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Too soon by ranting_dude	Aug 30th, 2006 05:59:39 PM

Brian Bendis JUGG FUCKLED me by muscelyarm	Aug 30th, 2006 06:01:41 PM
Can't wait for Ultiamte Spidey 100
Ok, "JUGG FUCKLED" is DOA, k? Only idiots say it by chrth	Aug 30th, 2006 06:09:25 PM
Hate to be the one to break it to you, but I've been on this site too long to allow something so bland to become a catchphrase, brother!
Awesome Review, El! by Buzz Maverik	Aug 30th, 2006 06:24:32 PM
Excellent work. Dig the sense of humor, dig the 'tude! Oh, and, uh...the @$$holes are...nice people as well.
By "Nice", I Mean... by Buzz Maverik	Aug 30th, 2006 06:26:46 PM
...they have good personalities. A few of them are even employed. Does community service count as employment? I think it does, even if it is court mandated. Back to the day off.
Thanks Mr Maverick by El Vale	Aug 30th, 2006 06:32:16 PM
And thanks for all the help, it was of inmeasurable value to me one tear
Yeah, I guess you're right by muscelyarm	Aug 30th, 2006 06:38:24 PM
JUGG FUCKLED is much blander than Too Soon, or First, or Hulk Hogan as the Baddie. No, wait. You're just a dick.
muscleyarm, love your screenname! by GiggityGoo	Aug 30th, 2006 06:54:32 PM
Actually made me smile, and if you recognize my screenname then you'll know what... And it's not because I can recite all 50 states in a quarter of a second: BLAHRK!
muscelyarm, I remember my first day too by chrth	Aug 30th, 2006 06:54:57 PM
And what the hell is 'muscely'? Did you mean 'muskily'? Go get yourself a new logon before the current one sticks and you're remembered as an idiot.
Typo correction by Prof Challenger	Aug 30th, 2006 07:15:01 PM
I mentioned Mr. Miracle's costume as "Red and Green" when I meant "Red and Yellow." Sorry if it confused the baked and stoned. :)
For the record by Baytor	Aug 30th, 2006 07:17:16 PM
I like JLofA #1... just thought stuff need to be 'sploding.
Wow, what a great bunch of reviews. by dregmobile	Aug 30th, 2006 07:42:06 PM
never thought i'd actually want to try out a TRANSFORMERS title until now. i killed WONDER WOMAN after that first issue. a bit too mcg for me. 2 didn't look all that great, so i didn't bother. great in depth review on JLA 1. couldn't remember a thing about any red arrow character so thanks for the heads up. i actually thought those indian-themed virgin comics would suck until now. and i am probably about to step on board DAREDEVIL for the first time from issue 89. i was never going to even think about getting HEROES FOR HIRE until i saw the art. after reading the review for it, i'll try to track it down. and that DMZ trade, too ... oh, and great to reCOGnise vale up there for a review!
great reviews guys and Fucking A a cog guest review! by Darth Kal-El	Aug 30th, 2006 07:43:18 PM
i swear i came a little!.and vale thanks for also bringing the funny*** on the comics im really looking forward to the kravens last hunt trade. i remember not being allowed to buy the orignial issues when they came out because they looked to violent/demonic to my then adventist parents. everyone is out of the church and i is full grown so karvens last hunt here i come!
chrth by muscelyarm	Aug 30th, 2006 07:46:14 PM
You are an anonymous douche bag. I
and just IMHO by Darth Kal-El	Aug 30th, 2006 07:48:46 PM
ALL aicn catch phrases are pretty fucking dumb. all of them. if u said jugg fuckled or brother or whatever to your normal average person who doesnt read aicn they would look at u like you needed to get back on the short bus.
why no zombie comics? by kidjingo	Aug 30th, 2006 08:19:02 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =Azo8heDmNoQ
congrats... by blackthought	Aug 30th, 2006 08:45:41 PM
vale...that review would worry me though if you were 100 percent serious.
Disagree by biscuit turner	Aug 30th, 2006 09:04:00 PM
First, I'm ired of folks putting over Walking Dead based on this "how far would humanity sink?" crap. It's a narrative dead end; the only way to continue is to become more nasty, and the book is quickly transforming from exhilarating to exhausting. Kirkman's a cool concept guy, but I'm starting to question his storytelling (see the mess that was this week's Ultimate X-Men Annual #2). Second, I loved the twists and turns in USM #99, but the damn thing is called "The Clone Saga." It doesn't have much impact when you know that every one of those crazy twists can be erased in a millisecond.
DeMatteis rules by Thalya	Aug 30th, 2006 09:27:49 PM
And I liked a fair deal of his Spectre run, throw tomatoes if you will. Plus he's done a number of JLU episodes. But Mr. Grendell, I must take issue. Brad Meltzer was the one who made Calculator cool. Gail's just the one who's written him most since, throughout VU and BoP. Yet despite writing him the most, she hasn't picked up on something that Brad and even Marc Andreyko noted immediately: he's a nexus in an "old boys" network of supervillains: given his history, he's tried just about every villain type iteration and in his quiet years he apparently made the rounds in villain social circles. He knows the business inside and out, but in VU and BoP he doesn't get to show that so much because Gail has favored an over-the-top and even freakish portrayal at times. Meh.
Bravo Vale! by Thalya	Aug 30th, 2006 09:56:24 PM
Great review! Actually, a great bunch of reviews all around guys. Kudos! And yes, that means you all get chocolate-covered granola bars. The sweetbreads are all mine though, unless I get a hernia and they make a weird exit plan but let's not get into that..
Ultimate Spider-man... by tonyd1411	Aug 30th, 2006 09:57:31 PM
is so damn good right now that I can barely contain myself while reading each issue. Ever since the Warriors run it has been fantastic, and the last few issue have made me crap my pants as I read them. Bendis really does have some huge balls with the shit that he is pulling. I know they are bringing back Carnage next issue, but where the hell is Venom? That's the only thing that could make it better.
Nemesis by english	Aug 30th, 2006 10:00:05 PM
The Nemesis that is appearing in "Wonder Woman" is a different one that appeared as a back in "Brave and Bold" in the early 80's. The original died a few years ago (but I can't remember where-the Eclipso massacre maybe?). That would explain the personality change.
Nemesis (again) by english	Aug 30th, 2006 10:02:51 PM
Sorry, should have said "...appeared as a back-up...".
Re: Nemesis by Prof Challenger	Aug 30th, 2006 10:10:38 PM
Thanks. That would explain the oncongruity there. So who knows the background on the new guy enough to fill me in? That's what the cogs are for. Well....that and bringing the funny.
R.I.P. Pa Kent by Bubba Gillman	Aug 30th, 2006 10:18:37 PM
Kind of, but not really, off topic - Glenn Ford has passed away. Oh, and Superman Returns rules.
Thanks for the kind words people by El Vale	Aug 30th, 2006 10:25:26 PM
Hugs for everyone YAAAAAY!
Re: Nemesis by Thalya	Aug 30th, 2006 10:26:32 PM
A quick check on dcuguide.com revealed that the second Nemesis was a woman killed by Eclipso. The original Nemesis, Tom Tresser, appears to be our man, as it was mentioned he served in the Suicide Squad in this issue of WW. But Prof, I kinda agree with you that his characterization is off, and that's only what I've seen since issue #1, where he was a much cooler cat. On another note, the Dodsons' art is a treat, ain't it?
Re: Nemesis by Prof Challenger	Aug 30th, 2006 10:41:10 PM
The Dodsons' art is absolutely gorgeous. That's one thing going right now at DC. They've got some artists that really know how to draw the wimmens.
No kidding... by Thalya	Aug 30th, 2006 10:51:46 PM
And that actually reminds me. Going back to issue #0 of Justice League of America for a moment, at the end when Benes' art comes in, I think that's the most honestly beautiful depiction of Wonder Woman I've ever seen, and that could take some doing because there's been a sizable amount of Wonder Woman art in the past year alone.
Re: Nemesis by Prof Challenger	Aug 30th, 2006 10:56:32 PM
Benes' Wonder Woman and Vixen are unbelievable. That shot of Powergirl on the cover was nice too. What I like about his stuff (Dodsons too) is that it's not just pin-up work. They don't just look like they're posing for a porn photo.
Re: WW by Prof Challenger	Aug 30th, 2006 10:57:59 PM
But I still say that Braithwait and Ross's pic of Wonder Woman for the JUSTICE fact-file on WW is the hands-down best visualization of WW I've ever seen.
Self-Pimping Time by Prof Challenger	Aug 30th, 2006 11:03:16 PM
My latest contribution to the world of literature has started shipping this week. I am one of three illustrators who contributed to the massive collection PEARLS FROM PEORIA by Philip Jose Farmer. Available now from Subterranean Press at or through Amazon for a good sized discount. Check it out!
My fave rendition of WW by El Vale	Aug 30th, 2006 11:14:03 PM
I remember this one time i drew Wonder Woman singing into her hairbrush. It was pretty sweet.
That's very cool Prof by El Vale	Aug 30th, 2006 11:14:46 PM
I'd buy it if i could.
El Vale by Prof Challenger	Aug 30th, 2006 11:15:22 PM
How could you tell it was WW without her clothes on?
Calculator by dan grendel	Aug 30th, 2006 11:26:01 PM
Thalya, your fetish is well known 'round here, so I don't wanna argue with you about him as I could be horribly flensed in my sleep or something, but for me Meltzer introduced the new take on the Calculator but Simone took the idea and ran with it, truly making the character into something cool. That's why I listed her and not Meltzer, though he should certainly get some credit for it as the originator of the new character idea. It's true I should have at least given him a partial- mea culpa.
To Professor Challenger from l Vale by El Vale	Aug 30th, 2006 11:30:04 PM

