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DEEP SPACE NINE affiliate stand-offs (some resolved - update 10-2 @ 8:15pm)

Why can't they cancel Voyager!? by John McLame	Sep 29th, 1998 09:47:31 PM
They better not take DS9 off the air in L.A. Does that make any sense!? All the goons from the show live here!! ANd that station is Paramount owned, & the show does better than most on that station in the ratings. THis must be some bullshit... I do wish they'd cancel VOyager though! Kill the whole crew in a finale already!!!
KCOP aint the only one! by gunny	Sep 29th, 1998 10:39:17 PM
This is happening here in SE Texas also. KFDM-TV, our local CBS affiliate, decide to drop Ds9 from its schedule for its last season. This is the only local station that broadcast Ds9. When I contacted the programming director, the reason given was that "Deep Space Nine failed to hit with out advertisers". Instead, they're going to show "Walker:Texas Ranger" reruns.The e-mail address is JoBailey@kfdm.com. If you live in the area(or not) and are as pissed off as I am, give 'em a piece of your mind
R.Swift/Deep Space 9 by zephead64	Sep 29th, 1998 10:46:35 PM
I agree, R. Swift could VERY WELL be a jerk. But who cares what the unintelligent think(or DONT think). The point is is that the TV station would be pretty lame to pull the show in it's LAST season anyway. What would they gain? Despite what "ratings numbers" may or may not indicate,the show is VERY popular with the fans(and there are MANY) and viewership will be very much on the up in this last season. The station would be foolish to dump it. Besides,what "better" show would they replace it with, something like the new Love Boat??
DS9 In L.A. by Logan	Sep 29th, 1998 11:04:00 PM
Why pick on Robert Swift? Isn't he entitled to his opinion? He has valid points, especially about Voyager, and the upcoming Trek film, which just might suck. Who knows? DS9 is an acceptable show to me. Not great. The Orginal Trek, and TNG were the best treks. DS9 however is pretty good. It's voyager that's the worst thing ever. DS9 has some interesting characters, and as Swift pointed out, actually has writers, who a few times a year do good scripts. "The Visitor" was probably the best episode of the series. The recent one where Sisko was a 50's SF writer was also good. But, the point of all this is the sneaky way KCOP has been doing this. They've not said a word. If they wanted to dump the show, they should have made that clear months ago, so another local station could pick it up in time for season 7's start. Now, if they are dumping it, it may be months before a local station picks up and can find space for it in their schedule. So, this is really about KCOP 13's typically immoral behavior. Remember last year when they dumped the final 4 B5's eps from season 4 on a Sunday morning 6:00 AM time slot, just becuase they were upset that TNT got season 5? Plus, KCOP is downright incompetent. How often to they have technical problems? Seems like all the time. Plus, they have Tawny Little doing the news. Oh, and how about that great Wild Animals show they had up against Seinfeld on Thursday nights. What genius that was. Oh, and to the previous poster, yeah they are showing UPN's Love Boat series, on Friday nights at 9:00 against Fox's Millennium. Gee, I'm going to be torn as to which to watch. KCOP is a joke. If you want to make a point to them, protest in front of their station. Burn effigys of Tawny Little. Organize at KCOP at the corner of LaBrea and Melrose. (Just a few blocks down from Paramount studios. Oh, and Pink's Hotdog stand is near by. Great dogs.) Logan
he just doesn't get it... by ZepHead	Sep 30th, 1998 12:53:24 AM
Mr. Swift feels that his ravings are something that we might appreciate. Maybe,maybe not. DS9 is obviously way over his head. Just because the Space Station doesn't travel around the Universe "exploring strange new worlds" & seeking out new "hot" green alien babes,doesn't make it a bad show. I personally LOVED TNG and the original series as well. But all four series CAN co-exist. They are supposed to be different. DS9 is an extremely well written and very political drama. Voyager is trying to bring back the 'adventure and action' aspect of Star Trek that the original series first explored and TNG carried further. I get the idea that Mr. Swift isn't a full fledged Star Trek fan anyway(just my impression). Most big fans of the show(s) are pretty open-minded about the different approaches to plots and story lines that all 4 series take. Many general TV viewers can appreciate an action series more easily than something more esoteric and (dare I say)intellectual. As for'Voyager', the show is continually getting better(TNG was pretty lame in it's first couple seasons)and deserves more open-mindedness that those who won't let go of TNG. Things have to evolve and change in order to survive. ACCEPT IT BEFORE IT DESTROYS YOU ALL!!!! series take in
Robert Swift's right! by Logan	Sep 30th, 1998 01:43:49 AM
The last message by Mr. Swift, won me over. I can't find anything there to disagree with. To those that think DS9 is intellectual, what are you smoking? Come on. I do like some of the characters on that show. Avery Brooks is a great actor, usually not free to show his stuff sadly. Dax was great. Nog is a joke. Who's idea was that to make that character the most unbelieveable ensign in the fleet? I agree with Swift's view of Berman. (Berman does not know anything about writing.) And Voyager is a joke. That is the worst Sci-fi crap ever on TV. To those who say, give it a chance to get better -- uh you know it's about to air it's 100 episode. I think it's had more than a chance to improve. TNG was really good by the 3rd season. It seems to me that people in the Trek Cult just worship anything with the name Trek on it. That's sad, and pathetic at the same time. Some of those people need to be deprogrammed before they end up on some Rancho Santa Fe Heaven's Gate away team, drapped in a purple shroud. If you want real intellectual SF watch Babylon 5, or even better yet, read a book. But anyway, the real point of this thread is suposed to be about how incompetent Ch. 13 KCOP in L.A. is. Let's not forget they are a TV station full of morons.
