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1st Animatic of Michael Bay's TRANSFORMERS robot!!!

First!!!!! by kwisatzhaderach	Aug 5th, 2006 04:38:12 PM

Hmmm by kwisatzhaderach	Aug 5th, 2006 04:40:35 PM
Cheesy but could be kind of fun. Lets hope it's the Michael Bay of The Rock and not the Michael Bay of Pearl Harbour.
damn I was so close to first.. by rubensreviews	Aug 5th, 2006 04:40:55 PM
must....be ...quicker
wow. exciting by erockwilly	Aug 5th, 2006 04:44:43 PM
nothing like some Michael Bay pre-vis to get your heart pumpin'.
Marketing puff Piece by CrayonPie	Aug 5th, 2006 04:44:46 PM
Why must everything become a bs "on message" marketing dept sanctioned piece? It really takes the life out of "discovering" cool things!
There is hope by Superneal	Aug 5th, 2006 04:46:40 PM
Talk about being in its infancy stages.
Eh. by hargon27	Aug 5th, 2006 04:47:35 PM
Wow... an over-the-shoulder shot of the animatic. Thats almost as shitty as the phone-camera footage of the Spider-Man 3 comic-con trailer that keeps popping up.
All firsties get the Gom Jabbar! by crazyeyezkillah	Aug 5th, 2006 04:48:32 PM
Because they deserve it.
Dont bother! it ends before they show the animatic! by CrayonPie	Aug 5th, 2006 04:49:27 PM
Jesus fucking christ! This clip doesnt even show the animatic except on a rinky dink on-set monitor over dullard Michael bays shoulder! Dont bother!
Lets get someone on the set! by CrayonPie	Aug 5th, 2006 04:51:52 PM
C'mon AICN get sonme of that fire back! Lets get a rag tag team of spies onto these sets. It can all be on the QT hush hush! Whatya say! Im available! I wanna infiltrate these blowhards securtiy bs. Fuck the marketing depts! Take it back before its too late!
More than meets the eye!! by DigitalDong	Aug 5th, 2006 04:56:41 PM
way better then "their war our world". Fucking lame.
ROBOTS IN THE SKY!!! by JohnGalt06	Aug 5th, 2006 05:18:39 PM

Old by DrTobiasFunke	Aug 5th, 2006 05:20:14 PM
I posted this 5 hours ago :p
would rather see Aquqman or by Darth_Baltar	Aug 5th, 2006 05:22:47 PM
at least another episode of Entourage... must... make... it... till... Sunday
Looks like... by Mr Nice Gaius	Aug 5th, 2006 05:25:33 PM
Bumblebee sweeping the legs of Brawl or whoever is supposed to be the Decepticon cop car.
WooooooooooooooooooooW!!!!! by chickychow	Aug 5th, 2006 05:29:00 PM
Just kidding... this isn't news. this is nothing. thanks for nothing.
Fuck This Shit by plissken77	Aug 5th, 2006 05:34:22 PM
Micheal Bay is going to destroy Transformers. It started with Optimus not being a flat nose Mack truck. This is going to suck balls. Roland Emerich should have directed it. "nuff said.
Megan Fox... in the whole clip by nef	Aug 5th, 2006 05:59:08 PM
in the full clip, she is FUCKING HOT OMG OMGOmg, wow, i would see this movie just for her :) And to plissken above, plz go suck a dick then maybe you'll stop fucking whining, we are all sick of the whining, don't like it, dont see it, idc
this is a shiT by JudgeNXcutioner	Aug 5th, 2006 06:04:21 PM
must contribute to another Transformers talkback being most visited TB!
2.7 seconds of a camera shooting a tv by digital8	Aug 5th, 2006 06:10:44 PM

That was gay! by AndrewWanKenobi	Aug 5th, 2006 06:14:43 PM
I hate this movie, already. For cryin' out loud. Just show us something substantial and put are minds at ease.
Megan Fox nubs by troutpencil	Aug 5th, 2006 06:24:59 PM
I have been prescient of her hottiness for years now, goddamn noobs just discovering it now piss me off. I want her anus hole to choke the life out of my penis.
Looks Awesome! by Mr. Lahey	Aug 5th, 2006 06:26:05 PM
Just picturing a giant got-damn robot swatting that car aside gave me a long, rubbery one.
And Sweet Jesus... by Mr. Lahey	Aug 5th, 2006 06:30:30 PM
...Megan Fox.
What's wrong with whining? by Hairy Nutsack	Aug 5th, 2006 06:57:27 PM
Isn't that the correct way to enjoy your AICN experience, bitching and moaning about anything and everything? At least no one has brought up the F or S words in a while.(and no I'm not talking about swear words) Anyway, WTF is this shit anyway? This is the kind of crap I would expect at ComicCon, not released as some kind of a preview we are all supposed to oooh and ahhh over. I wanna see an animatic of Hillbilly Prime getting super drunk on Energon whiskey and getting those flame tattoos just before he gets date raped by Deliverance Megatron. "Squeeeel like a brake pad boy!!"
Forget the animatic, I'm watching this for Megan Fox! by J-Dizzle	Aug 5th, 2006 07:05:09 PM
She's a Hottie McHottie!!!!!!!
I still see Toys: The Movie by Goofyboy777	Aug 5th, 2006 07:05:54 PM

Interesting...... by Doc_Strange	Aug 5th, 2006 07:25:16 PM
If you look closely, you see the original Optimus Prime in the background behind Bay. Now why the fuck aren't we getting that? Is is so fucking hard? Is he fucking blind? The answer to this movie is right behind him, shit. Stupid people really piss me off.
GOBOTS Are Awesome! by ZombieSolutions	Aug 5th, 2006 07:33:23 PM
watch out, here comes Cy-Kill! Did I ever tell you about Pillow Pants?
who cares by Scarlett'sACups	Aug 5th, 2006 07:35:56 PM

I care by Colonel Kane	Aug 5th, 2006 07:36:57 PM

Could this load any slower? by Mechasheeva	Aug 5th, 2006 07:42:15 PM
No. No it could not.
Theeeeere we go by Mechasheeva	Aug 5th, 2006 07:46:22 PM
Looks better than I expected, but my hopes for this one remain low.
Doc_Strange..... by Hairy Nutsack	Aug 5th, 2006 08:03:59 PM
Wha? All I see is Bay's back, where is Prime?
Nairy Nutsack by chiahead	Aug 5th, 2006 08:10:27 PM
Towards the end of the segment, when Bay is saying he let his mind "go wild in creating some of these, these, these, interesting things" there's an enlarged birthday card (probably custom made) of a Pat Lee G1 Optimus Prime from the Dreamwave comics, and in the Armada font, says "Happy Birthday" on it.
'scuse me, Hairy Nutsack, not Nairy... by chiahead	Aug 5th, 2006 08:12:07 PM

Best part : Megan Fox's tanned and supple cleavage. by IAmJack'sUserID	Aug 5th, 2006 08:16:29 PM
Sorry. Michael Bay = Suck. Proven equation.
Wow that looks terrible....... by Spiderhulk	Aug 5th, 2006 08:34:51 PM
I love how they showed bad boys II, Armageddon, and Pearl Harbour as part of his resume..... The island was about a 100 times better than those three combined. You let your "mind go wild" eh michael bay? That's for sure. You let it go cat poop wild. That's the last thing I wanted to hear from a director with something as fan based as Trasformers.... but I have to admit I liked what I saw of Optimus so far on that computer screen (when I say like I mean ya it has the general feeling of optimus, but there's about a billion hours they're going to have to put into that rendering to live up to even the layperson's expecations out there) If that forklift was supposed to be the hand of a transformer then I'm going to be angry. Oh ya and Megan Fox is hot, but she looks really trashy. Another hollywood Actress that lucked out doing blockbusters, instead of porn. (Then again god knows who's member she toyed with to get that part) Optimus: "Megan Fox you will proceed with dismantling your undergarments" Megan: "ooooohhhhh Optimus its so big" Optimus: "take it like a deceptacon human. " NO FLAMES NO FLAMES NO FLAMES NO FLAMES NO FLAMES NO FLAMES NO FLAMES NO FLAMES NO FLAMES NO FLAMES NO FLAMES NO FLAMES NO FLAMES ON OPTIMUS
I think Nairy is better. by butnugget	Aug 5th, 2006 08:35:22 PM

