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Herc's Seen The WB's Last GILMORE GIRLS Ever!!

I dont care if I am first...let me just say by LordEnigma	May 9th, 2006 01:04:32 AM
FUCK EACH AND EVERY GG HATER out there. Especially these sad sack motherfuckers that consider Luke and Lorelai-----------as tragedy, and who do not give Rory and Logan the love they deserve. Fuck you for your bullshit bitterness. Fuck you for your lame retorts that would get rebuted by 13 private-school kids. Let alone anyone that knows how to use words as a weapons, and repeatedly uses them to make you look like a bunch of fucking assholes. Fuck all of you. Not in the GO THE HELL sort of way or anything harsh. It's a simple FUCK YOU for all the aggrevation Gilmore Girls fans the world over have had to put up for the second-half of the season. You try discussing a show with this much empty-headed fucking mockery and criticism, and see if it doesnt drive you nuts. At least Herc has always demonstrated--even during season four--his love of this show. So, once again you daft motherfuckers--FUCK YOU! Fuck you from the cockels all the way down to my god damn toes.
Herc..... by Biowolf	May 9th, 2006 01:08:44 AM
Show me some love and fork over the spoilers, baby!!
Well... by LordEnigma	May 9th, 2006 01:49:19 AM
Sorry for the rant. The levels of shenanigans one has to deal with discussing this show of all show. Really does piss me off. I think the moment they were happy ASP left. That might have pushed me over the edge. I agree that it's a bad time for ASP and DP to leave the series. Rosey was going to take over the daily operations of the show. If ASP and DP had their way anyway. So maybe he can resolve what ASP and DP left hanging. If not--then--good move Warners to play hardball. Herc could be more detailed with his spoilers but stating something BIG happens besides a sex scene. Leaves me all sorts of optimistic about the finale.
Thanks for putting the word out, Herc re, the extra :02 by paulh	May 9th, 2006 06:35:44 AM
Especially on the TV Without Pity Gilmore forum, there was such an uproar over last season's finale cutting out on everyone's tivo without the last minute shown. If you're recording both this and the VM finale, just make sure you have Gilmore ranked above VM in your tivo season pass manager or else it will cut those last 2 minutes off.
I think this show by Sandinista	May 9th, 2006 07:35:48 AM
AND Veronica Mars are both embarassing... I mean, teen angst? C'mon!
Stop hating on Veronica Mars, your description of the.. by Mr. Profit	May 9th, 2006 09:07:40 AM
show, tells everyone that you have never seen a single episode. It's a show that features great writing and actors who turn in great performances week after week. Veronica Mars is ridiculously underrated.
I just hope it's better than the "7th Heaven" finale. by ExcaliburFfolkes	May 9th, 2006 10:34:47 AM
Last night's show was terrible on every possible level. I know series' finales are almost always a letdown, but the "7th Heaven" one might have been the absolute worst ever.
by foreignerbelt	May 9th, 2006 11:47:35 AM
dude it's seventh heaven. there is no "letting down" from the bottom floor of hell.
Bye Bye Girls! RIP by Hokeybutt	May 9th, 2006 11:50:57 AM
Too bad the Palladinos didn't get the chance for a tricky ending that could stand as a proper finale OR as a springboard for a new set of lesser scribes to play with.
I'm probably going to watch this tonight... by vinceklortho	May 9th, 2006 01:13:44 PM
and I am a 24 year old single man. I have only caught a couple episodes, and really enjoy the dialogue. Smart and funny. So, I will check this season finale out tonight. I will probably cry as well. I am a sad, sad man.
"Series" or "Season" Finale?? by hairyandtattooed	May 9th, 2006 02:48:53 PM
I thought next season was supposed to be the final season! Is this really it????
Read Herc's Headline... by Deandome	May 9th, 2006 03:13:53 PM
It's the last ep. ever...ON THE WB!!!! Yeah, it's back next year, but it will be on CPN or whatever the fuck they're calling the new merger of WB & UPN. But that WILL probby be it for the series.
Hey Herc... by Regenhund	May 9th, 2006 03:29:01 PM
when does CW announce their fall schedule?
