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Quint's interview with TRANSFORMERS star Shia LaBeouf!!!

first!!! by Flux_brown	Sep 4th, 2006 02:40:25 AM

at least shia seems to know ... by Flux_brown	Sep 4th, 2006 02:50:50 AM
what he's talking about....thanks quint. talbackers...transform and roll out!
I just read the script... by critch	Sep 4th, 2006 02:58:50 AM
This interview confirms that the script I read is at least story complete. I went in to it expecting...hell, I'm not sure what I was expecting. I don't hold any allegiance to the original cartoon, always thought it was a bit cheesy, and an obvious toy commercial. And I was 5 when it came on, so whatever. I guess, unless major changes are made, it's going to depend what kind of fan you are. If you are into the mythology and the history and the canon of the shows and everything, you're going to hate it. Other than Decepticons bad, Autobots good, and the search for the ultimate power source, nothing's the same. As just a straight action movie, it's entertaining enough. It reads somewhat like Independence Day meets E.T., with major parts seemingly lifted from both movies. After finishing it, I realized something. Just about the entire plot and events boils down to a bigger remake of "Small Soldiers". Same plot with the kid who we spend WAY too much time with, after a girl whose part seemingly was written for Kirstin Dunst. The good guys are rather stupid, very caring about humanity and such, where as the bad guys are just plain evil. Most of the decepticons don't speak till the end, and even then it's heavy power-rangers style dialouge. SPOILERS FOR THE END FOLLOW. I didn't like how Megatron was dispatched. The kid does it, not Optimus or any other autobot. And it's just like Small Soldiers. The only reason that it seems to be done is to set up the sequel, as the events strand the Autobots on Earth, with a nice "We found a new home!" ending. Kind of comic-book-origin story quality to it, as Megatron's body is disposed of safely offscreen. There's more. Main characters have little-to-nothing to do, and no resolution to their storylines. Optimus is portrayed as a bit of a pussy who orders the Autobots to not harm humans. Even the bad humans who just messed up Bumblebee, and kidnapped him. And then he has guilt. That's right. In this movie, Optimus 'roll out' Prime is a pussy. And he never says Roll out, except in a subtitle from alien language. There's still more. There are at least three clumsy lines saying "More than meets the eye." They download the internet. A single virus wipes out all communication on Earth. Bumblebee can only communicate by playing the radio, which does have some funny bits, but gets old quickly, and then he has a cliched crappy line that he chokes out during the last battle. There is good though. The battle scenes, particularily the last one which is a battle royale between all autobots and decepticons, (Including Soundwave, who I think has since been written out.) seem to be incredibly kickass. There's just not enough of them. And many focus on the humans instead of Autobot on Decepticon action. Michael Bay's direction seems to fit this script well, and hopefully will make it worth watching. Scriptwise, though, it's a cliched, seen-it-all-before type movie that's geared to the average 14 year old. If major changes aren't made, which judging by the set reports they haven't, it'll come out, do decent, end up about 150mil, enough to have a sequel. Not gonna be a huge blockbuster though, since their market disappears about a week and a half after when the new Harry Potter comes out. But won't the geeks support it, the transformer fans? No. They won't. This movie, like Godzilla before it, is NOT the transformers we grew up with. It's something...else, something different, as someone said before, it's a Michael Bay Giant Robot movie. Just with some familiar logos and voices. The geek market is good for about 30-40 million, as we've seen with Snakes on a Plane, Serenity, Sky Captain, and Star Trek: Nemesis. After that, they download, wait for dvd, or just stay home. This, essentially, is a see it and forget it movie.
Wow! by Fugazi32	Sep 4th, 2006 03:01:06 AM
I'm 2nd!
FUGAZI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ! by messi	Sep 4th, 2006 03:17:08 AM
YES! Your name is FUGAZI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1 2 3 Repeater
where are my fellow comrades? by messi	Sep 4th, 2006 03:18:58 AM
phategod, lostprophet, tile, thenedain, revsick, kneon. The script remains. The crap with the soldier wanting to get home to a baby girl he ain't never seen. Shit.
Critch by messi	Sep 4th, 2006 03:21:26 AM
Optimus Prime always did care about humans, like Superman. And he has had guilt, that's one Optimus thing i actually found in the script. But there isn't enough or any of his BADASS side, the unstoppable soldier.
Geek Market by messi	Sep 4th, 2006 03:25:20 AM
The other geek movies you mentioned don't compare. Serenity had NOWHERE near the fanbase Transformers had and is relatively new. SOAP was a fad that was an internet joke, it didn't have 20 years of history and a large fanbase like Transformers. Star Trek already had various films and live action adaptations, just 'another' star trek movie. Sky Captain was just a new movie. Transformers has never been done live action before, it has a HUGE fanbase, even the hardcore fanbase is decently big, but the kids that grew up with it. They all KNOW that this movie is something that could only be done now, which is the reason it will make alot of money. People have always said 'woahh wouldn't it be cool to see a Transformers movie with real people?'. That's why it's going to be decently big. But if it was a great script and had a great director, it would make even more money.
I could have been by Phategod1	Sep 4th, 2006 03:31:51 AM
Hats off to quint for the piece at the end. I tink the interview was fluffy all i know is the little Prick isn't going to be called spike and he's old enough to know what a TF is. and there is good chance Megatron won stay that piece of suckage so is it enough to make me and superninja join the Ban wagon. HELL NO but it looks a little better one thing though he mention this not being a singer movie. I almost wish it was that way we could have fun seeing the characters we know and love instead of seeing shit blowed up real good.
3rd by Phategod1	Sep 4th, 2006 03:38:04 AM

Megatron is a top secret US jet? by AGE IIX	Sep 4th, 2006 03:41:56 AM
Did I read that correctly? Megatron is a RAZOR... and a RAZOR is a never before seen TOP Secret US JET? And I'm sick and tired of AICN pimping this movie!
MB's Transformers. by RedFive	Sep 4th, 2006 03:45:43 AM
Thats exactly what this is.Its Michael Bays transformers with supped up cars,slick editing and Big ass explosions.Its not the Transformers everyone knows and loves.So just dont go see it.
gotta agree with messi by Phategod1	Sep 4th, 2006 03:46:21 AM
all those movies were failures Star Trek Nemesis failed because of the same reason the last 2 failed they seem like episodes instead movies. For TF i would settle, But, the by and by how long before Don "Aintishot" Murphy shows up and says "i own your site fartgod"
Bay is THE director of his generation?!?!? by Logo Lou	Sep 4th, 2006 03:47:13 AM
HOLY FUCK are those kids SCREWED!
Funniest Interview Of All Time by SnakesOnABicycle	Sep 4th, 2006 03:48:06 AM
Bay seems to have gotten Labeouf hooked on coke, or meth. Whatever drug he's on, because that kid seems brainwashed, on a manic level. "That beeper could change into a robot and chop my face off!" ... Yikes. If anything that inverview confirmed that Transformers may be in even worse, nuttier hands than we though. Don "Tarantino Punching Bag Murphy, I'm looking at you.
Hey messi Im right here by Phategod1	Sep 4th, 2006 03:51:50 AM
My "Brother united under the dynasty of the primes"
lol I Forgot To Mention... "Bay is a family man" by SnakesOnABicycle	Sep 4th, 2006 03:53:00 AM
was another great line outta Shaia's mouth, inbetween popping pills. I know most family men love their dogs... and date porn stars, and do massive amounts of coke, and call in the military for air strikes, and yell "Fuck you, you piece of shit, you're my slave and I have enough money to keep you here all day!" Fucking WOW.
Yeah, that Yogi Bear is the shit I'm into! by Boba Fat	Sep 4th, 2006 03:57:45 AM

Boba Fat by SnakesOnABicycle	Sep 4th, 2006 04:03:19 AM
Another wonderful Shaia "Jr. Cokehead" Labeouf quote. I think I just like using the word cokehead. The "this is historical american folklore" and "Bay is making a political movie" and all the stuff about him thinking the printer is going to turn into a 4 ft robot and kill me is all priceless. "I feel like HERBIE THE LOVE BUG could have had a gun and nobody would have questioned it, you know?" might beat them all however.
So bay thought Indiana Jones was going to be by Phategod1	Sep 4th, 2006 04:04:23 AM
a Piece of shit. Says alot about his perspective.
It's always Yogi that's the shit, never Boo-Boo by Boba Fat	Sep 4th, 2006 04:06:47 AM

Not Blindly Devoted to G1 by Playhouse	Sep 4th, 2006 04:07:32 AM
Nice writeup at the end, Quint. And certainly no one is going to fault you for being G1 or not g1 enough. I think that is what keeps getting lost in the hubbub. We are fans. We want the property to work. We want it based on G1 because that had the most grist of the story of Transformers to work with. G1 is the true framework of entire franchise. It's not a matter of completely copying what G1 was but using it as a strong reference. That's what seems to be lacking. G1 to me defined what these characters are supposed to be like. I don't mean look. I mean character, personality, interaction. Certainly look was reflective of these traits and that's what seems to be missing. I have no problem with Ratchet being a Fire & Rescue Hummer aide vehicle. I have no problem with Ironhide being a black (instead of red) oversized pickup instead of a minivan. I actually don't even have a problem with Jazz being the small sports car (though he certainly doesn't seem flashy enough). The problems I have are that the muddled color scheme and flame job on Prime go against the stoic, reserved nature of the character. Bumblebee being larger in stature than Jazz and acting like a puppydog go against the scrappy underdog quality of the character. Starscream looking like a lowbrow hulking brute instead of a sleek conniving intellectual (who nevertheless was outsmarted quite often) goes against the character. Again, what I think gets lost in all of this mess - especially all the going back and forth with His Highness of Crap Murphy - isn't that we want this carbon copy devotion to G1. But G1 should've been the basis and the skeleton upon which to build. That's what's been neglected. It's not blindly being devoted to G1 and not allowing or accepting anything else. But it is recognizing and respecting its importance. There. The same argument reiterated again.
