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AICN COMICS REVIEWS BLUE BEETLE! DAREDEVIL! INDIE JONES PRESENTS! CASTING COUCH: EX MACHINA! AND MORE!!!

first by clintrockremix	Mar 29th, 2006 11:35:38 AM
rocking comics
First... by green_lantern01	Mar 29th, 2006 11:35:55 AM
I cant wait for the Ex Machina Movie! Its a good comic, with some really great characters! i just hope it doesn't suck!
damn... by green_lantern01	Mar 29th, 2006 11:36:35 AM
my first talkback, and i almost nailed first :(
ya know! been waiting by clintrockremix	Mar 29th, 2006 11:37:45 AM
I've been reading this site for like.. years... since i read about it in entertainment weekly back in 98 or so... anyway.. I've been waiting for blue beetle a long time... and i used to think that "first" posts were stupid... cause i could never GET one... finally... now that i have...i'll go back to thinking they are stupid again heh. but my GOD the satisfaction.
Sorry green_lantern01 by clintrockremix	Mar 29th, 2006 11:38:35 AM
My apologizes. I'll share it with you since you missed it by a few seconds.
me thinks.... by green_lantern01	Mar 29th, 2006 11:41:12 AM
That sharing first works for me! Thanks... I have been to the comic store in a while, i think the last book i picked up was Ultimates 9...but i may need to pick up Beetle, Countdown was a well written book, that had a brutal, but workable sendoff for a character i loved...
I was there Saturday by clintrockremix	Mar 29th, 2006 11:45:49 AM
I bought $120 worth of comics... shouldn't have... but I had to catch up on a few series. Kills me but I had to buy two graphic novels and a bunch of singles. I often say a drug habit might be cheaper hahaha... less rewarding though.
first by Gus Nukem	Mar 29th, 2006 11:47:05 AM
gotcha!
Zoey Deschanel should be in everything by MrBoinfoint	Mar 29th, 2006 11:55:00 AM
She should have been Lois Lane, dammit! But being in everything else would be fine, too.
Greg Land insult by AlgertMopper	Mar 29th, 2006 11:57:08 AM
Nice Greg Land kidney punch in the Hawk Girl review. Mother Fucker tracing bitch ass
Save Dan Slott's, Thing by The Heathen	Mar 29th, 2006 12:09:40 PM
http://tinyurl.com/joazt *** Nice reviews @$$holes
Heathen by clintrockremix	Mar 29th, 2006 12:12:36 PM
what exactly are you upset about?
Was it the nipples or the teeth? by bizarromark	Mar 29th, 2006 12:15:45 PM
Dave- I caught Howie's fixation on Hawkgirl's headlights, but the thing about Chaykin's art that actually scared me off was the TEETH! Those teeth.....huge sets of gritted teeth everywhere I looked. Sadly, like most "old pros", Chaykin's style appears to have become a caricature of the style from his glory days (which, admittedly, wasn't my cup of tea even then).
Ha! Ha! clintrockremix by The Heathen	Mar 29th, 2006 12:19:39 PM
My friend, the reviewers call themselves, The AICN @$$holes. Not upset at all, trust me. : ) Welcome, btw.
ooooh Heathen by clintrockremix	Mar 29th, 2006 01:00:39 PM
hahahah sorry.... i got it now... sometimes... me a little slow.. hahahaha
So Bug doesn't like Bendis, loves Straczynski by Deep Cover	Mar 29th, 2006 01:07:53 PM
How is life on the Bizarro World, buddy? That Babylon 5 t-shirt still fit you like a glove?
Who no love for Captain America? by GiggityGoo	Mar 29th, 2006 01:13:44 PM
So did Brubaker and/or Epting do something to get their product ex-communicated from the site? Cap's the best hero book on the shelves these days, but no one here seems to want to review it. Surprising, considering the impact that Issue 14 had on one of the long-time Marvel plot points.
Journal... by jazzbox2	Mar 29th, 2006 01:15:24 PM
As much as I love Zooey (and I do love her), her boobs aren't as big as Journal's. I know that sounds trite, but it's true.
Supreme Casting Decisions!!! by Fantomex	Mar 29th, 2006 01:23:14 PM
Supreme Squadron was OKAY until the last page, which had every female member of the super team dressed like whores (while standing next to the president of the united states no less). I want to buy into the grown up/mature version this comic is trying to sell, but the costumes really ruin the entire thing. The notion that they would even WEAR costumes is stupid, having them dress like incredibly cheap prostitutes is simply unbelievable. I also feel sorry for anyone reading this who didn't pick up the 5 issue hyperion mini, it must have seemed incredibly boring. BTW, your Ex Machina casting makes me want to DIE. God thats bad. I don't even like the comic all that much. But man, Matthew Broderick? You're just being mean. And you left out one of the most important characters in the book! Hello Mcfly? Why am I not suprised that the guys at A$$hole central ignore the one female character who isn't drawn like a supermodel? You didn't even bother casting the police cheif, and she's hot. Did you spend 15 minutes on this? Maybe next time you should take a gander at a few of the covers to see who the important characters are, I mean if you can't find time to read the book. Here is vastly superior list: Hundred = Ben Browder (FARSCAPE), Bradbury = Kenny Johnson (THE SHIELD), Kremlin = John Hurt (SORCEROR'S STONE), Angotti = Kim Delaney (NYPD BLUE, okay I cheated on that one), WYLIE = Tyrese Gibson (ANNAPOLIS), Moore = Piper Perabo (COYOTE UGLY), Braving = Camryn Manheim (THE PRACTICE). That took all of 15 minutes. Most of that was trying to remember John Hurt's name.
Get off of "New Avengers" already. by MattCG	Mar 29th, 2006 01:26:53 PM
Why do you keep reading it if you fucking hate it so much? I like it, your reviews are complete nonsense and Wolverine never looked at Alpha Flight like he didn't fucking know them. Bendis talks more than he fights, this is an accepted fact and you know something? "Avengers" was never that fucking great a book to begin with. So this to me is a major improvement. I would also like to add that I want "Supreme Power" back in the MAX stable, as this new incarnation is weak sauce.
Save KON-EL!!!!!! by Squashua	Mar 29th, 2006 01:28:56 PM
Bwah ha ha. Ridiculous. :-) I'll bet that 12 grassroots organizations have already started. Here's hoping that we'll see a Superboy/Superman/Lex Luthor/Zeus/Wonderbaby already born OYL.
Hawkgirl Art by Squashua	Mar 29th, 2006 01:33:17 PM
I know it seems like you like the art in Hawkgirl, but when I read it, everyone looked like they had just been hit across the head with a pipe and had to talk out of the side of their mouths. Maybe that's just me.
Politics not bad guys... by Meremoth	Mar 29th, 2006 01:41:54 PM
I think I'll pass. Politics is a bad guy, and a rather bring one at that.
Foggy's Dead by douglaswaltz	Mar 29th, 2006 02:00:22 PM
Gee, Marvel's killing people! Big surprise. I am so tired of this death and destruction crap in a format that is supposed to be escapism by nature. And as for the new Blue Beetle? Ted Kord made it his own and killing him was super wrong. The new Blue Beetle sucks on principle regardless of what the comic is like. When will these morons get a clue?
Any @$$holes or lay folk read by Shigeru	Mar 29th, 2006 02:13:30 PM
"Every Girl is the End of the World for Me"? Is it good? Should I buy it?
Good Casting On Lois Lane, Mr. Boinfoint. by Buzz Maverik	Mar 29th, 2006 02:18:07 PM
I hadn't thought of Zoey Deschanel for Lois Lane but she'd work well. The kid they have is ... cute, but Lois Lane shouldn't be cute or a kid.
I Suspect That Bug Reads AVENGERS... by Buzz Maverik	Mar 29th, 2006 02:30:15 PM
...even though he doesn't care for particular issues because he's writing reviews. When you write reviews, you write them about books you like and books you dislike, books that you find okay but maybe could be better, etc. If you just write them about stuff you like, then you're writing advertising and should be paid by a guy named Larry Tate and have a hot, blonde witch wife named Samantha in the suburbs and have a mother-in-law who turns you into a monkey every week. At the very least, you should be Kevin Bacon working for the vice-principal from THE BREAKFAST CLUB and have a knocked up, young Elizabeth McGovern at home. The key to advertising: have a wife played by an actress named Elizabeth! But I digress. I dunno if Bug hates the book. He may hate what's happening in it, or he may hate it, but I doubt if it's as simple as LOVE or HATE, the words tattooed on the knuckles and brain-hemispheres of fanboys. Also, why is it an accepted fact that Bendis talks more than he fights? Why does that have to be accepted? I'm not saying he should talk more than he fights, but I'm saying that he (and about everything else) should be questioned. Is this the only way to do something? Because, you can be a rebel and an agent of change, but when you've been doing the same thing for five plus years, you're the Establishment. You're the Man. Not Da Man, which is a good thing with the ethnic inflection, but THE Man, as in the guy everybody wants to stick it to and whom the new rebel is going make look silly. Finally, Matt, I have to ask how extensive your AVENGERS reading has been? Have you read 'em all? Of course the book's been a good read, a great read, a crap-ass read, a fair read, a sucky read and an excellent read during all the years that it existed without Bendis ... as it will be as written by Bendis and after it's written by Bendis. Well, I'm off to push drugs on Scientologists.
Kate Bosworth AKA Singer's Lois Lane by Shigeru	Mar 29th, 2006 02:40:07 PM
has a GIGANTIC forehead. She won like 4 straight head-butting competitions. It's not a forehead, it's a friggin sevenhead. ...yeah I know I have nothing useful to contribute.
Shigeru by Squashua	Mar 29th, 2006 02:48:54 PM
is right. About the first part... with the gigantic forehead.
Avengers by MattCG	Mar 29th, 2006 02:49:37 PM
I've been reading Avengers since I was a kid. (Started around 1986 and then starting hunting down back issues. I now have a complete collection, though most certainly not comprised of first printings.) While definitely not the greatest book ever, Captain America is was and always will be my favorite character. I've suffered through a lot, A LOT of crap with this book and for the record, I fucking hated that Disassembled shit. I went into New Avengers fully expecting to hate the shit out of it. I mean, Cage, Spider-Man, fucking Wolverine??? (The most overused and desperately in need of killing character in Marvel history.) But, against every ounce of doubt, New Avengers won me over. I like how he takes characters like this and gives them depth. A lot of people would rather they hit shit for 20-something pages, but not me. I like the build-up. I like that Bendis takes characters that haven't been treated properly (Cage, Spider-Woman etc.) and makes them everything they could've been if the previous handlers hadn't been so half-assed about their approach. Bug is overlooking everything good about this book. This (and Brubaker's run on Cap) s the first time I've really cared about these characters as actual characters. I think he's doing a good job and I'll continue to buy the book until he proves he doesn't know what the fuck he's doing.
Bendis' Avengers by Caped Revenger2	Mar 29th, 2006 03:01:20 PM
Bendis brings more verisimilitude to comics than just about anyone else right now. His work has far more life and originality than what Geoff Johns is doing over on INFINITE CRISIS, with its Earth 7 and six Flashes and endless time and space warps. Let's let some comics be a bit different, allow them to explore dialogue and pacing, and really look at the these fantastical characters as if they are real, or at least some version of real. Do we really need x number of pages of fight scenes in every issue? What on earth is wrong with a more thoughtful approach? It's like looking at SYRIANA or THE CONSTANT GARDNER and complaining because the main characters didn't kick major ass, or drop from a plane while shooting back up at it. Some action is good every once in a while, but let's take this breather while we can. Someday, Bendis will be off the books, and we'll return to ridiculously convoluted continuity, splash page after splash page, lots of punchs, over-muscled characters, big teeth and big boobs. I loved Marvel in the mid-1980s, when Stern wrote Spidey and Avengers, when Byrne was on FF and Alpha Flight, when Bill Mantlo (I think) was doing Cloak & Dagger, and Chris Claremont was still going strong with the X titles. Then everything went crazy, it seemed, and the books were all about holographic covers and the stories were unreadable. This is a very cool time for comics, let's let them be a little smarter, at least for a while. As for negative reviews - I am all for a negative review of something I like; it can be quite challenging. But if a TV critic doesn't like a show, he doesn't write a scathing review each week. The point about the reviewers problems with Bendis and his "talky" style are noted, but it's not likely to change. So the endless complaining about it is beginning to get tiresome. Why not make THE AVENGERS more character-based for awhile? It's interesting.
