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Moriarty Reviews Michael Mann's MIAMI VICE

tosar is good by talbuckin	Jul 13th, 2006 07:26:14 AM
yep
oh by talbuckin	Jul 13th, 2006 07:26:32 AM
first
does Theroux do any breakdance fighting? by tripp5	Jul 13th, 2006 07:43:45 AM
i'd like to see him spin kick that Dom guy in the head. he annoyed the shit out of me in Entourage. Does he play the same "character" in this movie, which i assume is who he really is in real life, a big, meat headed guido?
Damnit by SuperSneaky	Jul 13th, 2006 07:44:00 AM
So close to first (sort of). Makes you wanna cry !
I Can't Wait by MRJONZ72	Jul 13th, 2006 07:44:07 AM

I heard the dialogue was awful, but I still can't wait by The Wrong Guy	Jul 13th, 2006 07:49:13 AM
...for this. Mann is magnificent. Heat and Collateral are two of the most kick-ass movies of the last decade. So says I. I thought Ali was mediocre at best, though.
Genesis/Viper cameras by DMark	Jul 13th, 2006 07:50:25 AM
Fine review, except the camera comments were very premature. Yes, Superman Returns was candy colored, but Singer also pushed the hell out of it to create what he was calling a color version of "Rebecca." It's impossible to know what a given camera can do without seeing what different cinematographers can do with it.
What? No chessy Don Johnson Cameo? by Superneal	Jul 13th, 2006 07:51:03 AM
Or that loser who played his sidekick! Forget it then-
by al aero	Jul 13th, 2006 07:51:06 AM
Bring this on, both Heat and Collateral are fantastic rides, cant fucken wait for this to own ass-hole al
SO NOT LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS by andyny29	Jul 13th, 2006 07:59:12 AM
The real star of the TV show was that ferrari testarossa and the alligator.
Soundtrack by Bono Luthor	Jul 13th, 2006 08:04:51 AM
Hey Mori, what was the music/use of music like in the movie? Need to know. Also, does anybody no the tracklisting for the soundtrack CD out on 25th? Do you have a link to it? Cheers
Now I'm conflicted, the early reviews said: by brycemonkey	Jul 13th, 2006 08:08:41 AM
Stupid plot; studid dialogue; stupid action sequences; bad acting. Now Mori (one of the few good 'uns on this site) says it's as good as Jesus cum. Either Mann did some crazy good work in post/editing or I may have to bring down the pain on Mori. CONFLICTED.
Off topic again, but funny: uber-coked Brian Singer... by JackPumpkinhead	Jul 13th, 2006 08:18:23 AM
tries to speak about the great success of Superman Returns: http://us.video.aol.com/video. index.adp?mode=1&pmmsid=167644 5
Brycemonkey by IrishJoe	Jul 13th, 2006 08:18:32 AM
It could be that some of the people who post early reviews are tards or plants. either way untrustworthy. really looking forward to this!!!!!!!!!!
Souped-up hollywood versions of lecter... by Call-me-Ismael	Jul 13th, 2006 08:19:58 AM
...does that include silence of the lambs???
And transcript... by JackPumpkinhead	Jul 13th, 2006 08:21:45 AM
"Well, I, I, I... I feel, I... that, the, the... I can... what? I feel... about what? About, um, um... you lost me. It's cool! It means... people are going to movies! I guess. You know. Uh, I love the first one. So, I wasn't sur... excited that, that it, that... people are going to the movies. I mean... it's, yeah. I guess. It's a good thing." So speaks the man given the task of resurrecting Superman. Can't wait for the sequel!
And as for Miami Vice, answer me this. by JackPumpkinhead	Jul 13th, 2006 08:24:11 AM
If a movie doesn't have pastels, outrageous clothes, freaky cops, Jan Hammer, and isn't even mostly set in Miami, WHY THE HELL CALL IT "MIAMI VICE"? Why not "The Traffic NARC versus Collateral Shield", because that's what it apparently wants to be?
Don Johnson cameo? by JackPumpkinhead	Jul 13th, 2006 08:26:20 AM
Isn't he currently busy doing prison term for smuggling drugs from Ukraine or something of the sort? Just remembering some news from last year...
But how's the soundtrack? by savagexp	Jul 13th, 2006 08:27:25 AM
I mean, I assume it's great, being a Mann film and all... but are there any defining moments, like those you talked about in the TV show? Do we get any Phil Collins? Is the Linkin Park/Jay-Z number actually in the film?
i for one cant wait to see this by JeanLuc Dickhard	Jul 13th, 2006 08:32:06 AM

no Jan Hammer theme? by BizarroJerry	Jul 13th, 2006 08:39:51 AM
C'mon! I don't expect it to be filled with 1980s music, or even have cheesy 1980s fashions, but not even a new version of the old theme song? At least have some annoying modern hip hop version or something. Dummies.
If IN THE AIR TONIGHT isn't in this... by G'ster	Jul 13th, 2006 08:43:06 AM
I'm boycotting the fucking movie! Nah, I'm kidding. But Phil Collins should be in the movie! That song and Miami Vice go together, bitches!
Yeah true IrishJoe... by brycemonkey	Jul 13th, 2006 08:47:12 AM
it's always dodgy reviewing an incomplete/unfinished movie. However Mori didn't address some of the main concerns raised before (the massive plot holes/problems, etc. etc stuff I said above). It could be because they weren't there anymore as they were fixed. Or that he glossed over them because he has serious Mann love. That's my favorite term 'Mann love'. Just saying is all. Peace.
In the air tonight is in the film... by bluelou_boyle	Jul 13th, 2006 08:48:03 AM
but it's the nonpoint version. Haven;t heard it myself. Mori, how does the music work ? Soundtrack list: In The Air Tonight - Nonpoint One Of These Mornings - Moby Feat Patti Labelle We're No Here - Mogwai Sinnerman (Felix Da Housecat Heavenly House Mix) - Nina Simone Auto Rock - Mogwai Arranca - Manzanita Ready For Love - India Arie Strict Machine - Goldfrapp Pennies In My Pocket - Emilio Estefan New World In My View - King Britt Sweep - Blue Foundation Anthem - Moby Blacklight Fantasy - Freaky Chakra Mercado Nuevo - John Murphy Who Are You - John Murphy Ramblas - King Britt & Tim Motzer, A-500 - Klaus Badelt & Mark Batson
goddamn, thank you Mori by Strabo	Jul 13th, 2006 09:08:16 AM
After all the poor reviews I've heard of this movie I was starting to get really scared. I had to assume that they just weren't the right audience. Your review says all the right things though. Thanks.
