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Brainiac!! Jor-El!! Zod!! The WB's Last SMALLVILLE!!

Smallville sucks by Preditor74	May 11th, 2006 12:36:18 AM
Done
by ManDevil	May 11th, 2006 12:47:08 AM

Smallville sucks by JediShaft	May 11th, 2006 12:52:36 AM
Agreed
Lex's new powers? by Retlaw Kciuq	May 11th, 2006 01:01:44 AM
Do we discover that he's really a Kryptonian like in that Abrams script? Seriously though, where the fuck did the storyline take the Smallville universe?
smallville is ass by Screwdriver	May 11th, 2006 01:31:39 AM
it is brutal!
Lex was injected by Brainiac last week. by Shermdawg	May 11th, 2006 01:46:50 AM
He has a bio-mechanical healing factor of some sorts. Thus leading us to believe, he will be assimilated or what not by the Brainiac collective. A "Lexiac" if you will. All I know is, him and Clark are gonna throw down. As cool as that sounds, I seriously doubt it can top last years finale. It aired the same night ROTS opened, and I gotta tell ya, I was a little shocked that I enjoyed it more than Star Wars. And it will no way, shape, or form compare to the season finale of a show, that I'm not allowed to menton. (If you watch SMALLVILLE, you know what show I'm talkin' about.) Also, in this episode, look for the Superman Returns trailer. They haven't aired it yet, and this is their last chance. (SMALLVILLE deserves the flick though.) I wouldn't be surprised if it ran against the X3 preview over at Fox at 8:30. One more thing, now that it pretty much has been picked up for next year, expect the long promised Martian Manhunter episode. There was even a hint dropped that he will be the new SMALLVILLE sherrif. "The new sherrif, is a bit green." Also, TV GUIDE speculated that Bruce Wayne could even show up in the future. But I'm calling bullshit on that one.
Hey HERC, It's "Everybody Hates Chris" by Shermdawg	May 11th, 2006 01:59:18 AM
You've been watching to much Raymond. lol
A Connection between This & Superman Returns??! by Ines5	May 11th, 2006 03:34:40 AM
For over a Year now There have been Reports from Many Trusted News Websites that Director Bryan Singer had got Together with the Producers of Smallville and that They were infact plaining some kind of Connection between the Television Series Smallville and The New Film Superman Returns. Could This be True? Has There been Any New Info About This???
also by longshot7	May 11th, 2006 04:16:50 AM
WWE Friday Night Smackdown is confirmed as to returning in the Fall.
Please let Veronica Mars make it to the CW. by Andy Dufresne	May 11th, 2006 04:23:04 AM
One of the best shows on TV for me, along with BSG, House and Lost.
Ines5 by Playhouse	May 11th, 2006 04:45:10 AM
I think the connection was just that they were both referencing Donner's film as a source material.
We'll see. by TempusFugitive	May 11th, 2006 06:59:12 AM
I still think that Smallville hit its apex with the finale (think it was a couple of seasons ago) that featured all kinds of bad things happening while Lionel slowly shaved his head in prison. Lex getting shot, Chloes house exploding, Johnathan having a heart attack... all done to a swelling score that didn't include any obligatore Warner Brothers pop artists. I remember after the episode ended thinking "Wow, now THAT'S a season finale!" Of course, now they've killed off Pa Kent, and Clark and Lana are having "Who can demonstrate less acting ability" contests on a regular basis. Meh.
Ines5 by Shermdawg	May 11th, 2006 07:03:58 AM
What I heard, is Singer and co. wanted them to kill off Johnboy early so people wouldn't get confused. Which makes no god damn sense at all because they are two different properties. But, to further this rumor, Schnieder was said to be shocked that he was getting booted, so maybe if it wasn't for the flick he might still be working on that damn tractor. Which was totaled in the last episode when a shapeshifting Brainiac (as the late Pa Kent) attacked Clark and Lionel.
TempusFugitive by Shermdawg	May 11th, 2006 07:06:29 AM
Lex was not shot in the third season finale you mentioned. He was poisoned. He didn't get shot untill this season. Twice within a month no less. Actually, Lex was in the hospital like every other episode this year. lol
I HATE that Lois is in the Smallville world by stlfilmwire	May 11th, 2006 07:12:51 AM
I stopped watching when she joined the show. I didn't want Clark to meet her. I wish it never happened... because I liked the show.
Let's see, since the Smallville fans plague every other by chrth	May 11th, 2006 07:28:50 AM
talkback, what should I do here? Hmmm...nah, I'm just messing. Enjoy y'all.
"Will Clark Kent by SpyGuy	May 11th, 2006 07:35:52 AM
Herc, you mean that Jonathan's coming back from the dead next season? Sweet. As for Lois, I was initially against her character being added to the series, but it is definitely nice to see a regular potential love interest for Clark that doesn't have the physical structure of a junior high school girl. And unlike Lana, there's no need for a body double.
SpyGuy by Shermdawg	May 11th, 2006 07:55:25 AM
Actually Durance should be reduced to body double status, she defines "butterface". And Kristin Kreuk is a goddess. Well, at least she would be, if she ate something and went back to her natural hair color.