DS9 1st season by Nr 1	Sep 30th, 1998 02:54:03 AM
Robert: You stopped watching DS9 after the first season? Then please allow me to ask how you can judge the show and especially the characters just by that? IMHO DS9 is the best Trek series so far. This is mostly due to the characters, main and even more so supporting, which are much more deep and complicated than most TNG Characters. If you would actually take the time to familiarize yourself with the whole story, instead of just the abysmal first season, then you would see the wisdom of my words. Voyager had some good episodes (Real Life, for example, in which the doctor creates a family for himself). But as a whole it is troubled by a lack of focus and bad writing, but maybe Brannon Braga will change that.
The Worst Thing About Star Trek by DwDunphy	Sep 30th, 1998 05:09:00 AM
My problem with the two surviving Treks is that I just don't care. All I have is unremitting apathy for both storylines. On news that one was being cancelled and the other was equally reviled, I feel nothing; no need to defend. This ain't a good sign, people. Judge for yourself.
VOY was cancelled here, and DS9 was moved to 11:30! by Dr. Watson	Sep 30th, 1998 05:31:49 AM
Here in Des Moines we are used to getting trek 5 times a week, Mondays is TNG, Tuesdays is new DS9, Wed. is new Voyager, Thursday is old DS9 and so is Friday. Out of the blue thye are stopping TNG, they cancelled Voyager and have moved all Trek, including new DS9 episodes to 11:30. I've had to start taping them. Now we have "classic" (before season 3, and everything before season 3 sucked IMHO. I don't even watch TV anymore. To add insult to injury, KDSM Fox 17, the station that used to boldy advertise about it's 9:00 "Trek Time" has replaced it with...(shudders)...Judge Judy! I kid you not. Instead of an hour of trek, every night we get two half hour shows of Judge Judy. Hand me the gun.
Well, LA doesn't have a football team either by Diane	Sep 30th, 1998 05:46:20 AM
Why should we be surprised.
Deep Space Nine by MediaRiot	Sep 30th, 1998 06:56:10 AM
Whoa! I'm always amazed at how high passions run with regards to the DS9 versus VOYAGER argument. While not a huge fan of either show, I do tend to lean towards VOYAGER because it hews closer to the original series mission "to seek out new life and boldly go where no (hu)man (or woman) has gone before." DS9 has always been crippled by the static quality of having to return to that ugly space donut near the wormhole, it's first three seasons hampered by havig the action always coming to them. While the Dominion war has added some interesting moments, it hasn't really added life to the show. The actors remain gifted but hampered by dreary moral dilemmas from week to week and the Dominion have not evolved into an enemy to take seriously. (Now the Klingons and Romulans in ST:TOS, now THOSE were bad guys!) That said, I feel that the markets which have chosen to suspend airing of the show's last season are making a grave error. DS9 may not be as provocative as Babylon 5 and that show's take on interstellar war, or as derivative of its progenitor as VOYAGER is, but it has attempted to tell a mildly involving story in a long narrative form. I mean, I want to see how the war ends, dont you? To cancel now would be to cause the severest case of pyschological blue-balls ever. Talk about coitus interuptus. Whether you love or hate DS9, I think all fans of the Star Trek universe and quality SF television should badger KCOP and other stations to keep air the last season. It's the logical thing to do.