Jackpumpkinhead by moondoggy2u	Jul 13th, 2006 09:11:38 AM
Oh my god! That's the same look I've seen in a student's eye when he's just realized he bombed the final! Also, he does seem a bit too, twitchy, if you know what I mean. It wouldnt surprise me to learn he was on something at the time of the interview--he deffinitely seems strung out on something.
Miami Vice was a product of its time. by Uncapie	Jul 13th, 2006 09:12:27 AM
Its like a retred tire; don't buy it. Have no interest to see this.
Miami Vice : The Movie = Looks Like Shit People by TheDohDoh	Jul 13th, 2006 09:21:14 AM
Colin Farrel is so cheesy and so is Jamie Fox. That do not "drip cool" - and btw, yuck. Trust me, I live in Miami and this ain't no reflection. Miami is the poorest city in the world. Don't think this movie is going to be caca?? Read what Olmos said about coming back to his role. Exactamundo! http://ignoremagazine.com/feat ures/vicecity/index.html Miami Vice will bomb at the b.o.
Quiet You by Saluki	Jul 13th, 2006 09:21:27 AM
Miami Vice is about an ongoing War. As long as Miami exists, the Vice will exist. David Poland & Jeffrey Wells also loved it, and haven't agreed on anything in MONTHS. Cannot wait!
Not a fan of the TV show but... by JohnGalt06	Jul 13th, 2006 09:23:15 AM
I see no reason why a great director like Mann couldn't make his 80s creation into a terrific movie. Glad to hear he's not worried too much about continuity with the TV show. This is the last movie of the summer I have any real interest in seeing and I'll definitely have to check it out now.
Thanks for the review Mori. by Mr Nice Gaius	Jul 13th, 2006 09:26:01 AM
Mann's films have an intensity and intelligence that are truly unique in cinema. I'm a big fan so, count me in.
YESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYE S by jackinitraw	Jul 13th, 2006 09:28:39 AM
I knew it would be good! SONNY IS GONNA SAVE MY SUMMER!!!
HEAT: GREAT, The Insider: GREAT, Collateral: GREAT by digital8	Jul 13th, 2006 09:37:04 AM
Can't WAIT
Mori by lofe101	Jul 13th, 2006 09:43:24 AM
i respect your opinion and agree with you the most out of everyone on the site. in the previews i saw the tone looked exactly like you said. looks like ill be seeing this one. keep up the good work.
never seen the tv show by mikey mike	Jul 13th, 2006 09:48:24 AM
but I am going to see this HD shot movie
Echoing the thought others have stated... by veritasses	Jul 13th, 2006 09:49:04 AM
why the heck call this and associated it with "Miami Vice"? That series might have been "hip" back in the 80's but looking at it now it's just an embarassment. And while I like Foxx's acting and respect how much he's grown as an actor, in the interviews/talkshows he's been on he seems to have become the "I'm too smooth and cool" person which is a big turn off. Stay grounded dude. You're not Billy Dee Williams.
this is easily my most anticipated flick of the summer by reckni	Jul 13th, 2006 09:51:08 AM
Loved the TV show, but knowing Mann would make the R rated version gave me goosebumps. Plus he hasn't made a bad movie. And Gong Li is one of my favorites, so damn beautiful.
oh, and i hope castillo's desk is clean! by reckni	Jul 13th, 2006 09:51:42 AM

Really confused... by DanielKurland	Jul 13th, 2006 09:55:49 AM
I love Michael Mann a lot, which is why I was disappointed when everyone was saying this film was a disaster and Mann eve nsaid himself that things were going terribly, and that he was in reclusive editing mode trying to salvage it and it would take nothing short of a miracle to do so...But it's good? You enjoyed it? Well I may need to check it out. And yes, I do agree with the poster that stated, why even call it "Miami Vice".
A walking carnival of STD's and cross-eyed Sha-nay-nay by CreasyBear	Jul 13th, 2006 10:01:09 AM
redeemed by the man who brought us The Insider.
Michael Mann is the best action director working today. by Mr. Waturi	Jul 13th, 2006 10:01:30 AM
Finally, a movie that heterosexual men can watch.
This'll be much better than Supes Returns and Pirates 2 by slone13	Jul 13th, 2006 10:07:03 AM
Easily. Now that I think about it, CLERKS 2 was way better than Superman Returns and Pirates 2, as well...
this review offended me... by blackthought	Jul 13th, 2006 10:07:58 AM
just kidding...but i'm still pissed that whenever my country is represented in print everyone fucks up the spelling. It is not ColUmbia (like the fucking university, there's no U). It is ColOmbia...O's dammit. show some respect...I don't see anyone spelling Mexico Mexeco or Canada Canuda and crap. Oh and any michael mann movie has potential.
Don't take it personally, blackthought. by CreasyBear	Jul 13th, 2006 10:16:16 AM
This site ain't exactly a haven for English professors, iff u no wut i meen.
I had a feeling that this would be the movie... by Lost Skeleton	Jul 13th, 2006 10:30:54 AM
that people would remember as very cool from the Summer. Mann rarely disappoints and both Fox and Ferrell look and act cool as sh#t in this one.
Colombia, columber, its all a bunch of mexicans to me;) by moondoggy2u	Jul 13th, 2006 10:46:16 AM
Just kidding there, blackthought.
MORI: THE FOUNTAIN REVIEW by muerte_a_chavez	Jul 13th, 2006 10:52:22 AM
Mori please post the fountain review as soon as possible please, that's my most anticipated movie this year, please dont suck!
hey Columbia, stop sending me CDs by durhay	Jul 13th, 2006 10:55:44 AM
I cancelled long ago.
When she cries during sex, seemingly from joy..... by AARONIUS	Jul 13th, 2006 11:02:43 AM
Yeah, that's what I tell myself too.