I'm Downloading this movie! by AGE IIX	Sep 4th, 2006 04:16:16 AM
No way in hell are they going to make money of me.
We may not be blindly devoted to G1 by Phategod1	Sep 4th, 2006 04:16:39 AM
But bay is Blindly devoted to blowing shit up I got to call it a night but bay is determined to make this a movie about "a boy and his first car" and blowing up as much shit as humanly possible instead of the most important characters right G-night.
Totally Agree by Playhouse	Sep 4th, 2006 04:26:56 AM
Explosions cannot replace good characterization in a film. At least not in a good film. Too often, this is thought to be the case. A lot of forgettable films are made on the thought that they just want to thrill the audience with a bunch of action. Nevermind that it quite often is stuff we have seen before. Action used to be exciting in films. Now's it's become so de riguer that you get pretty much numb to it. My point is the filmmakers seem to have all their bristles up under this idea that we want everything to be exactly as it was in 1984. The reality is we want a movie that is faithful to the characters and relationships established in 1984 that includes some good action as well. But the whole attitude seems to be "who gives a shit about these robots. They're fighting each other and blowing shit up good!" And when we call them on that, it gets painted all over the place to look like we can't get our heads out of our 1984 asses.
what a pointless interview by Lost Prophet	Sep 4th, 2006 04:34:09 AM
a complete waste of time. Although Quint's attempted hedging of his opinion at the end was amusing.
also, you little fool, and Brookmyre's theory on action by Lost Prophet	Sep 4th, 2006 04:44:04 AM
Leave the bolivian marching powder alone and go and watch Reservoir Dogs again. You know the end? How does Mr. Orange die? Bullet in the head? fired by one of those child friendly guns? you utter idiot. Guns are dangerous in a film, if handled properly. It's all about the Bullet Deadliness Quotient. At one end of the scale there are John Woo films- millions of rounds fired and all that gets killed is glass (low BDQ). At the other end is the likes of Battle Royale- not a lot of gunfire, so when a weapon is drawn you know that someone will die (High BDQ) both are fine, but a bad film is one with low BDQ for most of it with a HIgh BDQ ending. It simply breaks it's own rules. Do you know the king of these? Bad Boys, directed by Michael Bay. For the first 95% of the film their are thousands of shots with about 3 deaths and then at the end Will Smith is able to shoot the french guy in the leg from 100 yards. This is why he is shit, he has no care for continuity and no respect for his material. Which is why Pearl Harbour stank, and why TF will stink.
Big fuckin' robots by The hoff	Sep 4th, 2006 04:59:22 AM
I have to say i really wasn't looking forward to this movie based on early reports / pictures. Having been a transformers fan from year dot but not having gotten into any of the new transformers stuff or bothered to read any G1 comics (i'm 26 for christ sakes my geekiness extends only so far) i do still get quite geeky about the origional transformers line (particularly iconic TF's like optimus prime, jazz, bumblebee etc) and so hearing about all the changes made to the origional transformers and given that this will not be the transformers of my youth i really had two options. I could either get pissed that my childhood memories were being pissed on or i could just ignore the fact that this is a transformers movie and just enjoy it as a giant robot movie. Look at it like this, if you heard that michael bay was making a movie with giant kick ass robots that blow loads of shit up you'd be pretty psyched to see that movie and thats what i'm going to see, not a transformers movie - a michael bay giant robot movie where lots of shit gets blown up.
Michael Bay... Family Man. On The Way To The Set by SnakesOnABicycle	Sep 4th, 2006 05:04:11 AM
"Honey, did you make sure to bring my extra big stash of coke? Not the little 50 gram stash, but the one that looks like the life-sized replica of Frosty The Snowman... You didn't!? What the hell do I pay you to be with me then for you stupid WHORE!!! I'm sorry baby, I just need something to relax me before I make things go BOOM! today. Oh, what's that? You do have some? Well take it out, slut... What am I supposed to sniff it on? ... What do you think you stupid piece of shit!? I didn't pay 10,000 a piece for those tits to have them star in Tittyfuckers 4 and 5 just look at em! Now hold the wheel still while I take my medicine off your overly tanned chest. SNIFF SNIFF Ah, thanks baby, that hit the spot... What the hell is that noise? Is that the cops!? I hear sirens! Fuck I love being paranoid! Oh.... it's just Junior, in the backseat. Hey Donny, how's my good wittle boy? Donny go poo poo in his seat? Aww fuck, Don took a shit in his car seat. I told you not to feed him all those peanut butter and jelly sandwiches! Oh wait, that's not shit I smell, we're just finally at the set.
that interview only confirm my worst fears by FuriousStyles	Sep 4th, 2006 05:23:28 AM
that the script is intact, and again, that the people making this films are not fans at all (despite their claims)........none of these guys, cast and producers/director alike have a clue what made Transformers G1 work (and lets admit it - only G1 worked).............most offensive :::::: You know, I asked him if was going to use that synthesized '80s shit and he's like, "What're you crazy? Never!":::::::::wtf - the Vince Dicola soundtrack was great - huge epic and perfect for far end sci-fi, it was only the Lion/Stan Bush/Weird Al songs that have weathered badly since the 80s...........and worst of all - it gives me no hope for the TF theme, transforming sound or G1 soundtracks that are still awesome and memorable today..........theres so many qoutes I could pick apart, but instead I'll say this .........the worst is when someone claims to be a G1 Transformers fan, and then contradicts it a sentence later calling parts of it shit, or claiming that they know better than proven history...........the WRONG people are making this film............I've had enough - all I keep seeing is trash - I want to see those 'nods to the fans' that I keep hearing about - where are they - Cullen is not enough!
Crap by photoboy	Sep 4th, 2006 05:31:49 AM
"If people are still wondering why I'm optimistic about this project ... They're all something I've wanted to see on the big screen since I was a child." Yeah, Quint I've wanted to see a live action Transformers movie since a child as well. It's a shame that Bay isn't making one... How much are they paying AICN to not totally eviscerate this pile of shit?
Bay = Bad by mattyholmes	Sep 4th, 2006 05:37:50 AM
Enough said really. www.obsessedwithfilm.com
Critch by Giant Ape Balls	Sep 4th, 2006 05:41:47 AM
Exactly what I thought when I read it. This is Toy Soldiers done on a larger scale. Optimus is Archer. I enjoyed Toy Soldiers but thats what it was. Toy Soldiers. This is something very different and the same theme doesn't really work as well. I was never ther biggest fan of the TV series as they were a little daft but I loved the comic. Anyone remember Deathshead the bounty hunter? Loved it!!
Looks like that leaked script is the one being filmed by One Voice	Sep 4th, 2006 06:27:12 AM
Such a pity.
I agree by talbuckin	Sep 4th, 2006 06:29:02 AM
Bay is not Kubrick.
STOP SAYING 'MODERNIZE' WTF DOES THAT MEAN? by jabberwookie	Sep 4th, 2006 06:39:47 AM
MODERNIZE???? MODERNIZE??? THIS FUCKTARD, AND DUHAMEL BOTH SAID THE EXCEPT SAME WORD 'MODERNIZE'... SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME HOW THEY ARE FUCKING 'MODERNIZING' THE TRANSFORMERS BY MAKING MEGATRON'S FACE LOOK LIKE A VAGINA, CHANGING TRANSFORMERS VEHICLES, MAKING UP TRANSFORMERS, AND ADDING FLAMES THAT LOOK LIKE they're from the 80's... THAT'S MODERNIZING??!?!?! ... I hate it when people use 'modernize' as an explanation for design changes... modernize isn't a fucking explainable concept. For example, NIPPLES ON BATMAN = MODERNIZING BATMAN?
"the whole movie is a trailer" hahahaha! by Horseflesh	Sep 4th, 2006 06:52:12 AM
This movie is UNSAVABLE. Period. Has anyone been fucking keeping up?? NOTHING will prevent this movie from being a shallow piece of shit. Bay, Don Murphy, JarJar Bumblebee, magic glasses - this movie is going to suck and the proof is out there. It's impossible to be wrong at this point.
"Even those who are completely against this film..." by Horseflesh	Sep 4th, 2006 07:22:16 AM
"...would dig on what I'm trying to arrange." Is it a different film? I can't imagine ANYTHING turning my opinion around about this crapfest. Is Dane Cook being publically executed at the end? That would do it. Something good has to come out of this.
no, by Lost Prophet	Sep 4th, 2006 07:36:35 AM
Don Murphy is being ground into powder and mixed with Bay's coke. I would be for that.
Damn you Michael Bay! by MCMLXXVI	Sep 4th, 2006 07:39:48 AM

Flames on Optimus = Nipples on Batman by MCMLXXVI	Sep 4th, 2006 07:41:00 AM

"Too much focus on character in action films." by blackwood	Sep 4th, 2006 07:54:51 AM
Bitch, please.
Just Change MEGATRON's face and pose him like the OG by BRUTICUS	Sep 4th, 2006 08:15:57 AM
thats all
"It's really about a boy getting his first car." by McGsStepson	Sep 4th, 2006 08:28:06 AM
No its not. The movie is called fucking TRANSFORMERS. It should be about ROBOTS. BIG FUCKING ROBOTS.
"Megatron needed that crutch." by McGsStepson	Sep 4th, 2006 08:31:28 AM
That was the point of Megatron. He did turn into a gun and his subordinates had to pull the trigger but this did not make him less powerful. As a kid, to me, this made him more powerful as he was so bad-ass and his subordinates were such his bitches that they knew that they better fucking fire him or there would be major fucking consequences. Damn these guys don't get the fucking Transformers.