DS9 by Gareth	Sep 30th, 1998 07:35:57 AM
You are all so lucky to have even seen season six, over here in the UK it hasn't even been shown yet and will start on satellite in a few weeks time - unless you buy the videos with two episodes per tape that are released every 3 to 5 weeks. How many times do you need to see repeats of TNG?. When did they stop making it? Move on to something new. It is a classic series but has anyone heard of overkill?
All Star Trek kind of sucks by Bishop	Sep 30th, 1998 08:07:25 AM
Don't get me wrong, I love Star Trek in all it's incarnations, but if you look at the four series in an objective way, one would be amazed that it's survived 30 plus years. I mean, none of the concepts are really truly thought out very well. Their economic policy makes no senses. I mean if there is no money for humans, then how does the Senior Staff afford to eat at Quark's all the time? How come they wear the same uniforms wiether or not they are attacking the dominion in the jungle, or having a funeral for Judzia? Why if there are 95 planets in the federation, 95% of starfleet are white males form the former United States. The problem with Star Trek has always been that they have tried to stick with Gene Roddenberry's Utopian vision, no matter how innane it seems. If the people in charge stopped for a second and took a better look at Gene's idea, they would realize that he had good start, but not everything he thought of was perfect. As far as the four series go, any body could easily bash any of the series, and they'd be right. Star Trek, though very entertaining, has hardly been the epic saga that fans have proclaimed it me. Oh, and what's the deal with every reoccurring character who dies having such shitty death scenes (save Spock). I mean Yar killed by Blobo the Tar pit Monster, Dax get's zapped, and Kirk getting the Goat ass death of them all, falling off a cliff, and for his his herioc final words they make him say "It... was fun, wasn't it." Talk about no respect. Soap Opera's do a better job of killing characters than ST, and they do it three times a week.
No sympathy, you should live in VT by chriscub	Sep 30th, 1998 08:25:44 AM
I have no sympathy for people bellyaching about losing access to any Star Trek series. Wah. Too freakin' bad. For the entire run of the Next Generation, central Vermont had no station that would even run Classic Trek, let alone the new series. 20 miles north or 20 miles south of us, Trek was to be had in abundance, stripped, 5 days a week. We, on the other hand, had to rely for 7 LOOOONG years on tapes from generous friends in the city of Boston. Serves L.A. right. Maybe once -- finally -- the rest of the world will get something entertainment-oriented before you. Plus, to be honest, it's not really all that crucial that people view the series when it's broadcast. Paramount will be spinning these episodes onto videotape before long -- this direct-to-video subscription method which I argue, would have been the perfect way to market and distribute the post-Next Generation series. You'll get to see these episodes eventually. They'll be preserved for posterity's sake for years and years to come. One side comment: I did catch that ST:DS9 episode where Sisko's a 50's "sciffy" writer for a pulp magazine. What a steaming heap of crap! A trite racism story set against a cheap green/grey backdrop. Whatever. Get back to the war. Get back to that mascaraed, lip-sticked glam-warrior first officer Kira. During the first few episodes, once she started wearing the high-heeled boots and caking on the face-paint, I knew the series was in for trouble. 7 of 9 was not the first Trek female to be tarted up for a ratings grab. I haven't been able to watch a DS9 scene with Kira in it without snickering since. I agree with Robert, Rick Berman should meet an untimely end. He's screwed the Star Trek franchise beyond redemption. He was ultimately responsible for those horrendous Next Generation cliff-hangers/incomprehensible nonsense which closed and began each season following "Best of Both Worlds." Lay it all at Berman's feet. The man was simply NOT a worthy successor to Roddenberry. Not by a mile.
Considering Swift's only seen the first season... by Etrigan	Sep 30th, 1998 08:48:48 AM
I think his judgements are pretty fair. (Not to mention the fact that all he did was say he didn't like the series-not insult anyone. He didn't get a very mature response...)I thought DS9 was pretty weak until maybe the middle of the fifth season, and I used to really hate the crew, whereas now I like most of them. I still hate Odo except in rare circumstances and all the Ferengi in starfleet suck. But Avery Brooks kicks ass. His speech is better than Shatner's, in my opinion. As for Voyager, I know it doesn't need to be said by anyone else, but who doesn't enjoy bashing it? I hate this damn show. If you want a boring, pointless cast, here they are. I don't care about any of those people(especially Neelix, though-damn, he's annoying). Well, I take that back-I did care about Kes(and maybe the doctor), but she left the show and was replaced by 7 of 9. Adding a borg to the cast could have been an interesting move...if she hadn't just been an excuse to inject some sex into the show. And for my last pointless comment, I'd like to point out that except in isolated episodes, none of the series are really 'intellectual', except possibly the original, which is that sort of pseudo-intellectual that all science fiction from the 60's had. Arguing over which is more intelligent is kind of silly because they all follow the same pattern of one or two "thought provoking" shows interspersed with character development episodes that have goofy plots.