Terribly sorry by El Vale	Aug 30th, 2006 11:36:53 PM
Anyway Prof, she had her Wonderful tiara on, plus the bracelets...by the way, did anyone ever see my Wonder Pucca? http://tinyurl.com/psgw6 there you go, do enjoy.
Prf Challenger, RE: Vixen by jocutus	Aug 30th, 2006 11:37:45 PM
If you think she looks good in the new JLA, I think she was as good or better in the Justice League cartoons. I never really thought much of her until I saw her character on JLU, but they always found interesting ways to use her powers in fight scenes and established her as a meaningful character with a relationship with Green Lantern John Stewart. Now when I read her dialogue I hear Gina Torres's voice.
The color wheel by filmcans	Aug 30th, 2006 11:38:20 PM
Purple and green are not opposite red and green. It would be YELLOW and green.
Uhmm filmcans... by Prof Challenger	Aug 31st, 2006 12:19:57 AM
May I refer you to the tenth post on this talkback where I corrected myself on the typo there. You'll note that in the very same paragraph I referred to the Red and Yellow first. The later Red and Green reference was what's called a typo where my brain got "green" stuck. And I didn't catch it till the column posted.
.... by blackthought	Aug 31st, 2006 12:26:32 AM
vixen...
You got your Cog in my @$$hole.... by GreatA'Tuin	Aug 31st, 2006 12:38:40 AM
...yes...that's right...I went there...and so did your Mom last night
Fell by AnAgentOfEvil	Aug 31st, 2006 01:58:33 AM
Everyone who reads comics should be reading this one. I think #6 came out last week.
Supernova=Booster Gold by kintar0	Aug 31st, 2006 04:50:41 AM
Came back from the future, again.
Admit it... by vagrant's choice	Aug 31st, 2006 07:16:15 AM
"Writer Brad Meltzer does not disguise a nominal writing talent behind a gift for long-winded dialogue." --admit it Prof. you are talking about Bendis here. I don't disagree with your point.
They did a "Wolverine vs. Darkness" book? by rev_skarekroe	Aug 31st, 2006 07:40:45 AM
Did I fall asleep and wake up in 1997? BTW, I bought the "Thing" trade and it was good. Not the corny Peter David silliness some of the Talkbackers were making it out to be. Not the greatest superhero comic of all time either. But good.
JUGG has a BEER and CHEETS on FUCKLER by BannedOnTheRun	Aug 31st, 2006 07:43:08 AM
Brother.
Turtle by Thalya	Aug 31st, 2006 08:11:04 AM
Sounds like someone's gettin' Caged then.
Congrats on the review, Vale! by Shigeru	Aug 31st, 2006 08:45:42 AM
You sound like a more youthful Vern. *** superhero, thanks for the Spidey loves MJ review, I love that book. But Miyazawa's leaving??! NOOOOO when?
Meltzer Sucks by mattb127	Aug 31st, 2006 08:47:33 AM
Dude. Could that issue be more boring? And what the hell is up with 'Arsenal?' He's a bargain basement Robin. With some kind of soul patch on his chin. I mean, seriously, BATMAN has a hard time fitting in around the giants. Um, Arsenal? And by the way, is any one picking up on the fact that the "Justice" series seems to be an answer to "Identity Crisis?"
Meltzer by Shigeru	Aug 31st, 2006 09:04:33 AM
needs to cut it the heck out with all those different narration panels. I guess that's what happens when you are used to writing internal monologues in novels, but um comics aren't novels.
Next week's Y the Last Man by Shigeru	Aug 31st, 2006 09:20:06 AM
Good news: no pointless, no one cares, all-Alter issue. Bad news: still feels like BKV is panicing a bit about 11 issues left. Still good tho. SPOILERS: everybody dies.
... by blackthought	Aug 31st, 2006 09:40:40 AM

Awsome guest review, Vale... by loodabagel	Aug 31st, 2006 10:27:52 AM
You're king of the cogs, man. Too bad that wasn't the Lady Death/War Angel review from last week. You know, so we could see the lovely cover.
I've always wondered... by nofate	Aug 31st, 2006 11:04:23 AM
if the artists on Grant Morrison's books take the same drugs he does in order to understand what the hell he's writing. "OK Andy, in this panel Batman is attacked by a bunch of Man-Bat ninjas" Andy-"WHAT? Oh wait (pops a light colored pill). Oh yeah, I totally share your vision". Oh, and before I forget, a quick shout out to The Heathen. Ditto my friend, our little back and forth last week was by far the best comics related conversation I've had in these talkbacks. Too bad Sleazy's ignorant ass felt compelled to chime in.
Yeah, but Vale, where's the zombies... by GreatA'Tuin	Aug 31st, 2006 11:09:39 AM
Seriously, that book would have been tits with a zombi-pocalypse.
kintar0...that's been my guess about Supernova too... by superhero	Aug 31st, 2006 11:25:59 AM

