Sep 6th, 2006 08:10:36 PM
They also had prototypes of Jazz as a Porsche, but changed it to a Mazda RX-8 because Porsche wouldn't allow their cars to be licensed for 'war-like' toys either.
porche hasn't granted their likeness whoever by Phategod2	Sep 6th, 2006 08:27:24 PM
In most video games Porshe's are renamed RUF and they are allowed around the lisence and that another thing as long as they don't refer to car as VW or bug and remove the VW ensignia they should be find and even if they could not do that your telling me they cant get the same car from the Italian Job.
Phategod by tile_mcgillus	Sep 6th, 2006 08:39:01 PM
I bet they wouldnt have used the camaro anyway. Besides, VW probably wouldn't want to pay what GM are paying to have all their "vehicles" in the movie.
Prime looks just fine... by Cadillac Jones	Sep 6th, 2006 09:03:13 PM
...he'd look sweeter in the single color red / blue scheme like that dude above photoshopped, but that's just being nitpicky. Now Megatron? That's a different story. They completely and utterly juggfuckled Megatron. He needs a redesign STAT!
Im no Laywer but by Phategod2	Sep 6th, 2006 09:18:24 PM
i believe there paying for the License not the likeness you can rip off all badges off a car do anything to it as long as you call it something else like GTA:III but when you start calling it by it actual name thats when someone has to have permission. Now I saw a pic from the movie and there was seen with a fararri and some other High end cars but the Autobots are all GM cars.
Back to Batman 2 by Phategod2	Sep 6th, 2006 09:31:31 PM
you know aht pissed me off about Batman Begins No Talia. she was fine and one of the few chicks that matched his intellect and loved him.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = PONTIAC AZTEK by GibsonUSA	Sep 6th, 2006 09:34:40 PM
If this is indeed a GM commercial disguised as a movie, that still does not justify Bumblebee having to be a Camaro. They could have made the Camaro someone else with lots of screentime, like that Decepticon police car....OR, REWRITE the script to give Jazz more lines and make him the Camaro. GM has a ton of small compact cars they need to promote.....the newly redesigned Chevy Aveo, the NEW Pontiac G5, that new AWD Suzuki compact.....the competition is STIFF in the compact segment and all of these GM new entries need attention. Bumblebee would have made more sense as any of them. And also, Bumblebee is the weakest and most "little" of the Transformers....does GM really want the Camaro associated with those characteristics?
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = BILL FORD JR. AT NEXT BOARD MEETING by brokebackcowboy	Sep 6th, 2006 09:36:51 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = CHILD SLEEPING AT MICHAEL JACKSON'S by brokebackcowboy	Sep 6th, 2006 09:38:11 PM
HOUSE.
phategod.... by Flux_brown	Sep 6th, 2006 09:38:21 PM
man, but just having ras al ghul as the baddie was great enough! they should have a thalia cameo in the 2nd tho....the fans would go apeshit over that!
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = Mariah's Glitter by Flux_brown	Sep 6th, 2006 09:40:35 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = SYLVESTER STALLONE SINCE 1994 by brokebackcowboy	Sep 6th, 2006 09:41:43 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS =THE SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS by GibsonUSA	Sep 6th, 2006 09:42:35 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = DON MURPHY'S PERSONAL TRAINER by brokebackcowboy	Sep 6th, 2006 09:46:20 PM
He's basically unemployed ...
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = FAT WOMEN GOIN NUTS FOR CLAY AIKEN by GibsonUSA	Sep 6th, 2006 09:48:33 PM

Fanart of awesome Jazz head by messi	Sep 6th, 2006 09:49:55 PM
this is the style that the designers should have gone with in bringing to life Transformers. http://img258.imageshack.us/im g258/1659/mymoviejazzhead2webo f8.jpg
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = JOHN MARK KARR IN A CLASSROOM by brokebackcowboy	Sep 6th, 2006 09:49:57 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = GOLD CHAIN ON A MAN'S NECK by brokebackcowboy	Sep 6th, 2006 09:51:45 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=THINKING ANNE COULTER HAS NICE LEGS by GibsonUSA	Sep 6th, 2006 09:53:03 PM

FLAMES IN OPTIMUS = BOBBY EWING IN THE SHOWER by Flux_brown	Sep 6th, 2006 09:54:00 PM
ah...the good ol eighties
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = CAMEL TOE by brokebackcowboy	Sep 6th, 2006 09:54:10 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = JANET JACKSON'S NIPPLE by GibsonUSA	Sep 6th, 2006 09:55:33 PM
Hey, I like Marc Summers!
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = YELLING AT THE WAITER BEFORE YOUR by brokebackcowboy	Sep 6th, 2006 09:56:18 PM
FOOD HAS BEEN SERVED.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = ELVIS IS STILL ALIVE. by GibsonUSA	Sep 6th, 2006 09:56:53 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = BRITNEY'S CHILDREN by brokebackcowboy	Sep 6th, 2006 09:57:39 PM
They don't stand a chance ...
How Joker should be played..... by Hairy Nutsack	Sep 6th, 2006 09:58:28 PM
The perfect example of how Joker should be played can be found in Dark Knight Returns (interesting parallel on the name there). In DHR Joker tricks Arkham into letting him go and the first thing he does is go on David Letterman and matter-of-factly proclaim "I'm going to kill everyone in this room.", and does it of course. In the next chapter he hands out posion cotton candy to kids. He is a being of ultimate evil that is capable of anything, and to him it's funny as hell. Once he pulls off some heinous crime, THAT'S when he laughs like a maniac, not while he's chasing Vicky Vale's skirt. I know they won't do it, but I'd fucking love it if they went for the R.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS= NOW ALL WE HAVE IS JEFF CORWIN by GibsonUSA	Sep 6th, 2006 09:58:40 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = RUSH LIMBAUGH'S UNDERWEAR by brokebackcowboy	Sep 6th, 2006 09:59:27 PM

MEGATRON HEADS LOOK! by messi	Sep 6th, 2006 10:00:11 PM
these are fan made and paramount is looking at them. first one is my fave http://img465.imageshack.us/im g465/5200/mymoviemeghead7webcp 1.jpg http://img182.imageshack.us/im g182/1866/mymoviemeghead6weblu 0.jpg http://img139.imageshack.us/im g139/2084/mymoviemeghead3webrc 2.jpg
gibson usa by Flux_brown	Sep 6th, 2006 10:00:53 PM
couldn't be more true dude
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = BURT REYNOLDS AS INDIANA JONES by GibsonUSA	Sep 6th, 2006 10:01:00 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = BURT WARD'S TIGHTS! by Flux_brown	Sep 6th, 2006 10:02:47 PM

TOM SELLECK by Flux_brown	Sep 6th, 2006 10:03:53 PM
was supposed to be indiana jones!
Y'know, if that $2.71 per post rumor is true... by Shermdawg	Sep 6th, 2006 10:04:11 PM
You've made Merrick a happy guy brokeback! :P
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = POLAR BEARS IN ARTIC by brokebackcowboy	Sep 6th, 2006 10:05:09 PM
The glaciers are melting. Please buy a hybrid.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = THE TURBOGRAFX-16 by GibsonUSA	Sep 6th, 2006 10:05:10 PM

Shermdawg by brokebackcowboy	Sep 6th, 2006 10:06:26 PM
What's that rumor? Merrick gets paid per post? What's my cut?
FLAMESONOPTIMUS = "HOOHOO I INVENTED EVERYTHING RAHBAN" by Immortal_Fish	Sep 6th, 2006 10:06:38 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = HANNA BARBARA'S GI JOE by GibsonUSA	Sep 6th, 2006 10:08:02 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = COURIC'S $42K/NIGHT SALARY by Immortal_Fish	Sep 6th, 2006 10:08:57 PM

messi, the third design is the best. by Shermdawg	Sep 6th, 2006 10:09:24 PM
Theres more detail, more going on. But it is still too human of a face to fit with the rest of the designs.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = AICN GAMES COLUMN by Immortal_Fish	Sep 6th, 2006 10:09:59 PM

Narration... by Flux_brown	Sep 6th, 2006 10:11:32 PM
and the quest for the perfect "FLAMES ON OPTIMUS" quote continues...the quote that will be the mother of all quotes, the quote that will be so great, peope will shed a tear over its greatness....and now, let's return to...."the quote to end all quotes"!
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = ANY SEASON OF AMERICAN IDOL by Immortal_Fish	Sep 6th, 2006 10:11:35 PM
Why was I the first to write this one?
brokebackcowboy by Shermdawg	Sep 6th, 2006 10:12:25 PM
The $2.71 per post rumor came up in one of Herc's talkbacks last year. It was never confirmed or denied. But if it is true, MERRICK LOVES YOU! lol
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = TOM DELAY'S TOUPEE SUPPLIER by brokebackcowboy	Sep 6th, 2006 10:13:12 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = JOHN CENA by GibsonUSA	Sep 6th, 2006 10:13:22 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = TOM BROKAW SAYING... by Immortal_Fish	Sep 6th, 2006 10:13:32 PM
"L.L. Cool J. glided lazily along the lower elevator."
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS =BILL PARCELLS AND TERRELL OWENS by GibsonUSA	Sep 6th, 2006 10:14:13 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = ELTON JOHN'S TOUPEE LAUNDERER by Immortal_Fish	Sep 6th, 2006 10:14:44 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=XENU by Flux_brown	Sep 6th, 2006 10:15:27 PM

Shermdawg by brokebackcowboy	Sep 6th, 2006 10:15:27 PM
That's cool, I like Merrick. And I made Moriarty and Quint some cash in the WTC TB too.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = NO MORE CHEF by Immortal_Fish	Sep 6th, 2006 10:16:35 PM
Search your feelings, Luke.
Also messi, how do y'know Paramount is lookin' at them? by Shermdawg	Sep 6th, 2006 10:16:51 PM
And even if they are looking at them, thats probably all they are doing. I'm sure there would be legal issues that would prevent them from doing anything more.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS= THOSE FRICKIN MAC COMMERCIALS! by Flux_brown	Sep 6th, 2006 10:17:16 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=JET LI'S PENIS vs ANNA NICOLES VAGINA by GibsonUSA	Sep 6th, 2006 10:18:23 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = JOCELYN WILDERSTEIN by brokebackcowboy	Sep 6th, 2006 10:19:26 PM
http://www.amiannoying.com/200 1/view.asp?ID=421
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS 2003 by Immortal_Fish	Sep 6th, 2006 10:19:47 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = APRIL 15TH by Immortal_Fish	Sep 6th, 2006 10:22:26 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = HAVING TO WORK TOMORROW! by Flux_brown	Sep 6th, 2006 10:22:49 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = DEADBEAT STALKER KRYPTONIAN by Immortal_Fish	Sep 6th, 2006 10:23:46 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = "THE SCRIPT YOU SAW ISNT FINAL" by GibsonUSA	Sep 6th, 2006 10:24:15 PM