Damage Control... by veritasses	Aug 5th, 2006 09:02:59 PM
With all the negative feedback that movie's been getting, that Access Hollywood spot was probably to try to win over some fans or at least put them at ease. If that were the case, they should've shown us something with a bit more substance. That's not enough to change anyone's opinion. Other than that, Megan Fox is HOT. And Access Hollywood/ET/Extra/E!/etc hosts are all celeb-wanna-be turds.
I love how you've already declared this movie a failure by Angry Mean Panda	Aug 5th, 2006 09:20:39 PM
because Optimus it's a COE (and really, you don't ever fucking see COE rigs on the interstate anymore.) and because you saw a .5 second animatic. Bay makes bad movies, but Bay doesn't make Uwe Boll bad movies. Bay makes movies that are all spectacle and no thought, and that's what Transformers is. Those of you acting like he's desecrating some classic work of fiction are fucking retarded. It's a franchise about robots that turn into vehicles, and THAT IS THE FUCKING APPEAL. You will get that, and it will look good. Those of you ragging on it for being a "toy movie" on the other hand, need to learn to fucking turn your brain off once in a while. What, you want Schindler's List with fucking robots? Not every movie has to be deep with some message. Sometimes it's ok to go watch giant robots beat the shit out of each other for two hours. Fuck you all.
to jack colby by nef	Aug 5th, 2006 09:40:55 PM
well i am sick of fucking whining bitches like you, its like the one note of Aicn, and no i am not a fanboy, but guess what this is still the transformers movie out there and i will see it just cause it's cool. Who gives a fuck what kind of truck, all matters is the end truck, if u want teh same shit go watch the cartoons and don't watch movie, it will still make a ton and doesnt need YOU
With such talent involved, what are we thinking? by IAmJack'sUserID	Aug 5th, 2006 09:45:48 PM
How dare we assume this movie will most likely be crap. I mean...it has Michael Fucking Bay directing and stars fucking Tyrese, with a guest appearance by fucking Dane Cook. Oh, and it's fucking written by the same fucking fucker that wrote Cat fucking Woman. Fucking Oscar fucking winning box fucking office fucking blowing-away fucking fucker of a fucking movie.
Don't MINCE words, IAmJack'sUserID... by paulh	Aug 5th, 2006 10:05:00 PM
What do you really think?
Harry make a new site by Drworm2002	Aug 5th, 2006 10:25:26 PM
call it Aint it News. Then you can put shit like this on that site. Cuase it's really not cool. I waited 2 mins to see 3 secs of nothing.
GIANT ROBOTS!!! by blackwood	Aug 5th, 2006 10:56:52 PM
I don't need everything I watch to edify me. I'm cool if Transformers doesn't constitute a timely statement on our fossil fuel dependance, or teach me to love rainbows and cancer patients.
Once again...we see nothing by sith-vol	Aug 5th, 2006 11:12:57 PM
Yet everyone is surprised. Why? Bay has shown us nothing and continues to go to great lengths to show us nothing. We all bitch and moan about it and call him a no talent turdburglar, but I will gaurendamnedteee that almost everyone who is bitching will go and see this supposed train wreck the first week its out. I also bet we will all get that really cool "wow what a letdown cause these things look like low budget crap not Transformers" feeling while watching and then we will remember that Speilberg was responsible for War of the Worlds and we will all realize our pockets are empty at the exact same moment and we will all slap our foreheads and go "D'oh!" so loud that it will shift the orbit of the moon and it will crash into the earth and kill us all. So enjoy next 11 moths...they will be our last.
almost got through the whole thing without a typo by sith-vol	Aug 5th, 2006 11:14:38 PM
"months"...damnit!
Oh shit on my left knee by WolfmanNards	Aug 5th, 2006 11:22:58 PM
do people watch hollywood access? In thaclip I wanted to strangle that fake-ass host. I'm gonna type out all of his cutesy little puns onto a sheet of paper which I will jam down his throat, then as his death rattle emits from his smug body, I will capture it in a jar, and place it on my mantleplace as a prized trophy.
Im gonna get congress to pass a new law by WolfmanNards	Aug 5th, 2006 11:32:38 PM
That allows me to stab the eyes out of anybody that says "All of the people who complain about this movie are still gonna see it" There are like 5 statements that will always be repeated in every talkback, and thats one of them. Im sharpening my knife for when congress passes the law. Prepare for blindness, you bitch flakes.
WolfmanNards by Datascream	Aug 5th, 2006 11:43:59 PM
You wanna stab their eyes out why? Because it's true? Get over it.
Worthless clip by mascan	Aug 6th, 2006 12:02:50 AM
So we watched that whole thing just to see 2 seconds of animated storyboards viewed from over Michael Bay's shoulder? The only thing worth seeing in that clip was Megan Fox's tits.
Megan Fox = Instant wood by Det. John Kimble	Aug 6th, 2006 12:09:43 AM
WTF is she doing with 90120 dude? He must have a huge schlong.
fuck transformers by isildur29	Aug 6th, 2006 12:21:57 AM
i want megan fox to transform her clothes into a bed and lay me down on it and ride me til morning
Michael Bay is a no talent hack... by The Atomic Worm	Aug 6th, 2006 01:07:44 AM
...and I will get with Megan Fox anytime, anywhere, anyplace. That is all.
Michael Bay lol by IAmJack'sUserID	Aug 6th, 2006 01:29:30 AM
Michael Bay lol
I think I was next to a Transformers set all day by KCMOSHer	Aug 6th, 2006 01:31:17 AM
Something was shooting in Van Nuys in the big park up there off Woodley. I was at a wedding in the Japanese Gardens, and on the way up they had half of Woodley blocked off and traffic re-routed. Lots of police presence both guiding traffic and apparently running security. I'm guessing it was Transformers because I saw at least one Humvee on the set and a Cobra attack chopper (the last gen of attack choppers, not the newer Apache) buzzing the area. The Cobra was painted in a desert motif, as was the Humvee (despite a nearby National Guard Armory fully stocked with green/forest paint jobs) and had full missile and weapons pods, not something you -ever- see over metro areas. I'm guessing it was Transformers because I know they've been on the Universal lot right down the 101, and I know they're shooting desert action scenes with military, courtesy of Quint here. The set direction sign (always cryptic, for those not here in Hollyweird) said 'Niver'for what that's worth. Curious to know if I could have snooped around and caught some action.
it ain't much... by Deadwood Dan	Aug 6th, 2006 01:41:23 AM
...and it's barely a start. when's Bay gonna give us somethig substantial. that'll probably be in the next teaser trailer. with some yellow paint on it.
Mean Panda- couldn't agree with you more by ScienceMan	Aug 6th, 2006 02:07:12 AM
if you were a girl i'd ask you to marry me, if i weren't already married. when i see this movie, if anyone complains that it doesn't have enough character development, i will punch them in the mouth. I think if anything the greatest danger to a movie like this is treating it with any degree of seriousness or trying to give it a believable plot. It's about giant robots in disguise (as vehicles). That is the only draw. I will see this movie because I was born in 1974 and my inner ten-year old demands that I see this movie. I am not going to see this movie saying to myself "Gee, I sure hope this has a riveting and cohesive plot and is a character/dialog driven intellectual piece along the lines of My Dinner with Andre." I'd be happy if this movie had no dialog and was just autobots and decepticons slugging it out in glorious CGI. And yes you luddites, CGI is glorious and those of you that have nostalgia for an age that never existed of wholesome hand-crafted effects, blow my goat.
WTF was with the 'old' film? by half vader	Aug 6th, 2006 02:51:18 AM
Maybe I'm missing something really obvious to Transformer fanboys, but why on Earth did they treat the behind-the-scenes video with the distressed film filter? Anyone? Also, I can't finish this post without saying Le Boofhead sucks with every one-note performance he gives. Annoying little fucker. Does his character die in that scene? Pleasepleaseplease.
Crazyeyezkillah by kwisatzhaderach	Aug 6th, 2006 03:03:03 AM
"I have felt your Gom Jabbar! Now feel mine!"
hatemphd by kwisatzhaderach	Aug 6th, 2006 03:03:53 AM
I hate to tell you but the very fact you're on this website makes you a geek!!!!
Wow, it's a Nintendo 64 game footage! by JackPumpkinhead	Aug 6th, 2006 04:13:58 AM
So great. By the way, Shia la whatever + Victor Salva, is this true?
Surprised that AICN hasn't been demanded to remove this by Jim Jam Bongs	Aug 6th, 2006 04:18:47 AM
Lately, it seems like any scoop (images) that this site has revealed has been ordered removed by the producers, and AICN has dutifully complied.
Spike Must Breed by DOGSOUP	Aug 6th, 2006 04:31:08 AM
Generation 2 wills it to be so....
Not a lot to see in the clip...... by mattyholmes	Aug 6th, 2006 05:41:31 AM
so can't really judge how good it's going to look. Hopefully we should start getting some real good pics in next few months. Feed your obsession - www.obsessedwithfilm.com
What a fucking coincedence. Another unrecognizable bot. by Horseflesh	Aug 6th, 2006 06:01:41 AM
You're not getting a DIME out of me yet, Bay.
Join The Operation by Limey_the	Aug 6th, 2006 06:29:59 AM
http://www.operationcompleteba stard.com
Good ole pre-vis..... by Archduke_Chocula	Aug 6th, 2006 06:42:00 AM
You don't know what the hell is going on but you get to feel like you're being spoiled. http://k105.blogspot.com/
The real reason they changed Optimus Prime's look by Mattapooh	Aug 6th, 2006 07:02:19 AM
It's really pretty obvious, Bay didn't want people seeing a flat-nosed truck and thinking "Hey, remember Terminator 2? That was way better than this piece of cheese."
old news? by lolol	Aug 6th, 2006 07:33:08 AM
http://www.3dblasphemy.com/OPT IMUS/OPTIMUS.html this has been around for at least a couple months; renders of the actual optimus with a render/composite test movie at the bottom. (get the high-res one, well worth the download) This shouldnt be news, but judging from the sheer number of people who feel the need to complain about not seing something worthwhile in a shitty Access Hollywood piece, it is. Do some research before you start your bitchfests.
lolol by Thumper2k1	Aug 6th, 2006 07:59:18 AM
and if you did some research you would have realized those renders are not from the movie. It's completely fan made.
WEAK!!!! by alienindisguise	Aug 6th, 2006 08:23:09 AM
I think I'll just steer clear of any shit like this and just wait for the damn movie to come out. I'm sure the finished movie will piss me off but seeing petty crap like this leading up to it will just piss me off even more.
Headcheese by ArkadyRenko	Aug 6th, 2006 09:11:33 AM
"Lets hope it's the Michael Bay of The Rock and not the Michael Bay of Pearl Harbour." ------ There is not much diference between the Michael Bay of The Rock and The Michael Bay of Pearl Harbor! Both sucks ass!
"I'm not trying to reivent it, just adding new things." by scrivener	Aug 6th, 2006 09:13:24 AM
...like lots and lots of product placement, a story written by his 12 year old son, and so many worthless action scenes that there's no room left for plot or character development. Fuck Micheal Bay.
I was really worried before, but after seeing THAT, by CreasyBear	Aug 6th, 2006 09:13:39 AM
I have complete confidence that this movie will rock. Phew! Glad I saw a blocky, early-80's Atari style, 2-second clip of what might be a big robot. Fears relieved!
"Fuck Micheal Bay" by ArkadyRenko	Aug 6th, 2006 09:28:32 AM
I wanted somebody to say this before i did, so that i can be part of the bandwagon. FUCK MICHAEL BAY!!!!!
Shit clip.... by C Legion	Aug 6th, 2006 09:29:56 AM
from a film based on a cartoon made to sell toys to kids, directed by a vacuous twat who personifies all that is bad about Hollywood filmmaking. How exciting.
CRAZY IDEA!! by tile_mcgillus	Aug 6th, 2006 10:08:23 AM
I am going to let my imagination run wild here.....Set the movie in 1984! OMG! I know its crazy but it just might work. Then you can play on the 80s nostalgia and the vehicles can be the original G1 designs and looked futuristuc and retro! Isn't that such a fucking crazy idea. But who the fuck am I to act like I know more about the Transformers then some asshole named Michael Bay who ruins everything he touches...!!
Quote by deanamatronix	Aug 6th, 2006 10:15:39 AM
I let my mind go wild creating some of these these these... things. Doesn't exactly inspire confidence. Why did they let this douche near the film?!
Or maybe not by ArkadyRenko	Aug 6th, 2006 10:29:20 AM
Since Mixhael Bay turns everythign he touches into shit, maybe he actually proves the auteur theory right, but in reverse. He's more like an anti-auteur, or better said, he's an anti-talent, a black hole that sucks quality and the life out of everything he works on.
AICN's fire gone? by johnnykool	Aug 6th, 2006 10:43:49 AM
Do the guys at AICN seem to have lost the fire that once drove them to bring us the most exclusive controversial information available for the movies we're anticipating? They're getting scooped by all the other sites these days and the biggest piece they bring us this weekend is a horrible video of pre-pre-pre Transformers on a tiny viewing monitor. Come on guys! Where's the group we once loved? We depend on you for the big news and lately it's been fluff pieces.
BAY SMASHES THE TOYS OF A GENERATION by ArkadyRenko	Aug 6th, 2006 10:54:42 AM

