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Optimus: Clearer And Upper Closer!!

Too Soon!!! by Admiral_Kirk	Sep 5th, 2006 12:17:01 PM

SECOND by nef	Sep 5th, 2006 12:19:11 PM
BITCHES
Flames on Optimus= Jugg Fuckled by ZombieChrisReeve	Sep 5th, 2006 12:21:35 PM

Meh... by Blartifartass	Sep 5th, 2006 12:24:04 PM
Hate the face, his eyes look like those retarded sons of Toms from Tom Goes to the Mayor
Merrick... by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 5th, 2006 12:24:06 PM
Is this a photograph of the actual "toy"? Or is this a CGI rendering? The head/face doesn't really look like the other images and near-images we've seen so far. Hmmm...
I refuse to try to declare FIRST! by Jak0lantern01	Sep 5th, 2006 12:24:41 PM
Anyway, wow, it's as we've seen before, just clearer. I'll wait for the critic reviews before dropping my $$$$ on this one.
cool enough.... by rotten666	Sep 5th, 2006 12:25:47 PM
I'm keeping an open mind. Although megatron don't look too cool. I'll postpone judgement until I see the flick.
Hrmm... by Shepard Bauer	Sep 5th, 2006 12:26:01 PM
I dunno... DEFINATELY don't see the ribs deal. He does look extremely massive, which is awesome, and the back view, well, they have to put all that mass of the cab somewhere, so I'm fine with the body work... not a huge fan of the head, but I'm willing to go with it... I'm finaly resigned to the fact that this is not the Transformers I grew up with. Hopefully this movie will rock on its own. All the characters look awesome but different. My emotions have been upgraded from dejected/hopefull to mixed/hopefull/slightly numb. I don't like his colors but Bay will get my $8...
Good Lord!!! Prime has an "x-treme" goatee!!! by moondoggy2u	Sep 5th, 2006 12:26:10 PM
To say nothing of chicken feet or prison tats...Pimp My Prime in all his x-treme glory!!!No wonder Megatron is hates him;)
Oh, wait, I didn't see the head shots by Jak0lantern01	Sep 5th, 2006 12:26:57 PM
Eh, leave the damn 'battle mask' on the whole time. With a mug like that, how is he supposed to emote? Wasn't that the thing? Sorry, but they're not Transformers. GoBots from hell maybe, but definitely not TF's.
Egyptian eyes....... by tile_mcgillus	Sep 5th, 2006 12:28:34 PM
His eyes look like they are referencing Egyptian heirogylphics or droopy the dog. The flames........sad face 5000.
Wow by bollhatergc	Sep 5th, 2006 12:29:54 PM
we've come a long way since we first saw him as a purple flaming truck...
Looks like the Zord from the first Power Ranger movie by Retlaw Kciuq	Sep 5th, 2006 12:31:10 PM
Don't know if that's a good thing; depends on which fanboy you ask.
All of this was STOLEN from Firefly by Darth_Baltar	Sep 5th, 2006 12:31:51 PM
...or at least that would be the claim of the Whedonites.
FYI... by McTitties	Sep 5th, 2006 12:32:39 PM
He will transform via his special, built-in CUNTFLAPS.
Nice ass by blackwood	Sep 5th, 2006 12:33:35 PM

hahaa bad crap by foree forehead	Sep 5th, 2006 12:34:39 PM
he has some kind of snout.
He looks like he's drunk! by aphextwin	Sep 5th, 2006 12:35:07 PM
Yesp too much booz will make your eyes sleepy and your face dumb and indifferent. I 'kinda'like the body work, but as mentioned, how the hell could that transform into a hillbilly longnosetruck with those pimp flames. Let me say this: that is not a face of a strong leader!
For all the rabid fanboys upset that Harry has not by Lando Griffin	Sep 5th, 2006 12:35:21 PM
declared an AICN jihad against your Holy Transformers its because A) Jihad has only been declared against Fox and Ratner to a lesser degreee (although now that X3 has come and gone it lies solely on FOX) and B) Harry actually likes Bays work
Another week, another Transformers TB... by Ricky Henderson	Sep 5th, 2006 12:35:52 PM
Seriously, I can't take any more disappointment. I'm not coming to AICN unless they stop posting Miachel Bay propaganda. Stop trying to convince us that this movie has potential. It just doesn't.
Lando Duchin by Aintitshot	Sep 5th, 2006 12:36:45 PM
NO- Tom Desanto owns this site I ahve told you before
Prime Looks Badass by Atomica	Sep 5th, 2006 12:37:36 PM
How freakin' cool. I cannot wait until next summer. 20 Years of hoping for a Live Action Transformers Movie are about to come tro fruition. Screw the Naysayers, this Prime kicks ass.
his eyes are too low by The_Boo	Sep 5th, 2006 12:38:02 PM
seriously, that's creepy. I could do without the flames, but can deal. Those eyes on the other hand are fugly
is that a nose and a mouth? by robosushi	Sep 5th, 2006 12:40:04 PM
or am I just looking at the picture a bit weird. yeah, I havent been the one to complain about any of this, Im a huge transformer fan, but I understand changes... but he kind of looks like he has down syndrome
Merrick--the toys will be much simpler by Ricky Henderson	Sep 5th, 2006 12:40:21 PM
The whole toyline won't have that kind of articulation. They'll just be more squarelike and easier to transform. Not that I care much since I'm skipping this whole disaster altogether.
Hey Optimus, why the long face? by Horseflesh	Sep 5th, 2006 12:42:26 PM
HAAA! Jumped the Sharkticon!
Ricky - skipping this disaster... by blackwood	Sep 5th, 2006 12:42:37 PM
...and yet, you're still in every talkback.
Horseflesh by blackwood	Sep 5th, 2006 12:43:19 PM
HA! You shined that ol' penny up nice.
he has the face of a Beagle by chickychow	Sep 5th, 2006 12:44:15 PM
I just want Optimus to curl up beside me on the porch so I can pat his head.
He looks amazing!!! by Orionsangels	Sep 5th, 2006 12:45:02 PM

It's on likely Donkey Kong in the Vern vs CHAOS talkbak by muscelyarm	Sep 5th, 2006 12:45:38 PM
Vern vs the CHAOS DVD is the greatest talkback of all time.
he looks like a pissed off goat.. by torpor_haze	Sep 5th, 2006 12:45:45 PM