That Jazz picture was Fucking Tight by Phategod2	Sep 6th, 2006 10:24:21 PM
I would sneak in opening night to see that with a Scatman crouthers sound-alike of course.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = FLAMES ON OPTIMUS by Immortal_Fish	Sep 6th, 2006 10:25:10 PM
The most obvious of them all. Meesa wins!
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = AICN's NEXT "UNEXPECTED" LEAK by GibsonUSA	Sep 6th, 2006 10:25:27 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = TED KENNEDY IN A ROWBOAT by Immortal_Fish	Sep 6th, 2006 10:26:06 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = HITLER WITHOUT REICHGUARD by Immortal_Fish	Sep 6th, 2006 10:27:23 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = CG VOLTRON by GibsonUSA	Sep 6th, 2006 10:28:26 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = PAUL McCARNTNEY'S SETTLEMENT by Immortal_Fish	Sep 6th, 2006 10:29:16 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=VANITY SMURF NOT BEING GAY by Flux_brown	Sep 6th, 2006 10:30:32 PM
C'mon...really?
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = HEATHER MILLS'S LEFT SHOE PILE by Immortal_Fish	Sep 6th, 2006 10:31:51 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=UNITED AIRLINES by GibsonUSA	Sep 6th, 2006 10:32:14 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = LANCE BASS & JOEY "FAT ONE" by Phategod2	Sep 6th, 2006 10:36:40 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = SHANNEN DOHERTY'S AGENT by brokebackcowboy	Sep 6th, 2006 10:40:30 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=PUNCHING A BABY by tile_mcgillus	Sep 6th, 2006 10:42:09 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=LISA LAMPANELLI'S VAGINA by tile_mcgillus	Sep 6th, 2006 10:43:08 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = LOGAN AIRPORT by Immortal_Fish	Sep 6th, 2006 10:43:10 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = SHANNEN DOHERTY'S FACIAL SCUBA GEAR by Immortal_Fish	Sep 6th, 2006 10:43:54 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = NEW COKE by Elmore Rigby	Sep 6th, 2006 10:44:03 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = BJORK'S DUCK DRESS by brokebackcowboy	Sep 6th, 2006 10:44:22 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=PARENT TRAP WITH LINDSAY LOHAN by tile_mcgillus	Sep 6th, 2006 10:44:32 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = PARIS HILTON SEX TAPE by Elmore Rigby	Sep 6th, 2006 10:44:43 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=CARSON FROM QUEER EYE by tile_mcgillus	Sep 6th, 2006 10:45:04 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = LANCE BASS NASA MRE POSTCONSUMPTION by Immortal_Fish	Sep 6th, 2006 10:45:30 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = GARY CHERONE IN VAN HALEN by GibsonUSA	Sep 6th, 2006 10:45:39 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=PEEWEE HERMAN SPANKING IT by tile_mcgillus	Sep 6th, 2006 10:45:59 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = BJORK'S ORGASM by Immortal_Fish	Sep 6th, 2006 10:46:35 PM
Even if you're hetero, you still lose.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = LYLE LOVETT ON JULIA ROBERTS by brokebackcowboy	Sep 6th, 2006 10:46:45 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=TEINAMEN SQUARE by tile_mcgillus	Sep 6th, 2006 10:47:03 PM

OooOOooHH!!, Great VH one, Gibs by Immortal_Fish	Sep 6th, 2006 10:47:14 PM

FLAMES ON PRIME=GEORGE W BUSHES 2ND TERM by Phategod2	Sep 6th, 2006 10:47:39 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=JOHN BOBBIT by tile_mcgillus	Sep 6th, 2006 10:47:43 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = ELTON JOHN SHARING HIS OPINION by brokebackcowboy	Sep 6th, 2006 10:48:10 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = HEZBOLLAH KIDNAPPING 2 SOLDIERS by brokebackcowboy	Sep 6th, 2006 10:49:10 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=R KELLY UNDERAGE GOLDEN SHOWER by tile_mcgillus	Sep 6th, 2006 10:49:45 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = DANIEL CRAIG AS JAMES BOND by GibsonUSA	Sep 6th, 2006 10:49:48 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS =FUZZY ZOELLERS FRIED CHICKEN COMMENT by Elmore Rigby	Sep 6th, 2006 10:50:04 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=TIMOTHY DAULTON AS JAMES BOND by Phategod2	Sep 6th, 2006 10:50:15 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = THE SECOND MOM IN FRESH PRINCE by GibsonUSA	Sep 6th, 2006 10:50:50 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = DON MURPHY'S CAREER AFTER TF by brokebackcowboy	Sep 6th, 2006 10:50:54 PM
Bye bye, Donny Two Chins.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=THE OSBOURNES by tile_mcgillus	Sep 6th, 2006 10:51:02 PM

GibsonUSA & brokebackcowboy by tile_mcgillus	Sep 6th, 2006 10:52:01 PM
Genius, FP second mom and donny two chins...this is too fun
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = MEL GIBSON'S "SPIRITUAL HEALING." by GibsonUSA	Sep 6th, 2006 10:52:26 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = PETE BEST'S CAREER PATH by Immortal_Fish	Sep 6th, 2006 10:52:31 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=JESSICA TANDY NAKED by tile_mcgillus	Sep 6th, 2006 10:52:41 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=GEORGE LAZENBY AS JAMES BOND by Phategod2	Sep 6th, 2006 10:52:43 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = ICEBERG AND THE TITANIC by brokebackcowboy	Sep 6th, 2006 10:53:01 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=HJ FROM A BEAR by tile_mcgillus	Sep 6th, 2006 10:53:15 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=CATWOMAN COSTUME by tile_mcgillus	Sep 6th, 2006 10:54:29 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = ZUCKER HUMOR POST AIRPLANE 1 by Immortal_Fish	Sep 6th, 2006 10:54:37 PM

Next time Don murphy does a Q&A by Phategod2	Sep 6th, 2006 10:54:41 PM
we should join in and all go under the screen name Donny two chins.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=THE MENDEZ BROS' AIM by tile_mcgillus	Sep 6th, 2006 10:55:02 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=CARROT TOP ON STERIODS by tile_mcgillus	Sep 6th, 2006 10:55:57 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = WILL SMITH by Immortal_Fish	Sep 6th, 2006 10:56:14 PM
Did you know that he's "urban"?
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = CARROT TOP W/O PROP by Immortal_Fish	Sep 6th, 2006 10:56:42 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=SUPERMAN DICK SHRINKER by tile_mcgillus	Sep 6th, 2006 10:56:44 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = EVERYONE ON THE SURREAL LIFE by brokebackcowboy	Sep 6th, 2006 10:56:57 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = NO SILVER SPOONS DVD BOX SET by GibsonUSA	Sep 6th, 2006 10:57:08 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=W/ PROP by tile_mcgillus	Sep 6th, 2006 10:57:16 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = LEIA LABOUSSH!! by Immortal_Fish	Sep 6th, 2006 10:57:58 PM
Yours now at Sideshow Collectables
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=CHUCK NORRIS by tile_mcgillus	Sep 6th, 2006 10:58:22 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=EVERQUEST 2 by tile_mcgillus	Sep 6th, 2006 10:59:28 PM

FOOLS!!! by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 6th, 2006 10:59:28 PM
You should all be banned. ;)
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = BECKY #2 ON ROSANNE by Elmore Rigby	Sep 6th, 2006 10:59:30 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = SKINNY JERRY O' CONNELL by GibsonUSA	Sep 6th, 2006 10:59:32 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = ARNOLD SCHWARTZENEGGER AS GOVERNOR by brokebackcowboy	Sep 6th, 2006 10:59:36 PM
California: Are you high on something?
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = THE MICHAEL RICHARDS SHOW by Elmore Rigby	Sep 6th, 2006 10:59:55 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=DON MURPHY'S WIT by tile_mcgillus	Sep 6th, 2006 11:00:35 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = M NIGHT'S CAREER SINCE SIXTH SENSE by Elmore Rigby	Sep 6th, 2006 11:00:43 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = INVESTORS IN DEMON DAVE'S 2ND MOVIE by brokebackcowboy	Sep 6th, 2006 11:01:44 PM
Like, why don't you just burn your money instead?
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=CONAN THE BARBARIAN'S SPEEDO by tile_mcgillus	Sep 6th, 2006 11:01:48 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = SEEING YOUR PARENTS HAVE SEX by brokebackcowboy	Sep 6th, 2006 11:02:47 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=LIONEL RICHIE'S VIDEOS by tile_mcgillus	Sep 6th, 2006 11:03:04 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS =SLY GETS $20 MIL FOR AVENGNG ANGELO by GibsonUSA	Sep 6th, 2006 11:03:39 PM
I like Stallone though. GO ROcky VI!
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = HAVING SEX WITH YOUR PARENTS by tile_mcgillus	Sep 6th, 2006 11:03:58 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = YOKO ONO by Elmore Rigby	Sep 6th, 2006 11:03:58 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = SEEING DONNY TWO CHINS HAVING SEX by Elmore Rigby	Sep 6th, 2006 11:05:02 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = MOMENT GEORGE LUCAS DECIDED by brokebackcowboy	Sep 6th, 2006 11:05:13 PM
TO MAKE THE PREQUELS.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = EARRING ON HARRISON FORD by brokebackcowboy	Sep 6th, 2006 11:06:23 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=HUGGING AN OBESE CHICK & UR ARMS SINK by GibsonUSA	Sep 6th, 2006 11:06:36 PM
ING IN.
Holy shit can't wait to see tomorrow's tally on this TB by brokebackcowboy	Sep 6th, 2006 11:07:35 PM
Good job guys!
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = HIPPIES ATTACKING SOLDIERS by GibsonUSA	Sep 6th, 2006 11:09:26 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = not LIONEL RICHIE'S VIDEOS by Immortal_Fish	Sep 6th, 2006 11:10:51 PM
Nowhere neaer as much as HAVING SEX WITH YOUR PARENTS. We must continue to strive for excellence, people. Have none of you read "What Moved My Cheese"??
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS= WEARING CAPS OVER HUGE CURLY HAIR by GibsonUSA	Sep 6th, 2006 11:11:22 PM

WHO CARES ABOUT THE FLAMES? THE DESIGN IS BAD ASS!!! by Shermdawg	Sep 6th, 2006 11:11:59 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = FAT GOTH CHICKS by GibsonUSA	Sep 6th, 2006 11:12:18 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = ORANGE JUICE AFTER TOOTHPASTE by GibsonUSA	Sep 6th, 2006 11:13:10 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS =FAT CHICK NOT KNOWING SHE IS PREGANT by tile_mcgillus	Sep 6th, 2006 11:13:30 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS= SAVED BY THE BELL:THE COLLEGE YEARS by GibsonUSA	Sep 6th, 2006 11:13:58 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = BREAST REDUCTIONS by tile_mcgillus	Sep 6th, 2006 11:14:06 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = GANGSTA MICKEY MOUSE by tile_mcgillus	Sep 6th, 2006 11:14:54 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=DISNEY AFTERNOON MINUS DUCKTALES by GibsonUSA	Sep 6th, 2006 11:16:00 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = GI JOES NEVER HURTING EACH OTHER by tile_mcgillus	Sep 6th, 2006 11:16:20 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = FIRST DAY OF GYM CLASS by tile_mcgillus	Sep 6th, 2006 11:16:59 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS= BEAGLE BOYS WIN by GibsonUSA	Sep 6th, 2006 11:17:10 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = HAVING TO SWALLOW PHELGM IN PUBLIC by GibsonUSA	Sep 6th, 2006 11:19:48 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = ANY MOVIE WITH PAUL WALKER by tile_mcgillus	Sep 6th, 2006 11:20:33 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = ORDERING A BIG KAHUNA BURGER by tile_mcgillus	Sep 6th, 2006 11:21:53 PM

for all Philly Fans by Phategod2	Sep 6th, 2006 11:30:38 PM
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=PITCH BY MITCH WILLIAMS TO JOE CARTER IN THE WORLD SERIES GAME 6.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = PAULA ABDUL'S SECOND MUSIC STINT by GibsonUSA	Sep 6th, 2006 11:35:28 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = HAMMERMAN CARTOON by GibsonUSA	Sep 6th, 2006 11:35:58 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = GO GO GADGET SUCK!! by GibsonUSA	Sep 6th, 2006 11:36:28 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = ACID WASHED JEANS by superninja	Sep 6th, 2006 11:36:47 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = WHATCHU TALKIN' BOUT, BAY?? by GibsonUSA	Sep 6th, 2006 11:37:02 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = HOWARD DEAN'S IOWA VICTORY SPEECH by Optimus Murphy	Sep 6th, 2006 11:37:54 PM
YEEEEEEEEARGHHHHHH!!!!!!!
So true, brokeback. So true. by superninja	Sep 6th, 2006 11:38:07 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=NOW THE WORLD DONT MOVE TO THE BEAT by GibsonUSA	Sep 6th, 2006 11:40:08 PM
OF JUST ONE DRUM, BUT WHAT IS RIGHT FOR BAY, IS ALSO RIGHT FOR NONE!
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = SEGA SATURN by Optimus Murphy	Sep 6th, 2006 11:40:25 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = PIMP MY DOUBLE WIDE by superninja	Sep 6th, 2006 11:41:41 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = Steven Seagal's Energy Drink by Optimus Murphy	Sep 6th, 2006 11:43:37 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=SALT ON SNAILS by GibsonUSA	Sep 6th, 2006 11:43:39 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = KANYE WEST ON A TELETHON by Optimus Murphy	Sep 6th, 2006 11:47:23 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = LEE BOYD MALVO by GibsonUSA	Sep 6th, 2006 11:47:50 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = SHUMACHER'S GLOWING BATMOBILE by GibsonUSA	Sep 6th, 2006 11:49:31 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS= MICHEAL BAY ENERGY DUST by Phategod2	Sep 6th, 2006 11:50:02 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = CINDERELLA 2, BAMBI 2, ALADDIN 2 by GibsonUSA	Sep 6th, 2006 11:50:46 PM