I'm sure this will be a good film by Engineer_at_peac	Jul 13th, 2006 11:09:11 AM
But I don't really think it has an audience. I'm certainly not interested in it at all. I hadn't even heard of it till last week, and $150 million is a pretty damn big budget. I even like Michael Mann but I can't work up the motivation to go see the movie.
good review, mori by newc0253	Jul 13th, 2006 11:10:33 AM
i'd read some earlier reviews that seemed disappointing. thanks dude.
This will be a great film, period. by Chief Redcock	Jul 13th, 2006 11:24:00 AM

indeed by blackthought	Jul 13th, 2006 11:26:47 AM

Engineer_at_peac by Mr Nice Gaius	Jul 13th, 2006 11:40:03 AM
I see you saying stuff like this now in every TalkBack. You're like the sites new self-appointed Eeyore. I recommend you update your username. The fact that you couldn't figure out a way to include that final "e" is really pissing me off. ;^)
VICE VICE BABY!!! Can't wait! by R.C. the "Wise"	Jul 13th, 2006 11:40:35 AM

The reason it's called "Miami Vice": by oceansized	Jul 13th, 2006 11:46:11 AM
Is because of the built-in fanbase. You know, the hardcore fans of the original show, all 246 of them. And as silly as that sounds, it's more or less the actual reasoning behind such a decision.
This Movie is BAD... by Jered-Syn City	Jul 13th, 2006 11:47:58 AM
Ok, I saw this movie about a month and a half ago in Vegas. I love Micheal Mann and Miami Vice so I was excited
I think thats the 1st Vanilla Ice reference of '06, RC by oceansized	Jul 13th, 2006 11:51:01 AM
Congrats.
This show was good... by Kid Z	Jul 13th, 2006 11:51:38 AM
... for like, ONE season. Then it went on for four more and... NO ONE GAVE A SHIT! Why a TV-to-movie remake? 'Cause of that goddman TV Land, that's why! I HATE TV Land! Nostalgia-spewing crap factory!
mann's best film is: by mocky_puppet	Jul 13th, 2006 11:53:24 AM
"manhanter".
Sounds good to me by moviemaniac-7	Jul 13th, 2006 11:54:55 AM
But something in my heart would've loved a period piece from the 80s.
Nahh--far and away, his best film was "HEAT." by moondoggy2u	Jul 13th, 2006 11:56:03 AM

How about a remake of Benson? by Engineer_at_peac	Jul 13th, 2006 11:57:25 AM
Except this one has a darker tone, we find out that Clayton is actually Odo, an alien being from the late 24th century who was sent to the past ina time accident, accidentally killing the real Clayton, and taking his place so as not to disrupt the timeline.
Mann has no best film... all great, but probably "Heat" by modlight	Jul 13th, 2006 12:13:14 PM
I can't wait to see this, but if he wants to remake anything he should pull a Lucas and go back and update the effects on "The Keep" cause thats the only thing not perfect about that movie.
Mann's the man... no one has ever used that!! by RainJacket	Jul 13th, 2006 12:14:57 PM
The one thing I never trust is when someone says, "And everyone in the audience felt the movie was bad/good too and were all making fun/praising it" Never, ever trust the masses. I've come out of movies and have heard some of the stupidest comments someone could possibly say, the kind of thing that makes you wish the meteor would just strike this planet and end all life before it gets any worse. As a whole, they're all just idiots. And focus groups and people filling out cards for test screenings... most of them are pretty much the bottom of the barrel of people you can find. Which is what Hollywood wants, so there ya go. I have not seen this movie, and I will see it because that's what I like to do. All I have to go by is what Michael Mann has done in the past, and he's put together some quality pieces of work. Heat remains one of my all-time favorite films, and I almost fought a guy in a parking lot because he didn't like it. And I didn't fight him not because I held restraint, but because he was bigger than me and would've kicked my ass all over. If not, we woulda thrown down. But I must admit, I haven't been gettin' good vibes from this. I liked Collateral, but I was still disappointed in it. I tend to trust Mori, so I'll wait and see.
RainJacket.. that is awesome by modlight	Jul 13th, 2006 12:18:32 PM
You were ready to fight because you watched that badass movie and its awesomeness kept you sharp, on the edge, where you had to be. Thats almost as good as the time a friend told me he kicked a long time girlfriend out of his apartment and broke up with her because he finally showed her Strangelove, his fave movie, and she didn't like it or get it.
I'm with you mocky! by brycemonkey	Jul 13th, 2006 12:29:19 PM
I LOVE Manhunter (my fav Hanible movie too). And frg10 music and action in Manhunter is cool as hell too.
wow-you guys really feel that strongly about your films by moondoggy2u	Jul 13th, 2006 12:30:14 PM
If I felt that way about my films, yeesh, I dont think my wife and I would have eve talked to each other after the first date. She hates Star Wars (only got through the first half of the 77 movie), has never seen Indiana Jones, doesnt feel Bill Murry is funny, has yet to watch LOTR, though she is interested, and doesnt really like to watch R-rated films and hates the 3 stooges. Oh, and the movies she goes out of her way to see? Baby's day out, Paulie, How Green is my Valley, Serendipity, My big Fat Greek Wedding, and the Cosby Show. Oh yeah, and she's a democrat and I'm a republican. We're like a living sitcom, arent we?
Why? by Crash Crator	Jul 13th, 2006 12:37:35 PM
Why does Moriarty do this?:
moondoggy, I think you're a closet democrat... by modlight	Jul 13th, 2006 12:41:03 PM
You live with one, strike one, Bill Murry fan, Strike two, and you have a severe lack of conviction about standing up for things you belive in, in this case your fav movies. Only a democrat can feel that strongly about something and not take any action. BTW, I'm a democrat.
crash crator by mocky_puppet	Jul 13th, 2006 12:41:31 PM
no. try ebert.