His name should be Optimus Vin Diesel... by solartaco3	Sep 5th, 2006 12:46:05 PM

he looks like he plays in a band by behind blue eyes	Sep 5th, 2006 12:46:47 PM
I wish I looked like I played in a band...
Im going to be there opening weekend... by tile_mcgillus	Sep 5th, 2006 12:46:48 PM
I won't pay to see it, I will do the pay for anything else and walk into transformers. Just to Hear Cullen's voice come out of the closest thing we ever get to Prime. Its so close to awesome...just get rid of the goddamn flames!
his eyes by Bouncy X	Sep 5th, 2006 12:46:50 PM
his eyes sorta look like the eye from the poster...so maybe people were right in saying that was prime after all
Too Fast, Tooransformers! by Horseflesh	Sep 5th, 2006 12:47:35 PM
Tokyo Rift!
Ever seen Hollow Man... by pandamaster83	Sep 5th, 2006 12:47:59 PM
when Kevin Bacon is only half-invisible and you see him without any skin? This is what he reminds me of. He needs covering up.
It becomes harder for me... by JThomasC	Sep 5th, 2006 12:48:13 PM
to cling so desperately to my childhood in a pathetic fashion as it continues to be @$$ raped. I may have to grow up now. This is seriously gonna mess up my mid life crisis, instead of trips to Toys R Us thinly veiled as outings for me and my son, instead I'll most likely have to buy some lame ass convertible sports car I can't afford and have affairs with barely legal women. Man this sucks.
Limp Bizkit soul patches are very popular on Cybertron by Bryan	Sep 5th, 2006 12:48:18 PM
I don't think it's actually a matter of faithfulness, it's a matter of bad design. These things just look stupid. I am not very attached to Transformers and might go along with the "so what if it's not Transformers, these are cool robots!" argument if they were, in fact, cool robots. But come on, man. Every design they've released has been ugly as shit, way too busy and lacking in personality. I'm sure these designers are all talented, but they're being sent in the wrong direction. Look at all of the cumbersome, unneccessary detail on that pile of garbage, and then imagine what a poor judge of design you have to be to THEN decide that it needs fucking flames added to it! Your eye doesn't know where to go on these still images, so imagine how confusing they will be when combined with Michael Bay's editing style! I've always wondered why somebody hasn't done a giant robot movie since the dawning of CGI, but I guess I will have to wait a while longer for an actual good one. (Well, I haven't seen that Gigantor movie yet, maybe that one's good.) That said, the American Godzilla style lack of recognizability compounds the terrible designs quite a bit. These clearer pictures actually make it look worse because from a distance it seemed like the head was recognizable as Optimus but now that you can see the eyes and mouth (!) he seems to have a completely different personality. And I still think the idea that they have to have pupils to emote is both ignorant and an insult to the animators working on the movie.
MEGAS XLR by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 5th, 2006 12:48:56 PM
And I don't get this reference do to the fact that Megas XLR looks like a low-rent TF rip-off to me.
So close to awesome by tile_mcgillus	Sep 5th, 2006 12:52:51 PM
oh I forgot to put fix the chicken feet, goatee, eyes, no armor, too much insides, visual clutter and ,of course, teh flames! Fix all that and bam its prime...wait that's a lot of stuff isn't it?
Blackwood, re: "skipping this disaster" by Ricky Henderson	Sep 5th, 2006 12:53:21 PM
I don't like where this movie is going so I want to express how concerned I am. I don't think that's a contradiction. Please, what else would all the posters on AICN talkbacks do if they didn't have something to bitch about?
AWESOME! by googamooga	Sep 5th, 2006 12:58:13 PM
Haters SUCK IT.
Very smart comment Mr MERRICK by Ashen Shugar	Sep 5th, 2006 12:59:47 PM
Indeed. I can not believe the brains at HASBRO have validated such a complex Optimus. Even if you can expect nice tranformations, no toy can be so complicated, with sharp and small pieces. As the head, it looks so bland, as if OPTIMUS was on laudanum. One question : Did the smart guys with the Citroen commercial ever paid one dime to Hasbro for their very nice rip-off of TRANSFORMERS ?
you're absolutely right, Ricky by moondoggy2u	Sep 5th, 2006 01:00:10 PM
Why, there are even TB'ers who bitch about bitching!!! Hang 'em all, I always say, and let G-d sort them out!
MICHAEL BAY FUCKING LOST. by Truth0ne	Sep 5th, 2006 01:01:33 PM
MICHAEL BAY FUCKING LOST.
I don't understand the headshots by jackinitraw	Sep 5th, 2006 01:02:20 PM
Is that supposed to be how he looks when he talks or something? His mouth opens sideways like a Chinese vagina? I believe the Megatron mouth had a similar sideways Chinese vagina design. The more I see of this the more excited I am to watch Michael Bay follow up a disaster like The Island with a new level of disaster. It makes sense to have his career end in an explosion of sorts.
"I was thinking about putting flames on my house... by tile_mcgillus	Sep 5th, 2006 01:05:09 PM
and my car, and my bike, and the cups I drink out of, and my TV and my pants and I really considering getting flames tattooed on my dick...I just think it sends the right message, I have a hot man rod that is burning for your love Megatron." direct quote from Optimus Prime
No humanity by BV	Sep 5th, 2006 01:06:16 PM
And by that I mean...there's no humanity in that face.
Looks like General Greivous by Aust1n	Sep 5th, 2006 01:06:27 PM

Baytimus Prime kicks Geektrons ass, bitch!!! by German_Geekster	Sep 5th, 2006 01:06:52 PM
But the face looks shitty, liked the earlier design of the head.
jackinitraw ROFL by tile_mcgillus	Sep 5th, 2006 01:06:58 PM
I had no fucking clue that chinese vaginas were ugly and full of shiny robot mouths...thats awesome!
Coming along nicely by Mits777	Sep 5th, 2006 01:07:52 PM
He definitely looks better than i thought he was gonna look but i still have this feeling this is gonna suck hard. Time to shill as some of yall say. Check out this awesome review site. http:tinyurl.com/pv8do
Five To Eleven More Things... by SnakesOnABicycle	Sep 5th, 2006 01:08:21 PM
Just wanted to post the in another place to make sure it got seen, cause I think we're misplacing some of our anger on this. -- We can spot a plant. Yes it's true. From their generic screen names (yea, mine's no better), to their correctly punctuated, or overly mispelled drivel, to their constant arguments, or decrees of giving it a chance till you see it, or their general calling out, and daring you to like it strageties, we are usually able to see through their muck of shit. If anything, thinking that a studio is pathetic enough to send us an Aintitshot, or moto, only pisses and turns us off to the movie even more, for A) thinking they can outsmart us, and B) being pathetic enough to stoop low enough to admit what a piece of shit it really is by needing plants for it in the first place. -- The person whom I think we should be pissed off at the most however, is not the two obvious sacks of shit, Bay and Murphy, but Speilberg. He has 20 times the clout of these jokers, and if he wanted something, or cared enough about this property, he would have had these crapola designs, and script changed long, long ago. But he doesn't. He's almost as corrupt as these two douche bags, he just happens to have talent, albeit dwindling talent.
See you on opening day, SnakesOnABicycle! by googamooga	Sep 5th, 2006 01:10:09 PM
Signed, NOT A PLANT
Prime feels like prime by Cory849	Sep 5th, 2006 01:10:57 PM
I know prime doesnt look like G1 Optimus Prime but I cant help but feel that when I look at this design and know that the original voice actor will be used, that this design certainly feels like Optimus Prime. I think they caught his essence very very well. Having read the script, I still think its way too much about the humans, the plot is capture the flag and is basically crap, and all in all it is a pretty cheesy basic hollywood braindead summer pic but my problem really isnt with the designs. Well except for megatron. but that goes without saying. Incidentally, megatron looks awesome. He just doesnt look like megatron. Still though - awesome looking scary bad guy robot design.
Concept Art by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 5th, 2006 01:11:57 PM
I think if you compare this image with the image from the convention poster (w/ gun), you'll find that this is a concept rendering. There are subtle differences between the two - primarily the head, eyes, and feet. The poster image looks sleeker and less clunky. More importantly, it hints at a much better designed face/head with possibly glowing, yellow eyes. I'm gonna go on record and say that the poster image is much closer to the finished product we will see in the film. Most of you catz probably won't care though...
Why can't they have regular, moving mouths like by Jak0lantern01	Sep 5th, 2006 01:13:42 PM
every single incarnation that came before? If we can get nano-whatevers allowing them to morph at will, why can't this same concept apply to moving mouths? Plotholes galore with this one. Oh, and actors that are given full, free reign in their acting. How about that cute chick they hired as the 'love interest' that can't act. "Act scared", her shoulders go up. "No, really, act SCARED", shoulders go up higher, perhaps a hint of shudder. Geeze, she better get naked in this movie, for it sounds like that's all her part is worth. Episode 1 style acting. They must have all gone to the same school.
Transformers will suck ass. by brycemonkey	Sep 5th, 2006 01:14:01 PM
You know it will. I was excited until I heard it was Bay directing and I saw the pictures that either look like crap normal cars or cheap plastic toys. Haters unite!
LOOKS GREAT!! by shakermakerman	Sep 5th, 2006 01:15:04 PM
So stop whining..
RE: moto by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 5th, 2006 01:16:09 PM
If memory serves me, I think that guy has been on AICN for a long time. Doesn't necessarily disprove the idea that he may be a longserving corporate agent though...
The toy will Fail, just like Beast Machines by Squashua	Sep 5th, 2006 01:16:11 PM
Back in the day they did Beast Machines. And somehow they designed these characters for the show and didn't consult the toy manufacturer. So absolutely NONE of the toys looked anything like the show characters, and the show characters transformed in such a fashion that it would have been near impossible to create toys. At some point they finally did make near-show-accurate toys, but ended up being way-too-little, way-too-late.
looks too busy by reckni	Sep 5th, 2006 01:16:12 PM
but what the Hell do I know?
Looks awesome! by One Voice	Sep 5th, 2006 01:17:09 PM

also, is this the official site for bay's transformers? by reckni	Sep 5th, 2006 01:17:24 PM

