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X-MEN 3 TRAILER IS UP!!

1st by masheen81	Mar 6th, 2006 11:39:18 PM

ok by jimmy_009	Mar 6th, 2006 11:39:53 PM

I liked it to by Bean_	Mar 6th, 2006 11:40:51 PM
But we'll see in May I guess.
The Last Stand is a crappy title by jimmy_009	Mar 6th, 2006 11:41:28 PM

I loved it by spider-ham	Mar 6th, 2006 11:43:01 PM
This trailer is really good. Even the Juggernaut looks right.
One Mutant Cured... by Silverblade11975	Mar 6th, 2006 11:43:01 PM
...Mystique. Dark haired naked chick laying sideways. 2:18 on the trailer clock. Just throwing out a guess. Honoris Causa... Silverblade
What would you suggest, Jimmy? by Bean_	Mar 6th, 2006 11:43:21 PM
I kinda like the title myself.
Outstanding!!! by Vergard	Mar 6th, 2006 11:44:58 PM
The trailer looks very very promising. I don't care what Harry says. I hope it ROCKS!!!
I think it was lacking by monkeymafia	Mar 6th, 2006 11:48:29 PM
I haven't been very critical of this, hoping with blinders on at times, that this will work, that someone will pull it all together. From the looks of the trailer you would think the SF bridge being torn apart is half the length of the movie, how many shots did they have of it? And Storm gives one of the worst lines she's had, and that's saying a lot... Tepid at best...
looks alot better by pate	Mar 6th, 2006 11:48:38 PM
but then again so did the trailer for ultraviolet.
Vergard is a fox plant.... by sounding	Mar 6th, 2006 11:49:56 PM
... is that you tom rothman?
That trailer really sucked...but I hate X-Men anyway by indiephantom	Mar 6th, 2006 11:50:38 PM
Seriously, let comic book movies die already.
I can't wait by athenabodicea	Mar 6th, 2006 11:52:02 PM
I thought the trailer was amazing but I'm still a little worried about Beast. He just doesn't look right to me... :(
Trailer was good. by Thumper2k1	Mar 6th, 2006 11:54:30 PM

kill me by SonnyC79	Mar 6th, 2006 11:55:28 PM
but not before we bone...one last time, wolvie hoooowwwwllllllll
Juggernaut and the Wall by The Only Woj	Mar 6th, 2006 11:55:47 PM
How bad does that look? If you frame-by-frame it you can see the weird transparency on the wall as it breaks. Probably one of many things they'll need to correct in the short time they have from now until release.
Cyclops not around much by Wanab79	Mar 6th, 2006 11:59:52 PM
Didn't see Cyclops any in the action scenes. Didn't an early review say that he dies in this one?
Looks good, but X2 good...not yet! by gobigblue	Mar 7th, 2006 12:01:23 AM
X2 was such a great film, that it seems like a step back. I mean, was there a much better opening than the White Hosue scene from X2 or a btter action scene than the raid on the school. This looks good, but it will be a tall order indeed.
"But I'm the Juggernaut, bitch!" by Spacelab005	Mar 7th, 2006 12:02:33 AM
Love the idea of Juggs running after Kitty Pryde. What the hell is he going to do if he catches her? Everything looks good! Damn!
It looks better than the other two. by I Dunno	Mar 7th, 2006 12:02:43 AM
We've been talking about it for a while in the other thread. I for one think it looks good, coming in with no preconcieved notions. I've heard a lot of people bashing it but no real concrete reasons.
YOU PEOPLE, QUIT BLAMING RATNER!!! by Shermdawg	Mar 7th, 2006 12:04:14 AM
He came in six weeks before shooting. Blame Tom Rothman, he's the real reason this will be fucked up.
Looks similar to the earlier ones by Terry_1978	Mar 7th, 2006 12:04:25 AM
How can you even tell it's different? It has more action, darn. What heterosexual male favors drama over more action anyway?
YES! by Mattchew	Mar 7th, 2006 12:05:03 AM
I FINALLY feel okay about this flick, but all I
I DID NOT like the trailer by slder78	Mar 7th, 2006 12:06:28 AM
When I saw the trailer for the first movie I said, "Sweet!" When I saw the trailer for the second movie I said, "So Sweet!" When I saw this I said, "Shit."
24th by Pronk	Mar 7th, 2006 12:07:17 AM
I rule!
Looks like the same shit.. by acroyear77	Mar 7th, 2006 12:07:43 AM

can anyone tell me what Callisto did with her hands? by catalyst7	Mar 7th, 2006 12:08:29 AM

can anyone tell me what Callisto did with her hands? by catalyst7	Mar 7th, 2006 12:08:37 AM

THIS... by catalyst7	Mar 7th, 2006 12:10:55 AM
could really go either way. it still feels like its in the vain of the previous X-flix, its got too many major character deaths and it feels like we've been over this material in the last two... could be just me...giggity
SWeeT! by WickedMonster	Mar 7th, 2006 12:11:12 AM
I looked at the trailer, frame by frame. Mystique being cured is not COOL! I hope they do make a forth X-Men movie and in that, this continuity is not considered. And the wall transperancy in Juggernaut's scene is actually a piece of the wall flying in between the view and 'Nauts legs. Oh well, curiousity is definately peaked. [Angel flying down the building = So Awe-full!]
that was arclight with the hands by ftmigs	Mar 7th, 2006 12:12:02 AM
she was originally rumored to play stacy x...
wow! what is going on with this flick? by Atomik Steve	Mar 7th, 2006 12:12:51 AM
everything i see about this movie contradicts. horrible photos and behind the scenes news...but really amazing teaser and trailer. what gives? please let this be good.
What the hell is he going to do if he catches her? by The Only Woj	Mar 7th, 2006 12:13:03 AM
"I'm gonna rape ya, bitch. Are ya ready? Are ya ready? Are ya ready? Are ya ready?"
ftmigs,.. by catalyst7	Mar 7th, 2006 12:14:20 AM
i thought i saw a tat on the face... but if its Arclight...giggity
pics by ftmigs	Mar 7th, 2006 12:15:24 AM
a lot of the pics that have looked not so hot were production stills and were unofficial. all of the officially released stuff has been good, except the very first beast pic...
I just don't know... by The Irish Asylum	Mar 7th, 2006 12:16:44 AM
Moriarty's comparison to T3 made alot of sense, but also made me worry a bit more about X3 b/c while T3 had some sweet action, it also lacked the heart that made the first two so damn good. I'm still on the fence for this one. Both of the trailers have looked decent, but at the same time, Mystique losing her powers, Cyclops obviously dying, and Prof X is apparently out of this by the end too, I kinda think they gave away too much.
Come on, that looked good by eg4190	Mar 7th, 2006 12:17:17 AM
Lots of mutants fighting, exactly what was lacking in the first two. A good mutant battle will completely redeem the script's shortcomings.
R.I.P. by Jellylover	Mar 7th, 2006 12:19:16 AM
Prof X...dead. Cyclops...dead. X-men movie franchise...dead. The story has been done already in the last two films. The muties v.s. the humans. If the prof is really dead and stays dead then it is the end of the X films which would blow. Why in the hell would't they go with an Apocalype story or a Day's of Future past and bring in Cable and or Bishop. Those story line were great in the comics and in the 90's cartoon. Why in the hell did'nt they just watch that. Any ep of the cartoon has been way better than than any of the movies. And instead of the humans finding a cure why not erradicate the mutants with oh, I don't know...SENTINELS!?! Fuck whoever wrote this crap. I'm sticking with the drawings with thought bubbles from now on.(until spidey 3)
ftmigs,.. by catalyst7	Mar 7th, 2006 12:19:25 AM
good call, upon further review i stand corrected... so was that tatooed chick Callisto or Psylocke... i still think the Arclight chick was kinda butch,thus perfect for Callisto...giggity
Why would Mystique want to be cured? by I Dunno	Mar 7th, 2006 12:19:48 AM
She has a sweet power and can look normal if she wants. I can see Beast or Rogue wanting to be normal but not her. Anyway, a lot of the people who say it sucks sound kind of childish and aren't really giving reasons. I'm sure the FX aren't completly finished yet and other than that, it looks better than anything the other two put out.
Terminator 3... by Kingdaddy	Mar 7th, 2006 12:20:10 AM
When it was brought up after the trailer link...I couldn't agree more. The whole time I watched the trailer I thought, wow, it looks kinda gritty, but not a hair on the balls of X2... X2 kicked major ass, and this will be X3, made for the sci fi channel...
X-Men 1 & 2 sucked by scrivener	Mar 7th, 2006 12:20:18 AM
And this really just looks like more of the same. I just think you're all finally starting to wake up now.
RIP Kirby Puckett by Boo Urns	Mar 7th, 2006 12:20:20 AM
Sorry for the off comment, but this is breaking the hearts of the entire state of Minnesota
It's just....boring...uncaptivating.. ..and bland. by Mahaloth	Mar 7th, 2006 12:23:12 AM
I want it to be better.
Fuck Yeah!!! Spoilers-ish..... by Hunter-X	Mar 7th, 2006 12:23:36 AM
That looked pretty damn sweet!!! Juggernaut plowing through the wall after Kitty looked awesome. It's still looking like Cyclops is going to die. I was hoping they'd let him kick some asss this time. Shit.
For a Rush Job...it looks pretty Damn Entertaining by perfecto_fan	Mar 7th, 2006 12:25:46 AM
I guess I will be seeing a certain superhero movie sometime in May...There are some people at Fox working major over-time.
catalyst by ftmigs	Mar 7th, 2006 12:25:56 AM
callisto is in the movie. i forget the name of the actress, but she does have a tattoo on her eye where theeyepatch would normally be. Also, I believe psylock does have a small role in this movie. There was a pic a while back
Franchise question for the huge X-Men fans out there by TheSeeker7	Mar 7th, 2006 12:26:17 AM
Ok for arguments sake, let's say that even all you Ratner-haters out there (which yes, includes me btw) actually end up walking away feeling that a good film was made here. Now in that case would you then prefer they follow the concept that a nice, neat trilogy has been made, all 3 being quality films and that told a solid, concise story, let that be what it is in modern film history and then take a real good long break (like maybe 10 years) before they go back and try to follow it up with X-Men 4 and so on? And no this isn't me trying to be a smartass or anything, I'm seriously asking, I'm just curious. ----- oh and while I'm here, I feel I have to gripe that it was a really shitty change to the site to have to make the subject line of your post only be a certain amount of characters long. Or at least not THAT short! I admit that some jackasses in the past have really taken advantage of the freedom in the past and virtually entered their entire post in the subject heading which was lame and stupid, but I think we should be able to make them longer than we currently have them at least.
i thought all the X-Men trailers were pretty mundane by microwavable?	Mar 7th, 2006 12:27:30 AM
. . . and i'm not the biggest fan of the comics, but i went to the movies with an open mind and was entertained. this looks no different - and already seems a million times better than the first teaser led on.
raised hopes from the teaser by JGHG	Mar 7th, 2006 12:28:06 AM
i wasn't all too impressed with the teaser, i thought there could have been more done with it, but I held my hopes up and the trailer was a lot better than i thought it would be. The action looks promising, and i can look past the Juggernaut outfit and weird looking Beast and see that this movie does have potential to be better than what most are expecting. I think that all the movie needs to redeem itself from killing prof. X, and cyclops, is an all out battle between a shitload of evil mutants, and the few X-men standing in their way.
Callisto! by Jellylover	Mar 7th, 2006 12:28:48 AM
Since when in the FUCK did Callisto get powers!!! FUCK!FUCK!FUCK! She ain't a MUTIE! FOR FUCKS SAKE! Arclight has superhuman strength not any kind of projectile powers last I saw. Fuck! Can I atleast get a superhumanly hot actress to play Emma Frost. Throw a brotha a bone.
I LOVE JELLY! by the toad	Mar 7th, 2006 12:29:24 AM
i gotta say, i'm with the jellylover--how SWEET would sentinels be???? i'll tell you--on a scale from 1 to sweet.............yeah, you get the picture....
It's obvious from the funeral shot - Xavier is DEAD!!! by THX5334	Mar 7th, 2006 12:29:52 AM
And that's fucked up. Killing off Patrick Stewart or Ian McKellin (sp?) are the only two actors that really bring "gravita" to this kind of material. You need them in these pieces. Killing Xavier's character definitely sounds like they're ending the franchise. Unless they have a credible way to bring him back if they do a fourth... I personally now blame Tom Rothman for the prequal suckage too. Release Lucas from the Fox dungeons Tom, we know it was you that ruined Star Wars too. You fuck. Eat a dick.
Franchise Answer by The Irish Asylum	Mar 7th, 2006 12:31:14 AM
I was thinking about that earlier. I guess it depends on where the story ends in 3. It all seems like they're trying to wrap everything up, but I've heard different things about them wanting to stop at 3 or still wanting more. Of course, if this makes money, they'll keep going. The idea that I'm getting from this story seems to me like if they really wanted to do this particular story, there should be like 3-5 more movies in between X2 and this.
seeker7 by catalyst7	Mar 7th, 2006 12:31:44 AM
if the other option is a James Bond/Star Trek series, then i'm up for it, even if this one blows... i love the concept and characters, dont read the comics anymore, but i grew up on them... giggity
Lacking is the word by invalid entry	Mar 7th, 2006 12:31:49 AM
I love xmen, but seriously. There is so much lacking from this trailer. The only 2 parts that I liked was seeing Angel take flight, and juggy breaking through the walls chasing what I presume is kitty.
to all the haters by teddanson37	Mar 7th, 2006 12:32:46 AM
i hate you and i love this trailer
They have to kill Professor X by I Dunno	Mar 7th, 2006 12:34:37 AM
He's too powerful. They established that in the first one. So they have to come up with different ways of incapacitating him with every movie. So they just killed him in this one.
bacci40 by catalyst7	Mar 7th, 2006 12:35:44 AM
please tell me that's sarcasm...please... giggity
Sorry guys... by monkey tamer	Mar 7th, 2006 12:35:45 AM
That is was a great trailer! Proof is that a couple of my friends, that have never given anything X-men a second glance, called me up right after they saw the commercial and wanted to know all about the movies. I've been trying to get them to watch the first two for 5 years now. I still say there is a very vocal majority on this site that is determined to HATE this film since Singer left. But it is all good, I've just recruited some people to take their places in line on opening day!
xavier by ftmigs	Mar 7th, 2006 12:35:54 AM
anyone notice his voice get half robotic when he says you have no idea... what is upon us now. weird
ftmigs by catalyst7	Mar 7th, 2006 12:37:51 AM
i think think that was the effect of his telepathy echoing through those government dudes minds
catalyst by ftmigs	Mar 7th, 2006 12:40:36 AM
good call. that would be an awful plot twist if he turned out to be a robot...
Sorry peple by Jellylover	Mar 7th, 2006 12:40:54 AM
For posting so much but this pisses me off. I've been reading Marvel and only Marvel comics for the last 20 years and it amazes me how so many of todays directors don't follow one of the biggest rules in filmmaking. STICK WITH THE SCRIPT! I know over the years in the comics this guy has dided and came back to life through some miricale of magic or science but come the fuck on. X-men minus Prof X = X-factor or the New Mutants or the Teen Titans or Power Puff Girls. He's the heart, soul, and brains. Now unless there setting up and Onslaught storyline then fuck this. Some just put Ryan Renolds or Dane Cook in a Deadpool costume so I won't have to blow my brains out after this shit comes out. Still waiting on that bone.
Shit! by Jellylover	Mar 7th, 2006 12:44:23 AM
Does this mean no Mr. Sinister or Genosha? FUUUUUUUUUCCCCCKKK!!!!
HEY JELLY... by catalyst7	Mar 7th, 2006 12:46:02 AM
interesting deadpool ideas... except Cook is out of shape... giggity
arclight, callisto, and psylocke by ftmigs	Mar 7th, 2006 12:47:05 AM
From left to right. http://www.superherohype.com/n ews/x-mennews.php?id=3786
OK by Jellylover	Mar 7th, 2006 12:48:18 AM
Don't know if my last post went through so I'll do it agian. Does this mean no Mr. Sinister? God please let Ryan Renolds or Dane Cook put on a Deadpool costume someday soon.
Too much wire-fu make Homer go something something. by Psalmolive	Mar 7th, 2006 12:48:30 AM
Harry's right. I get the same feeling I do from this as I did with T3- a sense of "obligated for a third one". Bryan Singer must be rolling in his grave.
sorry by Jellylover	Mar 7th, 2006 12:49:03 AM
it did.
COME ON NERDS!! by Ryb0	Mar 7th, 2006 12:49:32 AM
You freakin' losers over analyze everything. The movie is going to be entertaining. Who gives a flying fack if Xavier dies. Plus why would Magneto still wear the gay helmet if Xavier ain't around to fack with his brain. Come on, you think the guy with mind control is going to die, COOME ON! Long live GOB Bluth!!
what?! by calami-shami	Mar 7th, 2006 12:51:23 AM
now i have to do my bitching in two talkbacks?! Arrrggg, but...I...must...go...on. damn i wish their was a release date for THE FOUNTAIN so at least i have a chance of seeing a GOOD hugh jackman movie this year.
Deadpool by The Irish Asylum	Mar 7th, 2006 12:52:46 AM
He should make a quick cameo in X4 or something and then just have the spinoff, and Ryan Reynolds couldn't be more perfect casting.
QUESTIONS by teddanson37	Mar 7th, 2006 12:53:24 AM
1. why does mags look all hunchback-like in that first shot we see of him? 2. who is the guy supposed to be with the spikes coming out of his face? tell me he's someone i'm forgetting cuz i swear if that's spike (the abomination from the WB cartoon) i'll puke. 3. when callisto says "more powerful than you" i bet she isn't talking about leech. i bet that line is taken from a scene regarding phoenix. 4. did anyone notice mystique's voice is different than it has been in the previous movies? it always sounds like it's got insane reverb on it. maybe they'll fix it later. 5. did you notice the rocks floating around behind wolvie when they find jean on the shore? 6. we don't see cyke's or prof's body. could the phoenix have absorbed them only to release them later? probably not, but here's hoping. 7. since when does stacy x have powers like that? 8. the shot with all the evil mutants flying towards a building looks like a prison. i was under the impression that the prison was where he got his mutant army...i guess not.
army by The Irish Asylum	Mar 7th, 2006 12:55:53 AM
Way I figure it is that half, if not more than, of Magneto's army is just Multiple Man.