"God Moving Over the Face Of the Waters"... by Mr Nice Gaius	Jul 13th, 2006 12:44:40 PM
...is one of the most amazing pieces of music ever. Something about that song is really quite stirring. Good call frg10; it's a perfectly composed scene. (I think "Syriana" used the track in their TV adds, too.) Mann has done this a couple other times as well - the music that plays during the final chase/battle scene in "Last of the Mohicans" and the music that plays when Wil Graham figures out how Dollarhyde is choosing his victims in "Manhunter" (one of my personal favorite moments). Great blends of music and images.
one time by rubensreviews	Jul 13th, 2006 12:47:16 PM
one time I thought it was Michael Mann doing Transformers, then I realized it was Michael Bay. I was sad.... true story
Who cares about this when the BEERFEST trailer is up?! by Darth Bauer	Jul 13th, 2006 12:56:03 PM
http://beerfestmovie.warnerbro s.com/
Moriarty's right......it kicks ass by earl of sandwich	Jul 13th, 2006 01:03:51 PM
Saw it on Tuesday. For the first 20 minutes, you are completely on your own. A total voyuer into their world with no one to hold your hand and explain what's going on. It's actually quite exhilarating. The camera work is amazing, as you would expect. The story, once it starts, makes you completey lose track of time. I feel almost the exact same way about this movie as I did watching Heat the first time, I wished it would have gone on for hours. I was suprised that the 2 1/2 hours went by so fast, the story & perfomances are that good. And when the violence starts, holy shit, a 30odd6 (sp?) sure does make a mess of a person. The music is suprisingly very low key, considering how much of a character it was in the origional TV show. The songs are well chosen and the Mogwai (I actually thought it was Pelican at first) stuff works especially well (very Friday Night Light's ish...another great soundtrack) And everyone bitching about why they called it Miami Vice if everyone isn't wearing pink shirts and no socks......it takes place in Miami...they are Vice cops. They movie is about how their jobs being MIAMI VICE COPS! affects their lives. Dipshits.
So stoked Mori liked this... by Tony Mike Hall	Jul 13th, 2006 01:05:42 PM
Means it will be decent at worst, and awesome at best. And, as Michael Mann fan, that gives me an enormous chubby. Fuck you, you naysayers.
It could be good by Vern	Jul 13th, 2006 01:06:53 PM
I'm kind of skeptical due to 1. I like Jamie Foxx, but he's no Philip Michael Thomas 2. never liked a Colin Farrell movie in my life 3. I heard they wear socks in this which is BULLSHIT. But Michael Mann can be pretty good. I liked COLLATERAL, I liked THIEF, ALI was a decent try at an impossible feat. I predict that I will like the movie and then lose some respect for it when I listen to Mann being a pretentious jackass on the DVD commentary.
Mann's commentary tracks are hilarious by Vern	Jul 13th, 2006 01:10:05 PM
This is a followup to my previous talkback. Does anybody else listen to Mann's commentary tracks and squirm? I have noticed that that motherfucker has what you would call an EXTREMELY HIGH opinion of himself. The funniest one is COLLATERAL where he goes on for probaly more than ten minutes about the backstory he made up for Tom Cruise's character. There is a long discussion of the fictional character's feelings about jazz music and how that ties into his relationship with his father.
Mann's high opinion of himself is deserved by Tony Mike Hall	Jul 13th, 2006 01:13:19 PM
Collateral, Heat, Ali, The Insider, Last of the Mohicans, and even Manhunter were all great films. Even if you consider some of them merely adequate, he has no misses - none of them out-and-out SUCKED. He deserves his ego - thos are the people, incidentally, who get shit done.
Mann's a hell of a director by Brock Samson	Jul 13th, 2006 01:15:36 PM
I agree with Tony Mike Hall, I don't think he's ever made a BAD movie. Some shaky ones, but all have more going for them than against them. I'm now totally stoked for this flick.
Vern by Mr Nice Gaius	Jul 13th, 2006 01:19:13 PM
I'm sort of with you on the commentary tracks. Mann's been described as a very "precise" individual. He works on films for a very long time, laboring over ever detail long before he actually starts shooting. Which I guess means that he's kind of a prick in his pursuit of the precise. But you are dead-on regarding the backstory he made up for Cruise's character - what a load of B.S.!!! It might have been impressive if any of that made it into the flick. Instead, it becomes DVD commentary fodder and the kind of self-indulgent nonsense Cruise loves talking about whenever discussing his "process".
I'd like to remind everyone of Theif in case anyone by modlight	Jul 13th, 2006 01:23:24 PM
who is a fan of Heat hasn't seen it. Its almost a prequel to Heat... Thats all.
Was there a review in that long rambling article? by StudioPlant69	Jul 13th, 2006 01:27:46 PM
Much Love! gfy
One thing I will always love about this site... by Traumnovelle	Jul 13th, 2006 01:41:03 PM
...is you know it's time to get serious and hunker down for a REAL flick when Harry or Moriarty label the article as "Moriarty reviews Michael Mann's Miami Vice". Nothing funny. Not "Harry snorts up a line of Miami Vice" or something ribtickling and humorous (or so THEY would think) like that. This is some real shit now. No time to fuck around. God I can't wait for this movie. Michael Mann fucking rules.
GONG LI by topaz4206	Jul 13th, 2006 01:44:10 PM
She has imperfections? Where?
Vern: Best commentary track I've heard... by brycemonkey	Jul 13th, 2006 01:44:59 PM
The Ferris Buller's Day Off John Hughes commentary is great. He spends a lot of the time criticising the movie and his work and applogizing to the viewer.
hey Earl of Sandwich by Ray Garraty #47	Jul 13th, 2006 01:47:26 PM
You are looking for the term "Thirty Ought Six," which is the way a lot of people describe a .30-06 rifle. They use the term "Ought" to mean "zero." Like buckshot, size 00, is described as Double Ought Buckshot, or the way some people suggested calling this decade (2000's) as the "Oughts." I don;t know where that came from, but there's your spelling trivia for the day. And yes, having seen what a .30-06 will do to a deer, I'd imagine it will make a mess of a person. :)
frg10: Yeah man. That scene it HEAT rocked. by R.C. the "Wise"	Jul 13th, 2006 01:53:17 PM
Very Anime. Love that film. I think the only error in that film is the sit down scene between Pacino and DeNiro. Mann elects to cut back and forth with front shots of each actor as they say their dialogue (with only a couple of occasions cutting back to show the each character's reaction {I realize he was going for a kind of Tennis court exchange of bravado but it just seemed wasted when you got two of the greatest actors looking at each other mano y mano). Because of the historic cinematic "event" of that interaction of those giant actors, Mann should've pulled the camera back and given us a two shot of the actors (profile shot) while only cuting to a couple of quick front shots for their reactions. The scene could've been one of the greatest acting scenes ever. Hell, it still almost is.
