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ANIME AICN - Fullmetal Alchemist: The Conqueror of Shamballa

Yep by Hige-sama	Aug 27th, 2006 07:53:10 PM
I agree. A huge letdown.
remember when Naruto was good? by Gay Jesus Christ	Aug 27th, 2006 07:59:05 PM
I think it totally got fucked after the first 26 episodes. That's like 100 + episoded of utter filler crap afterwards. How the fuck did they destroy the story so badly?
Now see... by cannedpasta	Aug 27th, 2006 08:49:01 PM
I thought that the movie tied up the whole series pretty good. And as far as Naruto, it's good up until ep 136, where they start the filler crap for 60+ episodes (it's on 108 right now, and supposedly the fillers end on 199) to allow for the manga to get farther ahead.
----zombies!!---- by kidjingo	Aug 27th, 2006 09:00:22 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Azo 8heDmNoQ#
re: Shamballa (and the last half of the show) sucks by ScottGreen	Aug 27th, 2006 09:36:06 PM
It seems to me that the Fullmetal Alchemist works percisely because they did invent a story that they could complete, even if it did diverge from the manga. While not perfect, the narative beats ouy plenty of other, far more disorganized manga based action anime.
The show doesn't suck for diverging from the manga by Harrierthanthee	Aug 28th, 2006 02:15:00 AM
I saw some episodes of the show before I even knew it was based on a manga (which I've never read). And I've seen most of the episodes, and I believe that the later ones are just as good wth new complications and resolutions that make sense. They do seem a bit different, but that's cool because it gets deeper into the mythology, characters, and philosophy of the show. So, since the show's alright, and if you think the manga's good, I'd say it's a good thing that the two have diferent storylines so that you might enjoy both the anime and the manga and find them both original. I still haven't seen the movie
I've never seen FMA by veritasses	Aug 28th, 2006 09:59:54 AM
but I take it that it's generally considered to be among the top entertaining anime series and is well worth seeing? Btw, the last two story arcs of the Naruto series weren't all that bad. Not great, but definitley better then the usual crappy filler episodes. And any truth to the rumors that the Naruto filler episodes are going to end? Judging by the episode titles http://tinyurl.com/g8dt9 the fillers don't appear to end at 199.
The thing with FMA... by Johnno	Aug 28th, 2006 01:33:43 PM
I've seen the series and movie and am currently following the manga. In my opinion, FMA does deserve all the good word of mouth it's generated... Based on a manga with fresh ideas, it's really something unlike you've ever really seen in anime before! The humor, characters and complexity all work very well! The series follow the manga pretty much directly up to around episode 30 I think... and I'd agree that the series tightens things up and paces things far better than the manga up to that point that it even surpasses it! Even the made up episodes after that, rather than relying on filler etc. actually continue on and seek to grow and resolve the mysteries within the series! It is great throughout and I'd even agree is better than the manga even now... however... where I feel the series loses me is directly at the very last episode when it suddenly introduces this whole new world (supposedly ours) and ends the way it does... I was very unsatisfied with it (and I hadn't begun reading the manga at that point). I was glad to know there was a movie releasing, but even after seeing Shambala, I'm still disappointed with the ending... It's not that it's necessarily bad, but the whole story just feels incomplete... picking up where the manga's going, it continues in a totally new direction and even as genrei said, begins to unravel more things about what made the show interesting... the alchemy, the role of the military, the homonculi, Al and Ed's bodies (particularly why Ed is short being related to alchemy), Winry's role, the Philosopher's stone, other countries and their forms of Alchemy, Ed's father etc. and it looks like it will go on for a good deal longer... I guess I just want a more satisfying conclusion which is why I'm following the manga and I certainly do hope that there'll be more for the series/movie version of FMA rather than just end it at that point, because after Shambala, you just leave with the feeling that aside from Ed and Al, the other characters seem worse off and never reach their intended goals. Because that's what makes FMA so great! It's not just the lovable main characters, but their solid cast as well, both villians and friends, and you want to see more solid resolution for them over an arc of time rather than just underusing them as plot devices in the film, even their alternate reality 'clones' don't satisfy like the 'originals.' I don't mind if the series/film remains different from the manga, but I want more finality to it...