That's not Stacy X, it's Arclight by Terry_1978	Mar 7th, 2006 12:56:02 AM
Just so ya know.
Yeah Warrior-Poet2 by monkey tamer	Mar 7th, 2006 12:56:23 AM
But with your friends isn't "sucking floppy donkey dick" slang for "something we really like to see?"
Oh crap by pencil-man	Mar 7th, 2006 12:56:32 AM
*runs under a boulder.
aww shite. I knew this was gonna happen by dino_hardbody	Mar 7th, 2006 12:56:49 AM
That looked like shite. I'm sorry, I really want it to look good, i really really do! I though the first films were fanstasic (2nd more than first) but you can almost see the fucking wires and beast and angel. And juggernat looked worse than the wall. plus the plot looks like dirty poop. I like Cure, but its a bit too dull for a entire movie, especialy since they already did it in X2. Blah. This doesn't look good. And how come you barely get to see any new characters. It all wolverine storm and magnito. Fuck it. I'm going to bed.
Wow by Chaka	Mar 7th, 2006 12:56:52 AM
Why so ticked? Even if the story does not turn out to be "great", at least it's another big screen x-men movie ... isn't that reason to be happy? Plus, why the hate for Ratner? The Rush Hour movies were not crimes against humanity ... heck, Red Dragon was pretty good.
Beast's hand by Eric Kurth	Mar 7th, 2006 12:57:00 AM
His powers are being removed as he moves closer to the kid, Leech. I imagine that it's temporary.
by teddanson37	Mar 7th, 2006 12:57:04 AM
isn't stacy x in this one? wasn't that one of things everyone was bitchin about?
Ryb0 by Jellylover	Mar 7th, 2006 12:59:43 AM
If I wanted a movie thats just "entertaining" about a bunch of superpowered people that go to a superpowered people school I'd watch Sky High. When a film is titled X-men well then...I want the fucking X-MEN! And in the word of the immortal Stan Lee: Nuff Said!
arclight by The Irish Asylum	Mar 7th, 2006 01:01:48 AM
It's been a couple of years since I've kept up with the comics. What's the deal with this character and when did she start showing up?
Jellylover by Ryb0	Mar 7th, 2006 01:02:48 AM
First off, peanut butter is better. Secondly, it's a childrens comic book series. Made for pre-teen adults. You forty year old dudes over analyze every little effin detail in these trailer/teasers. Just go see the movie. I think it's going to damn entertaining and that's all im paying my 10 bucks for. Cooome ON!
Refresh my memory... by Fawst	Mar 7th, 2006 01:05:52 AM
When Mags was head of the X-Men YEARS ago in the comic, where was the Prof at that point? I just remember that Magneto was the leader for a while. It obviously wasn't when the Prof was in the Savage Land, cuz Mags was with him then... wasn't he?
Grateful? by Jellylover	Mar 7th, 2006 01:09:10 AM
I'm so sick of seeing people write that we should be grateful that were getting another X movie or Spidey movie or any other movie. If i'm starving and someone give me a Snickers then yes, thank you. But if I'm in need of food and someone hands me a big piece of horse shit and tells me to dig in well. I'll take the zero but thanks anyway.
Just Out Of Curiosity... by Silverblade11975	Mar 7th, 2006 01:10:54 AM
If this movie was true to comic, shouldn't Arclight and Callisto be trying to kill each other? I mean, in the comics, Arclight was one of the Marauders which killed a bunch of Callisto's Morlocks... Okay, yeah, the usual lost in translation from one medium to another... I liked the trailer, it still left some things unknown, so you can see the movie and have some suprises. My prediction, which is an easy one at best is that Phoenix will turn on Magneto and the X-Men and everyone will fight to put her down. Just my guess. Unlike some of you, I'll appreciate what is shown, pray the rest doesn't suck, and either way, see the movie and not get too emotionally involved in it. It's just a movie, and good or bad, it can't be as bad as Catwoman. If it turns out to be that way, at least Halle Berry will take responsibility for it at next year's Razzies. Honoris Causa... Silverblade
Ryb0 by Jellylover	Mar 7th, 2006 01:10:57 AM
Just got the peanut butter line...that was a good one. Hats off.
Jellylover by Ryb0	Mar 7th, 2006 01:14:34 AM
Thanks, i'm kinda drunk right now and in my drunken haze that trailer looked pretty entertaining. Why go for the whole meal when you can have the left overs. GOB Bluth should be a X-Men who does illusions and wears 4500 hundred dollar suits. What a sweet idea. Cooome ON!
Please don't do the Wolvie flicks!!! by Shermdawg	Mar 7th, 2006 01:20:58 AM
Save them to run alongside a reboot of the series as a series in about 10-12 years down the road. Six seasons, 120 episodes, 3 rated R Wolvie flicks. Hell, reboot Hulk, F4, and Daredevil and say they all became mutants when the they came in contact with gamma radiation. Thus leaving the door open for a Onslaught vs. Hulk Showdown in a movie at the end of the series run, leading into a Age of Apocalypse trilogy. If only someone out there, had this sort of vision for this material. DAMN YOU ROTHMAN!!! You know, I think I'm gonna end every sing post saying that. It feels sooo good. :P DAMN YOU ROTHMAN!!!
RRRROOOOOTHMAAAAAAAAN! by catalyst7	Mar 7th, 2006 01:22:53 AM

Ryb0 by Jellylover	Mar 7th, 2006 01:23:34 AM
I'm not trying to get on your case man but if you think that any Marvel comic from the 60's was made for pre-teen than you got so back issuses to pick up. Sure a large part of their consumers were kids but Lee wrote his tales for an adult and or near adult audience. X- men isnt about good guys or bad guys but about civil rights and racial superemisist. Mavel was the first to not only kill it's heros of but also allow them to kill ala the Punisher and Wolvie himself. Check out some of the old spidey stories of the 70's. I don't think many parents would want their 10 year olds reading that stuff in those days if they knew it was more than just "Stop evil doer" in the captions. God I am a geek.
What Trailer Are You People Watching? by pencil-man	Mar 7th, 2006 01:24:08 AM
...the one I saw had NO Juggernaut, NO Beast getting power removed, where are you people finding this? I got mine on Yahoo movies. Why isn't the Apple trailer working??? GaaaahhHH!!
all i can say is... by JacksonsPole	Mar 7th, 2006 01:24:58 AM
fck you. all you bitches cried and pissed your pants about how much ratner was gonna screw it all up. how he was gonna make something completely unwatchable. well, fck you. eat your words, bitches.
twas alright... by georges garvaren	Mar 7th, 2006 01:25:00 AM
but would have been MUCH better if rocky balboa was in it.
x3 trailer! Ruled by moonlightknightt	Mar 7th, 2006 01:25:57 AM
This movie is going to rule. For those not in the know the sentinels have to be in this one cus the black guy with the pres is Blovier Trask the man who created them. I frankly could care less is cyclops dies. That hopefully will mean more Storm time!! GO Goddes GO
where's harry by ftmigs	Mar 7th, 2006 01:27:00 AM
i think he liked this and he's afraid to say so...
Hmm by beelkay	Mar 7th, 2006 01:27:41 AM
It was a pretty good trailer, but it doesn't nullify everything I've seen so far, which definitely hasn't inspired confidence in me. We'll see, I guess.
THE TRAILER WAS GREAT, YOU ALL KNOW IT.. by warpspasm	Mar 7th, 2006 01:28:22 AM
and Harry's obviously staying silent on this one, as he knows he may have been talking major ca ca.
Jelly.....you are a geek... by catalyst7	Mar 7th, 2006 01:28:45 AM
but also very right...gigitty
Haha by Ryb0	Mar 7th, 2006 01:28:52 AM
Yeah, i'm really just talking out of my ass. I'm sure you make alot of good points and shit. I still think the movie is going to be fun to watch and that's all I care about. Your a good brother jelly but I know you won't cry cause your a robot. TASTE THE TEARS OF JOY JELLY. God I love that show.
Yay, action by Meremoth	Mar 7th, 2006 01:30:44 AM
I don't understand all the hate. That had more action in the trailer than the other two movies combined. So it lost it's homoeroticism, big deal. I'm so sorry you won't have Brokeback Mutant this tuime around. It's a comic book for life's sake, it's based on something that should never, and I mean never, be taken seriously to start with in the first place.
If I wasn't a fan of the comics I might like this movie by Zardoz	Mar 7th, 2006 01:31:17 AM
but I am a fan of the comics, so it looks like I'm going to hate it very much. Killing Xavier and Cyclops? Stupid. Having Phoenix and Wolverine together at Jean's sacrifice/suicide? Blasphemy! (Every X-fan worth his salt knows in their bones it should be Cyke and Jean, not Wolvie with her at the end) I just can't believe how Fox is crapping all over the real fans of this franchise: The Geeks! While it may end up being a decent movie, it isn't an X-Men movie that I will want to see...
moonlightknightt by Shermdawg	Mar 7th, 2006 01:31:37 AM
Wait, you actually like Halle Berry as Storm? Wow. The Few, The Proud, I guess.
re: Shermdawg by Bulldoggie	Mar 7th, 2006 01:32:52 AM
I read this shit every day. You gotta really good point. I thought the trailer looked better than it should have. I'd like to hear what RIBBONS has to say about this. BTW-first post in a year. . .wait until spring Bandinni
3 words for the fanboys: by wash	Mar 7th, 2006 01:33:05 AM
EPISODE 1 TRAILER. Remember that one bitches? Yeah, it was oh so awesome. How did that one turn out again?
X3 by isildur29	Mar 7th, 2006 01:37:27 AM
It is just as effective a trailer as X2 had. I thought it looked damn entertaining and I will definetly see it. Fuck the haters... Where is the Superman hate? You guys have Ratner to bitch about with X3 but your sex toy Singer gives you Kumar as a henchman/assistant...Lois with a kid...a frat boy looking superman...a lame teaser with no lines from our man...a weak storyline where no one notices supes and clark were gone the same amount of time...but you all focus on X3 cuz of ratner??? Lets spread the hate or just fucking stop it.
It turned out great BITCH!!! by Doc_Strange	Mar 7th, 2006 01:37:29 AM
That's why no movie franchise will ever equal Star Wars.
Ryb0 by Jellylover	Mar 7th, 2006 01:38:10 AM
Your the best man. Laters.
doc_strange by isildur29	Mar 7th, 2006 01:40:21 AM
no movie franchise will ever equal star wars monetarily is what you meant to say (the last 3 weren't very good...shhhhhh)
Xmen 3 by Gazoobz	Mar 7th, 2006 01:45:08 AM
Anyone notice, near the end of the trailer, when you see Jean's legs and she seems to be lifting Prof. X out of his chair...in the background, on the floor is Magneto. Hunched against the kitchen counter. Guess she kicks his ass too. Also, that bald mutant kid who is the "source" for the cure...is that the same kid in the first teaser trailer who is seen running into storms arms at what looks like the school. Wonder if he starts there or ends up there... Overall, I thought the trailer looked pretty good. Can't wait to see ths flick.
Still not feeling it, and I went in with an open mind by zikade zarathos	Mar 7th, 2006 01:47:21 AM
I honestly don't care if Ratner is directing this as I think the technical differences between him and Singer are greatly exaggerated by Singer's fans, but I'm just not excited about this. Nothing in that trailer made me desperate to see the film, and I'm usually the biggest sucker for a nicely cut together trailer. Unless the reviews are excellent, I'll be skipping this one in two months.
Awesome! And you pussies all know it. Pray that Supes by R.C. the "Wise"	Mar 7th, 2006 01:47:37 AM
trailer is as captivating.
Dammit Man by Meremoth	Mar 7th, 2006 01:48:51 AM
Why did you take me back to that pre Episode I time of my childhood. The time when I thought There m,ight be more than two Sith fighting off jedi and the badass with two sabers would steal the show. No instead I get the equivalent of Chris Tucker in a costume fucking things up, Darht Vader being called Annie and Darth Maul getting 5 minutes of screen time before getting cloven in half. FUCK!!!!
MYSTIQUE DOES NOT LOSE HER POWERS by PsychoCrash	Mar 7th, 2006 01:52:31 AM
Watch. She's totally faking it. She transforms into what she'd look like if she wasn't a mutant, making them think it worked. Hopefully. Oh, and man do I got gripes. I mean, it looks decent, I guess... But man do I have gripes!
Really good, Angel flying was great by ChorleyFM	Mar 7th, 2006 01:54:04 AM
I am looking forward to seeing this now.
bleh. by Mr. Waturi	Mar 7th, 2006 01:58:08 AM
and more bleh.
Wolverine is such a pussy in these movies. by IndustryKiller	Mar 7th, 2006 01:59:17 AM
The character is just not done justice. What is with all these inspirational speeches? Wolverine is a fucking outlaw, he should be played like Clint Eastwood at his craggiest. he's a nomad and a rogue. So far the definitive Wolverine has yet to be portrayed.
The trailer shows COLOSSUS in the rubbersuit by George Newman	Mar 7th, 2006 02:02:00 AM
that ridiculous pic we saw last month?-- You can see that Colossus is wearing it when the team is lined up for battle. The trailer can look thrilling, but you must not forget the Ludicrous story. What they plan to do is unforgiveable.
Has any film had a Good or Great trailer by veritasses	Mar 7th, 2006 02:02:28 AM
...and turned out to be a movie that exceeded the expectations set by the trailer? There are hundreds of movies that get released every year but probably only a handful (if that) probably fit this criteria. And out of these handful, how many of them were made by mediocre directors (like Ratner)? Add the stuff about the crap going on at Fox and the odds don't leave a lot of room for much hope...
I say Ratner has street cred for Red Dragon. by iamnicksaicnsn	Mar 7th, 2006 02:05:10 AM
I mean (Gob voice) COME ON.
Wolvie sounds like he's from Brooklyn when talks to Ic by George Newman	Mar 7th, 2006 02:06:40 AM
when he is talking to Iceman. Sounds funny
Harry you FAT F.UCK!!! STOP LYING TO PEOPLE!!! by Xenn	Mar 7th, 2006 02:08:12 AM
YOU FAT SON OF A B1TCH!
The Prof X robot voice is his mind getting into theirs by iamnicksaicnsn	Mar 7th, 2006 02:08:34 AM

Gambit by Bytor2112	Mar 7th, 2006 02:09:40 AM
Where the fuck is he?!??!?
stop blaminG RATNER!!! by catalyst7	Mar 7th, 2006 02:10:25 AM
IT'S THAT GODFORSAKEN PLOT/SCRIPT!
It just looks bigger, more epic, than the first one, by iamnicksaicnsn	Mar 7th, 2006 02:10:40 AM
at least. At least we have that. And any chance to see my city in it, even if it does get fucked up, is sick. And does KELSEY GRAMMER NOT SOUND FUCKIN BAD ASS?? COME ON!!
GAMBIT? by catalyst7	Mar 7th, 2006 02:12:42 AM
oh, only one of the most recognizable /popular x-men in decades makes a cameo in the prison seen scene... or so they say...giggity
I'll concede that I can't believe Berry has more lines by iamnicksaicnsn	Mar 7th, 2006 02:12:53 AM
I mean, COME ON, SHE'S A FUCKING IDIOT AND PLAYED CATWOMAN IN A $3,000 DOLLAR SUIT, COME ON.
"seen/scene" by catalyst7	Mar 7th, 2006 02:14:31 AM
its late...gig..itty
Yeah, how about an ULTRAVIOLET review? by catalyst7	Mar 7th, 2006 02:16:34 AM
Harry? Mori? ...anyone?...giggity?
Got no love for Ratner... by Flickerhead	Mar 7th, 2006 02:17:10 AM
But this trailer looks terrific. And I think that some of you folks need to go back and revisit X2, which was a pretty mediocre follow-up to the stellar first flick.
What's with... by Joel@eeriepa	Mar 7th, 2006 02:18:54 AM
Random Asian dude with spikes coming out of his face?
LOVED IT...this film actually looks GREAT! by KAWS	Mar 7th, 2006 02:20:41 AM
I'll be checking out X-MEN 3 the first day it opens, maybe even the second and third day, as well. You know this to be true.
I agree this is not really Ratner's fault. by PurityOfEssence	Mar 7th, 2006 02:21:27 AM
To slap any director into this thing on such short notice is asking for trouble. Unfortunately no matter who is ultimately responsible for X3 - the end product will be what it is - let's just hope that some how something good comes of this project. But I hold little expectation.
QUESTION TO X-FANS??? by catalyst7	Mar 7th, 2006 02:21:59 AM
is there a general concensus on appreciation for Gambit? seems like for every lover there's a hater...giggity
Angel is a sissy, Beast is scary, by Psycho_Kenshin	Mar 7th, 2006 02:23:06 AM
Beast made me poop my pants.
Re: Cameron Bright by Carey N.	Mar 7th, 2006 02:23:22 AM
I agree with Panterarocks. I'm getting a little pissed off about the continued employment of this kid. I've seen him in four or five movies now, and I don't think he's made a facial expression yet.
Mutants v Kryptonians by catalyst7	Mar 7th, 2006 02:27:37 AM
Superman is lame... he wears read underware, his "secret" identity is a joke, he never looses, he has no faults, and the general masses adore him. X-Men... a lot of them aint pretty, their powers can often be a hinderance, the masses hate and fear them, the characters are three dimensional, they are easy to relate to, and they dont always make the right choices... Srew SINGER and his SSSSupeRRRman...giggity
I loved his powers but I could never stand the cajun by George Newman	Mar 7th, 2006 02:30:16 AM
Gambit has always been so obnoxious to me.