Moondoggy, I'm a democrat and my advice is by R.C. the "Wise"	Jul 13th, 2006 01:55:37 PM
talk to a divorce lawyer immediately. Hahaha! j/k. Seriously though, she needs to broaden her horizens.
You shouldn't talk that way about Bob. by BrandLoyalist	Jul 13th, 2006 01:56:50 PM
(Just couldn't leave the Bob McKee reference alone :). HEAT's one of my N favorite movies ever, despite Pacino's bizarre awkward outbursts (improv?) and the ridiculous body doubles. I'm sadly behind on Mann's films; gotta try to see this while it's in theaters. One more thing: my coffee cup is raised in tribute to the two guys I knew in high school who had the balls yet the incredibly bad judgement to show up in MV-style white cotton suits and t-shirts (and yes, loafers with no socks), which kind of stood out amid all the Motorhead concert shirts and Eagles jerseys. Salut!
Thanks Ray by earl of sandwich	Jul 13th, 2006 02:00:00 PM
Why do I hear Bill Murray's voice as I type that subject line..... Anyways, thanks for the gun clarification. That sucker makes a pair of appearances in the movie and does a shitload of damage to a couple cars and a few unlucky fellas. Ouch.
Moondoggy! by Traumnovelle	Jul 13th, 2006 02:14:32 PM
YES! I have dated women who are into films, and that shit just does NOT work out. Unless they agreed with every single one of my extremely strong and stubborn opinions, it would always lead to problems. And I don't feel as strongly about ANYTHING as I do about movies. So, say my favorite sci-fi movie is 2001....if they disagreed with that, I would get mad and annoyed, but then it would fester deep inside me until the point of actual HATRED for that particular girl. So, anyway, long story short, I am with my current girlfriend who couldn't give two shits about movies, and I couldn't be happier. Like Jerry said, "I can't be with someone like me...I hate myself!"
BrandLoyalist - "Pacino's bizarre awkward outbursts" by Mr Nice Gaius	Jul 13th, 2006 02:18:22 PM
You gotta admit that some of them are pricesless. Like: "Bon voyage, motherfucker!" and "Don't waste my motherfuckin' time!". Apparently, Pacino's character was supposed to be doing quite a bit of coke in the movie and would provide the reasoning behind his over-the-top outbursts. Mann chose to cut those moments out of the film because it put his character at odds with bringing Deniro down. Or some shite like that.
awesome review by Toe Jam	Jul 13th, 2006 02:19:59 PM
glad to hear this movie will likely be as awesome as i had hoped. michael mann is my favorite director working today. the cinematography and mood of his films -- even the more outrageous ones -- make you feel like you're watching that shit for real, almost like a good newspaper article about some big-time shit come to life.
edward james olmos ... by Toe Jam	Jul 13th, 2006 02:27:40 PM
didn't that douche bag bitch about how crappy the "battlestar galactica" was going to be, only to have it end up getting rave reviews and spawning a critically adored series? why do people even hire this asshole if all he does is gripe about the end product?
YEEESSS! by CurryIce	Jul 13th, 2006 02:32:26 PM
THX, Moriarty! Finally a very positive review and i can't wait to see it. It's Michael Mann for chrissake!
CANNOT FUCKIN WAIT FOR THIS MOTHER FUCKER. by alucardvsdracula	Jul 13th, 2006 02:36:37 PM
Mr Mann you da man.
"god moving over the face of the waters" ... by Toe Jam	Jul 13th, 2006 02:37:40 PM
yes, it really is a brilliant composition. i think it could instantly make any movie great just by its inclusion. this may sound lame, but i run the entire gamut of human emotions any time i listen to that song. it gives me goosebumps.
more Pacino Heat improv outbursts by Julius Dithers	Jul 13th, 2006 02:47:32 PM
"She's got a BIG ASS!!" (At that time Ashley Judd did.) and "Sorry don't walk the doggie!" (Next time you see Tone-Loc, yell that at him.) As for Mann and Vice: he's a master filmmaker so that's in the movie's favor. I would be worried if they did try to work in cameos or references to the TV show. That would be corny, which none of Mann's films are.
Toe Jam by Mr Nice Gaius	Jul 13th, 2006 02:50:17 PM
The first time I ever heard that piece of music was during a Discovery/A&E Channel special on the Apollo moon landings. They played it during the closing segment as a moon lander was beginning its descent to the lunar surface. Honestly, it made me tear up. I think it's a combination of musical elements (loops, chords, melody) that come together in such a way as to actually create an emotional response. (I know there is a name for this sort of phenomena but it escapes me!) Anyway, it's rare that a certain piece of music has this sort of effect...but when it does, it's special.
Toe Jam, Julius Dithers... by Strabo	Jul 13th, 2006 02:53:32 PM
It's "She's got a GREAT ASS!". Also, Toe, EJO didn't say BSG was going to be crappy, he just said that fans of the original series wouldn't like it because they want the campy crap sci-fi of the 70's, instead of the gritty drama of the 00's.
Heat was a remake of L.A. Takedown by Uncapie	Jul 13th, 2006 03:03:07 PM
You movie "experts" should know this.
God moving over the face of the waters... by earl of sandwich	Jul 13th, 2006 03:22:49 PM
Just took a listen to that song since everyone is going on about it. Can't honestly say that it left an impression on me while watching Heat though. If you dig that song, definatley check out the music of modern classical composer Steve Reich. He's every post rock/IDM boys hero, for a good goddam reason. Music for 18 Musicans is the one of the most beautiful pieces of music ever written in my opinion. Check it out.
Manhanter was pretty good by WolfmanNards	Jul 13th, 2006 03:36:22 PM
I think Manhanter is my favorite in the hannibal series.
an u.n.k.l.e. remix? by Toe Jam	Jul 13th, 2006 03:40:19 PM
i'm totally there.
manhanter had atmosphere. by mocky_puppet	Jul 13th, 2006 03:46:42 PM
manhanter was the prototype. it spawned numerus copys. wolfman's nards is so right.
Excellent review. by monorail77	Jul 13th, 2006 04:02:44 PM
I now want to see this. Thanks again Mori for a terific review.
RIP Red Buttons by ExcaliburFfolkes	Jul 13th, 2006 04:31:26 PM
I was always impressed how he managed to snag the cute young singer while escaping from the Poseidon. An example to us all.