WHERE DID HE GOT THOSE CRAPPY TOYS? by ArkadyRenko	Aug 6th, 2006 10:55:24 AM

TRANSFORMERS DOESN'T TRANSFORM BAY by ArkadyRenko	Aug 6th, 2006 10:56:34 AM

A TOY MOVIE: TOO MUCH TO ASK, MR BAY? by ArkadyRenko	Aug 6th, 2006 10:57:45 AM

NOW I KNOW WHO BROKE MY TOYS!!! by ArkadyRenko	Aug 6th, 2006 10:59:43 AM

Michael Bay by AlabamaBaron	Aug 6th, 2006 11:46:34 AM
i like Michael Bay, to me he is one of the best things about american cinema. I'll agree that Pearl Harbour was garbage. but The Rock, The Island and Bad Boys 2, were the shit. His movies are always action packed and the SFX are always stellar. I'm sorry but every film does not need substance. Its like yall want Transformers to be Gone With The Wind. As long as he blows up as much shit as possible and continues to throw cool gunfights and car chases into his films i will be an avid supporter.
The Rock & Armageddon were incredible! by ganymede2010	Aug 6th, 2006 11:58:38 AM
These are some of my favorite movies of all time? How can you think the story about Mason Storm sucked? Or the intense drama and superb acting in Armageddon. Everyone that I personally know love those fucking movies. When I saw both of them in the Theater the audience was highly entertained. Michael Bay has enough Fans. He doesn't need any disgruntled talkbackers approval for anything. Because he will deliver on this movie!
Michael Bay makes movies by Mechasheeva	Aug 6th, 2006 12:28:19 PM
that are big, loud, and explodey. The only film he's done that had anything approaching real characters and drama in it was The Rock, and that's mostly due to the quality of the actors he was working with. Armageddon was mindless and overwrought, Bad Boys II was stupid and mindless, but it had its moments. I haven't seen The Island so I can't speak to that, but I actually think that if someone's gonna make enjoyable cinema out of 2+ hours of CGI robot rumbles, Michael Bay has as good a chance as anyone . . . it just won't be a scifi masterpiece. It'll be big, dumb, explodey fun.
Bay's Coca-Cola ad sentimentality by Tall_Boy	Aug 6th, 2006 12:39:47 PM
will ofset the explodey, though. I've only liked The Rock from all of this movies, that was was minimal mass-audience goo, and had interesting characters. Everything else has been directorial excess, so I choose to remain on the fence for one. The handheld shot in the transformers transforming previs was pretty nifty, though. Very War of the Worlds.
The most interesting thing about that clip is... by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 6th, 2006 12:46:50 PM
how Bay seems to think that he created the Transformers.
You're probably right, QTN by johnnykool	Aug 6th, 2006 12:57:07 PM
I've been a regular visitor to the site since nearly the very first post, and over the last year or two it seems Harry and the gang post about nothing unless it's sanctioned by the studio/director/whomever. I remember the good ol' days when I could come here and damn near find the entire script/plot/whatever for a movie. A fanboy's dream has become a talkbacker's nightmare. PS: I have no hope for this movie except hearing Peter Cullen's voice again.
They could probably collect all those animatics... by Johnno	Aug 6th, 2006 01:05:50 PM
And weave them together into another 3D cartoon show!
WHY WELKER should be MEGATRON. by BRUTICUS	Aug 6th, 2006 01:13:35 PM
interesting tidbit about Frank Welker AKA: Megatron: http://www.the-numbers.com/peo ple/records/stars1990.html
Excitement over a Bay film... by Bong	Aug 6th, 2006 01:52:50 PM
oh how easily do geeks forget the past...
Wha?... by Dollar Bird	Aug 6th, 2006 02:49:39 PM
"Dark" Vader?
Megan Fox would be hot in another world... by The Shyster	Aug 6th, 2006 03:26:42 PM
if she was'nt tainted by the disease known as Brian Austin Green. I'd sooner fuck Susan Sarandon, raw-dog. = )
crap crap crap crap mega crap crap crap. by W3bzpinn3r	Aug 6th, 2006 03:48:45 PM
crap crap crap crap mega crap crap crap. This movie should NEVER have been greenlit, and is another case of insane merchandizing greed.
Stop using ET behind the scenes crap by cabbageheat	Aug 6th, 2006 04:36:53 PM
sorry but their ridiculous commentary and sugar coated approach at behind the scenes footage is just trash. they are "drive-bye shooting" media.
What a bunch of whining babies. by Mr Nice Gaius	Aug 6th, 2006 04:50:38 PM
The movie is a year away. They are intentionally keeping things under wraps. They already said at Comic Con that even the people working on the movie won't see fully visualized robots until Jan/Feb of next year. So, stop your bitchin' and cool it.
Hey...Susan Sarandon is hot! by CrayonPie	Aug 6th, 2006 04:53:04 PM
Whats with the Sarandon bitch slap? Magan is ultra hot. I wish she melted off more of that outfit.
Ahhh!! Paris Hilton is celibate!! by Johnny Drama	Aug 6th, 2006 05:11:56 PM
http://nosexforparis.ytmnd.com / Why isn't there a talk-back for this!?
Holy cow by Mattapooh	Aug 6th, 2006 05:58:19 PM
Do you guys realize what you're doing? You're taking a Transformers movie seriously. Remember how we were into that stuff back when we were... I dunno.... SIX YEARS OLD?? Who gave a crap about "character development" back then? That part of our vocabulary was about ten years off. That's the problem with movies like this and everything based on comic books, everyone expects their twenty-six-year-old self to be just as entertained as their six-year-old self was back in the day, which just results in massive, massive disappointments all around. Bay does flashy, substanceless films. Transformers is about a bunch of giant robots that walk around and fight. If you want writing, go watch some indie flick and let the artistic adult in you enjoy that so that you can fuck off and stop looking for that level of satisfaction in a movie about WALKING AND TALKING CAR ROBOTS. I'm excited about a Michael Bay movie for the first time ever, and I think he's more than capable of handling an eye candy-based popcorn flick like this one.
Why are they "Robots In Disguise"... by stlfilmwire	Aug 6th, 2006 06:14:28 PM
If the transformers are robots in disguise, why then do they have big fucking decals on their doors and hoods that reveal which reveal their alliance.
Megan Fox has a gun leg! by CrayonPie	Aug 6th, 2006 06:29:49 PM
That bs "distressed" shot in the marketing puff piece reminded me of that other disaster in progress, Grindhouse. Goodnight, Nurse!
TOO SOON by Pageiv	Aug 6th, 2006 06:42:02 PM
I mean they are giving the whole movie away with these videos.
I'm saying it here and now, mark my words... by cornponious	Aug 6th, 2006 08:22:26 PM
I don't think that pic of the long-nose semi with flames is Optimus Prime. It can't be. I simply refuse to believe the director would venture that far away from canon. I mean, Optimus Prime is a flat-nose semi and does not have flames. It's one thing to take creative license, it's a total other thing to change something so much that you alienate 75% of the hard-core fans. I just don't think Bay would do that. I say that truck in the picture was NOT OP.
Oh yeah, one more thing... by cornponious	Aug 6th, 2006 08:23:18 PM
Don't mark my words if I'm wrong about the aforementioned Optimus Prime thing.
Ill catch it on DVD by jhpiii	Aug 6th, 2006 09:16:32 PM
You can tell Megan has no clue...which will probably show on screen...because everything is so hush hush...and Michael Bay's rep...A good bet is this will be Thunderbirds '07
I'm not an expert... by inevitability	Aug 6th, 2006 09:25:49 PM
Like many of you seem to be or anything; Im just a regular guy who enjoys movies, and giving a visit to Boxofficemojo I can see that Im not the only guy around who thinks that Bay delivers action. Worldwide grosses: Armageddon $553,709,788; Bad Boys 2 $273,339,556; Pearl Harbor $449,220,945; The Island $160,285,073; The Rock $335,062,621... Besides, its a movie about toys... a movie about cars that are actually robots... wtf? We should thank God that this thing is even being made.
Michael Bay kicks fucking ass he makes fun movies by skiff	Aug 6th, 2006 10:57:41 PM
Armageddon Bad Boys 2 Pearl Harbor The Island The Rock all made for a fun night at the movies.With this year seeing so many poison movies made I can't wait to see some one at least try to entertain the people. Anybody try to rent a dvd in the last 4 weeks nothin but junk. Can't wait to buy rome
Baby Jesus. Please don't let Transformers suck by Orionsangels	Aug 6th, 2006 11:24:03 PM
and make sure the movie becomes a classic and a huge hit worldwide. That's all for now. Thank you 6 month old 9 pound baby Jesus.
by SongOfTheSausage	Aug 6th, 2006 11:41:49 PM