July 18, I believe, Regenhund... by paulh	May 9th, 2006 04:07:43 PM
They go last in their fall upfront presentations in NYC.
CW upfronts are a week from Thursday (MAY 18) ... by Hercules	May 9th, 2006 04:17:36 PM
... but GG are already a lock to be on its schedule.
It's CHLOE! by paulh	May 9th, 2006 07:10:11 PM
With her 24 'tude intact! WAR! :D
Taylor was lucky Chloe left her taser at CTU... by paulh	May 9th, 2006 07:11:14 PM
'Cause he was asking for it there.
Enigma, I'm suing you for copyright infringement. by Snowden's Secret	May 9th, 2006 07:19:28 PM
Daft Motherfuckers is the name of my imaginary rock band. Nice rant. Ep so far is frigging brilliant. It's going to suck so bad w/out ASP. This is a bittersweet night if there ever was one. Sure, the eps this year have been hit and miss, but the hits for this show are like nothing else in entertainmentville. GG rocks!!!
Uh, ok. I'm gay. by Darth_Nader	May 9th, 2006 09:36:22 PM
First off, loved the troubadors. So many pretentious bands, it boggles the imagination. Beaver ate my Thumbs, Has Anyone Seen my VW, and Neil Young in the Monkees, brilliant! The setup with Chris and the 'date' made me wonder if Emily was one step ahead of Lorelei and told the doc to stick around to talk to her, and the date was just a secondary front. Pretty much all of Rory's story was fantastic. Rory agrees with Mitcham in the end. For as good as several elements of the story were, I did have several problems. Taylor and Kirk have pretty much become just pauses in the story. A couple of years ago, Kirk would have been trying to figure out how much money a troubador makes, and Taylor would have had the national guard mobilized. Ms. Patty just let the whole lying to Luke thing pass way too easily. The townspeople have really lost their depth and are becoming more like characatures. They always used to be somewhat unpredictable, but there is no spark left in them now. They are just plot devices, and not part of the plots. I said a few weeks ago it was abvious Lorelei was going to give Luke a 'me or the kid' decision. If I were Luke, I would have reacted exactly the same. He didn't even blow up at her for talking with April's mom. Then not only running to Christopher, but to sleep with him, very out of character. Her meltdown last season when Luke left had her retreat to her bedroom. This time she goes for Chris? You know the first episode of next season would have been (and may still be) Luke tracking down Lorelei and grudgingly agreeing to elope, or at least to finally agree to set the date again. Then angsty guilt builds up again for a season. It will be interesting to see how a new showrunner will handle things now. Hell, I'll take the show over! That's how gay I am. I have no idea how to lessen my gayness execpt to reflect on yet another gaping cleavage Lorelei Friday Night Dinner dress, Rory's british chippie outfit, and the morning after look. Mmmmm.
Oh, and the evil :02 'extension' by Darth_Nader	May 9th, 2006 09:40:08 PM
Did anyone notice GG finished on time, and not run over 2 minutes? Makes you wonder if they did it to screw up VM, House, or Scrubs. I stopped recording before I got any of that Pepper Dennis on my DVR. I would have had to disinfect it if that happened.
what a letdown by sabine16	May 9th, 2006 09:40:39 PM
what a letdown- we all knew Lorelai was going to sleep with Luke, and the whole troubadour thing was boring and annoying, and as much as I like Rory and Logan, their plot ended rather anticlimactically . . . and where were the extra 2 minutes?? It ended at 9:00 on the dot by my clock . . .
I love GG, but... by godric	May 9th, 2006 10:08:52 PM
that sucked. Sorry. And I hate Christopher--he's still a putz.
No closure by ghj	May 9th, 2006 11:16:45 PM
For those who actually care about GG - Herc, whoever - was it not a depressing ep to watch? So many great lines, such great music, and it's all thanks to the Palladinos. And nothing wrapped up. To me, next season is like the fake Don Quixote sequel that pissed Cervates off. It's not even the same as taking Larry David off of Seinfeld - who cared about that show's overarching plot? However story threads get tied up next season, it won't be right. I just hope they let ASP back to write the series finale. Jesus Christ, it's as if the BBC had hired someone other than Ricky Gervais and Steve Merchant to write a third series of The Office!