TOM ROTHMAN by JaPra	Mar 7th, 2006 02:31:59 AM
TOM ROTHMAN SHITS OVER ANYTHING HE SEES, BIG HARD, JUICY, MESSY SHITS!!! HE DIDN'T LIKE THIS FRANCHISE TO BEGIN WITH. HE IS THE REASON THIS GREAT SET OF FILMS IS AT AN END. HE IS THE REASON RIDLEY SCOTT AND JAMES CAMERON STOPPED WORKING ON WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN THE SECOND BEST ALIEN FILM IN FOX'S FRANCHISE [alien 5] (he went with an AVP sequel script instead). TOM ROTHMAN IS NOT A FAN OF ART, HE IS A FAN OF MONEY. TALENT DOESN'T APPEAL TO HIM. HE HAS BEEN THE DEATH OF 20TH CENTURY FOX. HE IS ALMOST AS BAD AS JEFFREY KATZENBERG.
Here's an Ultraviolet review: It sucked ass by zikade zarathos	Mar 7th, 2006 02:32:29 AM
Happy now?
Wouldn't it be great if that ultra-top secret 3rd act.. by George Newman	Mar 7th, 2006 02:34:05 AM
saved the movie and undid whatever deaths take place during the earlier bits of the film? And they use our hate of the deaths and de-powerings to serve up something really satisfactory? Man, that'd be awesome. But NoooooOOOOOoooooo......
Not Happy by catalyst7	Mar 7th, 2006 02:38:52 AM
got a legitimate reason sport?
I don't know weather to like it ot loathe it by ZombiKiller86	Mar 7th, 2006 02:39:53 AM
I thought the trailer was an improvement over the teaser. I really don't know what to think of this flick. I'll just have to see when it comes out. Maybe we'll be proven wrong and it'll be a great film, or we'll be proven right and it'll be nothing but a pile of shit.
Angel's dive out the window is totally taken from Bat B by George Newman	Mar 7th, 2006 02:40:40 AM
Maybe if The camera was positioned differently, and Ratner used some creativity (and I'm not usually a Rat basher) this shot could have been more exciting. But no, the easy road was to use the same shot, the same swoop, the same glide from Batman Begins. Good grief.
MYSTIQUE IS AS OLD OR OLDER THAN WOLVIE by iiopai	Mar 7th, 2006 02:41:08 AM
Mystique is not young. She uses her shape shifing powers to keep herself young. If she lost her powers she'd look like she was at least in her 90's.
That trailer frakkin ruled! (and note to Fawst) by oisin5199	Mar 7th, 2006 02:41:10 AM
Saw it during 24 and was standing up shouting (well, gesticulating wildly because my family was asleep). Looks like everything we want in an X-movie: political stuff, relationship stuff, Dark Phoenix, mutant fights, Beast a-jumpin, Angel-a flyin, Kitty-a phasin' Jugs breakin' through walls, freakin' Fastball Special, Mags tearin' shit up (I even read somewhere that Iceman finally does a full ice-up, though we didn't see it here). I have faith, I'm telling you. Though it seems like the actress who I thought was playing Stacy X was using Arclight's powers. Maybe the Stacy X thing was just a rumor, after all. Who's the spiky guy? I also saw with Mags the odd guy indie actor who was the strange German security guard on Kingdom Hospital. I wonder who he plays. And in answer to your question, Fawst, I believe Xavier was hanging out with Lilandra and the Shi'ar when Mags ran the school.
Well... by myspoonistoobig	Mar 7th, 2006 02:41:38 AM
...that was probably the most unrevelatory thing I've seen in a long time. It looks fine, I guess, but at the same time I didn't see anything in it disproving all the reasons the flick is supposed to suck. Evening out the slant and flimsiness of all rumors/early reports of something against Brett Ratner's average-to-crappy directorial skills, I'm guessing this will be C-range -- not quite Brett Ratner on screen, pointing and laughing at a big pile of shit for two hours going "haha, look what I did", but not up to par with either of the first two flicks (not that they were classic either -- B+'s).
Cameron Bright and Mystique by oisin5199	Mar 7th, 2006 02:44:59 AM
That's what makes him a great child actor. The tendency in child actors is to overemote and be 'cute.' Just ask Macauley. Cameron underplays his roles and it can just be chilling. He was incredible in Birth, an amazing young actor. And if it was Mystique being cured, why wouldn't she look like Rebecca Romijn? Or if they're staying true to the comic, they could have her be an old woman (but that would take away a chance to cast a hottie).
An Objective View by stereochad	Mar 7th, 2006 02:46:59 AM
Hey guys, I'm a first time caller, long time listener, love your show!....................... So here's the deal. Bryan Singer is OVERRATED. Yes, it's true. T.U.S. was a great time (no doubt about it). But that was in large part due to Kevin Spacey's acting chops, the original plot development, and a fine script. X I & II were OK films (at best), often teetering on boring. I think the whole director change thing was a gift from the gods (read: Kirby, Lee, et, all). Now I know you all know (think, assume), that Ratner is a !@#$%, but COME ON, THAT TRAILER RIGHT THERE FOCKIN RAWKED BRA! Now after months of trashing an (as yet) unseen product, you can't very well go pouring on the adulation that this trailer clearly warrants (the CG will be better very soon), so I'm a do it for you. As an old-school fan of Byrne & Claremont I'm gonna call my shot right here.... This movie kicks Superman's ass this year. Unless it doesn't. OK have at me you savages.
Trailer made giddy as a crack addict by WillyWonky	Mar 7th, 2006 02:48:56 AM
I'm with everyone else who hopes this film rocks. I think those who say they covered this story in the other two films completely miss the point. Yes the humans are still after the muntants, but now Magneto has the means and the resolve to go to war. Kick in that Phoenix appears ready to help him. Now the X-Men have to decide whether to defend humanity and Xaviers ideals or help to squash the threat to them forever. That said, I am very scared about Vinny Jones as Juggernaught. What Triple H or the Big Show couldn't stand up to Vinnie's gargantuan acting abilities?
Gambit... by Spice-Orange	Mar 7th, 2006 02:57:43 AM
He's a little too much if you have wolvie in the same film- i LOVE Gambit, but you cant have 2 roguish loners in the same movie. action wise, there's just SO much amazing shit you could do with gambit and his abilities it blows my mind. Just think about any normal environment where he could just start throwing random charged stuff at people- not to mention his cards. and imagine the beautiful pink and purple CGI explosions! ugh. its too good to be true. we should just be happy we got nightcrawler and that didn't suck! To respond to the cajun-ness of gambit- they've retooled enough of the characters to have Remy's orgin toned down if they had to- but i think it would be cool to have a little "foreign" flavor on the xmen cast. Colossus us suppose to be Russian- or whatever- but i doubt we'll get that aspect in this film. Remy and his accent wouldnt be so bad for the films. so far, all we have is Storm's TERRIBLE acting and Nightcrawlers german as our worldly accents. I just hope this makes enough money to have spin offs- there's countless xmen teams in the universe, and not a one of them needs any of the characters we've seen already.
X3............ by otto maddox	Mar 7th, 2006 02:58:56 AM
............will suck like the proverbial lemon. Ratner is a hack, Cyclops and Professor X will be woefully underused, and from the looks of the trailer the film has two main locations, a forest and the Golden Gate Bridge. As for all these other mutants, who cares?
OMG! WHAT A DIVINE PIECE OF CRAP!! NEXT!!! by Orionsangels	Mar 7th, 2006 03:01:39 AM
but seriously folks. what do you really think? government vs mutants. war? maybe? maybe not? bridge gets destroyed. what else happens? yeah i know. i can't think of anything either, but it looks exciting!
80% of you are idiots by chicagosteve	Mar 7th, 2006 03:01:51 AM
Regis Christ. I have been coming to this site for like 6 years. The first time I saw this site was when I was in college in 99 and looking for stuff about the first X-Men movie. None of those 80% of you have ever done dick with your lives. You're not involved in the film industry. You say things like "Oh my God, Juggernaut looks terrible." Look what you're referring to! It's a comic book movie about MUTANTS! All this god-damn nit-picking...Somebody said "Why don't they do the Apocalype story and bring in Cable?" The first comic I ever read was X-Force #1 and I have NO DESIRE to see Cable and all that time-travel BS in this movie. Even people who are bitching that Kittie is not with Colossus in the movie...You're talking about someone who goes by the name COLOSSUS! You deal with the Ultimate line, can't you just get over the little shit? If they made the movie a direct adaptation of the Claremont stuff, the movies would be FUH KING CHEE ZEE. Be thankful that these movies are at least accesible and watchable, unlike crap like Hellboy and League. Man. Have any of you gone back and taken a look at those Claremont books? They're lame! His current stuff is LAME! They changed the stuff in the animated series, too, and I never see complaints about that. Get off your computers and go try to get laid. For christ's sake. If we had to put pictures of ourselves up on here in order to post talk-backs, I wonder how many of you would even do it. You should be required to show proof of having moved out of your parents' house by now in order to post on here. For all of you who arent' RETARDED on here and are not hyper-critical of this production, then please accept my apology for this rant. But for shit's sake. I've been sifting thru all this negativity for months now. I am EXCITED AS HELL for this movie. Like I said, I've been reading X-Men books since I was a kid. I've read every Grant morrison New X-Men, Phoenix Endsong, Astonishing, Deadly Genesis, and every Ultimate issue, and I love these characters. Why is it so difficult for these pussies to get over the changes made for the screen? Dammit, go to film school, you schmucks. Go make your own damn X-Movies instead of pissing all over a really cool website on a regular basis and giving us GUYS THAT ACTUALLY GET LAID a bad name. Geez. Ahem. Thank you. You'll probably never hear from me again.
stevershields by Orionsangels	Mar 7th, 2006 03:09:30 AM
I stopped reading when you said "crap like Hellboy" because I liked hellboy. How else do you make a Hellboy movie? It was just like the comic book, right? yes, well there ya go. So saying hellboy is crap is just your opinion. Just like us not liking this trailer is our opinion. I could debate all day with you why I thought Hellboy was a good movie. So don't come here acting all high and mighty. because you're a follower and hater just like the rest of us and anyone who says, "Regis Christ", should leave, bye!
Uhhh... hello.... Callisto IS a mutant. by W3bzpinn3r	Mar 7th, 2006 03:12:45 AM
just to sum up... she had heightened senses and regeneration, then she mutated into squid-arm girl, then she was depowered with everyone else in the House of M story.... oh, and BEAST LOOKS AWESOME!
stevershields by otto maddox	Mar 7th, 2006 03:15:12 AM
"Go make your own damn X-Movies instead of pissing all over a really cool website on a regular basis and giving us GUYS THAT ACTUALLY GET LAID a bad name." Yeah right - Brokeback Mutant.
take that you cassandras, Its only gonna be mediocre, by Funk4America	Mar 7th, 2006 03:16:55 AM
FACE!
This movie... by thechadrocks	Mar 7th, 2006 03:17:37 AM
Is going to fuckin rock.. BEAST looks fucking amazing.. And god damned impressive considering it was a 'rush job'. Fuck everybody who has shit to say about Ratner, it looks like he did a great job with what he had.. And am I the only one that thinks this movie looks really depressing?
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH by billybobhoyle	Mar 7th, 2006 03:19:10 AM
I get laid and i'm still saying that Juggernaut doesn't look right. The trailer was better though, a lot better than the teaser. I can't wait for the finished product. Well after watching the first movie, i walked out wishing i had seen more mutants. Well i guess i shouldn't have wished so hard.
Although I do admit... by thechadrocks	Mar 7th, 2006 03:21:15 AM
I would have liked to seen a giant hulking Juggernaut bustin shit up.. Angel looks great though..
Juggernaut... by otto maddox	Mar 7th, 2006 03:24:36 AM
...is a joke. What next, David Beckham as Gambit?
T3 and X-Men 3 by Blok Narpin	Mar 7th, 2006 03:32:56 AM
A) T3 was great and much, much better then the over hyped and overrated T2. B) This had better not be the conclusion. They are idiots if they don't make X-Men 4.
The only thing that could cheer me up right now is... by Shermdawg	Mar 7th, 2006 03:35:32 AM
something new on The Power of the Dark Crystal! DAMN YOU ROTHMAN!!!
T3 didn't work for me. hated the casting of John conner by Orionsangels	Mar 7th, 2006 03:49:18 AM
He went from being this some what tall, rugged badass looking man. the leader you wanna follow. to looking like some short nerdy wimp. when they show him in the future. he looks like a joke. no ones gonna follow that guy, haha! did you say T2 is overrated? are you high? T3 has a shit director and a female terminator. that just doesn't cut it. T-1000 owned your ass!
Don't like that Prof x and cyke gets axed, but.... by The Founder	Mar 7th, 2006 03:51:01 AM
the trailer looks damn fine. I don't know how the final product will turn out and my judgement is still out, but I'm not happy about Prof x and cyke getting killed and wolverine in the Cyke role to help Jean. I just don't like what I see based on what I know about the characters and comic. I know a live action movie can't be 100 percent true to the comic, but changing what's been established is just asinine. Cyclops should be with Jean. Their love has always been shown in the comics and everyone knows their connection and FOX for whatever retarded reason decides to change that and stick Wolverine in Cyke's place just makes me angry. Judging from the trailers Cyke dies, not a 100 percent sure about Prof x though. It looks like he will, but maybe he'll survive. The only person that shoul;d be bitting the big one is Jean. If they are going to do some portion of the Phoenix story then it's established that Jean does go bad but comes around and then kills herself to again save her freinds. I don't knw what FOX is thinking or better yet why Marvel is letting this go on.
Looks Bloody Awesome! by LucienPierce	Mar 7th, 2006 03:51:58 AM
That's what I say....I'm eagerly awaiting this film now. Beast is looking more palletable. And seeing Juggernaut in action makes him look much better than before. The freezing of the ice lake looked spectacular. I love the look of the film, personally I feel it looks like an edgy comic book film. The previous two entries relied too much on using the blue hues, which was cool for them but would get monotonous if the look was constant (what Spider-Man does wrong and what Harry Potter is doing right). Much like HP it seems they've taken the look of the first two and injected a bit of colour into it, maintaining a style but allowing for different directors to put their own stamp on it. While Spider-Man looks gorgeous, six hours of the same look can get boring. The only ONE THING that I want to see in an X-Men movie (And the design on the X2 DVD was spectacular) is the SENTINELS! Man that would make a fantastic movie. Start it off like the one X-Men issue of Onslaught where the man wakes up in his apartment to look outside and see Sentinels swarming the city. WOW!
WB's board have gotta be in a perpetual state of LMAO by Dave The Slushy	Mar 7th, 2006 03:57:15 AM
Fox has successfully managed to drive what could have been a very profitable franchise into the ground. Well done Tommy. You're opposites meanwhile are setting themselves up for possible another two Batman
Complaining @ss B!TCHES. by The Founder	Mar 7th, 2006 03:58:15 AM
Look I'm not fond of the changes that I've read takes place but even saying that the trailer looks pretty damn good. I don't know where all this "Singer is god" crap is coming from but the man did a decent job and that's it. He didn't do anything ground breaking. Can't wait until Superman comes out and you b!tches get phucked uped the ass. Supes is not going to be this great film that a lot of you mofo's think. It probably won't suck cause it looks like WB and Singer is rehashing the positive from the Donner films but with today's fx. I'm not sold on Superman, but I'm not ripping Singer and WB a new one. No I'll wait and see the final product. Most of you are bashing X3 mainly because Ratner is on board and no other reason.
Wow. That trailer almost fooled me... by DOGSOUP	Mar 7th, 2006 04:04:17 AM
...into thinking that it won't suck ass. Doesn't matter what you or I think though. The people who have never and will never read an X-Comic will eat it up while the devoted fans will weep with sorrow at how badly some of the most beloved characters in the X Mythos are treated.
How X-Men Part 2 should've ended by Vern	Mar 7th, 2006 04:06:11 AM
Remember the end of X-Men part 2: revenge of the X-Men, how Professor X used magic x-powers to stop time and then made a little speech to the president and convinced him at the last possible second to stop the humans from starting a war with the mutants? (of course you remember, you boys know that shit like scripture.) I really thought the president should've considered what Professor X-Man had to say, paused dramatically, and then continued with his plan to make war with the mutants. THAT would've been a badass fucking ending, I figured. Telling us that in part 3 it's all out war between mutants and the fucking humans. Well, it looks like that's what part 3 is about anyway, so now I'm disappointed they didn't think to have that ending. The bastards. Anyway, this one looks like it could be good and I think I am on Magneto's side. Go Magneto.
Angel? Rogue? by spengler87	Mar 7th, 2006 04:26:07 AM
Where the hell are Angel and Rogue in the line-up for the big battle? I thought Angel was an important character in this movie.
Also... Is it me or... by Negative Man	Mar 7th, 2006 04:29:08 AM
...does it look like the X-Men are DEFENDING the Worthington building (where the vaccine is being developed) in the trailer? That would be a nice twist. I don't see Rogue in the line up of the defending X-Men either. Perhaps she shows up to make a big save? Plenty of mutants flying and thowing heavy objects around for her to get her comic powers. Though, to throw my two cents in, I'd love to see a few Government sent Sentinels appear in the final battle. Making it a three way fight and hinting at future films. Wishful thinking, I know...
The girl that plays Kitty.... by Acerbic Norseman	Mar 7th, 2006 04:43:02 AM
makes me feel dirty thoughts. The trailer looks great! The Beast looks friggin awesome. I am so there when it comes out.
As the teaser, this trailer looked really, really good! by dobbler	Mar 7th, 2006 04:49:12 AM
I've had my doubts like anyone about this film and all the crap that happened, but the two trailers are just amazing, no denying it. I'm getting more and more exciting to see this film. But as an X-fan I would anyway. Wait and see.
It's called "X" Men. X as in Xavier. by DOGSOUP	Mar 7th, 2006 04:54:58 AM
Maybe that's why there is only 3 X Men films because after they kill of Chuck they aren't the X Men anymore are they?
Doesn't matter who directs this turd: it still stinks! by Zardoz	Mar 7th, 2006 05:01:34 AM
For the record: I have nothing against Brett Ratner as a director. I enjoyed Rush Hour 1 & 2, and thought Red Dragon was very good. (especially the performance by Ralph Fiennes) And I was VERY disappointed that Singer didn't return to finish what he had so superbly started. (Superman doesn't look good either, but that's for another talkback) But even if he had stayed on to direct 3, I STILL would think it was going to suck, due to all the changes they've made to what is canon and absolute mythology to me; this isn't an "re-interpretation" of the X-Men, it's an abortion of the X-mythos. It's a shallow, corporate response to what they think "everyone" will want to see. Demographic bullshit. So, I'm following everyone else and blaming Rothman for this forthcoming travesty: "Tom, you raped my childhood!"