Mr. Nice Gaius by tile_mcgillus	Sep 5th, 2006 01:18:05 PM
I think you might be right. That blurry ass pic honestly did have more weight and character than this. I went into that pic and took out the flames and thought it looked pretty good. Here is the pic. http://tinyurl.com/gsuju
shakermakerman by SnakesOnABicycle	Sep 5th, 2006 01:19:15 PM
is obviously getting tired of signing on and off his different screen names, having to put his password in each time, remember which one goes with moto, or Aintitshot, all while having to bring Bay his coffee and coke. Cokeheads!
Well, I knew there was a problem by Jak0lantern01	Sep 5th, 2006 01:20:18 PM
when Spielberg was indicating wanting to go back to the feel of the Back to the Future movies. Not that I don't like BTTF, love it, but TF is not BTTF. It's war, and a fairly brutal, unrelenting war at that. Both sides decimated and a world ravaged (Cybertron). But it's going to be lighthearted family fare. OK. How about casting Nickelodeon's 14 year old cast in the sequel to Private Ryan, and call it a family film. I'm not saying that I'm expecting a bloody or excessively violent TF film, it's just not BTTF. By the way, my first car did nothing but break down, not the greatest experience.
Boo hoo fucking hoo by deadlegend	Sep 5th, 2006 01:20:59 PM
Prime looks about as badass as he can get. Start throwing all his original armor on, and he'll like like a fucking live-action toy. These designs are badass. BADASS I TELL YOU! When the Power Rangers movie was made, they changed their costumes and changed the look of the megazords. And if any of you bitches think Transformers were at any time more popular than the Power Rangers, then you're out of your fucking element. Power Rangers was twice the show Transformers was, and is still on the air. If they could improve by changing the look of the PRs, then the same will work for a live-action TFs. PERIOD BITCHES.
Looks very cool, BUT... by ZombiKiller86	Sep 5th, 2006 01:21:29 PM
how the hell are they gonna make a toy that can transform into THAT? There's a shit load of detail there, and I'm not sure if it's entirely possible.
How long before some photoshop geek recolors the pic? by IMMORTAL-1	Sep 5th, 2006 01:22:14 PM
You know it's coming.
Tile by Jak0lantern01	Sep 5th, 2006 01:24:21 PM
that recolored Prime looks much better, no question. KISS = Keep It Simple Stupid.
tile_mcgillus by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 5th, 2006 01:25:50 PM
Nice job. Although the flames don't really bother me, I don't buy the "ribs" excuse. I'd rather they just say that when they went with the Peterbilt/semi design, the solid red & blue looked too plain. No. Instead we get "ribs". Wha? *** Thanks for taking a closer look at the poster image, too.
How come... by Cory849	Sep 5th, 2006 01:27:16 PM
How come star trek is allowed to indiscriminately change the uniforms anytime they want? I never hear anyone bitch about that.... Oh, more importantly - I have to agree that optimus looks much better without the flames based on this rendering that tile_McGillus else already linked above. http://tinyurl.com/gsuju
Also googamooga by SnakesOnABicycle	Sep 5th, 2006 01:27:50 PM
you reverse psychology has confused me, so I guess I will see you on opening day. I'll be pulling up in my new SUV, the one with flames on the side. And Megatron's mouth is starting to make me horny. And Shaia's "stappler's will burn your face off" comments have given me something to think about. Like, I wonder how many slaves the Bay family has owned, and am I a piece of shit... cause he probably is right. Where am I?
Full Disclosure Time by repus3000	Sep 5th, 2006 01:30:22 PM

Bad ass! by DeCypher44	Sep 5th, 2006 01:32:38 PM
I never had an issue with OP's design. This looks really good. The script blows ass, but I like this look.
repus, good points by SnakesOnABicycle	Sep 5th, 2006 01:35:47 PM
and the whole "site maitenence/updating" thing, that really resulted in NO new features, but a mysterious loss of the "Hi I'm Megatron" talk back, that was obvious a giant gleaming pile of shit that the studio had to whiff, and know that lots of people were seeing and agreeing how bad this movie looks.
Prime Looks Awesome! Can't wait to see him in Action by ganymede2010	Sep 5th, 2006 01:38:07 PM
You fucking whinners.
Uh, SnakesOnABicycle... by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 5th, 2006 01:38:26 PM
Look over to your right. The Megatron TB is still in full swing.
...and another thing... by repus3000	Sep 5th, 2006 01:38:27 PM