So... by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 6th, 2006 11:51:07 PM

Fuckin'... by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 6th, 2006 11:51:50 PM

GAY. by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 6th, 2006 11:52:18 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=MEDIA'S MISSING GIRL COVERAGE by GibsonUSA	Sep 6th, 2006 11:52:27 PM

Pocahontas 2 was good. by superninja	Sep 6th, 2006 11:52:33 PM

Hairy > next video by Chief Joseph	Sep 6th, 2006 11:53:13 PM
You should have this Movie Optimus retract his "battle mask" to reveal Corky from Life Goes On.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = TAZ/TWEETY ON CAR ACCESSORIES by superninja	Sep 6th, 2006 11:53:52 PM
I'm sorry, Mr. Nice Gaius, but I am compelled!
Flaming Optimus is the new Hip Hop Tweety Bird by superninja	Sep 6th, 2006 11:54:56 PM

OT: The new show with Matthew Perry looks terrible. by superninja	Sep 6th, 2006 11:56:03 PM

Superninja - THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU! by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 6th, 2006 11:58:17 PM

THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU! by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 6th, 2006 11:58:44 PM

THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU! by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 6th, 2006 11:59:06 PM

THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU! by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 6th, 2006 11:59:29 PM

THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU! by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 7th, 2006 12:00:00 AM

THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU! by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 7th, 2006 12:00:27 AM

THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU! by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 7th, 2006 12:01:02 AM

THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU! by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 7th, 2006 12:01:51 AM

THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU! by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 7th, 2006 12:02:27 AM

THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU! by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 7th, 2006 12:02:53 AM

This House Is Clear by blackwood	Sep 7th, 2006 12:04:51 AM

"This house is CLEAN" by Phategod2	Sep 7th, 2006 12:06:18 AM

Well, I am a Christian. But I am quite by superninja	Sep 7th, 2006 12:08:03 AM
sure Jesus had nothing to do with what I've been typing.
Maybe this movie will be like the new by superninja	Sep 7th, 2006 12:12:07 AM
Rocky Horror Picture Show? Maybe it just needs some musical numbers and years from now kids will be dressing up as Flaming Optimus?
Does anyone else think this things is starting by superninja	Sep 7th, 2006 12:14:14 AM
to come off as really campy, what with that script and the increasingly bad designs? Once it's filmed and they realize how awful the story is, then they're going to have to fix in. Most likely by writing additional bad dialogue for the robots to exchanges (along the lines of Cybertronian You Mamma jokes). That's kind of what they've mention has been added - more robologue.
Wow, that needed a grammar check. Apologies. by superninja	Sep 7th, 2006 12:15:46 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = CGI PICTURES OF TOMKAT'S "BABY" by Optimus Murphy	Sep 7th, 2006 12:22:04 AM

So instead of remembering prime by Phategod2	Sep 7th, 2006 12:22:55 AM
as heroic I got remember him as a MO
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = FAKE LINDSEY LOHAN COOTER PHOTO by Optimus Murphy	Sep 7th, 2006 12:24:41 AM

For I minute there I bet ya thought it worked MNG. :) by superninja	Sep 7th, 2006 12:27:00 AM

Fan Concepts by darthwalters	Sep 7th, 2006 01:34:32 AM
Just to offer a little half time opinion in the FLAMES ON OPTIMUS jokes, I think those fan concepts are pretty bad ass. The one's of Megatron are about a 120% improvement over his current face, and the one of Jazz is right on the money. I'd love to see what they come up with for the other Transformers. Anyway, carry on my wayward friends.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = BREAK'IN 2: ELECTRIC BOOGALOO by darthwalters	Sep 7th, 2006 01:35:24 AM
Just so you don't think I'm slacking.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = HYPER COLOR SHIRTS by darthwalters	Sep 7th, 2006 01:36:19 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = FANNY PACKS ON GROWN MEN by darthwalters	Sep 7th, 2006 01:37:06 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = DAISY DUKES ON A DONNY TWO CHINS by darthwalters	Sep 7th, 2006 01:39:09 AM
I pass the ball back to your court my friends.
MESSI by darthwalters	Sep 7th, 2006 02:03:41 AM
Hey messi, where did you happen to score those fanart concepts anyway? Were there other submissions? Did they do the other characters? I always thought that this fan concept of Bumblebee would have been pretty sweet to see on screen - http://tinyurl.com/z9gks
crap by Edison	Sep 7th, 2006 02:05:34 AM

OPTIMUS REDUX by darthwalters	Sep 7th, 2006 02:23:19 AM
Not saying these should be finals, but they should have hired this kid. His take is a lot closer to what people would love to see. Here's his take on Optimus. http://tinyurl.com/qkax3
MEGATRON BODY WORK by darthwalters	Sep 7th, 2006 02:29:12 AM
Here is Tim's take on a full body Megatron makeover. Can't say it doesn't need work, but looks pretty spiffy so far. http://tinyurl.com/plrtl
STARSCREAM REBORN by darthwalters	Sep 7th, 2006 02:48:59 AM
A full body reimagining and two of Tim Shinn's head designs. Don't know about you, but this is a huge improvement over the flying chickenbug that leaked. http://tinyurl.com/zesdz http://tinyurl.com/zpqg6 http://tinyurl.com/h7oet
Chief Joseph, re: video... by Hairy Nutsack	Sep 7th, 2006 03:16:36 AM
You know that's a pretty damn good idea Joe! LMAO
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=SIDESHOW COLLECTIBLES BOND FIGURES by Hairy Nutsack	Sep 7th, 2006 03:18:13 AM

Ganymede read what I wrote by Lost Prophet	Sep 7th, 2006 03:54:07 AM
I don't particularly care about the designs. I have said repeatedly that I actually quite like the optimus design. My problems are all in different areas. Fuck blocky robots. I couldn't give less of a toss- But it is really not that hard to not paint flames on optimus. Not having your major villain look like a giant low rent geiger inspired turd etc. Apply some of that logic to what I actually wrote, not what you think I wrote.
Yes, it by CuervoJones	Sep 7th, 2006 04:08:14 AM

darth, breakin2 was the shit. by narcosleepy	Sep 7th, 2006 04:32:47 AM
i lost my virginity to that movie.
EXCELLENT fan art! by ScarranHalfBreed	Sep 7th, 2006 04:34:28 AM
That Megatron one is really creepy. This is why films based on existing merchandise should be made by fans and not by those who simply want to blow things up and film it.
narcosleepy by darthwalters	Sep 7th, 2006 04:34:40 AM
Was it the scene where he breaks on the walls and ceiling? I could see that amping up the sexual tension in the theater because of its amazing awesomeness.
flames on optimus = "flames on optimus = flames on opti by foree forehead	Sep 7th, 2006 05:01:51 AM
mus" jokes
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = NU METAL by foree forehead	Sep 7th, 2006 05:03:15 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = bush under oval office desk.. by foree forehead	Sep 7th, 2006 05:04:31 AM
..looking for wmds
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = circumcision by foree forehead	Sep 7th, 2006 05:05:07 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = POINT GUITARS by foree forehead	Sep 7th, 2006 05:06:13 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = CORRECTING YOUR POST IN.. by foree forehead	Sep 7th, 2006 05:06:58 AM
..THE NEXT ONE
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = THE WORD "ISSUES" by foree forehead	Sep 7th, 2006 05:28:53 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=HOMEWRECKER'S BLOG by Lost Prophet	Sep 7th, 2006 05:29:45 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = weathered wall-hangings at chain.. by foree forehead	Sep 7th, 2006 05:30:26 AM
..restaurants
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS= ROBIN RELIANT by Lost Prophet	Sep 7th, 2006 05:30:42 AM
for all you Americans (I think you were spared it) It was a car that some genius thought only needed 3 wheels
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = DAVID BECKHAM by foree forehead	Sep 7th, 2006 05:30:53 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = BULLET TIME by foree forehead	Sep 7th, 2006 05:32:31 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=MCDONALD'S SALAD by Lost Prophet	Sep 7th, 2006 05:32:37 AM
pointless and unnecessary
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=SVEN GORAN ERIKSSON by Lost Prophet	Sep 7th, 2006 05:33:14 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = man pushing shopping cart... by foree forehead	Sep 7th, 2006 05:33:40 AM
..with one hand
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = MILTON KEYNES DONS by foree forehead	Sep 7th, 2006 05:34:18 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = the thing i did with the thing by foree forehead	Sep 7th, 2006 05:36:26 AM
..to quote principle blackman
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=TOM HANKS by Lost Prophet	Sep 7th, 2006 05:36:36 AM
WINNING AN OSCAR FOR TALKING SLOWLY IN FORREST GUMP
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS= by Lost Prophet	Sep 7th, 2006 05:37:16 AM
ELLEN BURSTYN NOT WINNING AN OSCAR FOR REQUIEM FOR A DREAM
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=TAKE THAT REFORMING by Lost Prophet	Sep 7th, 2006 05:37:53 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = MAN WITH BRACES by foree forehead	Sep 7th, 2006 05:40:21 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = WOMEN WITH BRACES by Lost Prophet	Sep 7th, 2006 05:53:36 AM
or suspenders or whatever the fuck Americans call them. I know what I mean- even if no one else does
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = DEFECTIVE FOAM ON A SPACE SHUTTLE by brokebackcowboy	Sep 7th, 2006 05:53:37 AM
That one came to me in a dream ... Donny Two Chins takes it in the ass. By a woman with a cucumber.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=HALF LIGHT by Lost Prophet	Sep 7th, 2006 05:54:54 AM
a god awful demi moore "supernatural" film set in scotland. Except the street signs are written in Welsh. Basically a shit film
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS= STRIPPER AT DUKE LACROSSE TEAM PARTY by brokebackcowboy	Sep 7th, 2006 05:56:46 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = BOTH EXORCIST PREQUELS by brokebackcowboy	Sep 7th, 2006 05:58:28 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=LIONS GATE NOT RELEASING by Lost Prophet	Sep 7th, 2006 05:59:00 AM
FIERCE PEOPLE
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=COLEEN ROONEY by Lost Prophet	Sep 7th, 2006 05:59:29 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = GEORGE MICHAEL GOING INTO PUBLIC by brokebackcowboy	Sep 7th, 2006 06:00:12 AM
BATHROOM. Bad shit ensues.
LP by brokebackcowboy	Sep 7th, 2006 06:00:54 AM
That one was a shoutout to England! HAWW
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS= THE COP THAT CAUGHT by Lost Prophet	Sep 7th, 2006 06:02:22 AM
GEORGE MICHAEL WITH HIS NOB OUT SUING. That still makes me laugh. Brokeback, that duke lacrosse reference was fucking horrid
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = BUSH WITH FINGER ON THE BUTTON by brokebackcowboy	Sep 7th, 2006 06:04:08 AM
What did humanity do to deserve this?
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=TOM CRUISE'S CHINESE BABY by Lost Prophet	Sep 7th, 2006 06:05:11 AM
It's blatant. I could not believe that photo- that baby is from the orient I tells ya. Or it is a thetan. It's not fucking his anyway
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = SPINNING RIMS by brokebackcowboy	Sep 7th, 2006 06:08:51 AM
WTF?
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=SCIENTOLOGY by Lost Prophet	Sep 7th, 2006 06:10:24 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=POSTING ON AINTITCOOL WHILE AT WORK by Lost Prophet	Sep 7th, 2006 06:11:30 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=ELTON JOHN'S FLOWER BILL by Lost Prophet	Sep 7th, 2006 06:15:49 AM
200K on flowers. WTF?. That is the last one of these I am doing. Unless I think of a funny one, as the last few haven't been that clever
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = THE DRUNK FRENCHMAN by brokebackcowboy	Sep 7th, 2006 06:21:56 AM
DRIVING PRINCESS DIANA AND DODI FAYED. Fuck the papparazzi.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = JUGGFUCKLING YOURSELF by brokebackcowboy	Sep 7th, 2006 06:23:47 AM
IN YOUR CUBICLE ... if you get caught that is.
right, I have to now- been provoked by brokeback by Lost Prophet	Sep 7th, 2006 06:24:34 AM
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=BRITISH PRESS DRAGGING DIANA'S DEATH UP EVERY FUCKING DAY EVEN THOUGH IT HAPPENED FUCKING YEARS AGO.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = CAMILLA PARKER BOWELS by brokebackcowboy	Sep 7th, 2006 06:27:55 AM
That was a deliberate misspelling .... heeee!
I don't have a cubicle by Lost Prophet	Sep 7th, 2006 06:28:24 AM
that makes me sad. No juggfuckling myself at work. I'm not into exhibitionism.
Later, LP by brokebackcowboy	Sep 7th, 2006 06:32:16 AM
Gotta get to work and juggfuckle myself before people get in. I'm using a sock and some olive oil today. BWAHAHAAAAHAHA
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = the pervasive smell of cinamon buns by foree forehead	Sep 7th, 2006 06:57:22 AM
..at every shopping mall in north america.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = WATER WINGS by foree forehead	Sep 7th, 2006 06:59:09 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = new Comets on Fire album by foree forehead	Sep 7th, 2006 07:03:53 AM