That SUCKED. by Biowolf	May 10th, 2006 12:28:37 AM
What a disappointment.
hell yeah it was depressing by Hercules	May 10th, 2006 01:17:44 AM
getting this attached to TV will inevitably leave a giant callus on one's heart. let's hope somebody lets ASP start a new show a year from now. maybe even one starring Lauren Graham!
Maybe it was time ... by MilesGloriosus	May 10th, 2006 07:55:32 AM
...for the Palladinos to go. Lauren Graham, Alexis Bledel, and Liza Weil are yummy, and the dialog is always a hoot. But SOMEONE has to adjust Lorelai's meds. That chick is just too insane to handle, even as a fictional character.
I thought it was a great episode by ChorleyFM	May 10th, 2006 08:19:54 AM
But knowing it will never truly be resolved is the really disheartening thing. Most people who watch the show probably won't know of a change behind the scenes so they will just watch ep 7.01 as a new Gilmore Girls. For those of us who have loved the show the Palladinos have provided for 6 years it is going to be really hard to watch a new season with an open mind, without nitpicking and generally being depressed. I will watch though, and am hopeful we get a great final season, just like with the West Wing, I love the characters, and hopefully those should continue (despite their new words).
A Family Guy take-off had Lorelai and Rory making out.. by The Wrong Guy	May 10th, 2006 08:25:19 AM
It was funnier than anything I've ever seen on this show. I've seen about seven episodes,total, and from what I've seen it tries way too hard, and thinks it's a lot clever than it is. Still, it's mildly entertaining, but not entertaining enough to make me watch more than seven ep's. Why did I bother with watching seven ep's of it? Don't know. Just did. Hey, at least it somewhat qualifies me to criticise the fricking thing.
No....Sherm/Pal RUINED This Season... by Deandome	May 10th, 2006 09:24:50 AM
...it's a good thing they're leaving, as this was both one of the worst seasons ever & one in which Sharm/Pal was more heavily involved with than most. Robert Bianco @ USA Today, who crystallizes my thoughts on TV more than anyone in the media, really nailed this yesterday: "Sometimes the best you can say for a season finale is that it brings a bad season to a close. Nonetheless, Tuesday's Gilmore Girls (WB, 8 ET/PT) will be crucial to loyal viewers, who have been worried for weeks over where the relationship between Lorelai and Luke is headed. What's more, it's likely to be the last episode written by creator Amy Sherman-Palladino, who is leaving the show. Sad to say, she's leaving Gilmore in such horrid shape, you wonder whether her departure might not be for the best. Not a single story works tonight as the episode lurches between forced attempts at humor and dramatic scenes that are lugubrious when not ridiculous. As for filling the town with famous "troubadours," including Sonic Youth and Mary Lynn Rajskub, that's Gilmore at its most achingly precious. So why bring the show back at all? Two words: Lauren Graham. We always knew Graham could shine with great material. This season, we saw how she could salvage the show when the material was awful. Each week, the scripts seemed to find a new way to make Lorelai seem weak, foolish and pathetic, and yet Graham was still able to maintain some rooting interest in the character. She, her fans and her character deserve a better ending than they've been given tonight."
Fantastic Season Finale for the Gilmore Girls by ExcaliburFfolkes	May 10th, 2006 09:35:21 AM
The Palladinos should be proud of going out with so strong an episode. The troubadors were hilarious, even if a bit overdone. Luke royally screwed up by not running off and eloping with Lorelai. He's been an increasingly self-centered ass ever since April turned up. Exactly how much longer was Lorelai supposed to sit quietly by while Luke rearranged their lives and long-term plans? Lorelai tried to be accomodating, but the more she gave and gave the more Luke wanted and wanted. Lorelai was dead on when she told Luke that it never should have been an either/or choice between her and April, but rather about fitting April into Luke and Lorelai's life together. If Luke truly loved Lorelai he would have run off with her (or at the very least suggest setting a new firm Wedding date). It's amazing how much of gelded gutless wonder Luke has become in regards to dealing with Anna. Am I the only one who's noticed and is bothered that Luke has given Anna complete control over every aspect of his life? Speaking of being royally screwed, Rory completely abandoned Logan in his time of dire need. At the going away party he was practically begging Rory to help him have the strength to say, "No", to his father about the year-long British gig and a career in publishing, but Rory completely shrunk away and turned her back on Logan. All she had to say was, "Logan, don't get on that plane", but she wouldn't. Instead Rory threw him overboard to further her own ambitions. Rory is so hellbent on becoming Mrs. Huntzberger Publishing Empire that she no longer seems to care that Logan hates that life and wants to make a different one for himself. In the end, Rory agrees with Mitchum that Logan should just be a good little boy and go along with it all. Of course, at the very end there, you could already see Logan beginning to resent Rory the same way he resents his father.