Dammit! by TempusFugitive	May 11th, 2006 08:05:09 AM
My bad, Shermdawg. I got my Lex-in-crisis moments mixed up. Oh, and Durance-as-Lois is by far the WORST addition to the show ever. Yep, even worse than Aquadude. She's... disturbing to look at, is strugglng to reach mediocre actress status... and exists solely to provide yet another bim to bounce off of Clark. (Oh, and every couple of episodes we get the obligatory moment where we as viewers know they have a long future together.) Bleah.
doesn't have the structure of a junior high school girl by Jack_Bauer	May 11th, 2006 09:06:03 AM
Step forward Chloe Sullivan. Yowza! Seriously looking forward to tonights finale, Lex, Zod, Brainiac up against Clark, who thinks Clark is gonna get his ass kicked?
Looks like Jor-El is Zod. by Shermdawg	May 11th, 2006 09:17:22 AM
I just checked the blurb for tonights episode in TV Guide, and it says "Clark's origins betray him as evil forces gather." Looks like it will be Stamp after all.
I have been saying this for awhile now... by Led Gopher	May 11th, 2006 09:19:31 AM
If not here, but to myself at least. Lionel is possesed by Jor-El and the voice Clark has been talking to in his fortress is really Zod. Why else use the voice of Terrance Stamp instead of a different actor. My guess is that Lex will see how Clark and Lionel are now working together against him and Lionel could possibly die at some point. Either way, Lex will take this very personally and it will finally severe any ties he and Clark share. The two will finally become the enemies they are meant to be. I can't say if Lana will make it past the end of the next season, but I would like to see her character given a chance to go away for good. I also am really am really interested to see how the writers ultimately get Lois and Clark together working in journalism. Chloe will have to be hurt once she sees Lois and Clark start to like each other, but then again, I am a little tired of love triangles on this show. True story.
What's funny by Hell_Bender	May 11th, 2006 10:09:10 AM
Is that is Jor-El turns out to be Zod, the writers are probably giggling with glee about their 'massive revelation.' When in actuality people have been calling this one for years.
Does anyone know for sure who is playing Zod? Also... by The Dude Abides	May 11th, 2006 10:47:09 AM
is this the last season for Smallville? I heard once that it would be the last because of Superman Returns. Does that still hold true?
funny, my guess is that Lex will become Zod by oisin5199	May 11th, 2006 10:56:18 AM
When Jonathan's body couldn't take a Kryptonian possession, Brainiac wisely figured he'd have to boost Lex's body so that he could be a vessel for Zod. I thought this was obvious, especially with the episode title, but maybe I'm wrong. Gotta say, when the Kryptonian stuff is happening, this show rocks. Other times, not so much. I hope Lana continually becomes an antagonist. I actually like Durance's Lois - she provides a nice banter with Clark and a contrast to the girls who would kiss his ass. When the show started, I hated Chloe, but once she learned the secret, she became really cool and my favorite character. Now I think they've taken her too far into "Saint Chloe" territory and need to bring it back a little. And I've always hated Lana - from day one. The first interesting thing she's done is get with Lex. Sorry, Shermdawg, I know she's your wife and all, but I always thought she was unattractive and annoying and full of herself, and I didn't buy for a second that Clark would fall for her. I'm looking forward to seeing him get over it. Needless to say, Lex and Lionel are the best parts of the show, though I wished they used James Marster more, and dumbass 'freak-of-the-week' characters less.
dude, did you read the post that started this thread? by oisin5199	May 11th, 2006 10:57:22 AM
Smallville - guaranteed on the CW. Next year. Period.
Whoa, whoa, you mean Zod made JKent die? by Billyeveryteen	May 11th, 2006 11:15:54 AM
That wicked sucks, I hope I have this confused.
I hope Supernatural gets picked up by CW. by Regenhund	May 11th, 2006 11:21:13 AM
it's a worthy successor to some of my favorite mystery shows, and gets decent ratings by WB standards, but gets no notice around AICN. sigh
Holy crap this show sucks, but... by mattw	May 11th, 2006 11:59:12 AM
I can't stop watching it. I expecially love how Chloe can get any information she needs by just using her computer, which seems to be legally able to hack into any other computer, server or data base in the world. She also seems to have a high up connection at every agency or office she needs info from, and they have no problem handing over secret classified information to a college freshman. Also, I'd like to fuck Lois, tittyfuck Chloe and marry Lana.
I meant "especially" by mattw	May 11th, 2006 11:59:53 AM

Eff, Marry, Kill: The SMALLVILLE version by SpyGuy	May 11th, 2006 12:20:15 PM
Fuck Lois, Marry Chloe, Kill Lana. Easy call.
/boggle @ spy guy by Cory849	May 11th, 2006 12:29:49 PM
Someone once wrote in a talkback that geeks drool over the ugly girls because they cant even IMAGINE themselves with the hot ones. And here it is again. So: Fuck Lana, Fuck Lois. Preferably at the same time and with an Elvis record in the background. Tell Chloe you just need some time for yourself right now. Some space. Its not you its me. Easy call.