Link has already been removed ... by CardinalHog	Aug 7th, 2006 01:13:12 AM
Someone better have saved it and put it on YouTube. Oh, and by the way, I love my Jesus, teenage-style. All indpendent with a skateboard, doing ollies as he tries to grow a beard unsuccessfully.
damnit by unclefishbits	Aug 7th, 2006 01:16:48 AM
you gotta be kidding me.. what did I miss this by.. a couple seconds?
new link you tube... by unclefishbits	Aug 7th, 2006 01:17:49 AM
i like you tube.. these guys have an office a block from me. I should buy them flowers or something. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =G0_gF4FkSHM
Post of the year by - SongOfTheSausage! by Orionsangels	Aug 7th, 2006 01:31:59 AM
You said it all
QTN, You Ignorant Fuck... by TheRealMoriarty	Aug 7th, 2006 03:37:07 AM
And I quote: "An AICN reviewer that I once fucking respected did this review of Ratner's X3 where its obvious he hated hated HATED the movie, but instead tried to write his way around this, saying how its still "good" entertainment, blah blah. Besides, how many "positive" reviews do you know of where its mostly written like a laundry hate list? Yet I was disapointed to learn that while that was happening, the same reviewer was trying to push a script at Fox Searchlight. Sure, I don't have proof of a correlation or pattern, but I assume that if you want a screenplay bought by a studio, you try to kiss as much ass as possible." For the record, since I'm the only AICN staffer who enjoyed X3 on its own merits, if you're trying to imply that when I wrote my review I was trying to set up a project at Fox Searchlight, you are absolutely 100% wrong. In fact, when I published the script review for X3 and wrote my open letter to Tom Rothman, a scathing piece, I was actually in the final stages of negotiating my deal with Fox on RACE WITH THE DEVIL, something which was never a secret, and that open letter permanently fucked my relationship with the studio. I won't be working there now or ever as long as Rothman's in charge, and frankly, I don't give a fuck. If you're going to use our bandwidth to write half-assed factually inaccurate attacks on us, then have the balls to name names so I can tell you exactly how wrong you are. And be prepared if you continue to use our bandwidth to traffic in ignorant fucking lies to lose the privilege of posting here altogether.
I can't believe you bothered responding to by Lost Prophet	Aug 7th, 2006 04:47:16 AM
that crap, mori. For the record, this tool doesn't even remember the AvP2 slaughterfest, which casts doubt on any claim he has. Just ignore him and he will go away.
People saying that it's just a toy movie about robots.. by messi	Aug 7th, 2006 05:16:21 AM
you are stupid. You think it's that simple. That we should be happy that it's getting made and it's just 2 hours of robots fighting? well guess what? just because its transforming robots that fight doesn't make it good, go-bots had the same concept, i don't see them making comics and toys out of them 20 years later. There's a reason Transformers has lasted and there is a movie getting made. Plus it's not 2 hours of robots fighting. the script has 70% humans and only 30% transformers. Megatron doens't even show up till about 20 minutes from the end!
Moriarty is right by messi	Aug 7th, 2006 05:20:36 AM
I remember that. I even saved that talkback because it was so enjoyable. He full on ripped into Fox and Tom Rothman, especially for his comment that he was a 'geek'. Which moriarty found offensive. And me too. And also his idiocy to ruin a franchise because of a grudge, of course it didn't happen and Singer was the loser but still, at least Moriarty had the balls.
He was the bomb in Phantoms, yo! by FearlessJay	Aug 7th, 2006 07:40:43 AM
Ya know, I've been coming here for years, and the one thing I've noted isn't that the reviews are loosening up, it's that hating on projects before they're even seen is getting more prevalent in the talkbacks. I feel like watching Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back again just for the irony.
What? That's It? by abominate	Aug 7th, 2006 07:43:56 AM
I can't believe that's all there is of the animatic, and what's there is graphically worse than Pixar's first mini-movie with those two lamps. Spider-Man 3 here I come.
QTN=Owned by theoneofblood	Aug 7th, 2006 07:44:25 AM
You really needn't bother Mori.
Fun movies but crap by jhpiii	Aug 7th, 2006 07:54:36 AM
Bay delivers Crap... A movie is much more than just action sequences....It's a story first, which is why none of those "Big dollar" he made are memorable. He'll never make anything like Raiders, Lethal Weapon, Matrix, Gladiaor even Terminator just to name a few... Directors like him have figured out the formula for 100 mill+ projects...Take something with a large fan base + a couple of big name actors + heavy marketing + pre-movie hype(internet)+ push into 3000 + theaters during 1st weekend around summer. A true if you make it they will come.. They'll continue to use people like Bay to make 2 weekend movie crap that are just good enough to watch on DVD. And it wont be until we demand better that stuff like ths keeps gettng made with no effort in it. So never use $$$ to measure how good a movie or a director/producer is.
While the actual news... by Childe Roland	Aug 7th, 2006 08:56:30 AM
...in this article wasn't so much worth the click, I have to say Mori's ownage of QTN made my morning. Good for you, Drew.
I love the smell of Ownage in the morning. by Mr Nice Gaius	Aug 7th, 2006 09:02:57 AM
Ouch QTN! That was pretty lowrent of you, dude. If you're gonna take a swing at the AICN crew, you should at least be a man about it. -- Well done, Mori.
messi by Mr Nice Gaius	Aug 7th, 2006 09:05:56 AM
Regarding Megatron/last 20 minutes: any proof of this? Last I heard/read is that nearly everything rumored to be happening in the movie is just that - rumored. Possibly with the exception of the prologue.
"The Rock & Armageddon were incredible!" by ArkadyRenko	Aug 7th, 2006 09:40:08 AM
I agree. Incredible pieces of cinematic shit!
What about this? by ArkadyRenko	Aug 7th, 2006 09:46:07 AM
Quoting: "Take a certain AICN scoopman (...). He gets his hands on the 80-page script treatment for THE DARK KNIGHT penned by Nolan and Goyer. He tries to get it posted on AICN, but guess what? A certain AICN major leaguer (...) kills the scoop." ------- Was this true? Somebody did tried to post the Batman Begins 2 script tretment and was refused by the very owners of the site? Can anybody of the AICN staff confirm (or deny) this? I ask this because i loved, loved BATMAN BEGINS, and i think Chris Nolan is one of the most talented young filmmaker working on studio blockbusters, and having the script teratment of the next batman posted ehre would had been a great scoop for the site, one that would put it ahead of all the others. Can anybody coment on this? I'm darn curious!
Damn... by DocPazuzu	Aug 7th, 2006 10:05:41 AM
...That looked pretty painful. Not the footage, but the other thing... winces
Doc, what was painful to you? by ArkadyRenko	Aug 7th, 2006 10:14:58 AM
To me, the most remarkable thing in the ET special about Transformers was not the CGI animatronics, or the lack of anything interesting shown about the movie, and certainly there wa snothing interesting in what that Megan girl had to say about the movie (and her delivery in that irritating califrinian nasal accetn sure made her sound like a dumb bimbo -- nice rack, though!). No, the thing that most disturbed me was the face lift job on Michael Bay's face!!
ArkadyRenko by Mr Nice Gaius	Aug 7th, 2006 10:16:23 AM
Is this your first week on AICN???
Second or third, actually by ArkadyRenko	Aug 7th, 2006 10:33:20 AM