Anyone else love the CGI on show here? by TheSmokingMirror	Mar 7th, 2006 05:03:33 AM
Have to wait for the hi-def trailers to really study the quality but Storm playing with the weather and Warren Worthington(?)'s wings are really beautiful to behold. Hopefully the overall effects package can make up for any mushiness or plain crapness
better than i thought by rebel299	Mar 7th, 2006 05:21:46 AM
but thats like saying a nice good solid poop is better than diarhea. point is, you can't tell from a trailer just how good or bad a movie is going to be. you think they'd put out completely ridiculous shit on the trailer? don't answer that, i know sometimes people do. the point is, we'll all find out if its worth a shit or not in a few months. until then, let the fanboy bitching and arguing continue
"Abortion of the X-mythos" by DOGSOUP	Mar 7th, 2006 05:24:43 AM
Damn right. The first two movies were re-interpretations. Iceman never had a thing for Rogue in the comics...but it worked.
from that trailer, it already looks better than X1 by newc0253	Mar 7th, 2006 05:27:37 AM
here's hoping harry dials it down a little from now on.
Just by looking at the trailer... by Der-Rabe	Mar 7th, 2006 05:31:54 AM
This seems like sooo much better then what Bryan Singer gave us with the part one and two. They were just so...umm whats the word...gay. The group fight scene did look a bit cheesy but other then that very promising. Even Halle Berry looked and acted in this trailer more then she ever did in the first two movies.
STOP RATTING BLAMNER!!!! by Darth Bono Jr.	Mar 7th, 2006 06:19:35 AM
Word.
What difference does it make WHO dies in the movie? by Mike Nesmith	Mar 7th, 2006 06:26:06 AM
It's about comic book characters. They drop dead all the time and then come back to life.
Things will get worse by declan_44	Mar 7th, 2006 06:36:42 AM
And I do not mean just seeing more of Beast in the film. All film genres go through highs and lows in terms of popularity. What I am concerned about is the day when the adapted comic has had its run at major production, and someone produces a made for tv movie. That will be the real doom of the series, not an average third X-men film.
"You know how fast the weather can change" by kiddae	Mar 7th, 2006 06:54:44 AM
Awful line. A lot of crummy dialogue in that. Some of the stuff near the end was pretty stirring, but I'm still not sold. This will be adequate at best. Fucking people.
I gotta say it. by Nordling	Mar 7th, 2006 07:15:20 AM
That was a good trailer. The first thing about X3 that intrigues me.
well that was fucking awful by purplewarrior	Mar 7th, 2006 07:26:54 AM
It's like star trek V all over again
Ratner: The man who has directed the most '3's" by masheen81	Mar 7th, 2006 07:38:44 AM
"Red Dragon." "X-Men 3." "Rush Hour 3." I think that's one for the Guiness Book.
by purplewarrior	Mar 7th, 2006 07:52:36 AM
"untitled brett ratner project". don't forget that one. Nah. Seriously. It's a fourth x-men movie: "X-men: we were just kidding. Here's Bryan Singer, so excuse me while I give him head and suckle talent from his mangina"
Y'know, that did not look bad at all by Ribbons	Mar 7th, 2006 08:09:20 AM
Color me pleasantly surprised. Hopefully the film as a whole works as well as this trailer does.
Only complaing I heard came from Harry's mouth. by DigitalDong	Mar 7th, 2006 08:22:19 AM
I could see it now " Oh shit, I guess this movie will kick ass. Um...uh...Moriarty make a post about it, I got nothing to blame Ratner for." lol. IMHO that looks better then the X2 trailor some 3 years ago and I went nutty over that one. And even though it was a so-so movie I liked it. Someone got served.
Dudes... by UncleEthan	Mar 7th, 2006 08:24:26 AM
Come on. You know that trailer looked sweet and you'd all like to be hack directors...hell I'd be a hack director if it got me the job of making movies day in and day out. Even Uwe Boll get's to work at making movies while most of you rot in a cubicle somewhere. That said- Comapring T2 to T3 is like comparing Kurosawa's Yojimbo with the many knock off sequals. Cameron is a true artist and what he did elevated the genre- and busted it in so many ways that quite frankly NO large scale action film since has been the truth like it was. Special note: I say Large scale which does not include the briliance of OldBoy, SFMV, Lady Vengence, or the Kill Bill films...oh yeah and On Bak...like I said Large Scale American studio action flicks.
I wouldn't sweat the deaths by Buckeye	Mar 7th, 2006 08:32:11 AM
I wouldn't worry too much about the reported deaths in X3. When you are dealing with a mutant who can mess with people's heads, it isn't too hard to explain away an "apparent" death. Perhaps Prof. X became aware of an even greater threat than the one posed in X3 (such as Apocalypse, the Sentinels, etc.) and deemed it necessary for himself and a few others to go underground? Any comics writer worth his salt can write around an apparent death...happens all the time. If the X franchise remains profitable, Marvel isn't going to let some suit at Fox kill the franchise.
This comes from Moriarty and not Harry? by JimboTFU	Mar 7th, 2006 08:40:04 AM
Hahahaha. Eating your words is fucking hard, isn't it?
looked good to me by stvnhthr	Mar 7th, 2006 09:01:06 AM
I'm a bit afraid with reported low budget that we are seeing all of the good stuff in the trailer. I'm guessing the SF bridge is the big effect for the movie. Hopefully this will do okay at the theatres and then FOX will greenlight a solo Wolverine film. Then I think they should go with the New Mutants or call it GEN X and give us new faces on the screen.
What does it mean when there's a question Mark showing by DANZIGG	Mar 7th, 2006 09:03:41 AM
I've tried to download it but i'm on 56K modem I have Quicktime 7 yet where the trailer should play I have the Q sign with a ? in front of it. anyone know what i'm doing wrong? (besides not having Broadband)
The problem is... by Babyshamble	Mar 7th, 2006 09:20:45 AM
...X3 should be incredible. X2 set it up perfectly, now everyones prepared for entertaining and watchable when it should be awsome. I did think this trailer was good though, particularly Juggernaught chasing Kitty Pride, and prof x standing up. Fingers crossed it's as good as I want it to be. Now when will we get a Superman trailer?
Terry_1978 re: "heterosexual men like action" by Ribbons	Mar 7th, 2006 09:24:49 AM
That comment is just so ignorant on so many levels I can't believe it's coming from an X-Men pusher like yourself.
I thought it rocked anyway by isispop	Mar 7th, 2006 09:28:50 AM
Yeah...I agree w/the statement that whatever has happened up to this point, this trailer rocked. Makes the first 2 look like little side battles that lead up to the war that they've always talked about/anticipated. I know some of those clips have to be parts from the Danger Room...but let's have this stuff all come to a head already. I will go see it and I'm personally lookin forward to some of the showdowns & I'm gonna try to not even think about Ratner or Singer at all & just see if I enjoy myself. -The Poop (Isispop's Daddy)
I was already there... by blackwood	Mar 7th, 2006 09:32:57 AM
...but now I might put bells on. Good trailer. Made me all shivery in the right bits.
I Predict!!!!!! the death of.... by erich	Mar 7th, 2006 10:11:42 AM
I have a feeling by the end of this movie the following characters will be dead. Prof. X, Cyclops, Jean, Magneto,Mystique. It seems the only way to put closeure on this franchise.
WHY does everyone say this is gong to suck? Looks GREAT by Teh Suk	Mar 7th, 2006 10:20:14 AM
I mean it's the last one, you know your ass will be pwned.
I cant get it to work by moondoggy2u	Mar 7th, 2006 10:22:35 AM
every time I click on it, the whole screen goes blank? Can somebody tell me what I'm doing wrong?
BULLSHIT! by Childe Roland	Mar 7th, 2006 10:26:50 AM
Warrior-Poet2 does not have "friends." And I still say he's lying about being both a warrior and a poet. As for the trailer: I had long since accepted to the fact that the X-Men franchise was heading in a direction I wouldn't have chosen. But, knowing this was going to be the last film even before it was announced as such, I had resigned myself to see it so I could bring a sense of closure to a fantasy universe that had brought me some big-screen joy...even if it did look like part three was going to suck. The question remains, will it be the kind of suck that I ascribe to Return of the Jedi or T3 (nice call on that, Mori -- the kind that really only sucks when compared to the movies that came before it or the comics it is based on? Or will it be one of those sequels that, objectively speaking, sucks so bad that one viewing is more than enough and every effort will be made to forget it exists, like Highlander 2 or Godfather III? This trailer makes it look more like the former, in which case, it'll be worth my ten bucks.
Looks Awesome by PullMyFinger	Mar 7th, 2006 10:28:52 AM
can't wait til May 26!!!! bring it!
OK, I'm officially sold on this one... by Uncooked_Meat	Mar 7th, 2006 10:29:46 AM
...I was a bit nervous, but I'm now on the bandwagon with both feet. Maybe I'm wrong, but maybe this'll be actual, bona fide good work from Ratner. Words I never thought I'd say. But I like the concept of full-on mutant army battles. In fact, I love it.
OK, I'm officially sold on this one... by Uncooked_Meat	Mar 7th, 2006 10:29:46 AM
...I was a bit nervous, but I'm now on the bandwagon with both feet. Maybe I'm wrong, but maybe this'll be actual, bona fide good work from Ratner. Words I never thought I'd say. But I like the concept of full-on mutant army battles. In fact, I love it.
HOLY FUCK! by Xorply	Mar 7th, 2006 10:31:28 AM
I mean..... HOLY FUCK!
Why killing Cyclops sucks by Quicksilver73	Mar 7th, 2006 10:36:39 AM
I can deal with a "mutant cure" (they've done it in the comics), I can deal with glossing over the phoenix saga. But killing off main characters, like Cyclops or Professor X? That is lame. Cyclops is a great character, he's a born leader. Killing him to focus more on Wolverine, or Storm (AKA Jackman and Berry, the big names of the movie), is such a cop out. So who's going to be running the friggin' school at the end of this thing? Logan? Beast?
Hammed-up Wolverine? by Ribbons	Mar 7th, 2006 10:36:49 AM
I don't know, I thought Wolvie was a-ok, for the most part. That line about "the beast," even though I liked it in some ways, sounds like one of those things that screenwriters' say and pretty much nobody else. However, the rest of Jackman's stuff seemed perfectly fine.
I'm not sold. by Magunga	Mar 7th, 2006 10:50:00 AM
The plot remains exactly the same as we all knew and bitched about before. Why would flashing lights and pretty colors change that?
Never really liked this franchise by ImaCoolNerd	Mar 7th, 2006 10:57:48 AM
But Halle looks hellafine. Still X-Men come off like the OC with super powers
She Looks Like Rictor by I_Snake_Plissken	Mar 7th, 2006 10:59:24 AM
If that
"What happens to a toad that's struck by lightning?" by AnimeJune	Mar 7th, 2006 11:05:42 AM
"The same thing that happens to everything else." I think it's no surprise that the worst lines in the X-men movies are made by, or are regarding, Storm. Eeeh - I love flashy trailers, myself, and this had lots of flash. And ANGEL....whoo hoo! Johnny Angellll......Ben Foster's HOT! HOT, I tell you. I'm not gonna blame Ratner if the film sucks (which I suspect it probably will), unless Chris Tucker shows up. Then all bets are off. "You wanna know what happens to Chris Tucker when he's struck by lightning???"
Bill fucking Duke by cockknocker	Mar 7th, 2006 11:21:33 AM
Not watched the trailer yet but thats a good start. Still i think ratner should take a hot poker up his ass. Oh and t3 was good but should have been better.
DId someone above actually complain about dialogue? by moondoggy2u	Mar 7th, 2006 11:21:56 AM
Need I remind anyone about what happens to a fucking toad when its hit by motherfucking lightning? You fanboys is sooo cwazy.
direct download link by Uncooked_Meat	Mar 7th, 2006 11:27:24 AM
http://www.jurassicpunk.com/cl ips/x-men3.trailer.mov No more clicky that linky
Looks Good by nme00	Mar 7th, 2006 11:27:31 AM
I never understood the bashing this movie got. I thought the last trailer was good but this one is even better. Hope this wraps up the trilogy well!
Trailer looks AMAZING... by babiedame33	Mar 7th, 2006 11:30:12 AM
...and I usually don't even like comic book movies. The X-Men franchise has been great so far, and this movie will keep it going for sure.
FanGIRL, actually, your point being? by AnimeJune	Mar 7th, 2006 11:31:44 AM
Every blockbuster has to have that one line that's so incredibly painful people never forget it. Lots of good movies have ridiculous lines. I liked X-men 1 and 2, but c'mon - that line was one step above saying: "This will really SHOCK you! Get it? Lightning? Shock? Ha ha ha! ZAPPO!"
moondoggy by Ribbons	Mar 7th, 2006 11:34:15 AM
Um, that's you assuming that anyone who didn't like a particular exchange of dialogue in this trailer must have liked every single line of dialogue in the last two movies. Because that makes perfect sense, after all. Dumbass.
Take it easy on the dialogue by film flavor	Mar 7th, 2006 11:34:54 AM
We're talking about X-men here, not Shakespeare. Those lines are part of what makes these movies so great.
IT'S THE SAME DAMN PLOT AS THE LAST TWO!! by Mattapooh	Mar 7th, 2006 11:35:13 AM
Some diabolical evil plan that centers around some young mutant? I saw that movie. Twice. Also, notice Jean's line at the end? Way to throw away the Dark Phoenix saga. Definitely LOOKS good, but that's about it.
You made my point. by moondoggy2u	Mar 7th, 2006 11:39:17 AM
I was saying that there is no need to bitch about dialogue in a trailer when previous movies have been known to use the same (or worse) dialogue. That's it.
Dark Phoenix in 2006, and Venom in 2007.... by AnimeJune	Mar 7th, 2006 11:40:47 AM
Watch out, Marvel's pulling out the big guns.
X-Men have ALWAYS been the O.C. with powers by Terry_1978	Mar 7th, 2006 11:46:50 AM
They've always been basically kids and young adults with their own problems, in addition to having to deal with that mutant thing.
Yeah, ok by nudity clause	Mar 7th, 2006 11:46:50 AM
So there's a lot going on in this movie, hell, even in the trailer. But that's just an excuse to see it over and over again. LOVE X-Men.
Trailer looks good by MrBoinfoint	Mar 7th, 2006 11:53:29 AM
Which means that ratner can shoot a pretty picture (with help from experienced cinamatographers). Red Dragon's trailer looked good too. But the movie was mediocre. Hope this one is actually good. Ben Foster and Shawn Ashmore look great as Warren and Bobby. Should've maybe hired Laura Prepon or Lauren Ambrose as Jean and I dunno some stiff guy as Scott and some linebacker guy as Hank and started the series correctly as The Strangest Teens Of All...
Looking good is the point! by thumpa239	Mar 7th, 2006 11:54:13 AM
All the characters look fucking amazing. And the scene with the golden gate bridge rocks. And that was only a couple of minutes! can't friggin wait to see the whole thing.
I was very surprised!! It looks great!! by Redbox	Mar 7th, 2006 11:58:22 AM
Look, this is much better than anyone expected! If you still don't like it, go to your room and slap around your copy of DareDevil director's version that you know you own. If you think Superhero films suck that's wondeful, go tell someone who might find that useful information. Telling geeks that superhero films suck is like telling teenage boys that naked women are boring. You are playing to the wrong audience. Go tell you parents, they may give you a cookie. If you think that the effects are bad, or "need to be fixed," realise that they don't need to be fixed, you do! The movie is on a tight schedule. The effects are not done and as hard as it will be for you to believe it, they are being made to be seen on a big screen, not frame by frame on your computer, in front of your naked Klingon wallpaper! Chill the Fuck out!! I was really worried about this film and it may still be awful, but I think, after that trailer, it has a chance to be great! For those of you excited by this trailer, I made some screen captures for you if you like. Collect them all!! www.stuffdaddy.blogspot.com Cheers!!
If they didn't have problems... by monty27	Mar 7th, 2006 11:59:42 AM
these would be terrible movies. characters have to have more than one side to them, otherwise scripts would be boring as shit. that's why x-men is so great, good combo of action and plot line.
redbox is right by jbuzzedlightyear	Mar 7th, 2006 12:10:09 PM
The scene with Angel taking flight looks amazing. Right on about the special effects - go see the whole thing on the big screen. Get ready to eat your words.
That was a great trailer. by odysseus	Mar 7th, 2006 12:13:41 PM
I'm pulling for this movie.
trailer proves ratner can handle it by general choe	Mar 7th, 2006 12:17:55 PM
i didn't see anything disappointing about this trailer. i didn't think ratner could do it either, but the trailer got me. i'm stoked.
Juggernaut!?!?!? by UncleFester	Mar 7th, 2006 12:20:26 PM
The Juggernaut should have been about 3 -5 times bigger. He looks to be about the same size as Kitty. Juggernaut should dwarf Kitty Pryde. Very disappointed in that. The rest looked pretty good.
No, Jean has an alien about to pop out of her by I Dunno	Mar 7th, 2006 12:42:02 PM
That scene in Aliens freaked me the fuck out when I was 8.