Is FMA "done"? by veritasses	Aug 28th, 2006 02:22:15 PM
As in the author stopped writing the manga and there are no plans to continue the anime or manga except an occasional movie/OVA?
re: Is FMA "done"? by ScottGreen	Aug 28th, 2006 04:04:42 PM
The manga is still ongoing. Beyond the TV and movie, the anime has a few cutesy short OVA's that FUNimation hasn't licensed yet. And I think some video games follow the anime continuity. I wouldn't be shocked if more anime comes out at some point, but none are announced and the TV series itself is able to stand alone well. The movie just makes an interesting epilogue.
Where's the Hentai? by Ricky Henderson	Aug 29th, 2006 08:37:29 AM
This column is awful. Just kill it please.
Thanks for the info Scott, by veritasses	Aug 29th, 2006 10:15:20 AM
I'll put that series on my "try to see" list. Though at 51 episodes it'll probably be easier to find/get into the manga over the TV series.
Gedo Senki by veritasses	Aug 29th, 2006 10:17:33 AM
Forgot to mention, it looks like Gedo Senki is doing pretty well in the theatres. A few more weeks at #1 and it should make it over to this side of the world for sure.
For all the bad reviews of Gedo Senki by Johnno	Aug 29th, 2006 11:08:29 AM
It is doing quite well, and the bad reviews seem to mainly be in Japan, so I figure they are still carrying the whole weight of all that gossip between father and son into the theatre. Though one can understand where Hayao is coming from, as Ghibli is a very well revered studio and it's not a great idea to hand over a large scale project to a first timer... Anime News Network gave Gedo Senki a pretty decent review, and of course we can expect some faults from a first time director, but overall it sounds like good viewing although for the most part the creator of Earthsea commented that the movie has practically nothing in common to her books and is it's own story... I've never read the book so it should be alright for me. Some are wondering if Disney will release this film under it's own label or Miramax's as it's supposed to contain some degree of violence on par with Princess Mononoke. That's what I heard anyway...
re: Gedo Senki by ScottGreen	Aug 29th, 2006 04:35:29 PM
Well, since Sci-Fi Channel has the rights until '09, we they have a few years to figure out what to do with the release. On the other hand, IF the Japanese R2 DVD release had English subtitles, it wouldn't be the first Ghibli movie to include that feature. Personally, if Ghibli was going to put out something less magical than Hayao Miyazaki's work, I'd rather have something with some interesting technique, like Cat Returns, than the what seems to be very conventional Gedo Senki (I haven't seen it).
re: Sci Fi by veritasses	Aug 29th, 2006 06:52:12 PM
Is it me, or did I see WWF Wrestling on the SciFi channel the other night???? WT... F? They must have the same execs over on the Cartoon Network running that taco stand. I guess that means there's a good chance they'll bungle the Gedo rights. Personally, I don't mind seeing a more commercial/theatrical anime as long as it's entertaining and has something going for it. I think it must have been tough to have a genius/industry God as a dad and hope Goro is able to establish his career and his own voice and style over time. And I'm sure that at the very least, the Ghibli animators will come through with some quality work.
I've never read the Manga by CrichtonAstronut	Aug 30th, 2006 10:40:43 AM
but,I loved the Fullmetal Alchemist anime. The showdown between Ed and Sloath was sad and brilliant. The history between Dante and threir father. Mustang's battle with Pride. I thought the leading to the enbding and the ending itself was very satisfying. I agree with others. Mayes Hughes was a favorite character of mine too. I sorry to see him die, but Ithought they handled his death and its effects on the other characters well. And I too wish that the Cartoon Network would focus more on their anime, and there is certainly no excuse for SciFi airing WWF Wrestling.
[SPOILER] - FMA: CoS by Silverado	Sep 15th, 2006 10:45:29 AM
I was lucky enough to get a copy of the Japanese version from a friend. I did enjoy it, and although I was disappointed with not finding out what happened with Mustang's situation, I was, overall, pleased by the movie. If handled right, another sequel could be done. However, I believe that what has kept FMA close to the viewers hearts is the fact that the series was never dragged out like so many others. I just wish that more theatres here in the states would be more willing to show anime movies in general, i.e., more locations other that the coasts.

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