Not badass! by KnightJustice	Sep 5th, 2006 01:38:37 PM
Michael Bay keeps raping this franchise. I'm a G1 guy and this thing just looks nothing like the Optimus we know and love.
that megatron tb is back now by tile_mcgillus	Sep 5th, 2006 01:39:30 PM
I thought the same thing at first.
repeat this over and over again... by Flux_brown	Sep 5th, 2006 01:40:01 PM
TINO TINO TINO....
repus3000 by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 5th, 2006 01:42:18 PM
Just two things: Hasbro owns the rights to the franchise. Their goal is to make more money off of new toys. If they want to redesign classic characters from 20 years ago because they want to hook a whole new generation on their product, who are we to argue? (The end result may just be that they lose their fans from 20+ years ago.) Second: Godzilla didn't bomb because of the design, it bombed because it was STUPID.
All I gott say is.... Bay's head on a stick!! by IAmJack'sUserID	Sep 5th, 2006 01:42:28 PM
Wow, what a talentless hack! He's fucking up something so simple!
mr, nice by SnakesOnABicycle	Sep 5th, 2006 01:42:37 PM
I had checked a few times the last few days and the Megatron talkback was completely empty. There goes my grassy knoll theory. At least shits like ganymede can keep me paranoid. Mmm paranoid.
SnakesOnABicycle by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 5th, 2006 01:49:23 PM
I can understand that. No doubt the TB was "empty" because it had essentially run out of steam (despite that fact that it resurfaced today).
Face it, NOTHING would please you fuckers by performingmonkey	Sep 5th, 2006 01:50:58 PM
I'm not saying it's an excellent design, but even if it was the coolest design ever you would still go out of your way to comment on it's shitness, how Bay is raping your 10-year-old ass harder than Lucas, well fuck you all.
We could already tell it was bad design ... by veritasses	Sep 5th, 2006 01:53:15 PM
when it was small. Making it big doesn't change anyone's opinion.
Where the hell does he store the matrix of leadership?? by DarthMartel	Sep 5th, 2006 01:54:20 PM
Nimrods didn't think of that. Apparently they failed to read up on their Transformers lore.
I'm glad you fucktards hate the designs by ganymede2010	Sep 5th, 2006 01:55:02 PM
Less stupid ass people to wait in line behind. Go and play with your Spiderman toys tranfanboi's!
Wow, the new Transformers pic of the day. by The Heathen	Sep 5th, 2006 01:55:18 PM
I'm already sick of it and I've got about 10 more months of this stuff. Yay. That said, I hope the movie is fun and ra ra, but after hearing how the bots would be kept 'secret' for the fans to freak out over more, well, there's been pics every day. Bah.
WOW That looks FUCKING TERRIBLE!!! by jabberwookie	Sep 5th, 2006 01:55:23 PM
I just get angrier and angrier every time I see this kind of shit. It looks like Optimus is on his way to a ho down for some moonshine, and line dancing. If i ever come across micheal bay in real life I will throw hot coffee in his fucking face.
and Optimus looks like a monkey... by veritasses	Sep 5th, 2006 01:55:29 PM
or gorilla.
by LV	Sep 5th, 2006 01:55:52 PM
That isnt his real head. look at the recent rendering from that poster with prime and his big silver gun. the head is different compared with these pics, which frankly look retarded. that head shot that leaked just after that early rendering of his arm was MILES better , even tho the eyes were blanked out but from that and the recent leaks i can tell this head and that one are not the same. so don't fret people, he ain't gonna look like a retardicon(i luv adult swim:)) flames are still in for the long haul. o yeah, and these pics also relate to that other leak were the truck has a "scoop" above the grill....thsi shit is old man, leaks are so bad when they release the wrong shit and confuse everyone and make them bitch.
all your transformers pics here: by all your base	Sep 5th, 2006 01:58:45 PM
all the leaked pics so far including prime, megatron, starscream, ratchet, jazz, bumblebee, scorpinok, and blackout. http://tinyurl.com/ge7ly
Well, as badly as Bay & Co. keep... by Childe Roland	Sep 5th, 2006 02:00:34 PM
...fucking up the pre-release buzz generation with all their justification and excuse-making, I'm still pretty satisfied with this Prime design. This with Cullen's voice will be enough to get me to rent this. A well cut trailer might push me into matinee territory. If they change that Megatron design and get Welker to voice him, I may well pay full price...just to see if it turns out to be any good.
oh stfu Ganymede... by Ricky Henderson	Sep 5th, 2006 02:01:14 PM
That Regina woman got banned from AICN, and with the way you've been posting, you'll be next very soon. Stop trolling in TF talkbacks, we're sick of your nonsense.
Its in the eyes by BRUTICUS	Sep 5th, 2006 02:01:24 PM
Uhh ever heard of IT'S IN THE EYES? That is NOT Optimus' face!! What is the problem??? That is not his stance either. Go back and watch the cartoons PLEASE.
....wha? People don't like it? by MemBirdman	Sep 5th, 2006 02:03:03 PM
I think the potential is great! C'mon, fanboys...remember how Optimus was first created. Transcom 1 scanned machines and repaired the Autobots in their likenesses. And considering that the ship crashed in some desert supposedly in the US (likely New Mexico/Arizona area), how unrealistic is Transcom 1 to scan a semi with that paint job?! It's pretty realistic and I'm waiting to see how it all comes together.
I ain't no pussy Thenedain!!! by Hairy Nutsack	Sep 5th, 2006 02:03:54 PM
800 frames of new video rendering now as we speak. I'll spend the rest of today adding music and sound effects. Should have it up on YouTube late today, early tomorrow. Shameless Plug In the meantime everyone go see my original - http://youtube.com/watch?v=WRA cwQagxhU
Less stupid people waiting in line for a BAY movie?? by IAmJack'sUserID	Sep 5th, 2006 02:04:15 PM
LOLOLOLOL!!!!
lasting impressions by repus3000	Sep 5th, 2006 02:04:34 PM
Never said that Godzilla bombed out because of the design alone
just when I thought it couldnt get worse than Flames... by jabberwookie	Sep 5th, 2006 02:05:05 PM
THEY FUCKED WITH HIS FUCKING EYES!!!! HOW HARD IS IT TO GIVE OPTIMUS FUCKING SLITS FOR HIS EYES AND BLUEISH GLOW EMMINATING FROM THEM? THERE IS NO FUCKING EXCUSE FOR THAT!! NO FUCKING EXCUSE AT ALL!!! YOU SAY... 'WE WANT IT TO LOOK MORE REALISTIC, GIVE HIM DEFINITION OF RIBS WITH THE FLAMES, WE SAY HE NEEDS TO LOOK REALISTIC WHEN HE TRANSFORMS SO CHANGE THE VEHICLE SLIGHTLY...AND THE EYES WE JUST WANT TO GIVE A BIG MIDDLE FINGER TO THE FANS" THE FLAMES ARE FUCKIN RIDICULOUS, BUT I CAN TOTALLY DIG CHANGING THE TRUCK FOR REALISM... THE KEY IS REALISM.. HOW THE FUCK DOES GIVING OPTIMUS HUMAN LOOKING EYES FIT INTO REALISM??? HE'S A FUCKING ROBOT!!! A FUCKING GOD DAMN FUCKING ROBOT... WHAT DO MOST ROBOT'S EYES LOOK LIKE??? FUCKING SLITS WITH LIGHT EMINATING FROM THEM... NOT HEIROGLYPHICS!! YOU FUCKING IDIOTS FUCK YOU MICHEAL BAY FUCK YOU IN YOUR FUCKING ASS!!
What Makes No Real Sense... by SnakesOnABicycle	Sep 5th, 2006 02:05:50 PM
is why there's so much plant activity here. The movie is almost a year away from release. Any positive or negative momentum will be lost well before then. Since they don't give a shit about the old fans, why try to convince them? The dollar, of course would be the most obvious reason, but it seems like they don't understand that they're doing more harm than good defending it. See: everything Don Murphy has done. Someone mentioned earlier the film had a lot more going for it when no one knew anything. I know most of this back and forth came from supposedly leaked pics of a shitty looking Bumblebee, but at the same time I think no response, would have been a better response from these no-talent hack flacks. Sure we can all expect a glowing "great but flawed, had fun with it anyway!" review from Harry, but even the studios should know most regular AICN-ers take his opinion with a grain of salt anyway. So I can understand Harry's non-stance on the film. What I can't, is every other writer, especially Moriarty, and Mass. Wasn't that guy brought in by Harry to be the bad guy, aka honest one? To Harry, and the rest, the people who you're not giving the time of day to; Transformers fans (most AICN regulars), are still the people most likely to frequent this site, long after this turd is flushed in the Summer of 2007. We already hate Bay, and his dingle berry infested patch of ass hair, otherwise known as Don Murphy. Why make us hate you too? We're the ones that go to your amazon.com links after all.
Ricky Henderson by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 5th, 2006 02:08:59 PM
Ha! I think it will take a lot more than that to get ol' gany banned.
WOW by adonais	Sep 5th, 2006 02:13:03 PM
Retarded. I can't think of any other word for this design but utterly retarded.
It Stinks! by Xeniten	Sep 5th, 2006 02:14:52 PM
Ugh.
Hey I can dream, MNG... by Ricky Henderson	Sep 5th, 2006 02:16:14 PM
I was just happy to see that awful Regina person get banned for being incredibly offensive in the Steve Irwin talkback. How long has Ganymede been here for? It feels like she's a recent addition (ie, plant)... But then again, I've only been posting since the spring, so perhaps I'm misstaken.
STFU Ricky We no how you feel by ganymede2010	Sep 5th, 2006 02:16:33 PM
We know you hate Prime. We know you hate Bay, we know you hate Megs, we know you hate Starscream. Why in the fuck are you still here? Get the fuck out If you hate the movie this bad. We're tired of hearing your infinite whinning little boy.
WELL by THE KNIGHT	Sep 5th, 2006 02:18:00 PM
BATMAN'S NIPPLES EQUALS FLAMES ON OTIMPUSS!!
i cant stand his eyes by Flux_brown	Sep 5th, 2006 02:18:44 PM
they look like they belong on a fuckin' totem pole...
So you've given us a clearer image of a turd. by Frankenblogger	Sep 5th, 2006 02:19:59 PM
And what I'm starting to get really annoyed about is the whole "eh. I don't really like it but I'll still go see the movie" comments. Show these fuckers in Hollywood that you mean business and DON'T SPEND YOUR MONEY ON THIS SHIT. DON'T BUY THE DVD OR RENT IT. We're DONE with this movie.
gaymanede by SnakesOnABicycle	Sep 5th, 2006 02:20:02 PM
I'm not tired of hearing from Ricky. Hell, I'm not even tired of hearing from you (for a different reason), being that people/boggers like you feed the flame of what these talkbacks are for. Fighting. Without your bad taste, and unoriginal, studio apologizing, drivel, we wouldn't have anyone to make fun of execpt folks like Don Murphy, and how they talk like Donald Duck. On coke.
Since this movie is Drivel why waste your time on it? by ganymede2010	Sep 5th, 2006 02:24:10 PM
I mean it's not the movie you want, why post hundreds of messages about it? Boycott the movie. Don't post about it, don't go see, and don't support it in any way. It works for me when I don't like a movie.
Flames on Optimus is like flames on by brokebackcowboy	Sep 5th, 2006 02:24:40 PM
Any motor vehicle. Stupid. Stickers don't make them go faster! Is Optimus a hybrid vehicle and does it have low emissions? Hello.
Yikes, you're an awful human being Ganymede by Ricky Henderson	Sep 5th, 2006 02:25:14 PM
Seriously, screaming at people to shut up when they have an opinion that is contrary to your own really isn't very mature. And you're completely wrong I dont hate Prime, as you suggested. I just have issues with the Michael Bay version of Prime. Big different smarty-pants. I don't hate the movie, I just think it is sad what has happened to it because there was really great potential there. All the designs look pretty impressive really. The only problem is they're not transformers. Don't accuse me of hating anything--the only one here on the TB who is full of hate is you Ganymede. Begone. Man you're a shrill girl.
YackBacker by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 5th, 2006 02:25:33 PM
I'm not entirely sure of TBer "manipulation" but something does feel amiss. AICN has been getting these "leaks" well in advance of the sites that are devoted ONLY to everything Transformers. I now believe they have contacts within the production who are either taking chances with material or they are being instructed to strategically reveal materials to gauge a response. The primary clue for this is in the Megatron design. AICN displayed the images provided by "Etienne" - a source known to Merrick. Then "Etienne" requested that the images be removed...NOT the studio. Why the studio has requested that some images be removed (i.e. the first images of Prime's truckform, the Bumblebee model, etc.) and not others remains a mystery. Now, we've got this new rendering of Prime right on the heels of the convention poster image. It appears to have the same shading and texturing as the Megatron images. Someone is definitely giving AICN the dish and the Haters are eating it up.
"Hey I can dream, MNG..." by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 5th, 2006 02:27:03 PM
Apparently, so can ganymede2010! ;-)
As long as we're all piling our 2 cents onto this shit by finky089	Sep 5th, 2006 02:27:33 PM
Might as well go with the old stanby, cuz I'm just too tired to bother rehashing how this movie has become the epitome of "FUCKED UP."
gaymenede - It also works for me... by SnakesOnABicycle	Sep 5th, 2006 02:27:48 PM
to not do what shitstains like yourself say or "suggest". Don't you have more fun on the Rush Limbaugh message boards? You seem to like agreeing, and are easily upset by dissenting opinions... wouldn't you be more comfortable just letting Fox News entertain you... and Walmart clothe you?
Transformers In Name Only! by finky089	Sep 5th, 2006 02:28:32 PM
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what the script has right(spoiler alert) by Staldo	Sep 5th, 2006 02:30:51 PM
Seriously, have any real fans of the show read the script? Yes, the first 45 pages read like some lost 70's Knight Rider spinoff (or this Kroft show I haven't seen)but the script begins and ENDS with the most in-character ,epic Optimus Prime proselytizing I've read since the original comic. Anybody who has ever read a single TF comic, or seen a single episode of the series, knows Optimus basically spoke as if he was the giant robot version of Gandalf, and he is pitch perfect. Megatron's characterization is quite a bit more evil than the series, if that were possible. In the script, he is essentially the transformers' version of Sauron, an intense, looming threat who can essentially tear all that is good out of his fellow beings and pervert it to the blackest evil. Sounds good to me, the kind of villain that Michael Bay would identify with. If you followed the old series or comics at all, you would realize that the plot quickly snowballed from a few robots fighting on Earth to a galactic-scale epic, and the script essentially sets that up with the last lines. The script writers' knowledge of Cybertronian geography is pretty incredible as well. THE TORUS STATES OF PRAXUS are referenced for christ sakes. ] Please tell me there are other people who read the script and saw glimmers of hope in it. I know will be there opening day with popcorn and smuggled-in Goodbar bites just to see what was done with the cool ideas that have been scattered amongst the crap, (similar to my attitude about the Star Wars prequels), and hope to god that Shia LeBouf wasn't given too much creative control.(see his interview)
Yeah MNG, they're testing the waters with these pics by Ricky Henderson	Sep 5th, 2006 02:32:51 PM
Because how hard is it to change a CG character's design? This is the third different version of Prime we've seen and there are some subtle differences between all three (color schemes, level of detail, articulation, etc). So who's to say the people at Paramount/Dreamworks aren't leaking these pics to AICN and other sites on purpose to gague fan reaction? They know perfectly well these designs can be changed and maybe they will based on fan response. That would eliminate the need for people like Ganymede to promote the film all day long on AICN...
Bay was clearly full of it with the "ribs" justificatio by IndustryKiller	Sep 5th, 2006 02:33:13 PM
Because those flames don't represent ribs. He should just admit he thought it would be cool to go the EXTREME!!! route with Optimus. Well he was wrong, it looks ridiculous, so change it. It's not too late. don't be an arrogant prick just change the fucking paint. Do they have any concept of how much good will they would build up with that simple act?
by Flux_brown	Sep 5th, 2006 02:34:56 PM
but then they'll probably see people like ganymede's reaction and consider it positive feedback, an excuse to go ahead with their dastardly plans....
flame war city by tile_mcgillus	Sep 5th, 2006 02:35:52 PM
Just stop guys. Agree to disagree. Gaynemede and Snakes both of you have made your opinions very clear, just as I have. The reason we are still here is that we like talking about movies and all have enjoyed Transformers in the past. I loved Little Miss Sunshine but you don't see me posting hundred posts on its Tb about how sweet it is. The only person who shouldnt be here is me, because I getting paid a lot of money to make a graphic standards manual and am critiquing a movie a year away instead (alright Im almost done and just pacing myself on the GSM). Anyway, what if those eyes light up? Could they not look like egyptian shit?
Shut the fuck up, hating bitches by deadlegend	Sep 5th, 2006 02:36:33 PM
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Ricky by SnakesOnABicycle	Sep 5th, 2006 02:36:45 PM
I agree that this seems like what the studio's trying to do, but it's the way the do it that pisses most people off, and inturn gives them the shittest response. I mean, imagine it, if a head of the studio was OPENLY sent these in, without leaking, and OPENLY asked the fans for their opinions. Not only would it give the impression that they CARED what we thought, but would give them a clearer idea of what we thought, instead of this muddled/paranoid (however rightfully so) response that they're getting now. They can't handle, or even have a concept of honesty. That's why. Oh, I just answered my own question.
He looks like he was designed by West Coast Choppers by rev_skarekroe	Sep 5th, 2006 02:37:45 PM
Or he was contestant on Pimp My Bot or something.
ass by Staldo	Sep 5th, 2006 02:40:45 PM
Knight rider was an 80's series. I'm stupid. Also Chitty-Chitty Bang Bang was the original Transformer. Search your feelings, you know it to be true.
Hey, Ricky Henderson... by googamooga	Sep 5th, 2006 02:41:30 PM
You criticize gany for telling people with negative opinions to stfu, but then in a previous post, you tell him you hope he gets banned. Why? Because he's looking forward to the movie and you're not? What a great human being YOU are.
If Optimus Prime is a pimp than Bumblebee is his hoe by tile_mcgillus	Sep 5th, 2006 02:42:11 PM
It is interesting that we are receving sooooooooo much stuff over a year in advance, i mean they havent even done the digital work yet. Their still shooting for christ's sakes...so there is hope. I really though how much hatred would we have to spew in order to get them to change. Remember CAtwoman......no one liked it and they didn't change it.
Tile by SnakesOnABicycle	Sep 5th, 2006 02:45:26 PM
What I do, and what gaymenede does, are two very different things. I try to EXPRESS my opinion (and I'll do it as much as I want, thanks) and gaymenede tries to SUPPRESS everyone else's, albeit in the most unconvincing "Shut the fuck up, haters!" kind of way. And I hope it doesn't stop, and I hope more people aren't as SEEMINGLY level headed as you, cause it makes for bad entertainment. And let's face it, that's what we're here for.
"Who the fuck is this Autobot?" by photoboy	Sep 5th, 2006 02:45:40 PM
Quote stolen from: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =bq1_6D9QS9Y Bay's Optimus Prime is a total traversty. It's unbelievable how completely shit they've made this film.
tile_mcgillus by Flux_brown	Sep 5th, 2006 02:45:53 PM
and oddly enough, up till a month ago, this project was top secret! does anybody remember bay saying nobody'll get to see the robots untill opening day? WTF happened??!
besides the flames by The Only Woj	Sep 5th, 2006 02:46:09 PM
I can definitely live with this. he was too thin in those concept drawings, these seems to have bulked him up. I like it. I'd like it more without the flames, but I like it.
Which dead legend... by Hairy Nutsack	Sep 5th, 2006 02:50:07 PM
Which dead legend is deadlegend anyway? I'm going to go with Liberace, with Freddy Mercury vying for second place. Other possibilities - Rock Hudson and Rip Taylor.
Yep I'm an Awful Human Being! by ganymede2010	Sep 5th, 2006 02:55:24 PM
I love this movie. Go Michael Bay! Your track record speaks for itself. Megatron is awesome so is Prime and I LOVE that Jazz is a solistice. Muhahahahahaha
WTF, how can you like THAT?? It's a shitobot! by IAmJack'sUserID	Sep 5th, 2006 02:55:29 PM
Looks like a robot got raped by a fucking Unicron sized blender!
Snakesonatransformer by tile_mcgillus	Sep 5th, 2006 02:55:36 PM
I am level-headed but I recognize suck when I see it. I posted this in the Megatron TB several days ago: "This movie is evidence of the epidemic of apathy and complacency that is acrossed the nation. The filmmakers are suspecting that the average uninformed viewer will love this movie. I mean this formulaic script mimics some of the most successful movies of the past decade. THey will use the excuse that people just want to be entertained. THat is an excuse. It is the simple fact that they are appealing to the lowest common denominator. THink about it. Art and politics have always, through the entire span of history, only been accessable to the educated or higher class. Up until now art has always appealed to the highest intellect and portion of society. Until the last century when consumerism actually became profitable did this shift. We are in anew situation. TO me this is why art galleries are viewed as aristocratic and pompous, because they refuse to lower their art to the lowest common denominator. They ask their audience to think, something that is resented in this society. To me this is traced back to our constantly diminishing education standards. As the popolous becomes less and less informed (but with more tools then ever to be informed) society continues to lower its standards. THe average layman is now the target of our media formats. This is due to the fact that the largest segment of our populous is the lower and lower middle class, in areas where education is the worst. Our society is shifting to focus its efforts on these people. This shift is causing our culture to be dumbed down. So the filmmakers are focusing on these people instead of making quality product, they will make product that they believe will sell. I hold no illusions that cinema isnt about money but true artists of cinema have forgone this systemic problem by making unfiltered films. THere is a saying that no one has ever gone hungry underestimating the intelligence of the american public. I resent this. I resent that we are constantly underestimated and demeaned in our culture by the people in power (politics, media etc). This movei is a prime example of this problem. Instead of asking their audience to open their minds and elevate themselves, the director/producers/financeers are dumbing down this film to make money. It is the plain old 3 day cash dash. Something I have come to resent. If you make something that is phenomenal...it will find its audience. In no way do I think less of the any average human being, just the people in control who stereotype them (i referenced this earlier). Anyway, Michael Bay can suck my dick."
To Flux_brown by Frankenblogger	Sep 5th, 2006 02:56:14 PM
LEAKED pictures and script happened and then the shitstorm from fans.
Dead Legend is really Don Simpson's ghost. by Ricky Henderson	Sep 5th, 2006 02:58:15 PM
I'm not even sure if that's witty or clever, but screw it, its late in the afternoon and I'm posting it anyway. And Googamooga, you're right, my first post to Ganymede was a little out of line. What can I say? Plants like her drive me nuts...
Flux by tile_mcgillus	Sep 5th, 2006 02:59:51 PM
That just rings of WTF? We have basically seen all the transformers, read the script and passed judgment and these MFers are still filming. This is weird city 5000. Either A> they care and are going to change. B> there are just serious leaks destroying the whole "keep it secret, keep it safe" or C> they want us to burn out early so when it does come out we are bitching up storm. Think Snakes on a Plane but in reverse. We hate on it so much people are afraid to go see it. So if we bitch ourselves out now a year from now we wont care anymore.
Re: Bay's track record? by Frankenblogger	Sep 5th, 2006 03:00:46 PM
Hello?!? Pearl Harbor? Bad Boys II? The Island? You call this a good track record? His last three films SUCKED. In fact, I'd go so far as tto say the only GOOD movie he's done is The Rock. And even then I may be pushing it simply because of the hilarious fucking outtakes of Ed Harris from the Criterion DVD.
Everyone: Ricky, tile, Snakes, et al by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 5th, 2006 03:00:57 PM
For me, I think it's gonna come down to this = the first real trailer. During the Cullen announcement at Comic-Con, they stated that fully rendered robots would not even be available to the production itself until January/February. Now, they seem to be shooting for the first real trailer set premier sometime during the Holidays (presumably in November). With all the hubbub surrounding the alleged script, the leaked images, the Don Murphy fiasco, and so on...it's going to come down to what they can show us in the trailer that is going to make-or-break this movie. I'm still willing to wait. But after all the craziness surrounding this flick, they REALLY need to hit a homerun with that first bit of finalized footage.
hey...bad boys 2 was pretty cool! by Flux_brown	Sep 5th, 2006 03:03:38 PM