Bring it on by Stollentroll	Jul 13th, 2006 04:34:21 PM
I'm sick and tired of reading about Superman Returns, Monsters House and Adam Sandler. Thank you Mori for reviewing a REAL movie.
I remember some review posted awhile back.. by Cotton McKnight	Jul 13th, 2006 04:52:21 PM
that sounded like a completely different movie. they start out on a boat and blah blah blah boring. Second point- why isn't Harry portrayed as Dorothy in that 10th anniversary poster?
where's the news on AICN about no sequel to Superman? by lynxpro	Jul 13th, 2006 05:03:34 PM
If it doesn't make it past $200 million domestically, no sequel. Just reported. Maybe the AICN payoff from the WB stipulates against reporting that. Heh, Smallville owns Bryan Singer's azz.
OVERRATED by LeFlambeur	Jul 13th, 2006 05:23:54 PM
Heat was good, Ali was a joke, and the otherwise magnificant Collateral gradually fell apart in the second half. If Mann can make a whole film as good as the first half of Collateral he will have truely done something special. But I don't see that happening.
Crockett was morally gray, in spite of the pastel suits by SalvatoreGravano	Jul 13th, 2006 05:46:16 PM
He kept a specimen of an endangered species in a dark cramped room, on a heavy steel chain. Evil. Plus, he committed thousands of fashion crimes on daily basis.
by AyebKraken	Jul 13th, 2006 06:11:44 PM

Miami Vice before Lady in the water? by AyebKraken	Jul 13th, 2006 06:15:03 PM
It has to be better than the nostalgic Miami Vice.
Where is the report on the Super Returns sequel? by spectrebeeyatch	Jul 13th, 2006 06:20:08 PM
Seems the profit already seems to be enough for WB to make another one. Since everyone is hired for a second. Just hope they have a more fun bad guy in the next one like Brainiac or something. ANYWAY Miami Vice looks alright I'll see it I trust Mann and this review
Moriarty has seen The Fountain. by Cameron1	Jul 13th, 2006 06:42:49 PM
He rates it excellent. Fantastic news.
Loved the TV series until... by Agent sith	Jul 13th, 2006 06:56:16 PM
..the disapointing 4th season y'know the one where crockett sports a mullet and tubbs looking like a bearded GI Joe. (sans kung fu grip)in a desperate attempt to recapture the magic of the first season crokett is back to wearing those tired blazers with pastel shirts. (too many viewers complained how dark and brooding the direction took when Dick wolf helmed the 3rd season. i actually thought it was one of best.who can forget the last minutes of Stone's war,The good collar and Killshot? Anyway i have high hopes for the movie,especially since it's the only TV based remake i will invest my $10.00 on. Mann is the Man
When I saw 'King Kong' in the theatres... by Bobo_Vision	Jul 13th, 2006 07:39:02 PM
...the first trailer for 'Miami Vice' was screened. Everyone was excited in anticipation to see 'King Kong', and we were all silent waiting for it to begin. Then the sound of Jay-Z's song 'Encore' came on with the steel drums. There were flashes of images in Miami night clubs of Colin Farrell, then Jamie Foxx, and then Colin Farrell and Jamie Foxx together. It became clear to everyone in the audience which trailer we were watching for the first time as these somewhat homoerotic images were on the screen, and then one guy yelled out an enthusiastic 'OHHHHHHH YEEEEAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!' with a tiny hint of sarcasm, and we all burst out laughing. In that moment, the audience was united, and that guy single-handedly broke the ice and brought us all together. People gave him high fives and slapped him on his back, and he glowed with pride at his well timed comment. That being said, I'm looking forward to this.
Wow Mori. That was a good review. I trust you on this by Samuel Steamer	Jul 13th, 2006 08:13:25 PM

Finally, a movie worth getting excited about. by Nate Champion	Jul 13th, 2006 08:19:43 PM
You can take Pirates, Superman, and the rest of that bullshit and shove it up Ashley Judd's ass. I can't wait to see this... I advise all to check out the film's website for some tasty clips... and if the music on the website is the music from the film it should give you a damn straight idea of where Mann is coming from on this one.
Love Mann movies by tompbeast	Jul 13th, 2006 08:37:02 PM
except collateral coz it looks grainy as fuck like he shot it on VHS and aparently this too! Ho Hum! least it goes to daylight and loses the grain! might be able to handle it if it's not all at night! what was wrong with the gorgeous FILM he shot Heat on!?
Jan Hammer themes are in the movie........ by jegoing74	Jul 13th, 2006 09:00:31 PM
I hear refrains of the Crockett theme on the films official site.
This movie has a character called Alonzo and he dies... by Alonzo Mosely	Jul 13th, 2006 09:42:27 PM
That is an obvious dig at me, and I will be boycotting the movie in protest.
I used to think Mann was great by FluffyUnbound	Jul 13th, 2006 09:57:18 PM
But his work doesn't age well. Exhibit 1: Miami Vice. Once cool, now the epitome of uncool. Exhibit 2: Manhunter. Once seemingly brilliant and intense, now obviously a tangled morass of overwrought mood shots, self-importance, and psychobabble. Heat will be turning into Exhibit 3 in a couple more years, mark my words. It's already starting. A couple more years and it will be the cops and robbers Top Gun, just wait.
SPOILER ALERT: Tubbs is actually a vampire. by masticators	Jul 13th, 2006 10:20:41 PM
Also, Vanilla Ice has a cameo...as a drug dealer...who has uncontrollable diarrhea...
Bah... by MarkoOhNo	Jul 13th, 2006 10:26:12 PM
I never really got into the tv series. And with the 53 different CSI shows on the air right now, I'm completely repulsed by crime drama. Good review, though. Sounds like it could be good, but I'm not gonna see it... not even gonna download via bittorrent. And in 20 years when there's a movie version of American Idol, I'm not gonna see that either for all the same reasons, and then some. lol My loss? Maybe. I don't care.