Dark Horizons posts plot of Spider-Man 3 by Trazadone	Mar 29th, 2006 03:19:11 PM
'Third film in the highly successful "Spider-Man" series sees several new villains and a new woman enter Peter Parker's life. With his secret now revealed to both Mary Jane and Harry, Peter must face the consequences of his actions and his new life together with Mary Jane as they finally form a relationship. Yet their newfound open display of love has yielded some unfortunate results, not the least of which is Peter's upset boss determined to make his life hell for causing his son emotional distress. Not helping is a young investigative reporter named Eddie Brock who Jameson has hired to find out why Mary Jane dumped his son for Peter - what's Parker's secrets? At the same time an escaped prisoner hiding out on a remote beach is caught in a dreadful accident and finds himself turned into a shape-shifting sand creature. Peter's investigations into the past of this 'Sandman' brings him in contact with two very different things that will inevitably alter his life. The first a young woman named Gwen Stacy, daughter of the city's new police chief who is developing a soft spot for Peter. The other, a black substance from an accident scene which 'merges' with Peter's costume and gives him new found abilities. Things come to a head however when Harry Osborn, determined to take revenge against Peter for his father's death and now equipped with what he needs to pull it off, teams with The Sandman in a new variation of his father's Green Goblin guise and causes mayhem. In the ensuing chaos lives are lost, including people very close to Peter, whilst the black substance covering his suit separates from him and merges with a distraught Brock to form something else entirely - a creature unlike anything he's ever faced. A 'Venom' that he may not be able to stop.'
Points Well Made, Gentlemen! by Buzz Maverik	Mar 29th, 2006 03:22:48 PM
My only major disagreement are the assumptions that pacing means SLOW. Pacing can be slow, fast, or mixed. And does depth equal dialogue? Watch the original DIRTY HARRY movies. In the lands of a lesser actor, Harry would spout some badass catch phrases and kill people. With Clint Eastwood, you look at his eyes, the way he pauses, the way he holds himself and you realize this is the loneliest sunuvabitch ever to be in an American movie. This is God's Lonely Man. But Harry Callahan is never going to say that. He's not going to piss or moan or cry. He's still going to take out punks and dirtbags. I consider DIRTY HARRY a work of great depth. Ditto non-HARRY Clint such as TIGHTROPE, ESCAPE FROM ALCATRAZ, UNFORGIVEN. But these guys are never going to chatter. You're never going to get a "brilliant" John Rambo monologue ("I want what...I want...it's what I want...I want it!") from these guys. In visual mediums, we can learn a lot about a character by what they do. In many cases, what they do can be why they exist. I'm not saying Bendis, a writer whom I admire in many ways, is guilty of this, but have you ever noticed, like when you're out a restraunt, there'll be somebody with a loud voice at another table and they talk a lot, and they have absolutely nothing to say. Yet, J. Edgard Hoover could be there (I pick him for the same reason Seinfeld did, with the law enforcement and the cross dressing, he'd be a pretty interesting person to talk with)and not say shit. Like Jesus, Buddha, Mohammed and Moses could be splitting a pizza and softly saying, "We will each state one of the four tennents of the true meaning of everything. You start, Mo..." and some bitch drowns them out,"And so I called him and said did he want to hook up with you and he said no, I don't wanna hook up with her and then he goes wait,he goes yeah, I'll hook up with her if it's just a hook up.." Finally, I take exception to the idea that it has to be ALL fights or ALL talk. Those are absolutes and cliches. C'mon. Writers and fans need to have more imagination than that. But I have to tell ya, if it's people named Iron Man, Captain America, Spider-Man, Spider-Woman, Spider-Hermaphradite, Wolverine, etc. talking a lot, well, that's just people with goofy names. They'd better DO something to live up to those goofy names while they talk. I mean, if ya call yerself The Avengers...avenge me, aaaa-vennnnge ME! Otherwise, call yourself Bunch O' Bored Guys Like Us.
This just in: George Clooney not Schwarzenegger. by SleazyG.	Mar 29th, 2006 03:32:34 PM
I saw SYRIANA, and I really liked it. If it was billed as COMMANDO II, though, and then had Arnie standing around doing nothing for two hours, I would've hated it. What it comes down to is this: Do the FUCKING Avengers stop criminals by standing around running their yaps? NO. If they did this book would be called THE NEW UNITED STATES CONGRESS. The Avengers are there to face dangerous physical assaults by enemies too great for our conventional forces to resist. Does anybody honestly believe that the Iron Man suit was created to make it easier for a guy to stand around talking? Does anybody think of Wolverine as a wise negotiator? Does anybody say "that Luke Cage...now there's a guy who could talk the Kingpin into dropping out of the narcotics trade?" Gimme a fuckin' break. The idea that people who think Bendis is doing a pisspoor job just want to watch mindless punch-ups is missing the fucking point. The point is that every single character in the Avengers has been neutered, turned into a spineless pussy who routinely needs somebody else to pull their fat outta the fire. A bunch of dull, pointless yammering followed by Dr. Strange or Magneto or The White Queen or SHIELD or Echo or whoeverthefuck saving the asses of Marvel's heaviest hitters isn't just really fucking stupid, it's a betrayal of the individual characters and the team known as The Avengers. Betraying the essence of the characters in service of a story idea you had is horseshit: you have to learn how to tell that story and still maintain a sense of consistency with who the characters are and what they represent. Shaking up the status quo just to shake it up (oh, joy--NEW AVENGERS DISASSEMBLED this summer! Can't wait!) is just bad writing, plain and simple. It feels completely forced and out of character, which is why some of us think it flat-out sucks. Of course, some people apparently like it well enough, and more power to him, but damned if I'm wasting any more of my money on this garbage.
Amen, Sleazy. by The Heathen	Mar 29th, 2006 04:08:38 PM
Exactly. It's not that Bendis is a bad writer, but he has dropped the ball and I fear he may not recover it in this game, season, or franchise even. For the record, I buy New Avengers. I liked the first 3 issues and #8 was really good too (the one issue the Avengers fought the Wrecker), but I've fucking had it with this book. It's New Avengers! Like Buzz said, they should be AVENGING!!! I can take this approach and understand it on a Bendis book like Daredevil, Powers, Alias or The Pulse, but for Avengers I expact some action. Sleazy nailed it: Syriana's good, but if it was titled something like Commando then who in their bright and right minds wouldn't be pissed off? I am. About this particular issue? I even found Deadato's art to be lacking and I've liked his recent stuff on Amazing Spidey, but here? - this issue looks rushed. The story? Well, someone said what was wrong with the build up in NA? To answer that, it's been build up for 17 issues now and there's no real payoffs. We still don't have a clear view of the Sentry or who or what he is (besides wasted material), the team went public, Echo saved them sorta and hasn't been there since, Spider-Woman is a double agent, Ms. Marvel helped out and
The trouble with Bendis... by LouStick	Mar 29th, 2006 04:10:31 PM
Or rather, MY problem with Bendis. Can sum it up in two words: editorial control. Or rather, the complete LACK of it. There are places where his approach to writing works, and places where it fails. Daredevil it works, because the scope of the world is a bit smaller, because we've come to expect Daredevil stories to focus on things like moral amiguities, and it's been a place where traditional aspects of the superhero genre can be examined in more realistic ways. The whole 'Born Again' storyline is a perfect exemple of this-Miller took one of the most well-established concepts, the secret identity, and turned it on its ear. Bendis did a great job of examining what would be further ramifications of that storyline when he took over the book, and it led to a lot of interesting places. It also allowed him to hone his familiar style...the dialogue, the use of tangential characters, etc. Problems is: Avengers is not Daredevil, it is not Alias, Ultimate Spidey, Pulse, or Powers, but the eidtors are letting him write like it is. The reason I stopped buying his work (and I was enjoying it for a while) is to me, it feels like the total triumph of style over substance-character & sturcture. Marvel seems content to let him do whatever he wants, from pointlessly murdering supporting characters before their prime (Ultimate Gwen Stacy, Hawkeye) to letting him bog down plots with over-extended gab-fests (umm, pretty much all his books) that don't service the plot in any significant way. The whole effect of which, to me, is like putting steak sauce on dog food...stylistic gloss over shoddy structure and less thought-out characers. The steak sauce is good, don't get me wrong...but I'd rather have it on a piece of prime rib, or even a plain old burger than the cans of alpo he regularly serves up now.
Please. Foggy isn't dead. by Rodimus Ben	Mar 29th, 2006 04:12:18 PM
Brubaker couldn't have made it any more obvious to anyone who's read more than two comic books in their lifetime. Last issue, Matt did not specifically hear his heart stop beating. This issue, Dakota North trails off after talking about him still being alive in the ambulance. Come on. So they have a funeral for him. Big whoop. Obviously this is part of a big plan, though I can't say for certain who among Matt's friends is in on it (Black Widow would be my guess). They've got someone (Iron Fist being the most likely candidate) posing as DD on the outside, they "kill off" Foggy to remove him from danger, then wait it out until the prosecution can't build a case against Murdock.
Well put, LouStick by The Heathen	Mar 29th, 2006 04:20:22 PM
Editorial control has been brought up before and it's probably the greatest thing from keeping New Avengers
AVENGERS is NOT SYRIANA or THE CONSTANT GARDENER... by superhero	Mar 29th, 2006 04:22:01 PM
And stop pretending that it is. And have you LOOKED at Spider-Woman's boobs lately? We're already in the era of "ridiculously convoluted continuity, splash page after splash page, lots of punchs, over-muscled characters, big teeth and big boobs." Or are you not reading the same superhero books I am?
Spider Woman has Hydra Implants by Squashua	Mar 29th, 2006 04:28:25 PM
Read her ORIGIN or NEW AVENGERS. In one of those issues where they show her going BACK to Hydra to get her powers back, she's on a Hydra operating table and losing all her hair from treatments, but it's QUITE obvious they've got boob implants on the surgery table.
What got me to stop reading comics the first time? by The Heathen	Mar 29th, 2006 04:42:56 PM
Onslaught. And now he's back
Chuck Norris and your virginity by nemler	Mar 29th, 2006 04:52:33 PM
Hey Humphrey, Didn't Chuck Norris take your virginity just the same as Nextwave..er, no?
Nextwave review by XAOS	Mar 29th, 2006 04:52:55 PM
Is the most uninformative sequence of words alleging to be about a subject I have ever encountered. Brava, diva!
Speaking of by The Heathen	Mar 29th, 2006 04:56:49 PM
Put your thinking caps on, you naughty children. MATH TIME!!! Try to solve this equation: Corrupt policeman + giant, hungry robot
by Caped Revenger2	Mar 29th, 2006 04:58:23 PM
The point about characters like Dirty Harry and Rambo not talking so much is a good one. You're right - those characters "say" a lot more by not saying much at all. It's all the look in their eyes or what they actually do. But in many ways, those characters aren't so identifiable anymore - it's why you don't see many Clint Eastwood or Arnold Schwarzenneggar movies anymore, or why Harrison Ford movies like FIREWALL are all but forgotten - it's more interesting to see characters who are more nervous, less self-assured. I am a Batman fan, but I go crazy over Spider-Man - that perfect mix of a chatty, nervous kid who almost forgets he's as strong and powerfulas he is, because, no matter what, he is and always will be the skinny kid who was picked on at school. (Toby Maguire did a good job in the movie, but I prefer him in the wisecracking mode). Anyway - I did like Bendis' rendition of Matt Murdock precisely because he did so little talking. This latest issue by Brubaker - while extremely well-plotted - is missing, it seems, those tiny little details in the corners. Murdock now has that running interior monologue where he says things - albeit to himself - such as "Daredevil has always been me held in check. They've never met the real Matt Murdock." That, to me, is too much talking. Too much self-reflection. I went back to a Bendis issue I had handy (since I am at work, but I always have a couple of comics stashed nearby, it seems) # 56 to be exact, and, indeed, there are four or five pages of dialogue, dialogue, dialogue - but it's all Ben Urich, which feels appropriate. It seems like Murdock was usually clammed up, except when he finally replied to the rantings of others. One more thing - some people have replied that they would have been disappointed in SYRIANA if it had been described as COMMANDO II and been what it was. I completely understand. But in the comic book world, we either see old books handled radically differently, or we have new versions, such as ASTRO CITY. Personnaly, I like the super-talky Avengers, as opposed to a variation on the Avengers, by another name, being handled this way. But I do understand the plotting thing. Bendis' style married to an old-fashioned plot is when he is at his best. ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN, where he is essentially redoing old plots, and even DAREDEVIL, where he started off by basically picking up "Born Again" are when he is at his best. Original plots haven't been so inspired, I will certainly admit.
Besides the 'talky talk' in NA by The Heathen	Mar 29th, 2006 05:59:59 PM

That Nextwave review... by Psynapse	Mar 29th, 2006 06:03:04 PM
was so awesome I shit and pissed myself, while snarfing Coffee all over my keyboard. Then my my shit, piss, and snot-filled coffee went out and beat the hell out of 65 senior citizens, killing them and turning them into zombies.