Allison Mack is the sweet creamy filling of this Twinky by LargoJr	May 11th, 2006 12:46:32 PM
This show has had so many oportunities to tell GOOD stories, and yet keeps falling back on the most rediculous and innane, contrived horseshit. Oh well.. as long as they keep Allison.
F, marry, kill by mattw	May 11th, 2006 01:08:42 PM
F that bitchy sheriff lady, marry Buster the dog, kill Lana's acting teacher
after Superman Returns tanks... by lynxpro	May 11th, 2006 01:09:53 PM
I hope they bring back Jonathan Kent to Smallville and explain away his death as Fine/Brainiac posing as him and having him hidden away. Last week's events would lay a foundation for that theory without people claiming shark jumping when the character returns next season.
revision by mattw	May 11th, 2006 01:23:02 PM
Ok, marrying Buster the dog is just gross. Instead, I'd marry that blind old psychic who saw Lex's future and then died.
mattw by Shermdawg	May 11th, 2006 01:26:30 PM
You'd marry Heddy King from Avonlea? Good call! ;)
F, Marry, Kill by Darth Bauer	May 11th, 2006 01:29:29 PM
F Lois, Marry just Martha Kent's huge rack, Kill whoever pitched the idea of this show
I'd actually become, like, Morman or sumthin, and... by Shermdawg	May 11th, 2006 01:30:35 PM
marry each of Lex's wives. Lana (yeah!), Helen (Hell yeah!), and Krista Allen (Oooooh Heeeelllll Yeeeeaaahhh!!!). Can you imagine havin' those three as wives? All thanks to Joseph Smith, Dum-Dum-Dum Dum-Dum. :P
mattw by Shermdawg	May 11th, 2006 01:33:50 PM
That bitchy sherrif lady is dead. So you like gettin' it on with dead chicks eh?
SpyGuy by Jack_Bauer	May 11th, 2006 01:44:11 PM
Is spot on. Cory849 is not.
re: Sherm by mattw	May 11th, 2006 01:50:56 PM
I guess she was only slightly hotter when alive, but yeah, I guess marrying a dead woman would upset my dad. So now I'll revise once more and marry Pete's mom.
Sherrif Lady.. who be dead now.. by LargoJr	May 11th, 2006 01:51:18 PM
I liked her.. wonder if she liked butt sexor
re: by mattw	May 11th, 2006 02:39:11 PM
GIRTH, QUICK, HIT REFRESH! THERE'S A STORY ABOUT TO BE POSTED AND YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE FIRST AGAIN AND...shit, too late.
re: Girth by mattw	May 11th, 2006 02:43:48 PM
Girth, a little time saving tip for you: Random, innacurate insults from an incessant poster on a movie news website are meaningless to me. Stop wasting your time.
Jesus Girth! by FordPerfect	May 11th, 2006 03:07:59 PM
I think you might have finally shut him up! He was such a fucking pussy about everything!
Re: Girth by mattw	May 11th, 2006 03:11:12 PM
What? Please calm down, take a breath, reorganize your thoughts and retype your post when you are ready to form a coherent thought. Was that even in English?
He was trying to say by FordPerfect	May 11th, 2006 03:15:43 PM
That his comments bother you, and what you say doesn't bother him at all, and he thinks it's funny, and he thinks your gay.
re: Ford by mattw	May 11th, 2006 03:27:06 PM
Thanks, Ford. Girth, if you could please forward all comments to Ford for translation before posting, I would appreciate it. I may have no interest in what Ford is saying, but at least I can understand his point. Thanks in advance.
re: I will never stop laughing... by mattw	May 11th, 2006 04:12:39 PM
Not to mention clicking 'refresh' ad nauseum, mangling the English language, futilely attempting to make a point and hurling infantile insults beginning with, 'At least I don't...".
re: Girth by mattw	May 11th, 2006 04:33:58 PM
Please see last post.
Wasn't Lionel Luther also possessed by Jor-El? by Drath	May 11th, 2006 04:43:55 PM
How could Jon Kent have died because he'd been possessed by a Jor-El when the same happened to Lionel and he's never been ill? Oh never mind, this whole thing has gotten too convoluted for its own premise. They'd have been better off turning the show into METROPOLIS after the first 3 seasons because you really should not spend this much time in Smallville (or if you do, start with a younger Clark and don't turn the place into Sunnydale). Even the Superboy show from the '90s went on too long, he looked like he was 30 by the end and yet still they called him "boy." It's too bad they can't do what the animated Superman did in it's pilot by showing the last days of Krypton. I watched that recently and thought it would have been a great way to end a series about young Clark by having him witness that story and finally know where he came from (althouh then he'd just be a passive player, and that's kind of a storytelling no-no). Sorry, I've been down on this series for a long time, and to be fair it's still a better show than Lois and Clark, but I also still think the concept could have been done better. The way it's played now there is just no way for any of the main characters to NOT know that Clark is Superman. The topsy turvy shit they've pulled with the Lana character alone is symptomatic of the show's problems. My god, they've had Lana and Clark break up with the same fucking scene like five times now! And each time they act like this is the first time, like they didn't just do this five months ago! I think they've contrived too much to keep the status quo going, and it's a shame.