Yep the Island was great, so was Bad Boys 2 by ganymede2010	Sep 5th, 2006 03:04:49 PM
So you were saying?
You people are taking this FAR too seriously by Acappellaman	Sep 5th, 2006 03:06:37 PM
For crying out oud, you whiners, this isn't even a screen capture! It's a friggin rendering of a robot. Come on! Give them a little leeway, will ya? You guys are worse than the whiners that b!tched about Spider-Man's organic webbing. Chill out!
MNG and the trailer of hope by tile_mcgillus	Sep 5th, 2006 03:07:41 PM
I will need to see in this trailer for it to work: vast differences from the script, gorgeous transformers in ferocious battle, oh and no flames on prime unless he really is on fire.
Danny McCoy should just be Hawk from GI JOE in TF by IMMORTAL-1	Sep 5th, 2006 03:08:43 PM
With so many of the main characters being army guys they should have just gone all the way and then characters from GI Joe. Tyrese could be Snake Eyes...
Tile by SnakesOnABicycle	Sep 5th, 2006 03:10:13 PM
You win the presidency!... with that little novella of a speech. However, you're wrong. Here's where. The more things change, the more they stay the same, blah blah blah, but it's fucking right. Maybe you've heard of Shakespeare? Well, his plays were originally intended to be consumed by the masses. And they were. Art has always been available, even now that it takes only the click of a mouse to be able to view any piece in virtually any museum, it has only highlighted the fact that the masses aren't interested... unless there's blood, and violence. Something that was prevelant in Shakespeare's plays. Some people call those things art too. Anyway, other than being boring (while making some nice points too) I don't really know what of what I said you were responding to. The levelheaded comment? Get real. Look at where you are. A site run by a guy who wanted to spunk on himself after Blade 2. The real reason Bay gets to keep making movies is that he taps into whitetrash culture. He did it really well with Armageddon, but then has gotten lazy with each subsquent film. I loved The Rock, and was mildly entertained by the forementioned. I like stupid shit, just as much as I do old jap, french, and german cinema. It's all the same, it just matters how well it's done. If Cameron was making Transformers (which I'm sure after this comes out and sucks, just like the rumored Alien 5 that was to be made by he and Ridley Scott, which we found out about not too long ago after the shitfest that was Resurrection) I'm sure there would be just as many booms, and cliches... only they would be done so much BETTER. I just realized, I'm not even responding to what you said, I just like to hear myself talk. Or type. Who the fuck cares.
Agreed--the trailer is their last shot by Ricky Henderson	Sep 5th, 2006 03:11:17 PM
For fans anyway. We all know 8-10 year olds are going to drag their parents to the movie regaurdless of the buzz surrounding it. I'll say it again: I'm still in the camp that is hoping to see these things in motion and be won over. A trailer filled with generic Michael Bay's generic shock and awe isn't going to impress many people. The need to figure out a way to capture the awe and majesty that is inherent in the liscence.
WTF??? FCK YOU SPEILBERG!!! FCK YOU HASBRO! by R.C. the "Wise"	Sep 5th, 2006 03:14:56 PM
MUTHAF*CK MICHAEL BAY AND DON MURPHY!!!
FUCK EVERYONE AT ILM!!! by R.C. the "Wise"	Sep 5th, 2006 03:17:09 PM
You guys fucked up a sure thing. No wonder James Cameron is teaming with WETA now.
It's no test by adonais	Sep 5th, 2006 03:18:25 PM
I think it's pretty obvious why they are releasing images. Because they know that anybody with taste and anyone who knows Transformers will hate these designs so the more they let them be seen by the public the more we'll get used to seing them. If they were to suddenly release a trailer or the movie itself without warning the fan reaction will be so much worse and intense. It's the same way the music industry oversaturates the airwaves with whatever they call a single these days. How else would they get people to buy Christina Aguilera or Green Day? If you hear a song at Best Buy, then go across the street to Subway and hear the same song, then turn on a commercial and hear the same song eventually you'll hear something catchy in it just because you're so used to hearing it. The same thing with these images, the more you see them, the less strange and offensive they seem.
Evidently ILM has an "A-team" and a "B-team" by Ricky Henderson	Sep 5th, 2006 03:22:10 PM
Remember "Hulk" ? Yeah, pretty hard to believe thats all they could make with that huge budget, but guess what? The big green guy looked awful. Who's to say the same thing won't happen here? I'm not too solf on Weta either, some of their stuff on LOTR just looked like absolute garbage. Hopefully they can kick it up a notch for "Halo." Now there's a movie I'm dying to hear some info about... It would be nice to read happy news for a change. Where's my Halo movie news damnit?
RE: FUCK EVERYONE AT ILM!!! by NuteG	Sep 5th, 2006 03:22:20 PM
I thought Michael Bay was working with Digital Domain on this movie - not ILM.
"capture the awe and majesty" by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 5th, 2006 03:23:32 PM
Well, I don't really think there has been much of that in all the cartoon incarnations. HOWEVER, you want to capture the possible awe and majesty in a live action format? Give us a trailer with a fuckin' hero shot of Optimus Prime that leaves our collective jaws on the floor.
RE: FUCK EVERYONE AT ILM!!! by NuteG	Sep 5th, 2006 03:24:19 PM
...But I've been wrong before. Sorry.
Snakesonamichaelbay by tile_mcgillus	Sep 5th, 2006 03:26:39 PM
You seemed to be insinuating that I had no real opinion about the subject and was meandering through the TFTBs. I just thought you guys sounded like little bitches whiny, again, anyway we are not going to accomplish anything sinking into the call each other names and tell them to leave attitude. As for being wrong about art. I understand your point about Shakespear and agree that it was available to all. The gallery came and threw vegetables while the rich and aristocratic sat in the balcony looking down. You can't tell me that mainstream cinema isnt the complete epitomy of the downing down to make cash scenario. I point to White Chicks, Little Man, XXX, F&F, FF etc etc. It depends on you define well made. Look at all of Michael Bay's films visually their well made. I think the Masterpiece Optimus Prime is well made, some people have called it stupid and ridiculous. I think we are agreeing on virtaully everything just differ on how we would go about it.
SPO!! by Shepard Bauer	Sep 5th, 2006 03:27:09 PM
So who here is a fan of Optimus's Soul Patch? That's the one update I'm starting to like!
"downing down" :dumbing down" by tile_mcgillus	Sep 5th, 2006 03:30:08 PM
okay there were a lot of typing errors in that post. Deal with it.
Do you guys know... by fortheloveofgod	Sep 5th, 2006 03:31:00 PM
That these things are not real pictures........the Transformers will look like the old cartoon ones in the movie. How is that Optimus going to change into a truck? The answer is......it won't.
See! That's why it's fun to argue. by SnakesOnABicycle	Sep 5th, 2006 03:38:22 PM
We see that we both feel similar but in different ways. Then we become friends. Aww. And I wasn't insinuating that you had no real opinion, but the fact that you were asking people to basically grow up on AICN was pointless. I agree that most mainstream shit is shit, but I can also appreicate a well made popcorn movie, and can respect it just as much as I do something made by Kurosawa. Aliens comes to mind. If you want to look at popcorn, or pop culture as art, look no further than Cameron's masterpiece. Iconic, dumb enough for the people in the red states, witty, genuinely touching and dramatic, well shot, and paced, and above all ENTERTAINING. I don't look at shit like White Chicks, Little Man, XXX, or Fantastic Four as films. I look at them as products. The 3 dozen or so twinkies all the studios have to churn out each year to ensure profit. What the industry needs, and this country quite frankly, is a major MAJOR major failure. That dip in the box office last year, when everyone was watching and agonizing over how each week was worse than they year before, was the best thing that could have happened to the film industry, unfortunately this year things have somewhat recovered. What needs to happen is failure on a massive, consistent level, just like it did back in the 60's when all the big studio tentpole movies were bombing... We have them to thank for the 70's and the second golden era of cinema.
Ugh. He looks depressed without the faceplate by DOGSOUP	Sep 5th, 2006 03:38:46 PM
Maybe he's upset at how awful he looks, like going to the prom in a hand me down dress. It's a big robot for sure but it ain't Optimus Prime.
soul patch by Staldo	Sep 5th, 2006 03:39:03 PM
NOW people notice the soul patch? small chin protrusions have been part of transformers designs since 19-fucking-84/ almost every robot with a face has one of them in the toy or cartoon version, including the females. In the original toys it was inspired by Egyptian death masks and Kabuto. Optimus now has a mouth and chin, thus he has the "soul patch".
He looked better when he was out of focus by Phategod2	Sep 5th, 2006 03:44:51 PM
and ganymede this is a AICN TB we are not here to stroke anyone's ego or to sit here and say how great this movie is going to be. did you sit there and spow your blind optimism when Batman & robin came out, or did you just slink in a corner and decide that you weren't going to see it. this is a talkback so that's what we do, most of the opinions are negative so guess what? your going to have alot of negative Talk backs. but you sound perfect for DonMurphy.net you should sign up. but here we have total freedom of speech you can post your blind optimism, and we can all live in the world of reality.
I was wondering what his butt looked like by kafka07	Sep 5th, 2006 03:49:53 PM
Thanks now I can die happy.
A movie about a low rent cartoon done in CGI. Wow. by uberman	Sep 5th, 2006 03:50:32 PM
This will be great.
The movie optimus won't have flames. by fortheloveofgod	Sep 5th, 2006 03:51:09 PM
He will look like the old cartoon with a flat nose........the thing is many fans are so sick this shit stuff that they will not watch it. Which is sad beacause a sure fire blockbuster has been destroyed.
Although... by kafka07	Sep 5th, 2006 03:51:52 PM
It would have been best if they used two tire for butt cheeks.
The Don Murphy Boards by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 5th, 2006 03:53:18 PM
I just took a look over there. Whereas the poster image seems to have impressed folks, these images are not going over too well there.
No nipples? by cromulent	Sep 5th, 2006 03:57:45 PM