Mattb, check out my JUSTICE review from last month... by superhero	Aug 31st, 2006 11:27:50 AM
I completely believe that JUSTICE is Ross's reaction to Identity Crisis. I'm with you on that one.
Miyazawa's leaving the book in November, I think... by superhero	Aug 31st, 2006 11:44:20 AM
See more details here: http://www.tokyopop.com/383.ht ml Hey, at least he's doing it to follow his dream. Good for him! I wanna go to Japan SO badly...
Way to go, Vale. by The Heathen	Aug 31st, 2006 11:53:19 AM
My penis was impressed (now there's an AICN Cogism for ya). I eagerly await
Thanks, nofate by The Heathen	Aug 31st, 2006 12:22:55 PM
Good to know there can be conversations on AICN where someone isn't challenged to a wrestling match, huh? Although we had different opinions I too feel we presented our sides and did so well. Don't be too hard on Sleazy. I can understand much of his non content for the situation (being the Daredevil/Batman crossover), but later on he did say that Bendis was a stand up guy for having apolagized and he wasn't aware of that until then. Thanks again though man.
All Hail El Vale..... by Psynapse	Aug 31st, 2006 12:38:42 PM
'Cuz you must admit that was THE funniest review up this week. In other news, I HATE YOU ALL (But really only because with the death of the 11 year old Raver Neon I can't buy any comics until I have a new set of wheels). Still, you are all bastards for tormenting me with your insolent comic reading-ness. Bunch-a goddamn demon spawned butt-baby bastards ye be....
"You sound like a more youthful Vern" by El Vale	Aug 31st, 2006 01:23:00 PM
OMFG dies so much Best compliment ever, i'm gonna go cry.
Seriously, you people are awesome by El Vale	Aug 31st, 2006 01:28:04 PM
Thanks for all the kind words. By the way, i "picked up" JLA this week and then when i realized it was like 40 pages of 6 different sets of caption boxes talking about a bunch of characters i don't know, i went "I'm not reading that!". And now that you guys mention zombies and Y: The last man, i'm gonna go see if they're available for download now. See you in a minute.
Not to worry Psy.. by Thalya	Aug 31st, 2006 01:45:05 PM
I'm doubly motivated to churn out fanfic issue #2 over the weekend now so at least you might have some quasi-comicy goodness to read.
...kicks 7 kinds of handicapped @ss by vagrant's choice	Aug 31st, 2006 02:21:33 PM
Based on the positive press here I picked up Wasteland #2. I didn
Wasteland and X-Men by The Heathen	Aug 31st, 2006 02:27:51 PM
The first issue didn't really capture me. Haven't picked up the second though. And in a slip up I actually had the first issue of Carey & Bachalo's X-Men in my file and decided to leave it. Gave them the benefit of the doubt you know? Bad decision. Horrible stuff. Maybe if Bachalo wasn't so bad the script wold make some sort of sense, but I couldn't stand it. Just like when Liefeld did those two Teen Titans issues with Gail Simone writing I guess.
Now that summer is just about over... by ComputerGuy68	Aug 31st, 2006 02:33:15 PM
got tons of stuff to catch up on! Oh and good work El Vale!
My JLA take by Uncle Festering	Aug 31st, 2006 02:37:16 PM
Is that what was happening in JLA? I kind of read it differently....granted I read it with a pint of maker's mark sitting next to me....so I could have mis-read it...but. I kind of got the impression the holy trinity of bats, supes and wonder broad were recruiting a league, and GL and BC were recruiting a league of their own. Maybe that doesn't make much sense...but it doesn't seem to me that Hal Jordan would be the type to sit around wait for the big three to make their choices and then be the errand boy to go recruit. Oh and that last issue of the Daredevil arc where Foggy is alive prompted me to ebay the entire run. I'm tired of lame ass "fooled ya he ain't really dead" story arcs. I wonder if the big two publishers ever thought that maybe readership was down because they always cheat readers by telling a story only to find out its worthless to the continuity and leaves readers fleeced (I felt as jipped as I did when I saw the Daredevil movie). Guess they do it so their talentless editors and writers can recycle the same characters instead of coming up with something new. That might 'gasp' draw in new readers and keep old ones happy. and what's with both Bats and Daredevil going off to fight poofs in Europe. JEEZUS this shit is getting lame....I'm gonna start reading books without pictures soon
"Robert Altman directing a Star Wars movie." by The Heathen	Aug 31st, 2006 02:48:24 PM
I've honestly never thought of that. How bizarre that would be. Also, props to Prof. for the 'preeettty prettty good' reference. Love, Larry David.
interesting take, festering by The Heathen	Aug 31st, 2006 03:00:49 PM
I thought that when the trinity brought up Hal's pic and agreed on him (after Bruces discern not to have him in - I'll get to that in a moment) that the next page where Hal is with Roy meant that he was already in. Because after the main three, Hal is the man to go to in my opinion. But I can see why you might think otherwise. The two different covers also would lead to some sort of split with those that were with Hal (Roy, Black Lightning, Green Arrow, Black Canary) were on one cover and the trinity with others were on the other. Hmm? I hope that's not the case, but you never know. Thalya? And about Batman and Hal? That WAS resolved more or less in the GL issue drawn by Van Sciver (#9?) where Bruce tried on the power ring and made amends with Hal. Maybe Meltzer should have read that one. That was the only thing the bugged me really. Despite what people are saying about all the captions, I found it to be some good stuff. I think many would agree that we don't always need rock em sock em robots if the characters are handled well. Despite that one editorial mishap of Batman and Hal they were.
OMFG by El Vale	Aug 31st, 2006 03:57:58 PM
Heath is really Larry David!
hot damn... by blackthought	Aug 31st, 2006 04:08:24 PM
larry david! heathen you tricked us all!
You're on to me by The Heathen	Aug 31st, 2006 04:48:33 PM
Yep, I'm Larry David. "Juuudayyyy!!! It's JUDY!!!" The wife says she hates to watch Curb Your Enthusiasm because it reminds her too much of what I'll be like when I'm that age. I think I'm personally ahead of Larry David when he was my age, at least in uncomfortable situations and things like that. I keep a bunch of spare change with me so I can throw it on the ground if I'm approached by a bum because they always approach me for some reason. I've yelled at one because he came up to me twice in two weeks with the same story and i was like. "Look. I've heard it already buddy. I gave you a few bucks before and wished you the best. But do you even remember that? Noooo. Do I look like I can afford to give you my money?I'm skinny and pale with Diabetes. Do you have Diabetes? I don't think you do. I'm preeetty, pretty sure you do not. THANK YOU." I've also been asked THREE times while driving my car if I wanted to by home theater speakers. WTF? The last time I yelled at the guy. "Why? Why me? What is it about me? Do I look stupid enough to follow you to a parking lot? Do you really think I believe that you have 'extra' speakers and that I can get a home theater for $50 bucks?" He replies,"Fuck you, ass." "No - fuck
AHH, TIT MOUSE!!! by The Heathen	Aug 31st, 2006 04:50:17 PM
that is all.
heathen you my caucasian by Darth Kal-El	Aug 31st, 2006 04:56:02 PM
man i cant really watch that show either. it kind of bugs me how much trouble and nonsense he gets up to. my dad loves it tho
Heath by El Vale	Aug 31st, 2006 05:02:37 PM
My aunt is a sociologist and she's worked with a lot of welfare institutions and such, worked with a lot of homeless people and they always tell her they know to approach certain people by just looking in their eyes. Sounds corny, but it's true, like they can tell if you're a nice guy just by looking in your eyes. So basically what i'm trying to say is you don't fool me, mister, you're too nice!
I understand that.... by GreatA'Tuin	Aug 31st, 2006 05:07:33 PM
...I am the only person who fucking HATED Seinfeld, but seriously, I do not get the appeal of fucking Curb Your Enthusiasm. I seriously want to croak every person on that show. My buddy always Tivos that shit and tries to get me to watch the whole show under the guise of "you gotta see this one scene, let me find it". JUGG FUCKLERS!
re: My JLA take by Prof Challenger	Aug 31st, 2006 05:43:42 PM
I don't get that "take" on it at all. I side with Heathen on that. Seemed clear to me that Meltzer was time-jumping a bit and showing us the Trinity's process of choosing the first level of the team (like Hal) and then sent them out to recruit the others (like Roy). I don't expect there to be two teams though. I expect that there will be a core team of 6 or 7 and then, like JLU, the rest of the heroes are "on call" as needed.
You are not alone O Divine Turtle..... by Psynapse	Aug 31st, 2006 05:55:18 PM
I LOATHED Sienfeld and DESPISE Curb your enthusiasm. Mainly because if I knew anyone that acted like those characters do I would knock the shit out of them quite often. I
like some of sienfeld by Darth Kal-El	Aug 31st, 2006 05:59:58 PM
tho by no means a huge fan but cant really stand curb. your right psy associating with people like that would run you a high risk of ending up in a jail cell. which reminds me-its been a year since my last run in with the law- be careful out there this weekend everyone. cops will be out with sobriety checkpoints and other such ways to make your long weekend hell. if u dont believe me look through the talkbacks from last year when i was arrested at a sobriety checkpoint(COMPLTELY SOBER, those sons of bitches!!!!) anyways,yeah curb sucks. stay safe. fuck the po-po
Hey I've associated with MANY a type... by Psynapse	Aug 31st, 2006 06:10:52 PM
likely to land my ass in jail but none of them were so shallow, puerile, and plain ass annoying like those Seinfeld fucks. Career and part-time criminals I can handle (and have-badump-bump!) but annoying pseudo-intellectuals? Fuck that noise in it's ear.
...those seinfeld fucks by Darth Kal-El	Aug 31st, 2006 06:15:03 PM
should be the tagline for the new dvd set
Big Seinfeld fan by El Vale	Aug 31st, 2006 07:05:53 PM
So fuck you.
Hurray mattb127 by Homer Sexual	Aug 31st, 2006 07:06:56 PM
I think I've been on the same page with you before, but I am heartened to see other posters who dislike Meltzer's writing. I find him stodgy and misogynistic. Now, what is da bombolino is Kraven's Last Hunt. Why buy a hardback when a GN is already available, I don't know. But that is one kick-ass story, and I am not even a Spider-Man fan. As someone who LOVED Daughters of the Dragon, and PowerMan/Iron Fist back in the day, I was mildly disappointed by Heroes for Hire #1, but I think that is primarily because of the obligatory Civil War crap, and secondarily because Tarantula isn't much of a character at this point. Still, an entertaining and above average comic I'd recommend. Wonder Woman is a'ight but I preferred Rucka's run. I got no love for Donna Troy, so the white suited Diana at the end was the best part--loved her when she was out of WW togs during Meissner-Loeb's run as well. 52 was decent, I enjoy it's hopping around storylines approach, but didn't get that into the Marvel wedding shindig. Eternals is very interesting to me, but kind of a carbon copy of the original Supreme Power, where the entire series exists only to introduce us to the characters who will probably not unite until the end of the final issue (of the mini).
Not exactly a big Seinfeld fan. by Homer Sexual	Aug 31st, 2006 07:10:37 PM
But that's just because some episodes were boring and the end was horrible. I love Curb, and fear I am just as puerile and annoying as Jerry and Elain (but not as annoying as George or Larry).
not saying seinfeld is a bad show by Darth Kal-El	Aug 31st, 2006 08:19:39 PM
its decently funny. ive never been one to follow it. in truth i just catch it on reruns when there is nothing else to watch.
i was just reading by Darth Kal-El	Aug 31st, 2006 08:33:22 PM
in my new xbox magazine about the upcoming superman returns game for 360. apperantly,besides being able to fight metallo,mongul and brainiac there is also a mini game in which u can play as bizarro! the object of the game is to DESTROY metropolis instead of saving it! Suweet!
Darth, now that right there... by Thalya	Aug 31st, 2006 09:13:28 PM
..is totally tits. Playing as Bizarro that is. Shame I'm not likely to be an Xbox buyer.. And Heathen, I think the Batman/Hal thing was more or less resolved, but it doesn't mean Bruce still can't hold a grudge. I mean, he's still holding one over Hawkman moreover, and thank goodness the Big Three didn't bring up Zatanna. I can forgive Meltzer for doing that, moreover, because he needed a lead into Hal/Roy. And also, are you referring to the old cover design or the new cover design for JLA #1, 'cause they played switcheroo a bit (and what's Hourman doing on the cover anyway?).
... by blackthought	Aug 31st, 2006 10:23:58 PM

Anyone besides Thal and me by El Vale	Aug 31st, 2006 10:30:18 PM
Really excited about Bru and Phillips' Criminal? Warren Ellis described it as "Good. Really fucking good".
I'm excited about wha? by Thalya	Aug 31st, 2006 10:43:47 PM