Arkady... by Mr Nice Gaius	Aug 7th, 2006 10:36:07 AM
It shows.
No doubt, Mr Nice Gaius, no doubt! by ArkadyRenko	Aug 7th, 2006 10:51:10 AM
I guess for you the vetereans, you can smell a newbie at a distance. May i ask, what was it exactly that gave it away my newbieness?
I'll answer that for you Arkady.. by Lost Prophet	Aug 7th, 2006 10:57:03 AM
Not knowing about zfisk/ homewrecker's lunacy/ history. Spot a newbie a mile away, when they ask questions about this species of TB'er
We can't all be ultra-geeks like Nice Gaius by finky089	Aug 7th, 2006 10:57:33 AM
who can't wait til someone shows they know less than him so that he can whip out his "long-time AICNer" stick and mercilessly pound it on the heads of any noob that dares post on a TB. Dude, just take the chip off your shoulder and ignore him if his lack of AICN history irks you. And, QTN = PWNED!
Hey finky089...relax. by Mr Nice Gaius	Aug 7th, 2006 11:03:44 AM
Arkady isn't "irking" me. But you might if you keep it up with your attitude there, guy.
Arkady... by Mr Nice Gaius	Aug 7th, 2006 11:15:14 AM
Lost Prophet has sort of mentioned it here. Your "dead give away" was your post in Quint's WTC thread. (Why you chose to walk in on that party at that stage is beyond me.) But fear not - just watch out for the "z" man...
ArkadyRenko by DocPazuzu	Aug 7th, 2006 11:17:33 AM
I was referring to the whole QTN/Mori interface. Weren't you the guy who called me a "Bush apologist", by the way?
Off-topic but by Mechasheeva	Aug 7th, 2006 11:56:24 AM
Not much else is going on here . . . thought I'd mention that of all people John Cusack is now a rumored contender for the Harvey Dent role in The Dark Knight; he apparently mentioned it in an interview over the weekend. Source: Batman-on-film.com
Mechasheeva - Cusack in True Colors (1991)... by NoHubris	Aug 7th, 2006 12:11:26 PM
...as a power crazed white collar/political thug shows how this might work IMHO.
DocP: "Weren't you who called me a "Bush aapologist"? by ArkadyRenko	Aug 7th, 2006 12:28:14 PM
Frankly, to tell you the truth, with so many "Fuck Michael Bay" stuff i have writen, i kinda lost track of all the other stuff i have writen in the AICN boards. Oh yes, i did praised THE INSIDE MAN, i remember that. ------------------ And by the way, yiou guys seem to have invented such a thigh hermetic lingo around here, not to mention the injokes and insider references, i think i'll need a dictionary and a AICN Encyclopedia to understand half what you say. Still, that can be fun!
I though that in True Colours... by ArkadyRenko	Aug 7th, 2006 12:31:29 PM
... John Cusack's character was blue colour background guy that raised to proeminent thanks to being ruthless. It was David Spade who was the the white collar background, i believe. And i heard that it's Liev Schneider that will play Harvey Dent.
ArkadyRenko by DocPazuzu	Aug 7th, 2006 12:36:55 PM
That is indeed part of the fun. Before you know it, you'll be exclaiming "...has a beer and cheets on his wife!", "...is the sexiest tomboy beanpole on the planet!", "Too soon!" and "MAN-CATS!"
ArkadyRenko (Last Off Topic Post) by NoHubris	Aug 7th, 2006 12:47:52 PM
Cusack as a law student and senatorial aide placed him in the white collar world despite his background IMO. BTW, this is my last post on that in this TB. You are new, but one of the quickest ways to get flamed in these parts is going off topic on a much beloved subject.
Aahhh, Too Soon!!! by ArkadyRenko	Aug 7th, 2006 12:48:50 PM
Now that was the first one i catched on! Personally, i find it hysterical when used concerning other movies that do not deal with 9/11. I think i was in this Oliver Stone's World Trace Center movie board, and i think i called "pussy" to a guy that claimed that movie was too soon (you see, he was being seriously about the Too Soon complain). To tell you the truth, i'm now a bit confused if i called him a pussy here on in some other movie site board. I have enourmous respect to all the victims of the 9/11 attack,and i have some personal attatchement to it sicne i did visited the Twin Towers one year before the tragedy, but to claim a movie canot be made out of it when toones of books and Tv series have, that's not just absurd, it's even bordering on willing for censorship. like they say, if you don't like it, don't watch. If you ask me, nothing is off limits to movies (as they aren't for literature). mike Medavoy once wrote: "moives are the literature of the younger generations". I agree with that statment.
NoHubris by ArkadyRenko	Aug 7th, 2006 12:52:53 PM
"You are new, but one of the quickest ways to get flamed in these parts is going off topic on a much beloved subject" ---- Many thanks for that advice, i apreciate it and take into account. But, so i can tread carefully, what exactly is the topic you are warning me about that's so dearly here? It's not Michael Bay, is it? (good lord, i hope not!!!!)
I hope they don't change TOO fast by BendersShinyAss	Aug 7th, 2006 01:03:32 PM
The biggest proglem I find with special effects these days is, that while they're all good, the speed at which a large object moves is just too fast. I use the examples of 'I, Robot' for no particular reason other than it just sprung to mind. The attack on the car by the robot truck. The speed at which the effects and editing cut were just too damn fast. indeed, had it been slower with more work put into the sound and the weight of these object, it could have been such a good sequence. from this footage, it has that 'too fast' issue. Still, I'm looking forward to this. Bay may have fucked up Pearl Harbour, but the man makes good action.
Doc you forgot something.... by Hairy Nutsack	Aug 7th, 2006 01:12:59 PM
Arkady, it's also important to remember that besides you, DocPazuzu is the only other person posting on AICN. Everyone is Doc Pazuzu and Doc Pazuzu is everyone. Yes, I too, am Doc Pazuzu.
Bay's car chases... by DocPazuzu	Aug 7th, 2006 01:14:34 PM
...in Bad Boys 2 and The Island put the ones in Matrix Reloaded and most others in recent years to shame (The Bourne Supremacy excluded). Say what you want about the guy, but a movie about giant fighting robots from space is EXACTLY what he needs to be doing.
Yes, this is true, Arkady... by DocPazuzu	Aug 7th, 2006 01:16:27 PM
...but after a while, you too will become me.
LOL ArkadyRenko. Was referring to the TRANSFORMERS... by NoHubris	Aug 7th, 2006 01:19:23 PM
...but Michael Bay is still the Man, regardless of the Island and Pearl Harbor.
Bay & Transformers by Mr Nice Gaius	Aug 7th, 2006 01:31:01 PM
I agree, Doc. I've been trying to keep some sense of optimism on these Transformers TBs. I can't think of any subject matter better suited for Bay's style of direction (except for naked chicks sunning themselves on the hoods of sports cars...). The fact that Spielberg also seems to be enthusiastically backing this guy gives me hope for something more than just a CGI crap-fest.
not very good.. by Bishop6	Aug 7th, 2006 01:50:58 PM
I can animate a more believable walking robot..that was weak.
"ArkadyRenko. Was referring to the TRANSFORMERS" by ArkadyRenko	Aug 7th, 2006 01:54:27 PM