Foggy's not dead by +	Mar 29th, 2006 06:20:22 PM
like smallville killing pa kent i fail to care because i fail to believe.
DC's OYL shit is really fucking boring. by dregmobile	Mar 29th, 2006 06:38:33 PM
I think Zero Hour was more exciting. They have totally underwhelmed so far. Killing off the JLA title? Thanks. That was the only DC title I really liked. Justice is good. JLA Classified OK. The rest just looks like toasted bland.
Mayor Hundred by kuryakin	Mar 29th, 2006 07:25:40 PM
I always imagined him as a Bill Pullman type. Michael Rooker, though, that's a good call. And Zooey Deschanel. But I would have Willem Defoe as Kremlin and for the laddie above who complained about it, the woman who plays Cuddy on House as the police chief. But who cares? Because it will be a shitty movie Fuck it- this only works as a comic just like Samuel Beckett only works as theatre. What is it with us comic reading people that we want to suck up with non-comic people? I mean, come on - I am as guilty as anyone else of doing this but we really do seem to try and court the affections of non-SF or fantasy loving people, by convincing them that this shit is 'normal'."Yeah - ExMachina, it's lik Spider-Man meets the West Wing." You know, it's like BSG, where we try and push an SF show on people by playing down the SF elements. I just feel like - FUCK IT. I like science fiction. I like comics. Why try and sell this shit to people who don't get it? Why are we ashamed of liking this stuff? Like that fat fucking kid in Donnie Darko says "I'm not afraid anymore! " I'll happily stand toe to toe with any fucker and argue that She Hulk is pure art.Ok now I need to pee
JLA by kuryakin	Mar 29th, 2006 07:39:12 PM
was always kind of boring and silly to me. But I picked up the JSA about 7 or 8 months ago and I have grown to love it. I knew nothing about the series or the characters, nothing about their history or motives- yet I enjoyed the series and kept going with it. JSA Classified is the best DC title out there I think, with the exception of Birds of Prey. Honestly - if you were a new reader would you understand ANYTHING that is going on in DC these days? I'm sure I'm not alone in thinking the whiny Justice League are better off gone. Until people can write these characters with some fun and style, just get rid of them altogether. Don't you feel -when reading JLA- like a mother with a miserable teenage kid? Don't you feel like saying - Oh, fucking grow up you miserable little prick! And pick your feet up when you walk! And don't you dare slam that bedroom door!!
No Love for TMNT by Shadowhawk	Mar 29th, 2006 10:02:56 PM
I have to say that the two Ninja Turtles comics, the regular series, and "Tales of the TMNT" are great. Some of the best I'm currently reading. These titles never get any love from aicn. :(
Hero Saves Self & Others = Harry Potter... by Buzz Maverik	Mar 29th, 2006 10:32:01 PM
...author is JK Rowling level. Hero is on the side lines, action "off screen", others must save themselves = Charlie Bone and author is Jenny Nimmo level...Hell, it didn't quite work but that's why Peter Jackson put Adrian Brody in Kong's way and him up in the Empire state building (we didn't want Jack to be Kong's killer or we could have had him flying a plane!).
Sometimes, I Think We're Too Small To Even Dream Big .. by Buzz Maverik	Mar 29th, 2006 10:33:40 PM
...any more. I mean, just because we sit around "talking" about meaningless crap all day on one board or another, we can't even imagine our heroes doing much different.
Avengers by DarkZero	Mar 29th, 2006 11:20:15 PM
You know that a reviewer just totally hates a comic and/or its writer when they take things out of context. In the issue of New Avengers, when Wolverine says "Is that Alpha Flight?", it's actually because he's the only one that DOES recognize them. Whereas everyone else sees nothing but a twisted pile of body parts, Wolverine sees a twisted pile of body parts that's actually familiar. There was hardly anything left of them. ---- And yes, The Sentry is pathetic, but my personal opinion is that he's pathetic in an interesting way. I'm also assuming that this story is running parallel to The Sentry Vol. 2, so it actually makes sense that he wouldn't appear. He's crazier than ever. ---- I totally agree about the rest of it, though. The whole "We're just going to stand here" thing was actually pretty cool, but the way they run off was hilarious in what seemed to be a totally unintentional way. Also, there's really not enough content in this story arc. Both issues could've been released as just a single comic without all the filler, and I bet that when the third one is released, it still won't bring the entire arc up to enough content to fill an issue of, say, Invincible.
bendis...yawn... by blackthought	Mar 30th, 2006 12:06:55 AM
my pupils are dialated.
and... by blackthought	Mar 30th, 2006 12:10:24 AM
is it me or just my imagination...but its quite cold in here...
my apologies... by blackthought	Mar 30th, 2006 12:13:54 AM
i found out myself...it is cold...according to hawkgirl's nipples anyway.
The Devil's Panties by Averyslave	Mar 30th, 2006 12:32:30 AM
Awesome to see "The Devil's Panties" get some play. Her stuff is hilarious. She did a few promotional comics for the indie flick "Geekin'" a while back and we greatly enjoyed working with her. (http://www.geekinmovie.com/ - click on the "Geeks Gone Wild" post-it.)
ultimates by steverodgers	Mar 30th, 2006 12:45:14 AM
first time talk backer
Ahh, nipples... by AstroThunder	Mar 30th, 2006 02:24:33 AM
Bless you, Howard Chaykin. If only the dames I date and eventually get dumped by were drawn by you... Ahh, to dream. Good reviews all around; makes me realize that I keep forgetting to get into Manhunter and that I owe Bill Brasky a drink *** Good casting for Ex Machina. Not going to dispute the supporting cast which is pretty much spot on, but I think that Mitchell Hundred would be better played by Cary Elwes -- still very personable, can probably hide his accent all right, and he's got the look.
GiverofTruth here's your clue! by douglaswaltz	Mar 30th, 2006 07:27:11 AM
At what point in my rant did I come across as sensitive. I am merely stating that the comics world in general has been playing the doom and gloom death card waaaay too much lately. Plus I never called Ted Kord a major player I stated that he made the character of Blue Beetle work. Period. I also NEVER said I wasn't going to read the comic. Go read between someone else's lines and get your own freaking clue
douglaswaltz by Shigeru	Mar 30th, 2006 08:47:25 AM
"The new Blue Beetle sucks on principle regardless of what the comic is like." To me it sounds like you're prejudging. Could just be me, but I dunno!
next wave #3 by donopolis68	Mar 30th, 2006 08:49:30 AM
What the f*** was that. I have a problem with this review in the fact that it wasn't a review. I guess "Humphrey" liked the book, or was that sarcasim? was it some form of a joke that you had to read the comic to understand or was it just poor writing? I don't know...that just sucked. I want my 15 seconds back. D-
steverodgers by Shigeru	Mar 30th, 2006 08:49:53 AM
Hey welcome to the TB! Ultimates is indeed amazing and awesome and worthy of all praise. I'm not sure if the @$$holes reviewed this most recent issue...but regardless it's a few weeks old so too late anyways.
I mentioned Zooey as Lois Lane last year by rev_skarekroe	Mar 30th, 2006 09:24:18 AM
Right after "Hitchhiker's..." came out. But did anyone listen? Nooooo.
the hell? by Shigeru	Mar 30th, 2006 09:29:21 AM
NEW Avengers Disaasembled? Loeb/Liefeld on a HEROES REBORN/ONSLAUGHT relaunch? Oh wait, hahaha okay Marvel I get it, April Fools! Right? ......?
Also, the new "New Avengers" was just OK. by rev_skarekroe	Mar 30th, 2006 09:37:22 AM
Not an "awful, awful comic". But it's no work of genius either. Just OK. But like Mr. Maverick is so fond of saying, fanboys just can't seem to realize that there can be any middle ground when it comes to opinions.
Also, I'll be dropping "New Avengers" with "Civil War" by rev_skarekroe	Mar 30th, 2006 09:43:26 AM
Based on the preview issue that just came out, I have absolutely no interest. But I suspect we'll all be discusisng that next week.
Also, do you ever feel like a jackass at the comic shop by rev_skarekroe	Mar 30th, 2006 09:45:43 AM
When you walk up to the counter and all you've got is superhero stuff? The only non-men in tights book I bought this week was Spike vs. Dracula #2. I always feel like there's an indie creator looking over my shoulder with a single tear running down his cheek.
ah... by blackthought	Mar 30th, 2006 10:16:06 AM
so liefeld is still getting work...interesting...er....
re: GiverofTruth by The Heathen	Mar 30th, 2006 11:32:05 AM
Yep, I stand by that one. NOBODY liked Disassembled. It's a universal opinion
Welcome, steverodgers! by The Heathen	Mar 30th, 2006 11:36:21 AM
I'd say more about The Ultimates, but I just started reading the first volume yesterday! So, for now I have to avoid the spoilers. But afterwards I'd love to talk about it. Shigeru said I should be beaten for not having read it
chaykin, bendis by John Dalmas	Mar 30th, 2006 12:40:07 PM
Love Chaykin; one of the most original, idiosyncratic and flat-out weird creators comics have produced. And he does draw the hottest women in comics, even though they often look like they're speaking through gritted teeth. That said, he really, really, really needs to stop dressing them in mid-eighties fashion. Hot twentysomething women no longer wear high-waisted jeans rolled to mid-calf with leather jackets that have big, studded shoulder pads. What I'm saying is that Hawkgirl disappointed me. I don't think Bendis is the anti-christ, but I do think he's a weak, hamstrung writer. Basically, he rips off TV and movies that he likes and tries to shoehorn them into superhero comics under the auspices of doing something different. Wasn't his last issue of Daredevil a theft of the ending of '25th hour' (a movie he's said he's a big fan of)? I really liked Powers' riff on 'Homicide' for awhile, then I realized the man couldn't plot a mystery to save his life, with the story arcs treading water for five chapters, then bringing in a resolution from left field in the last chapter. But at least in Powers, given the dynamics of the book, this style of chatty writing worked. It simply doesn't translate across genres. Having people talk a lot does not necessarily "deepen" or "enrich" them as characters. What it does is make them resemble people on TV and in movies, and creates the illusion that what you're reading is somehow more "authentic" characterization because, well, it resembles TV and movies. Basically, my thing with the dude is that it's always been apparent that he loves comics... and that what he really wants to do is write for television.
Hrmm by The Heathen	Mar 30th, 2006 12:55:00 PM
But Yoda thinks that by killing people you set them free, doesn't he? I better stop before this tb get's turned into a 'Lucas raped my childhood' thing. That, or Buzz comes up with a 1,000 different and better things that 'could' have happened. It's not that it's because Hawkeye went out like a chump, although he even said, "Not like this!" I'm honestly happy that Dan Slott is getting to play with bringing Clint back in She-Hulk anyway, but that doesn't mean that I think Bendis is the Antichrist. I've said that I think he's a good writer, but he needs an editor who will edit him and Joey Q. needs to get the cigar out of his ass and tell him so as well. And despite everything I feel about Bendis and NA
I meant 'Civil' and 'mixed' of course by The Heathen	Mar 30th, 2006 01:02:36 PM
Good points on Bendis, Dalmas.
That Nextwave Review... by Psynapse	Mar 30th, 2006 01:30:31 PM
Was so badass it went back in time and kicked donopolis68's dad so hard in the nuts that his mom had to sleep with her brother and thus produced the liddle troll that showed up on the TB today.
uh-oh by blackthought	Mar 30th, 2006 01:31:12 PM
don't let vale read your bendis musings dalmas.
perhaps, but by The Heathen	Mar 30th, 2006 01:50:34 PM
we usually don't wait a month between episodes of Lost and 24 is non stop baby! And in the case of NA it's the opposite, as much as we like dialogue and bantering scenes, there has to be something in between the discussions, and the
Blue Beetle and Avengers by Homer Sexual	Mar 30th, 2006 01:52:49 PM
I wasn't going to buy Blue Beetle until I read the review here. I picked it up and enjoyed it. The dialogue was fun, the whole issue was satisfying light entertainment. I do wonder how long before it gets boring, but the first issue was successful. Now, the New Avengers isn't the worst ever, because although I've read Avengers since the end of the storyline that first introduced Hellcat, I have periodically dropped it and I am still reading NA, it is kind of lame. I guess I buy it because my appreciation for Bendis' development of Spider-Woman and Luke Cage is stronger than my distaste over how Iron Man and Cap act, or the fact that Wolverine is even in this book.
GiverofTruth...... by Psynapse	Mar 30th, 2006 01:53:57 PM
1. TV shows come out weekly (okay so a few week's at a time but still) whereas comics come out once a month (if that) and ANY writer worth the jam under their toes knows that dragging out dramatic tension too long is one of the quickest ways to kill interest in the story. Such techniques work in TV, BECAUSE IT'S FREAKING TELEVISION. They do NOT work in comics because THEY'RE FREAKING COMICS. The differences between the 2 mediums are (currently) FAR, FAR greater than any similiarities that may exist. 'It works on TV, why can't it work in comics?' is the silliest thing I've read on this column in a LOOOONG time.