I hate shia labeouf by Lost Prophet	Sep 7th, 2006 07:11:14 AM
The last thing I want to see is that little turd fondler crying over his new car turning into a giant alien robot. He was garbage in Constantine, irritating in I, Robot so the thought of some coked up idiot structuring a film round this little tosser makes my skin crawl. Especially given that the little fucker has "creative control", Ganymede I reread your post and you really should have paid attention to what I wrote. So in honour of that: FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=PEOPLE WHO POST ANSWERS THAT MISS THE POINT BECAUSE THEY EITHER DIDN'T READ THE ORIGINAL POST OR WERE TOO STUPID TO UNDERSTAND IT.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = mistaking that BIB FORTUNA model.. by foree forehead	Sep 7th, 2006 07:20:05 AM
..for don murphy. actually no, no that's not flames on optimus at all.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = wet handtowel dispenser lever by foree forehead	Sep 7th, 2006 07:23:38 AM

I was. Bay is the coked up tool I was referring to by Lost Prophet	Sep 7th, 2006 07:35:03 AM
AND FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=SMOKING BEING BANNED IN PUBS. It's not here yet, but it's coming. I hate haveing to break up my catnip to go outside and get rained on while I smoke.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = MY DEMON LOVER by Dolph	Sep 7th, 2006 07:40:37 AM

what the fuck is my demon lover? by Lost Prophet	Sep 7th, 2006 07:58:03 AM
is it that shit where the guy morphs into a demon every time he gets a boner. Fuck, you guys remember some shitty films that I seem to have missed.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=UWE BOLL WINING HIS BOXING MATCH by tile_mcgillus	Sep 7th, 2006 08:02:39 AM
He won his first one with one of the 5 critics he is fighting. I hope he gets destroyed by at least one of them.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=FINDING OUT YOUR ADOPTED by tile_mcgillus	Sep 7th, 2006 08:05:03 AM

fuck, they are already happening by Lost Prophet	Sep 7th, 2006 08:05:28 AM
where's juggfuckler when we need him. FLAMES ON OPTIMUS= THE EU. Bear with me on this one. The EU started out as one thing, then the people got systematically lied to and it morphed from the EEC to this federalist, corrupt, incompetent monster that we have now.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=JUGGFUCKLER LOSING TO DEMON DAVE by Lost Prophet	Sep 7th, 2006 08:14:39 AM
Say it ain't so- the fight looks like it is off. :(
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=EEC? by tile_mcgillus	Sep 7th, 2006 08:17:41 AM
LP please elaborate on why the EEC is so bad, I mean after all didnt they give you the Euro......
EEC and the EU by tile_mcgillus	Sep 7th, 2006 08:30:22 AM
The European Economic Community (EEC) was an organization established (1958) by treaty between the ECSC countries Belgium, France, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, and West Germany, known informally as the Common Market (the Six). The EEC was the most significant of the three treaty organizations that were consolidated in 1967 to form the European Community (EC; known since the ratification 1993 of the Maastricht treaty as the European Union, EU). The EEC had as its aim the eventual economic union of its member nations, ultimately leading to political union. It worked for the free movement of goods, service, labour and capital, the abolition of trusts and cartels, and the development of joint and reciprocal policies on labour, social welfare, agriculture, transport, and foreign trade. In 1956, the United Kingdom proposed that the Common Market be incorporated into a wide European free-trade area. After the proposal was vetoed by President Charles de Gaulle and France in November 1958, the UK together with Sweden engineered the formation (1960) of the European Free Trade Association (EFTA) and was joined by other European nations that did not belong to the Common Market (the Seven). Beginning in 1973, with British, Irish, and Danish accession to the EEC, the EFTA and the EEC negotiated a series of agreements that would ensure uniformity between the two organisations in many areas of economic policy, and by 1995, all but four EFTA members had joined the European Union. One of the first important accomplishments of the EEC was the establishment (1962) of common price levels for agricultural products. In 1968, internal tariffs (tariffs on trade between member nations) were removed on certain products. The EEC than morphed into the EU. The European Union (EU) is an intergovernmental and supranational union of 25 democratic member states. The European Union was established under that name in 1992 by the Treaty on European Union (the Maastricht Treaty). However, many aspects of the Union existed before that date through a series of predecessor relationships, dating back to 1951.[1] The Union currently has a common single market consisting of a customs union, a single currency managed by the European Central Bank (so far adopted by 12 of the 25 member states), a Common Agricultural Policy, a common trade policy, and a Common Fisheries Policy.[2] A Common Foreign and Security Policy was also established as the second of the three pillars of the European Union. The Schengen Agreement abolished passport control, and customs checks were also abolished at many of the EU's internal borders, creating a single space of mobility for EU citizens to live, travel, work and invest. [3] The most important EU institutions include the Council of Ministers, the European Commission, the European Court of Justice, the European Parliament, the European Council, and the European Central Bank. The European Parliament's origins go back to the 1950s and the founding treaties, and since 1979 its members have been elected by the people they represent. Every five years elections are held in which registered EU citizens may vote. The European Union's activities cover most areas of public policy, from economic policy to foreign affairs, defence, agriculture and trade. However, the extent of its powers differs greatly among areas. In some the EU may resemble a federation (e.g. on monetary affairs, agricultural, trade and environmental policy, economic and social policy), in others a confederation (e.g. on home affairs), and in yet others an international organisation (e.g. in foreign affairs). GOD I LOVE WIKIPEDIA.
the eec and the eu are 2 seperate entities by Lost Prophet	Sep 7th, 2006 08:33:12 AM
and we don't have the fucking euro and we don't want it either. Same goes for the ECHR and their shitty constitution as well. The EEC that Britain voted to enter in the 70's was a free trade organisation. Fair enough, no problem with that. It has gradually morphed into becoming effectively a federal body. The EU has the power to override our laws, we have to pay an obscene amount of money into the fucker for very little back, It is an unelected, unrepresentative fiasco. Ask the Germans how good the Euro is for them. One size does not fit all. Basically the analogy was that we were promised one thing and it turns out we have been given something else entirely. Finally there is the European Commision (or whatever the fuck it calls itself) which is one of the most notoriously corrupt bodies on the planet. What really gets my goat though is that that corrupt twat Mandelson (who should be in prison for fraud) is Britain's representative to it, and also European Commisioner in charge of trade and industry. The whole mess is a bloody scandal, and while the CAP exists I will remain pissed off about it. Sorry that was dull. Rant over.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = BUNTING TO BREAK UP A NO HITTER by Ricky Henderson	Sep 7th, 2006 08:36:09 AM
Thats a baseball joke you fools. If you're familiar with the concept, you'll realize that only Hitler would bunt to break up a no-hitter.
and just to ram it home by Lost Prophet	Sep 7th, 2006 08:37:44 AM
we can't deport that hook handed islamofascist until he has pissed away hundreds of thousands of pounds (tax payer money)in legal fees taking his case to the European Court of Human Rights. I hate the EU- and not in a daily mail fascist type of way.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = MIXING POLITICS AND TRANSFORMERS :) by tile_mcgillus	Sep 7th, 2006 08:38:54 AM

I know. I wish I hadn't. by Lost Prophet	Sep 7th, 2006 08:40:46 AM
I was just feeling clever at the time, and someone in the office suggested it. FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=REALISING YOU ARE NOT AS SMART AS YOU THINK YOU ARE AND FEELING LIKE A BIT OF A CUNT FOR SPOILING A GOOD RUNNING JOKE.
and to lower the tone and get back on track by Lost Prophet	Sep 7th, 2006 08:43:55 AM
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=WAKING UP IN THE MORINING AND REALISING THAT FAT BIRD NEXT TO YOU IS THAT "STUNNER" YOU PULLED IN THE PUB LAST NIGHT. Curse you Catnip Goggles.
shit by Lost Prophet	Sep 7th, 2006 08:45:57 AM
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=TYPOS IN "AMUSING" FLAMES ON OPTIMUS JOKE THUS RENDERING IT GIBBERISH
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=GIRLFRIEND WITH GONNERHEA by tile_mcgillus	Sep 7th, 2006 08:47:31 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=THE MISSUS LETTING HERSELF GO. by Lost Prophet	Sep 7th, 2006 08:50:49 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=JALEEL WHITE'S CAREER by tile_mcgillus	Sep 7th, 2006 08:55:39 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS= MIKE TYSON'S FACE TATTOO by tile_mcgillus	Sep 7th, 2006 08:56:36 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = HARRY'S BLADE 2 REVIEW by Ricky Henderson	Sep 7th, 2006 08:57:07 AM
there, I said it
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = NEW COKE by Badger999	Sep 7th, 2006 08:57:26 AM
...Coca-Cola gave us their new and modernized version, which was universally rejected. We wanted - and got - our CLASSIC Coke. So, bring on CLASSIC PRIME!
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=SHIA LEBEOUF'S CAREER by Lost Prophet	Sep 7th, 2006 08:57:37 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = THE BOSTON RED SOX IN AUGUST by Ricky Henderson	Sep 7th, 2006 08:59:34 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS= by Lost Prophet	Sep 7th, 2006 08:59:37 AM
SEVERE LACK OF COOL NEWS THUS FORCING ME TO WHILE AWAY THE TIME AT WORK TYPING LAME FLAMES ON OPTIMUS= JOKES INTO A TALK BACK.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=HOWARD THE DUCK by tile_mcgillus	Sep 7th, 2006 08:59:59 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = STEVE IRWIN'S DEATH by Ricky Henderson	Sep 7th, 2006 09:01:10 AM

noooooo by Lost Prophet	Sep 7th, 2006 09:02:37 AM
Howard the Duck rocks. How can you compare that to FLAMES ON OPTIMUS. Scandalous.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=BARBIE DIVORCING KEN by tile_mcgillus	Sep 7th, 2006 09:03:40 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS= HOWARD THE DUCK THE MOVIE by tile_mcgillus	Sep 7th, 2006 09:05:33 AM

NOOOOOOO by Lost Prophet	Sep 7th, 2006 09:06:10 AM
stop cussing the duck. Howard the Duck the movie is genius,
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=FINDING OUT YOUR DAD IS GAY by tile_mcgillus	Sep 7th, 2006 09:06:20 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = 1ST PERIOD FRENCH by Ricky Henderson	Sep 7th, 2006 09:06:37 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=LACK OF EDIT BUTTON by Lost Prophet	Sep 7th, 2006 09:06:42 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=FINDING OUT YOUR MUM IS YOUR DAD by Lost Prophet	Sep 7th, 2006 09:07:41 AM
Yuck.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=LIKING THE HOWARD THE DUCK MOVIE :) by tile_mcgillus	Sep 7th, 2006 09:07:47 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=PICKING ON HOWARD THE DUCK by Lost Prophet	Sep 7th, 2006 09:08:48 AM
you big bully you
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=INDIANA JONES AGE JOKES by Ricky Henderson	Sep 7th, 2006 09:10:04 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=SITTING THROUGH TITANIC BECAUSE by Lost Prophet	Sep 7th, 2006 09:10:38 AM
SOMEONE TOLD YOU THAT KATE WINSLET GETS HER TITS OUT. I fell for that. I felt pretty bloody stupid, and pissed off afterwards.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=BUDWEISER by Lost Prophet	Sep 7th, 2006 09:12:31 AM
beat that. Bet you can't
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=BARBIE GETTING A BREAST REDUCTION by AGE IIX	Sep 7th, 2006 09:12:55 AM