Another classic quote: by McGsStepson	Sep 4th, 2006 08:33:19 AM
"It's not as though he's saying, "Fuck you! You're a piece of shit! This that, this that!..." which he does say sometimes, but it's not taken like, "Oh, he just fuckin' embarrassed me." It's like... "You know what? He's right..."
I have to agree with Quint... by NubtheSquirrel	Sep 4th, 2006 08:34:24 AM
This is shaping up to be a solid flick. It might now be the movie that all Transformers geeks are looking forward to but I hope you all learned your lesson from Star Wars. Episode 1 sucked ass. But everyone put it on a pedestal do tall that when the bitter reality that the prequel trilogy was just pure ass hit us, it was too late because we had all already seen Episode 1. If anything next summer, we will get to see giant fucking robots throw down in Los Angeles and that will be enough for me. The movie can completely suck but I won't care because it will have giant fucking robots throwing down.
No Vince Dicola? by Optimus Murphy	Sep 4th, 2006 08:40:22 AM
Hey, that's really ok, because they'll probably use the intro to "Shake Your Tailfeather" every ten minutes or so.
Interviews Suck! by BigBadBeeatch	Sep 4th, 2006 08:42:43 AM
Due to the copious amounts of ego massaging that goes on in them. So much fucking bullshit! LaBeouf's agent must of been whispering in his ear to give Micheal Bay head once a day!!! All this "his visual eye is unparalleled" bullshit! FUUUUCK OFFFFFFF!!! unparalleled until he's onto his next flick's interview and has to send out the same old bullshit about that movie's director!
problems with this interview: by Lost Prophet	Sep 4th, 2006 09:05:09 AM
1) It's not the fact that megatron is a jet. He is a fucking Alien Jet. What sort of disguise is that? BTW I couldn't give less of a toss if it is some super hi-tech nobody's seen before loaned by the airforce jet. That is not the point. 2) Having just said that Hasbro couldn't sell guns (because they would have to put a yellow cap on it) to kids, the tosser then says guns aren't threatening. 3) He is an actor. Who finds it "very hard to imagine shit". Or as we call it: act. 4) This is the most time Bay has spent with actors. Yet he can't raise a response from Megan Fox without blowing things up. 5)"It's a coming of age story". Well, if so, it shouldn't be, and the fact that they think it is pretty much craps on the Woo hoo GIANT ROBOTS FIGHTING line that has been used to defend it. 6)"I mean, he walked onto a set with a 19 year old, 20 year old actor... We'd never met each other before and we've done minimal rehearsals and then we're on set and he's granting me power to have creative control." oh my god, do I really need to comment on this. 7)"He doesn't need an AD, he'll be the asshole." He certainly will. 8)He has the cheek to pick up a geek property and describe Batman(!) as "fruity". I can do this almost forever, but it's geting a bit dull. Even if I knew nothing else about it this interview would have convinced me it will be a disaster. I think Quint did a subtle hatchet job on that kid- he gave him just enough rope to hang himself.
Transformers movie my ass. >3 by Peanutchan	Sep 4th, 2006 09:15:38 AM
Hey Bay. If you wanted to 'modernize' a movie with giant robots blowing shit up. Why don't you go screw up 'Target Earth'! Hell, that movie was made in the fifties so I don't think anyone would mind. Instead of fucking with something that already works. And Shea, your cute and all but I've seen your interviews from your other movies and you kinda sound like a broken record. Sorry.
I wonder if... by Captain RawBeard	Sep 4th, 2006 09:33:26 AM
... BL Wiseass will be on here telling everyone to suck a dick in his childish manner - just becuase we may share a different view to him? Me I'm with you on this one - there are things I dont agree with like how megatron looks - but I like the new look Optimus (and I lke the flames) and no amount of insults or childish morons are going to change my mind on this.
What a POTTY MOUTH! by dead youngling	Sep 4th, 2006 09:43:57 AM
someone needs their mouth washed out with soap.
Neverending... by alienindisguise	Sep 4th, 2006 09:48:31 AM
To me, the term "modernize" means totally piss on the source material and make it appeal to this generation of stupid kids...plain and simple. I guess Shia got paid a little extra to swing off of Bay's nuts in that interview. Bay is the Uwe Boll for the U.S...there will probably never be a director as fucking awful as Bay. Lucas comes close but at least he knows how to set a camera on a tripod once in a while.
Well, I'm sold by NYSCO6390	Sep 4th, 2006 10:05:13 AM
Buy it from the chinese folks outside the pathmark, tell everyone I know that this isn't a real transformers movie, just a Bay-blows-shit-up flick, and hope that this movie flops so bad that Bay can only try to blame it on Transformers not being a big draw franchise.
Designs aside, the movie still sucks. by McGsStepson	Sep 4th, 2006 10:11:36 AM
Ask anyone who has read the screenplay. The first 45 pages are literally an episode of WONDERBUG complete with Bernie Mac getting tossed on his ass by bumblebee opening up the car door and Bumblebee playing thematically appropriate songs on his radio for Spike/Sam and Mikaela.
I'm glad he's in this.. by Cotton McKnight	Sep 4th, 2006 10:20:32 AM
He always adds a certain amount of absurdity in movies that I really like. I thought he made I, Robot a fun movie.
I know! by Lost Prophet	Sep 4th, 2006 10:22:54 AM
that is so unbelievably bad. I have just thought of a new campaign for it (seeing as abusing the fans and modernising the robots isn't working): "Transformers: The heartbreaking true story of one boy's unrequited love for his robot". It'll get the chicks in. Just like Singerman's comic book chick flick did.
Definately Next years Superman Returns by messi	Sep 4th, 2006 10:30:29 AM
But it could of been next years other Spiderman.
Morning boys... by Flux_brown	Sep 4th, 2006 10:30:48 AM
hey, are we moving here? or are we staying wit the megatron thread?
Interview only proves the script I read... by NopeNotCool	Sep 4th, 2006 10:34:01 AM
...was the real one. Oh my God! If Michael Bay is the present generation's director/voice---- Ouch. I'm in my mid-thirties. I found the comics first in '84--- the cartoon came for me later. G1, as far as I'm concerned, is the ONLY Transformer story worth telling--- and this isn't it. Who could screw up a sure thing? Michael Bay. Who shouldn't be anywhere near a movie that needs actual actors acting? Michael Bay. This is going to be another Island--- I'm guessing it'll maybe crack 100 mil--- but no legs and definitely nothing iconic that real fans will want to remember. Remember when movies actually hd substance? That's what the G1 story should have been. Yes, there's action--- there's also emotion and characters. Bay only knows BOOM. That's the sound of a bomb.
Megatron IS a gun. by Peanutchan	Sep 4th, 2006 10:34:18 AM
Megatron is in all respects a personification of evil. I might just be getting a little philisophical here but being a gun isn't say that he needs a crutch. It says 'Hey! I'm a symbal of war, death, and destruction!" Does it really matter if someone else has to pull the trigger?
Shia is quite a teenager by Terry_1978	Sep 4th, 2006 10:36:10 AM
I mean that seriously, just by the way he talks. If it is on the up and up, at least he does know what people are saying about the movie, complaints and all.
"...so you've got to amp it up a little bit. by RaveX	Sep 4th, 2006 10:39:43 AM
And Michael Bay is the dude to amp everything up!"? Die in fire...
that pisses me off terry by Lost Prophet	Sep 4th, 2006 10:40:13 AM
that means that they are listening and don't give a fuck. He is a little helmet, and that was the most incoherent self contradicting, laudatory (It would at least have been honest if he had said Bay's a cunt), downright dishonest, over prepared, interview I have seen in a long time. And I actually like the Optimus design, I just can not believe that a film about Robots in disguise is featuring an alien spaceship. It defies belief, it really does.
at least he knows more... by Flux_brown	Sep 4th, 2006 10:43:50 AM
about the transformers than tad hamilton! that interview still pisses me off!
the bit that really gets me is: by Lost Prophet	Sep 4th, 2006 10:45:38 AM
"I mean, he walked onto a set with a 19 year old, 20 year old actor... We'd never met each other before and we've done minimal rehearsals and then we're on set and he's granting me power to have creative control." That is un-fucking-believable.
The Ark anyone? by NopeNotCool	Sep 4th, 2006 10:46:20 AM
In their in-depth research did the writers/producers/director ever hear of a little ship called the Ark? Tried to clear a path through an asteroid field for this planet called Cybertron? Carried these noble warriors named Autobots? Decepticons used the mission to plan a sneak attack but that made this Ark ship crash land on this strange alien planet, Earth, millions of years ago?... Now wouldn't that make for a more interesting 30-40 minutes of film instead of a Herbie Love Bug meets Independance Day? How hard was this????? Makes me sad.
oh I guarantee there will be something stupid.... by Cotton McKnight	Sep 4th, 2006 10:47:52 AM
like someone (maybe Shia Lebeuf) trying to make an autobot dance to hip hop. I don't know if anyone has reported this but I would bet anything it will happen.
doncha just want to punch that kid in the friggin face? by chickychow	Sep 4th, 2006 10:47:57 AM
Look at him. Just one shot, man, just one clenched fist is all it would take to break that face in two.