Snakesonabicycle you speak truth by IndustryKiller	Sep 5th, 2006 03:58:17 PM
large scale failure would be the best thing that could ever happen to filmgoers. Nowadays the are 50 "products" to every real film that comes out. I just had the pleasure of watching the film Half Nelson with Ryan Gosling and it made me smile that the real acting of the 70's isn't dead after all. It's unarguable that the mid to late 70's was the pinnacle of cinema and the closer we get to that the better.
Bay's Message Boards by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 5th, 2006 03:59:37 PM
Now Bay's blog administrator, Nelson, has chimed in on these: "Old stuff. This design was around that of October 2005." ** http://tinyurl.com/pts9x
Hey RC, by Shaner Jedi	Sep 5th, 2006 04:00:33 PM
ILM designs stuff that meets Bay's approval, not whatever they want you douchebag. Nate, ILM is the main fx company on the show. BTW, there are no A or B teams at ILM you little bitches. If you're available, they use you.
Why so many leaks? by fortheloveofgod	Sep 5th, 2006 04:01:32 PM
Is asslicking Quint giving fake info and pics out?
None of these have a recognizeable sillouette. by modlight	Sep 5th, 2006 04:09:05 PM
if they backlight these characters they'd all look alike. No one would mistake Jazz for Optimus or Bumblebee in the old cartoon because they looked like their vehicles. Now they all look the same. I'm back to being angered.
DAMN YOU MICHAEL BAY! by MCMLXXVI	Sep 5th, 2006 04:10:02 PM