Okay, Clarification on Claremont and Hellboy by chicagosteve	Mar 7th, 2006 12:45:11 PM
Then I'm GONE! First, stop calling me Stevershields. It's Steve. Dammit. That's my whole name. I'm not hiding behind a screen name like most people. I don't prefer to remain anonymous. Second, the Claremont run. The ORIGINAL GANGSTA stuff. While I know everyone holds it dear to their heart...Ok, it's a comic book. It's cool I guess. But it would be lame to see it translated to film. Do we really wanna see the whole thing where the Shiar Empire holds court IN SPACE on a SPACESHIP and they pretty much tell Jean, "Hey, Phoenix, you're free to roam our space ship, but at noon tomorrow, all of us are gonna fight you and your X-friends. We have to, otherwise you'll kill us all. Anyway, see you in the morning. Need anything? Glass 'o spacemilk?" Jean- "Oh, no thanks Lilandra, sounds good. See you manana when I'll kill all you mutha funka's." Know what I mean? And I stand by what I said about Claremont's recent runs. Look what he did with the Xorn character! When Grant Morrison killed Magneto, Magneto was supposed to be dead. The whole thing got so convoluted. I know that maybe it's partially the fault of the editorial staff, but seriously. Who was that snake-arms lady? I couldn't even buy that stuff when it was running alongside Morrison's and later Whedon's run. The whole book (Uncanny, X-Treme...etc) just looked cheesy in comparison. And if you wanna talk Hacks, check out Sal Larroca's art. Put...me...to...sleee.....gone . I haven't read those THE END books, anyone wanna let me know how those are? I kinda hate saying Claremnont sucks but whatever. I mostly meant in comparison to Morrison and Whedon, modern-ly (Yeah that's not a word...). He created the basis forn the whole animated series I grew up with and I will always appreciate his classic work (Wait, didn't I call it lame earlier? Ha.). And as for Hellboy, that's one of those movies I didn't see in the theater but wanted to, and then when I was in line at Osco, it was right there with the gum by the register, so I paid $20 for it. And I don't know how they'd make it a classic, but it just wasn't for me. I love Mike Mignola's art (X-Force number 8, I'm pretty sure is the first time I saw it...And if any of you give me shit about liking or reading X-Force...it was 6th grade, dammit.) but when I bought Seeds of Destruction, I never got thru the whole thing because it was just boring to me. Maybe I'll dust it off later and try again. My last word is STOP BLAMING RATNER. What do you think a director does, stand there with a camera??? If this thing sucks, the brunt of the blame should be placed on the screenwriter and the producers. Someone said recently on here "I don't like Ratner as a person..." What, do you know the guy? Are you going by interviews? You can't just say you don't like someone as a person without knowing them. What are you, some kinda vicarious thru-the-web-interview star-fucker? God damn, son. Get outta the house. As it stands I have a case of pink-eye, otherwise I'd be at work right now, before going to school. Later people....until we meet again...
Uh, no by NathanDetroits	Mar 7th, 2006 12:51:30 PM
Juggernaut does NOT look good. That character should NOT be normal human sized, nor should he look like a reject from Doom. Beast and Juggernaut look tragically, laughably, horribly bad. On a side note, I'm guessing the lady who slams her fists together in the trailer is Arclight. Maybe?
forget the director switch by Barbinio	Mar 7th, 2006 01:00:06 PM
it just doesnt matter. these movies have been so strong, there's no way ratner could mess it up. great character development, good plot twists, and this movie will definitely follow suit. Looking forward to what looks like will be an awesomely strong x-men conclusion.
That was Bill Duke! That trailer kicked ass! by Darksider	Mar 7th, 2006 01:02:10 PM
Fucking Juggernaut's still too small... (continues needless fanboy bitching)
thank god moriarty can admit the truth by CREEPING OOZE	Mar 7th, 2006 01:05:22 PM
forget what you've heard about the film already. this trailer was amazing, and the movie will be even better. big shocker we haven't heard knowles since the trailer went up. he's probably hiding somewhere with hs tail between his legs since the x-men are clearly kicking ass for the third time around.
Just cus there's no where to post this yet... by Deep Blue Sky	Mar 7th, 2006 01:18:36 PM
RIP: DANA REEVE [1961-2006]
CREEPING OOZE has got it right - eat your words, haters by Tony Mike Hall	Mar 7th, 2006 01:21:04 PM
Who knows what the finished product will be like, but the trailer should force all haters to at least reconsider the initial dump they took all over this movie. Don't judge your chickens by their covers, and don't count your books before they're hatched. Or something like that. Harry, your silence speaks volumes.
Okay, the trailer has made me more excited... by Johnno	Mar 7th, 2006 01:39:35 PM
I am holding up hope that this will be at least as good as X2...
Jggernaut should be 20 feet by 15 feet! by Redbox	Mar 7th, 2006 01:45:54 PM
I actually think this thing has more drama. It seems so dire and sad. That can be a good thing. I do feel a serious emotional pull. To the constant complainers: Nobody looks like Juggernaut. Nobody looks like the Kingpin. The kind of Hulk/King Kong CG you want is saved for movies where the main character is CG and the money is worth spending, like in those movies Hulk and King Kong. Or maybe if you have a billion dollar franchise like Lord of the Rings, which has thousands of CG effects. These movies cost under 100 mil, don't complain if you don't see Galactus, okay?
by ftmigs	Mar 7th, 2006 01:51:27 PM
For everyone that is just now hearing about Bill Duke being in this movie, you should check the rumors on who his character may be. It's not confirmed yet, but his presence may indicate the presence of something much cooler.
Y'know, after this movie... by Blue_Demon	Mar 7th, 2006 01:56:14 PM
I'd really like a Wolverine stand alone flick. Get away from super powers, telepathy and such and have him take on some nasty Yakuza bastards. Just the idea of Logan walking around some forsaken back alley in Asia seems cool. But that's just me geeking out.
Saw The Trailer For A Second Time...Looks Even Cooler! by KAWS	Mar 7th, 2006 01:58:04 PM
That's my truth and I'm sticking to it!
Suck it, haters!!! by Ribbons	Mar 7th, 2006 01:58:32 PM
How dare you be concerned about a franchise and a story that you care about!? Yeah, suck it! That's right! Eat crow, little hating maggot babies!! That'll learn you not to invest faith (and your entire ego) into the success of Avi Arad's properties! Looks like the Sycophants win this round!! [/sarcasm]. Stop treating these franchises like they're fucking sports teams. People have a right to be pessimistic every now and then.
check here by ftmigs	Mar 7th, 2006 01:59:23 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X _men_3 Also, I agree with the above statement about juggs, except the movie will likely be closer to 200 mil with marketing. Juggs could be a little bigger, but what they have looks much better in action than I previously imagined after seeing the costume. Remember that these are supposed to take place in the real world, so there's no cosmic force behind him. Having him 3 times the size would look absurd and the cg would probably be much weaker than what we got.
Regarding dialogue by kiddae	Mar 7th, 2006 02:15:14 PM
At worst, Storm's "toad that gets hit by lightning" line is a crappy throwaway joke. The lines in this trailer, however, are awful, overwrought, pseudo-profundity that don't actually mean anything. The majority of Xavier's and Magneto's lines in the first two were top-drawer, and in this trailer they're spouting rubbish sci-fi nonsense. "When the air is still, and the night is fallen... who will you X3: THE LAST STAND COMING SOON with?" Awesome.
I've been drinking too much Haterade by Zeldas	Mar 7th, 2006 02:30:20 PM
There are things in that trailer that are sooo freaking great (Angel, Kitty running thru walls), and then there are stupid shit things like that shot when they are all standing in a line on the street. Crap. Well you guys know the rest of them. BUT did anyone else cream their panties when Jean was like "Kill Me!!" Yeah cuz I did. Why can't they just make a straight up Phoenix movie?? I also would have liked to see a shot or two of Dr. Kavita Rao cuz that woman is perfect to play her.
whiners by Magnethead	Mar 7th, 2006 02:55:33 PM
bunch of spoiled little bitches. after all the complaining i've been hearing over the last year or so for xmen3 i was really expecting something bad for the trailer. this dosnt look bad at all. and for all the fram by frame guys. wtf? are you bored? its like people are looking for something to bitch about. Eh whateva. bitch all you want, and i'll bitch about your bitching. I'm going to go see this fucker.
DAMN YOU ROTHMAN!!! by Shermdawg	Mar 7th, 2006 02:58:41 PM
DAMN YOU TO HELL!!!
My thoughts as a fan by quadrupletree	Mar 7th, 2006 03:07:17 PM
Honestly doesn't look half bad. My major complaint is the story itself looks.. off. Don't know how else to say it. But the acting looks good, and the film making/directing looks good. I still think Juggernaught looks to ta ly lame! And of course the story is what needs to carry the whole thing, so if it's off the whole thing is sunk. But I'll still be there opening day, for better or worse.
also, who's to say this isn't days of future past? by quadrupletree	Mar 7th, 2006 03:12:24 PM
maybe X4 will open the same as this film but this time Cable comes back to prevent the war, so all this shit goes down in this movie (Prof. X dying, war, etc.) and then movie 4 is them preventing it from ever happening? Just a thought.
K.FITLAND THINKS THIS IS GONNA SUCK ASS. by Ric Flair,Whooo!	Mar 7th, 2006 03:14:07 PM
...and he went to USC... WHOOOOO!
Spot on, bacci! by Childe Roland	Mar 7th, 2006 03:15:50 PM
I'm pretty tired of everyone who gripes about a glimpse of a comic movie bitching because a character doesn't look EXACTLY as he or she does in the most recent issue of the comic. That shit irked me to no end with The Thing in FF, which was actually one of the details that movie nailed (his ORIGIN appearance...in an origin story). If this were a Superman movie and had come out in the early 90s, would people want the title character to look like Red or Blue? Or to have a fucking mullet? The look of a character is going to change to some extent from artist to artist. Even the icons like Bats and Supes and Spidey do it, so don't get your panties in a bundle over the way a third tier supporting character in a widely interpreted ensemble cast appears in a movie...especially when there are probably a bunch of perfectly legitimate reasons to bitch (major character deaths that serve no purpose, etc.). Like I said before, this trailer actually has me not dreading going to see this movie in the theater, which I was going to do regardless. Can't be worse than following up Empire Strikes Back with Ewoks. And it might actually be decent in spite of itself.
my question is will the spider-man 3 teaser be on this? by LilOgre	Mar 7th, 2006 03:28:07 PM
Or on DA VINCI? If I were Marvel, I would vote for DA VINCI - Hanks' mullet and all. And it comes out first anway.
X4 and X5 plot info! by trombone	Mar 7th, 2006 03:29:44 PM
Hi Guys. Great news! Depending on the outcome of this movie, it seems Marvel is shopping around for another studio to produce more X-films. A kind of restart of the franchise with different characters. This is what I heard: X4 plot: after Mags and Phoenix go on their rampage of destruction, the government finally pulls out all the stops and goes Zero Tolerance with the Sentinels. X-Men on the run with Wolverine leading a guerilla team including, guess who, Juggernaut. X5 plot: Apocalypse, using governement-funded Weapon X resources, creates the Reavers to hunt down and secretly execute mutants before they reach puberty. Features the return of a mutant assumed long-dead.
I kinda like the way they've gone with x men by moondoggy2u	Mar 7th, 2006 03:31:42 PM
I'm glad its more realistic than most other super hero flicks--no time travel, space aliens, spandex-coated muscle suits, and, my favorite, NO BROODING, ANGST-RIDDEN heros. With a story line of superpowered mutants, its as realistic as you can get, i suppose. Its rather refreshing.
Sentinels... by spengler87	Mar 7th, 2006 03:33:54 PM
At the beginning of the trailer the president says "I can't negotiate with these people", and bill duke, who is bolivar trask says "Then you know what needs to be done." I think this is alluding to a green-light of a sentinel attack on magneto and the brotherhood, possibly after they tear up the golden gate bridge
Oh, and despite how cool it would look by moondoggy2u	Mar 7th, 2006 03:34:47 PM
I'm kinda glad they didnt do monster-sized godzilla bots stories (ie, setinels). Its actually a nice, largely cohesive plot that they've come up with.
Oh, and despite how cool it would look by moondoggy2u	Mar 7th, 2006 03:34:51 PM
I'm kinda glad they didnt do monster-sized godzilla bots stories (ie, setinels). Its actually a nice, largely cohesive plot that they've come up with.
fucking negative boring bastards by slappy jones	Mar 7th, 2006 03:40:03 PM
that looked fucking great..what was wrong with it?
Childe by Ribbons	Mar 7th, 2006 03:46:16 PM
While I agree with you about how bitching about the difference in characters' appearances is just plain stupid in general, I think you're almost setting up a straw man argument when you ask "why not make '90s Supermen sport a mullet?" I get what you're saying: the looks of characters change from generation to generation, and expecting them to look as they do in the most recent comic is not necessarily the best idea in the world. However, I don't really think that's what people are thinking. Sure, Juggy's been made super-duper ginormous only recently, but I'd be willing to bet that's how most people see him. Sure the Thing didn't always have the rocky unibrow that he has now, but to most comic book fans, that IS the Thing. Superman, on the other hand, isn't seen as red or blue energy beings, or a guy with a mullet. Do you see what I'm saying? It's the same reason people freaked out over the Spidey suit not looking like it did circa Secret Wars. The character's appearance doesn't have to be recent for people to care, it just has to be whatever the fans most closely associate with that character. A lot of times that just happens to be the most recent appearance because the character's look sort of evolves. But it's still unreasonable to expect every character to look exactly the same on the comic as he does on the silver screen. The complaints about Thing's eyebrow weren't stupid to me because that's how he looked in the origin but because who the fuck cares, really? It's an eyebrow. Those bastards made Juggernaut into a giant, but not into enough of a giant? Who gives a rat's bottom? It gets to a point where the demands are unrealistic. Trying to make Juggernaut ten feet tall -- having to frame certain scenes a certain way and having to skip certain scenes altogether in the process -- would hurt the movie more than it would help it.
If they don't cast Josh Halloway as Gambit in X4... by R.C. the "Wise"	Mar 7th, 2006 04:10:07 PM
then Marvel's fucking crazy...!!!
T3 by DefyThis	Mar 7th, 2006 04:12:34 PM
If X3 is as good as T3, I think most people will be able to live with it... a decent movie that was better than most people's LOW expectations. T3 was a respectable entry into the franchise... not as good as the others, but it didn't shame the series. It wasn't Predator 2. It wasn't the Matrix sequels. Lets hope for something similar from X3.
Crappy McCrapperson by KCMOSHer	Mar 7th, 2006 04:18:14 PM
Dunno what Mori's on about, that just confirmed everything I already knew. They kill a bunch of characters that they have no business killing, they completely screw up one of the classic X-Men storylines, and the whole thing just smacks of a soap opera with bad action scenes. X-2 had gravitas, a heavy sense of respect for the franchise. This just screams 'we can't get enough of the cast back to make another, so we have to wrap it up somehow'.
looks crap by thefiend	Mar 7th, 2006 04:30:06 PM
How can you make X-men look crap? Thats an achievement in itself. This thing will blow.
Well... by Ribbons	Mar 7th, 2006 04:42:40 PM
...even though I liked the trailer a lot and have sort of come to terms with certain characters dying, it still kind of grinds my gears that this basically confirms everything they vehemently insisted they'd changed (or at least, led you to believe they'd change via a diplomatic choice of words) they in fact did not change.
As skeptical as I have been for X3... by Lando Griffin	Mar 7th, 2006 04:53:39 PM
I liked this trailer. Will it be attached to any new releases this Friday? (I'm going to see The Hills Have Eyes so here's to hoping) Anyways back to being skeptical, I am hoping that it kicks ass just to spite all of the haters. I'm not a rabid fanboy but I am a fan of spite and making people eat their words. But a lot of these haters are so into their blind hatred they'll never admit being wrong. I'd love to see Harry eat a big pile of shit just for all of the hatred and bile he spews. But do any of us actually think this will happen? Start preparing for this review - one way or the other - now. I'm sure it will have the highest amount of references, innuendo, history, etc for a review in the history of this site - EVER.
Screw this....and that poof Ratner. by Capt. Blackadder	Mar 7th, 2006 04:54:10 PM
There is no way in hell this should be the last X Men movie. I blame Fox for dicking around with Singer for the end to this franchise.
Juggy's been big since the beginning! by critter42b	Mar 7th, 2006 05:01:23 PM
Here's his first appearance: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wi kipedia/en/d/d2/Uncanny12.jpg Looks fairly large to me - larger than the movie version!
What exactly do you movie experts think.... by I Dunno	Mar 7th, 2006 05:04:09 PM
Singer would do differently than Ratner? Seriously, I want to know. Assume we're working with the same script. The director doesn't write the fucking thing. So spill it how would a Singer X3 be better than Ratner's?
This trailer is fucking awesome... by The Dubliner	Mar 7th, 2006 05:09:20 PM
I know nothing about the X-Men comics, and still have no interest in anything X-Men beyond these movies, but I have to say I loved the first 2 movies and the trailer for this looks looks really fuckin good. I don't mind if this is the last film..if it's good and it wraps up the story from the first two. This movie, from the looks of the two trailers that I've seen, should be right up my alley. In fact, this trailer has me more excited about a film than any trailer I've seen in a long time. I'll be real disappointed of it's shit. But I'll wait until I see it before I make my mind up...unlike some of the gimps in here. And here's hoping we get a Superman trailer soon that actually shows us something interesting...
At least I liked Juggernaut in this. by riskebiz	Mar 7th, 2006 05:11:28 PM
He looked cool breaking through the walls. The Beast jumping in that night-time scene looked totally fake wire crap though. It wasn't kinetic at all and totally looked like he was hooked to a wire.
REGARDLESS OF ALL THE BILE YOU F@#CKERS SPEW.. by warpspasm	Mar 7th, 2006 05:16:56 PM
You'll all be there opening weekend giving fox your money.
For all the twits going on about Juggy's size by JUSTICE41	Mar 7th, 2006 05:17:14 PM
Not only are you saying something about your peckers and their inadequacies but you guys are also clueless. here look at this pic. http://www.milehighcomics.com/ cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=f ullsize&issue=97792366288%2010 2
Fucking cool. by Hail	Mar 7th, 2006 05:19:18 PM
It looks epic. It feels epic. The X-Men films are a giant balancing act with all the charcters and plot-lines. But that trailer really looks promising.
Morlocks/Marauders... by UncleFester	Mar 7th, 2006 05:28:07 PM
would be a kick a$$ storyline for another movie. Probably my favorite all time.