Making it modern or making it suck? (TY Wikipedia) by tile_mcgillus	Sep 4th, 2006 10:53:01 AM
Modernism: is a term which covers a variety of political, cultural and artistic movements rooted in the changes in Western society at the end of the 19th century and beginning of the 20th century. Broadly, modernism describes a series of progressive cultural movements in art and architecture, music, literature and the applied arts which emerged in the decades before 1914. Embracing change and the present, modernism encompasses the works of artists, thinkers, writers and designers who rebelled against late 19th century academic and historicist traditions, and confronted the new economic, social and political aspects of the emerging modern world. In the search for continual improvement that characterizes modernism, individual modern movements often disclaim the authenticity of other modern movements over issues such as the relative importance of objectivity and subjectivity, simplicity versus complexity, high versus low and other perceived dichotomies. The reconciliation of apparent opposites has then given rise to additional modernist forms. Modern art: is a general term used for most of the artistic production from the late 19th century until approximately the 1970s. (Recent art production is more often called Contemporary art or Postmodern art). Modern art refers to the then new approach to art where it was no longer important to represent a subject realistically
g1 by tranpkp1	Sep 4th, 2006 10:54:40 AM
WHY do you goto the lengths of acquire the intellecual rights to shit and then dont' make them like the originals? Miami Vice. Transformers G1. I agree I like Bay films, they're fun for me, but he should have made GoBots then to fuck w/ my G1 Transformers!
Creative control for Shia by Peanutchan	Sep 4th, 2006 10:55:15 AM
Uhh.. yeah. That to me isn't a good thing. "...granting me power to have creative control" says that Bay doesn't care what your doing. Just wait till one of those pyrotechnics goes off to close to you because Bay doesn't really give a damn where you are. I really don't want to hear that you got your head cut off by a piece of shrapnel. Does your mother know about this?
$5 says the thing he's trying to arrange by slder78	Sep 4th, 2006 10:58:01 AM
that even the fans will want to see is an interview with Peter Cullen.
the more I look at that interview the more cross I get by Lost Prophet	Sep 4th, 2006 11:00:21 AM
and it has nothing to do with the designs. It has everything to do with mediocrity/ ineptitude being passed off as quality. There is an actor who finds it very hard to "imagine shit" (act) in a lead role being directed by a complete tool that has never managed to raise a performance worthy of the name from some far more talented. BTW does anyone know if this little turd went to "acting class" it may have helped.
I'll say it again... by NopeNotCool	Sep 4th, 2006 11:00:36 AM
Look at the Dreamwave comics from '02--- there's a script that could have easily been made that honours G1 and at the same time "MODERNIZES" the characters. How hard would it have been? So so sad.
nopenot cool... by Flux_brown	Sep 4th, 2006 11:11:53 AM
my thoughts exactly....i wonder what quints big surprise is?
REMEMBER THE AUTOBOTS!!!! by Peanutchan	Sep 4th, 2006 11:17:17 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =FwyckN2qUX4&NR
WTF??? Sam??? Why isn't he SPIKE??? by R.C. the "Wise"	Sep 4th, 2006 11:22:07 AM
F*ck this film! I hope the writers get their asses kicked by some psycho Transformers fan.
No Desanto by Aintitshot	Sep 4th, 2006 11:22:49 AM
where is the interview with Desanto? I say he owns this site
In an interesting coincidence.... by McGsStepson	Sep 4th, 2006 11:24:05 AM
Just was reading on Wikipedia that Frank Welker provided the voice of Sid and Marty Kroft's "Schlepcar" aka Wonderbug which is a far more accurate inspiration for the first half of the current screenplay for Transformers. Well I guess either way this means Welker should be in the movie.
The perfect thing for this movie by NYSCO6390	Sep 4th, 2006 11:35:27 AM
would be for Welker to refuse to do this, and for Cullen to quit because he know the original Optimus Prime character and that this is nothing like ANY of the real Prime's.
If anyone wants to slap around Aintitshot in public... by Horseflesh	Sep 4th, 2006 11:42:05 AM
The going price is $450.
Hehehe... by Peanutchan	Sep 4th, 2006 11:43:34 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =2OhIqYWRkiA&NR
"oooooo, it's not really a transformers movie by misnomer	Sep 4th, 2006 11:44:21 AM
..just a movie about robots blowing shit up! I'd love to see a bay movie with robots....count me in" poor fuckers...it's nice that some of you are being open-minded about this, but let's face it- I know nothing about TF, was born in 83, so it's a little bit before my time, and even I can tell you're all getting fucked. Face it-this movie isn't for you, it's a cash in-the recycling of a premise - robots that transform- and that's it. I'm just glad theyre being faithful to spidey and the tmnt....
is that porn again pchan? by Lost Prophet	Sep 4th, 2006 11:45:40 AM
and I am gutted that I live in Britain so can't stump up the money. Can we hit him with a stick?
Yeah I loved that bit about Shia and creative control by McGsStepson	Sep 4th, 2006 11:46:46 AM
"We'd never met each other before and we've done minimal rehearsals and then we're on set and he's granting me power to have creative control." It is even funner when, according to Don Murphy, Michael Bay really put Cullen through the paces and made him work and tested him repeatedly to make sure he was "right" for the part.
PCHAN DOES NOT VIEW PORN!!! >3 by Peanutchan	Sep 4th, 2006 11:50:30 AM
The military here knows when you are and you can be arrested for it. Even in your own home if you live on the base. So no its not porn.
so is it safe for work then? by Lost Prophet	Sep 4th, 2006 11:53:45 AM
bloody hell, don't get tetchy.
Lost Prophet by Peanutchan	Sep 4th, 2006 11:58:17 AM
Yeah its safe. Didn't mean to get tetchy... The title is said with sarcasm. See the >3< face. Thats kinda hard to get that point across on the internet though...
so you do look at porn then by Lost Prophet	Sep 4th, 2006 11:59:20 AM
naughty girl.
Porn? Me? by Peanutchan	Sep 4th, 2006 12:05:15 PM
NUUU!! I swear. Pssh... I don't even have a credit card. However, if you happen to go to Montana and check out the Anime section stay away from the RED tapes. Thats all I'm saying. Dudes should have watched those videos before putting them right next to the pokemon movies. Some little 8 year olds probably traumatised.
final thought for tonight by Lost Prophet	Sep 4th, 2006 12:13:06 PM
There is still no redeeming quality to this hackiness. I hope it is a bomb large enough to destroy several careers.
by Peanutchan	Sep 4th, 2006 12:14:57 PM
Hopefully not Cullen's.
Quint's "Final bit of Transformers coolness." by McGsStepson	Sep 4th, 2006 12:17:03 PM
Paramoutn/Dreamworks is shutting down the production, auctioning off all of the props, costumes, sets, etc... for charity as a tax write-off, and dumping the existing film into the Pacific Ocean. They will begin a new Tranformers film in 2-5 years. As Quint said, "It involves the one thing every TRANSFORMERS fan can agree on."
"Too much character in action films" by TakeItEasyMon	Sep 4th, 2006 12:19:11 PM
Please. That's what makes classic action films, the great characterization. That's why we love "lethal weapon" and "Die hard" and can't remember 80% of the action movies that have explosions and fighting but horrible scripts and characters. Oh, and did it seem to anyone else like Shia had just taken 3 horse lines of coke before the interview or what?
shutting down the production by Peanutchan	Sep 4th, 2006 12:21:40 PM
and resart in 2-5 years... if only...
Anyone who starts their acting career... by Forestal	Sep 4th, 2006 12:23:16 PM
on the "Disney Channel" shouldn't be cast in any movie.
Paramount read the official transformers board by messi	Sep 4th, 2006 12:24:53 PM
There are a TON of apologists in there. register on that site, link this thread and the megatron thread, and show them that people are FUCKING PISSED OFF.
Final bit of coolness is interview with Peter Cullen by messi	Sep 4th, 2006 12:28:09 PM
wait for it.
This here is cooler by NYSCO6390	Sep 4th, 2006 12:29:26 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =K9q2zjSpH10 Just some fan doing the "Let's open the movie with the studio's logo" gag, and already it's better looking than what Bay's had over a year to do.
Interview rocks! by random dude	Sep 4th, 2006 12:35:03 PM
Shia seems to be a nice guy with a formed future and his own ideas, unlike 90% of people here.
Great interview Quint, fuck the purists by crayotic	Sep 4th, 2006 12:35:25 PM
who they really want is a Transformers ANIMATED movie, where things like huge size shifts don't look stupid. I actually feel a lot better about this movie knowing it's all out action, because I know when I watched Transformers back in the day it sure as shit wasn't for it's character development and heavily nuanced personalities of the robots. Let's not kid ourselves.
Another thing regarding size shifts by crayotic	Sep 4th, 2006 12:41:44 PM
Everyone here does realize that the toys didn't shrink like in the cartoons right? Noone was boycotting them. So I guess if you really wanted you could have Megatron turn into a handgun in the movie.. yeah, a 30ft tall handgun next to a ghettoblaster as big as a house.
by PeopleKillRobots	Sep 4th, 2006 12:54:36 PM
To prove that everyone in these talkbacks immediately takes a negative fanboy view, no one has pointed out that it was just stated that Megatron turns into a military jet, meaning that even if his robot mode doesn't change, his alt mode will not be the alien jet we have seen, at least not for the whole movie. To me, that is good news. I have read the script, and it needed some work, but it wasn't bad. I like 75% of the designs I have seen and can live with the rest. I am really excited about this movie, even as a G1 fan. So just quit bitching.
Non-stop action, even for a Michael Bay "actioneer"? by Vern	Sep 4th, 2006 12:56:15 PM
I am curious about this movie because it sounds like the worst thing ever. I like how he talks about how amazing it is that the government would allow Michael Bay to show a secret military jet that "even CNN" has never seen. Geez, I wonder if that means a) the US military believes so strongly in Michael Bay's unique vision for the Transformers that they are willing to risk state secrets to bring it to life or b) they are showing a fancy jet in a retarded kids movie about robots because it makes good propaganda. You decide. But if it's really the way he describes it, non-stop action with no breaks at all, I am concerned that it might kill me to watch it. I can't make heads or tails of even the most restrained Michael Bay action scenes, and I can only imagine what would happen to my mental constitution if I had to watch that bullshit non-stop for the 2 1/2 hours or however long he makes this nightmare. By the way, young man, I will forgive you for haphazardly comparing this asshole to Kubrick, but comparing this movie to DIE HARD is unforgivable.