Haha by El Vale	Aug 31st, 2006 10:50:11 PM
As always, i was kidding...because i was loving.
RE: Big Seinfeld fan by Psynapse	Sep 1st, 2006 08:41:45 AM
"So fuck you." Gee Vale, I didn't know you were sweating me like that. I mean, I'm flattered but considering the distance between us it might be a bit difficult y'know? I know we agreed we'd keep that weekend in Cancun from the other Cogs but I guess you've decided our forbidden love must see the light of day.
That Superman Returns game... by Shigeru	Sep 1st, 2006 08:53:42 AM
sounds like Hulk: Ultimate Destruction (the one with the Bryan Hitch cover). It puts you as Hulk in the middle of a fairly giant city, and you can run up the side of buildings, thunderclap ambulances until they blow up, and head-butt pedestrians until they die. Also you can throw tanks at giant robots. Did I mention that game is the tits?
What's come over you, Vale? by Thalya	Sep 1st, 2006 08:57:39 AM
I mean, the past coupla weeks or so all the bile's drained out of your posts. Your liver didn't explode, did it, hon? ;)
I know Vale's hearts been broken recently, so maybe... by loodabagel	Sep 1st, 2006 09:51:31 AM
he's softened up. I hate to seay it, but ut sounds like a good time of the day for Dildo to come around. Also, with all the praise we been givin' the guy for his reviews, he's ridin' the high horse, so to speak.
Criminal and the homeless by vagrant's choice	Sep 1st, 2006 10:41:19 AM
The Criminal preview in Walking Dead was really good. Ed Brubaker said to imagine the captions as a voice over in a movie trailer and damned if that didn
Curb Your Justice League of America by The Heathen	Sep 1st, 2006 10:45:44 AM
First off, I love Curb Your Enthusiasm but hated it before I saw it and got a feel for it. I've heard and felt the same about shows like Firefly, Entourage and Battlestar Galactica (still haven't really watched that last one though). Seinfeld was the greatest sitcom ever before Arrested Development aired and showed us pure genius. Having said that Seinfeld is great, it did however have a series finale that makes me cry because it was so bad. I don't even like to acknowledge that it exists. Same goes for Friends finale. Crap. You know what sitcom had a great end? Mother fuggin Frasier. But that's for another time. ; ) *** Thanks for saying that I'm nice, Vale. Although I share some similarities with Larry David, I don't think that I'm the over exaggerator that he is, nor am I as selfish
Word, vagrant. by The Heathen	Sep 1st, 2006 10:56:28 AM
I work in an area where there are about 5 'regulars' and of those, one is really nice and sweet and always has a smile on her face and not in a doped up way even. Which I admire her for because it must be hard. Then there is the other end of the spectrum. There is this one that walks around with a teddy bear barking at people and cars
periwinkle blue by Thalya	Sep 1st, 2006 11:36:10 AM
piker
... by blackthought	Sep 1st, 2006 11:36:53 AM

And now for something completely tasteless... by Psynapse	Sep 1st, 2006 11:41:43 AM
Q: Why did the fag keep bringing used condoms into work?****A: Hey he liked to pack his lunch!
Well I don't know about completely tasteless.. by Thalya	Sep 1st, 2006 11:43:25 AM
They had to have been kinda salty, right?
ftw by Shigeru	Sep 1st, 2006 12:01:57 PM

uuaww man by The Heathen	Sep 1st, 2006 12:20:17 PM
heh.
Another swipe at Bendis, eh? by Ribbons	Sep 1st, 2006 12:26:59 PM
"Writer Brad Meltzer does not disguise a nominal writing talent behind a gift for long-winded dialogue." Anyhoo, "Justice League of America" is a really appealing book. My hope is that it'll hook younger audiences as well as (possibly?) people who enjoy Meltzer's novels. The fact that the series is off to a good start doesn't hurt either, although I could've done without the Climactic Juxtaposition of Several Concurrent Scenes a la 'The Godfather' and "Identity Crisis" at the end.
What's come over me? by El Vale	Sep 1st, 2006 12:55:51 PM
I don't wanna be percieved as an asshole because that's not who i am in real life. Plus, isn't it easier being nice? Hugs for everyone. PS: Thal....eewwww.
shig by Darth Kal-El	Sep 1st, 2006 12:57:12 PM
the hulk game is indeed the tits! talk about some great stress relief(that is until butchering zombies came along) i also highly recomened the ultimate spider man game which actually follows the continuity of the comic. im pretty sure ive mentioned it before but its a good game worth pimping.****TGIMFF if you know what i mean!i havent bought any new comics yet but hopefully i can get out of work early and hit the store. i finished manhunter and i want to try my hand at a mini review of the trade but that will probably have to wait till the weekend
Have I tried this one out? by Psynapse	Sep 1st, 2006 01:17:46 PM
Q: What's the definition of mass confusion?****A: 10 blind lesbians on a tuna boat.
You done did it, Psy.... by GreatA'Tuin	Sep 1st, 2006 01:40:56 PM
What's the WORST part about fucking a five year old? ****** Getting the blood out of the clown suit. Thank you, Goodnight!
And because NOONE asked for it.... by GreatA'Tuin	Sep 1st, 2006 01:44:49 PM
How do you make a five year old girl cry twice? ****** Wipe your dick off on her teddy bear.
Okay howzabout some dead baby jokes? by Psynapse	Sep 1st, 2006 02:26:16 PM
Q: What's red and sits in a corner?*A: A baby chewing on a razor blade.Q: What's green and sits in a corner?*A: Same baby 3 weeks later.
wow by Shigeru	Sep 1st, 2006 03:03:02 PM

Shig by El Vale	Sep 1st, 2006 03:08:24 PM
I know man, i know.
i've never been so proud by Shigeru	Sep 1st, 2006 03:18:47 PM

wipes tear oh boy by The Heathen	Sep 1st, 2006 03:46:33 PM
Anyway, I got Kingdom Come yesterday. I have not read it ever, but it seems as though many people, including comic writers, have referenced it a lot lately and seem to be referring to it in current books. I also read Batman, Walking Dead and Astonishing X-Men last night. All was right with the world after those three and I smiled because I still had All Star Superman to get to, but I am saving it for today.
You want more? Okay then.... by Psynapse	Sep 1st, 2006 04:17:49 PM
If a truckload of dead babies is gross, and a live one at the bottoms eating its way out is grosser than gross, what's grossest of all? ***When he goes back for seconds.
Okay, okay since you asked nicely.... by Psynapse	Sep 1st, 2006 04:28:35 PM
Q:What do you get when you cover 4 dead babies with a piece of glass?***A: A coffee table.
thats so funny that u got kingdom come by Darth Kal-El	Sep 1st, 2006 05:01:57 PM
heathen i was just thinking yesterday that i need to ask u if u have read it and if not recomend u get it post haste? what other cogs are still missing their kingdom come requirement?
And that, M'Lord is how we know the world's... by GreatA'Tuin	Sep 1st, 2006 05:01:59 PM
fucked up! Well, played sir.
aw shite, the good jokes are out... by blackthought	Sep 1st, 2006 05:17:25 PM
um...Q: what is brown and sits by a computer? A: me rendering...there is not taste in that is there?
Depends, blackthought.. by Thalya	Sep 1st, 2006 05:36:03 PM
Are you chocolate-flavored? *** And Darth, I've actually read Kingdom Come. One of the first graphic novels recommended to me by our dear Psy-fi (along with COIE). I had no clue who pretty much everyone was except for the big names, but I found it pretty darn great and it really grows as all the references start to make sense. That said, I still have yet to break open Absolute Watchmen from when I got it back in January. And you may all throw rotten vegetables.... ...... ...... ...... .... ...... NOW!!!
You are in for a treat with KC, Heathen... by Shigeru	Sep 1st, 2006 05:49:13 PM
"SHAZAM!" 'Nuff said.
Kingdom Come by Psynapse	Sep 1st, 2006 05:50:15 PM
I own the original mini-series, the softcover collection AND the entire trading card set (I bought a fucking box o' them bitches). IMHO (so suck it bitches) it is one of THE best examinations/deconstrcutions of the superhero scenario. Now who wants more sick ass jokes?
Yo Shig... by Psynapse	Sep 1st, 2006 05:53:30 PM
Don't you mean: "Shazam! Shazam!Shazam!! Shazam!! SHAZAM!!!"??
chucks tomatoes by The Heathen	Sep 1st, 2006 05:56:33 PM
SHAME!!! Read it. And it's the Absolute? Read it now. I got the Absolute Kingdom Come (thank you Amazon price break) and it's shiny. I'm going to try to break into it asap, but I have a pile of current stuff that I can't let get ahead of me.
i'm even more excited now! by The Heathen	Sep 1st, 2006 05:58:35 PM
omigosh, omigosh, omigosh
capt. marvel does kick tons of ass in kingdom come by blackthought	Sep 1st, 2006 06:04:05 PM

KC kicks all kinds of ass by Darth Kal-El	Sep 1st, 2006 06:21:47 PM
and nutsack too! i only have the trade wich ive owned for about 6 years now. i just got it back actually from my brother who had never read it. its all dog eared and clearly read multiple times but i keep passing it on to people. ive personally read it something like 5 times and it never stops being cool.
ALL-STAR SUPERMAN by Prof Challenger	Sep 1st, 2006 06:25:49 PM
Hands-down, the single best issue of any comic yet published in 2006. I ain't reviewin' it, but that needed to be said. And Grant Morrison may have just cinched his Best Writer @$$IE this year simply for bringing back the hot, long lost and forgotten evil neice of Lex Luthor. I'm talkin' about "Nasty" Luthor -- Supergirl's old arch-nemesis. Kneel everyone before the greatness of Grant Morrison. Kneel before Grant.
"So that's what it feels like.." by Thalya	Sep 1st, 2006 06:27:15 PM
Batman, PWNED!
No Bendis! swipe by me by Prof Challenger	Sep 1st, 2006 06:29:01 PM
I'd have to actually READ Bendis! comics to be able to make a dig at him. Methinks thou art a tad bit over-sensitive about your idol. Don't become a Bendis! version of a knee-jerk Byrne-bot.
i was going to say by Darth Kal-El	Sep 1st, 2006 06:39:03 PM
thats also one of my favorite scenes thal. and the thing at the end in the diner? ok no more spolers. i want the heathster to get the full benefit of the story. and damn heath the absolute edition? i was going to try to get that for xmas! lucky!
oh my by Darth Kal-El	Sep 1st, 2006 06:44:41 PM
that is a sweet price! http://tinyurl.com/s7h7w-
And that one panel.. (not a spoiler) by Thalya	Sep 1st, 2006 06:48:32 PM
..that's a shout-out to the classic Teen Titans? Sweetness. (and they're just about all in red for some reason..)
True true, Darth by Thalya	Sep 1st, 2006 06:49:59 PM
That was the Absolute Watchmen price too, give or take a buck.
I'm going to read it when I get home. by The Heathen	Sep 1st, 2006 08:00:47 PM
I can't wait anymore.
now u see by Darth Kal-El	Sep 1st, 2006 08:09:05 PM
thats using the ol' cranium son!
Waid rules. 'nuff said by Thalya	Sep 1st, 2006 08:17:32 PM