FLAMES ON PRIME=SMALLVILLE by Ricky Henderson	Sep 7th, 2006 09:13:10 AM
yeah you know its true sherm
What an utter waste of bandwidth. by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 7th, 2006 09:14:27 AM
You all should be ASHAMED of yourselves. I mean, look at you. I come in here and you waste my time like this. Have you learned nothing?
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=MILWAUKEE'S BEST by Ricky Henderson	Sep 7th, 2006 09:14:43 AM

you came in a Transformers talkback to learn something? by Lost Prophet	Sep 7th, 2006 09:16:09 AM
have you learnt nothing? This is the home of ill informed rants and amusing insults.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=COMING HERE TO LEARN SOMETHING by Lost Prophet	Sep 7th, 2006 09:16:42 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=BEING ASHAMED OF YOURSELF by tile_mcgillus	Sep 7th, 2006 09:17:09 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=BEING CHIDED BY MR NICE GAIUS by Ricky Henderson	Sep 7th, 2006 09:17:34 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=BEING EATEN BY A BEAR by tile_mcgillus	Sep 7th, 2006 09:18:00 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = ACROSS'T with a T by foree forehead	Sep 7th, 2006 09:18:52 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=BEING SHAGGED BY A BEAR by Lost Prophet	Sep 7th, 2006 09:19:45 AM
and then eaten, obviously. Them grizzlies get hungry after sex,
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = MEGATRON'S DESIGN FOR TF2007 by foree forehead	Sep 7th, 2006 09:20:02 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = MR NICE GAIUS by AGE IIX	Sep 7th, 2006 09:21:03 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = DOLPH LUNDGREN by Frankenblogger	Sep 7th, 2006 09:22:18 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=TIT FUCKING DON MURPHY by tile_mcgillus	Sep 7th, 2006 09:22:39 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = ANAL LEAKAGE by AGE IIX	Sep 7th, 2006 09:23:01 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=TRANSFORMERS 2007 by Lost Prophet	Sep 7th, 2006 09:25:51 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=FLORAL PRINT ON OPTIMUS by tile_mcgillus	Sep 7th, 2006 09:29:00 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=SUMMER 2006'S MOVIES by Lost Prophet	Sep 7th, 2006 09:30:09 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=BELIEVING IN CREATIONISM by tile_mcgillus	Sep 7th, 2006 09:33:18 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=EVOLVING FROM APES!?! by tile_mcgillus	Sep 7th, 2006 09:33:58 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=ORGANISED RELIGION by Lost Prophet	Sep 7th, 2006 09:35:30 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=NO ALCOHOL BEER by Lost Prophet	Sep 7th, 2006 09:36:12 AM
no point to that
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=VOTING FOR JEB BUSH IN 2008 by Ricky Henderson	Sep 7th, 2006 09:37:22 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = MIXING POLITICS AND TRANSFORMERS :) by Lost Prophet	Sep 7th, 2006 09:40:20 AM
result! what sort of cunt would vote for him anywat
MAN THATS FUCKING HORRIBLE!!!! by nords	Sep 7th, 2006 09:42:58 AM
I HATE IT !!!!! BAYS YOU FUCKED EVERYTHING!!!
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=9/11 by Ricky Henderson	Sep 7th, 2006 09:44:30 AM
hows that for ridiculously over the top?
well. That's done it. by Lost Prophet	Sep 7th, 2006 09:45:19 AM
All of a sudden this is in bad taste. We need a new interview or something.
but... by Lost Prophet	Sep 7th, 2006 09:46:12 AM
as it only occured to me late, and it's a cracker to finish my contribution on:
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=FAT CHICK IN A MINISKIRT by Lost Prophet	Sep 7th, 2006 09:46:44 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = SNES VERSION OF MORTAL KOMBAT by Optimus Murphy	Sep 7th, 2006 09:49:03 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = A.I.D.S. by Optimus Murphy	Sep 7th, 2006 09:50:00 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = BEER GOGGLES by Optimus Murphy	Sep 7th, 2006 09:50:43 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = FIGHTING THE 3 STORMS ALL AT ONCE by Optimus Murphy	Sep 7th, 2006 09:53:15 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = DUDES WEARING PINK SHIRTS by Optimus Murphy	Sep 7th, 2006 09:54:51 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = F.U.P.A. by Optimus Murphy	Sep 7th, 2006 09:55:55 AM
It's a medical condition.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = THE ZONE by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 7th, 2006 10:05:59 AM
Doh!
yeah, lets agree never to do this anymore, ok? by Ricky Henderson	Sep 7th, 2006 10:18:12 AM
That 9/11 joke was kind of intended to put an end to all these jokes. My bad if it was too nasty.
Wow, as funny as these posts are by Jak0lantern01	Sep 7th, 2006 10:18:16 AM
they are really driving home the notion that flames on Prime suck. Some really funny stuff out there.
Yeah, Ricky by Lost Prophet	Sep 7th, 2006 10:20:10 AM
It stopped me. I just had one left to do after that.
Flames on Optimus=500+ Million Box office! by ganymede2010	Sep 7th, 2006 10:37:46 AM
You seen the other prototype desgin. He looked dull without the flames. Good Job ILM! That's why you're there and we're here;)
Damnit, I made Harry money? by Ricky Henderson	Sep 7th, 2006 10:39:15 AM
I'm bored and kind of tempted to start the jokes up again. Um, what if I were to say "FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=THE ANIME SECTION ON AICN" ? Would that be something you'd be interested in? (That's my Bob Ryan impression from "Entourage")
Batman? by Lost Prophet	Sep 7th, 2006 10:42:02 AM
I missed it last night. Or how about man cats? and Ganymede- Flames on optimus=your opinion. I am sure you are just trying to inflame it again.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=GANYMEDE'S INTEGRITY by Ricky Henderson	Sep 7th, 2006 10:42:46 AM
...always nice to see you plant.
MEGATRON'S DESIGN PRE-EARTH CRASH? by moto	Sep 7th, 2006 10:46:35 AM
Here's a thought. Now, I don't like the Megatron thing. I'm thinking that IF they use this design, it will only be for the time period before they crash land on Earth. After that, ALL of the transformers undergo a transformation (pun intended), changing their bodies to resemble Earth vehicles. You'll see that the Megatron graphic also states that this represents the alien craft version. Remember during the G1 opening episode, all of the Transformers were different ALIEN vehicles and then when they crash landed, the scout bot scanned Earth vehicles, thus changing what the transformers looked like. I know, when they weren't transformed, they looked the same as they did pre-Earth, but hey, it was a kid's show. As far as good ole Optimus goes? I love it, except for the flames. But again, these are early designs.
that's what we all hope Moto by Lost Prophet	Sep 7th, 2006 10:48:32 AM
however, bearing in mind that Megatron spends the whole film frozen in ice before popping out at the end it is unlikely that he will have an alternative form.
Flames on Optimus=REALITY! by ganymede2010	Sep 7th, 2006 10:48:40 AM
Deal with it:)-
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = not being able to travel to another by foree forehead	Sep 7th, 2006 11:05:30 AM
plane of the multiverse where there are no michael bays, no jugglin' chinned murphys, and no flames on optimus.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = my mother calling me up saying by foree forehead	Sep 7th, 2006 11:09:22 AM
flames on optimus!
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=PLANT IN TALKBACK by Lost Prophet	Sep 7th, 2006 11:11:54 AM
yes ganymede2010 I am takling about you. Yes, we do know that it is reality, but that doesn't prohinit anyone comlpaining/ cracking jokes about it.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = scrolling LED basketball scores on by foree forehead	Sep 7th, 2006 11:14:37 AM
top of taxicab followed by the words "FLAMES ON OPTIMUS"
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = where do i put the plunger now by foree forehead	Sep 7th, 2006 11:15:13 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = DALEKS + STAIRS by foree forehead	Sep 7th, 2006 11:16:36 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=AICN ANIME COLUMN by Ricky Henderson	Sep 7th, 2006 11:17:19 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = megan fox's patented "shrug acting" by foree forehead	Sep 7th, 2006 11:19:24 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = typing "FIRST!" this far down a TB by foree forehead	Sep 7th, 2006 11:20:53 AM

FIRST! by foree forehead	Sep 7th, 2006 11:21:14 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=LIVING NEXT DOOR TO A PEDAREST by Ricky Henderson	Sep 7th, 2006 11:21:19 AM

Let's transform this movie into a bomb! by Badger999	Sep 7th, 2006 11:23:13 AM
There's a lot of us who don't like the direction this movie is being handled. Let's vote on it in the only way that matters... with our wallets. Get a bootleg copy and watch it first. If you know anyone interested in seeing the movie... give them a copy of the bootleg. Let's NOT spend any more of our money on movies that are NOT what we want to see. We shouldn't pay to see a TINO movie. And if I'm wrong, and it ends up being cool (and I'd like to believe that), then go spend money on it - see it in the theater and buy the DVD. Do not obey Don Murphy, Michael Bay, Dreamworks, or anyone else in Hollywood... we, as individuals, control the money, and that is the means by which we control them. The only way they're going to stop fucking up things we enjoy is when we stop PAYING them to do it!
I had to put this to Knowthyself by Lost Prophet	Sep 7th, 2006 11:28:29 AM
but it also applies on this side. We cannot turn this into a bomb. We are simply not enough. It's a pity but it is true. The best we can hope for is to whine about it and hopefully some of the worst atrocities will be taken out. We can ignore it when it comes out, and it will make less money, but really all we can do is voice our negative opinions and keep our fingers crossed that someone is paying attention- this doesn't look likely, we can but dream.
Some Corrections by adonais	Sep 7th, 2006 11:39:21 AM
To KNOWTHYSELF, in a way they DID turn Prime into a Gorilla. Look at his face sans plate. To LOSTPROPHET, Gwen Stacy never was the next door neighbor in the original continuity, you're probably thinking of how Mary Jane's aunt lived next to Peter's aunt. Also, who ever said that following G1 concepts and designs meant blocky designs for the movie. I think we all would have liked to see them be more sophisticated than the cartoon. And KNOWTHYSELF, just because I ocassionally post on TalkBack when I'm bored at work doesn't mean I'm not getting laid every night by a woman hotter than most men will ever even touch. CABSAU, the reason people are upset is because as you say Bay will probably cause it to bomb, when it could have been a good, fun sci-fi flick in someone elses hands. And MESSI, how do you know what pornstars think about this flick? And do pornstars realy have the credential to criticize? lol
I'm squishing your head!! by adonais	Sep 7th, 2006 11:42:02 AM
After seeing Optimus's head I'm half afraid that Optimus and Megatron are going to end up reenacting the classic Kids in the Hall skit.
I second that as well by Lost Prophet	Sep 7th, 2006 11:42:13 AM
When I told the missus that there was a Transformers film coming she nearly cried with laughter. When I told her it was directed by Michael Bay she threatened me with the complete works of Sandra Bullock. Your average punter does not give a toss about TF- the hardcore fans do, and the opening weekend crowd that watch any old shit do. This is why I am surprised that they are positively working to alienate the fan base- surely they want the dedicated fan to spend their hard earned on it, surely they want multiple viewings, merchandise sales the rest of it. This smells like it will make decent money from the knuckleheads but will not reach its full potential. Unless googamooga buys millions of tickets because "ITS FUUUKINN GONNNNA RAAAWK"
I never said that by Lost Prophet	Sep 7th, 2006 11:44:34 AM
what the fuck are you talking about?
Morphing by Jak0lantern01	Sep 7th, 2006 11:54:11 AM
Since these characters can now morph at will, does that mean that IF there are sequels that every TF will be the latest and greatest model to be released by that movie's sponsor (in this case,GM). SO, like the next movie Bumblebee may instead be a yellow Mustang? This so cheapens the characters and what they are. Also, if this is the case, why would Prime retain the same truck form? This morphing idea sounds like it's creating way too many potential plot holes. Also, in response to the notion that the pic of Meg's is a pre-morph alien design vs. what would eventually be redesigned as an Earth based design: I don't exactly buy it. But one thing I have to ask is: has anyone associated with this production addressed the Megatron issue? I know they keep going back to Prime and his flames, etc., but what about Megatron? Has ANYONE addressed this? Just curious, since it really seems to have sparked the most outrage, next to Starscream. The flames suck on Optimus, but I can deal with that over the terrible Decept designs.
My apologies Lost Prophet by adonais	Sep 7th, 2006 11:56:06 AM
Sorry about that, you're absolutely right. My mistake.
no, I was toying with the idea by Lost Prophet	Sep 7th, 2006 11:56:56 AM
but have been thoroughly put off. I am fucked if I am spending the equivalent of $20 to see it. And if I talk the wife into it $40 and the complete works of Sandra Bullock do not seem worth it for a Bay POS
Call me Wikipedia by adonais	Sep 7th, 2006 11:57:10 AM
Look at me, referring to the wrong person, I'm like Wikipedia talking about the Kennedy assassination.
Pimptronic by tile_mcgillus	Sep 7th, 2006 11:57:38 AM
I think the bank depends on the trailer. How this MFer is marketed. When people see these BFR (big fucking robots) move and talk are they going to laugh or be impressed. I can say with certainty that it will bank at least 100 mill. If it breaks 2 I will be impressed, doubtful though. It won't make 3 unless they made the script not suck. Everyone will make their money back and move on leaving us with a shit movie and a ruined franchise.
no harm done. by Lost Prophet	Sep 7th, 2006 12:03:13 PM
I am off to the pub. Have fun with FLAMES ON OPTIMUS. One last one: FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=HAVING TO STAY IN WORK UNTIL 6PM.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = M NIGHT TRICK ENDING by superninja	Sep 7th, 2006 12:08:59 PM