Allison Mack by coldsun08	May 11th, 2006 05:39:17 PM
Chloe. How Clark always fell for Lana mystifies me. Chloe is the hot one on the show. Smart. Beautiful. Curvacious. Lana and Lois are nice looking girls but Chloe rocks my world.
Well, by Dashl	May 11th, 2006 05:43:17 PM
I like how Lex and Lana are together, and they need to have her die for the future, so that even in Metropolis, Lex would still hate Clark, and vice versa. The tricky thing is somehow having Lex go through yet another brainwashing scheme, so that even in the future (since most Superman versions are all 30 when he takes the cape), that Lex does not realize that Clark is Superman, since basically know he knows something is up with him. Anyway, I really like the show, and yes it does get hokey and have some lameass episodes, but I blame that on the fact that it is on the WB, and they have to cater to all those damn teenagers. I do think the show would have had a much bigger following if it had been on Sci-Fi, or HBO, so that it could have been a little more mature (wink wink, nudge nudge) in some areas. Then again, I just could be crazy.
Sigh by glodene	May 11th, 2006 06:10:36 PM
After watching a few episodes of Smallville & 15 minutes of Charmed it makes me yearn for the days of yore...God I miss Buffy & Angel, because this current WB shit SUCKS!
Glodene... by mansuper	May 11th, 2006 07:36:43 PM
Buffy and Angel both sucked.
Well, that was certainly tacky by Deep Cover	May 11th, 2006 08:03:28 PM
Using actual stock riot footage of New York and L.A...and I'm with coldsun08 -- Clark (when he gets out of the Phantom Zone) should definitely take up Chloe on more smoochin'. SO hot. Oh, and here's the Aquaman episode where she's covered up. Not that I mind Lois in a bikini....
Batman should.... by chavee	May 11th, 2006 08:10:27 PM
swing into Metropolis to save the day. I mean we've had Aquaman, Cyborg, and Flash....why not Bats?
wooo!! by VoodooV	May 11th, 2006 08:11:10 PM
Chloe finally gets some much needed attention!! had Clark kept ignoring her, she might have switched to the other team, which, well, would also be cool.
Decent finale. But, not as good as last years. by Shermdawg	May 11th, 2006 08:17:10 PM
And nowhere, and I mean NOWHERE near as good as the finale of the show I'm not allowed to mention. The only real low points were a.) The lack of kneeling before Zod, and b.)I could have done without that car crashing into the newsroom. Where was the freakin' driver? lol. I hope, in the season six premiere that Flash and Cyborg show up to help with the rioting. That and Lionel surviving.
shermdawg by tranpkp1	May 11th, 2006 08:21:22 PM
holy hell i agree w/ shermdawg....a;beit not sure what other finale hes referencing. I too thought kinda strange the car sans driver. And Zod sans any kneeling. Superfriends returning would in fact be prety stinking cool. Sill unsure how the blade into Braniac serves as conduit for Zod using Lex, but smaillville never explains any of that crap. At least the confirmed it'd be continued so we'll see it next year.
Too true by Deep Cover	May 11th, 2006 08:22:04 PM
Perfect opportunities for Zod-kneeling and some "die, as you deserve to!" or "why do you tell me this, when you know I will kill you for it?"
Metropolis going to hell in a handbasket by Varakor	May 11th, 2006 08:34:41 PM
supes trapped in the phantom prison, Chloe on the verge of rapedom, Lex is possessed by Zod, dude next season has to be the season of Batman to come in and help clean shit up. It stands to reason he be the one to bring clark back and he hasn't even shown up in smallville yet. Aquaman, Flash, and Cyborg have all appeared. DUDE if Batman doesn't show up next season I will be royally pissed! Oh yea good season finale, but doth this have the smell of the J.J. abrams Superman returns script where Lex is a Kryptonian???? Ikinda thinkit sucks that he be possessed by ZOD and THAT is why he is evil.... just.... no!!
tranpkp1 by Shermdawg	May 11th, 2006 08:35:12 PM
Check Regenhund's post. If I mention the name of that show in Coaxial, the post mysteriously disappears. Ain't that right HERC? ;)
how fucking cool would it have been by VoodooV	May 11th, 2006 08:38:41 PM
if Zod/Lex had snapped Lana's neck after they kissed. Sorry, but Lana needs to die SO BAD
ah supernatural by tranpkp1	May 11th, 2006 08:40:03 PM
never watched 1 min of that nor any desire to. Didn't really for that dude when he was on smallville, that hole story line was kinda lame and certainly too long. Where can i find more on this JJ Abrams Supes script? I have to say, I wasn't in love w/ the finale but lots of stuff HAPPENS which is more than I can say for most of the eps this season san Lexmas and Forsaken.
Supernatural renewed? by Neo Zeed	May 11th, 2006 08:40:56 PM
The season one DVD has sneak peaks for season 2 here's the link.. so it's most likely renewed. http://tinyurl.com/fqpbd
Batman can't show up! by theoneofblood	May 11th, 2006 09:28:50 PM
Bruce Wayne is currently travelling the world, honing his fighting, scientific and detective skills, why the hell would he go to some bumfuck hicktown in USA? Batman is a guy who does not waste time.