New Avengers Disassembled? Onslaught? by Homer Sexual	Mar 30th, 2006 01:56:09 PM
Ok, those are jokes, right? The New Avengers aren't even Assembled properly, how can they be Disassembled? And Onslaught is when I dropped some books back in the day as well. This must be a sick joke.
Apparently, 1 person liked Avengers Disassembled by Homer Sexual	Mar 30th, 2006 01:58:24 PM
And that was GiverofTruth. I can only think of two things universally hated here since I started reading AICN. One was Catwoman (the movie, of course) and Avengers:Disassembled was the other. Which of those two was worse? ......hmmm.... still thinking.
Hawkgirl by Homer Sexual	Mar 30th, 2006 02:01:38 PM
Hawkgirl was very disappointing. I have always liked the Hawks and bought the first 20 issues of this series. I also looooove the way Hawkgirl is portrayed on the animated JLA/JLU programs. And I even loved Chaykin's oft-panned Challengers mini. Plus, huge fan of Simonson's Thor run. Yet with all of that, I was so bored by Hawkgirl I had to start over like 4 times and it took about 6 days before I finally finished. She was never in costume, and it was just so dull..so no 51 for me.
See by The Heathen	Mar 30th, 2006 02:11:21 PM
Homer, I couldn't even watch two minutes of Catwoman, so I say that one wins/loses. And GiverofTruth, do you like Disassebled? I don't think you've stated your official opinion. I'm curious to know. If you do, please enlighten me. Homer, "he New Avengers aren't even Assembled properly, how can they be Disassembled?" That was classic. And screw Onslaught! Bad, bad memories man.
Bendis? This seems like a job for Vale by El Vale	Mar 30th, 2006 02:18:20 PM
Ah where to begin? Ok, NA seems interesting and here's why: Superhero books don't exist anymore. PURELY superhero books, i mean. They've been so prominent for such a long time that the genre doesn't really exist as a genre so much as a backstory or a familiar setting. These superhero books aren't really about being a streaight faced superhero and what that entails, they're humor/adventure books starring people with superpowers or action/political consipiracy books starring familiar superheros. NA? A book about superheros standing around talking and being pussies. Sounds interesting to me (In fact the books's already saved in my hard drive but i can't bring myself to read it because i skimmed through a couple issues and i can't stand the Finch art). Some people are making the point that just because all you do is stand around and talk doesn't mean you're actually saying something, and it's a good point but i can't relate Bendis to that scenario (remember i said I, EYE, ME, VALE) because i've always been impressed with his dialogue and wordiness, not because it's SO EDGY and because I TALK LIKE THAT, but because his characters say fascinating things. Often, when reading a Bendis book, i get the feeling i get when watching a Wes Anderson movie or a PTA movie, the sense that i'm seeing this scene for the very first time, the sense that no one's ever said that in a movie, or in this case a comic. (Bear in mind i've only read Powers and Daredevil). One talkbacker mentioned Bendis' dialogue and wordiness is completely deliberate and he cited Matt Murdock as an example of this and i couldn't agree more, so maybe Bendis DOES get these characters, because in the end "getting a character" is a completely subjective experience and you're obviously going to gravitate, as a reader, towards a writer who gets the character the same way you do, and you'll spew venom at one who sees the character in a completely different way. Happens in real life, why can't it happen in comics as well? Another thing i wanted to say is Marvel clearly doesn't see this series as Avengers written by Bendis. No, it's Bendis' Avengers, the same way it was Morrison's X-Men. So if he wants to have the Avengers stop crime by masturbating simultaneously, he'll do just that and you can either be insulted or not give a shit. If he wants to do NA: Dissassembled, he'll do it (Especially if no one liked the first one, perhaps he thinks he can write a Dissassembled that doesn't suck, ever think of that?) and i repeat, you can either be insulted or not give a shit, because it's a free country and Marvel can't put a gun to your head a force you to buy it. I know, it's too bad they can't be YOUR Avengers instead of Bendis' Avengers, but life isn't fair, i chopped off part of my left index finger slicing some cheese last night and i certainly did nothing to deserve that. Oh well.
GiverofTruth re: No Psynapse... by The Heathen	Mar 30th, 2006 02:19:46 PM
Here's an example. Say in 24 all they did was have one big discussion in the Presidents bunker. You have Logan, Mike, Aaron, etc. just talking it out for an hour - nothing else happens. Can you honestly tell me that by next week you'd have anything to say but, "They talked about the terrorists attacking, and
but I hated HoM by The Heathen	Mar 30th, 2006 02:23:10 PM
So no, not a good thing. And I guess that means that your like or dislike also depends on whether or not you like HoM. The plot thickens
I Agree With El About Superhero Books Not Existing ... by Buzz Maverik	Mar 30th, 2006 02:37:09 PM
...much any more. It's a shame. Superheroes sometimes exist in movies, on TV, in cartoons, but not in comic books. It seems all other mediums do them better and are not afraid of doing them. This is not a good thing at all. This is why comic book sales are down. This is why comics are speciality item that you have to go to weird little hobby shop to get. This is why kids don't read comics and why there won't be new readers. And that is why many of you will wake up one Wednesday and find there are no more comics.
Thank you Heathen... by Psynapse	Mar 30th, 2006 02:37:41 PM
It's been an annoying and eedjit filled day here in the world of industrial hydraulics and I was all set to unloose some flaming scathe on the that steaming pile of sophistry dressed up as something plausible. Nice try Giverof, nice try but no teddy bear for you.
Not taking a single dump in an entire day. by Shigeru	Mar 30th, 2006 02:37:43 PM
THAT'S what I would call a bad development!
GiverofTruth by Shigeru	Mar 30th, 2006 02:54:32 PM
I think the complaint about NA isn't that we can't remember what happens from ish to ish and need things to be nice and simple, but the fact that there is NOTHING to remember. Yeah all dialogue and maybe some walking or traveling in a car or a plane so they can talk in a different room wouldn't be so bad if it was fascinating things they were talking about, but unfortunately....not. Bendis writes great dialogue but that doesn't get you a free pass on story.
Psy does not suck up to me by The Heathen	Mar 30th, 2006 02:56:24 PM
He's a friend and has had my back too many times for me to count. In this case, I think he was simply refering to you sir, not saying Disassembled was either A) good or B) bad. Btw, A or B? And sure there could have been some great dialogue in an all bunker edition of 24, but your right, "Lots of words don't automatically make a bad plot" but they do if the story doesn't go anywhere. Case in point, New Avengers.
"doesn't get you a free pass on story." by The Heathen	Mar 30th, 2006 03:00:53 PM
Yup.
Vale: I'm not insulted, and I don't not give a shit too by Shigeru	Mar 30th, 2006 03:01:27 PM
I give a shit cause I love Marvel comics and Marvel superheroes and characters. Yeah a writer has the fundamental human right to write Avengers doing jack shit and masturbating to stop crime. And I won't buy that. But I don't want to never again buy a story starring the Avengers for the rest of my life. That would be a bummer. So I give a shit. And I'm not really sure I agree with "These superhero books aren't really about being a streaight faced superhero and what that entails, they're humor/adventure books starring people with superpowers or action/political consipiracy books starring familiar superheros." By that definition no comic has ever been a Superhero book.
Heathen by Shigeru	Mar 30th, 2006 03:04:20 PM
"and has had my back too many times for me to count." heh. careful how you word things having to do with the queercog. low brow I admit but I'm bored.
I can never remember what happened in "Y: The Last Man" by rev_skarekroe	Mar 30th, 2006 03:07:23 PM
Of course, it doesn't help that lately he keeps changing the POV from issue to issue.
I don't buy NA by Shigeru	Mar 30th, 2006 03:11:15 PM
I kinda read it on the shelve and put it back. "but I don't think NA really be that much better if it read as one big snuff film. " Please see Buzz about fanboys only thinking in black and white terminology.
Shigeru, glad you got it! by The Heathen	Mar 30th, 2006 03:17:01 PM
Hey, low brow's okay sometimes. I was going to go with something about sucking up, but I'm happy with what we got. Heh. And Vale, "perhaps he thinks he can write a Dissassembled that doesn't suck, ever think of that?" All the time, but in this case I think it's spite. Nice post though, but I think currently, that at least DC has acknowledged that in Infinite Crisis about supers being super, and what not.
I did refer to it by The Heathen	Mar 30th, 2006 03:25:17 PM
and I'm not saying that it was the WORST thing ever written, but I think that it was universally disliked
Ex Machina Casting by Brother Zag	Mar 30th, 2006 03:38:23 PM
I just can't see Broderick as Mayor Hundred. He's too nice. Too soft. I'm thinking we need someone who's been to "war" (Band of Brothers), yet has bureaucratic experience (Office Space): Ron Livingston! Rooker rocks, good choice for Bradbury. Kremlin... Irons is too English, not rugged enough. Gotta get someone crustier. Kurt Russell or Bruce Willis or Terrance Stamp. For some reason, I've always seen Malcom Jamal Warner as Deputy Mayor Wylie, don't have the foggiest (er, uh daredevil pun intended) idea why. Journal... ah, who should be Journal? She's been cast in my mind all along, too: Julia Stiles. Has to be. Heh... I love these things! Thanks, guys!
Okay Fuckwit, there went the gloves.. by Psynapse	Mar 30th, 2006 04:01:07 PM
You wanna play snarky little word games? Fine, get ready motherfucker. "I'm curious as to why you think having the attention span of a three year old makes your enjoyment of comics that much better than mine." Wow, you not only completely twist my words into something completely different but you also belittle me in the process! HOW FUCKING ORIGINAL. I mean, whoo I am SO goddamn impressed (not really). FYI: Attention span is the amount of time a person can concentrate on a single activity. Your rubber-science equating of attention span with span of interest is made even more laughable by your attempt to use it as a means to 'wittily' insult me you utterly pedestrian little fuck (apologies to the little fucks out there I had to group this knuckle-dragger somewhere). "An inability to remember something in a 30 day period, when did that become a badge of honor?" I will refer you back to the CORRECT definition of attention span on that 'gem' of conversation (and I by 'gem' I mean 'steaming pile of worm-infested cowshit'). Since I can't decide if you're more laughable than pathetic I guess I'll have to settle on laughably patetic at that. Next time try to actually know what the fuck you're even talking about shitstain....
Friends, Cogs, lend me your ears... by Ambush Bug	Mar 30th, 2006 04:40:25 PM
You guys might as well give it up. GiverOfTruth is a troll who also goes by the name of SeeThruThis. He's been tooling around this TB for ages in hopes to find people to argue with. He's just a sad product of the internet. Time and time again he has been banned (to be honest, he's the only person we have ever banned from AICN Comics) and time and time again he logs back in under a different name and generally makes the TB a toxic place to congregate. Early in this talkback, we recognized the resurgence of this troll and tried to play nice by letting him in for a while to see if he's developed the ability to play with others and time and time again he proves that he can't. My advice, ignore him. He is unable to have an argument without completely misunderstanding and misconstruing each and every post you do. Some say that for every five minutes an adult has an argument with a child, the adult decreases in age five years. The same goes here. Any attempt to talk and reason with this troll will just make you regret your posts afterwards. Friendly workd of advice, save them for talkbackers who matter. SeeThru/GiverOfTruth/whatever lame moniker he hides behind surely doesn't. All he comes here for is argument and attention. I learned long ago that without that he simply fades away because he simply has nothing else to offer.
Thanks, Bug.. by Psynapse	Mar 30th, 2006 05:14:23 PM
Much love to all me @$$es and Cogs this fine Thursday.