Yack, I asked that previously and got no by superninja	Sep 7th, 2006 12:12:06 PM
response. How much is the budget for this thing? I suspect it's not as high as we think.
DOLPH LUNDGREN!!! DID SOMEONE JUST SAY THAT by messi	Sep 7th, 2006 12:38:40 PM
the flames = Dolph Lundgren. DON'T EVER put Dolph Lundgren anywhere near Optimus' flames. Blasphemy. The Dolph is a God beyond all of us and he too is dissaproving of flames.
Threatened with the complete works of Sandra Bullock? by Ricky Henderson	Sep 7th, 2006 12:42:03 PM
oh man, that's the funniest thing I've heard in a long time LP. I'd imagine this movie's budget is around $125 million, which isn't too steep a price for a major hollywood blockbuster these days. There's absolutely no way this movie will make the kind of cash that Spidey and POTC3 will rake in next summer. Its just not possible. All those little kids are going to go watch a movie from an extablished franchise, not a flick based on a cartoon they've never even seen.
adonais by messi	Sep 7th, 2006 12:45:26 PM
i mentioned pornstars because people say the only ones complaining need to get laid, and they are complaining and get laid aplenty. I know of some male pornstars that are upset about this. not so much the females. Although i know 2 of them are upset about what happened to bumblebee(camaro).
Budget is reported at 225 mil. by messi	Sep 7th, 2006 12:46:35 PM
Bay said 200 mil. Tyrese said it's closer to 225 mil.
10-15 million of it is going right up Bay's nose by Ricky Henderson	Sep 7th, 2006 12:55:46 PM
Damn... I thought my estimate of $125 was close.
Messi by tile_mcgillus	Sep 7th, 2006 01:00:30 PM
How do you know? Do you work in that industry? Which ones are they (cause I will then think those PSers are much cooler)? Thats just awesome cross-pollenation
RE: 10-15 million of it is going right up Bay's nose by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 7th, 2006 01:02:20 PM
At least he gets to nail supermodels and Playboy bunnies when he's high. *** I never heard the $200-225 million estimate...I thought it was more in the $150-170 million range. Well, whatever it takes to make some big 'splosions. Spare no expense.
What would you do with 15 million dollars? by tile_mcgillus	Sep 7th, 2006 01:09:19 PM
Bay is going to spend it on coke and strippers. I think I would buy a nice house, TV and start my own design firm. AND then set my family up real nice. Put the rest in the bank and live secure for the rest of my life. Oh and then strippers and blow all the way.
Flames on Optimus also equals: by Bryan	Sep 7th, 2006 01:22:43 PM
The MTV Video Music Awards, Zubaz pants, bootleg t-shirts that say "I See Dead People" or "Whaaasssuuuuuuuup?," the artistic integrity of the Baja Men, commercials before movies, Akiva Goldsman winning an Oscar, Akiva Goldsman having a long and successful career, Limp Bizkit having a long and successful career, Michael Bay being considered an A-list director, the guy next to me who had to rap along with every god damn word at the Tribe Called Quest show last weekend, the girl Yoda in 'Phantom Menace,' the two-headed race commentator in 'Phantom Menace,' Carlos Mencia, the Rodney King verdict, people who try to justify the Rodney King verdict, the character design on 'Family Guy', 50 Cent's enunciation skills, Paris Hilton's fame, the attention span of today's youth, the twist ending in High Tension, modern hip hop's obsession with jewelry, the fact that there is a novelization of 'Mary Shelly's Frankenstein,' Cartoon Network showing live action programming including 'Saved By the Bell,' Mako dying before they could make an ending to 'Samurai Jack,' the 30th Anniversary Edition of 'Night of the Living Dead,' your favorite songs being used in commercials, the price of gas, Avi Arad burning the negatives for the Roger Corman 'Fantastic Four' movie, your favorite movie not being available on DVD, you thinking I just indicated that the Roger Corman 'Fantastic Four' movie is my favorite movie, the fact that nobody will read this because I didn't put it all in the subject line, the fact that I would care if nobody read this
Bryan by tile_mcgillus	Sep 7th, 2006 01:25:53 PM
well played. That was awesome, a bit late but those are some great ones.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = 19TH AMENDMENT by Elmore Rigby	Sep 7th, 2006 01:32:42 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS =R VENTURA TRIES BEAT UP NOLAN RYAN by Elmore Rigby	Sep 7th, 2006 01:34:10 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = PEOPLE WHO QUOTE ANCHORMAN by Elmore Rigby	Sep 7th, 2006 01:34:50 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = WEARING A BELUSHI 'COLLEGE' T-SHIRT by Elmore Rigby	Sep 7th, 2006 01:35:31 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS =LISTENING TO BANDS CD BEFORE CONCERT by Elmore Rigby	Sep 7th, 2006 01:36:06 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = PEOPLE WHO BRING BABIES TO MOVIES by Elmore Rigby	Sep 7th, 2006 01:36:58 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = WEARING JEAN SHORTS by Elmore Rigby	Sep 7th, 2006 01:37:18 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = WHEDONITES by Optimus Murphy	Sep 7th, 2006 01:37:21 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = METALLICA AFTER THE BLACK ALBUM by Optimus Murphy	Sep 7th, 2006 01:38:47 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = PRICE OF A COLLEGE EDUCATION by Optimus Murphy	Sep 7th, 2006 01:45:10 PM

I'm with Badger999 by Frankenblogger	Sep 7th, 2006 02:14:44 PM
I'm not spending a cent on this movie.
Flames on Prime=Jaws: The Revenge. by Jak0lantern01	Sep 7th, 2006 02:16:09 PM
I had to throw my two cents in. It's definitely more constructive than straight out bitching.
Also... by Frankenblogger	Sep 7th, 2006 02:16:51 PM
...Transformers should have an Arcee character or Blackarachnia character present. As it stands now, not a lot of chicks are going to see this movie. I keep thinking of that scene in Spinal Tap where Maty Debergi is telling the band that their audience seems to be made up of predominately young boys...
God I love Jaws: The Revenge by Frankenblogger	Sep 7th, 2006 02:17:17 PM

Just kidding. by Frankenblogger	Sep 7th, 2006 02:17:32 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = "SHIA LABOUF IS THE NEW TOM HANKS" by superninja	Sep 7th, 2006 02:45:08 PM
Yack, I have been trying to summon up the will to see Lady in the Water so we can discuss. Maybe sometime this weekend.
Well, maybe not. It looks like its by superninja	Sep 7th, 2006 02:48:08 PM
not showing anymore. Have to wait for DVD, I guess...
Am I the only person who thinks he looks decent? by Novaman5000	Sep 7th, 2006 02:49:04 PM
I dunno, I'm not a big transformers or robot fan in general, so maybe I'm just ignorant. I think the true test of this movie will be how they TRANSFORM. If they can pull that shit off realistically and awesomely, it will make up for a lot of this negative buzz for me.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=AVI ARAD BURNING CORMAN'S by Flux_brown	Sep 7th, 2006 03:21:43 PM
FF negatives...really? he really did that?
OPTIMUS w/out flames... by ckone	Sep 7th, 2006 03:50:29 PM
ok,I have a friend who allowed me to use his myspace site to post up a version of Optimus WITHOUT flames. I did it in photoshop in about ten minutes. It ain't perfect by any means, but it works.I left the original posted as well, for comparisons sake. Here's the link. www.myspace.com/artonso
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = CRYSTAL PEPSI by GibsonUSA	Sep 7th, 2006 04:22:18 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = TODAY'S LOONEY TUNES by GibsonUSA	Sep 7th, 2006 04:22:43 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = MAGGIE SHOT MR. BURNS by GibsonUSA	Sep 7th, 2006 04:23:06 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = CG TALKING ANIMAL MOVIES by GibsonUSA	Sep 7th, 2006 04:23:36 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = WHAT MYSPACERS REALLY LOOK LIKE by GibsonUSA	Sep 7th, 2006 04:24:08 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = "WITTY" HOT TOPIC PHRASE TSHIRTS by GibsonUSA	Sep 7th, 2006 04:24:56 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=MOMS WHO DRESS THEIR GIRLS LIKE SLUTS by GibsonUSA	Sep 7th, 2006 04:25:51 PM

FLAMES ON OPRIMUS =POLYGAMY WITH 10 FAT CHICKS by GibsonUSA	Sep 7th, 2006 04:26:24 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = TEEN MOMS AT WALMART by GibsonUSA	Sep 7th, 2006 04:26:58 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = ANIMAL ABUSE by GibsonUSA	Sep 7th, 2006 04:27:23 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=STRIPPERS ACTING PROUD OF THEIR JOB by GibsonUSA	Sep 7th, 2006 04:27:51 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=PAINTED EYEBROWS AND GREASED UP HAIR by GibsonUSA	Sep 7th, 2006 04:28:39 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = YOUNG MOMS LOOKING FOR HUSBANDS by GibsonUSA	Sep 7th, 2006 04:29:13 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=MISSING THE 1986 TF MOVIE IN THEATERS by GibsonUSA	Sep 7th, 2006 04:32:24 PM

I think this design needs more flames. by 'Cholera's Ghost	Sep 7th, 2006 04:37:41 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = EMO KIDS by Optimus Murphy	Sep 7th, 2006 04:42:44 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = CELEBRITY TEARFUL APOLOGIES by GibsonUSA	Sep 7th, 2006 04:42:54 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = DUKE NUKEM FOREVER RELEASE DATE by GibsonUSA	Sep 7th, 2006 04:43:24 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = A WORLD WITHOUT COKE by Optimus Murphy	Sep 7th, 2006 04:43:45 PM
Michael Bay asked me to relay that one.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = FRANKIE MUNIZ IN STAY ALIVE by GibsonUSA	Sep 7th, 2006 04:44:38 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = ELI MANNING by Optimus Murphy	Sep 7th, 2006 04:45:11 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=TV MAKING SUPERBOWL PICKS NOW by GibsonUSA	Sep 7th, 2006 04:46:03 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = A 24 HOUR ROMAN HELMET by Optimus Murphy	Sep 7th, 2006 04:46:07 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS= SMALL WONDER GIRL ROBOT AGING by GibsonUSA	Sep 7th, 2006 04:47:24 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = NEW ORLEANS SCHOOL BUSES UNDERWATER by Optimus Murphy	Sep 7th, 2006 04:48:59 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = TEXAS BEATING OHIO STATE by Optimus Murphy	Sep 7th, 2006 04:49:39 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=MR. COOPER USING GROWING PAINS SET by GibsonUSA	Sep 7th, 2006 04:49:45 PM

FL:AMES ON OPTIMUS=FAMILY TIES DAD WITHOUT BEARD by GibsonUSA	Sep 7th, 2006 04:51:34 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=NSYNC & AEROSMITH SUPERBOWL HALFTIME by GibsonUSA	Sep 7th, 2006 04:53:26 PM