Smallville's definitely cool... by ulcer	May 11th, 2006 09:44:05 PM
Definitely not perfect either, that's for sure. Plot holes you can drive a chevy in, but it's escapism. And please, no more movie rip off, even the hacks writing Charmed gave that up, and that the most poorly written show ever made. However I'm sure we'd enjoy this show a lot more if it aired like "24", in a five month run, instead of being broken up in the middle with multiple reruns and even a one month break after the broken "sweeps" concept of US TV. Smallville is definitely something that will be better appreciated when watched on DVD.
What does Zod want.. by ulcer	May 11th, 2006 09:48:46 PM
can someone enlighten me as to why Zod destroyed Kripton? I mean.. what's the point of killing everyone.. what exactly does he plan to do with his life after everyone is dead...
zod by tranpkp1	May 11th, 2006 10:08:22 PM
i didn't get this either. I don't know any superheroes from the comics, just tv/toons/movies and none of th stuff i'vw ever seen has him destroying Krypton. ulcer is right smallvilles about escapism and getting our superhero/superman fix. It defintiy could be written more crisply. They don't even TRY to explain 1/2 fo whats going on. I LOVE Chloe and she's just talking crap w/ her technobabble that she just suddently took the advnacne classes this season. Agree smallville should be a summer show or someihtng like 4400 or 24, just string all the damn shows together.
Smallville Sucks. by seanny_d	May 11th, 2006 10:15:02 PM
This makes absoultely no sense. Why the fuck would the entire United States go into a riot seemingly minutes after the power went out? Not only rioting but randomly attacking shit. Here we go, let's hit this car with a baseball bat? Why? Because the lights are out! It makes absoultely no fucking sense. And way to jump to conclusions Lana. "Clark said he was going to kill you." Why don't you fucking ask why, you stupid bitch? You think Clark just randomly kills people? Honestly, how many times has he come in and saved your sorry ass, so don't give me this bullshit. Yeah, there have been a few times where he's freaked out, but who doesn't have their bad days? And could someone explain to me WHAT THE FUCKING DEAL WAS WITH THAT DAGGER? So is Jor-El actually Zod? And what's the purpose of Fine killing Lois and Martha? Why go out of your way other than to just give those characters something to do? And the biggest question of all...why did Clark jump into the Phantom Zone? God, this pisses me off. After the brilliance of the beginning of the season, they have degenerated into inane bullshit. Of course, give it two episodes next season and everything will be back to normal, because GOD FORBID there's actually a long story arc.
What a shitty finale by Sizable Newt	May 11th, 2006 10:35:21 PM
It sucked nuts. Nothing made any sense at all.
my dvr cut out early by oisin5199	May 11th, 2006 10:48:18 PM
did anything happen after Lex/Zod kissed Lana on the roof (I half expected/hoped for a neck snapping)? Most of all I found this entertaining . Like I said, as long as they stick with mythology, it's fine.
my 2 cents... by iconboy	May 11th, 2006 11:10:55 PM
why am i still watching this show!? UGH! its sooo frusterating. They have too many filler episodes, thats how you get this extra crammed in season finale! Seriously, it felt rushed like they squeezed 3 episodes worth of info into one! and they gave me the feeling that all the characters were doing things out of character! So not only does Lex now know about Clark's powers, but they also founght for god sakes, what kind of convenient excuse are they gunna come up with this time to cover up that little piece o knowledge!? Did anyone catch a couple of episodes ago when Clark tossed Lex across the room and he got up and said right away "Clark your hypnotised! thats how you have that strength", i literally rolled my eyes, and it was weird because i was alone in the room- THAT is how ridiculous that line was! I love Chloe, and i love seeing her get what she wants once in a while and in this case she wanted to and got to kiss Clark. OK i am far from a giggly little school girl, but Chole sacrifices her feelings for Clark all the time, its time she got a little something for her toruble. I hate Lana, Lana needs to die. At the end, when Zod is on the roof (why is Zod on the roof? Youd think this guy had better things to do)- i wanted Lana to have her little speech and then Zod would look at her and ask "who the hell are you?" and then casually snap her neck. That would have made sense, what he does however doesnt. He grabs Lana and kisses her? I thought Lex was "dead" Zod, what the fuckk are you doing? You better than all this crap and you have a whole world out there that isnt gunna destory itself (maybe it will thanks to the virus)- Looks like Zod is thinking with the wrong head ;) What is the deal with Fien and Clark's mom and Lois on the plane? is it even necessary to kill them? what does that accompliosh? can anyone even save them? this doesnt make any sense! Why is it that Clark spent 5 seasons not trusting Jo-rel and now it seems like he is willing to (almost ) kill for him? I bet it was johnathan always getting in the way, we can all thank him for stopping Superman's natural growth! UGH! i hate this show.... cya all next season! :)
Brainiac by Playhouse	May 11th, 2006 11:20:46 PM
Everyone get the coy reference to "Milton Fine"'s true name? The Brain InterActive Construct. Thought that was a bit clever. I'm intrigued by this idea that the Stamp Jor-El has always been Zod. Certainly the episode supports it. Clark stabs BrainIAC ('natch) with the knife and Zod erupts from the crystal control panel in the Fortress. He could've come from anywhere else but he came from the crystal control panel. Sure as hell makes sense that it was Zod talking to him all along.
re: Girth by mattw	May 11th, 2006 11:23:13 PM
Good one.