Was it just me or did the kid talk a lot of shit? by LilOgre	Sep 4th, 2006 01:12:42 PM
Whether it was the multiple rants on Kubrick, Bryan Singer, George Lucas, Bay's previous films, etc.... Not saying its wrong just weird for an actor that wants another job. He made all kinds of weird leaps about Bay, personal philosphies, his own acting style with the Transformers (like Strasberg WTF!?! OK). He just seemed like he was on coke or dexedrine or something.
Re: the "alien jet." by LilOgre	Sep 4th, 2006 01:14:44 PM
Maybe the "alien jet" is the government jet. HMMMMMMM.
C'mon Quint! Get Don Murphy here! by W3bzpinn3r	Sep 4th, 2006 01:37:15 PM
He needs to answer for his sins. The little coward bitches 24/7 about the fans and other sites "insulting" his film and that AICN was never welcomed on the set, but here you are, talking for 45min to the lead actor. Murphy needs to get his bloated head out of his moldy-cheesy ass and come clean that he's a blow-hard with no talent and only makes suck-ass movies.
i love how they try to make Michael Bay sound... by Fearsme	Sep 4th, 2006 01:41:38 PM
....like his assholish behavior is out of a devotion to the project. "he doesn't even need an A.D., he's not afraid to be an asshole because he wants to blow people's minds" There's lots of better directors who 'blwo our minds' without being complete dicks. Bay isnt a very good director AND he's an asshole. Nice, political way to try and pass off him being a royal douche. Way to play it politically Shia
A "Razor"?! by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 4th, 2006 01:47:55 PM
Hmmm...I didn't know they were naming alien jets after classified Earth planes called "Razors". PeopleKillRobots is right, why have none of you numbnuts picked up on that? There may still be hope for some sort of improvement on Megatron. And I heard that they had changed the name of the "Energon Cube" to the "Allspark". But Shia's remarks seem to state otherwise. -- Like I've said before, I'm still interested to see what they've got up their sleeve on this. To me, the production doesn't sound any different (better or worse) than any other major action movie. Calling this a travesty before it hits the theaters is a bit premature. But if the first real bit of footage or trailer doesn't do it for me...
bay is an idiot . . by reckni	Sep 4th, 2006 02:01:33 PM
shia can't gloss over that. nice try, your movie is going to suck.
ruven76-GREAT JOB by tile_mcgillus	Sep 4th, 2006 02:24:01 PM
Thats actually really interesting. Love the addition of Skyfire and Soundwave. Absolutely love how resourceful and intelligent Soundwave is. You idea for Soundwave makes perfect sense. Too bad they didn't get a hold of you before this crappy script got put to film. Also the Megatron thing about it being a secret US jet. If those are not Megatron's final designs, I will be stoked to all get out.
Gaius - my point was by LilOgre	Sep 4th, 2006 02:30:18 PM
My point was that that the design team may be calling it an "alien jet" because it is classified at this point. So the whole "alien jet" thing is just a cover. Obviously, I'm not saying that alien civilizations are naming their planes after US military jets or that these US miliary jets would be portrayed as alien jets in a film.
Best Footage I've seen yet by Giant Ape Balls	Sep 4th, 2006 02:35:52 PM
This will ROCK!! http://tinyurl.com/jeg37
WE CAN DO BETTER! by nonsensical	Sep 4th, 2006 02:52:59 PM
So far a handful of you have responded. Those of you who have skills and experience modeling, rigging, and animating in Maya. Those of you who have skills in film making and storytelling. Those of you who are FANS of this property. We have until June of 2007. We can make a better film, even if it's a short, than this group of incompetant liars. So, I say we do. I swore I would never do this, but e-mail me. nonmausical@yahoo.com, I have produced two half hour live action films and two fifteen minute documentaries. I have also assisted on crew for many of these films. I have directed three animated short and I am currently co-directing a half hour short, and a two minute short. I have experience in many programs including Maya, and Final Cut. I can work cross platform and I enjoy what I do. If you want a REAL transformers film contact me and we will get started. Even if this is considered a "Fan film" it's still going to be better than what we will get in July 2007 from this group of assclowns. So again if you are interested in working on models, rigging, texturing, or animation, then contact me. I am at nonmausical@yahoo.com. Frankly, I'm tired of seeing the poor treatment we are getting and I know we can do better.
THis is called the Razor jet SU-47 by tile_mcgillus	Sep 4th, 2006 02:53:54 PM
http://tinyurl.com/ek4sp http://tinyurl.com/kqdxw If this Megatron it could be neat much better than what we have seen.
^^Yeah I saw that picture on Don Murphy's boards. by McGsStepson	Sep 4th, 2006 02:56:43 PM
It doesn't really matter. Who knows until we actually see it. An alien jet or US Government classified jet is still a pretty shitty disguise. Last time I checked it was the robot form of Megatron and not the jet that was the most bothersome point anyway.
No problem, LilOgre by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 4th, 2006 02:57:57 PM
I got ya. My post was directed more at everyone in general. I'm inclined to think that the "alien jet" and the "Razor" are two separate modes. I guess we'll have to wait and see. Cheers.
Who cares about the alt-form... by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 4th, 2006 03:00:09 PM
Give me the goddamn Fusion Cannon!
You Pieces of Shitesters by Lord Soth	Sep 4th, 2006 03:01:14 PM
This coke-induced Shia "RoastBeef Sandwich" Labeouf, sounds like a complete IDIOT! What the fuck is he talking about? half his interview makes no sense! The kid is 20, that means he was just POPPING his head out between his mother's legs a year before the true series ended!, give him 7-10 years to understand shit he's watching and that would of make the POP-CULTURE year he was into at 1993-1996...and he's trying to be some ambassador to the Original Tranformers? What a shitwad!
uhhh... tile... that's not a USAF design... by W3bzpinn3r	Sep 4th, 2006 03:01:24 PM
plus neither article called it a Razor.
Shia Lebeouf by brokebackcowboy	Sep 4th, 2006 03:03:24 PM
Is he related to that girl from the Cosby show? And he sucked in I:Robot. I haven't read the interview yet but just wanted to chime in first.
I got a huge size shift going on by brokebackcowboy	Sep 4th, 2006 03:05:44 PM
in my pants right now.
So... by Frankenblogger	Sep 4th, 2006 03:11:33 PM
...Transformers is being made as a big "Join The Army" propaganda piece that's going to somehow entertain AND boost recruitment? It's "political"? Labeouf is an idiot. Anyone who sings the praises of Bay HAS TO BE. I'm not even downloading this piece of shit.
Oh I forgot to post this sentence by tile_mcgillus	Sep 4th, 2006 03:16:54 PM
ACCORDING TO DON MURPHY'S MESSAGEBOARD. Kinda changes the point doesn't.
Let's transform this movie into a bomb! by Badger999	Sep 4th, 2006 04:29:10 PM
There's a lot of us who don't like the direction this movie is being handled. Let's vote on it in the only way that matters... with our wallets. Get a bootleg copy and watch it first. If you know anyone interested in seeing the movie... give them a copy of the bootleg. Let's NOT spend any more of our money on movies that are NOT what we want to see. We shouldn't pay to see a TINO movie. And if I'm wrong, and it ends up being cool (and I'd like to believe that), then go spend money on it - see it in the theater and buy the DVD. Do not obey Don Murphy, Michael Bay, Dreamworks, or anyone else in Hollywood... we, as individuals, control the money, and that is the means by which we control them. The only way they're going to stop fucking up things we enjoy is when we stop PAYING them to do it!
Badger999's got it right by NopeNotCool	Sep 4th, 2006 04:49:00 PM
When are we (the fans of the original source) going to voice our opinion in a way that's going to get Hollywood's attention? Every time a classic is MODERNIZED we just slip further and further into that artistic oblivion where source material (and those that grew up and loved it) is ignored. Enough already... Vote in the only way we can--- with our wallets. If I'm wrong I'll see it first in a bootleg copy--- if I'm right I'll make sure that none of my money or friends go to see this Michael Bay "spectacular".
"It's a coming of age story." by GornPirate	Sep 4th, 2006 04:56:11 PM
WTF?!!! It's supposed to be a "big ass robots kicking the snot out of other big ass robots story."
I'm sick of this modernized crap by NYSCO6390	Sep 4th, 2006 05:10:13 PM
Anyone ever see the Transformers: Alternators line of toys? They give many of the classic 'bots new bodies, and while Grimlock the Mustang makes no sense, Prowl the police RSX and Sunstreaker the Dodge Viper work great, and they have the original's heads and even transform somewhat similar. Hell, even the "Classics" line is pretty good, particularly Astrotrain and Starscream. Let's face it. Every time one of them says "Modernize", all they really are saying is "Make unrecognizable so that we can take credit for an original new design, when in fact we're just badly ripping off a well established 20+ year franchise".
Shudder by PwnedByStallone	Sep 4th, 2006 05:25:19 PM
"Mike is very political, but he's also very flag-waving American."
Megatron by PwnedByStallone	Sep 4th, 2006 05:31:25 PM
So it sounds like we will see two forms of Megatron if he's going to be a classified U.S. jet. I mean the design we've seen certaily doesn't look like omething the U.S. military could create. Not that I care. I'm in the "Megatron should still be a gun" camp. I agree with posters who said that he should remain a gun for the reason they stated earlier like guns being symbolic of evil. This bullshit about how we can't make him a gun because we can't have little kids running around with toy guns is exactly that. Bullshit. Last time I checked there was about a gillion other toy guns floating around the fucking world and noone's bitchign about those, eb=ven if they should be.