I Dunno by Ribbons	Mar 7th, 2006 05:31:19 PM
My main hang-up with Ratner since the beginning hasn't been that Singer's directorial touch would make the script "awesome" and his wouldn't, it's that the reason they brought him on (or at least, a result of it) is that 1) they now have a director, which means they can complete their insane quest to finish the movie in like 8 months, and 2) not much of the script will be changed. Yes, the directors don't write the script, but the one we're getting now is not the one we would've gotten had Singer been allowed to work on it (for better or worse, probably for better). I've been saying all along that I'm much more concerned about the fact that the script was tag-teamed by Zak Penn and Simon Kinberg. If Singer had been attached and forced to use the same script I would have had the same problems, pretty much. Especially with the wirework; Singer's not exactly a champ at handling that. Maybe the costume design of Magneto's army would've looked a little less cheesy, at least (not referring to Juggernaut, actually, but every other leatherclad "badass" in chains and S&M fetishry that follows him around).
this is what we've been waiting for. . . by repeatfather	Mar 7th, 2006 05:45:10 PM
I think you guys are giving Singer way too much credit - the first two X-Men, especially the sequel, were solid entertainments but didn't come close to capturing the potential these characters and storylines provide. And honestly I don't think there was anything unique about Singer's direction. I mean is there any shot from the first two movies you can think of the top of your head that just completely stuck with you. . .Ratner looks like he's done a solid job, and he was lucky to have a good foundation already built in place by the comics, the actors and by Singer. This movie will rock. . .the only question I have is how the movie will deal with all the multiple storylines and arcs. . .
YOU WHINEY BITCHES by solid bronze	Mar 7th, 2006 05:58:30 PM
Ok so Rattner MAY have done some less than great films (cue chamts of T3 and rush hour) but lets be hounest whoever fox gave the directors chair too (bar cammeron, spielberg or del torro) you would all be bitchin, so shut up and give the flick a chance... OH and would you drop the dream of having sentinals in an xmen film,look at the tornado sequence in x2 it was shit.and if they had put in sentinals in this film and they had looked shit you would be pissing and moaning about that, its a a circle that wont end.
The trailer by Elnegrodiablo	Mar 7th, 2006 06:09:19 PM
Stop being over critical! the juggernaut wall scene looked fine at regular play,your being a nitpicking Nerd by watching it frame by frame and complaining about what u see.
The Juggernaut wall scene? by Ribbons	Mar 7th, 2006 06:12:48 PM
That bit was teh awesome. Why are people complaining about that? There are some imperfections with the effects, but c'mon. Those two racing through walls for... whatever it is they're racing for is gonna be amazing in context.
That Trailer does NOT look good. by Snuffles	Mar 7th, 2006 06:15:59 PM
1. Ponderous speechifying from Magneto, mutants battling human prejudice (Yawn). It felt fresh and immediate in the first one, now it sound like retreading, trying to not mess with whatever was successful about the first one (hint: The first one wasn't trying to be like the two films before it). 2. The look: The same old dreary, underlit CGI friendly dimness, everything in twilight, or in weak sunset-light. 3. The costumes: I remember that Mystiques look was part of what sold me on the first movie .... those closeups of her face look incredibly bad ... the amount of time spent on her makeup has obviously been cut WAY down ... and lastly NO FUN. This trailer promises Miserable, Unhappy Mutants, fighting other Miserable Unhappy Mutants, in dim depressing light, wearing drab, colorless uniforms, spouting dreary, sad, unhappy drivel about fighting their "Last Stand" against Prejudice. Blah. Unless I see some clips, like I did with Fantastic Four, that some Mutants get to have FUN being super powered beings, I'm not going to see this in the theatre. Fantastic Four had the sense to promise Fun, and delivered Fun.
Size of Juggernaut? by DeeJay	Mar 7th, 2006 06:27:37 PM
While I understand the issue that purists have with things such as the size of Juggernaut, I think that those arguments are circular in their very nature. You could say that Hugh Jackman, is clearly too tall to play Wolverine. Ian McKellan is too skinny to play Magneto, etc. This trailer gives me the impression that they're giving the comics a different--- but good--- treatment on film. I think the movie's social commentary on gene therapy could be excellent. I think the concept of the human/mutant "war" could be powerful. I think that this could end up being a classic comic book movie. Were I to make the film, would I take the purist approach? Probably. However, as long as the filmmakers respect the original material, I don't think any of them are obligated to stick to it page-by-page. I'm giving FOX Studios the benefit of the doubt... and I'm looking forward to what they'll have for us on May 26.
in the end, complaints about size are just ridiculous by oisin5199	Mar 7th, 2006 06:48:39 PM
I mean, how a character looks has to serve the story being told (and of course, the budget). Making Jugs huge would have served no purpose at all in the movie except satisfy rabid fanboys and would look utter crap. And remember, in this, he's not a mystical force, just a mutant. Also, stop whining about it having the same plot as the first two. I just don't see how they're the same. The story has developed and different things are happening and different things are at stake. It's called continuity, people. It's called doing a trilogy. It's like saying, there's mutants in this one! We've seen that already! How tired. Or all the Star Wars have space battles and light saber duels and a good guy fighting a bad guy. We've seen it already. Having said that, and I don't think I'm contradicting here, having Josh Holloway play Gambit is like Crispin Glover as Joker. Fan rumors that will never happen. Sawyer guy is too old and big to play Gambit. Christian Kane (Lindsay from Angel) would be perfect, and he has some pretty good screen fighting chops already. Or even Jonathan Rhys Meyers. Just because Holloway has a bad boy attitude and a drawl doesn't make him perfect for Gambit. That is if we ever get to see Gambit in a movie. If they ever do the next gen X-men spinoff, they could certainly introduce his character as someone who steals Rogue away from good boy Bobby. Though I still wish they'd play Bobby as an overcompensating insecure smartass, like the comics. Then his character might actually be interesting.
True enough, Ribbons... by Childe Roland	Mar 7th, 2006 06:51:25 PM
...that there are plenty of other good reasons not to make Jugs 10-15 feet tall. I just get burned up by fans who clearly glommed on to the 90s depictions of characters (specifically Marvel characters, since I guess that was something of a heyday) and dismiss any other interpretation out of ass. I share your slight dismay/irritation that everything they said they were going to change from the script is apparently intact. I'd rather they had some creative integrity and owned up to their choices. "Yeah, we made these calls and we stand by them. We believe in this story and we're asking you to take a chance and trust us. It will work." But they didn't do that. They essentially bullshitted us because they didn't have the courage of their convictions. How is that supposed to instill confidence in the film? Like you, I've resigned myself to accepting the deaths for what they are and what they might mean to the very self-contained universe of the films (which, again, are NOT the comics but in many ways are just as enjoyable). I would just feel better about it if the film makers felt better about it. And I''m not talking the bs bravado Arad spouted in his EW interview, either. That nonsense about The Dark Phoenix Saga not being enough story to sustain a single film and the beefing up of Berry's role to please her fans was nauseating. I believe Singer had a plan for Dark Phoenix. His ending of X2 strongly implied that. I feel like his leaving sort of saddled the production of 3 with that plot thread and the studio, possibly out of spite for him, decided to push it into the background. I just hope the stuff they brought to the fore is worthy and entertaining. Anyhoo, this ramble has gone far enough. Peace.
Is the fact that no one smiles what you fanboys love? by Snuffles	Mar 7th, 2006 06:52:11 PM
It used to be that artists could manage the full gamut of human emotion in the comics, but then, I guess, times got hard, and the real artists had to move on to advertising or starve, and so all that was left were the fanboy artists who barely knew how to hold a pencil, and liked the "Grimace fo Fury" because it disguised their lack of knowledge of human facial musculature, having never really studied the human form. So this trailer shows a lot of jumping about and smaching things? And that's what kicks your kiester? Arggh! Grrrr! Smash! Ah, fuck it.
The lines in that trailer are badly delivered .... by Snuffles	Mar 7th, 2006 07:10:19 PM
... poorly emoted . Magneto and Prof X are their usual Shakespearean selves, but everyone else is just phoning it in. Or am I wrong? Wolvie's lines to Rogue ... flat. Every line, by anyone .... flat. I didn't feel much from Famke Janssen's "Kill Me" line either.
thumbs up by Chief Redcock	Mar 7th, 2006 07:32:59 PM
looks good, more epic than the singer films...
Rocked? No. Sucked? No. Awesome? No. OK? Yes. by -guyinthebackrow	Mar 7th, 2006 08:15:34 PM
We won't know anything until is comes out. The only thing we do know is that Xavier, Mystique, Cyclops, and a whole bunch of the Brotherhood die. That is all we know. And one more thing. The director of "The Usual Suspects" has been replaced by the director of "Rush Hour 2".
It's a trailer.. by lennonisgod	Mar 7th, 2006 08:26:23 PM
the lines are out of context and will naturally sounds a bit off. The fact is, a lot of the first two movies were cheesy too (mystique as the statue of liberty, sabertooth's all around look,storm's toad lightning bullshit, magneto flying on that disc with his arms crossed like some sort of douchebag, pyro's horrible "You know the bad mutants they're always talking about? I'm one of them!" line) Point being each of the films have had their good and bad parts, but this one seems to have a lot of what the others were lacking. ACTION! I mean come one, this is a story about mutants with special powers, drama is all good but in the end we all look forward to those battle scenes where the X-MEN can just own. For what it is, this movie will be great.
T2 and X2 were BOTH totally overrated by Kaitain	Mar 7th, 2006 09:22:22 PM
T2 = nonsensical sequel to the first movie (plot is totally incompatible), X2 = terrible last half hour.
trailer reaction by Darth Thoth	Mar 7th, 2006 09:25:13 PM
I thought the trailer was very good. X2's trailers blew me away and that movie lived up to the hype. I hope X3 delivers too. My estimate: not as good as X2 but better than X3.
It looks like Smallville by performingmonkey	Mar 7th, 2006 09:27:51 PM
Don't know why but I got that feeling. Of course, the effects budget is slightly larger. The only thing that will make this watchable is Ian Mckellen's performance - he already owns the movie in the trailer. Halle Berry can fuck off. The fact that we know there's gonna be several 'weepy' scenes involving her and Logan and the movie immediately seems a whole lot worse. The shot with Magneto leading the others felt really cheesy rather than spine-tingling like it should. Why couldn't they wait for Singer?
No no no no NO NO! What is WRONG with you people? by abysstare	Mar 7th, 2006 09:33:21 PM
GRR. Okay, look, the trailer looks fine, yes. But I feel like everyone is missing the point. The problem here is the same as it's been from the beginning. The Phoenix storyline is NOT the B part of a story, it's the A part of the story. And the love between Cyclops and Phoenix is what made that story a tragedy worth caring about. By killing off Cyclops, you loose that. Are you going to tell me that we needed more WOLVERINE!? Geez, the guy was front and center for the first two flicks, and is getting his own after this one. Let some other actors shine and have the spotlight here. This movie should have featured Famke Jansen and James Marsden. They deserved it. It pisses me off that Marsden was robbed like that, and chances are killing him off early was his "punishment" for taking a small role in Singer's competing Superman movie. Fuck you. All the emotion that you could have gotten from that storyline is lost now. There are adaptations that are faithful to the source material and those that bastardize it. There are those that keep to the spirit of the original and those that don't. The emotional core of the Phoenix storyline is the love between Cyclops and Jean, and that's now completely lost to us. Even if this film is amazing, it can't make up for that.
P.S. by abysstare	Mar 7th, 2006 09:42:11 PM
As an aside, it further pisses me off that Halle Berry was completely catered to. Why? Because she won an oscar? Please. She can't even do Storm's freaking ACCENT. And while I have no major issues with Hugh Jackman, he's certainly no better an actor than Marden. Honestly, NEITHER of them are that great. Look at the scene towards the end of the last film where they're both upset over Jean's "death." Their attempts at emoting their grief there is laughable. And yes, his delivery in the trailer to Jean at the end DOES suck, and it only makes the fact that it's not coming Cyclops all the worse. At least if there was some emotion there it could make up for it a bit. HOWEVER, to the someone that busted on Famke Jansen's delivery, you're nuts. She can freaking ACT. That delivery is AMAZING, period.
I meant not as good as X2 but better than X1 by Darth Thoth	Mar 7th, 2006 09:46:08 PM
And I agree regarding Cyclops. The guy/ character was screwed. Here's my biggest problem with X3. It's the same problem I had with T3. T3 failed to move FORWARD. Meaning, it was like a retread of T1 and T2. T3 should have been the post-apocalypse. Instead, they were still trying to avoid the apocalypse like in the previous 2 movies. With X3, how many doggone cures are we going to have?! While X2 was certainly a sequel to X1, I didn't see a 3 movie arc being developed that had to be "resolved" in X3. No, instead we should have moved FORWARD. The X-Men universe is huge! So many characters, stories, villains. Why stick with the government as the bad guy idea. And if so, why not incorporate the Sentinals like everyone wants. Oh well. Just my desires. Still, I am looking forward to X3. Will be there opening day. And expect this to be a good movie. While I was upset at the production schedule and rushing of things, I think/ hope they have been able to do the impossible and beat the odds by delivering a great movie. We'll see. Here's hoping for the best! Make it happen Brett!
If you like X-men films. more power to ya by Orionsangels	Mar 7th, 2006 10:01:39 PM
My hatred doesn't run as deep as your support for these films. I don't like these movies that much and I could give a fuck. So I'm not gonna continue to argue back and forth with X-men fans. As if it was something important like Star Wars or LOTR. It's not even worth it. Have your X-men fun. For me. Maybe I'll catch it on cable sometime.
HD is up by AnAgentOfEvil	Mar 7th, 2006 10:34:50 PM
Sorry if this has been posted. I didn't see it anywhere.
I'd Be Lying by dancinggopher01	Mar 7th, 2006 11:13:03 PM
if I said I wasnt going to see this...no matter how much I know its going to suck.
How did X2 not have action? by Ribbons	Mar 7th, 2006 11:16:50 PM
What the hell is wrong with you people? I see this comment made all the time and it makes no sense whatsoever. Go through X2 and it's pretty consistently action-y.
The chinese kid with spikes in his face, is the.... by Warcraft	Mar 7th, 2006 11:23:45 PM
...main character from volcano high, another super power movie. Cool!
Bobby Drake by Jellylover	Mar 7th, 2006 11:26:55 PM
Is Iceman ever going to cover himself in an iceblock and break it off to be completly made out of ice? Anybody?
What is Papa Smurf doing in X3? by isildur999	Mar 7th, 2006 11:42:27 PM

x-films by Hellhouse	Mar 7th, 2006 11:49:24 PM
I think that it was tough to do the x-men in a believable way in the first place. Thank God they didn't put them in yellow spandex. These are interesting, iconic characters and I'm glad a dignified attempt was made.I liked the first two films ok and I think the third will probably be more of the same. The Colossus cheese factor worries me though.Plus, why does Kitty seem to have a crush on Bobby? WTF?
Avoiding the apocalypse in The Terminator? by Kaitain	Mar 7th, 2006 11:54:53 PM
"Instead, they were still trying to avoid the apocalypse like in the previous 2 movies." ------- Nobody tries to avoid the apocalypse in The Terminator. Indeed, it is clear from the single time line and loop structure that the apocalypse cannot be avoided. This is why T2 is fundamentally incompatible with T1.
Storm's accent? by OnLegendary86	Mar 8th, 2006 12:14:50 AM
okay...so people complain about Halle Berry not being able to do "Storm's accent"...my question is this: What accent are you basing her's off of? The 90's cartoon? Come on! You can't be serious! In these films, it isn't even mentioned that Storm is from Africa, so technically, she DOESN'T EVEN NEED AN ACCENT! You people forget that these movies are not comic books translated to film. They are interpretations at best. Be glad that ANY of the stuff we hope for makes it into the films.
HOLY SHIT! FOX EDITED THE HD VERSION!!! by Shermdawg	Mar 8th, 2006 12:21:23 AM
They removed the shot of Wolvie and Storm kneeling beside Xavier's empty chair. I was getting some screencaps for my blog, and I noticed it. DAMN YOU ROTHMAN!!!
Calm Down Bunnies! by Redbox	Mar 8th, 2006 12:53:06 AM
Okay this movie is not the Dark Phoenix Saga with the Hellfire Club as we know and love them. Juggernaut is not five feet wide. Nightcrawler is not in it at all! (sob!) And no matter how many of those pills you're taking, no matter how much you use the pump, it's not getting any bigger. These are what we call "the harsh facts." They are not points of critique. You don't critique a movie by what you wish they had done, you look at what they set out to do and then you ask if it works. You can't complain that "Terms of Endearment" isn't funny enough or that "Fantasia" doesn't have any hot sex scenes! If you're reading "Winnie the Pooh" for the knife fights, you are shit out of luck. If you love webshooters more than you love your teddy bear, don't go see Spider-man. If you want a Sci-Fi action epic with silly S&M villains named "Eric The Red" or disco heroes like "Dazzler" don't go see X3! If it sucks, that's one thing, but it seems to me that many of you really have no ability to judge something on it's own merits. You like what you like, you hate anything that deviates from it and you seem happy to just piss on anything that comes your way. The CG is bad, the.08 second shot looked wrong, no one will sing me to sleep! It's just a bunch of tired boring repetitive bile!! Have an opinion that backs itself with more than the word "sucks!" Try describing what would be better without burning or farting on the film. Let someone in on the deep thoughts that go on between your ears when you're not abusing yourself to pictures from your "Furry" art collection! Believe me! I wish they would go back and replace Angela Bassett as Storm in every film! But if I say that all the time, do you think its gonna happen? Those who really have ideas and Opinions I'm sorry, but so much of this would be less of a circle jerk if people would just make an effort to be interesting and well thought out. My friend told me he took some friends to Spider-man a few years back and one girl wouldn't stop shouting "This sucks! Where's Iceman and Firestar! Where are the Amazing Friends!!" That girl was obviously your Mom -Cheers! -Stuff Daddy
Magneto is boring by BRUTICUS	Mar 8th, 2006 12:55:18 AM
it should have been Apocolypse this time!
jellylover's question and complaints about script by oisin5199	Mar 8th, 2006 12:59:24 AM
I remember reading in the series of set visits on superherohype.com that Bobby would indeed totally "ice up" in this movie. Which would be pretty awesome and I hope it's true. And I'm so tired of the whiners who want 'their' X-Men movie, like a Cyclops/Jean movie. This isn't it. Get over it. We don't know yet how they'll interpret the Dark Phoenix saga (but it's certainly not going to involve silly spaceships, alien warriors and crystals - come on, people), and we also don't know exactly what changes were made in the script or if they didn't change the script, Roland. You can speculate from a few shots, but the truth is You. Don't. Know. This trilogy was never about the individual characters as such, but about how they fit into the socio-political scheme of government humans/Prof. X mutants/Magneto mutants. Cyclops and Jean's love story was always an underplayed background part to serve the whole and reference the comics, but it's not what this trilogy is about. And I'm also tired of the Halle Berry complaints and the imaginative speculation around her 'beefed up part.' I think she very rightly requested that if she was going to be in this film she had to actually have something to do and something to say. I hate to say it, and I'll probably get flamed, but Storm is more important to these particular stories than Jean and Scott, because of her mentor role and political position. Jean and Scott were important as back story for the school and their personal relationships with Xavier, but not necessarily for the plot moving forward. If they had done the early days of the X-Men (like the original team), it would have been a different story, literally. I would have loved to have seen that. But they didn't. We'll get a taste of things with this opening flashback, but that's it. But again, we just don't know yet how exactly Jean's story will be woven into the mutant cure story. To me, so far, this does NOT seem like a retread of the first two movies, but an extension and stakes-upping continuation of the story that began in the first film. I know it'd be great to see all different kinds of X-Men stories with different antagonists, but that's just not going to happen here. They decided to go for a cohesive trilogy, which I also like. Maybe down the road, other stories can be told - I'm holding out hope for the spinoffs. But until then, enjoy your Fastball Special, baby!
while I was writing by oisin5199	Mar 8th, 2006 01:01:42 AM
Redbox pretty much echoed my sentiments. Right on. Oh, and I still say in the ultimate (no pun intended) X-Men recast, Gina Torres IS Storm.