Oh my... by Thalya	Sep 1st, 2006 08:20:17 PM
Anyone seen those covers to Action Comics that look like newspapers? There's a quote from one Abraham Simpson, 92, of Springfield on this week's issue..
And then there's the rest of the issue.. >=D !!! by Thalya	Sep 1st, 2006 08:47:41 PM

Well, can't say you didn't see it coming by El Vale	Sep 2nd, 2006 02:48:53 AM
I read Kingdom Come last year and did not care for it one bit. Maybe i'll re read it some day, tho', i mean you never know.
Prof... by Ribbons	Sep 2nd, 2006 10:53:21 AM
...uhh, for starters, he's not my idol. My wariness can be attributed to the fact that he gets roughed up (critically speaking) by the @$$holes all the time, often when the comic being reviewed has nothing to do with him, except that it's written "the way comics are supposed to be written," unlike Bendis! comics, apparently. At this point someone will say "we don't take jabs at him all the time," which is true. That's an exaggeration. But then, so is calling Bendis my idol.
Anyway... by Ribbons	Sep 2nd, 2006 10:54:19 AM
...it's not that big of a deal.
... by blackthought	Sep 3rd, 2006 01:07:43 PM

bang thunk by Thalya	Sep 3rd, 2006 11:30:27 PM
Monday is dead! Long live Monday!
Ribbons by El Vale	Sep 4th, 2006 12:25:40 AM
My sentiments exactly.
Sorry, Thalya (a Manhunter review) by dregmobile	Sep 4th, 2006 12:49:44 AM
If every single cog got a chance to hand in a guest review, I'd be last. Not just because I know the least about comics here, but when I review something, it's usually written down in a stream of ongiong thought, with little structure to it, and no regard for the poor sap who has to read it. < Just a warning. For this. > I got to ask what it is about this title that hooked you, Thalya - were you on board because of these first five issues - or did it happen after? Because I found this TP a very disappointing read. First up, the STORY. We don't necessarily move into the action too quickly, but there is very little presented on our lead character before the reader is forced to believe she can go toe to toe with a giant mutant beast. If I missed the reference to this lady going to the gym or attending martial arts classes, I apologise. But from what I could gather - she is some star L.A. attorney (who smokes - a lot - another reason I don't get how she can be so athletic). Granted, she makes stupid moves during battle ... but this would be true of any crime-fighter's first night on the city. So I found the turn into action very sudden. And this lazy storytelling continued throughout. There are nice touches in the narrative, like the costume in the boot of the car ... the issue about costume storage ... the briuses that hurt the next day ... these work. But then they have this woman allow her son to blow himself into a coma (almost)? And we are STILL supposed to sympathise with her? By the way, she KILLS her victims. Anyway, none of this helped with the clumsy storytelling. And the ART: most of the panels outside of any action sequence were usually way too big for what was going on. The writers could have crammed way more story into each issue. I don't think I have ever read a TP in such record time. The sidekick techno-guy was a nice addition. The references to Firestorm dying had me a little confused as I ignored Identity Crisis. The art itself had a nice grit to it, but I was mostly unimpressed. I wonder if they used Linda Fiorentino as a visual guide for Manhunter, as that is who I was picturing. If you tell me it gets better and they churn out another TP, I'd probably give it a try. But I found these opening issues pretty average.
Wow. 24 hours later and still no new post? by dregmobile	Sep 5th, 2006 12:46:24 AM
Either my browser is faulty or my breath really stinks ...
My God dreg by El Vale	Sep 5th, 2006 03:10:07 AM
Did you kill the Cogs? More tomorrow.
Time for what will probably be my only post today... by loodabagel	Sep 5th, 2006 09:38:45 AM
And I'm wasting it on this..."What's the difference between 100 dead babies and a Porcshe?" "I don't have a Porcshe in my garage." Also-Kingdom Come? I didn't really get it. It had it moments. Was it the best comic ever? No. But it was pretty good. As usual, Batman kicked ass. As did Captain Marvel. Badass.
Bendis love by The Heathen	Sep 5th, 2006 09:53:26 AM
To be fair to our hard working @$$holes, there has been nothing but Bendis LOVE (that's right) for the past few months. Have you heard anything bad about the Ultimate Clone Saga here? Don't think so. Nothing but praise, even from Vale and he
Hasn't anybody read Astonishing X Men... by loodabagel	Sep 5th, 2006 10:13:37 AM
Possibly one of the more ass kickingly cool fight scenes I've seen this year. Hell, it probably was the best! The only thing (sadly) that I can think of that compares to it was The Flash's vs. Superboy in Infinite Crisis.
It was my birthday yesterday. by Shigeru	Sep 5th, 2006 10:20:28 AM
What did you get me? Huh?
looda by Shigeru	Sep 5th, 2006 10:23:48 AM
You mean when Kitty beats the ever-loving shit out of Emma Frost? That was cool.
Happy Birthday, Shiggy... by loodabagel	Sep 5th, 2006 10:27:19 AM
I'd give this crappy Aquaman comic I have (because it embarasses me) but I don't have your address. So, as a gift, you don't have to own the crappy Aquaman comic.
A Cog B-Day?!?!?! by The Heathen	Sep 5th, 2006 10:27:22 AM
I had no idea, Shig! My Natalie gram will have to arrive extra fast now. Hope you had a good one man. The old MySpace didn't tell me it was your B-day either the bastard. Any fun adventures had? *** I luuuuved Astonishing looda. Kitty kicks ass. The ending confused me a little bit, but I'm sure it'll be explained.
Yeah by Shigeru	Sep 5th, 2006 10:38:26 AM
I'm old. 26. Thanks looda and Heathen. Yeah I went to the Salem Willows, which is like a big park on the water complete with boardwalk with restaurants and an arcade and stuff. But yeah I chilled with good friends and stuffed my face, and then wasted way too many quarters on the original TMNT arcade game. And then: Skeeball!
happy belated b-day shig... by blackthought	Sep 5th, 2006 10:45:56 AM
and kingdom come is most excellent indeed...and dreg, i don't know how to break this but you won't be the last cog to get a review posted in this column cuz well you are not a cog...we probably should of explained what a cog and who they are when you asked or when anyone poses that question...what is a cog? hopefully one day we'll just be able to provide a link or have a wikipedia entry that fills everyone in. otherwise no biggie. and how was everyone's holiday that had a holiday? fuggin' fsu beat the canes last night...season's already over.
go gators by Shigeru	Sep 5th, 2006 11:21:40 AM
or something
ORANGE!!! by The Heathen	Sep 5th, 2006 11:35:13 AM
BLUE!!! * A Cane's fan, blackthought? Oh well. at least not an FSU fan. Shig knows what that would have meant. At least you have reason to like the Canes having lived there right? Friggin Seminoles. Yeah, my brother went and watched the Gator game on pay-per-view while I stayed at home and enjoyed the silence and read Kingdom Come. I am a nerd. * The only arcade game I love more than TMNT is the X-Men arcade game. Love them games. Hey, Kal- El, when are we (well you - soon me) going to get those on XBOX Live Arcade?
X-Men Arcade and TMNT Arcade by Shigeru	Sep 5th, 2006 12:05:12 PM
2 of the GREATEST. (The Salem Willows also has The Simpsons arcade game which is outstanding). I always played as Colossus, I thought his mutant power button was rad, he would just like yell and flash and explode things near him. I remember Nightcrawler's being so good, he would teleport all around the screen. Damn.
"RRRAGGHHH!!!!" by The Heathen	Sep 5th, 2006 12:22:53 PM
Yeah, Colossus would yell and just clean house with that! And what what's up with Wolverine's power? I would always use the arcade game as an example as to why I could 'shoot' a ray of something from my claws when playing X-Men with my friends.
The original TMNT! by Thalya	Sep 5th, 2006 12:25:47 PM
Happy belated b-day Shig! And oddly enough, on my trip to Disney World a few weeks ago, I was waiting to get in line for Space Mountain by hanging out in the arcade right next to it and I wound up playing the old X-Men game as Colossus too! Craziness.
crazy by The Heathen	Sep 5th, 2006 12:36:17 PM
that we did not have meet with Psy and have some dinner!
like my speech da? by The Heathen	Sep 5th, 2006 12:38:06 PM
Vas that good? Have meet da? "RRRAGGHHH!!!!" Colossus rules.
... by blackthought	Sep 5th, 2006 12:45:14 PM