No Decision as of 9:15 AM PST by Barnabruce	Sep 30th, 1998 09:18:06 AM
I just spoke to an operator at KCOP. She confirms that no decision has been reached yet.
Have to agree with Robert Swift by Neal Klein	Sep 30th, 1998 09:54:20 AM
What is amazing is how quickly people leap to the defense of Star Trek when Robert stated from the outset his reasons for not liking the show, one being unappealing and dark characters. As if he was doing it to be spiteful or mean. Not so. I gave DS9 a chance through the first 5 seasons. Some episodes were brilliant, some were drivel, and some showed that there were real problems in the writers knowing what direction the show was actually going. But as I could intellectually grasp that the show had improved over time, the show had lost me emotionally. In fact, an analysis of the last 2-3 years will show that the show has in fact improved in many areas. I haven't tuned into it once and not been entertained. But emotionally, I don't care for the characters like I did on TNG and TOS or (taking a risk mentioning this) Babylon 5. And I tried. I really tried. I can't comment on ST:V'ger. My opinion would reveal real bias and anger (except for Jeri Ryan --- she's good for that show in more ways than looks). I just get the feeling that many stations, UPN or otherwise, are getting the same feeling about ST programming. Wouldn't you want to omit a show from your program schedule if it wasn't grabbing the audience? Robert Swift was not flaming or trolling or anything. He was voicing his opinion in a humorous way. Bravo on his expressiveness. He didn't trash actors or stories for nitpicks. And he didn't get ridiculous in his defending remarks. Bravo!
DS9 in N. IL by pmm217	Sep 30th, 1998 11:41:03 AM
DS9 has been airing here in the rockford DeKalb area on F0X39 (WQRF) in Monday nights at 9pm. Now they seemed to have moved it back to midnight, but last Monday they showed a 2-year old rerun! I was wondering if anyone knew what what up with the Fox affiliate. I love DS9 and don't want to have to wait until Saturday when WGN shows it at 4pm.
Saturday at 9 by JR	Sep 30th, 1998 11:55:13 AM
TV listings in the LA Times, published three days ago, have the season premiere running on KCOP Saturday at 9 p.m.
UPN44 San Francisco/San Jose isn't running Season 7, either by Brian Kendig	Sep 30th, 1998 01:15:51 PM
The UPN affiliate here in Silicon Valley also isn't carrying Season 7 of DS9, due to "unforseen circumstances": http://www.upn44.com/sci_fi/de ep9/content.htm
UPN silicon valley by Ron Gross	Sep 30th, 1998 02:56:22 PM
The notice on the KBHK 44 site (local UPN) does not look like they have a choice in the matter. It could just be covering their ass, but they try pretty hard to make is sound like they are as upset about not being able to show season 7 as fans might be. Kind of curious.
DS9 by startrek	Sep 30th, 1998 03:17:01 PM
Out of all the shows DS9 has been the best and I'm glad that in IL I'll be able to see it to the end barring that WGN doesn't screw me over by showing some pointless Cubs game.
Now if only it would be canceled here!! by MisterE	Sep 30th, 1998 03:22:08 PM
Congrats to LA on "losing" BS9. I wish that I was so lucky here in Huntsville, AL. It was canceled (I think) for a short time last season, but they brought it back. Oh, well, only 1 more season to go, anyway. Now, if only Voyager would start up here again. That would make me happy. Hell, I would be willing to tune in for DS9 if they would give me my Voyager in return.
KCOP Decision Due Later Tonight by Bruce Padgett	Sep 30th, 1998 04:31:51 PM
I just spoke again (4:30 PST) with an operator at KCOP. She informed me that a decision regarding DS9 will be made this evening.
After reading all of this... by Toweled Avenger	Sep 30th, 1998 06:00:02 PM
Who are you people?
