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Frist??
by Lando Griffin
Apr 17th, 2006
10:23:11 PM
Sen. Bill Frist, that is
I'd hit it!
by The_Comedian
Apr 17th, 2006
10:23:58 PM
and first!
Damn, 47 seconds too late
by The_Comedian
Apr 17th, 2006
10:25:14 PM
And This movie looks decent, and that Gretchen Mol certainly is quite foxy dolled up like Page
Shoulda been a Rocketeer-era Jennifer Connelly.
by Osmosis Jones
Apr 17th, 2006
10:39:10 PM
shoulda been the real bettie page giving me a lap dance
by Silver Shamrock
Apr 17th, 2006
10:50:48 PM
hope this is good movie.
you mention 2 cinematographers
by capitol f
Apr 17th, 2006
10:56:54 PM
is it mott hupfrel or gideon ponte?
Dammit, don't tease with the Grindhouse name drop!!!
by Sinisterjim
Apr 17th, 2006
11:34:08 PM
I'm gettin' antsy with whats really going on with that one...first it's shut down, then it's not, then it's shut down for good!!! Great review by the way!
D'oh! Sorry About That...
by TheRealMoriarty
Apr 17th, 2006
11:49:34 PM
Gideon Ponte's her production designer. And I originally really thought it was a shame that this film got made instead of the Martin Scorsese/Liv Tyler version, but now... I don't think we missed anything. This is about as good as I'd hope for the Bettie story.
It's weird
by Stanley Spector
Apr 18th, 2006
12:26:28 AM
This movie's been getting great notices over the past few weeks, but it was pretty much dismissed by critics and audiences alike at the Toronto Festival last year. I was handed a ticket by someone who couldn't use it, but I couldn't use it, either, nor could I find anyone interested to whom to give it. In fact, I had brief chat with Mary Harron, and I remember deliberately steering clear of talking about how the film had been received, because I hadn't heard or read anything particularly positive. *** Well, after checking the IMDb, it seems as though the film has in fact been cut by nine minutes since it played the Festival. Hm. Now I'm interested in seeing it.
does she show her . . . boobs?
by reckni
Apr 18th, 2006
01:09:42 AM
Would probably help me lean towards seeing it.
Reckni...
by TheRealMoriarty
Apr 18th, 2006
02:43:20 AM
It would be pretty ridiculous for an actress to play Bettie Page and be afraid of nudity. One of the great things about Mol's performance is how she perfectly captures the way Bettie could pose completely undressed and still not seem dirty, no matter what the context. Mol's got an adorable '50s-style figure, too, natural and unaltered, and it gives the film an extra level of charm.
I think Mary Harron should do a horror film
by judderman
Apr 18th, 2006
03:41:50 AM
The first thing I thought coming out of "The Descent" was, "I wish it had been directed by Mary Harron."
I found it lacking...
by RenoNevada2000
Apr 18th, 2006
07:35:49 AM
Despite how beautifully it was filmed, I found that the film - aside from a single conversation with fetish photographer John Willie - never really explores the dichotomy of Page's life- though brought up in a deeply religious household, she had absolutely no problems with posing nude. How did she arrive at her rationalization that posing for pictures must be her talent, gifted to her from God?
I don't remember Dudley Moore
by broadsmile
Apr 18th, 2006
09:18:45 AM
...pulling a sword from a stone in Arthur. Butt seriously, I can't wait to see this. Real Bettie, whatever she was wearing, always has such a cute, apple pie smile or a "oooh" cupie doll look (anyone remember Jane from the Daily Mirror? - there was a film made with Glynis Barber from Blake's 7 and Dempsey and Makepeace - but I digress). She was the original Suicide Girl. Without the lesbianism (please take with a dose of a Costanza - "not that there's ANYTHING wrong with that...")
Do you think they'll do a sequel?
by rev_skarekroe
Apr 18th, 2006
09:25:34 AM
Where Bettie's life turns sour and she winds up in an institution? Yeah, that would suck.
Mary Haron is the anti-Coppola and Ephron...
by DanielKurland
Apr 18th, 2006
09:50:06 AM
And I love it. Don't get me started on how ridiculous it is that Lost in Translation won for best screenplay. And sure, Ephron has done a good movie, but look at the rest of what she's done, and what she's done lately (Bewitched). I am glad to see that Haron continues to do a good job, deals with interesting topics, and hopefully she'll only continue to amaze in the future.