Yeah, More Than Insulted Or Not Give A Shit... by Buzz Maverik	Mar 30th, 2006 05:34:48 PM
...you can call poor writing poor writing. You can call a misuse of the medium what it is. Why should you keep quiet because people don't want to hear it? Fuck that. Writing isn't writing and storytelling isn't storytelling despite the medium. The medium is everything. The medium is the message. Frankly, TV couldn't get away with the shit comics do. The TV audience is the mainstream, guys. Something, in some way, has to be happening or the Norm family is switching channels. It can be emotional conflict, etc. It can all take place in one room, be all verbal, but it has to move or the show is cancelled. TV has even more rigid constraints because it all has to be written around commercials. Even with these season long things, each episode has criteria it has to meet and the TV writers are better at it than the comic writers (well, Bendis) because they know how to do set-up/build up simultaneously with the structure of the single episode. Guys like Bendis have convinced themselves, and their fans, that what their doing is so much a part of a longer, more significant work that some of the issues you're buying are the equivalent of buying a roll of Lifesavers that only contains the empty space in the center. This wouldn't be tolerated in film or TV, novels, whatever. So much of this depends on fanboy intellectual pretension and comic book intellectualism where everything you know is from a comic book or a "creator" interview. They teach a few catch phrases like "Thirty pages of fights" and that's the alternative to 30 pages of talking. Two guys on a bare Second City theater stage can talk all night in a David Mamet play, but they're talking about the women they've fucked, things they've done, that's what you're there to experience. Since this is the best way to present this on a bare stage, this works. Put it on film and we're at least going to see what they're talking about with a voice over. The whole 30 pages of hitting things arguement is ridiculous anyway. What we've got is an audience full of sensory avoiding males who have retreated behind computer screens and comic books and now are even retreating within their imaginations. A paradigm has shifted, true. We're all men born under Feminism, many of us raised by women. Tarantino is a good point. A guy raised by a single mother so look how talky his tough guy films were...interestingly up until the KILL BILL movies with the female protagonist, who was more of a guy than we often see. For me, comic books don't get deeper or more meaningful than this:"You! Beings! We are the X-Men from the planet Earth! We've come for the woman Lilandra and the man Erik the Red." "I am Gladiator of the Imperial Guard. The princess you seek is a traitor. We will not give her up." "Then, we'll take her!" That, folks, is Scott "Cyclops the Wimp" Summers, btw. That's how ya get things done! You crash your hovercraft and chase that alien motherfucker straight through that stargate to the Plains of Leng or wherever the fuck across the universe and when you find an army of super beings squared off against yer seven mutants, you fire the first optic blast, yer the cool leader, Wolverine's the tough guy, Storm's the smart guy and Jean's the quiet religious guy who goes nuts. And no, these aren't Bendis' Avengers. He didn't create a single one of them. There's Bendis' Powers and Bendis' Jessica Jones, but these are Marvel's characters that he's writing on a for hire basis. More importantly, this is Heroic Fiction. These are bigger than life characters with superhuman powers and if that is not taken into consideration, then you have a motionless story about people who dress funny and call themselves funny names, which Millar and Hitch nailed beautifully with the Ultimate Defenders in THE ULTIMATES. I DO want fights. I DO want explosions! I DO want chases! It's like, do ya do ya do ya want a STAR WARS with a crawl like : "The Yoda-Smoot Tariff Act Of Dantooine is being debated in a special caucus of the Imperial Senate. A fillabuster has broken loose after a protracted debate between Senator Jabba (R) and Senator Wicket (D), with accusations that the Imperial Walkers are in the back pockets of Clone lobbyists. An investigative committee has been set up, with disqualifications of the Gundark representative..." or do you want "Rebel spaceships striking from hidden bases have won their first victory over the evil Galatic Empire"?
The problem here is by El Vale	Mar 30th, 2006 05:58:34 PM
These aren't Bendis' characters obviously and they're not even Marvel's characters. They're your characters. That bastard Bendis...how could he do that to me?
Laugh out loud, Buzz. That sums it up. by The Heathen	Mar 30th, 2006 06:06:42 PM
I'll take "Rebel spaceships striking from hidden bases have won their first victory" all day long!!!
What Does That Even Mean,El? by Buzz Maverik	Mar 30th, 2006 06:14:45 PM
If Bendis were to get a job writing SCOOBY DOO cartoons and suddenly Scooby and Shaggy are sitting around the Mystery Machine during the whole thing and not being meddling kids and busting that obvious guy in the monster suit or eating heaps of crap, and I point out that they may look like Scooby and Shaggy but they aren't behaving that way, does that make them my characters. If Jessica Jones is suddenly well adjusted and racist and I point out that she's a neurotic in love with a Black guy, does that make her my character?
Figures that Givers a troll... by Firedrake	Mar 30th, 2006 06:15:01 PM
as I don't see anyone with their heads that far up their own rectum that they'd really like Disembled as being able to type. I am surprised that he takes the time out of his busy day of small rodent molesting to come here to stir up shit though. Oh well, back to comic talk, I managed to force myself into buying Supreme, even though I was worried about it being neutered by the transition from being a MAX book. It was a bit on the weak side in my taste. I don't think I'll be getting this one regularly unless they switch it back. I just can;t see it having the same punch.
I wish it would go back for the same reasons, Firedrake by The Heathen	Mar 30th, 2006 06:28:17 PM
I'm still waiting to read the no-Max Supreme Power, because Hyperion #5 hasn't arrived yet. But I have the same reservations about it being tamed down and not as raw. Issue 18 probably had my favorite scene/moment of last year (a late @$$ie if you will). When mark flies up into space and then nose dives into earth causing a massive earthquake with an impact that leaves a mushroom cloud visible from the moon and he's just standing in the crater with his uniform in rags and all you can think is how this guy really is supremely powerful. Bad ass. I'll miss Franks nicely rendered boob's too. What?
mediums, Bendis by John Dalmas	Mar 30th, 2006 06:45:57 PM
You know the crucial difference between TV and comics, or movies and comics, where Bendis is concerned? It's not about attention spans or three-year-olds or any other snarky language. The difference is ACTORS. One medium has actors, the other has drawings. Buzz is very right about the importance of medium. Prose, narrative poetry, serialized TV, movies, comics. Each is a different storytelling medium, with its own strengths and limitations. The best writers in each play on the medium's strengths to tell a story uniquely suited to that medium. Part of using those strengths means acknowledging each medium's weaknesses. Bendis writes for television, and not even very originally.
Well said Buzz, well said.... by Psynapse	Mar 30th, 2006 06:47:17 PM
Seriously dude, that was THE proverbial nail on the head. I formally bow to you...Hey! Gimme back my wallet!
Nope, Jones is still Bendis' character by El Vale	Mar 30th, 2006 06:50:36 PM
Bad example.
yeah... by John Dalmas	Mar 30th, 2006 06:54:23 PM
I did say that last week, but I was also drunk and acted like a bit of an asshole on my first post. So take my admonitions with a few grains of salt.
Good point about Bendis and mediums, John D. by The Heathen	Mar 30th, 2006 07:07:28 PM
It's not as apparent on sometihng like Alias, but when you have issue after issue with nothing happening storywise in New Avengers, then the formula needs a change or the writer nees a new medium. I know his 3 act method he follows has been discussed before, but I thnk it should be mentioned again for the fact that in every 6 issue arc of his, he has about 3 or 4 pointless issues. I thought/think that editorial should only give him 3 issue arcs for New Avengers
http://tinyurl.com/f396j by The Heathen	Mar 30th, 2006 07:24:54 PM

Bendisaykin by John Dalmas	Mar 30th, 2006 07:32:48 PM
I think that's right, Heathen. People have talked about BMB's three-act, Robert McGee/Syd Field structure, but it doesn't make it any less true. I mean, if there's anything that Eisner, Kirby, et al. accomplished, it was showing that comics is it's own medium, not some pallid approximation of cinema or television; it has its own rules, its own strengths and weaknesses. A writer mimicking those mediums in comics doesn't just miss the boat, they're almost degrading everything the comic-book form has done to establish itself as legitimate in its own right. Seeing the same drawing of Dr. Strange for three panels with Bendis's word balloons just isn't good comics to me. Now, if I saw an actor as Dr. Strange saying Bendis's words in a TV show, that'd be a different story. But that's not the case. In fact, 'Avengers' the TV show, written by Bendis, is something I'd watch. ...Now I'd like to suggest the conversation turn to a panel discussion of Howard Chaykin's most subversively misogynistic moments. I vote for The Shadow #3, where the Shadow hypnotizes Harry Vincent's daughter into having sex with him. You just don't get stuff like that any more.
buzz's screed by John Dalmas	Mar 30th, 2006 07:41:42 PM
I went back and read the whole thing. Exacta-fucking-mundo. Put that in the Comics Journal or something. Or at least send it to the Powers letters page.
Too true, John by The Heathen	Mar 30th, 2006 07:42:13 PM
I'd watch Avengers on TV written by Bendis, unless Wolverine screamed the rape thing. I don't think I can get past that! Hmm
or by John Dalmas	Mar 30th, 2006 07:51:45 PM
How about his 'Blackhawk' limited series, where the Errol Flynn character forces his subordinate to give him a blow-job? Man. What a rascal.
Hey Buzz by El Vale	Mar 30th, 2006 09:06:51 PM
What's your favorite comic that doesn't have any action and all that?
chaykin and the talking cat by steverodgers	Mar 30th, 2006 09:08:39 PM
i always really liked the talking cat in american flagg - was it Raul? Hilarious. i think that was why i was completely flummoxed when i read black kiss - i was like where is the funny robot, and the cat with hands? Wait these aren
also.. by steverodgers	Mar 30th, 2006 09:19:42 PM
heathen/shigeru thanks for the welcome posts. buzz that was a great rant on bendis. avengers disassembled was a nightmare from start to finish and liefield-esque in its total ineptitude. new avengers, although not as bad, is far from good and just extremely frustrating to read as someone who cares about the characters. I also still refuse to buy that spider-man would be on the team in the first place. The hell!
Another question by El Vale	Mar 30th, 2006 09:26:27 PM
Under which conditions is a creator's comic book work (Bendis) deemed written for (or at least intended for) television?
seriously by Darth Kal-El	Mar 30th, 2006 09:45:52 PM
i love this fucking board!
Luke by Tall_Boy	Mar 30th, 2006 09:52:56 PM
We need a petition to change his name to that.
Doin' Da Butt... by John Dalmas	Mar 30th, 2006 10:06:35 PM
...and that brings it back to Chaykin.
Buzz, man, you are my hero AGAIN... by superhero	Mar 30th, 2006 10:25:10 PM
Jesus, Beesus! What is this? Three weeks in a row that you've been my hero? You said it brother. You are the MAN. ESPECIALLY after how pissed off I was at Bendis this week. At least until you get pissed at me again for whatever crazy thing I say that pisses you off again...:O) ;O)
Favorite comic without action and all that by John Dalmas	Mar 30th, 2006 10:44:14 PM
'From Hell.'
I so knew it was hiim by Homer Sexual	Mar 30th, 2006 10:45:16 PM
But he's not as bad as before. I know he's the guy who called me an A$$hole-kisser. Hey!
Three Quick Bitches by Marco_Xavier	Mar 30th, 2006 11:55:39 PM
1) The alarm bells went off when Sleazy G referred to Blue Beetle's old team as the "JLA," and I knew I was dealing with a greenhorn when he criticized Guy Gardner. Dude, Guy Gardner, unlike Lobo, was Giffen's sucessful parody of "tough guys" as the simplistic assholes they tend be in real life. Guy Gardner should never be seen as "bad ass." Now go read "JLI." 2) I don't mind the killing of Foggy Nelson, because I've read the book off and on since Denny O'Neil's run, and I still never cared about him. I'm still pissed about Karen Page though. Anyway, I just wanted to say "Winter Soldier" was a shit idea, and plagued by all the problems Ambush Bug would complain about in his anti-Bendis rants. I dropped the book, and I love Captain America. I expect to grab the trade for those Crossbones & Sin issues, though. 3) Ambush Bug remains one of my favorite reviewers, but I've never once agreed with one of his "Casting Calls". Matthew Broderick? The fuck?!? Better than average edition of the column, despite my complaints. Keep up the good work.
"For me, comic books don't get deeper or more meaningf" by rev_skarekroe	Mar 31st, 2006 08:26:04 AM
I do hope you're just referring to superhero comics there, Buzz.
New Avengers & Robin by vagrant's choice	Mar 31st, 2006 08:26:08 AM
Bug, I agree with your review 100%. I still liked the issue though. I don
Next wave review :Psynapse by donopolis68	Mar 31st, 2006 08:39:12 AM
I stand by my comment's re: this non-review. I enjoy reading the opinions of other fans. I have even enjoyed your posts quite a bit. This non-review however told me nothing about the comic. art(kicks ass!) story (kicks ass! so hard) would like to hear what it was that made this book such an enjoyable read. You and I both know that although it may have been amusing it was not a review in any sense of the word. I don't see why I should be attacked for voicing my opinion. Cheers, D-
SeeThruThis, ect... by Shigeru	Mar 31st, 2006 08:56:43 AM
Hey I knew it sounded a bit familiar...heh. ANYWAYS. * Vale: what do you think about what Buzz said about Scooby Doo? I think it's pretty accurate. I don't think characters should be written the same way forever, but if they've lasted this long it's probably for a reason. The core foundation of something like say Spider-Man is so fuggin strong that it allows decades of stories all in that sandbox of a character. * Just picked up the BANANA SUNDAY trade, it's awesome, HIGHLY RECOMMENDED from the bearded one (me, not Alan Moore). *** Quick query to my fellow TBer's: how much would you pay for a nice big poster of that page in AS Supes of Superman and Lois kissing on the Moon? God that was beautiful.