FLAMES ON ELVIS= NEW COKE by moondoggy2u	Sep 7th, 2006 05:01:31 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS= NEW COKE by moondoggy2u	Sep 7th, 2006 05:02:24 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS= FAT ELVIS by moondoggy2u	Sep 7th, 2006 05:02:59 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS= DUKES OF HAZZARD: THE MOVIE by moondoggy2u	Sep 7th, 2006 05:05:00 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=A CELL MATE WHO SAYS by moondoggy2u	Sep 7th, 2006 05:07:35 PM
"YOU SURE DO GOT A PUURRTY MOUTH."
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=HALLE BERRY'S OSCAR AWARD by moondoggy2u	Sep 7th, 2006 05:08:38 PM

Who started this "Flames on Optimus" thing by superninja	Sep 7th, 2006 05:12:40 PM
anyway? It is so 80s.
Maybe he will have the mud flap girls to by superninja	Sep 7th, 2006 05:16:25 PM
go with his flames?
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=NO MORE POST ON THE MEGATRON TB :( by Phategod2	Sep 7th, 2006 05:21:21 PM

OT: I watched Hellboy last night. by superninja	Sep 7th, 2006 05:43:27 PM
It really is a pretty boring flick except for the parts where Hellboy is mooning over Liz. Perleman was very good in the part. It brought back one of my initial pet peeves which was that they used that great song "Red Right Hand" by Nic Cave in the film. Hellboy's big red hand, get it? Har har. Maybe Bay will use Mr. Roboto in as similar tidal wave of humor?
I've said this before but this is worth repeating.... by Doc_Strange	Sep 7th, 2006 05:55:47 PM
These character designs are FUCKED UP!!! That is NOT Optimus Prime, nor will EVER be Optimus Prime. This movie is fucked up too. Maybe Bay and his Catwoman writers, and LXG producer are too stupid to realize it. Maybe because movies like The Island, Armageddon, Pearl Harbor, Catwoman, and LXG are aimed toward the lowest common denominator.
Megatron face done right by FuriousStyles	Sep 7th, 2006 06:37:32 PM
Messi posted this earlier, but I've gotta put it up again.......its not perfect, but lightyears better than the 'professional film maker' are giving us.......http://img465.imagesh ack.us/img465/5200/mymoviemegh ead7webcp1.jpg
OT Sort of by Phategod2	Sep 7th, 2006 06:47:41 PM
I think Micheal Bell should do the voice of Starscream I was playing a Game Called Metal Gear Solid 3 and there was a character called "the fear" that sounded very similar to Starscream voiced by Micheal Bell who has done over 100 voices for over the past 20 years. including different Transformers from 84.
messi by Mr. Nice Gaius	Sep 7th, 2006 07:15:24 PM
Not only are those "hack" writers (Orci in particular) aware of and apparently showing those fan designs to Paramount, but they (he) has also said that they've added a LOT more TF dialog and written whole new scenes. It's funny how up until now, the official movie site messageboards have gone relatively un-noticed in lieu of all the craziness on Seibertron, Bay's Blog, and Murphy's cave.
Who cares if they write new scenes by NYSCO6390	Sep 7th, 2006 07:47:18 PM
The whole movie should be rewritten from the very beginning. Anything less is a juggfuckling bandaid on a broken bone. On Bay's blog one fellah says that our input is limited to whether or not we buy a ticket. They had my ticket guaranteed when they announced the movie with a big snub nosed red semi. They juggled it around with each character sketch release. Between Megs and the leaked script, I'll not only keep my ticket but keep telling people not to go see it.
When did they have your ticket, when did you take it !! by Phategod2	Sep 7th, 2006 08:02:15 PM
We know when NYSO gave up but for me It was when Speilberg announced that he was a G1 fan I kept my ticket when Don Murphy "OWNED" me. he's not getting my money.
I'm concerned about the music.....(soundtrack) by GibsonUSA	Sep 7th, 2006 08:02:55 PM
Since they are targeting "edgy" teens and preteens with this movie, does this mean a soundtrack featuring such crap as Fallout Boy, Kanye West, and The Pussycat Dolls? PLEASE NO.
The last thing you needs to worry about is the soundtra by Phategod2	Sep 7th, 2006 08:11:23 PM
I like Kanye but we will probably wind up with either another Aerosmith record, or some damn theme by Nellie and P. ditty throughout the whole movie.
I'd knock 3 out 6 Dolls by Phategod2	Sep 7th, 2006 08:16:24 PM
That Dragonforce S*&( is hot though I can totally hear them doing the themesong only thing is it will kind of sound like LION's version if they add extra lyrics.
Transformers and hip hop dont mix.... by GibsonUSA	Sep 7th, 2006 08:16:27 PM
Transformers has historically been all about electric guitars, synthesizers, and hard rock music. Can you imagine P.Diddy doing the movie theme/title theme?? It'd be FUCKED UP, just like these character designs. (I dont mind P.Diddy as an artist in general tho, I grew up with him and am a fan)I actually wouldn't mind Aerosmith having a song on the soundtrack, because they are classic rock in TF tradition. But please no MTV stars like Timberlake or Pink. Computron could think about that all day and it wouldnt compute.
...and no self-pitying emo bands.... by GibsonUSA	Sep 7th, 2006 08:21:30 PM
The 1986 soundtrack has some songs that havent aged well....but every single song screamed of asskickery...."Instrument s of Destruction", "Nothings Gonna Stand in my Way", "Dare", and so on.....every song was essentially about kicking ass....there were no self pitying, whining emo tracks. The new soundtrack should be upbeat and uptempo in such tradition.
P diddy doing the soundtrack by Flux_brown	Sep 7th, 2006 08:21:34 PM
background: old transformers soundtrack,instrumental Uh uh yeah!.....transformers....yeah ...uh ...uh...more....more than meets the eye...uh huh...yeah (enter chorus) MORE THAN MEETS THE EYE! loop 5x
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = LITTLE RICHARD by Flux_brown	Sep 7th, 2006 08:23:23 PM
have you seen celebrity duets on fox?....its ...bizzare
messi- well you know what i mean, then :) by GibsonUSA	Sep 7th, 2006 08:34:44 PM
I am referring to that annoying, ear killing crap I hear on the radio everyday on the drive home. :)
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = Nelson the Moderator by toulouse	Sep 7th, 2006 09:05:03 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = SUMITPO NO SEMALF by Octaveaeon	Sep 7th, 2006 09:20:05 PM
iff we don't take account for non-Euclidean geometry and Bay handing back the project to Spielberg in order to make a Care Bears movie.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = THE WHIZZINATOR by GibsonUSA	Sep 7th, 2006 10:39:07 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = YACKBACKER STEALING MY LINE by Shermdawg	Sep 7th, 2006 10:39:27 PM

more pics by BRUTICUS	Sep 7th, 2006 10:40:55 PM
http://www.seibertron.com/foru ms/viewtopic.php?t=89214
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = PASSIVE DRIVERS by GibsonUSA	Sep 7th, 2006 10:41:54 PM
80 year old women driving 30mph in 50mph zone, slamming on brakes, unpredictable lane switches, taking an hour to turn, etc...
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = 24's OVERRATED SEASON FIVE by Shermdawg	Sep 7th, 2006 10:42:11 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = JAKE PLUMMER CHOKING by Shermdawg	Sep 7th, 2006 10:43:32 PM

So if the Transformers can scan anything to change to.. by GibsonUSA	Sep 7th, 2006 10:49:38 PM
In Transformers 2, technically couldnt Optimus scan a big red flatnose truck, Jazz scan a Porsche, Bumblebee scan a little car, Ratchet scan an ambulance, and Iron side scan a big red van, etc.....and then the scanner breaks so they have to stay that way? :) Quick fix.
Shit, I say songs like Dare & The Touch are by Doc_Strange	Sep 7th, 2006 11:08:19 PM
probably the best songs I've seen in an animated movie, or movie, period. How awesome would it have them playbeen it playing in the background when Spike or Sam or whatever the hell his name is goes into an electronics store and it's playing on a stereo or something as a nod to the fans. But the reality is Bay is fucking this movie up big time. I have to say this is the MOST unfaithful adaptation of source material ever. This movie just takes a big shit on 20 years of ass-kicking history. I'm getting depressed just thinking about it. Fuck.
As Ringbearer9 would say... by 'Cholera's Ghost	Sep 7th, 2006 11:10:09 PM
The fire in Optimus' flames is "too orange".
"Instruments of Destruction" could still work... by GibsonUSA	Sep 7th, 2006 11:14:51 PM
"Dare" and "The Touch" havent aged very well and and would sound completely silly to non-fans, but "Instruments of Destruction" imo is still asskicking at its finest. It would be awesome, and believeable, to hear Sam listening to it in his new car after getting it, or somewhere else in the movie. I was just listening to it the other day....it doesnt even need to be remade, its aged well.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=NONLUBRICATED PRISON SHOWER RAPE by Ricky Henderson	Sep 7th, 2006 11:18:31 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=HANSON by Ricky Henderson	Sep 7th, 2006 11:19:24 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=NAILING YOUR COCK TO A STRUCTURE FIRE by Ricky Henderson	Sep 7th, 2006 11:21:22 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=DISCOVERING YOUR GF HAS GENITAL WARTS by Ricky Henderson	Sep 7th, 2006 11:22:38 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=WHAT CORTEZ DID TO THE MAYANS by Ricky Henderson	Sep 7th, 2006 11:23:51 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=THE BLITZKREIG OF 1939 by Ricky Henderson	Sep 7th, 2006 11:25:43 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=RICHARD GERE'S GERBIL WRANGLER by Ricky Henderson	Sep 7th, 2006 11:26:46 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=HOT AIR BALLOONING by Ricky Henderson	Sep 7th, 2006 11:28:52 PM

Instrument of destruction by Phategod2	Sep 7th, 2006 11:29:04 PM
I remember most of the songs from the movie but that on escapes me can you hum a bar or two?
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = EXTREME CONSTIPATION by Doc_Strange	Sep 7th, 2006 11:34:36 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=HAVING TO PERFORM A "RUSTY TROMBONE" by Ricky Henderson	Sep 7th, 2006 11:37:00 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=JAZZERCISE by Ricky Henderson	Sep 7th, 2006 11:38:24 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=WAXING YOUR NIPPLE HAIR by Ricky Henderson	Sep 7th, 2006 11:39:18 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=MODEL RAILROADING by Ricky Henderson	Sep 7th, 2006 11:40:54 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=MEL GIBSON'S CREDIBILITY by Ricky Henderson	Sep 7th, 2006 11:42:30 PM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=XENA FAN-FICTION by Ricky Henderson	Sep 7th, 2006 11:43:18 PM

Is that the song they play when by Phategod2	Sep 7th, 2006 11:44:22 PM
Hot rod and Kupp are fighting robots squids in that lake.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=SOMEBODY SHITTING ON YOUR CHEST by Ricky Henderson	Sep 7th, 2006 11:46:40 PM

(aka, the "cleaveland steamer") by Ricky Henderson	Sep 7th, 2006 11:48:17 PM
and im leaving on that high note.
phategod by chiahead	Sep 8th, 2006 12:00:31 AM
Instruments of Destruction was the song that played in the first act when Megs and Starscream are killing all the Autobots in the shuttle before they reach earth. The song that is played in the second act when Hot Rod and Kup are fighting the giant squid is called Nothin's Gonna Stand In Our Way, which, I believe were both recorded by NRG... although I might have that part wrong.
YOU ALL BITCH NOW, BUT YOU'LL ALL SEE THE MOVIE by deadlegend	Sep 8th, 2006 12:02:09 AM
Don't deny it. It's completely pointless. Resistense is futile.
Thank you by Phategod2	Sep 8th, 2006 12:06:41 AM
DeadLegend Have you ever heard of a Multiplex I dont know about your but mine has Piss poor Security I go from one movie right to the next with no problem. also There is Bittorrent where I can download the whole freaking movie clear as day. so yes I will see it in soe form or fashion but I will not pay for it for the simple fact one of the Producers insulted me personally Maybe i started it but if you want my $8 you better coddle me.
Just been staring at the Optimus head for a minute by Phategod2	Sep 8th, 2006 12:22:25 AM
you kow it funny that cullens doing the voice because he kind of looks like eyore.
The new pics - BRUTICUS by darthwalters	Sep 8th, 2006 01:21:05 AM
Holy shit. I don't care how early or late those designs are. Just shit. Starscream looks the biggest. Not to mention he looks like a huge ape creature with a General Grievous head. I don't give a shit that they finally gave him hands. He looks even worse. Megatron still looks like a T-1000 bowel movement. Most of the decepticons look like entirely too intricate mech warriors. Jazz and Ratchet from what you can make out actually look the most genuinely Transformerish. And Bumblebee has no legs (verifying they are filming that terrible steaming pile they called a script). With all the size problems in that mock-up, I think I would have rather they'd just find a visual way around mass shifting and said fuck it being mathematically possible. Just make them look right, transform quickly like those car commercials, and then give them their correct personalities. You'd see me at the theater about 7 or 8 times for that. Fuck. Oh, and just in case nobody checked out BRUTICUS's message earlier and saw this shitpile, here is the link again. http://www.seibertron.com/foru ms/viewtopic.php?t=89214
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = LINDEY LOHAN'S SAGGY BEEF CURTAINS by Optimus Murphy	Sep 8th, 2006 01:26:32 AM
They almost look like balls.
deadlegend is totally right!! by Hairy Nutsack	Sep 8th, 2006 01:42:32 AM
Seriously, he's so right we are all going to see this. Bit Torrent is so fucking cool. Can't wait to burn it to disk so I can place it in my trophy case next to my burned copies of Van Helsing and AvP.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS = FROM JUSTIN TO KELLY remake by Kampbell-Kid	Sep 8th, 2006 02:45:42 AM