This movie is salvageable... by Dead Megatron	Sep 4th, 2006 06:00:12 PM
... all the indeed need to do is fix the Megatron design. I was already expecting him not to be a gun. Alein-looking jet. Sure, what the heck, why not. BUT HE NEEDS A FUSION CANNON!!! A jet with a big gun. O maybe a big thruster for orbital fligh that turns into the BFC (Big Fucking Cannon) when in robot mode. And plus, he could be a bit more humanoid too. He looks like a big insectoid ape.
Suuuuure.... by Optimus Murphy	Sep 4th, 2006 06:43:00 PM
The U.S. military is going to unveil a new super-secret jet that nobody's ever seen before in a Michael Bay abortion instead of doing it in...oh I don't know, Iran or North Korea? Right, Shia. Make sure that's actual coke that you're sniffing out of Bay's crack and not detergent, ok?
RUVEN76!!!!! by messi	Sep 4th, 2006 06:59:35 PM
please contact me at vincetripodi@hotmail.com
I know Tom Hanks and you are no Tom Hanks by flanaganagain	Sep 4th, 2006 06:59:47 PM
Just had to say that as Quint and I guess Spielberg refers to him as a young Hanks. Plus I thought this was the kid from Surface. That kid will be good someday also. Maybe he'll be the "modernized" Spiderman when Maguire retires?
Eh. Read the interview. It's run of the mill. by Orbots Commander	Sep 4th, 2006 08:02:41 PM
It's your normal publicity actor speak. Shia seems like a nice kid with a big movie career in his future. I think he should stay away from elements in this interview where he tries to sound profound when he talks about religion, war, philosophy, etc. Actors very rarely sound profound, just dumb. Shia, stick to talking about the big robots in Transformers. Also, the hype machine for this movie is in full-gear; I'm already turned off by it and Transformers isn't coming out until next Summer.
Once again.... by RevSick	Sep 4th, 2006 08:12:36 PM
I think some people are missing the point, no one is saying Megatron should be a gun. What's being said is that Megatron in robot form should resemble Megatron from the cartoons, much like Prime, in robot form, resembles prime.
I smell a Peter Cullen Interview in the future by ShawnT	Sep 4th, 2006 08:17:20 PM
I also smell a big fat Bay turd poping up next summer
Also.... by RevSick	Sep 4th, 2006 08:20:36 PM
If you read the MTV article that is a combo of set visit/interview, there's something a might fishy going on. We'll just say alot of synchronicity shall we.
"Even Stevens" was da shiznit! by aleeminator	Sep 4th, 2006 08:31:34 PM
That is all
Even Stevens was the shit... by Forestal	Sep 4th, 2006 08:44:35 PM
Meaning it was shit.
Even if this is TINO by The Only Woj	Sep 4th, 2006 08:48:41 PM
it's still going to be fun to watch, some bad designs and all. would I like a more G1 style focusing on the robots Tranformers? damn right. but why would anyone make that live action? wouldn't make sense to do. if this is as good as it gets, well I'm going to stop complaining and take it for what it is. do I think the flames are stupid if they're only there to "add detail to the midsection" of Prime. you bet, there were better ways that could have been done ... ie. no flames. they're not set out to make a bad film. it won't be an 80's era Transformers movie, but I still think it's going to be a good watch, cliches and all.
I will not buy a ticket, soundtrack, figure or dvd. by toulouse	Sep 4th, 2006 08:55:07 PM
I got your your market research right here, Piss off....................... Take your reinvention and shove it up your ass........................... ..
Actually.... by RevSick	Sep 4th, 2006 08:55:32 PM
It would make more sense to make it focus on the robots, since that is what the source material is. It doesn't make any sense to take the source material and change the focus. That would be like taking the source material of Spiderman and having it focus soley on Aunt May, wouldn't work would it?
They will probably make Cullen change Prime's voice. by GibsonUSA	Sep 4th, 2006 08:55:41 PM
All part of Bat's "re-imagining". Many of you guys immediately assumed that since Cullen was hired, we'd be hearing that iconic Prime voice blaring through the theater speakers. Don't be so quick to assume. Look what they have done so far. They treat the source material like shit. I wouldn't be surprised if Bay forced Cullen to change Prime's voice completely....maybe give Prime a Chinese accent while speaking english or something equally stupid...
"Bats" ="Bay's" in previous post. by GibsonUSA	Sep 4th, 2006 08:56:46 PM
btw I hope I didnt just give Bay any bright ideas....:-\
Big Opening Weekend numbers. by one9deuce	Sep 4th, 2006 09:27:54 PM
Huge second weekend drop-off. It will be lucky to do Superman Returns numbers. 160 million is the final B.O. prediction, and that will definitely be considered a flop.
The "Razor" aircraft by Frankenblogger	Sep 4th, 2006 09:55:12 PM
Methinks Shia hasn't a clue. I bet he's confused something. I think he was shown a Razor but wasn't paying attention. He's talking about Starscream.
Want to know how to make a definitive action film Bay? by Doc_Strange	Sep 4th, 2006 10:03:01 PM
Watch Predator. The premise was simple but we cared about each and every character in that movie. So much that it was cringe-inducing when they died horribly, even after Arnold killed the predator, I didn't want to movie to end. The characterization was perfect, the acting was perfect, but above all, the ation was perfect, even a bit overkill in some places but no one can complain that it was a bad action movie.
THIS is what I wanted to see by NYSCO6390	Sep 4th, 2006 10:03:04 PM
http://tinyurl.com/fkfer Only released in Japan but the fact that I just spent money to get the game on eBay and a mod for my PS2 should speak volumes as to how hardcore fans want their G1 Transformers.
Frankenblogger by Mr Nice Gaius	Sep 4th, 2006 10:35:49 PM
He must have meant the F-22 Raptor if he was referring to Starscream.
Doc_Strange by Shermdawg	Sep 4th, 2006 11:29:00 PM
Arnold didn't kill the Predator.
Prime with no flames! by tile_mcgillus	Sep 4th, 2006 11:55:11 PM
I went into photoshop just to see what their version of Optimus Prime looked like with no flames, all I did was remove the flames and add the Autobot symbol on his chest...I think it looks a million times better. What do you guys think.... http://tinyurl.com/gsuju
Transformers won't make $160 million..... by GibsonUSA	Sep 4th, 2006 11:55:29 PM
Batman Begins was an awesome movie with a relatively slow start...the few weeks after opening I thought there was no way it would reach $200 million....but then it had surprising legs a pulled its way to breaking that number. That's through good word of mouth and a strong franchise name. As much as us Transfans would like to believe Transformers is a huge name, it's not as big, as known, or as beloved as BATMAN. So franchise-strength wise, Transformers is beneath Batman. But whereas Batman got strong support from its fans and the community, the Transformers fans have (rightfully) completely turned on Michael Bay's Transformers movie. It's been nothing but NEGATIVE buzz for MONTHS now, and it doesnt look to stop anytime soon. It's come to the point where Transformers FANS are the ones wanting it to fail! SO if this NEGATIVE buzz runs into next year, we'll have a full year of word spreading that the TF movie will absolutely suck balls and be a disgrace. That's a powerful impact. Basically, we have a franchise who's brand strength isn't even as strong as Batman, yet whose fans have completely turned against it. And considering Batman Begins was JUST able to nail $200 million, and the strength of the competition in 2007, MICHAEL BAY'S TRANSFORMERS IS A BUST. PERIOD. $160 is a dream.
Shermdawg by Doc_Strange	Sep 5th, 2006 12:00:58 AM
Yes, Arnold or Dutch did mortally wound the predator, thus leading the predator to begin the countdown to the electromagnetic blast, whatever.
I'm not a huge Tranny fan, but... by Shermdawg	Sep 5th, 2006 12:16:46 AM
I would so pay $15 a month for a Transformers MMORPG. Imagine, the possibilities.
So Megatron is going to be prototype Military Jet? by ganymede2010	Sep 5th, 2006 12:24:59 AM
Did I read that correctly?
"Neil Gaiman is my god. " by DOGSOUP	Sep 5th, 2006 12:29:45 AM
Heh. Nice.
Juggernaut Bitch: "WTF is he doin?WTF is this shit??" by GibsonUSA	Sep 5th, 2006 12:35:22 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =NAeQoAqJUbc
tile_mcgillus THAT IS AWESOME!!! by ShawnT	Sep 5th, 2006 12:37:54 AM
Hell yeah that looks about 100 times better! I was just about to give into "the flames must make him look better or they wouldn't have done it camp" Now they can grab a spoon and eat my ass! THIS is what he should look like!!!!
Great interview by filmcans	Sep 5th, 2006 01:13:17 AM
Everybody should be as honest and forthcoming and articulate as LaBouf. Good stuff here (and I don't give a rat's ass about this movie, but I enjoyed the interview).
IN 2007, SHARE THE TRANSFORMERS BOOTLEG TORRENT! by bomardv	Sep 5th, 2006 01:14:02 AM
NO RESPECT TO FANS? NO BOX OFFICE $$!! IN 2007, DOWLOAD THE TRANSFORMERS BOOTLEG AND POST THE TORRENT LINK EVERYWHERE!! DO NOT DEFORM THE TRANSFORMERS! LET'S TRANSFORM BAY'S ARROGANCE INTO FAILURE! IN 2007, DOWLOAD THE BOOTLEG AND POST THE TORRENT LINKS OVER ALL THE BOARDS!. MICHAEL BAY: YOU HAD TO RESPECT THE FAN'S CHILDHOOD. NO RESPECT TO FANS? NO BOX OFFICE $!! COPY AND PASTE THIS MESSAGE! COPY AND PASTE THIS MESSAGE! COPY AND PASTE THIS MESSAGE!