Of course!!! Silly me! Don't mind me, it was just a momentary lapse of reason. ------ You know, i'm starting to feel i'm DocPazuzu too. I'm already starting to feel the wrappings of the wings of the locust, if you know what i mean. ------ I have to disagree with you guys about Bay's quality in making car chases. Sur,e they are big and many cars meet demise in extreme fashion and there's all those big explosions stuff, but that's it! Take away the budget and Bay simply could not make a car chase. His car chase in THE ISLAND could had been the best moment in all his carrer, if not for the fact it's a repetition of what he did previously in BAD BOYS 2. and i'm sorry, but i'm old enough to remember that Bay copied his car chase in BB2 from the opnening action scene in the 1990 Clint Eathood directed movie THE ROOKIE. Bay just throw more money at it, crashed more cars, and that set it during the day... oh, and those orange lenses filters! How could i forgot that! Well, risking sounding like a no-funbore and not being able to appreciate the finner points of the "it's just a popcorn fun movie" type of filmed entermainent, i'm just one of those fools that stilll believe that the action sceens should be there to actually advance the story, instead of stoping it for the sake of fireworks. Fireworks are all fun and dandy, but hell, we are telling a story here, not celebrating the 4th of july, if you know what i mean. Therefore, silly person that i am, i expect a bit more of juice in the action scenes. Like, for isntance, that actions scenes also present something of the characters characteristics and being relevant to the story being told. One car chase that i think is an absolute treat, not just form the tecnical stand point, but also as a marvel of how it fits so well into a story and also gives us lcues into the characters portaited, is the car chase in THE BOURNE SUPREMACY. That car chase is ace, and anybody tyhat cannot feel enthralled by it i will look at them with great suspiciousness. That chase scene not only wrapped the story and conflict between two characters, even shown in the end a progresson in the main character, from absolute cold killer to a man that, reminded of his lover's last words, decided to let fate do it's thing to this adversary then to just put another nail into his souls. And from ther,e it segues to him confronting the daughter of the russian couple he murdered and bearing out his soul and conffessing his crime, in an act of contrition and absolution. That scene would had not worked as well without the action scene beforehand. Same thing can be said to the action scenes of the movie HEAT, where in them we get to know more things aboutn the characters that we did not know before, thanks to their actions and decision while in the action scenes. As i said before, i'm still one of those fools that think that the thing that distingues an action movie from any other genre is the fact that it is a story where the characters are shown and presented and depicted not fromwhat they say, like in say a melodrama, but by their actions. Like, remember how Lee Marvin was in his movies, you knew all about his character form what he did and you were not left in the unknon for that. but isee that nowdays, there's a tendency to classify an action movie as "the movie where shit is blown up", and it seems i'm suposed to appauld and be giddy about it because soem big ass hollywood producer says what fun is all about and i'm a dour no-fun dork if don't "get" it. Well, pardon me, but i do think i get it, and i can't just call entertainemnt because soembody flashes some pretty big explosions at me and i'm supsoed to cal that entertainment. and also, why should i call entertainent a mvoei that's fast-cutter like hell and that causes me migranes? why should i try to be in the "hip" if those movies are edited in such fashion that nor only ic annot understand what i'm seeing, it also gives me physical diconfort? Just because the producer said it's good? I think ic an think for myself, thank you very much. ------------- Well, i guess all this tirare just to for me to say that michael bay sucks ass! And man, i'm sorry to rain in somebody's parade, but Tranformers looks like it's going to be more of the same from Mr Bay, meaning, a another piece of shit.
Bishop6 by Mr Nice Gaius	Aug 7th, 2006 02:06:53 PM
It's called an animatic. They are used to sketch a scene ahead of time before the actual CGI animators do their work. As someone who deals in half-baked ideas (i.e. WTC conspiracies) I'm surprised you don't know that.
bay defenders by zooch	Aug 7th, 2006 02:15:13 PM
We understand it's a film about GIANT TRANSFORMING ROBOTS. We understand it's not Gone With the Wind , but that does not mean it can be stupid. That doesn't mean the Bay can give us a preposterous and predictable plot. That doesn't mean he can confuse us with incoherant editing and rhytmn. That doesn't mean the characters can be wooden, unmemorable, and have no heart. A movie can good popcorn fun without sacrificing a story. Judging Bay's previous work he doesn't understand this.
Mr. Nice Gaius by ArkadyRenko	Aug 7th, 2006 02:28:21 PM
"The fact that Spielberg also seems to be enthusiastically backing this guy gives me hope for something more than just a CGI crap-fest." ------------- Actually, from what i heard, Spielberg working with Michael Bay in this movie is him honouring a two movie deal that he did with Bay. The story, so it seem, harks back to the days when Spielberg was developing THE WAR OF THE WORLDS. Aparently, Bay was alos developing another movie that also had a premise similiar to Spielberg's movie, aka, an alien invasionon Earth. spielberg, possibly fearing another 1998 situation where one of his (prouced) movies, DEEP IMPACT, had to compete at the box office with another similiary themed movie, Michael Bay/Jerry Bruckheimer's Armageddon, decided to convince Bay to let go of his project and give him a two picture deal at DreamWorks. and well, Bay might be talentles,s but he was not a fool to say no so such a sweet proposition from non other then The Spielberg himself! So, Bay burried his own "alien bothers earthling" movie and went into production on THE ISLAND. and now the second movie on the deal is TRANSFORMERS. so, more then "faith" in Bay's abilities, Spielberg is honouring his contract to him. You cna say that Speilberg's decision to give Trasnformers tom Bay is because it's a project that suits best for Bay's style, and you are absoutly correct. I mean, i doubt Bay could make an adaptation of Wuthering Heights to the screen, even despiste his evolving sensebilities (which kinda seem stop evolving after THE ISLAND sunk at the box office). ---------------------- P.S..: By the way, correct me if i'm wrong, but did the expression "evolving sensebilities of Michael Bay" started here as well? I remember i read it somewhere else, either in IMDB or in some of the minors movie critic website about THE ISLAND, and it was refered to it being from here. I would like that anybody could confirm this, as it was one ofthe funniest things i ever read concerning Bay. His "evolving sensebilitie", th first time i read that, i swear, i nearly pissed myself laughing. It was one of the biggest and best laught i ever had concerning movies.
ArkadyRenko by DocPazuzu	Aug 7th, 2006 02:33:14 PM
Indeed, it was Quint (I believe) who, with no sense of irony whatsoever, wrote that in an on-set report from The Island. Consequently, it became an AICN catchphrase for a good while afterwards.
Thanks for the info, Doc. And now i Know!!!! by ArkadyRenko	Aug 7th, 2006 02:52:42 PM
It really sounded like something you guys would had come up with, thanks to your AICN devilish sense of humour. --------- Quint, was he, hem? Ok, please pretty pelase with sugar on top and all that and stuff, don't take this then wrong way or anything, but i just want to ask, how old is Quint and is really very much into movies in general or just some genres in particular? I ask this because of one of his coments in the WORLD TRADE CENTER movie boards, where he seemed that a movie nmade before that had already used the WTC imagery for dramatic affect, namely, THE 25TH HOUR.
Well, it's Spielberg's money. by Mr Nice Gaius	Aug 7th, 2006 02:52:59 PM
He can do with it as he pleases. But considering Bay's "Pearl Harbor" was like watching a bad cartoon and the fact that "Transformers" is based on a cartoon...I've got hope.
what oprevents it from being another bad cartoon? by ArkadyRenko	Aug 7th, 2006 03:09:03 PM
And Pearl Harbor looked more like as if somebody has seen Star Wars on rack and drunk and then later tried to remember it but all it came to him was images from WWII movies he saw when he was 5 years old.
Yeah Gaius, except..... by Hairy Nutsack	Aug 7th, 2006 03:12:37 PM
...except we already know there is a human cast of 1000s in this thing, which means the cool action sequences can potentially be drowned out by the human drama that none of us want to see in the first place. It scares me to death when I look at that cast list and see more stars than there are Transformers in this movie....just like Pearl Harbor.