Phategod2, Schumaucker was robbed for Best Director! by ganymede2010	Sep 5th, 2006 04:10:25 PM
Batman & Robin was the shiz! NOT....
Wow, AICN is really pushing this flick. by Orbots Commander	Sep 5th, 2006 04:12:24 PM
Yeah, I get it--targeted marketing. But since most of the fanbase, which I'm not really one of (just a general sci-fi/action/horror fan) have really just dismissed this flick at this point, I think AICN pushing it is only going to make it worse, box-office wise. The constant hype and the hard sell is bringing back memories of Emmerich's Godzilla flick.
I like cartoons and toys by filmcans	Sep 5th, 2006 04:13:46 PM
...and yet...who cares? I'm shocked people are reacting as if Transformers has any cohesion in its universe. What's canon? The cartoon? The comics? Which cartoon? What comics? It's a TOY LINE with licsenced junk to go along with it. How can anybody RUIN it?
toy commercial by Staldo	Sep 5th, 2006 04:15:58 PM
Why is anybody excited about a movie based on a badly animated half-hour toy commercial? There, I posted it so the usual condescending assmilks don't have to take time out of reading Proust and jacking off to Moore's Lost Girls.
Goodbye Steve Irwin by talkbackgeek	Sep 5th, 2006 04:20:47 PM
Crikey! Rest in peace Steve.
Looks like the TF minions are madder than ever now by brokebackcowboy	Sep 5th, 2006 04:21:55 PM
Might as well wrap up production before any more money is wasted. Optimus Prime looks like it was made from spare parts and should be standing outside an Autozone. WTF? Too much detailing and no personality.
It makes me actually feel good about Megatron's... by DOGSOUP	Sep 5th, 2006 04:26:46 PM
...Vagina Dentata face. That's a bad sign.
I can see what they are doing by Larry of Arabia	Sep 5th, 2006 04:27:05 PM
He looks more human and not like a bunch of boxes locked together with joints. Defined arms and legs, and tubes and wires like sinews. Am I mistaken or does he have nipples?? I've been avoiding judgement so far, it lacks the charm of the older transformers. To me what made them cool was that they were still cars. The proof will be in the movie, however. We shall see.
70's Movies by Jak0lantern01	Sep 5th, 2006 04:28:58 PM
OK, well at least we have a few people here seem to agree that movies of the 70's rocked. Acting, style, innovation, all there. Something appears to have been lost since then, it's called soul. These movies have no soul. Instead, they are planned out by a corporate commitee about how to make a movie appeal to the most people possible and take no chances. Don't try to tell me redesigning Meg's and Prime is taking a chance. No, instead it's suicide. I guess we can blame Lucas and the Star Wars marketing machine. People behind the camera can claim to be making art, but instead, it's really a product. That's all. Bay can take his MTV style of filmmaking and go to....FUSE. MTV doesn't do vids anymore. Funny thing is, even bad movies from the 70's seem pretty good by today's standards.
titties by SnakesOnABicycle	Sep 5th, 2006 04:36:46 PM
before youre deleted and banned, what was that you were trying to draw?
The New Design For Optimus Prime? by SnakesOnABicycle	Sep 5th, 2006 04:37:57 PM
Whatever it was, they should go with that instead.
McTitties by rev_skarekroe	Sep 5th, 2006 04:40:34 PM
Good gravy man, don't you have a job or homework or something?
Ummm... by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 5th, 2006 04:40:43 PM
I see dead people...
Talkbackers won't accept anything short of the Cartoon by ganymede2010	Sep 5th, 2006 04:40:57 PM
No matter what Bay does. If he doesn't look like that dull and outdated cartoon lego, these girls are going cry. Cry on.
This shouldn't happen period by bishopfan85	Sep 5th, 2006 04:49:51 PM
I'm not necessarily as appalled as many of the talkbackers are in regards to this project. Personally, the second I think of a live action version of any cartoon that has such a large array of characters that would simply cost more than the current U.S.deficit, my general thought is that it just should not even be attempted. But once I hear, "Hey there's going to be a live action Transformers.", my first thought is, "Well I guess we're only going to be seeing a handfull of our favorites and there's no way that it will be able to stand true to its source material to any major degree." So here we are, we have this film coming out that I would say is more of a homage to the Transformers that we know and love. When I see the images that have been released which I understand to be prototypes that have the potential to go through an ARRAY of changes between now and release time, that is the least of my issues. Optimus looks like Optimus to me. Yeah, he's upgraded but he's recognizable. Some of them not so much, especially Megatron and I hope they plan to make plenty of changes before they come up with the final design. What concerns me most are the script reviews that indicate that there won't be much of Megatron in the film to begin with and that the Transformers don't actually talk (I haven't read myself so as far as I know that isn't confirmed). Those types of things are what make me uneasy about this film but being a fan of most of Bay's films I have faith that I won't be sitting in that theatre being completely unsatisfied. I rarely agree with talkback reviewers because I do my best to dumb myself down for the sake of action cinema (that's from years of getting the politics behind them). Needless to say, AICN would be better off not sharing much more info as its clear that nothing will satisfy those who stand loyal to the original transformers cartoon. The fact that not a single cartoon that has followed came close to being as well written or entertaining, I can't imagine this film not at the least being one of the first Transformers related pieces that doesn't completely suck since the 80's. I would be much more excitedd to see a CGI, Final Fantasy Style 2 plus hour epic Transformers Film but obviously it's too late for that so oh well.
Piece of advice to Paramount and Michael Bay: by Orbots Commander	Sep 5th, 2006 04:51:21 PM
Look, at this point you don't seem to have the hardcore Transformers fans on your side, niche as their segment might be, so quit with the "unofficial leaks". The best thing you can do for yourselves to stop with the hard sell, hunker down and finish your movie. It's going to be what's it's going to be. If the footage is bad, maybe Mr. Spielberg can help you save the movie in the editing room. Regardless, you're not doing yourselves any favors with this leaks, so quit digging while you're standing in a hole of shit and sewage and go back to work on your movie and focus on telling the best story you can tell.
why is it so bad..... by slappy jones	Sep 5th, 2006 04:53:18 PM
to want the transformers in the movie transformers which is based on the cartoon called transformers to look like fucking transformers???why is that so bad?these designs would be great if the film was called "Overly Complicated Changebots" but they just don't look anything like transformers..especially megatron. with megatron they might as well have just given him a new name..these designs sum up a bay film in everyway..over the top and totally unnecessary
How much is Paramount paying you, Harry??? by Forestal	Sep 5th, 2006 04:53:58 PM