Music by Playhouse	May 11th, 2006 11:23:40 PM
My only frustration with Smallville this season when they've had their mythology-heavy episodes is that they haven't been able to use any of John Williams' Superman score in them. Barred most likely because of this summer's movie, it would've been exciting to hear the score infused in the episodes the way we heard it during Rosetta and at the tail end of season 2. Tonight, it sounded like they were trying to do some riffs on the music but couldn't use it full-on. Would've added a nice touch tonight if they could've.
I'm conflicted about Jor-El =ing Zod... by iamnicksaicnsn	May 12th, 2006 12:11:23 AM
It's sort of possible because of his obsession with trying to get him to join him and whatnot, but Jor-El had some many chances to fuck some shit up, it just wouldn't make sense for it to happen. Respectable ending, and Lois is hot, she's got some fantastic titties.
Smallville by glodene	May 12th, 2006 12:49:21 AM
This show is an exercise in mediocrity and Tom Welling is the poster-boy for all that is androgynous. The real Superman would've already grabbed Lois and introduced her kneecaps to her earlobes while banging the hell out of that poonani instead of moping around every episode like some refugee from Dawson Creek.
I loved that the world was ending... by mattw	May 12th, 2006 01:08:12 AM
and Lana thought it was the appropriate time for a "Lex, let's talk about US" speech. Classic. And I'm sure in the season premiere, Lex will lose his powers and forget everything that happened.
can we stop dressing Welling in red and blue clothes by VoodooV	May 12th, 2006 01:13:16 AM
we fucking get it already...it is so insulting to believe he only has two colors in his wardrobe. Its not a clever homage to his tights...its fucking stupid! everyone here is exactly right..so much shit happens on this show and we are never given an explanation why...why the fuck did stabbing fine release zod. why the fuck does zod give a flying fuck about lana, he should have snapped her god dammned neck...Lana is a useless character...so is Lois..they just sit there and take up space! Why did Clark jump into the phantom zone...constant plot holes and gaps in logic. I agree...that random riot is fucking stupid what the hell was chloe doing there anyway? she is way smarter than that ..there is no way she would have waded into that....Stay at the planet...no one is going to loot a newspaper office..Seriously, the only fucking good thing about this ep is that Chloe finally took what she wanted after all this time.
F, Marry, Kill v2.0 (And Krypton Dagger of Doom) by topaz4206	May 12th, 2006 01:23:28 AM
Kill Lois, F Chloe, Marry Lana. I know she's a passive aggressive whore, and those pig-nostrils when she smiles are annoying, but still... damn. Oh, and why feed Clark the bullshit story about him having to kill Lexiac? Why make Clark go through a crisis of conscience, if all he needed to do was fling the dagger into Miltiac? Since Brainiac is not a living being, Clark would've shanked him in 2 seconds without a second thought. OOPS, i'm not supposed to think, i forgot. Fun episode nonetheless, it shouldv'e been two hours to make up for the "Lana Vampire" episode.
PLAYHOUSE (RE: Music) by topaz4206	May 12th, 2006 01:43:19 AM
What makes you say that? They use John Williams's music whenever the heck they feel like it. It's even tucked away inside this episode! Hint: it's in the last 5 minutes.
Bones to pick, records to set straight. by Shermdawg	May 12th, 2006 01:56:08 AM
RIOTS: Didn't all of the computers/tv screens have the kryptonian code on them before the power went off? If I saw that crap on every channel, I'd probably go nuts too. The riots weren't as far fetched as you believe. LEX KNOWING CLARKS SECRET: He doesn't, Zod had taken over when he fought Clark. And regarding baldy meeting "monkey face" on the rooftop, leads one to believe that he can access Lex's memories. Also, he probably wanted some action, given all that time in the Phantom Zone. :P CLARKS WARDROBE: Yes it is ridiculous at times, but its no more ridiculous than the Dukes, Debra always wearing red on Everybody Loves Raymond, cough Firefly cough. I mean, we always knew the Kent's had financial problems, maybe Clark couldn't afford new clothes. CHLOE BEING MADE TO BE A CHARACTER LIKE CHLOE FROM 24: Sorry, but Miss Sullivan did that type of shit before O'brien was even thought of. MARTHA AND LOIS: I doubt Fine was trying to kill them. Most likely he was just knockin' them out. Martha is far to valuable to Clark and Lionel (Who may have info in that head of his that Zod/Brainiac want.).