Hairy Nutsack by Mr Nice Gaius	Aug 7th, 2006 03:22:09 PM
Yes, the human casting gives me pause. It makes me wonder where the budget is for all the CGI that we should be expecting in this flick. After all, the robots are supposed to be the main characters, right? It's funny...but I think it all comes down to Prime (and maybe even Megatron). He may be the one character that will hold this thing together.
If you guys think they ever make a movie... by ArkadyRenko	Aug 7th, 2006 03:37:04 PM
... where they will show more robots then humans... DREAM ON! Prepare for the TINO: TRANSFORMERS IN NAME ONLY!
regarding megatron in the movie by messi	Aug 7th, 2006 05:16:52 PM
most script reviews point out the fact that the transformers take a backseat to the humans and that megatron appears in a hologram showing him on cybertron but actually makes his appearance about 20 mins from the end. The dialogue can change and some characters can have more/less dialogue but the story and structure isn't changing. Let's hope starscream get's more than 2 lines.
Bad Boys 2 and the island better car chases than... by messi	Aug 7th, 2006 05:20:48 PM
reloaded? are you smoking heavy amounts of crack? those two movies have nothing on the editing and the timing of that juno reactor song from reloaded. Not to mention a kung fu fight on top of a moving semi trailer that makes me orgasm. but seriously that electronica song owns all.
Bay's car chases... by jhpiii	Aug 7th, 2006 05:49:40 PM
If you really like the car chases in Bad Boys 2 and The Island, you must watch reruns of TJ Hooker all day. Cmon we got to start expecting better from Hollywood than just the same ol tired and used talentless formula...You can have an action moive that is also interesting to watch....I hate to moan and moan about this..but it just seems more and more predictable...early hype + ho hum early shots = crap of a movie....and with Bay's name attached to it, its a good bet...There was a time where STORY meant something.
NEW PIC OF OPTIMUS, RACHET AND FOOT!!!! by messi	Aug 7th, 2006 06:45:07 PM
http://tinyurl.com/o73sv
Extended behind the scenes footage. by TygerClaw	Aug 7th, 2006 08:05:27 PM
Access Hollywood has posted an extended version of the behind the scenes footage, This one shows a lot more of the filming then then what was show on TV, Its over 4 minutes long. http://video.accesshollywood.c om/v/?linkId=25436
messi by Mr Nice Gaius	Aug 7th, 2006 09:30:32 PM
Can you give us links to these script reviews? The only one I've seen is the Latino Review and that intentionally did not cover the whole thing. Not to mention the fact that Bay has already said that the versions once leaked online are not even close to the shooting script he is actually using. Apparently, Spielberg has given him some personal advice and told him he should keep locked away in a safe when not on the set.
All your car chase belong to The Matrix: Reloaded by Johnno	Aug 7th, 2006 10:36:18 PM
I heard Silver say that the Wachowskis had originally planned more crazy shit for the car chase etc. but budget did eventually become a problem... Anyway anyone know what the hell happened to that Art of the Matrix book that was supposed to be for the sequels? Because I want that badly!
Bay is the right man for the job. by Neo Zeed	Aug 7th, 2006 11:41:06 PM
I'm actually shocked of the wonderful simplicity of it all. T Get a guy who loves special EFX, cars and tanks, and action movies to direct a flick that has all three. What an amazing concept. These days we'd hire Bryan Singer or the director of Notting Hill hoping that it'll elevate the genre to Oscar status. That concept is played out, because it never does, and never results in a satisfying action flick either. It's just a trick to placate fanboys who have a grudge against Joel Schumacher. The truth is that it comes with a Simon Kinsberg script and generic Avi Arad/Rob Cohen-like action. And since the director doesn't have any interest in action (which is like 70% of the script.) He'll just default to heavy amounts of fake CGI. Now it's guys like Ratner and Tim Story, who never even made an Oscar cailber movie so what's up with that? There should be a seperate film school for action directors..Can you imagine the tuition costs? LOL
The Script review by messi	Aug 8th, 2006 12:26:31 AM
For Mr Nice Gaius. Shooting Scripts aren't that different. Dialogue and scenes may change but the overall story and what happens does not change. http://www.tfw2005.com/transfo rmers-live-action-movie-2007-s cript-review.php
Reloaded car chase by DocPazuzu	Aug 8th, 2006 01:38:43 AM
Sure, it was flawlessly executed, but that is also part of its problem. It looks TOO slick. There's never any sense of danger for the characters, no feeling that the vehicles actually have any physical weight. It's like watching somebody else playing a Matrix video game. It numbed me after about 30 seconds, much like Van Helsing did.
Herr Doktor Pazuzu by ArkadyRenko	Aug 8th, 2006 04:28:47 AM
Quoting DocPazuzu: "Sure, it was flawlessly executed, but that is also part of its problem. It looks TOO slick." ---- You know, there's a point to it, as the car chases happened inside the virtual world of The Matrix. therefore, and since it's all in fact a big computer simulation, the whole car chase would be presentes extrely stylized as to emphasise the artificial nature of the world it happened. You know, in those Matrix movies, there really is a porpose behind all that madness, you know!
christ Arkady- by Lost Prophet	Aug 8th, 2006 04:42:57 AM
when do you sleep? Also, this needs to be slick- I can't imagine anything worse than watching giant robots transform into cars with the speed of continental drift.
DocPazuzu by messi	Aug 8th, 2006 05:03:55 AM
God what is it with so many people acting like there are rules in film that need to be followed. The car chase was never meant to make you feel like there was danger, by that time we already know these characters are badasses. It doesn't feel like there's danger till Morpheous fights the agent. But the car chase itself is supposed to be 'cool' 'entertaining', remember that? Entertainment? the reason movies were created? The car chase is incredibly entertaining and just awesome. It's like a fight scene, some fight scenes are there for the character to get through and it's dangerous. Like the fight between Neo and Smith at the end of the first matrix and some are there just to see how cool fighting is etc like a Tony Jaa fight since you know he's going to own them. If all filmmakers followed the same conventions and these rules that you seem to think exist, all films would be boring.
messi by DocPazuzu	Aug 8th, 2006 06:28:32 AM
What, exactly, is it in my post which caused you to believe that I don't value "coolness" or "entertainment" in movies? I find it telling that you mentioned the fight between Neo and Smith in the first Matrix. I found that the fight scenes in 2 and 3 suffered from the same problem that the car chase did -- no sense of danger, excitement or "reality", even if it did take place inside the matrix. As for Tony Jaa, yes, you know he is going to own everybody but he at least makes it LOOK LIKE an effort on his part. See the difference?
Neo Zeed by zooch	Aug 8th, 2006 08:19:49 AM
You say it's never worked to elevate the action genre to oscar status? didn't star wars, raiders of the lost ark, lord of the rings, gladiator win or nominated? you say hire these so-called "action" directors to do action? didn't we get burnt on that? how many awful awful action movies by action directors have came out in the past decade? pearl harbor, alien vs. predator, the mummy, resident evil...if you want more of this that please god kill yourself. but when the studio hires indie film directors like jackson, raimi, singer, nolan they elevate the genre and make it great.
Anyone have a link that works? by Knobules	Aug 8th, 2006 10:10:17 AM