Blue Beetle #1 by vagrant's choice	Mar 31st, 2006 09:50:41 AM
Chuck Dixon gave Ted Kord a nice everyman appeal during his run on BoP. I had no plans to read a Ted Kord-less BB series but tried issue 1 anyway. I
oh one must clap for buzz... by blackthought	Mar 31st, 2006 10:51:21 AM
and now i'm caught up on what i've missed...good stuff as usual...oh bendis...i'm with heathen on the hom sentiments...which in my opinion was lame...unless you work for ign comics where every marvel book is a must read.
Guy Gardner's suit is stupid? by Daredevil	Mar 31st, 2006 12:08:30 PM
Aside from the moonboots (which he hasn't worn since the 80s), I think his suit is pretty cool. And he stopped having the bowl-cut about the same time. It's certainly better than anything Kyle Rayner's ever worn. This isn't a dig at the character, just a matter of terrible costume design. Even his first costume which had an AWESOME bodysuit was hampered by the ugliest mask in comics and dorky, bulky fingerless gauntlets. Although, personally I would change Guy's suit if I were drawing him (scratch that, WHEN I draw him...I will be one of these days), I'd have him wear a t-shirt and jeans even as a GL. Imagine a black t-shirt with the red Warrior's symbol over the left breast, then when he powers up it morphs into a green diamond-shaped "G" (like the way the G's were on the Guy Gardner logo way back when). Simple, yet still with the black & green style of the Green Lantern Corps, and the personalized G would be in keeping with Guy's arrogance that he's the best GL. And if he needs a lantern logo, I could see Guy putting one on his belt buckle :) That would be something he might do.
Marco Xavier, I highly disagree by Daredevil	Mar 31st, 2006 12:20:04 PM
Read Beau Smith's take on Guy Gardner in his self-titled series. Guy was great in that. Beau's about the only person that really got Guy Gardner. I take anything Giffen writes with a grain of salt because every character is an extreme parody of himself, and thus are written out of character to an extent. Don't get me wrong, I love the Giffen JLA, but pretty much everyone is a characature and do things they really wouldn't in the rest of the DC universe, from Blue Beetle to Batman. It's the same with his recent Defenders miniseries, where the philosophical Silver Surfer does NOTHING but philosophize, Namor's usual formal way of talking sounds like a King James Bible, and Dr. Strange is a parody of himself. Are those the REAL characters, is that how they should always be portrayed? No way. Neither should Guy. Guy's closer to an arrogant John Wayne or Bruce Willis action hero than anything. Tough, manly, but a bit stuck on himself and a little too boorish with the ladies sometimes.
Re: SeeThruThis, ect... by El Vale	Mar 31st, 2006 12:52:01 PM
Man i really didn't want to get involved in this, but what the hell, here it goes: Dude, I don't hate New Avengers and i don't hate Bendis...in fact i LOVE Bendis and i've discussed him and defended him many many times here in the talkbacks and i've never been deleted or banned...why? Because i know how to talk to people. This board doesn't operate on hive mentality mode and you can find disagreements even between people who are very friendly towards eachother, but since we're all grown ups here we know we can discuss and debate without resorting to hateful rants and jabs and insults. If you don't like it here you can leave, i wouldn't want to hang out in a place i hate.
Shig shig Shigella by El Vale	Mar 31st, 2006 01:17:03 PM
Well, i don't think Buzz ever actually contradicted me, in fact i think maybe i didn't make my views clear enough. Buzz makes a good point about Scooby Doo (even if it did throw me off a bit because i hate Scooby Doo so much), and it's pretty much the same point i was trying to make, which is...these characters are yours, and by yours i mean everyone's, they've become part of a larger consciousness because they've been through so many incarnations, iterations, creative teams, storylines etc over the years, they've ceased to be the intellectual property of a single person or company. In turn, it's been pretty much mapped out who the character is and how the character should behave, i would imagine, based on what's worked and what hasn't in the past. So yeah, going back to Scooby Doo, Buzz doesn't make the point that they're being written out of character, rather, they're being placed into a situation that doesn't fit the context in which they were introduced initially. In this case we have to ask ourselves...what's wrong with that? And what IS the core foundation of something like Avengers? Spider-Man? It could be distilled down to "With great power comes great responsibility", but that doesn't really encompass everything that Spider-Man is. Placing the Avengers in a context unlike the old familiar one has been done and has worked (Ultimates) but i'm pretty sure it hasn't worked for everyone and the same thing has happened with New Avengers. Pretty much everyone here at AICN Comics hates or dislikes New Avengers to some degree, but you'll find places where people actually really enjoy the book and you'll probably be as surprised as i was to find out the book wasn't universally disliked by every single person in the known universe. Now, under these conditions, and based on what i've read here so many times, Bendis is betraying what the Avengers are at their core by having them be pussies who stand around and get pulled out of trouble by lesser characters, and it's ok to dislike that and i think that's where Dave's coming from when he mentions Bendis' Avengers book should be nothing but the down time. That way you're placing the characters in a different context than what you're used to, but it works and it doesn't betray what you know and gives you something you haven't seen before. And that, i believe, is completely valid. And fear not, your Avengers will return to greatness (your kind of greatness) eventually, that's how it is with these things.
That Nextwave Review.... by Psynapse	Mar 31st, 2006 02:05:01 PM
Was so badass that Chuck Norris had to read it. Then he got Mr. T to read it. Then they both told donopolis68 to stop being such a pussy.
That chuck norris stuff by Shigeru	Mar 31st, 2006 02:12:50 PM
was funny at first but now it's kinda crap. especially cause everybody just deleted chuck norris and typed jack bauer and then laughed at it again. it's kinda like the thousandth time you've heard someone quote napoleon dynamite.
Nice to come back and see these discussions by The Heathen	Mar 31st, 2006 02:13:50 PM
Shig, I haven't read AS Supes #3 yet! Like an idiot, I was trying to wait for it along with Walking Dead, Green Lantern and Invincible. *** Btw, need a good example of meaningful, story driven dialogue with (wait for it)
Wait! by El Vale	Mar 31st, 2006 02:26:06 PM
Mitch Hurwitz left arrested?! What? Please explain.
Vale, El, Valey, Valerie. by Shigeru	Mar 31st, 2006 02:27:39 PM
Avengers is kinda a bad example, cause I don't really know the core foundation of them. Earth's greatest heroes banded together to face threats too big for any one of them on their own? That sounds about right. Anyways, lets go with Scooby effing Doo (who I too hated, hate, and will probably never like). Yeah Scooby and the Gang have been through many creators and shows and movies and comics (?) ect ect. I guess you could call those incarnations. But none of those had Shaggy unmasking the crotchety old villain only to beat his head in with a pipe and defacate on the corpse. But you're saying that if somebody wanted to write scooby doing just that for the next 5 years, and that's the only scooby stories we get, that would be fine and dandy? ...Now that I think about it, are you saying that the second, the INSTANT a character is created, it is fair game and one can do anything with it? That character is instantly part of the public conciousness and open to all sorts of interpretation? On one hand I agree with you, I welcome elseworlds and one shots and miniseries that explore unknown territory with characters. On the other hand, this is the ONLY Avengers book out there, and BMB has been writing it this way for a year and a half. There has to be a reason Spidey has had "great power, great responsibility" stories for 40 years, and not "gwen stacy fucks the green goblin" stories for 40 years.
Read ARES 1-3 last night by The Heathen	Mar 31st, 2006 02:31:43 PM
and it's pretty bad ass with the action, one could even call it
Heathen by Shigeru	Mar 31st, 2006 02:35:00 PM
The money shot in AS Supes #3... will take your breath away. I think I literally gasped.
Vale's Development by The Heathen	Mar 31st, 2006 02:36:02 PM
http://tinyurl.com/nvl36 *** Looks like the 4th season on Showtime is unlikely. : (
West Coast Avengers by The Heathen	Mar 31st, 2006 02:43:58 PM
Well, maybe not 'West Coast', but it sounds like there is going to another faction of Avengers possibly one led by Cap and the other by Iron Man. Here's a chance to have some change from Avengers: Downtime, unless Bendis writes that one too. I say let Dan Slott, David Hine, Robert Kirkman or Mark Millar write it. Hypothetically that is. * The money shot sounds awesome Shig. * Ha! Ha! Cogs, Kal-El just messaged me about the 'well trimmed man!' Good times.
Shig by El Vale	Mar 31st, 2006 02:48:09 PM
I think you misinterpreted every single thing i said :P "Anyways, lets go with Scooby effing Doo (who I too hated, hate, and will probably never like). Yeah Scooby and the Gang have been through many creators and shows and movies and comics (?) ect ect. I guess you could call those incarnations. But none of those had Shaggy unmasking the crotchety old villain only to beat his head in with a pipe and defacate on the corpse. But you're saying that if somebody wanted to write scooby doing just that for the next 5 years, and that's the only scooby stories we get, that would be fine and dandy?" No that's not what i'm saying...what i meant was there's a difference between a different context for a character or characters, and writing those characters OUT of character. So instead of having the gang unmask some lame warewolf, they just sit around in the van and talk, and it could be described as what the gang does when they're not unmasking lame warewolves. Is it out of character? In theory, no. Is it different? Yes. "Now that I think about it, are you saying that the second, the INSTANT a character is created, it is fair game and one can do anything with it? That character is instantly part of the public conciousness and open to all sorts of interpretation?" Nope, never. That's why i cited Buzz' Jessica Jones example as a bad one, because Jessica is obviously Bendis' character and has only been around for a couple of years. But Captain America and Spider-Man and Wolverine, those are the characters i'm talking about because they've been around for decades and so they don't belong to anyone, metaphorically speaking. So basically i would pretty much agree with you 100% IF i gave a shit about Scooby Doo or the Avengers.
Getting ready to read some Lost spoilers by El Vale	Mar 31st, 2006 02:50:27 PM
God i'm so weak. This is all your fault you know!
Hurwitz by John Dalmas	Mar 31st, 2006 02:50:58 PM
Yes... Hurwitz walked away from Arrested Development-- AFTER Showtime was going to buy 26 new episodes! Dark, dark, dark news... He said he'd be happy to stick around as a "consultant", but he didn't want to be the showrunner anymore. Showtime said it wasn't interested in the program without Hurwitz running the thing. So... just as Arrested is being brought back to life, it's parent aborts it. You can read about it on Variety's website. I already wept for this once this week.
I love how Shig and Vale are using Scooby Doo by The Heathen	Mar 31st, 2006 02:54:19 PM

Vale, don't spoil it!!! by The Heathen	Mar 31st, 2006 02:58:39 PM
and the Arrested news is like when there was the chance of james Cameron AND Ridley Scott doing a Alien 5 movie together, only to learn that Fox went with Paul 'Wet Shit' Anderson instead. On second thought, maybe it's not quite that bad, but still really, really bad! And seriously Vale
Spoiled! by El Vale	Mar 31st, 2006 03:41:05 PM
I now know about the mysterious map. Sigh, i told you i'm weak! But no more, no more. Haven't downloaded any episodes either, thank christ. And also...WHY MITCH, WHY?! I don't understand. I mean...why?
vale... by blackthought	Mar 31st, 2006 03:55:26 PM
he felt he went as far as he could with the show and well there will be no showtime season...it's over...though he's open to a movie.
Maybe three seasons is enough? by El Vale	Mar 31st, 2006 04:10:19 PM
I still hate the fact that a show like that can't survive in today's market. Sigh. Well, we still have Lost!
maybe three beers is enough... by John Dalmas	Mar 31st, 2006 04:27:39 PM
but four would be better. I'm one of the folks that thinks Lost is a progressive insult to its audience. Sorry; just saying the fact that it's on the air offers no consolation to me.
I Love Bendis' FORTUNE & GLORY. Jessica Good Example.. by Buzz Maverik	Mar 31st, 2006 04:29:15 PM
...this is Bendis' character. What I left out: some new dork starts writing her, makes her a self-assured racist. The key: some other dork writing her. Now, some other dork can write her just fine as long as she's a non-racist neurotic. But guys who dress like devils, flags, wolverines, etc., they tend to DO stuff. I used to hope, for example, that someone would do a version of DAREDEVIL (which both Bendis and Miller touched on in their own ways) in which it'd be Matt, Foggy, Urich, the Kingpin, their various women, etc., except that Daredevil would appear for the adventure ('cause for too many years we had Marvel heroes sort of wandering around aimless "up there" until they stumbled across something to act on). Finally: "Rel? Rhy ro rou rate Rooby Roo?"