A movie about a haircut
by DonkeyBalls
Apr 18th, 2006
11:25:36 AM
This movie has one thing going for it: It made me think Gretchen Mol was a better actress. But it still sucks. What pisses me off is every review I have seen for it describes the film that should have been, not the one that is. This movie SHOULD be about repression, about why Bettie of all people captured so many imaginations, etc. As it is, it just seems like the Carmen Electra story done as a period piece. I really hoped this would be a good, subversive movie that would sort of peel the scab off of the sexual repression of the era, but instead it just kinda lets the story happen in front of us, and that story is quite boring and standard. A major dissappointment.
yuck
by NathanH
Apr 18th, 2006
05:00:39 PM
I will never, ever understand people's fascination with this...skank. There are about 7 or 8 million better looking women from that era alone. Yeck, ugh, bleh... Maybe after a few drinks?....................... .............................. .............................. ........................Nooppe , stijll uygly
Betty is an icon
by phelion2
Apr 18th, 2006
06:19:28 PM
From what I have seen this was a missed opportunity to tackle the 2nd wave of the Macarthy era when they went after comics and erotica after Edward R. Murrow spanked their asses. For those who don't know, Betty fled New York when the Government started relentlessly harrassing her and Irving Klaw. She's kept pretty quiet about most of the details since now this is ancient history for her, but she settled down, went to work for Rev. Billy Graham for a few years and built a family. She lives quietly somewhere in California and those with a sense of taste have respected her desire for privacy and to be remembered as she was in her youth. Now that corporate america owns most of the porn industry it's off the theocon hit list, but they still take pot shots like the new 2257 law that has shutdown a large number of independent internet sites or forced them to move offshore (now we're outsourcing our PORN!). Betty and the Klaws suffered under the hands of Hoover's FBI Machine under the control of a bored, aloof Eisnerhower whose only contributions were Interstate Gridlock(despite the interstate highway system originally being FDR's idea) and mutilating the lyrics of the Pledge of Allegiance in a racist, childish tantrum over the burgeoning civil rights movement and irrational fears over communism.
I just gotta ask... where are the pics???
by JDanielP
Apr 19th, 2006
08:25:02 AM
I'll have an order of both the original and new. (Let's have a huge dvd release with lots of bonus features.)
Burlesque & Bettie in Nashville
by wraith777
Apr 19th, 2006
11:31:33 AM
When The Notorious Bettie Page opens in Nashville on May 12th at the Belcourt Theatre, they're having a live Burlesque show opening night too! Check it - http://www.belcourt.org/
Just imagine... an era... before porn...
by samsquanch
Apr 19th, 2006
04:15:46 PM
Just imagine it for a moment- no video cassettes, no scrambled channel 43, no free downloads.... I feel so cold... so cold...
ah yes -
by ikkyu
Apr 19th, 2006
05:08:03 PM
you can say that everyone was repressed and unhappy, but i say there's a beautiful, and wholesomely sexy, innocence about an age in which Bettie was risque, and that it's a great shame that we've lost that. nowadays our tastes are so tainted and blunted by unrestrained excess. too much of anything ends up making you sick. ah, for our innocence lost; hooray for Bettie and her guileless charm!
"Shoulda been a Rocketeer-era Jennifer Connelly"
by chien_sale
Apr 21st, 2006
03:01:33 AM
Whole heartly agree Osmosis Jones. In fact even in Mulholland`s Falls Connely is a dead ringer for Betty Page. Everythng`s there: full figured young dark hair chick, set in the 50s..naked. I think Grenchen Mol is too "sunny" and thin to play a sexy pin-up from the 50s. Because back then these were women not anorexic girl actresses.
I remember I was talking to you back in 2000, Mori...
by Lenny Nero
Apr 22nd, 2006
03:05:47 PM
...at the Gladiator screening in San Francisco, and we had both read the script adaptation of American Psycho. We were both pretty convinced that it was a mess, didn't work at all and was needlessly crazy. We had pretty much written it off, as the tone the final product gained didn't come off at all on the script. Somehow, a few months later, the film came out, and we realized what it is Harron was trying to do. The script was exploitation, but the film was a satire. What the shit...(nope, no point to this post at all. I just wanted to reminisce.)
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