still not sure by cabbageheat	Sep 5th, 2006 04:57:16 PM
i am a little confused by the headshots. i don't understand what I"m looking at. is that a huge nose or something? too hard to tell from these photos. i think his heads a little too thin however. hopefully some new pics will surface soon.
Optimism by SnakesOnABicycle	Sep 5th, 2006 05:02:16 PM
Anyone who thinks these designs are going to change, other than on a micro level, are just fooling themselves. They built a giant Bumble Bee robot, they already shot with that stupid purple and flamey Optimus truck, and at least most of you have realistically given up hope on Megatron. But the stuff they built, the "real" shit, is already done, designed, and most likely filmed. They wouldnt mesh with any new CGI last minute design. If they try to make Bungled Bee look any less like a serial killer, his "ultra realistic" design (he's a fucking space alien robot for fucksakes, where's the irony in that) will not mesh. If they try to make Starscream look like less of a gorilla... well you get the fucking point. Why not hope for something more realistic? Like the worst movie of all time. That way when we download it, it will at least be worth our normally designated porn bandwith, and a few laughs.
10 tons of SHIT!!!! by alienindisguise	Sep 5th, 2006 05:03:49 PM
Fuck Bay and Spielberg claiming to be Transformer fans...A real fan wouldn't piss all over the already perfect design of Prime....YYYAAARRRGGGHHHH! Oh yeah and what's up with Prime's feet?
I know how it works... by Bash_Branigan	Sep 5th, 2006 05:03:55 PM
Micahel Bay's head folds up into his @ss. Oh, wait. You meant how Optimus works...
I envy Steve Irwin by W3bzpinn3r	Sep 5th, 2006 05:03:59 PM
I wish a stingray would pierce my heart and kill me instantly, so I'll never be subjected to this shitty movie.
Sweet Christmas Crap! by Playhouse	Sep 5th, 2006 05:10:46 PM
My car!!! Dear lord, that face is worse than the rest of the body. I'm done. That cashed in my ticket right there.
Guys, there's a BIG difference between movies and toys by Triumph poops!	Sep 5th, 2006 05:12:15 PM
Merrick pondered at one point in his articlle how something with so many parts would actually transform...as if it wouldn't look right. But, come on, let's be real here. There's a HELLUVA lot of difference between what you'd like to see in motion/action on a giant ass movie screen VERSUS a toy that's sitting on the store shelf which has to be practical in terms of manufacturing and sales costs and even safety issues towards the eventual buyer (ie. the kids who'll be playing with it). I love what I've seen so far. As someone else noted, so far these movie Transformers look totally badass and great. WAY better than I had even hoped. As to how they'll actually transform, onscreen they'll transform a helluva lot more realistically to the average viewer. And that's because, bottom line, people mentially know a truck or certainly a jet plane or anything of that nature simply has a HELLUVA lot of moving parts or components to it. So the average moviegoer is going to expect the Transformers robots to have a ton of things sticking off them or whatnot. As for how the toys will be, naturally they'll be trimmed down versions for practicality sake. They'll look like the movie incarnations, but obviously be way simpler due to manufacturing. But overall I think this movie LOOKS great...but I expected that from Bay and Spielberg. So here's just hoping the actual SCRIPT doesn't suck ass as much as I've heard rumors of. Otherwise, I think this will be a fun flick and I'm betting neck summer a whole new generation of kids will be loving it. Come on, it's big ass robots that transform into everyday things which then transform back into cool ass robots to beat on each other's ass. So in the end, what more did you actually expect this project to be like? Speaking as someone who grew up seeing the show, so far this movie looks about what I expected it to be...hell, so far it looks BETTER than I expected it to be. I can't wait.
Fetal Alcohol Syndrome by pelos_locos	Sep 5th, 2006 05:16:26 PM
Prime face reminds me of kids with Fetal Alcohol Syndrome (look it up in WebMD), even with the mask on. Optimus Mom must have hit it hard with the beer. Some of the symptoms include small eyes, larger separation between the eyes, a flat upper face and more. The nose reminds me of the Beast from the Disney movie. Change the face. Everything else rocks.
I would of liked an omage to Prime by Phategod2	Sep 5th, 2006 05:19:07 PM
and the rest, instead we get this slander.
The eyes work for me by Turd Furgusen	Sep 5th, 2006 05:21:45 PM
The face in non-combat is a little weird. I like the eyes, they seem to emote a serious vibe as well as other emotions without some dumb-ass metal eye-brows. I am sure the concept artists toyed with that idea. No pun intended. MNG if I missed a previous post, what do you think of the eyes?
This movie was over as soon as Bay signed on. by Logo Lou	Sep 5th, 2006 05:24:58 PM
The plot and designs could look EXACTLY like the cartoon and it wouldn't matter, the man's movies suck. Sorry, I give the man no slack at all unlike Moriarty, and I won't suck his balls like Harry. As many have said, box office wise: big opening weekend (but not as big as they think), then all downhill from there...
I think it would be funny if we all went to the premier by smackfu	Sep 5th, 2006 05:27:10 PM
and the film rolled and it was just 2 hours of michael bay fucking a fat man in a transformers shirt up the ass in a room full of moneybags while laughing and slapping his ass.
nevermind by Turd Furgusen	Sep 5th, 2006 05:29:09 PM
I just read what tile_mcgillus posted and it makes sense that this is concept work. I think the eyes could still work seeing what Bumblebee looks like. I'm sure that they could make them glow yellow under certain combat conditions or environmental conditions (night vision). I have to agree with many others, you have to have a couple of scenes with OP sportn' the yellow eyes. Give us a little G1 nod, would ya?
If there is a bonus scene after the end credits roll by smackfu	Sep 5th, 2006 05:29:41 PM
It should be a closeup shot of a coke table in disarray while defocused in the background is michael bay with his back turned to us, propping himself up against he wall with one arm and vomiting into a flowerpot.
beat me to it by kahootz	Sep 5th, 2006 05:38:09 PM
Damn anyone who referenced "Pimp My Ride" before me. That was so mine.
Harry, for fuck's sake...... by CloneRangerUK	Sep 5th, 2006 05:44:09 PM
....please comment on this abortion of a movie, you have been too silent on this for too long!!!
Crap. by Lucasblows	Sep 5th, 2006 05:51:57 PM
Crap.
Looks horrible.... by GibsonUSA	Sep 5th, 2006 05:52:08 PM
What is with the bored look on Megs and Prime's faces? It looks worse up close.
hm by Dollar Bird	Sep 5th, 2006 05:53:01 PM
Didn't Cullen do the voice of Kong in "King Kong Returns"? I guess that jives with Prime's new ape face.
Gibson USA.... by CloneRangerUK	Sep 5th, 2006 05:56:40 PM
...thats the fans faces!
Can someone send Bay.... by CloneRangerUK	Sep 5th, 2006 05:58:04 PM
...down to the Great Barrier Reef to do some Seacon research???
the face cant be serious - a mouth ON the faceplate? by FuriousStyles	Sep 5th, 2006 05:58:58 PM
if these are leaks, they better start leaking something good, cos this film looks worse DAILY................forget G1 faithfulness - these just look terrible period................a Transformers film should have been easy money in the bank - but no, these geniuses know better than PROVEN HISTORY and thus, have lost me
What is it the kids say these days?... by OurManInMontr	Sep 5th, 2006 06:04:23 PM
...ah yeah: FUGLY.
Flames on Optimus = Vanilla Ice in TMNT 2 by PhantomSpazzz	Sep 5th, 2006 06:06:56 PM
Flames on Optimus = Han shoots first Flames on Optimus = green goblin outfit Flames on Optimus = NSYNC in Star Wars Flames on Optimus = gay homo love (not that there's anything wrong with that.)
Even worse up close by FookU	Sep 5th, 2006 06:08:55 PM
His face with and without the mouth plate look terrible. I thought they got the head right until I saw this and now even Optimus' head is fucked. This gets worse and worse.
They should just call this movie Voltron.... by GibsonUSA	Sep 5th, 2006 06:17:56 PM
At this point nobody can tell what the f*ck it is regardless....
flames != Han shoots first by mocky_puppet	Sep 5th, 2006 06:21:52 PM
nothing equals the magnitude of awfulness delivered by "Greedo shoots first". nothing.
Man that toy is going to be sharp. by Archduke_Chocula

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