Happy B Day Shig by El Vale	Sep 5th, 2006 12:49:59 PM
I give you the gift of All Star Superman. I mean i can't buy it for you or anything but it's just wonderful. Read it and think of how i...had something to do with it, somehow, i don't know. Seriously tho', every time that book comes out, it feels like my birthday.
crazy that we did not have meet! by Shigeru	Sep 5th, 2006 12:57:04 PM
You sound like Borat. *** Dude T, Colossus is where it's at! Who else were the playable characters? Colossus, Wolverine, Nightcrawler, Cyclops and Storm?
Sad yeah, H.. by Thalya	Sep 5th, 2006 01:09:14 PM
That would've been cool. Maybe another time yet when Psy doesn't have a dying car on his hands. And Shig! Totally. Those were the characters I remember, and oddly enough, I've seen the game around plenty of times but that's the first time I can remember ever playing it.
My fellow Cogs by El Vale	Sep 5th, 2006 01:58:11 PM
It is crazy that we did not have meet and yet are so good friends no?
Happy Belated B-day Shig by Darth Kal-El	Sep 5th, 2006 02:17:39 PM
Man hell yeah the TMNT and the Xmen arcade game were so fucking awesome! i really wish we do end up getting them on xbox live.i also remember plunking quarters down madly on the micheal jackson moonwalker game but we shall never speak of that again!you know what i found out over the weekend? i dont have the patience to work my way through the first halo when there is zombies to slay or gangstas to cap(i rented saints row). heath can u just hit me with a spoiler filled rundwon of the games and the novels so i can be ready for 3?
I need a 'rundown' by Darth Kal-El	Sep 5th, 2006 02:43:09 PM
i have no idea what a rundwon is but it sounds vagely dirty. 'if want i can give your kitty the rundwon like is going out of style.is good da?'
Hmm by The Heathen	Sep 5th, 2006 02:55:35 PM
I give you all, Highlights from the TRANSFORMERS TB (of the day, or first half of the day): --- "Shut the fuck up, haters. Shut the fuck up, haters. Shut the fuck up, haters. Shut the fuck up, haters. Shut the fuck up, haters. Shut the fuck up, haters. Shut the fuck up, haters. Shut the fuck up, haters. Shut the fuck up, haters. Shut the fuck up, haters. Shut the fuck up, haters. Shut the fuck up, haters. Shut the fuck up, haters. Shut the fuck up, haters. Shut the fuck up, haters. Shut the fuck up, haters. Shut the fuck up, haters. SHUT THE FUCK UP, HATING BITCHES!" --- this has been, Highlights from the TRANSFORMERS TB (of the day, or first half of the day, or end of the day or night even)
Rundown reminds me of what we by El Vale	Sep 5th, 2006 02:55:40 PM
Like to call "El brochazo". Basically...no, i can't do it. Okay, it involves the penis and the vagina and there is a sort of brush stroke.
see im more of a by Darth Kal-El	Sep 5th, 2006 03:00:05 PM
lick the canvas kind of man. but i might try that brush stroke thing next time im near a vagina
and this goes to prove by Darth Kal-El	Sep 5th, 2006 03:01:05 PM
a theory of mine that no matter where we are conversatinally,we are never too far from sex...or the x-mansion!
A rundown would be better than a rusty trambone no? by The Heathen	Sep 5th, 2006 03:01:44 PM
Yeah, it would. Christopher Walken's great. What? Rundown? "Up his ass he hid this watch." Rusty. Pulp Fiction. Never mind. *** Y, I have come to the conclusion that I should not tell you what happens in the novels, for they are quite the adventure and short reads. If I can find them I will mail them to you even. As for the game, I will tell you what you want to know. Where are you at in the campaign? Tell me and I'll see if I can remember from there.
There is also what we like to call by El Vale	Sep 5th, 2006 03:02:44 PM
And this is just fucking grand, "El Pichacuerazo". Basically it is the slapping of a person's face with your penis. Tell no one.
"El brochazo" by The Heathen	Sep 5th, 2006 03:03:49 PM
Wife loves it. Just sayin.
"El Pichacuerazo" by The Heathen	Sep 5th, 2006 03:04:30 PM
I love it. Wife doesn't. Just sayin.
does the wife get mad when u have it done heath? by Darth Kal-El	Sep 5th, 2006 03:08:54 PM
cmon he set it up perfectly! i kid because i love. dude i am at the very fucking begining where you come down on the halo and have to ride around in the warthog. i just dont have the patience for it!
Heath by El Vale	Sep 5th, 2006 03:09:58 PM
That seems to be the general concensus. But i don't know, we need more opinions on the subject.
More "Highlights from the TRANSFORMERS TB of the hour" by The Heathen	Sep 5th, 2006 03:10:31 PM
--- "I think the potential is great! C'mon, fanboys...remember how Optimus was first created. Transcom 1 scanned machines and repaired the Autobots in their likenesses. And considering that the ship crashed in some desert supposedly in the US (likely New Mexico/Arizona area), how UNREALISTIC is Transcom 1 to scan a semi with that paint job?! It's pretty REALISTIC and I'm waiting to see how it all comes together. --- I feel like I should be missing a geek badge or something, because I have no idea what dude is talking about. All I know is that I personally had a great time reading that one.
I fucking LOVE the Halo campaign by El Vale	Sep 5th, 2006 03:12:00 PM
Haven't played Halo 2 tho' :(
Not to sound like a "Newsie" by El Vale	Sep 5th, 2006 03:16:22 PM
But i personally think that Transformer with the flames and the gay looks like shit. But i guess kids are really into Pimp my ride these days so it should work.
Vale by The Heathen	Sep 5th, 2006 03:26:17 PM
Darth, you bastid!!! I did set it up pretty nice though. Goal. Check this site out for Halo 'rundowns' and such. http://tinyurl.com/zfhlk Check out the three things after The Forerunners and then look at the transcipts for the Halo levels. Hope that helps. I'm glad Vale loves the Halo campaign. Me too.
Rouge Mondays... by GreatA'Tuin	Sep 5th, 2006 03:42:03 PM
...or how I learned to love ME! **** you wanna know how to beat a rouge monday? Work a short shift, and get paid for a full day at $27 an hour. I...like Natie Port's tits or Tony Jaa's elbow...kick ass. (For entirely different reasons of course.)
sweet! by Darth Kal-El	Sep 5th, 2006 03:50:10 PM
thanks heathen! and sorry i know it was a cheap shot but i was there so i took it! like a cock to the face!
Tony Jaa's elbow son! by The Heathen	Sep 5th, 2006 03:52:07 PM

like you took it last night, Y? by The Heathen	Sep 5th, 2006 03:53:52 PM
cheap shot! Heh, we kid because we love
Heath... by GreatA'Tuin	Sep 5th, 2006 04:00:26 PM
...you love cock to the face? Dude, tits I get, but hey whatever.
To slip into the idiom of Buzz Maverik for a moment.. by Thalya	Sep 5th, 2006 04:00:47 PM
El brochazo? El Pichacuerazo? Are they relatives of yours, Vale?
Oh, Buzz and his idiom. by The Heathen	Sep 5th, 2006 04:09:59 PM
Turtle, we have to look out for Psy and Thal, which I'm not sure either of them like cock to the face, but tits? we can all agree on tits right? Just forget about el pichacuerazo. * tegrof * Tits. Natalie Portman. Watchmen. All agreed on.
I'm not a cog? How do I become a cog? by dregmobile	Sep 5th, 2006 06:29:26 PM
I want to be a cog. Where do I sign up? Do I have to start watching 'LOST'? Anything to hang with you guys! Anything! I read another comic book today! Does that help? ***** YOUNG AVENGERS/RUNAWAYS #2 was ok. Got going toward the end. #3 should be great. HEROES FOR HIRE #1 was ok. Nice art, but I'm just waiting for their confrontation with Cap. CABLE & DEADPOOL #31 was good. i'm guaranteed at least a few chuckles from this title. i'm such a loyal civil war bitch at the moment.
actually by Darth Kal-El	Sep 5th, 2006 06:39:06 PM
the short version is the cogs are a group of tbers who got together last year around this time to keep the column going all week long. its kind of evolved from there into the whole 'orbiting mansion' and baked breads thing but the essence of it was to talk about comics or movies or video games with like minded individuals without having to deal with the usual AICN bullshit. we actually just recently recruited great Atuin based in large part on his posts(well what else would it be right) i dont know that were recruiting currently dreg but your always more than welcome to hang out on the tb here with us all week.we totally welcome any and all discussion.if it makes u feel any better your name has been heard around the halls of the cog mansion....
ah...tuesdays... by blackthought	Sep 5th, 2006 07:30:45 PM