zooch by Neo Zeed	Aug 8th, 2006 12:26:45 PM
Guys like Speilberg, Lucas, Jackson, Raimi, and Ridley I have no problem. Those guys understand actors and have a point of view on action and special effects. These guys actually are smart AND have a point of view on what looks cool on screen. Those guys actually came out of a geniune desire to work in the action genre...and take things to a new levels visually to entertain. Now studios want to re-create these successes with the new batch of directors..like Nolan, Singer and teach them how to be a action directors and make them like action/superhero/sci-fi stuff. This was inspired by the Matrix where it seemed that these indy dudes came out of nowhere to direct an action masterpiece. However these guys had to, on their own, impress Joel Silver by showing him an original sci-fi/action script and tons of anime and say "I want to do that. Help me make that!" If studios want to be proactive, they should look for for the next Robert Rodriguez whose action indy film El Mariachi showed that he had a cleverness, sense of style, and interest in the genre. Great action movies come from directors and can't be taught by studios.
Dude, don't piss on Christopher Nolan by ArkadyRenko	Aug 8th, 2006 01:45:17 PM
What he did in Batman Begins should be taugh in film schools as in how to make an action movie with brains and make it look like a proper genuine film instead of just a filmed excuse for confused teens to masturbate on explosions. ---- And about that notion that "movies are suposed to be entertaining", no, movies are suposed to be WHATEVER THE FILMMAKERS WANT THEIR MOVIES TO BE, be it action entertainment, religious S&M fetish fantasies, painting dry, whatever the fuck. Either if you can dig them or not, that's another problem.
Here's the thing, Neo - by Mechasheeva	Aug 8th, 2006 02:30:49 PM
Singer CAN do action. The first scene of X2 is one of the best action sequences I've seen in a long time. My jaw hit the floor when I saw that. And people complain about the quick cut, tough-to-follow action in Batman Begins because the apparently don't understand what he was trying to do - he was giving us a feeling for what it would be like to be attacked by Batman, a shape, a shadow that moves so quickly and comes out of nowhere, so that you're incapacitated before you even realize that you're in a fight. Nolan did Batman Begins just right.
I don't go to movies to watch paint dry. by Neo Zeed	Aug 8th, 2006 03:30:49 PM
And I certainly don't watch action movies to not be entertained. For the record I find non-action movies just as (or more so) entertaining . My Dinner with Andre's was entertaining. However that was a drama and not action movie, so it relied on it's wonderful dialogue to grab your attention. In fact dialogue is all that it had :) Great dramas don't need "fights" to be great because the situations and dialogue are engaging. However, when you decide to make an action flick you're basically saying that you can entertain (majority wise) on a visceral level. You have enough 'visual tricks' at your disposal to dazzle the audience or 90 miniutes. Also, back in the day screenwriters knew how to write action movies to make the the entire film entertaining as a whole (like Shane Black and Jeffrey Boam). Both screenwriter and director worked as a team to deliver a movie with great visuals, intense situations, and dialogue that popped. Batman Begins had crap action (quik cut fu sucks and must be stopped. Even with the the 'shadow' reasoning it should have been done better with onscreen impact hits.) and the dialogue was all exposition. I subsequently was not entertained, or maybe I'm just hard to please. Not sure which...maybe after growing up in the 80s and 90s watching the action greats work their magic with ease, I can't settle for merely 'aiiiight' action.
I didn't see the clip by thrillkillbill	Aug 8th, 2006 03:59:21 PM
Are there any other links out there where I can see the Access Hollywood footage. I couldn't get the Bay site link to work, but I'm excited to take a look
Did someone..... by Hairy Nutsack	Aug 8th, 2006 08:28:49 PM
Did someone really just say that George Lucas understands actors in the same way that Spielberg, Jackson,Raimi, and Ridley (Scott)do? That could only be true if your actor is wooden Pinnochio before the Blue Fairy visited him. UGGHH! Geez, just look at how spectacularly Spielberg's children act for him compared to Jake Lloyd, a kid who actually could act and emote with a different director.
Hairy Nutsack by Neo Zeed	Aug 8th, 2006 10:00:27 PM
My bad. Not sure how he snuck on there..
I lso grew up in the 80s and 90s (born in the 70s)... by ArkadyRenko	Aug 9th, 2006 07:54:13 AM
... and for very scarce and ocasional examples, the action movies of the 80s were FAG ASS BULLSHIT PIECE OF SHIT! Fuck nostalgia, i can see when a movie is really good regardless of the decade it was made. And Batman Begins is for keepers. and the coment that "dramas are engaging because it's the dialogues and it's waht they have to have" and then "action is for having big action setpieces and that's it" stuff, aren't we all sure of what movie should thou and shouldn't thou!! MOVIES ARE WHATEVER THE FUCK THE FILMAMKERS WANT THEM TO BE. Rules? What fucking rules? Sure, soem might folow soem narrative rules, but that bulshit doesn't aply to everybody. I have seen a whole plethora of different narrative rules aplied to different movies of the same genre and they all work, or not, depending on the skills of the filmmaker to make that happen. It's funny to see this online geeks pretending they are Robert McKee and thinking they have all it figured out what cinema and movies are all about! When Akira Kurosawa received this Thalberg Award in 1986, part of his acceptance speach was the follwing "I'm still a student of cinema, i'm yet learning what cinema is". And that was A FUCKING GENIOUS TALKING. Pardon me if i take the humility of a cinematic genious who still though he had much to learn and there's no absolutes about movies then the words of geek that has THOUs AND DON'Ts about movies. You want an absolute rule for movies? I can give you one: TELL THE STORY THE BEST WAY YOU CAN. Thus endeth the lesson.
Hey, QTN... by TheRealMoriarty	Aug 9th, 2006 04:09:33 PM
... check out this ownage. You and all your bullshit? Gone. Every post you ever put here? Gone. Your entire talkback identity, so carefully cultivated over a period of years? Gone. Enjoy your new message board and have fun under the bridge.

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