This by BRUTICUS	Mar 8th, 2006 01:04:39 AM
really needed to be the movie with Wolvie climbing Sentinels with his claws... sigh, instead we get Gandalf/Magneto again, YAWN!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good points oisin5199! by Redbox	Mar 8th, 2006 01:14:25 AM
About Storm and the political theme of these films. If people want Other X-Baddies, they only have to wait until the next film. Like later Spider-man films that will surely fill with Carnage and other kiddie favs that Sam would never touch, the new X-films will have all the Cable, Mr. Sinister and Apocolypse types to get your 90's buzz on! I think I may quit watching by then. -stuffdaddy.blogspot.com
repeatfather by calami-shami	Mar 8th, 2006 02:37:29 AM
what about nightcrawler's attack on the whitehouse in X2? Or Wolverine's "kind of" berserker rage during the mansion raid? If there's one thing that Singer did and should be given credit for (but like joss whedon, never will.) is that in each xmen film he helmed when a mutant used their powers on screen for the first time he showed it perfectly. Wolverine popping his claws, Rouge sucking up some essence, Collossus powering up. On a side note just cause i remembered it, when i saw X2 the second time when Logan went nuts in the mansion, this guy across from me said "God Damn its about time he killed someone!" That was heelarryus.
someone said... by calami-shami	Mar 8th, 2006 02:44:52 AM
gambit cameos in a prison scene (no, im not going there.) didn't Gambit make his debut in the Xmen cartoon at a prison camp with Jubilee or something? That cartoon had shitty animation but it definitely was a childhood favorite of mine. I remeber the music more than anything. Michael Kamen, the guy who did the music for the LETHAL WEAPON movies and the DIE-HARD movies did the theme for that show, he also scored the first Xmen film. RIP K-MAN. DIE-HARD 4 won't be the same without you.
PRINCE! by obiwayne	Mar 8th, 2006 02:47:29 AM
It's great to see Prince back in movies...does he have some sort of magic purple clap power?
also... by calami-shami	Mar 8th, 2006 02:55:12 AM
the cartoon had perfect voice casting, for every single character on that show it was perfect, even the sentinals were spot on. "I go, where I wanna go."
gold jacket, green jacket, who gives a shit by Boo Urns	Mar 8th, 2006 03:06:22 AM
whats the damn point of arguing over a movie like this when it's damn clear they're still very much in production and testing audiences everywhere for their reaction. Hell, I'd say the CG are like 80% done, AT MOST. When, in the history of movies had a minor character ever completely ruined a movie, especially.... er wait a minute, jar jar doesn't count does he??? Anyways, all these gripes about characters with probably screen time of no longer than 2 minutes, I mean come on... lighten up! As long as the main cast is still kicking a fair amount of ass, then what the hell is the difference who the director is. The cast owns the roles and plays them, NOT ratner... it's science.
Trailer's Fine by dmorpher	Mar 8th, 2006 03:11:32 AM
Yup. OK, all we know that no superhero movie will be the next "citizen kane", so, what's the point in bugging around? Look, i think that the trailer it's fine, has action into it, maybe i'll kick the all-x-men-in-line, like in the first movie scene in liberty island, it looks like they're going to start dancing "west side story" in just a moment. Size of Juggy? Better this than crappy CG. Angel was cooler than i thought from the stills, and the beast... maybe he should be bulkier. But, heck, we all know wolvie is 5 feet tall, and he WAS wolvie after all... the attitude made him... If Juggy has his sweaty lines (NO ONE CAN STOP THE JUGGERNAUT) from the comic book, and it seems he's really unstoppable running after kitty (who wouldn't? i bet i could ram down several buildings while running after kitty)... Leech? they should have gone for the "rosswell" looks. Callisto? hmmm... i want to see movie first. Psylocke? H_H I WANT her to have more minutes... a pity they couldn't do the hand part... too much stuff for a movie. And, How great could be an X-men movie with Mojo storyarc? and X-Tinction Agenda? First Genosha storyarc will be OK with the story in the movies so far, and it will have lots of action and stuff, enough for many people to mess their pants... Hey, Mr Arad, Hire ME for the next!!
The trailer looked cool to me by DarthSaul666	Mar 8th, 2006 04:41:28 AM
and no amount of negative "speculation" will keep me from seeing this movie.
At Least Moriarty has an open mind. Still pretty good. by The Founder	Mar 8th, 2006 04:50:13 AM
As i've said before I liked the teaser and the trailer. It was pretty good. I'm still not sold on the movie turning out good story wise because Kinberg and Penn. These guys just hasn't impressed me with their works on past projects. I'll give Penn a lil credit, but his work on elektra kicks me in the face. I'm not goint to blame ratner. i think he up for the job. I will admit that the trailer looks better then anything from X1 and x2. Does it mean x3 will be better? The jury is still out.
Still looks pretty damn crappy to me. by a goonie	Mar 8th, 2006 06:22:09 AM
Seriously, I went into this trailer with a pretty damn open mind. I didn't loathe what I saw in that "announcement teaser" and I was just plain excited to see new X-Men footage. But after watching the trailer twice, I must say I just don't much care for it. The image of Juggs smashing through the walls is alright and I like that shot of the X-Men lined up on the street, getting ready for a big ass-kicking. The images of the full-on battle (with Beast leaping through the air and such) are decent as well, but other than that, I just don't care for what's there. The stuff in the forest looks flat and dull, the stuff with Jean just worries me that they completely wasted the Dark Phoenix storyline, and overall, the trailer just leaves me feeling underwhelmed. It's interesting, however, that Mori mentioned Terminator 3, because there was a movie that I thought looked absolutely terrible up until it's release. Every image, every line of dialogue, every bit of footage... I thought it all looked downright embarassing. Then I saw the movie and completely loved it. I thought the action was entirely kick-ass, I loved the casting, and the ending absolutely owned. And again, it was directed by a guy that, up until that movie, I had a similar feeling about that I have for Ratner. I liked Mostow, liked his movies, but didn't think he had what was needed to pull off a great Terminator movie. Same thing goes for Ratner. I like the guy's movies, think he's a competent director who makes well-paced entertainment, but don't think he has what it takes to make a great X-film. Hopefully he'll prove me wrong on May 26th, because right now, I'm not impressed.
The thing that's weird to me.. by The True Priapic	Mar 8th, 2006 06:29:22 AM
is in the latest ed. of EW,one of the producers says something like 'having the whole film based around Dark Phoenix isn't possible' which is fucking ridiculous.I think a lot of the hate for this stems from choice of director.At the mo,it looks....just okay.Killing Cyke better be done better than we've heard...and now seen.I'm guessing by the look of the room when Wolvie is be comforted by Storm over Profs 'empty' seat,that X is aced by Phoenix only for logan to punched a hole through her.Thus,the love triangle ends in tragedy.Blah ....Blah....
Haha by Hell_Bender	Mar 8th, 2006 07:12:51 AM
I was thinking 'oh cool' when I saw Juggernaught chasing Kitty. Then my brain flicked on and I began wondering WHY she's running away. It's not like he can FUCKING TOUCH HER OR ANYTHING. I guess we can only assume she's running towards something and trying to beat him there, rather than running away from him.
That looks much better than I thought! by caipirina	Mar 8th, 2006 09:31:19 AM
Wow ... maybe my expectations have been run into the ground by the mainly negative vibe here ... but that trailer actually makes the flick look interesting!
No one wants P.S. to go bye bye. by Jewish_Batman	Mar 8th, 2006 09:52:29 AM
Singer made him such a pussy in the first two, Cyclops better go on some unbelievable ass-kicking spree. But everyone is right, getting rid of the professor means no more X-Men. The only good thing to come from that is the possibilty Patrick will now have the time to be Spider in a Transmetro movie... but that is way too bad-ass of an idea to be true.
Easy there, oisin. by Childe Roland	Mar 8th, 2006 10:13:56 AM
If you go back and read my post, you'll see that I don't have any particular issues with the choices the film makers made in the script that was leaked. My issue stems from their immediate backpedal when faced with fanboy backlash...their saying "That stuff is all from an older draft and will play out differently in the finished film" then showing us all of these images which strongly indicate that those plot points aren't going to be different at all. I have enjoyed the X movies thus far as an entity completely separate from (yet respectful of) the comics. I was and am going to see X3 regardless of what I hear about it (just as I was going to see all the Star Wars prequels no matter how shitty the previous one was) because I'm invested in the world of the fiction. If Professor X and Cyclops have to die to serve the narrative, I'm willing to accept that (as long as the deaths are meaningful and add something to the story). All I'm saying is, I would have a lot more faith in what I was going to see if the film makers weren't so busy making excuses for it ahead of time. I'd rather they took the Ed Olmos route when he initially responded to Galactica fan backlash over Internet rumors. Basically he told fans who couldn't adapt to the new mythology that they'd probably be happier not watching. I respected that. What Arad said in his EW interview was the opposite of that. It was corporate movie spin and it made me dread seeing this movie. This trailer countered that feeling somewhat, so it definitely did its job.
BRETT RATNER IS THE DAVID HASSELHOFF OF FILM DIRECTORS! by BNITT	Mar 8th, 2006 10:29:58 AM
-oem-
Entertainment Weekly mentions Aint it Cool and Rattner by oliwa29	Mar 8th, 2006 11:05:35 AM
anyone read EW's article mentioning how Rattner hates aint it cool news fans?
It's a good thing that........ by Kai_Mah'gra	Mar 8th, 2006 11:12:11 AM
.....movie audiences don't really give a crap what AICN talkbackers think; particularly the knee-jerk negative Harry Lemmings such as the ones on this TB. Superman Returns is yet to air a trailer, teaser or even promotional shot that generates nearly the amount of positive vibe that this X3 trailer, along with the original teaser have generated....among non-comicbook fanboy audiences; which is the primary demographic that ALL studios aim for, with comicbook movies, and yet none of you is saying jack shit about that movie, just because the 'almighty' Singer is directing it. Well, you should all be aware that there WILL be and X-men 4 AND 5 movies ( several actors including Ashmore (Iceman), Paquin(Rogue), Jones (Juggernaut) have already talked about having the option for 2 sequels in their contracts and Ratner himself said he filmed X3 as though there will be a sequel despite the impending "deaths" of major characters in this upcoming movie. The only question that determines that obviously will be how much coin this movie will make in the opening weekend and subsequent weeks as well as frm DVD sales (and we all know that that is what Studios watch more than anything - as opposed to fanboy hate on some nondescript Talkback on the net, for example). And this movie WILL make enough during opening weekend to gaurantee not just the spin-offs (Wolvie movies and X-Academy??) but also direct sequels, with possibly the much hoped for Sentinels and Apocalypse story-arcs; just based on comments coming from people who are not traditional comicbook fans or who even never watched one or both of the original movies and who have seen the trailer, and also based on a bit of scheduling genius ( by placing it at the beginning of the Summer movie Season and ahead of all the competition and expectation-heavy movies coming later on in the Summer - Da Vinci, Supes, Mi:III, etc - they ensure that they avoid viewer audience fatigue that later movies will suffer from). So all those of you claiming this is crap and you won't watch it....well, you won't be missed and frankly speaking we couldn't care less.
RATNER DOESN'T HATE ME!!! by Shermdawg	Mar 8th, 2006 11:13:38 AM
I'm one of the few here sticking up for him! Once again I say......DAMN YOU ROTHMAN!!!
Actually, it's Bryan Singer who bashes AICN, to Ratner by FluffyUnbound	Mar 8th, 2006 11:36:35 AM
But I guess I understand Singer's issues, since every talkback here about him turns into a homophobe fest and then into a flame war.
Oh, well if thats the case, SINGER HATES ME!!! by Shermdawg	Mar 8th, 2006 11:45:25 AM
Not because of the gay jokes. I've only let two loose, and they weren't directed at him in a negative fashion. No he hates me because of my unwavering support for that vastly superior Superman franchise thats still going (and growing). Yes, he hates me because I speak the truth......SMALLVILLE WILL OWN YOUR ASS!!! DAMN YOU ROTHMAN!!!
Cyclops dies at the start of the movie? by Dragulf	Mar 8th, 2006 11:53:19 AM
GREAT! I always hated that jerk. Bad idea killing professor X, he IS the force behind the X men. Angel looks like poo falling from the sky and so does the 'exploding' wall, you can see the premade holes if ya look carefully. I always hated the 'cure' aspect in the comics, such a copout. Wolvie is the father of all mutants btw. He is immortal. ;p
True fanboy critique here, one you may even agree with! by Shermdawg	Mar 8th, 2006 12:08:13 PM
In my honest opinion Logans hair looked much better at the beginning of X1. It was unkept, and realistic, yet it still captured the classic Wolvie look. But once he combed it, it looked as ridiculous as the stuff they tried to avoid (i.e.yellow spandex). I really liked X2, but when Wolvie first appears walking up that mountain, I kinda grimaced at the do. How much Dapper Dan do they use to get that look? DAMN YOU ROTHMAN!!!
Kitty, Jugs and Nightcrawler (possible SPOILERS) by oisin5199	Mar 8th, 2006 01:57:28 PM
Hell_Bender, you're right, Kitty is running towards something. I read this in the Superherohype set visits (anyone interested should read them, they're pretty interesting. McKellen and Jackman even debate over the mutant cure issue). Anyway, Jugs and Kitty are racing through Worthington labs to get to Leech, obviously for different reasons. And the Nightcrawler answer is a bit of both, Ogre. The writers didn't have enough for him to do to justify his appearance, and Cummings wasn't about to get blued up for a cameo. I would have loved to have seen the next chapter of his story, when he becomes an integral part of the team and turns into a swashbuckler. Oh well, if you can't use him, don't waste him, I say. Hopefully he'll be back in the next gen spinoff. And Roland, it's cool man. I just think it's premature to accuse the writers of hypocrisy before we actually see what they've written. That's all.
Dapper Dan? Nahh, all they use is Fops. by moondoggy2u	Mar 8th, 2006 03:37:25 PM

You haters crack me up by ewokstew	Mar 8th, 2006 03:41:57 PM
The same idiots who sit on this talk back and knock directors, actors, etc, are the same geek, idiot fanboys who, when they actually see or interact via the ComicCon or other geek Mecca event with the person they were cutting into, choke down all the venom they were spewing and instead lapse into ass-kissing mode. Losers.
hugh jackman likes to jack-men by shalashaska	Mar 8th, 2006 04:06:35 PM
I got this article from Defamer.com - The ongoing X-Men saga has basically been one long, overreaching superhero allegory for growing up gay in an unwelcoming world: Imagine Brokeback Mountain, but replace Jack and Ennis' forbidden love with the mutant ability to singe sheep with their eye-lasers. With Hollywood's hottest new web presence Brett Ratner's third installment, X-Men: The Last Stand (you can view the trailer here), the metaphor reaches its natural conclusion: the "curing" of these mutant teens of what makes them different. In a roundtable discussion on SciFi.com featuring the film's leads, things got rather heated between Ian McKellen and co-star Hugh Jackman when Jackman argued that perhaps curing one's self of mutation isn't necessarily such a bad thing: "There are people who think gay people can be cured," said McKellen (Magneto), who has spoken publicly about his own homosexuality. "My reaction to the idea that I can be cured as a mutant is as contemptuous as my view of people who say I need curing of my sexuality. The idea that black people could take a pill that would cure them of being black is abhorrent to me." [...] Hugh Jackman, who plays Wolverine, took the other side, pointing out that there are other characters for whom the cure is more attractive. "Rogue [Anna Paquin], as amazingly powerful as she is, lives a potentially very lonely life," said Jackman. "Never being able to touch anyone, never being able to have a physical relationship, never able to have children. Now, as politically abhorrent as something like the cure is, it's also humanely, socially, incredibly understandable that a character like that would take it." "It isn't necessarily her mutancy that's the problem," McKellen shot back. "It's other people's reaction to it. Maybe it's society that's wrong, not her." Call us crazy, but it would appear that McKellan seemed to be using the opportunity of this X-Men junket to take a very thinly veiled swipe at Jackman, and his personal choice to deny his own, uh, "mutantness," which seems rather ridiculous in light of how he enjoys the company of handsome mutants and tends to act really mutanty in mutant-themed Broadway musicals.
By the way... by Childe Roland	Mar 8th, 2006 07:14:42 PM
...I think it's funny that we've gotten this far in a talkback where "Jugs isn't big enough" has been spouted so many times and no one has countered with: "Are they ever?" You've changed, guys. It used to be about the boobies.