Well ... okay ... by dregmobile	Sep 5th, 2006 08:12:49 PM
All I really want is one of those shiny badges. They're cool.
Gives dreg his Cog badge by El Vale	Sep 5th, 2006 08:20:16 PM
Hey back off, i really like this guy. Plus i'm a founding member, i can do whatever i want with my badge!
Dregmobile by The Heathen	Sep 5th, 2006 08:53:42 PM
First off, Darth, there is a reason you are the primary Cog Ambassador my friend. I couldn't have said it better than your above post. And dreg, you're name has been in the mix for Cog recruits. When the hell did we get Cog Badges? Vale? Anyway, continue to hang out every week, all week is the main thing to do dreg and you seem to be doing that more, plus you're not a dick
I will make you guys (and girl) proud ... by dregmobile	Sep 5th, 2006 09:48:42 PM
I know I will. wipes drool off badge Shit, I'm starting to feel like Arsenal in JLA #1. ***** So, has anyone read that Manhunter trade? Love it, hate it? I want to know if my feelings on it are a bit too extreme ... ?
...have you guys heard this news???!!???... by blackthought	Sep 5th, 2006 09:51:44 PM
bk vaughan and alphona are leaving runaways...this saddens me...
To be fair.... by GreatA'Tuin	Sep 5th, 2006 10:01:54 PM
...someone did ask about Cog history, and no answer was presented in the TB. I can see how dreg might have got confused. Ah well, life is grand, and so are tits. (Turtle is inexplicably happy lately. Someone should hide the knives and guns, and probably get the cage ready. I'm serious. I don't know what's going on, and I LIVE in this head.)
Go get 'em, dreg.. by Thalya	Sep 5th, 2006 10:40:12 PM
Sorry I didn't get back to you before now, but my head's been wonky and tired and stuff.. I think on Manhunter overall, the entire perspective was what hooked me: you've got the DCU proper and then you've got this grounded little niche of it, with a heroine who's not so much the smiling happy DC hero of yesteryear so much as she has some pretty major flaws (smoker, divorcee, certainly not the best mom around (but she's a MOM. Just how many superheroine moms are out there?)..). Plus, if anything, the first trade really just sets up her world; as things have progressed, Kate making that choice to be a Good Guy ultimately leads to self-improvement in alot of other areas of her life as well (and about the "how can she be so atheletic?" question, it was recently revealed, a couple of issues ago that she's got some JSA genes (and Ramsey as well, ooh boy)). This series was spun out of Identity Crisis and it shows (it could be why it's not your bag): I love the juxtaposition of mundane reality with big name 4-color superheroics, case in point issue 4, the Dylan Battles story; it feels like a whole paradigm shift from standard-fare DCU stuff. I'm really happy swimming in all the little details and nuances Andreyko comes up with, and while there isn't much story in the first TPB, the entire series takes a slow burn so Andreyko can work in all these nuances where ultimately it's not so much individual story after individual story, it's Kate's story, and we learn a lot as she does. And speaking of Linda Fiorentino, that's the voice model I wind up using for Kate in my head, oddly enough.
When I was reading that TP ... by dregmobile	Sep 6th, 2006 12:14:12 AM
... all I wanted to do was re-write it. I can see why it's died. I don't know if comic runs are similar to the first 15 minutes of a film in terms of how crucial they are to get the reader/viewer hooked into the story ... but if that is the case, they can only blame themselves for such a weak opening. And saying I wish I could rewrite those issues, that's because, like you, I liked certain things about the character that made her unique. Just wish it was handled better. With so many titles around, I don't have the patience. But if I see a 2nd Manhunter trade I will give it another shot, coz there is potential. ***** Also looking to actually buy and read the Identity Crisis TP. If only so I'm prepped in some way for Meltzer's JLA run ...
... by blackthought	Sep 6th, 2006 12:46:06 AM

That's being a bit generous, blackthought. by dregmobile	Sep 6th, 2006 01:36:51 AM
I'd only give the Manhunter trade two stars.
Oh shit! by loodabagel	Sep 6th, 2006 09:46:49 AM
Any idea when BKV and Adrian A. are planning to leave Runaways? So I know when to start crying and such. To Dregmobile-I'd consider you an honarary civilian Cog, but I'd say the same thing about myself.
Wednesday mornings suck... by loodabagel	Sep 6th, 2006 10:00:47 AM
Everybody's waiting for the new talkback and I have no one to talk to! Arghh!
That reminds me... by loodabagel	Sep 6th, 2006 10:02:37 AM
Mdichlorians! Fuck! I fucking hate midichlorians! Motherfucker! They fucking suck!
Oh god... by loodabagel	Sep 6th, 2006 10:12:18 AM
I'm talkback masturbating. I hope nobody's watching.
And I'm not stopping until... by loodabagel	Sep 6th, 2006 10:14:03 AM
Somebody else shows up or the new talkback arrives, but that's gonna have to happen within the next ten minutes...
Dude... by loodabagel	Sep 6th, 2006 10:22:25 AM
I am so getting lst this week. Righteous, bro!
LAST! by loodabagel	Sep 6th, 2006 10:25:01 AM

I see you, looda!!! by The Heathen	Sep 6th, 2006 10:57:24 AM
put that thing away!!! LAST.
Fffuuuuuccckkkkk! by Shigeru	Sep 6th, 2006 11:39:18 AM
BKV and Alphona off Runaways? Man..... that sucks. WTF BKV U SUK!
what Shig said by The Heathen	Sep 6th, 2006 12:00:02 PM
I
It gets worse. The new X-Men group editor is by The Heathen	Sep 6th, 2006 12:06:14 PM
Axel Alonso.
axel alonso... by blackthought	Sep 6th, 2006 12:18:58 PM
another rogue
what if the replacement writer is by The Heathen	Sep 6th, 2006 12:20:40 PM
Whedon? I can see him working, but with AXM and Wonder Woman on his plate it's unlikely. Who else? Kirkman? He's writing a lot of stuff and I don't see that for some reason. Sean Mckeever?
I dunno if I can keep reading if it's not BKV/Alphona by Shigeru	Sep 6th, 2006 12:25:15 PM
I already cringe when there is an issue sans Alphona. He better pencil a high-profile book...
I mean so he can get steady work and good sales... by Shigeru	Sep 6th, 2006 12:32:47 PM
I have nothing against indies! Don't want to summon the Cormorant, Dave_F...
Lunchtime crunchtime... by loodabagel	Sep 6th, 2006 12:41:28 PM
I got my sights set on on Miyazawi and Kirkman. Both are coming off other books in the near future.
and just for the record by Shigeru	Sep 6th, 2006 12:51:39 PM
this TB is #2 on the site. and a week old. yeah we rule.
Miyazawi and Fantastic Four by The Heathen	Sep 6th, 2006 12:58:15 PM
Maybe on Spider-Man Loves MJ but whenever there is a Runaways issue with Miyazawi art it feels out of place. Maybe they'll keep Mike Norton for a smoother transition? I honestly don't know who would or could fill those shoes, but Whedon is the only one that I'd want to see do it if it's not BKV and Alphona. *** Did anyone see the FF show on Cartoon Network this weekend? I fugured I'd DVR and see what it was like and it makes the movie still look bad, but only now it had an animated companion to sit next to it. The Thing has a '4' logo (that's "edgier" btw) on his chest and Johnny looks like a character from any other anime movie or Final Fantasy game.
the Thing's dork is edgier by Shigeru	Sep 6th, 2006 01:10:14 PM
than mine.
Anybody see the leaked image for CW/Spider-Man? by The Heathen	Sep 6th, 2006 01:28:19 PM
It's what we thought would happen after his identity reveal. http://tinyurl.com/k5ooz Looks like a Turner variant cover.
Hey guys, check it out by El Vale	Sep 6th, 2006 01:33:40 PM
Bendis interviews Brad Meltzer. It's good reading, i promise http://tinyurl.com/gpjm9
Gah... by Thalya	Sep 6th, 2006 01:36:27 PM
And H, did you see the cover for 52 #19 just up on Newsarama?
Just saw it, T by The Heathen	Sep 6th, 2006 01:47:57 PM
Cool. Pope Lobo? Can't wait to see Brian Bolland draw Animal Man's origin too. Love Bolland. Now give me the thing you've won
If you can, please help...Gail thanks you by Psynapse	Sep 6th, 2006 01:51:55 PM
http://forum.newsarama.com/sho wthread.php?t=83100
Wait, what? Bolland? by El Vale	Sep 6th, 2006 02:13:35 PM
What happened?
That spidey image is a fake. by superhero	Sep 6th, 2006 02:55:15 PM
Millar said so on his site.
are we sure though? by The Heathen	Sep 6th, 2006 03:23:51 PM
I think not. Thing is, I don't even care at this point.
re:honarary civilian Cog by Darth Kal-El	Sep 6th, 2006 03:35:31 PM
that hits the nail pretty close to the head
TONY JAA ELBOW TO THE BASTARDS! by GreatA'Tuin	Sep 6th, 2006 03:38:49 PM
I'm not even that pissed about it, but someone in the Jaa interview TB mentioned a "Kung Fu the Series" movie. There's an idea whose time has passed.
That's awful, Psy by The Heathen	Sep 6th, 2006 03:42:47 PM
PayPal to the rescue!!!
Right ON, Heath.... by Psynapse	Sep 6th, 2006 05:00:53 PM
I have to wait until I get paid on friday but I'm sending her a few bucks too. I just have to wait until the end of October for my new car (Thank you mommy!), I can't imagine having to rebuild your LIFE.
And just think.. by Thalya	Sep 6th, 2006 05:02:47 PM
..if you got abducted to an alternate Earth.. Nah.. doesn't compare. :(
superhero by rev_skarekroe	Sep 6th, 2006 05:05:38 PM
Millar isn't always Mr. Trustworthy.
That said... by rev_skarekroe	Sep 6th, 2006 05:09:22 PM
...it looks fakish to me.
A Justice League of Their Own by BannedOnTheRun	Sep 6th, 2006 05:17:15 PM
Starring Rosie O'Donnell as Wonder Woman.
BannedOnTheRun.... by GreatA'Tuin	Sep 6th, 2006 05:26:02 PM
...you suck like a hoover can only dream. That's some fucked-up imagery right there. I would heckle you a second time, but i think living with an inner eye that can come up with that shit is a far, far worser fate. X^P
Then again..... by Psynapse	Sep 6th, 2006 05:50:50 PM
If Rosie's WW, then that would make Batman & Robin Rodney Dangerfield and Patton Oswald. How funny would that be? (Joker is Joan Rivers in this reality, naturally)
... by blackthought	Sep 6th, 2006 06:56:42 PM