This film was well received from the earliest by Robert Trevelyan	Jul 13th, 2006 10:40:42 PM
A couple persons have mentioned some supposedly bad early reviews for this film, coupled with the rumors of supposedly bad dialogue, and a supposedly out-of-control budget, and I have only one question to ask? Where the hell did these rumors start? The same New York Post gossip column that said Colin Farrell was fat and Jamie Foxx was battling with Michael Mann? because that column has been the only source for just about every horror story repeated verbatim about this film from the budget to the constant editing. The reviews posted on AICN from various test screenings were all very positive. To quote Merrick from April 12th: "nearly all feedback I
Do we at least get Colin Farrell in a peach blazer? by GreatWhiteNoise	Jul 13th, 2006 10:58:15 PM
A Glenn Frey cameo? White Ferrari? No? Bah.
It's called "Miami Vice" to keep the trademark in use. by Flim Springfield	Jul 13th, 2006 11:16:08 PM
That's about it.
Can you feel the HEAT? by AlwaysThere	Jul 13th, 2006 11:37:14 PM
Can't wait for this movie to come out.
Its called Miami Vice because by jamz666	Jul 14th, 2006 03:06:56 AM
they work for the Miami Police Department in the Vice Sqaued, I think its just coincidence that there is a TV show by the same name. Narf.
Why are you concerned with the by Unaju	Jul 14th, 2006 03:51:14 AM
movie title? why call it heat? why call it anything? shit. why go see it? why bother seeing a movie when you have your mind made up already? why not just go see a typical remake like one of those comic book movies? ps. it really fucks up the conversation when people confuse Mann with Bay. I know a few people that make the mistake everytime I mention Mann. You mean that greatest basketball player or do you mean the freak?
My favourite Mann film is.,.. by Bobo_Vision	Jul 14th, 2006 04:10:39 AM
Juwanna Mann.
So what do they drive? by The Selecter	Jul 14th, 2006 04:24:06 AM
The car was a supporting character in the TV series. Leeme guess, some ultra-expensive car horribly disfigured by 30" chrome wheels slapped on by hacks who fancy themselves "tuners"?
I Have A Complaint About Miami Vice!!! by MetalWater	Jul 14th, 2006 05:44:09 AM
Yes, despite this review, I have a major and devastating complaint about Miami Vice...a pretty big one that will doom its once promising box office prospects!!! And what is my complaint, you ask?...Something so harsh that this film could be all but destroyed before it is even released in theatres??? Well, I'm sure some of you have already guessed what I am about to say...while others, among you, are wondering what could be this great problem with the film?...One that could harm the film version of Miami Vice inspite of such a powerful and affirming film review as presented above. Instead of keeping you all in locked suspense any longer...I'll just come out and say it!!! This film is doomed to failure based on the Trojan Horse that haunts so many movies today...and that's a bad Ad campaign!!! The commercials and trailers for this film are not doing a very good job of selling it to consumers. Hell, as a fan of Michael Mann, I could use a new and better series of cuts of the commercials and trailers...ads that give us the old flashy and once innovative so called...MTV style editing of the early 80s. I'm not talking about the new bullshit MTV stuff that I, and everybody else, hates!!!...No, I'm talking about the styles that inspired the Miami Vice tv show in the first place!!! And in terms of the score, I could stand to hear Yan (spelling?)Hammer's original theme music and Phil Collin's "Air Of Night" complementing the visuals. As it stands...the film looks like a typical buddy cop film...and a boring one at that!!! Give us some flash...and sex up the edit...Make it move faster...Give us some narrative dialogue that clues us in on the direction of the film's plot!!! Is that too much to ask??? Michael Mann is an important voice in film making and in the arts as a whole...I would simply like to see the great vision of his art advertised and promoted properly in order to give it the competitive and healthy life at the box office that it deserves!!!
SNAKES IN MIAMI! by JackPumpkinhead	Jul 14th, 2006 05:53:18 AM
We've got MUHFUGGIN' SHARKS ON THE BEACH!
MetalWater : I agree on bad ad campaign! by CurryIce	Jul 14th, 2006 07:27:26 AM
It's always frustrating to see all the bad trailers and teaser posters for several movies and how they are perceived from the average audience. It's like committing suicide in the box office.
READ THIS AWESOME "THE FOUNTAIN"-review by Devin! by CurryIce	Jul 14th, 2006 08:50:57 AM
Incredible review by Devin on chud! http://tinyurl.com/q2fa4
Beautifully written review Mori, cant fuckin wait by Winkleboy	Jul 14th, 2006 10:06:58 AM
As always a great review Mori and ive been looking forward to this since it was announced. It if anything is further proof that idiots who write in from unfinished test screening for the most part haven't a fucking clue what there on about. Mann is the best director working today. Simple as that.
Mann is going to get sued by the makers of that old TV by brycemonkey	Jul 14th, 2006 10:08:45 AM
show. No way he could rip their title and plot and get away with it! Shameless Hack!
The Selector = cars by earl of sandwich	Jul 14th, 2006 11:30:55 AM
Crocket Silver Ferrari f430 convertable Tubbs White BMW 6 series convertable
"She's never been this good in a western film before." by la_sith	Jul 14th, 2006 12:23:25 PM
Umm....When was Gong in a western?
I'm not saying this is gonna... by Harysuxafat1	Jul 14th, 2006 01:16:26 PM
suck, but if the dialogue is anything like what was heard in the trailer it will unintetionally be like going to see Starsky & Hutch. I'll pass on this one.
Can't wait... by decfx	Jul 14th, 2006 01:37:28 PM
for this to fail. What was the point of making it?
Can't wait... by decfx	Jul 14th, 2006 01:37:39 PM
for this to fail. What was the point of making it?