Jazz looks alright? by adonais	Sep 8th, 2006 03:30:10 AM
He has thunder thighs!! ALSO To people who complained aout Starscream not having hands, didn't the script have everyone's hands transforming into weapons? So isn't it easy to believe that the toy prototype we saw had his hands in the form of weapons, it didn't necessarily mean the movie form didn't have hands is all I'm saying. Not to defend the designs AT ALL... ALSO I seem to remember that Megatron's old G1 info said that he tapped into a black hole interdimensionally to power his fusion cannon. If we could believe that, why couldn't we believe he could tap into some interdimensional source in order to gain mass when he transforms? (In response to the argument that the Transformers can't change size when they transform.)
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=THIS JOKE STILL GOING by Lost Prophet	Sep 8th, 2006 03:31:59 AM
and ricky, dude, what is your obsession with the rusty trombone?
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=BULLYING PCHAN IN THE MEGATRON TB by Lost Prophet	Sep 8th, 2006 03:32:49 AM
I Likee her. She is nice.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=DALTON BOND MOVIES by Lost Prophet	Sep 8th, 2006 03:40:22 AM
but not the man himself. He was a good bond in shit films- there is a difference.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH by Lost Prophet	Sep 8th, 2006 03:42:52 AM
A piss poor excuse for a Bond Movie. And Pierce Brosnan runs like a girl. Ganymede, really, that is a damascene conversion. Having put up with, and defended, an awful lot of shite the Starscream design has pushed you over the edge. Funny- even the apologists are starting to drop due to the sheer weight of shit.
Fine, but their movies weren't anywhere near as bad as by Lost Prophet	Sep 8th, 2006 03:53:29 AM
the living daylights. Let alone License to Kill- which funnily enough is sort of like this TF film. If you think about it we were promised a Bond film, and we got Bond outside from MI6. BOND IN NAME ONLY
I can not believe Ganymede is converted by Lost Prophet	Sep 8th, 2006 03:54:51 AM
see what happens when you toy with peoples expectations. FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=LAZENBY AS JAMES BOND
ARISE LORD MEDE by Phategod1	Sep 8th, 2006 04:30:35 AM
and I did Lazenby and Dalton 2 days ago. I dont know If your serious but if you are Gany Welcome to the hate.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=REPEATING PHATE"S FLAME JOKE by Lost Prophet	Sep 8th, 2006 04:47:09 AM
it had to be done after ganymede used dalton. Welcome to the Dark Side Gany! it's more fun here. Now go and read the script and the shia interview and sharpen that poison knife.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=DONNY TWO CHINS CV by Lost Prophet	Sep 8th, 2006 05:14:41 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=SHIATE LEPOOF by Lost Prophet	Sep 8th, 2006 05:16:08 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=SHIATE LEPOOF by Lost Prophet	Sep 8th, 2006 05:16:37 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=SHIATE LEPOOF by Lost Prophet	Sep 8th, 2006 05:17:03 AM
I hate him so much I had to post it multiple times
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=LONDON UNDERGROUND by Lost Prophet	Sep 8th, 2006 05:21:51 AM
I was late to work today because of the fucking useless expensive piece of shit.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=PAUL MCCARTNEY'S PETTYNESS by Lost Prophet	Sep 8th, 2006 05:23:32 AM
The rotten tosser changed the credits on last years Best of the Beatles (or whatever the fuck it was) so the tracks were written by McCartney/ Lennon not Lennon/ McCartney. The Wanker.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=PEOPLE THAT PREFER THE DOTD REMAKE TO by Lost Prophet	Sep 8th, 2006 05:24:26 AM
THE ORIGINAL
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=GIRLS THAT WEAR GIANT PANTS by Lost Prophet	Sep 8th, 2006 05:25:12 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=ENGLAND LOSING ON PENALTIES (again) by Lost Prophet	Sep 8th, 2006 05:25:45 AM

FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=POKEMON by Lost Prophet	Sep 8th, 2006 05:33:00 AM

This Film Will Make A Mint... by Pawprint	Sep 8th, 2006 06:40:21 AM
Primarily amongst young (7 - 11) kids. In answer to some of the naysayers: do you honestly believe that a 9 year old boy who sees a trailer with BFR smashing the shite out of each other is going to think to himself, "Hmmm, I haven't seen the cartoons before so I 'm not familiar with the scource material - I think I'll give this a miss."? As for the toys not catching on because they will require too much effort from this generation of ADD kids; agreed, but again that won't stop 'em from going to see the film. LP, you keep mentioning that you can't understand why Bay is alienating the 'FanBase'. I think you are approaching this the wrong way; by 'FanBase', I think you mean 30-somethings who saw the original cartoon, read the comics, played with the original toys. But the REAL FanBase for this film are the 7-11's; and if they're not now, they will be a soon as the first proper trailer aimed at them touches down. There will be at least TWO trailers for this film; one for the kids showing all the BFR's fighting, and one for 'grown-ups'/Fans showing characterisation (to make the film look intelligent) and some tasteful and brief shots of the BFR's. This film will be like fucking cocaine or speed to an 8 year old boy, and he won't care if Prime has flames coming out of his arse, if BumbleBee is a pink Sinclair C5, or if Megatron transforms into a giant, steel vibrating cock that makes tea. Because for every kid that goes to see this you'll have to add on at least one other admission price for an accompanying parent. The kids will spread this film like the flu through the school playgrounds; even if a kid hasn't heard of it before, when the buzz hits the playground, it'll become his new favourite film (until the NEXT big thing), and he'll make it his life's ambition to see it as many times as he can pester his parents into taking him. There is nothing the fans can do, except come to terms with one thing; this film isn't for you. Be happy with the little nods to the original series that Bay is gonna throw you to keep you relatively sweet (Prime's voice).
You miss my point pawprint by Lost Prophet	Sep 8th, 2006 06:55:03 AM
You can talk about the "Real" fanbase for this film being kids 7-11 as much as you want, and I do agree with that. I also agree that your average 9 year old couldn't give a toss if Optimus was electric green with spinning hubcaps. I also agree that the hard core transformers fanbase is not strong enough to sink this film. However, there is a significant proportion of the Geek community that do things to excess- the sad sack who went to shitterman stalks 20x, being a prime example. Nevertheless, as established by the SoaP fiasco, the geek market is worth $40m approx. Are you honestly telling me that the filmakers wouldn't want $40m? All the problems that are alienating the hard core are easily fixable, as I said before, how hard is it to not paint flames on something? So If I met you in the street and said here's
also, that giant steel cock that makes tea by Lost Prophet	Sep 8th, 2006 06:57:13 AM
is there a breast version?
Fuck Transfagbots...get me Spider-Man 3 news!!! by KAWS	Sep 8th, 2006 07:11:38 AM
God, these robots look like fucking iron shit, Steven Spielberg should be ashamed to be attached to this mess on wheels. Get me a clearer shot of VENOM, or a clearer shot of the Comic-Con Spidey 3 footage. Then you'll actually be gathering some COOL NEWS! Get rid of these gay ass robots before I puke! You know this to be true.
Lost Prophet by Pawprint	Sep 8th, 2006 07:16:01 AM
I know I didn't make it too clear in my post, but the only thing aimed at you was the comment about fanbases really. I can see what you are saying using SOAP as an example, but I think it's a bit of a simplistic example. SOAP's creators ADDED content in response to positive internet buzz; the makers didn't really have to change any exsisting footage or storyline (maybe throw in some CGI). Whereas the TF fans; well people are screaming about complete re-writes, re-designs already (flames and colours aside), which is more difficult to do. Again I go back to my overall point; Bay's doin' this one for the kids - there's more money there for him because they are easier to satisfy than the rabid fans - they are not steep in 80's TF lore, and won't cry if Prime is the 'wrong' Blue. I reckon the original Fan's money is negligible to him. He's hoping that his little 'nods' will be enough to draw them in - if it doesn't; no big deal. he doesn't have to aim for the parents - if he aims for the kids, the parents will have to go too... See what I mean? Giant Steel Tea making breasts? That's got prospects!
I only used soap as an example as it is the only by Lost Prophet	Sep 8th, 2006 07:27:37 AM
provable level of money that can be directly drawn from the fanbase. I think we basically agree, and everyone knows that the geek market is not their prime focus, but really some of the changes people want are immensly easy to satisfy, and would no doubt remove a lot of the vitriol. There is no denying that complete rewrites/ casting changes/ wholesale redesign are not going to happen, but there are untold cosmetic changes that would take the edge off- and a lot of these are easy to implement. Whilst we are on the subject of sexual domestic appliances- how about one that cleans up as well
You're onto something there, LP.. by Pawprint	Sep 8th, 2006 07:35:24 AM
I thought I was getting one of those when I got married; how wrong I was... at least this one will come with an 'off' button. I think SoaP will prove to be a 'one-off' in terms of fan interaction like that - it was a phenomenon, and unlikely to be repeated. Film-Makers don't like people 'fucking with their vision' too much... people got lucky with SoaP, but now it's been done.
I know- tell me about it by Lost Prophet	Sep 8th, 2006 07:55:48 AM
you think she would be grateful to get the privelege of cleaning the flat and sucking my cock- but apparantly I am just being ungrateful. Hmph. Soap was a phenomenon, and what has depressed me about this mess is that it is either incompetence, or (more likely based on Murphy's behaviour) downright fucking arrogance that has led to a huge amount of the totally avoidable cock ups that have taken place with this film. I am all for having your vision and sticking to it, but there comes a point when everyone can see serious flaws in the vision- and if criticism is levelled constructively it should be at least given the time of day. Whereas, what has happened here is that aside from some of the more hysterical rants, each valid critique has been met with "fuck off- it's our vision and it's so fucking good you will all be blown away". Hubris, man, hubris. Pure and simple.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=NO OFF SWITCH ON GRUMPY WIFE by Lost Prophet	Sep 8th, 2006 08:02:16 AM

Women - Grateful? Pah... by Pawprint	Sep 8th, 2006 08:27:47 AM
I agree that the 'perceived' flaws in this film (I say percieved because they don't really bother me) are born out of arrogance. But I'm afraid it's an arrogance that comes from (Bay's)knowing that this is gonna be a licence to print money with or without fan approval.
FLAMES ON PRIME=WIFE WITH PERMANENT HEADACHE by Pawprint	Sep 8th, 2006 08:32:41 AM

Not in this lifetime. Can we get banned for misogyny? by Lost Prophet	Sep 8th, 2006 08:32:43 AM
I hope whoever moderates this knows we are only joking. Do you not think though that it is sad that they have deliberately decided to make less money than they could have through hubris? I hope it bombs, it won't, but I hope it does.
FLAMES ON OPTIMUS=GETTING BANNED FOR MISOGYNY by Lost Prophet	Sep 8th, 2006 08:34:42 AM

Banned For Misogyny - There Ain't A Jury... by Pawprint	Sep 8th, 2006 08:45:50 AM
In all of Britain

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