Um... by lycanthrope	May 12th, 2006 01:59:39 AM
Well, I don't think it was directed very well, but Clark was sucked into the Zone - I believe Fine was taking Lois and Martha to the Fortress as a contingency if Clark didn't follow through - threaten to snap their necks if they didn't release Zod - I agree this ep would have played better with more time to build up riots - the virus should be causing cars to seize up (perhaps why the driver-less car smashed into the Planet?), caused planes to fall from the sky, elevators to jam, etc etc etc - add that kind of mayhem on to panicking citizens and I can see riots - but only if the skies were filled with black ships - now that would be a cool image... Lex-Zod kissing Lana? I thought he was going to toss her off the roof - final shot of her screaming as she heads for a sharpened section of rebar... It may not be in the continuity, but Lana should die and Chloe remain as Superman's boyhood friend... Was anyone else hoping Lex would open his mouth and Terence Stamp's voice would issue forth? Guess they are holding out until final season - I still say Jor-el would not act this way because they established his character as being like Clark's in the drifter episode where Clark flashbacked to the 50's, met his grandfather, etc etc etc.
Oh, I forgot my biggest gripe of the show. by Shermdawg	May 12th, 2006 03:48:14 AM
I can accept the loft being repaired from last week. But, c'mon how'd the tractor get fixed? I know we're talking about Supes, but dang, they should at least kept it off camera in the finale. Of course we don't know how much time passed since last week.
VoodooV Ahmen by ClarkK82	May 12th, 2006 03:58:10 AM
we get it! he's going to be Superman, and it's just getting obnoxious at this point
It's really a shame... by jtp972	May 12th, 2006 04:13:11 AM
This show was pretty good the first 2 or 3 seasons. But it just keeps getting worse. Tonight's finale...not a bad story idea, all things considered. But, again, badly executed by the producers/writers. That seems to be the problem: They have some genuinely interesting ideas that do some cool stuff with the Superman mythology...but just don't seem to deliver on the potential the ideas often have. And Marsters is wasted. The man owned Buffy/Angel at times...and here...just another kryto-villain. Aargh!
what a dumb show by Rupee88	May 12th, 2006 07:58:35 AM
I'm sure the average IQ of fans of this show is about 88...and the average age has got to be 12. I probably would have enjoyed it when I was that age. Too bad they couldn't make a quality show that appealed to all ages and intellects. Oh well, it is a money machine and that's all they care about or are capable of.
The red-and-blue clothes are to highlight super-feats by SpyGuy	May 12th, 2006 08:01:28 AM
I remember reading somewhere that the showrunners deliberately put Clark in the red jacket and blue t-shirt to highlight the scenes involving his powers. It's an artistic visual thing and not nearly as annoying to those of us who read about Clark in his red, yellow and blue longjohns on a monthly basis. And yeah, I think Clark was pulled into the Phantom Zone against his will instead of going voluntarily. Remember, he doesn't fly off unless he's under the influence of Red Kryptonite or some other deus ex machina.
Ive said it before and I'll say it again. by VoodooV	May 12th, 2006 08:08:22 AM
FUCK CONTINUITY!! It is a fucking straitjacket and it needs to be removed. IF I gave fuck about comic canon, ID READ THE GODDAMNED COMICS Kill Lana, Kill Lois, hell maybe even kill Martha...its bad enough that Chloe is a reporter and very lois-like and that she has the hots for clark...she IS essentially Lois...but anyway..if you want to keep viewers..they need to rip free from continuity and start doing their own thing instead of worrying about what the comics say....SCREW EM CANON!
Girth: by smackfu	May 12th, 2006 08:29:46 AM
Actually, I'm on Mattw's side on that one. If you were brought up in an english speaking environment, there is ZERO EXCUSE for not being able to spell or construct a sentence properly. It should be intuitive by now, like breathing. I mean, if you can't even get a firm grasp on your own native tongue, you're basically kind of retarded, and the world is going to view you that way. "he will act like an intelligent 12 and correct your language" - doesn't make sense. What is an 'intelligent 12'? - - - - - "This is all at this point it time people." Again, doesn't make sense, my dog has better grammar.
Does anyone else find it odd that the WB description... by SpideyVSNorris	May 12th, 2006 09:42:38 AM
That the official WB description doesn't match what happened in the show. Virus!? Braniac demanding Clark unleash Zod in exchange for the antidote!? Wha? Did they change that because of bird flu scare? I dunno. I'm a very big fan of the show but I was very disappointed by this finale. It just made no sense and all the characters behaved generally erratically. I would have much preferred Zod in his own body instead of a superpowered Lex. Ah well, anything is still better than the witch subplot last season.
Well I guess I'm in the minority by _Maltheus_	May 12th, 2006 10:09:35 AM
I really loved the three episodes leading up to this one and even this one wasn't that bad. The riots were indeed stupid. And I am dreading the inevitable, "Clark, I don't remember a thing," speech from Lex. In fact there wasn't that much good to say about the ep. But since the last talkback, I gotta say that I am much happier having Lana as Lex's girlfriend (but unhappy she's not mine:). I'm liking Lionel in the mix, but he was better as a Thundercat. We should also get to see Zod fly. He shouldn't be bound by the same childish limitations as Clark. ......... I'd also be really pissed if it's true that Johnny Boy Kent was given the boot because of the movie. From what I understand, this movie is just a remake of the second or something. Hollywood, get this straight, I will never go to another sequel, remake, converted "funny" TV show movie again. ('Cept X-Men, I mean come on!) That's why your ticket sales are down. I couldn't give a rats ass about a Posiden update or a superman clone. Do something new once in a while. They SHOULD completely throw the continuity out the window for this show as well. Take a freakin' chance for Christ's sake!