Flim_'s field guide for film and video by Flim_	Jul 14th, 2006 01:54:00 PM
In the theatres of North America, and indeed, The World, it is common to find motion picture entertainment of the genus 'film'. These can easily be recognised if you know what to look for. Traits such as ovoid lens flare, smooth colour representation, and the ability to photograph in the dark without it looking like One Night in Paris... These are all peculiar to movies of the 'film' genus. An easy way to tell if the movie has been shot on an anamorphic lens is to look at out-of-focus lights in the distance; are they circular or ovoid? If they are circular, then it was probably shot on 35mm, most likely in the now-popular Super35 process. Ovoid lights indicate that a Panavision, Arriflex, or Technovision anamorphic squeeze was used. A simpler and indeed easier way to distinguish them is to just ask yourself, "Does this look good, or does this look like a bag of shite and a bunch of arse?" If the answer to your question is 'yes', then you can be assured with a high degree of certainty that it is NOT anamorphic. The genus which is more commonly being found in cinematheques around the world is 'digital', and can be identified using a modified, but similar, question, "Does this cinema feature appear to have been shot through a feces-coloured jello mold by my 13 year-old ritalin-denied sugar addled nephew Jimbo?" If the answer to this question is 'yes', then you are watching a movie of the genus 'digital', and it is probably SUPERMAN RETURNS. If you would like to know which shots were filmed, and which shots were videoed in a movie (MIAMI VICE, for example), simply apply the same questions to individual scenes within the larger picture. If the cigarette boat race looks quite good, and somewhat like 'a movie', then it was filmed on Super35. If the explosions and night shots look as though they were part of your family's ill-fated summer trip to the bubbling acid pits of Yellowstone Nat'l Park, then it was shot on 'digital'. Caveat: If the motion picture is directed by Michael Mann, who has a penchant for seeing 'into the night', and is a master craftsman of mood and environment, then all bets are off, and 'digital' becomes a tool, not just a spurious cost-saving tactic that has never looked even remotely good anywhere else.
Brycemonkey!!! by MetalWater	Jul 14th, 2006 07:29:37 PM
Brycemonkey...You must be kidding, right? But in case you aren't...Michael Mann created the Miami Vice tv show!!! He can't sue himself...or can he???
hey Earl of Sandwich and Ray Garraty by Chet Desmond	Jul 14th, 2006 07:38:06 PM
The gun in question is actually a Barrett 50cal sniper rifle (probably an M107)...serious firepower.
So utterly dissappointed... by Damer1	Jul 15th, 2006 12:12:22 AM
with this summers fare and I'm hoping beyond all hope that this doesn't suck.
Wasn't going to see this,. until I read this review. by hallmitchell	Jul 15th, 2006 12:45:28 AM
This is the review that I was hoping to read about Miami Vice. Intense, nightclubs and truckloads of cocaine. I'm there. Note to studio - recut the trailer.
Combining intense drama and action by NoHubris	Jul 15th, 2006 01:17:08 PM
is what Mann does best. It's not the typical formula. Regarding 80's TV, most hasn't help up well, but when it comes to movie remakes of 80s TV, I'll take Mann's stuff all day. Crime Story (Torello! Ray Luca!) holds up well and would also be a good Mann directed movie IMO.
What about the love scene... by mrfan	Jul 15th, 2006 09:52:17 PM
between Zito and Switek. Was that cut for time. I was hoping that to see a Miami version of Brokeback Mountain. Come on people. They didn't spend all that time in that exterminator van for nothing.
Finally, a proper Miami action/cop thriller movie? by ArkadyRenko	Jul 16th, 2006 05:13:39 AM
Finally, a filmmaker made a proper action/cop thriller movie set in Miami, unl
Well said ArkadyRenko by kwisatzhaderach	Jul 16th, 2006 07:14:17 AM
Michael Mann is the real deal. The Keep, Manhunter, Last of the Mohicans, Heat, The Insider, Ali, Collateral...hell of a track record. Now you're finished with Miami Vice what about that long promised THE KEEP extended DVD Mr Mann?
by Lenonn	Jul 16th, 2006 03:56:22 PM
Regarding what Toe Jam said: Olmos never said the new BATTLESTAR GALACTICA was bad. He just said that if you can't accept the changes made from the old version that it was probably best not to watch it.
About that link to Singer's interview about POTC2 by ArkadyRenko	Jul 16th, 2006 03:59:38 PM
It breaks my heart to see Brian Singer so depressed and at a loss because of the box office beating his movie is getting from that Pirates movie. I truly feel very sorry for him, and i also get embaraced by osmosis for his embaracement when he stutters and is at a loss for words in that clip .. and at the same time, it's also perversally funny too!
Some "Review" by Pato	Jul 16th, 2006 08:02:01 PM
Thanks for the excellent synopsis, jackass. Can't a critic -- Roger Ebert included -- REVIEW a movie rather than simply reveal plot points and thus ruin any sense of surprise or other reason we might have for going to see the film in the first place? Hint, don't say "I liked the movie because of the scene when..." I know, I know, reviews are hard to write whenever you just say what you saw, but actually it's done all the time. Take A.O. Scott's reviews, for example. Oh well, I guess that's what makes AintItCool the site that it is.
Tom Rothman by glodene	Jul 17th, 2006 01:13:32 AM
I bet he's laughing his ass off knowing that X3 has out-grossed SR and that eventually he'll run into Singer at some restaurant or showbiz function and will probably greet him with a smug (whaddup bitch) smile.
I think what singer will do next is by emeraldboy	Jul 17th, 2006 09:00:56 AM
go away for a while, put this "failure" behind him and come back with a great film. in other words work hard on that superman sequel for 2009, lose that maroon cape, lose kate bosworth, re-hire hugh laurie has perry white. the great JK simmons(the best thing in spiderman 2) says that Raimi is mulling over doing spiderman 4. Regarding singer, he should leave comic book movies alone for a while and do something else and come back to them in a couple of years.
emeraldboy: Are the fish and chips still good... by brycemonkey	Jul 17th, 2006 09:27:08 AM
in your neck of the woods? I saw in the other TB you are form the coast near Dublin. I nearly took a job there a while back. Nice part of the world... And MetalWater, I was indeed kidding :-P
I wanna see a big fucking sci fi outerspace kick ass ma by skiff	Jul 18th, 2006 03:44:37 AM
I wanna see space stations dogfights with coolships is lucas the only one who can make movies like that. Is there not some one out there who can take starwars to the next level. Please no more matador, collateral, or new world boring shit.
by MRJONZ72	Jul 18th, 2006 11:47:32 AM
For the record Anthony Yerkovich created Miami Vice. Michael Mann was the Executive Producer. I'm sure he had influence all over it though. Especially Style. la_sith. Are you just joking? He means Western as in American, North America etc...not like cowboys type of western.
Great review, Moriarty. by Gilkuliehe	Sep 16th, 2006 12:28:10 PM
I found myself thinking the exact same thing about the way handles the exposition (or lack of it) in the film opening. Pure Mann... It is amazing how you can tell you're in Mann's world right away. Great review for a great film, so kudos to you.

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