Jesus, ExcalliburFolkes... by Deandome	May 10th, 2006 09:54:56 AM
..what's with you? "Am I the only one who's noticed and is bothered that Luke has given Anna complete control over every aspect of his life?" WTF???? These are characters, not people...and the shit you mention is the very reason every critic & many/most fans think this season and episode sucked so bad!! The beloved Sherm/Pals took the characters they developed and made them say & do things that were totally against those characters!!! Lorelei a cowardly wimp who won't confront Luke on ANYTHING? Christopher..who they'd turned nice/responsible/thoughtful callously beds Lorelei at her most vulnerable moment? Luke ignores Lorelei & doesn't think he's being an asshole keeping her away from April? Rory gets shit on and comes back for more? First off, Excal...get some distance, you seem a bit too attached. Then maybe you'll see what we all do, that this whole season involved transparantly skewing the characters they've created over 6 years...creating "Bizzaro Gilmores". To me, it seemed like the whole season was just a giant "FUCK YOU" to the WB 'cuz they knew things were falling apart with their deal (in which I believe their feelings got hurt cuz they nixed some other spinoff/show they thought they had sealed up). So they trashed the place like a vindictive lowlife getting evicted from his house smashing walls & pouring cement in the plumbing. They knew they were leaving, so they fucked things up on purpose, plain & simple
After last night, it IS time for the Palladinos to go by SpyGuy	May 10th, 2006 10:57:44 AM
Last night's season finale most certainly sucked and once again, Lorelai and Rory are left to be mopey crybabies for the entire summer. Luke, meanwhile, has become a clueless idiot for not realizing that his daughter is subtly playing matchmaker to keep Luke away from Lorelai and more involved with her mom. As a result, we get inane exchanges like "Let's elope!"/"I don't like ultimatums!"/"Too bad! I need to get married!" and so on. The only redeeming thing about last night's episode was the troubadour invasion and Lorelai's therapy session in the car. Here's hoping the new team will get the show back on track for its last season.
ASP has always wanted Lorelai with Christopher. by FluffyUnbound	May 10th, 2006 11:05:09 AM
It's the reason the character was introduced onto the show: to be a fantasy representation of an absentee dad who somehow doesn't grow a beer gut and move into a trailer park where he fathers other brats, but instead stays handsome, falls into money, and ends up coming back to the single mom because "they were meant to be all along". Come on, it's obvious. Rory is a fantasy kid for single moms and Christopher is the fantasy dad. The show was always meant to end with Rory getting married to "handsome but sensitive rich boy" and with Lorelai marrying Christopher. The whole Luke thing was forced on ASP by the show's fans. It made perfect sense that as her last act as showrunner, she would tear the Luke thing to pieces and drop Lorelai in Christopher's bed.
Deandome, I didn't ruin nuthin! ;) by Shermdawg	May 10th, 2006 11:25:32 AM

Last night's finale was a step back towards normalcy. by ExcaliburFfolkes	May 10th, 2006 12:04:09 PM
Yes, it's been the weirdest weakest season ever for the Gilmore Girls, but only in spots. Some of the episodes have been quite good. Lorelai finally standing up to Luke was a wonderful thing and fits in with her character. So did running to Christopher in that situation, given their history. Yeah, their sleeping together was a little much, but if it symbolizes Lorelai's clean break from Luke than I can live with it. And besides, it did give the episode a pair of interesting opening/closing shots with a miserable Lorelai awaking to people whispering behind her. As for Rory, she has eventually more or less screwed over every guy she's been involved with (Dean, Jess, Dean again, Naked Guy even though they weren't technically involved) so her starting to put the screws to Logan feels like old times again, too. And give the Palladinos some credit, if they really wanted to flame the series down as they left, don't you think they could have come up with something a lot more incendiary?