Ugh.... by Thenedain	Sep 5th, 2006 01:15:42 AM
It gets worse and worse. The only thing I got out of that interview is that the dude likes to say "fuck" and "shit" alot. And no, the RAZOR is Starscream, not Megatron. Megatron is still an alien jet. Actually, all this only confirms that the awful script is still the active one. Quite sad. Oh, yeah, Tile, nice bit of photoshopping there! Now, all you've got to do is add the big cab windows to the chest and you'd have a nicely reimagined Prime!
IN 2007, SHARE THE TRANSFORMERS BOOTLEG TORRENT! by bomardv	Sep 5th, 2006 01:17:48 AM
NO RESPECT TO FANS? NO BOX OFFICE $$!! IN 2007, DOWLOAD THE TRANSFORMERS BOOTLEG AND POST THE TORRENT LINK EVERYWHERE!! DO NOT DEFORM THE TRANSFORMERS! LET'S TRANSFORM BAY'S ARROGANCE INTO FAILURE! IN 2007, DOWLOAD THE BOOTLEG AND POST THE TORRENT LINKS OVER ALL THE BOARDS!. MICHAEL BAY: YOU HAD TO RESPECT THE FAN'S CHILDHOOD. NO RESPECT TO FANS? NO BOX OFFICE $!! COPY AND PASTE THIS MESSAGE! COPY AND PASTE THIS MESSAGE! COPY AND PASTE THIS MESSAGE!
WE WILL DO BETTER!! by nonsensical	Sep 5th, 2006 01:22:25 AM
If you've read my other posts then you know that I was asking that any Transformers Fan who wants to participate in making a better Transformers film to e-mail me. So far, eight people have done so and the group is growing. You can still e-mail me at nonmausical@yahoo.com or you can now join us in our forum here. http://tinyurl.com/qd3gy I know we can get this done and I know we can do better. If you do too then please join us. We can and will do a better job.
Bay/Kubrick by BadMrWonka	Sep 5th, 2006 02:13:16 AM
this kid sounds like my 18 year old sister crossed with a drunk Tarantino...and I've never heard someone compare Micheal Bay to Kubrick before...that's next level idiocy right there...you know, I always felt that Larry the Cable Guy had a lot in common with Thoreau
Megatron is a Motorolla Cell Phone? by anchorite	Sep 5th, 2006 02:22:25 AM
It all makes sense now.
Ha! I really don't want to work this late. by nonsensical	Sep 5th, 2006 02:25:41 AM
This is fun looking. http://tinyurl.com/zfsn7 This is funny. http://tinyurl.com/hgvz9 I'm suer we've all seen this. http://tinyurl.com/pyaad It's nicely done and by a fan. http://tinyurl.com/qx7fb Again, fans can do a great job. http://tinyurl.com/mjkbj
I meant Sure... by nonsensical	Sep 5th, 2006 02:27:04 AM
As in I am Sure we have all seen this.
Anyone have any info on a "Razor" military jet? by anchorite	Sep 5th, 2006 02:28:32 AM
I have friends in the industry and they don't know about a military jet called a Razor. What's up?
bomardv by Doc_Strange	Sep 5th, 2006 02:39:38 AM
When this movie hits, yes by all means post the torrent links, fuck, saturate this and other sites with links. I fuckin' encourage it as the only real way to have our voices heard and to fight the system since the AICN guys are too pussy to say go balls and speak out about this shit, even after we had their backs for Xmen 3 and Fantastic Four.
My Pitch for The Transformers Movie (Part 1) by LlGHTST0RMER	Sep 5th, 2006 02:48:11 AM
(In case this looks familiar to anyone, this is a re-post of my laundry list of ideas that I had for my own script. If you've read it before, feel free to ignore me. But judging by how this project is headed, I'm feeling like maybe I had the better concept. What do you guys think?) >>I so totally wanted to make this damn movie. Unfortunately, even Michael Bay seems to have a leg-up in the industry over some never-been, no-career having bitch like me. What a world, huh? Anyway... if anyone gives a dead rat's ass (and even if you don't,) here's what I wanted to do with this movie. It opens on Cybertron, where the war between the Autobots and Decepticons is still raging, though soon to end. It's taken it's toll on the planet and on the robots from all the eons spent battling each other. The Autobots have nearly lost the war. They're fewer in numbers and not quite the fighters the Deceps are. They attempt a make-or-break ambush on Megatron, but the attack is turned around on them. Now that the Deceps have finally won the war, Megatron (who IS a tank, by the way,) declares out of "honor" for the beaten warriors that the Autobots are officially exiled from the planet. They all have to get on a ship and leave Cybertron forever. Any remaining will be killed on sight. Starscream immediately accuses Megatron of not having the courage to destroy them all now that they've lost, but M-tron tells him the plan is to get all the Autobots out of hiding and into one place (their ship) where the Deceps can kill them all in one fell swoop. So the Bots get on the Ark and take off, Megatron and his best Deceps attempt to destroy the ship, but Optimus (being the brilliant leader) has anticipated this and gets the first shot out at the attacking Deceps. The Deceps have to board the Ark to finish the job, the battle continues hand-to-hand on the ship. Prime orders the weaker Autobots to escape the ship (which is almost all of them - only about seven major Autobot characters stay to fight - I knew the script wouldn't keep every character in the movie, which I assumed correctly.) Shit gets out-of-hand, the Ark veers off-course and crash-lands on Earth (just like the original cartoon pilot.) Everybody's knocked-out and near dead (or off-line), except for StarScream, who's just knocked out but was laying low on the ship (to avoid hand-to-hand combat, 'cause he's all talk and full of shit when it comes to action.) So he's the first to come back online after the Ark crashes in Texas. (I relocated the story from Oregon. I have my reasons.) So SS is online and spends a little time researching the Earth, it's inhabitants, it's machines, it's history, it's languages (no, the robots don't speak English on Cybertron,) and he finally decides to use Teletran-1 to redesign himself and the Decepticons to his specifications. They're brought to life and he declares he's the new leader of the Decepticons because he resurrected them all, redesigned them, and he knows the planet Earth, so they all need to listen to him, because he's got plans to conquer the place seven ways to Sunday. They exit the Ark, then SS shows everyone another little change he made with his new leadership - he's had Megatron redesigned from the titanic battletank he used to be into Starscream's personal sidearm. He shouts some verbal code that triggers M-tron's transformation into the gun against his will; in effect, making Megatron his bitch, 'cause now he can only transform at SS's order, and it's into a friggin' gun. Anyway, SS uses Megatron to fire a shot at the Ark and the mountain it's stuck inside of, intending to destroy it, but instead, it reactivates Teletran-1 to continue the redesiging process SS started, rebuilding the remaining Autobots and bringing them back online. (Yeah, just like the original cartoon, again.) And since this ends the first act, and this post is getting retardedly long, I'll continue it in a second post. Stay tuned.
My Pitch, part 2. by LlGHTST0RMER	Sep 5th, 2006 02:56:53 AM
So... the second act introduces the humans, Daniel and his dad Buster (Witwicky, if you must, but it probably wouldn't have been.) Buster is a widowed mechanic. A man's man. Daniel studies computers, science & technology. He's not a tough kid, and though he loves everything electronic, he's not necessarily mechanically inclined. This frustrates the hell out of Buster, who would like his son to follow in his mechanic footsteps and stop wasting all his time with all the highfalutin computer crap. Daniel tries to pass himself off as tougher than he really is, but it never "fits" him. A nerd is a nerd, even if he does try to apply himself a rough-guy nickname... people tend to laugh when he tells them he goes by the name "Spike." So there's that. Spike and Buster - not exactly the perfect match of father and son. Meanwhile, Starscream's first act as the new Decepticon leader is to head to the Middle East to acquire as much of this planet's main source of fuel as they can. As it just so happens, there's a war going on there between the residents of a certain country (not specified, but you get the idea) and American troops. The Deceps jump in and kick the asses of the side whose land contains the oil, which only helps the American forces, so it is quickly assumed that these amazing jet/robots are here to help the good guys, meaning the US. Megatron advises Starscream that the best strategy is to befriend the larger Superpower and use their friendship to their own advantage. In no time flat, CNN, Fox News, NBC, CBS and all the other major news outlets shout the story to the world that giant, "friendly" transforming robots have come to Earth and have befriended the US, aiding our fight against the War On Terror. (Yeah - the world believes the Decepticons are the good guys.) Back in Texas, as the Autobots are being revitalized, Optimus Prime has Blaster scanning Teletran-1 for just what the hell is going on in this world. They come across the news reports about the Deceps in the Middle East, and though they can't understand the report, they see the footage of the Decepticons "helping the army" and being welcomed and Starscream speaking to the Earthlings in their own language. Prime wants to do something about it, but the Bots are all still in pretty weak shape and still being put back together, so he knows it's too late and their screwed. About this time, Daniel stumbles on to the Autobots (I won't go into how,) and uses the dictionary and encyclopedia program in his laptop to help teach them the basics of the English language. From there, Teletran-1 is able to create a patch for all the Autobots to load into their programming to speak the language. Blaster and Spike (as he introduces himself to the Autobots and they accept without any irony) hack into Spike's credit card account and raise his credit limit by several thousands of dollars so the Autobots can go fuel up (or at least buy the gas, which they can turn into Energon back at the Ark.) Along the way, Spike gets to know Bumblebee and finds out some Cybertron history. Turns out the battle between the Autobots and the Decepticons is actually something like a religious war regarding what happens to the robots when they die. See, according to Cybertron's history, when you die, your parts live on. You're reassembled into a new robot. Or rather, new robots. You get recycled so that your "soul" is honored by helping to create a new life. But somewhere along the line, some robots decided that wasn't right. When you die, you should be laid to rest or destroyed and honored by your memory. Then new Transformers would be created, then they would die, then they'd be scrapped and then the next generation would come and so on and so on. Of course, the main problem with that is that resources on any planet are finite and eventually, if resources aren't reused, you'll run out of them. So those who believe in simply building the next generation decide other planets will have to be used as building materials for tomorrow's robots. That conquering other planets is just a necessary step in the continuation of their line. The ones who believed in the traditional, reuse/reincarnation plan became the Autobots. The conquering, bury-the-dead side became the Decepticons. And because of the Deceps' proliferation throughout Cybertron, their planets' resources are almost at zero. They've almost destroyed the planet because of their beliefs. And Spike realizes immediately that they'll do the same to Earth unless they're stopped. ***** So from there on goes the second act: The Decepticons are taken for friends by the free world, Megatron (who eventually is able to undo SS's "code-command" of his transforming function, kick the shit out of SS for it, and reclaim his leadership of the Deceps) has the world convinced the Autobots are the dangerous bad guys; the Autobots have to use their disguises to survive, while Spike and a few other humans help them out the best they can to save the world from the Decepticons when the world considers the Autobots the enemies all the while; Spike takes the Autobots on as friends (and once or twice gets to cruise around in a kick-ass Porsche or Ferrari to impress girls;) Megatron uses his celebrity and the goodwill of the US (as well as a Senator with Presidential aspirations to champion M-tron's causes into legislation) in order to steal the planet's resources out from under us; and Spike and the Autobots devise ways to use reusable fuels to power the Autobots instead of the fossil fuels the Decepticons become focused on. I know it sounds all Eco-friendly and tree-huggish --which I am not-- but it's hard to deny that reusable fuel sources make sense over the common fuels we've been using for the past hundred years. And anyway, amidst all the dynamics of the Decepticons' public facade, the Autobots' non-welcome on Earth, Spike's friendship with the Autobots and his relationship with his father, there would be as many outrageous set pieces throughout the script involving battles, races, escapes, and chases (kind of like the ones Quint says Bay is planning, which I have to admit I want to see - Bay sure can blow some shit up) as could be imagined. Now at this point, I know my script ideas will never be used, but I still wish I could've been the lucky bastard who got to write the thing. And in the Sequel, I would've brought in Circuit Breaker from the comic book. Anyone remember her? She was badass. And to anyone who actually read all this shit - hey, thanks for your time.