How does Lost insult me John? by El Vale	Mar 31st, 2006 04:39:43 PM

I have ALWAYS fucking HATED Scooby Doo!! by Psynapse	Mar 31st, 2006 04:48:53 PM
It was ALWAYS some crusty fuck in a rubber mask. My sister who was 2 years older and WAY meaner liked it and she'd beat my ass if I tried to change the goddamn channel. FUCK YOU SCOOBY DOO!
TBer Daredevil & Guy Gardner by Marco_Xavier	Mar 31st, 2006 05:21:44 PM
DD, I've been a Guy Gardner fan since JLI, which means I knows me history. He started out as a forgettable namby-pamby back in the 70's, but since that was the only time he was ever in full command of his mental facilties, it's the closest to the "real" Guy Gardner we can get. However, nobody gave a crap about that Guy, so we'll move on to his resurrection as a renegade GL during Steve Englehart's run on "Green Lantern." That Guy was pretty nearly a villain, and unquestionably a dangerous sociopath. Giffen & DeMatteis actually softened Guy a bit, making him a jingoistic poster boy for the Reagan republican and all around obnoxious ass. This remains the most popular take on the character. Gerard Jones undermined this take by playing up Guy's mental defects and other inadequacies in the "GL" series, and the GG mini & ongoing series that followed. While I hated seeing the softer side of Guy, Jones mostly stuck with a one-note variation on the Giffen schtick, which was almost as tiresome as that Lobo ongoing that somehow ran forever. Chuck Dixon's handling was still consistent (with DeMatteis anyway) while adding more depth to the character, which led to Beau Smith's run. I was a big fan of his more remorseful and level-headed Guy, who still couldn't catch a break with his fellow heroes, at least initially. Over time though, and not a little provoked by the departure of the much missed Mitch Byrd on art chores, I began to realize Smith's take was really just Ben Grimm: The Ultimate Warrior. What was once an entirely unique super-hero. especially for the DCU, had been co-opted into a cuddly, likeable, slightly brutish nice Guy. Fans and creators alike rightly blew that version off, and we're now seeing a slightly more redeemable variation on the Giffen/DeMatteis approach, including the return of his deservedly iconic (Staton? Chaykin? Perez?) Crisis-era uniform. I think all characters should be allowed to evolve, and Guy has, but not to the point of losing the qualities that made them popular or unique in an increasingly homogenized comic book universe. At his best, he's more a cross between Jack Burton & Ford Fairlane than John McClane & the Duke, and I like him best that way.
well... by John Dalmas	Mar 31st, 2006 06:00:28 PM
Allright, only since you asked, but I have no desire to get into another debate about the merits of 'Lost.' I think it's stupid television. If you don't, by all means enjoy. In my opinion, the way a large part of the show's expositional flashbacks often have little or no bearing on the present-day story and the way many of those scenes are used as nothing more than padding to stall out any development or progression in the present-day story is a cheap device. I think the characters are often ridiculously unrealistic in their behavior, and their personalities are essentially one-dimensional. I think the way so little of actual consequence happens on the show and the way the creators have to cling to the central mystery as the only motivating force for people to tune in is a poor way to tell a story. I think constantly baiting viewers with an endless stream of red herrings is ridiculous. Particularly after watching this season's Battlestar Galactica, Lost just seems really flacid and pale, lacking any real drama or recognizably human characters. I've got some friends who dropped the show this season, and the ones who didn't sound increasingly like abused housewives defending their attackers:'he's not really so bad,' 'he doesn't mean to hurt me,' 'he really loves me,' 'you don't know him the way I do.' If you enjoy the show, fine, enjoy it. I was only saying I receive no consolation knowing its on the air. Notice I don't go on the 'Lost' boards and try to attack the program, I'm only giving up my opinion since you asked.
no more arrested? by Darth Kal-El	Mar 31st, 2006 06:03:35 PM
sad news for sure! im still trying to find a decent torrent of season 3 to catch up but from what i heard its pretty funny. vale, even though u read the spoilers i think its still going to be worthwhile to see the eps beacuase so much goes on. i agree with john dalmas that lost is a continious insult to the audience because i dont feel there is a set ending thats plotted out. i thinhk were being mind fucked.but i guess im the chump because i race home from work every wednesday to be insulted. depending on how season 2 ends i might be around for 3.im almost for sure i wont be around if they go to 4.
heathen i read your post by Darth Kal-El	Mar 31st, 2006 06:05:37 PM
yes trimming! good times for sure!
flashbacks... by blackthought	Mar 31st, 2006 06:23:17 PM
to the cog trimming email-a-thon.
Good times by The Heathen	Mar 31st, 2006 06:23:59 PM
more like
I see your point, Dalmas, but disagree. by SleazyG.	Mar 31st, 2006 07:00:03 PM
I don't think the flashbacks are padding at all. I definitely take issue with the idea that they have no bearing on the main story of the survivors on the island. The flashbacks are there, in fact, to stop the characters from being one-dimensional: they help explain why the characters respond the way they do to specific events. Everybody is a product of their experiences to a certain extent, and the flashbacks are used to show us those experiences, thereby further illuminating the behavior of the characters. Beyond all of that, though, there's the fact that we're starting to see the different ways these characters were already connected before they ever boarded that plane. I have no doubt we'll be seeing more and more of that, and it will end up being directly tied to the plight of the survivors. The flashbacks therefore serve at least two obvious, up-front purposes without which I think the show would be much weaker.
last thing about lost by John Dalmas	Mar 31st, 2006 07:46:55 PM
I said many of the flashbacks are padding, not all. I don't think think the flashbacks necessarily add dimensions to the characters; by providing a very simple motivational equation (something happened in the past which explains why someone does something in the present) it actually makes the characters much simpler, effectively categorizing them. Human motivation rarely seems so simple to me. But even excepting that, what is the show then, an endless explication of very simple motivations? And... allright; I have to stop here, because I don't want to argue about the show, and there's other boards for that type of thing. I'm sure lots of people disagree with me; that's why they'll keep watching Lost. Enjoy, have fun. I think it's bad; you think it's good. Fair enough.
great times indeed my friend! by Darth Kal-El	Mar 31st, 2006 08:19:03 PM
im loving how hes heading off to eat after flashing back to the trimming. bon apetit mon ami!im still aggreeing with dalmas in that yes some of the flashback add depth to the characters while others just kind of seem to slow things down. prettty much all the sun and jin ones this season have seemed pretty worthless to me. its funny because i agree with a lot of what dalmas is saying but i still love the show. i just think i wont love it as much if it keeps dragging on for years on end. the novelty will have worn off
long live remmigans by Darth Kal-El	Apr 1st, 2006 06:14:15 AM
even tho i never had u,i miss u pup.watch over heath, and vale, and psynapse, and katie, and shigeru,and blacktought and kal
and gus by Darth Kal-El	Apr 1st, 2006 06:15:09 AM

john dalmas by Darth Kal-El	Apr 1st, 2006 06:31:32 AM
relax a litle bit-your amongst friends(or at least like minded people). regardless of what Truth says what, this is not a biased sandbox. im only sayin, with the utmost respect, that were not going to gang up on a person being geniunely interested in some discussion about comics,movies,TV,whatevadafuge va.no need to be defensive
DKE by John Dalmas	Apr 1st, 2006 12:34:57 PM
Ok-- Thanks. You're right. That's why this is one of the best boards on the site. I just get wary criticizing the show because so many Lost fans are just so damn rabidly scary. But you're right; people don't usually behave like that over here. Thank Christ.
So... by Thalya	Apr 1st, 2006 01:40:29 PM
Anyone think with the new Flash series that the operative word in the title is Flash: the Fastest Man ALIVE? hmm..
thayla lives by blackthought	Apr 1st, 2006 02:28:03 PM

thalya! by Darth Kal-El	Apr 1st, 2006 04:21:22 PM
im glad to see u on girl! whats shaking? isnt it supposed to be some other flash?im not up to date im sorry.and dalmas yes this is one of the best boards on the site and yes lost fans are some rabid wankers at times.actually ive noticed that anyone that obsesses over anything be it movies tv comics u name it has a tendency to be rabid on this site."fuck you you dont like LOTR" "no fuck you you dont like star wars". man im an all purpose geek i can be into anything.but i digress.yes were awesome
darth.. by blackthought	Apr 1st, 2006 07:17:51 PM
you forgot the bendii..."fuck you, you don't like bendis"..."he's the greatest writer ever, the only comic book is a bendis book"...now i go drown myself...
Hulk killing people by kuryakin	Apr 1st, 2006 07:29:54 PM
26 of them, including 2 kids and a doggy or some shit. What the fuck? So is that now canon? Because a while back in one of Marvel's few truly interesting titles (She-Hulk) it was all "Nah - not Brucey. He would kill himself before killing poor wee innocent peoples" Now he fucking well has killed people and Tony Stark is sending him off to space. It's so fucking insulting. And boring. The same shit you hear at DC every once in a while - "Why doesn't Batman just kill the Joker????" But then again I try and roll with these pissy punches. As shite as they are, Spider-man and Hulk and Iron Man have had to go through some truly pathetic shit over the years and they are still here. This crap will blow over in a while and then we'll have some other shit to complain about. Guaranteed within ten years at least 30% of superheroes will have switched gender...
Hey guys! by Thalya	Apr 2nd, 2006 12:11:30 AM
Gah.. The problem with trying to seize life by the horns is it often seizes you back, throws you down, rocks your world and doesn't let up for awhile. I'll have to send an e-mail with my big development because I'd be totally embarrased to mention it here. *** On comics: on the Flash in particular, it's still a mystery, though they say "don't get too attached to the first one you see" (which, according to previews is Jay Garrick - and if anyone saw it, since when was he a metahuman?). I'm thinking this might actually be Barry Allen, the man literally running against his fate in dying in the original Crisis. Just before that Crisis he went into the future I think, so who knows when and for how long? This has been some TB, too bad I only read it after Giverof got banned. (always fun to see Psy getting his ass-kicking mode on, though :) Specific books: Superman/Action: wow. I have never loved or really 'gotten' Supes, and I'm loving every inch of this. And I'm pretty sure that a year ago, I wouldn't've stomached the idea of a new Blue Beetle book not starring Ted Kord. Giffen's really being smart though, starting out with all the heroes extremely disliking Jaime so he'll have to earn everything; though I'm liking him right off the bat, he's enough of a departure from Ted that Ted will easily keep his idiosyncrasies.
Hulk Can Kill But He'd Better Not Light A Marlboro. by Buzz Maverik	Apr 2nd, 2006 12:41:57 AM
Hi, I'm Joe Quesada. Here at Marvel Comics, we value realism and hard edged stories which is why we have the Hulk killing all over the place...except with second hand smoke. Remember: murderer, yes, smoker, no!
Mon ami's!!! by The Heathen	Apr 2nd, 2006 12:12:40 PM
Kal-El, I was heading off to eat some tube steak too! Nah, just kidding
Daredevil by arri18k	Apr 2nd, 2006 12:20:10 PM
New to this post but ive just read the Daredevil review. I find it strange that Bug is not reviewing it and i also find it stranger that in an arc that Brubaker is writing in the same style as Bendis and Lark is drawing in the same style as Maleev that the anti Bendis brigade is suddenly loving Daredevil. Doesnt anybody else find this strange? I think is says an awful lot about these so called 'reviewers'. You should all bow your biased heads in shame.
About Guy Gardner and the other green guy by The Heathen	Apr 2nd, 2006 12:22:04 PM
I didn't know too much about Guy until a couple a years ago, but now someone who didn't make the best first impression is a pretty fun character. I like 'em. Btw, in the GL Corps: Rechargre mini, he was named Green Lantern #1 of the Honor Guard or something. I thought that was pretty cool. Nice mini series too. *** Buzz, exactly. "We can have Hulk killing women and children and puppies, but second hand smoke is EVIL!!!" I just recently read She-Hulk #4 where she knows that Bruce hasn't killed anyone because he would end his life. And this is where Marvel needs to shape up. The House of ideas is built on sand
Some Infinite Crisis stuff.. by Thalya	Apr 2nd, 2006 12:39:13 PM
For Heathen, my one word IC #5 review: ZAURIEL!!!! (and Jimenez doesn't mangle his costume like so many other artists!) Some notes on the series in general: it doesn't seem like there's enough slam-bang happenings going on. Just from what I remember of the original Crisis, things were more all over the place and more twisty (In this issue the heroes defend Monitor's towers! In this issue they fight the anti-Monitor in space and Supergirl dies!). Maybe it's because plot strands bleed issue to issue and instead of a concrete resolution in each we just get more development. That, and E-2 Superman going on and on about the corruption of the world just gets really redundant after a few issues (albeit the DBZ-like Supes vs Supes fight on Earth 2 is just sweet - and not long enough!). And for that matter, mere appearances by Diana Prince and the like which set up the new series don't have the impact as things-actually-happening. This is a miniseries - try not to have it as an informercial solely for OYL and 52 (regardless that I think the Diana Prince direction is precisely what WW needs). And another thing, referring to the IC Secret Files: did anyone get the impression that Identity Crisis/Batman being mindwiped actually came about as the result of one of Superboy Prime's punches creating the continuity wave? So that means Superboy Prime was reacting to the darkness which he helped create. Nice villain..