Deandome, what's the point of watching a show... by ExcaliburFfolkes	May 10th, 2006 12:15:28 PM
...if not to get involved in the plot twists and character development? I don't necessarily have to agree with everything the characters do in order to enjoy it. I think you misunderstood the point of my earlier post.
ExcaliburFfolkes, we have to agree to disagree by Darth_Nader	May 10th, 2006 12:37:27 PM
First off I could see where Rory was coming from. As much as I don't like the Logan character, his Dad was right. After seeing Logan in the hospital, Mitchum's explaination that this was to get him out of this environment seems right on. Rory didn't make the decision because she is a golddigger, but because she doesn't want Logan to selfdestruct. Luke's attitude seemed OK too. He just found out he has a daughter, whos mother has already threatened to take her away if he screws up. So he's already got to walk a thin line there. Anna is the real culprit, not Luke. If Luke were to stand up to her, he could lose his daughter. After pushing Jess away, he's got some issues. Lorelai was the worst here. Her freakout was completely uncalled for. Up until her ultimatum, had she said anything to Luke about having a problem? No. She smiled to his face, and grumbled to everyone else. She never talked to him about it. She made the situation, and then made it worse by blowing up and then running off to Christopher. As far as I am concerned, all this did was just add even more excuses for tension next year, and didn't resolve one thing, which is what a season finale should do.
And that sound you hear... by godric	May 10th, 2006 03:31:35 PM
is the sound of two Gilmore feet hitting the earth after clearing the shark. I am afraid that it is so. I have loved this show, but this season has been so misguided. The characters don't seem like themselves anymore, and I hope to God that ASP's idea of a good relationship for the girls are not Logan and Chris--both shallow and self-centered rich guys, no wonder they like each other. So what would I have done differently? I would have brought this season up to L&L's wedding, and have the drama be all the adjustments they'd have to make--would they have children, would her parents ever accept him? There is tons of humor and drama that should have come out of that, not this manufactured April storyline (as cute as she is.) And for Rory--I would have wanted to explore more the "Rory is becoming like her grandparents through Logan" story they had started on last season. That would have been interesting. And for the record: I hate all of Logan's friends, and hope they are never back next year. Their parties aren't cute, and neither are their attitudes. (sighs and goes to curl up to a old episode, maybe the dance marathon)
The parties and Logan's friends are pretty bad. by FluffyUnbound	May 10th, 2006 04:54:10 PM
Seriously, how many times since Rory started with Logan has she dressed up in costume? Is this some sort of plot by ASP to make up for the fact that they lost the use of the schoolgirl outfit on Bledel when Rory went to Yale, or do the writers think that college students are continually at costume parties? Not only did I not dress in a costume ONCE during my four years of college, I never saw anyone else dress in costume EITHER, not even at Halloween. And speaking of Logan's friends, exactly who were those people at the party Rory threw for Logan in last night's ep? They weren't Logan's friends, since they left him at the door of the apartment. And Rory has no friends, other than Paris and Lane. So who are all the background extras at the party Rory threw together, got props for, found a costume for, etc., all without assistance and all during graduation week?
Aw man. by ExcaliburFfolkes	May 10th, 2006 09:31:19 PM
It just occured to me, now that the Palladino's are gone from the show, Herc will probably stop watching and we'll never get another Gilmore Girls talkback on AICN.
Deandome, SpyGuy, Darth_Nader, godric by Biowolf	May 10th, 2006 10:12:16 PM
Well said.
explanation, please? by sabine16	May 11th, 2006 05:49:26 AM
Could someone explain to me why Herc's review said "Something big happens to one of the Gilmores; and something bigger happens to the other." Logan goes to London for a year, and Rory, sad that we are, will see him again sometime. Lorelai was also sad and slept with a friend. . . I don't see the big deal . . .

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