Well, I'll be damned Fox... by blindambition238	Mar 8th, 2006 10:26:26 PM
As much as I abhorred the ousting of Singer, that trailer kicked my ass as well as the trailers for the previous 2 films. But still, how often have these trailers now a days looked or have been better than the actual films. While Singer always emphasised the past films as being dramas with sci-fi injected into them, this looks to be an action film that has sci-fi wrapped around it. I am willing to bet that this film will visually exceed the past 2 on effects and action. I'm still up in the air whether or not this will shit all over the spirit of the X-men mythos, with the over specualted and reported contract killings (sure they kill everyone and resurect them at least once in the comics, but in the films it will be too much of a cop-out and implausabiliy). I enjoy the Ultimate series even with all their liberties; I mean I can handle Colossus being gay or the Phoenix being some wierd poltergiest, but as long as they are interpreting the charcters in a way that is true to the spirit of what they represent such as Colossus being a gentle giant whos unsure of his beliefs (in the mutant war or just sexually), or the Phoenix as being a reflection of all of man's darker id and rage (i might just be grasping at that one). But it'll really ruin it for me when watching the film if they just kill people for the sake of killing them. I might enjoy the movie when i see it the 1st time (which i will no matter how bad ther reviews are) if theres enough eye candy and acttion, but in retrospect, I'm willing to bet a m'krann crytal that it wont hold up in retrospect for the other x-fans and I. Then again I doubt anyone else will care much less studio heads...
Hugh Jackman is Gay? What brought that to your mind? by Redbox	Mar 8th, 2006 10:31:24 PM
I don't know what's more humorous. The fact that people care whether or not Hugh Jackman, who is openly not homophoic, is gay or the fact that studies have proven that homophia is directly linked to a subjects' own unsettled sexuality. The American Psychological Association found out years ago that a large amount of Homophobia is linked to secret homoerotic arousal. So, the more you care and the more you wonder if Hugh is a little more Northstar than Wolverine, the more likely you're imagining yourself next to him, on your knees. I hope you're enjoying yourself. I'm busy thinking about Emma Frost myself! To each their own! Cheers!
oops. by Redbox	Mar 8th, 2006 10:33:30 PM
homophobia not homophia. My bad!
The fact that Hugh and his Beard bought their children by JUSTICE41	Mar 9th, 2006 01:28:08 AM
Just look at Tom and Nicole. Mikey Jackson and the womb. Big deal if he wants to hide. Just make a good movie. That's it that's all I care about from these acting monkeys. Entertain me!!!
THIS TALKBACK IS ALMOST OFF THE MAINPAGE!!! by Shermdawg	Mar 9th, 2006 02:09:28 AM
DAMN YOU ROTHMAN!!!
Singer should have stayed tru to the comics by teddanson37	Mar 9th, 2006 02:31:27 AM
but he didn't as much as i would have liked. and i'm not talkin crap like "wolvie should be wearing yellow spandex and should be just over five feet tall" or some crap about mags beeing buff. i'm talking about the characters and focus of the films are different than that of the comics. stop bitching that ratner needs to be true to the comics when you worshiped the first two films and they weren't completely true to these characters. here's some examples of what's different in the comics and why 1. cyclops in the foreground of the comics. it would be insane if he died for good (when people die in movies they don't come back...except for phoenix. in comics they can come back...except for bucky. so who cares if he dies in X3, singer put him in the background so it doesn't even matter if the team leader dies in this one. it's not like he had anything to do in the first place. 2. iceman would be the comic relief. since issue one back in 63 iceman has been the class clown (sure he's had his moments to be all emo) but for the most part he's just been a wise guy (like human torch of FF). the only time i ever got that comics iceman feel was that scene in the original when he made the ice rose on rouge's desk. i sometimes feel like he's a young cyclops in these films. 3. wolvie would not be the main character. the comic book is about a team of superheroes. different issues and arcs in the past have singled out one character or another, but it's never been about just one character. sure wolvie is in all three major x-books right now, but he's in the background mostly. singer never knew how to make the team seem like a team. he broke them up and singled out wolvie, jean, and mags. and if x-men is about any character it's charles xavier. 4. in the comics rouge is this sassy southern hottie. i won't moan about her powers. it pisses me off seeing people type "she could fly and she was really strong on the show, what happened?". rogues powers are the abilty to steal powers. in the comics she stole ms. marvels for quite a while (stregth flight) and that's where the show got the idea. so the movie is true to her powers. and sometimes i feel like that's all singer could get right was the characters basic look and powers. and rouge is completely not herself. i want some of that sexy southern sass. anything to keep my mind off that gap between paquin's two front teeth. but i'm just saying Singer didn't really stay true to the comics. i never really noticed it because i had stopped reading the comics when the first two came out. but i started reading comics again about a year ago, and i began to realize how different the comics were from the movies. and not in span, or design, or the charcters which they chose, or even the storylines. i'm talking about how singer has straid from the characters. turning wovie into the deep main character isn't completely bazzar but it's rarely done in the comics. it be like making a movie with arcade as the main villian (that's about as rare in the comics). playing iceman as the confident serious one, is like making juggs the intelectual villian, or making beast the drooling and blood-thirsty. i feel more comfortable with ratner basically because it seems the characters he has introduced (beast, angel, kitty, juggs) seem to be in character. and that's a serious improvement. and the shot of the x-men in a line to battle the evil mutants was a great money shot...better than the x-men mysteriously showing up in the oval office. how incredibly stupid was that scene. come one. the x-men, i mean the whole freakin team somehow get into the oval office, while the president is live on TV. go watch it about three times back to back and try to figure out how it all fit together even with all eight of those mutants' powers combined. But let me say i do love the first two movies. even if they did get SEVERAL of the characters completely wrong. Singer did nail Xavier and Magneto and that's what counts. and he did have great respect for the comics and adapted it extremely well, but not perfectly. this is alot of crap.
Crappy Editing by Beast3000	Mar 9th, 2006 08:23:59 AM
Am I the only one incredibly annoyed by the bit where Storm says, "Nothing's wrong... with any of us for that matter"? Clearly two different bits of dialogue shoe-horned together very badly. How can they put it out like that?
I'm sorry... by Childe Roland	Mar 9th, 2006 12:42:22 PM
...but there's just no way we're going to get an X4. I dont' see it happening (Ratner's already said this is the end-cap of the series) and, frankly, I wouldn't want it to happen. Movies in trilogies are special. Movies in serials become Star Trek (what was the last good one, again?) or Friday the 13th (same question, earlier numerical answer). Go ahead and make the Wolverine spin-off movie(s). And feel free to cram a guest-star into the second and third ones (how many times have X-Men or other marvel heroes or villains done cameos in Wolvie's solo book?), but if you're killing Xavier and Cyclops (and, presumably, by movie's end, Jean) you're killing the head, soul and heart of the team. Jackman wouldn't come back to the franchise for a fourth go at lesser cash after spinning off his own sure-fire-successful solo franchise. There's no way Cumming's coming back as Nightcrawler after the way he was treated. So what would X4 be? Halle Berry's Storm leading a team consisting of the none-too-dynamic Rogue, the personality void Iceman, the relatively useless Angel, Colossus, Kitty Pride and some guy doing a bad Cajun accent in an attempt to create the next Fonzie for the X-films (Gambit, to those keeping score at home)? Why not just call it X4: The Benchwarmers? Who'd even want to see that? Whatever their other crimes, Ratner, Rothman and Arad made the right call when they announced that this was going to be the last X-Men movie.
Well... by Ribbons	Mar 9th, 2006 04:29:34 PM
...it could've been a limited series consisting of more than 3 movies that wrapped up just as nicely as well, I think. But yes, I don't think they should try to James Bond it. *** Sort of just to reiterate what I and Childe have already said, it's pretty clear that almost everything that Rothman and Kinberg implied was changed was not. Xavier probably dies (the scene of the empty wheelchair even more ominous now that it's been removed from the trailer); Mystique is porbably "cured;" Wolverine and Storm probably have some kind of relationship; ditto Kitty and Iceman; Beast is an advisor for the president; Worthington is the catalyst for this "cure" to be invented; Cyclops dies; Leech is the mutant plot device; there's a break-out of Alcatraz and an assault on the Golden Gate Bridge; Jean Grey aligns herself with Magneto; shit, the beginning scene is even exactly the same (and that one has already been guaranteed, by Ratner no less). Some of you may think it's "premature" to say that they lied -- and maybe technically that's correct. But I wouldn't accuse them of lying anyway. I think they must have known that they had no intention of changing anything that was the source of controversy on the TalkBacks and pretended they were referring to those specific plot points while referring to something else entirely, like an exchange of dialogue here and there, perhaps. It's annoying. Regardless of whether or not you think what happens sounds good -- like I've said, I've sort of given up caring all that much; I do think some of the ideas are good, I think some of them are not, and I don't care one way or another about other ones -- it's still kind of insulting that they strung us along as long as possible before they revealed that everything was going to be left in there, hoping that the material released would be enough to pacify us before they finally had to come clean. It's sneaky, dishonest marketing, and even if it "works," which is dubious, it still pisses me off. So, that's what I meant to say, I guess. I think. But yeah, I'm not revolting against the plot specifics at this point oisin, if that's what you thought. It's a little late for that anyway. ***** Moving on, and since we were speaking of spin-offs: It's a shame that a movie based on the miniseries "Madrox" would probably require more money than it would gross, because I think that would make an excellent "spin-off" from the X-Universe, if the filmmakers were ever so inclined. It also doesn't help that no one knows who Madrox is.
SPOILER WARNING ON ABOVE POST!! by Ribbons	Mar 9th, 2006 04:31:16 PM
Crap, forgot to include a spoiler warning. Hopefully you saw this before you clicked into the aforementioned post and started reading. If any of you did not already know these rumors and I've (possibly) spoiled certain things that happen in the movie I apologize.
Also, to elaborate on what I meant by "they didn't lie" by Ribbons	Mar 9th, 2006 04:39:29 PM
When I say that Kinberg and Rothman (consciously) allowed us to think that the "revised" script they were referring to changed a great deal of the plot that was leaked on this site while actually referring to setting, dialogue, or more mundane and/or specific plot details, I mean that this way, if any of us did catch wise to the fact that everything from Moriarty's "open letter" was still in the movie and confronted them about the disparity between what they said would happen in the movie and what actually happened in the movie, they could respond with "well we said we'd changed certain things, we just didn't say what." And with that simple sentence, the raised expectations of fans' are entirely their own fault. It's not Tom Rothman's problem that you thought he was talking about something else! So yeah. It's a way to raise expectations and abdicate yourself from any responsibility to the fans at the same time, basically, and it's chickenshit. But whattaya gonna do?
Word by Ribbons	Mar 9th, 2006 05:19:52 PM
Halle was definitely going for some sort of accent in the first film. Don't know whose idea that was, but it was a bad one. As incongruous as it makes her performance, speaking in her natural accent for these past two movies was a good call.
For the first time... by lindyboy	Mar 9th, 2006 07:01:27 PM
I'm optimistic. The full trailer looks far better than the teaser. As always, I am grateful to the fan nation on AICN for pointing out the inconsistencies witht the books, as much as I am grateful to the film's fans for understanding the books and films don't always translate well. All this said, my complaints are the usual well covered nit picks (No Collosus and Kitty realtionship? Why not?)...but then, as with the rest of the X-Men franchise, these are neglible and I will see this opening night. See you there.
All comments by fall_out	Mar 9th, 2006 09:18:52 PM
First tim on the talk back. I just have to say, I have read through all of the comments and I have to add something. I just watched the trailers from the other X movies. This one blows all away. I hear you complaining about costumes and storylines, but comics and films are different mediums. A comic book is highly stylized and film and makeup can't always replicate that. Look at Hellboy as close as it was it was not perfect. As for storylines, studios, directors and producers look at what creates drama. Does the true storyline create drama? No, not always. But does Bobby cheating on Rogue? Yes, it does. And for the love of Pete, give Ratner a chance. Because if my memory serves me correct, Singer turned Wolverine into a wimp, Cyclops into a cry baby, and Storn into a non-existant character. If you want to agruee storlines look at what Singer destroyed. He took a great mythology and ruined it. I have great fear for Superman because I feel he will destroy another strong set mythology. If this upsets you I apologize but the first two movies, while I enjoy them, already destroyed the mythology created. And let us not forget X-men did not start the comics to film tren but Blade did, and there is another mytholgy destroyed, Blade was a human in the comics. Give Ratner and the film a chance. I don't know why I just said that because I know damn well that all of us will see the movie at least once if not more. I do agree Fox is fucking themselves by not making more but then again if they choose that they are stupid and someone else, if not Marvel will buy the rights and make more films.
Planty McTroll? by Ribbons	Mar 9th, 2006 10:04:54 PM
So... in one breath you talk about how it's impossible for comic book movies to remain exactly like their written inspirations, and in the next complain about the mythology that Singer "destroyed." Umm, here's a hint: most people don't think he made Wolverine into a "wimp," nor Cyclops a "crybaby." They both cried a grand total of once over the span of two movies. And if you can't even stomach that much bawling then you might as well stay away from this movie, considering Wolverine's pretty much guaranteed to shed a few more tears (maybe Ratner will make them into "manly" tears...). Oh, and speaking of non-existant characters, it'll be pretty hard to salvage Cyclops' reputation as a tough guy considering he probably bites it within the first ten minutes. Oh yeah, and Ratner's not responsible for any of that, by the way. If you wanna give credit where it's due, talk to Matthew Vaughn, Zak Penn and Simon Kinberg. They're the ones who wrote that "Six-Day Draft" upon which most of this story will be based. I'm sorry, but all of you people who want us to "give the movie a chance" based on what you like about it aren't doing yourselves any favors by talking about how much Singer's incarnations sucked (and hey, guess what?! In a new interview with EW, Ratner talks about how he tried to stick as close to "hack" Singer and Co.'s version of the X-Universe as possible! Ain't it cool?). And if my opinion is just a spit in the desert, well, then, so be it, though I doubt it is. It's not like people just arbitrarily chose to admire Singer because he was there.
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The Grammer (no, not Kelsey) by SumDood	Mar 10th, 2006 03:29:13 PM
The dialog they give Magneto... HORRIBLE! We're suppose to believe that a super-intelligent, highly-sophisticated person would say "who will you stand with?" instead of "with whom will you stand?"? This movie is going to blow if they can't even get that right.
Killing off characters-STOP BITCHING by sundaycall	Mar 12th, 2006 08:16:07 PM
I must be the only person that thinks the decisions being taken with this movie are good decisions. I am not a fan of the comic-or any comic-I don't read them- I am a movie fan. I realise that fans of the comic books are incredibly attached to these characters and there have been protests..."Cyclops hasn't been given a chance to shine...don't kill him off yet" and "Xavier can't die...he's the force behind the X-Men". But I feel this direction makes for a more interesting and ambitious story, and here's why. If Cyclops does if fact die, and at Jean's hands no less, then that severs her connection to the X-men in the most traumatic way, it opens up a much more interesting path for the character to follow onscreen, it will drive her transformation if handled properly, her major turning point, it's got to seriously fcuk her up-we don't want her just to whip around and say to Magneto "I'll do whatever you ask". Secondly if Prof. X does die then the team's leader is taken out of the equation-Xavier is the beacon for this group, he has stood for diplomacy and understanding in the previous films, so if Xavier were to stay in the picture it would be implausible that this "Last Stand" against Magneto's army (WHICH WE ARE ALL DYING TO FUCKING WITNESS) would really be allowed to happen. With X dead, the team has to stand on their own, and it provides the opportunity to show what happens when diplomacy is taken out of the picture and what an X-Men backlash is really like, especially with someone like Logan leading the way (a progression for his character that could be awesome, I feel). I don't think fans want a big mindless action movie, they want something with weight, something that demands your investment in the characters, a real epic fucking struggle that lives up to the comics legacy, and if this is to be the concluding film, and Ratner and his team are expected to up the ante, then major events like this were going to be necessary for the story to progress and this installment to avoid the dreaded
AND ANOTHER THING!!! by sundaycall	Mar 12th, 2006 08:39:55 PM
All this hoo-ha about the cure angle in the movie, this is a fucking inspired direction IMHO, especially if it's handled properly, and here's why. Look at the previous movies, all this talk about "afraid to go to school as a child", "We shouldn't have to look like everyone else", "I can't touch anyone", "You are a god among insects" etc etc etc. All these points of view about what it means to be different, to be a mutant and frankly the single best element that could be introduced that would allow for character development all round the fucking place is the simple question-IF YOU COULD CHANGE, AND BE NORMAL, WOULD YOU?? Look at what sort of areas they're exploring from the trailer alone-Rogues perspective now that Bobby is with Kitty, Beast's dilemna when he meets Leech, and especially Mystic's-who throughout the movies has been RATHER FUCKING MIXED about her condition(see above quotes). Remember when everyone applauded those little character moments between Mystic and Magneto in X2 ("We love what you've done with your hair")well what are the implications of her alledged decision and her relationship with magneto? How does it affect him?? How does it affect everyone-JESUS IT LEAVES ENDLESS POTENTIAL FOR CHARACTER AND RELATIONSHIP DEVELOPMENT BETWEEN THESE PEOPLE-isn't that what we should all want from this movie. How it's portrayed and handled is one thing but it must be good that the cure angle opens up so many intresting possibilities....DOESN'T IT??? I rest.....
some explainations for no nightcrawler, sentinels etc.. by JudasIscariot	Mar 21st, 2006 07:47:35 PM
so i dunno if this has been brought up yet but theres alot of answers given in the new xmen 3 game coming out for the xbox 360. the storyline for the game (which was written by claremont) includes nightcrawler, wolverine and iceman as its main and only playable characters. now they basiically did what those twin tards the whatcrapski brothers did for the matrix films. the video game shows what happens from when X2 ends and X3 begins. it answers why (in the story anyways): nightcrawler no longer shows up, why the sentinals arent in X3. and (i dunno how or mainly WHY) lady deathstrike survives after being pumped by woverine. hehe... also it has iceman not iced up from head to toe but at least sliding around on his ice bridge while fighting a huge flame serpent at a nuclear power plant... aight thats it im out.
AWWW I REMEMBER HOW FUCKIN TITE THIS TRAILER WAS by supercowbell 4 cant stop the cowbell	Jun 17th, 2007 04:43:15 AM
then the movie sucked fuckin dick

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