It's a dream... by Codename V	May 12th, 2006 10:52:56 AM
...It would explain away a lot of what happened last night. Zod watching the destruction is interesting to me. I mean, he's allegedly responsible for the destruction of Krypton, yet Fine started the computer virus. Sooooo why is Zod released? What is he going to do once Earth is destroyed? In the movie he wanted to rule the world, what exactly is his goal here? This whole episode seemed like Clark having was having a bad dream. Literally, Clark will wake up next season and it's Dallas and Bobby Ewing all over again. A dream would explain the erratic behavior of the characters, the car crash sans driver, the sudden riot for no reason, Martha and Lois's situation, and Clark in the Phantom Zone, but would be sorely disappointing. That crashing sound is Creativity going out the window. I hope I'm wrong, but I have a feeling that was why everything was so rushed. I would appreciate an original idea. Here's hoping...
re: red & blue clothing by mattw	May 12th, 2006 11:08:56 AM
Voodoo, GREAT point. Enough already with the red and blue. It's not clever. Plus, when Superman exists in the future, wouldn't people just think, "Hey that guy with super powers who saves people and wears red and blue all the time reminds me of Clark Kent from Smallville who had superpowers, saved people and wore red and blue all the time."
Superman's boyhood by lycanthrope	May 12th, 2006 01:58:01 PM
mattw - that's something I've been saying since the show started, even tho' I'm a fan - just how is Clark supposed to adopt even the (admittedly) weak disguise of glasses and slicked back hair of adult Clark now? Unless Will Smith comes in as a MIB and does a brain-wipe on everyone in Smallville... Knowing this show, Clark will be shown a new type of kryptonite (purple? silver? magenta?) that will wipe out all memories of anything kryptonian but one time only - "Use it wisely, son" says Lionel, channeling Jor-el or his brother Zor-el or maybe the talking dog Mongr-el... And yes, I agree with others Lana needs to go - maybe go full-blown (pun intended) evil - then killed, dying in Clark's arms as she apologizes for being such a moody bitch - then Clark could leave her lifeless body and move on with Chloe and/or Lois...
actually Spyguy by ClarkK82	May 12th, 2006 02:42:44 PM
I do read the comics every month. The red and blue started as a nod to the audience that Clark was indeed going to be Superman. It's not just an artistic thing to signal his power use because he wears red and blue in every damn scene. My roommate who doesn't normally watch the show or care about Superman has walked by the tv and said "dude, Clark needs to get some new clothes." It was clever and cheeky for about two episodes but now its just dumb.
Conspiracy to get smallville off the mainpage? by ulcer	May 12th, 2006 05:13:13 PM
Is it just me or there is a conspiracy to get smallville talk back off the mainpage ASAP.. ;-) multiple less popular talkbacks are being added very quickly.. Watch out! vernica mars just sneezed! not everyone goes on the messageboards immediately after the show..
Brainiac and the CPU virus by Dashl	May 12th, 2006 08:16:14 PM
Maybe they are doing what the cartoon did, and have Brainiac use the virus to get all the knowledge of the world. Yeah, Zod/Lex should have killed Lana, or maybe he is going to prep her for Ursa?
topaz4206 by Playhouse	May 12th, 2006 08:17:29 PM
No, that's what I'm talking about. That wasn't Williams' score. It was a cheap imitation. They haven't used any of Williams' score since Season 2, most likely because the film division called dibs on it and the still wanted to maintain some measure of distance between Smallville and Superman Returns. I think that's kind of ridiculous since most people are smart enough to know that the two projects are related - in only that they are based on the DC Comics character and that they borrow from the Donner film - BUT they tell two separate stories that exist in separate universes of their own. That wasn't Williams' music, though.
Missing scene in last nights show!!! by Shermdawg	May 12th, 2006 08:36:45 PM
Where was the scene where Lex was in a white room and was emerging from some sort of blob-like cocoon that was shown in the preview?
Sherm... by lycanthrope	May 13th, 2006 02:28:52 PM
That must have happened aboard the black ship and was cut so'd they have more time for Lana to flare her nostrils and act like Clark had never done anything positive in her life - and that Lex, who once went wacko and let her get trampled by a horse, has always been a saint... Why I oughta...
So'd? by lycanthrope	May 13th, 2006 02:30:17 PM
No... Zod.
Bad News by glodene	May 14th, 2006 09:26:48 PM
According to Variety. ABC has just pulled the plug on Invaision. I assume that some of you Smallville fans probably enjoy this show also, considering that it's part of the sci-fi genre
re: Zod's destruction of Krypton by psyclical	May 14th, 2006 10:02:29 PM
Showing my geek pedigree here, but somebody mentioned never seeing or reading that Zod destroyed Krypton. Not true! An alternate universe had Supes from the 'main' universe wandering onto a Krypton where Zod and his two lackeys had murdered everyone on the planet. To prevent them from voyaging to Earth and doing the same thing, Superman violated his most sacred rule and killed them.

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