An Open Letter To Paramount by hargon27	Sep 5th, 2006 03:12:37 AM
Paramount, why are you doing all of this damage control? Why do you really care what a few internet fans think about the colors on a truck or the look of some toy they fondly remember from 20 years ago? If the internet has taught me anything its that despite how much people whine and bitch about how much a movie is going to suck, the opening box office numbers seem to indicate they will buy a ticket anyway. Some examples: X3: $104m opening weekend, Fantastic 4: 56m opening weekend, Hulk: $62m opening weekend. Paramount, dont waste your time appeasing the fans. Its obvious they are all fucking sheep and will flock to your shitty Transformers movie in droves. Your going to make your money, and then some from anciallary properties, enough to warrant a few even shittier sequels so dont bother with the fans. P.S. The script is horrible, I dont blame Micheal Bay for giving the actors free creative control.
hargon you fuck by messi	Sep 5th, 2006 04:39:15 AM
the fans are the ones who give movies legs. the fanbase does matter. look at the drops on those movies you mentioned. Batman begins started off slow because of the stain of the previous franchise, but stayed in theatres alot longer than any of the movies you mentioned and the sequel will be huge. Fanbase does matter.
i like your script RUVEN a few suggestions by Phategod1	Sep 5th, 2006 04:39:20 AM
1. I'd suggest Incorporating the dinobots, and devistator in this version, for to make this a trilogy I think you should end it with Unicron . also how about a paint job for ratchett which could be explained by rachets pacifism and does not want to be recognized as a military vehicle, a la g.i. joes life line. also you seem to forgot to bring Jazz back to life maybe his spark could get fused to a Porche. if My memory serves me right shyfire and Starscream were friends, scientists even; how about he goes to Starscream first and joins the decepticons till finds out what there all about, and not join the autobots but become a kind of loner antihero type. Now every movie needs a stupid love story thrown in for one dumb ass reason or another how about for this one me actually make it interesting and bring in arecee and springer, kind of make it a love on the battlefield type of thing. you have to explain how the Dinobots got to earth and took on the forms of dinosaurs, we also have to introduce the constucticons . Also i dont like the decharacterization of rumble and frenzy or the super computer Idea for sound wave. I still say he should be a tape player with cassettes maybe he scans a pawn shop and boom instant tape deck soundwave. also I would love it if you could have incorporated sideswipe and sunstreaker and maybe get some real brotherly bickering between the two as the fight star scream and thundercraker. also what if there was a alternate action and story taking place on cybertron periodicaly flipping back and forth together till everything winds up at the space bridge. Also i'd like to bring spike back to spike by A. making im a mechanic, B. having other mechanics nickname him spike.
another open letter to paramount? by Lost Prophet	Sep 5th, 2006 04:59:13 AM
Sir, I am well aware that there is no pressing need for you to reveal your decision making process. I have spent a significant amount of my career working in marketing/pr departments in the media so am aware of the need to create/ manage a buzz. Yet some of the behaviour so far is a mystery to me. Therefore, I would be extremely grateful if you would expand on two issues. The first issue is that I find it surprising that your appointees are deliberately limiting your potential market. Surely, having seen recent examples of family movies with an adult theme that have been hugely successful there was a compromise that could have been reached here? The other query is: could you please clarify the stages that led to the appointment of individuals with such an appaling track record to a potentially massive franchise. Firstly, I would like you to explain how, knowing the quality of product produced, you decided to appoint your writers. Secondly, could you please explain why a man whose previous credits include mega-turkeys such as LXG is acting in a producer role. Thirdly, are you happy with novice actors being given "Creative control"? Finally, are you happy with the behaviour exhibited by these individulas? Do you think that it is a representation of your studio that you can be proud of? Do you consider it to be professional behaviour to waste time abusing fans on-line? Kind Regards,
I always thought Bay did mediocre action scenes by IndustryKiller	Sep 5th, 2006 05:10:16 AM
I'll give him The Rock and the first Bad Boys but that was a long time ago and frankly what has he done for us lately? The action scenes in his films of the past 10 years have been wholly mediocre. Quick MTV cuts and frankly uninspired set ups only look impressive in the least because he has so much god damned money to throw everything but the kitchen sink into them. He's certainly never been one to use skillful choreography. Quick cut editing is absolutely inexcusable in todays cinema, even when auteurs like Paul greengrass and Christopher Nolan use it. In fact the action in Batman Begins got WAY too many free passes. Besides that Bay doesn't have the visual eye Spielberg does. Spielberg offsets his action with color tones and a very well defined atmosphere, Bay is far too literal in that respect. what makes an action scene truly great is the set-up the movie has built for them up to that point. Die Hard is awesome because Bruce Willis's John Mclain is awesome. Even with a great script Bay has no concept of how to draw those kinds of characters with his camera, and well, Bay doesn't have a great script to even back him up with this one.
Megatron Query... by repus3000	Sep 5th, 2006 05:32:59 AM
So lemme get this straight
That`s the exact same way Jackman described S. Sommers by chien_sale	Sep 5th, 2006 06:13:07 AM
..during Van Helsing. He talked about how amazing it was, the sets, the actions. And then he turned up this piece of shit. Bay cannot direct a movie to save his life and Spielberg has to phone him on the set to say to him how to do it! The Island was complete junk. Being on the set maybe cool but the results are always mediocre.
Doc_Strange Will do. by DOGSOUP	Sep 5th, 2006 06:33:35 AM
Best idea yet. Let's pirate the FUCK out of this.
IN 2007, SHARE THE TRANSFORMERS BOOTLEG TORRENT! by bomardv	Sep 5th, 2006 10:05:17 AM
NO RESPECT TO FANS? NO BOX OFFICE $$!! IN 2007, DOWLOAD THE TRANSFORMERS BOOTLEG AND POST THE TORRENT LINK EVERYWHERE!! DO NOT DEFORM THE TRANSFORMERS! LET'S TRANSFORM BAY'S ARROGANCE INTO FAILURE! IN 2007, DOWLOAD THE BOOTLEG AND POST THE TORRENT LINKS OVER ALL THE BOARDS!. MICHAEL BAY: YOU HAD TO RESPECT THE FAN'S CHILDHOOD. NO RESPECT TO FANS? NO BOX OFFICE $!! COPY AND PASTE THIS MESSAGE! COPY AND PASTE THIS MESSAGE! COPY AND PASTE THIS MESSAGE!
Someone needs to wash Shia's mouth out with soap by googamooga	Sep 5th, 2006 10:28:26 AM
I mean shit, why so much fucking foul language?
If this interview acheived anything... by Childe Roland	Sep 5th, 2006 10:55:51 AM
...it was to cement the core demographic this movie is shooting for: edgy teens. I mean, shit! Did you fuckin' count the number of fuckin' times this bad-ass swore in that god damned interview? He's edgy as fuck! It also indicated to me that the studio is trying way too hard. From everything I've seen so far, they could've released this movie without all the pre-hype and drama and it probably would've done just fine...like in the neighborhood of Hulk numbers. And all it would've taken would've been one or two relatively open-minded fans to comment on how cool that neo-classic Optimus looks up on screen to get the doubtingest haters to check it out at matinee prices. Now they've spent so much time prescrutinizing and justifying every creative choice in the kangaroo court of public opinion that is the Internet that they don't even seem confident in their film anymore. At the very least, early on, Bay had that going for him. I'm still going to see this, but all this trying to sell the picture under the banner of patriotism and trying to elevate Bay to the status of a misunderstood genius isn't making me hopeful. They shouold really just shut up already and make the movie.
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