Hrmm by The Heathen	Apr 2nd, 2006 12:56:00 PM
Haven't read IC Secret Files yet, but it's on the pile. Just got my shipment of comics with a bunch of the OYL issues including Supes, BoP, Aquaman, Robin, Nightwing, Catwoman and JSA. I got to catch up quick. Thalya, I get what you mean about the differences, you're right to a degree, but I guess my main drawback has been the length of the series. Will it be long enough? Hope so, but COIE was MAXI to the max, you know? I am glad that Superboy Prime is wearing the Anti Monitors duds and the return of possibly Barry Allen is cool too. When it comes down to it, I guess that I'm thrilled with the way it's revving up, but it's already supposed to be in 5th gear and it feels like we're already slowing down. Also, does anyone think that having OYL (which I like the idea of) happen during IC kind of takes away a lot of the suspense in these last two IC issues? We know the main three are going to dissappear, Robins still Robin, same for Nightwing, etc. I guess we're still unsure of Flash and stuff, and Conner is totally going to die isn't he?
I think Johns said.. by Thalya	Apr 2nd, 2006 01:12:28 PM
Issues 6 and 7 would all of a sudden get fast and furious, but it seems like that would make things extremely unbalanced. And yeah, poor Connor. That must be why they delayed Teen Titans #34, so it wouldn't reveal the news ahead of time? Though there is a panel in Action that suggests this is indeed so. sniff But I guess they must be paring down the Big Three back to basics, and that means possibly getting rid of the Superman imitators (from Death of Superman) OYL; so no Connor, Cyborg, or Steel? Maybe the reason for starting OYL early is so people aren't discouraged from buying if some of their faves kick it. I forget, which Flash has which belt? Is Barry the symmetrical belt and Wally the asymmetrical one, or the other way around?
By Cyborg I mean Cyborg Superman, that is... by Thalya	Apr 2nd, 2006 01:36:38 PM

My thoughts exactly about the delay of TT by The Heathen	Apr 2nd, 2006 01:48:18 PM
Buh-bye Superboy! Cassie too? Or are we going to have her moping around powerless for year or two? I heard that Cyborg (not the Superman one) in TT #34 starts off with him waking up after a year. Cool stuff there. I foget about the Flash belts, but there's been plenty of people that said it was Barry in IC #5. I'd miss the hell out of Wally though now that I think about it. And what's going to happen to Donna Troy?
Well.. by Thalya	Apr 2nd, 2006 01:57:47 PM
Cassie is on the cover of the 3rd OYL TT cover, so.. And something happens in TT #33 which suggests she might get more powerful than ever. I think you're right about Barry in #5, but it looks like he's got 2 different belt designs in that one image. Maybe they have the idea to start fusing their characters so the universe can't fracture? Like, either the old ones die, or some like Barry and Wally merge into one character? (they both had twins, so maybe there's something...) One character with the mantle, best of both worlds?
Just read TT #33 by The Heathen	Apr 2nd, 2006 02:49:30 PM
Guess she could be really powerful huh? Hope that the characters don't merge into one. That would confuse a lot of people rather than simplifying(sp?) these icons. Plus, no matter how many Flashes or Green Lanterns and such, I think that the main 3 or 4 that the fans know are pretty good characters. On the note of Nightwing, it looks like he's being really pro-active with Superboy by heading to the 'big golden tower' but I don't get why it's just the two of them. Sure, I know the titans beeper thing went off to the other busy Titans that are cleaning up Bludhaven, and Batman is with Booster and others, Supes is fighting E2 Supes, etc., but isn't taking out the tower the most important thing to do besides Brother Eye? Way more important than Bludhaven. Save a city, lose a world(s).
i love ic talk by blackthought	Apr 2nd, 2006 03:36:39 PM

I hate ic talk by El Vale	Apr 2nd, 2006 04:48:43 PM

Next week on by The Heathen	Apr 2nd, 2006 04:51:12 PM

The IC -- awesome by AstroThunder	Apr 3rd, 2006 02:06:05 AM
Y'know, Connor and Cassie do sound like OC names. Wonder if DC will make an IC soundtrack with hip indie rock acts on it. Afterwards, I wonder if hipsters will denounce bands that appear on the IC soundtrack in an attempt to look cooler than thou: "Man, Rogue Wave and Death Cab used to be cool." If anything, Peter Gallagher may get his own spin off album or issue of Solo (they'l uncancel it just for him). :P
gods it feels like the tb is back in full swing by Darth Kal-El	Apr 3rd, 2006 05:45:15 AM
just like in the early all week days!just got back from the store and yes that supes and lois thing on the moon is amazing! i also love the big (spoiler) superman is dead written by clark kent thing.im curretnly prety behind on my comics reading so bear with me as i catch up.glad to see thalya back in the IC mode and once again congrats on the thing. heathen just let me know a few weeks in advance and im there!
Barry West? by Shigeru	Apr 3rd, 2006 10:09:58 AM
da fug?
Heathen by Shigeru	Apr 3rd, 2006 10:10:41 AM
You think the boys from Gainesville are going all the way? Not that I even like basketball...
Banana Sunday by Shigeru	Apr 3rd, 2006 10:14:43 AM
The trade for this just came out. Buy it. Go-Go the Gorilla wins every single @$$ie EVER. Past, present and future. Best miniseries? Go-Go the Gorilla. Best penciller? Go-Go the Gorilla. Nobel Peace Prize? Go-Go the Gorilla.
i love zee hoops by blackthought	Apr 3rd, 2006 02:33:45 PM
and for some knawing reason i think ucla's lock down defense will shut down the gators tonight...then again i pretty much hate florida and florida state!...all the product of living in miami when younger being honed to be a hurricane...and yuo know what...its opening day...i fuggin' love beisbol (that's like...um...spanish!) and on a "happier" note...school starts again...ugh...
happy monday by Darth Kal-El	Apr 3rd, 2006 06:00:38 PM
is anyone following sopranos?also, just read ultimate spidey and damn if it isnt one of my fave books every month! i have batman/superman and new avengers at the house for later. ill be back with my thoughts later! have a great day
heathen!!! by blackthought	Apr 3rd, 2006 09:07:29 PM
holy shite!!! president logan is like fuggin' lex luthor...or maybe have him wear a hoodie and pass him off as the emporer that evil bastard.
My hometown's victorious! by Shigeru	Apr 4th, 2006 07:23:32 AM
Haha suck it! Go Gators! I bet Gainesville was pretty nuts last night...
They tell me that the Gators won? by The Heathen	Apr 4th, 2006 08:11:38 AM
Hell yes they did! But, to be honest I haven't watched a full basketball game in nearly a decade. Well, a few years ago on Christmas day I did, but I was forced and bored
hey now by blackthought	Apr 4th, 2006 08:52:19 AM
ucla was lock down d until they met florida...why? only the basketball gods know...IC #6 tomorrow...i think "president" logan makes a cameo in it as the true cause of this crisis...holy crap...i hate the guy more and more...hoping aaron will feed him a brain bullet in the future.
Aaron is the man. by The Heathen	Apr 4th, 2006 09:13:30 AM
And how about Wayne Palmer? Jack & Wayne - Bring the PAIN! Favorite moment was Jack routinely taking out those guy's of Robocop's. 2 to the back, 2 to the front and a good 'ol slice of the jugular on the sniper. Jack Bauer
oh, and The Walking Dead was really good by The Heathen	Apr 4th, 2006 11:24:13 AM
unless you're a stranger.
true by blackthought	Apr 4th, 2006 12:44:54 PM
nothing like zombie pit fighting
Ex Machina Casting by Fantomex	Apr 4th, 2006 02:38:12 PM
I will cede the Malcom Jamal Warner pick. He is a good fit, but I'm not sure he has the acting chops necesary. Still has a lot of Cosby feel that would jive with the character.
...LOST... by blackthought	Apr 5th, 2006 08:54:56 AM

end scene by The Heathen	Apr 5th, 2006 11:28:51 AM

lost tonight by Darth Kal-El	Apr 5th, 2006 12:07:05 PM
cant wait. read the lastest issue of new avengers(i dont even remember what number it is) and i agree with the majority of earlier posts on he subject. with another crossover coming that im not at all interested in i guess i can just thank marvel for saving me some money i can use for trades.
Word. by The Heathen	Apr 5th, 2006 12:35:24 PM
http://tinyurl.com/jvyst ** Notice how almost a quarter of the people don't give a shit? Marvel better cool it's jets after this summer or that number will further decline rapidly.
Amazing Spidey #530 is really bad by The Heathen	Apr 5th, 2006 12:47:24 PM
First off, Tyler Kirkham draws Peter Parker like a teenager in a manga book. There's even a flashback scene where when Peter was bitten and he looks exactly the same as he does presently - a teen boy. That shit drives me nuts. Secondly, Peter calls Tony Stark, "Boss" around 20 times and it just annoyed me every single time. Trust me, around the tenth time it's just grating. I can't believe JMS also writes Supreme Power, which is leaps and bounds better than this. And last, the 'Iron Spidey' costume can dhange form and look like civilian clothes, a symbiote costume, Spidey's original duds, or
im not even going to bother by Darth Kal-El	Apr 5th, 2006 01:52:38 PM
to pick any of the civil war issues up after the crap that was house of m. and now theyre doing another disasembled? ok...why?im disapointed that new avengers and young avengers are going to be included in this, yet another lame ass crossover becuase i really enjoy those books and dont really want to stop reading them while this thing goes on. i guess ill always have ultimate marvel and astonishing xmen.gods i hate sucky event stories!
and by Darth Kal-El	Apr 5th, 2006 02:03:13 PM
that spidey suit is fuggin ugly!
I want to like mainstream Marvel by Shigeru	Apr 5th, 2006 02:24:37 PM
I really do. Because I grew up a Marvel zombie and I miss reading about Iron Man and Captain America and The Avengers. Now I enjoy Ultimate stuff, Astonishing X-Men, Runaways, ect...all stuff that's not really mainstream Marvel U. Millar writing a giant universe spanning event is better than Bendis writing one (cause that type of story just doesn't suit him) so I am thinking about trying Civil War. I am 99% sure I'll be burned, though.
scariest part of that newsarama poll: by Shigeru	Apr 5th, 2006 02:30:36 PM
that some people actually voted for onslaught reborn.
im right there with u shig by Darth Kal-El	Apr 5th, 2006 02:31:05 PM
i grew up completely marvel. my exposure to the distinguished competition was only supes and batman.i want to like the marvel events but after house of m and secret war they just dont get the chance to screw me again. ill wait for the trades and then ill read them at barnes
to be more specific by The Heathen	Apr 5th, 2006 03:10:46 PM
don't let Bendis and more importantly Joey Q. get the chance to screw you again. I'll check out Civil War because of Millar, but superheroes and Bendis don't mix well with me, unless it's a book that stars Jessica and Luke that's NOT called New Avengers. Just unlike New Avengers Annual #1 I suppose. Can't beleive people actually voted for Onslaught. Onslaught, btw is the name for the drug that actually cures Marvel Zombie syndrome. I should know, I took a bunch of the stuff about a decade ago and I'm cured, but I still have these urges to want to like being a zombie again. Strangest thing
Did anyone read those LITG spoilers? by El Vale	Apr 5th, 2006 04:02:28 PM
The ones regarding Millar's Alpha flight? Man them's tasty.
Question about Lost by El Vale	Apr 5th, 2006 04:08:01 PM
Did they ever show how Locke became paralized? I mean was there ever a Locke centric episode that showed his accident or whatever? Cause i think maybe he lost the use of his legs in a car crash but i'm not sure how i know that, and i remember there being 2 Locke centric episodes last season: Walkabout and the one about the kidney...and this season we got the one with Leela. "It's never BEEN easy!". Man is that great line delivery or what? Anyway, yeah...
J H Williams III by El Vale	Apr 5th, 2006 04:16:31 PM
Frank Quitely, Eduardo Risso, Frank Miller, Adam Hughes, Brian Bolland, Bruce Timm, Cameron Stewart. Artists deserving of Solo issues. I hate everything.
vale by Darth Kal-El	Apr 5th, 2006 05:04:51 PM
so far no showing of how locke became paralyzed.i was thinking more along the lines of someone did it to him no so much it was an accident but i dont have any solid proof or anything. in other news when will we get a kate and sun make out under a waterfall episode? after all the red herrings i think were owed that

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