Oh, I don't doubt that MJ or Aunt May is gonna bite it by superhero	Sep 6th, 2006 07:13:33 PM
I just think that particular image is a fake. Looks like it was taken from an old Spidey book or something.
Yeah. It'd be an underwhelming cover if it was real. by dregmobile	Sep 6th, 2006 07:58:54 PM
The moment I looked at it, I thought 'fake'. Also the first thing I think when looking in the mirror, but never mind ...
I wish I knew what this was from... by loodabagel	Sep 6th, 2006 09:32:51 PM
But, yeah, it looks quite fake. And probably not even a Turner cover. I know it's only one not too distinctive picture, but I'm thinking something more along the lines of Paul Pope or Kaare Andrews. It might be from one of the other Spidey titles. There's a new Mysterio running around in Friendly Neighborhood, so that seems like a fair bet.
Unless somebody else pops up in the night... by loodabagel	Sep 6th, 2006 09:40:59 PM
Looks like I get to say, yet again, LAST!
And lastly, by dregmobile	Sep 6th, 2006 09:45:48 PM
Thanks for the link to that Bendis/Meltzer intv, Vale. Very interesting read. Am now looking into how to purchase this elusive JLA Avengers crossover ...
Financially elusive, that is ... by dregmobile	Sep 6th, 2006 09:46:42 PM

your not getting last this week by Darth Kal-El	Sep 6th, 2006 09:54:40 PM
and u didnt last week either looda. the 'last' post has been a fiercely contested spot for over a year now with blackthought and absent cog in reserve gus nukem. gus would go post 'last' on columns MONTHS old. that was a tough fucking greek! where are u gus!
Yeah, I doubted it myself... by loodabagel	Sep 6th, 2006 09:59:50 PM
And I came across a last match a while back. I was googling something and came across an old one. I added a last a month or so after Gus. And maybe Gus is just time traveling now? Sounds like a sneaky dude.
Time Traveling! by Darth Kal-El	Sep 6th, 2006 10:44:32 PM
we didnt think of that though its highly possible knowing gus. just to give u an idea of how sneaky this dude is when the cogs first started getting together we all excahnged RL pictures to we could have an idea of who we were talking to. well gus send this link to some old greek guy and says its him. later he posts something saying 'thats not me thats a pedophile in greece who would dress up like a clown and molest kids' to this day we do not know for sure if that was indeed him or not. ahh good times! vale thinks hes dead. i would rather think hes off adventuring. so yeah time travel sounds good
"would dress up like a clown and molest kids" by El Vale	Sep 6th, 2006 11:21:25 PM
LOL! That totally made my...night. Crazy fucking greek...oh jesus, i just thought of something: What if that was really him and they caught him and he's in jail?! Not cool man, not cool.
No prob dreg by El Vale	Sep 6th, 2006 11:23:28 PM
Those Bendis interviews are great. Next week Bendis interviews Patton Oswalt, should be great. I love how Oswalt would just drop names like Bendis or Elijah Snow in talkshows...it made me feel proud.
molest indeed by blackthought	Sep 7th, 2006 02:03:16 AM

JLA... by Drcool975	Sep 7th, 2006 05:29:17 AM
was awful. I know the Vision and Red Tornado are contemporary characters with similar origins but the Vision is the infinitely more interesting of the two. And DC's black characters really suck and they always have. As a proud black man, I appreciate their attempts to incorporate diversity into the JLA but Black Lightning's introduction into the team comes off as nonsensical and forced. DC has always been way behind Marvel in terms of diversity and well-developed characters of color. And Benes weak David Finch ripoff is inconsistent and lacking in dynamic too.
Well at least.... by Psynapse	Sep 7th, 2006 08:43:06 AM
You get to be annoyed by the forced and nonsensical inclusion of a character from your social stratum.
Good morning, cogs and fellow not-so-cogs... by loodabagel	Sep 7th, 2006 10:14:08 AM
In a room with a few Myspace goons. The ones with really fancy looking pages. They really have nothing to say. They've got all this extra large conversations wher they say absolutley nothing! It pisses me off, man. Wasted potential if there ever was some. It's good to be here.
Natalie Portman is now my girlfriend by Shigeru	Sep 7th, 2006 10:22:14 AM
just to let you know. the wife is fine with it too.
that cover looks fakish becuase it IS a Turner cover by The Heathen	Sep 7th, 2006 11:14:39 AM
or not, doesn't matter really, because one way or another it's probably going to happen, even if a draw the cover. * Benes is better than Finch, but he also has a better colorist. * looda, explain to me your last post. I'm Lost. *** Speaking of which, did anybody pick up the second season yet? Maybe Shig did, but he's probably busy with Natalie.
Nat keeps a brother busy. by Shigeru	Sep 7th, 2006 11:24:16 AM
But I will start LOST Season 2 as soon as it comes in the mail. Apparently it's a birthday present from the inlaws that they haven't shipped yet... grumble
i saw it at the video store by Darth Kal-El	Sep 7th, 2006 01:30:14 PM
but i was daunted by the massive six disc-ness of it and decided to continue working my way through the superman animated show and samurai jack season 3. i dont think im ready to revisit the island just yet.man saints row is fun! i even got recruited into a gang online.i dont have the hear to tell them its only a rental and i wont be around to 'cap some fools' for too much longer
waits for answer by The Heathen	Sep 7th, 2006 01:42:38 PM
Ooh Samurai Jack. Love it. I feel ashamed for not having bought those gems yet. I did get the first season of Veronica Mars though. A lot of tv sets are going for $18 bucks, check it out. Y, in Saints Row you should go out in a blaze of glory and leave the gang wondering if you took it too literal. And man, I'm dying to go try that thing out that Shig showed us in Dead Rising. That was Mega Man's arm cannon thing right? If only we had his double jumping capabilities too!
i was thinking that would be funny by Darth Kal-El	Sep 7th, 2006 02:00:35 PM
then i can have all these dudes online pouring out virtual liquor for me. yeah that 60k thing looks awesome! man i love slaying zombies. and heath when are u going to get on live buddy? xbox live araced has such sweet games!
new columns up by Shigeru	Sep 7th, 2006 02:01:51 PM
psy: uh maybe? Heath: megaman never double jumped did he?
the double jump by The Heathen	Sep 7th, 2006 02:16:41 PM
in a manner of sense, yes, but not really. There was this code where if a person held the second controller and held down certain buttons (I think UP on the D-Pad and A+B) you could SUPER jump two to three times as high. So not technically a double jump ala Ghosts N Goblins, but cool none the less. Whew. *** Soon, Y, soon. We're looking to FINALLY get our house wired. I let you know.
btw by The Heathen	Sep 7th, 2006 02:17:13 PM
last.
last-ish by Shigeru	Sep 7th, 2006 02:25:16 PM
what would be better would be if you had the weapons from the bosses from Mega Man 2. Like the Metal Blade and ummmmm the BUBBLE LEAD!! That'll get them zombies!!
Metal Blade wold tear 'em up!!! by The Heathen	Sep 7th, 2006 03:10:46 PM
lasty?
"wold" jebus!!! by The Heathen	Sep 7th, 2006 03:38:36 PM
way to end it Heath. LAST.
wtf by Darth Kal-El	Sep 7th, 2006 03:41:12 PM
i cant see the new column!
Here it comes... by loodabagel	Sep 8th, 2006 09:31:58 AM
Last.
C'mon man... by loodabagel	Sep 12th, 2006 09:53:20 AM
It's just a little friendly competition.
goal by blackthought	Sep 13th, 2006 06:18:04 PM
...um...goal.
goooooooooooooooal... by loodabagel	Sep 14th, 2006 09:57:27 AM
Now I am the one who has scored a goal.
... by blackthought	Sep 17th, 2006 01:25:57 PM
...
... by loodabagel	Sep 18th, 2006 10:22:42 AM
... yourself, sucka. I am the throne usurper of lasting.
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... by loodabagel	Oct 3rd, 2006 09:20:40 AM
Who do you think you are?
... . by dregmobile	Oct 5th, 2006 01:27:59 AM
READ IT AND WEEP!
... .. by loodabagel	Oct 6th, 2006 09:55:55 AM
... ...
Other readers saw in the by jaxnnux	Oct 8th, 2006 06:05:48 PM
Other readers saw in the novella echoes of Charles Darwin, who earlier in the century had challenged the long-held religious belief in God’s creation of the universe. Darwin had claimed that life-forms developed as a result of evolution, the extremely slow and gradual changes species underwent in response to their environments. Gone was the certainty of the religious model of life. It was replaced by social Darwinism, a radical new conception of life as a struggle in which only the fittest survived. Some readers considered Hyde to be a model of the strong yet evil individual who would survive while Jekyll fell. Hyde was the natural man, free of the civilizing influences of society and religion. Stevenson himself had received an extremely strict religious upbringing, which emphasized sin and the punishments of hell. He seems to have reacted against this upbringing, and the conflict between religion and science probably interested him greatly. Still other readers found in Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde a reflection of the new ideas about the workings of the human mind. A Viennese doctor named Sigmund Freud had begun the investigations that would lead him to create psychoanalysis, a method of analyzing psychic phenomena and treating emotional disorders. Freud believed that human beings are powerfully influenced by impulses of which they are not aware and which are often expressed in dreams. To many readers, Hyde represented Dr. Jekyll’s subconscious desire to be freed from his society’s restrictions.
Fascinating, but i'd like to add the following: by dregmobile	Oct 9th, 2006 01:51:28 AM
... ... .

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