DS9 by Screwed in the bay	Sep 30th, 1998 10:17:06 PM
I don't know about L.A. but UPN 44 in the San Francisco area says that it is not carrying the new Deep Space 9 season until future notice. They give some crap line about negotiations and the decision being beyond their control, when they really mean that they are cheap bastards and are waiting for Paramount to lower their price.
KBHK not airing DS9 season 7(!) - something REALLY might up here by chad	Oct 1st, 1998 12:10:09 AM
Having just moved from San Jose (KBHK territory) it would REALLY suprise me if they decided to drop DS9 on their own. For instance they always ran both DS9 and B5 in prime time on both Thursdays and Sundays... and even advertised the last 5 eps of B5 season 4 as the last chance to catch B5 on broadcast, etc... this is just TOO strange. Unless something changed up there in the last year or so it just dosen't seem like them to just STOP running new eps of DS9. - Chad
Why none of the ST series are particularly good... by DkPhoenix	Oct 1st, 1998 12:29:19 PM
Okay, this isn't just a troll post, so read what I have to say before you make conclusions. I've never really liked any of the ST series for three reasons - 1) Sex. Every single series has to have some sort of sexual deal in it - short skirts, Kirk making out with alien chicks, don't get me started on NG, DS9 with Kira and seven trillion sexual relationships (Bashir and Quark pining after Dax, Dax and Worf, Odo and Kira, Sisko and Cassidy, Bashir and Leta... need I go on?), 7o9 - it's overwhelming. I mean, a little sex is good, but that much is outright stupid. 2) No storyline. None of the series (ex. possibly DS9) have had anykind of continuous storyline. It's just a hodgepoge of adventures set on a string. If I wanted that, I could watch much better shows (esp. in writing). I think that the series' would do much better to adopt a B5 format - maybe not as intense, but with a somewhat central storyline. 3) Archetypal Characters. All of the characters have very shallow, very predictable personallities - especially after watching a show for several years. Or even several episodes. Not one person's personality seems to be very well developed. I knew exacty how Kirk would die in Generations half an hour into it, even though I had never seen it before. I knew Kes would be leaving Voyager as soon as I saw the trailers. I figured Dax would die, but that was because she had more storyline and personallity than most other characters. And in every show you can find similar characters - the serious non-human person (Spock, Data, Odo, Doctor); the womanizer (Kirk, Riker, Paris); the over-worked engineer (Scotty, Geordi, O'Brian, Torres). Several more connections can be made. This isn't to say I haven't enjoyed the ST group of series - they have provided major entertainment in a genre that seems sadly lacking in good shows. However, there is much that could be done better in the entire series, and eliminating, or at least lessening these three problems could help greatly. Episodes such as the Racism episode on DS9 will always exist - filler shows are like commercials, there's nothing you can do about them. But for everything else - the ST series needs a face lift. Oh, and Neelix must die. That fricken Talaxian has pissed me off from day 1. DIE NEELIX DIE!!!! Ahem, uh.. sorry. The Dark Phoenix
Season 7 Picked Up! by Bruce Padgett	Oct 1st, 1998 01:12:13 PM
Just spoke to an operator at KCOP--Season 7 WILL be broadcast starting this Saturday! Glen, I couldn't link to your message site--sorry!
DS9 still not renewed Evinrude? by david	Oct 1st, 1998 05:27:41 PM
Are you serious or are you trolling? Just curious cause you didn't put your e-mail down...that always makes me suspicious! First I hear it's been renewed and then I hear it's not! ARGH!!!
DS9 in the SF bay area by Mage	Oct 1st, 1998 05:38:09 PM
To add fuel to the bay area DS9 fire, there was an article in the Contra Costa Times this morning that states "The renewal contract has not been confirmed with Paramount TV" The KBHK publicist also added "We've been the ST franchise for this market for years, so this is a nightmare for us". She also said it was unclear whether the station would carry the new episodes at all this season. From the looks of it, Paramount is holding things up for some reason, which I think is strange given that SF/Silicon valley is a huge SF market.
DS9 needs realism and better stories by Amruo Rei	Oct 1st, 1998 07:55:35 PM
I believe that DS9 is a piece of Sci-fi junk and can give a crap for its' final season. DS9 needs a grip on Physics and military science. Remember the eps. where a Fed fleet had to take on a Dominion fleet twice it's size (the Feds were also awaiting a Klingon fleet)? All the Fed ships had to do was to get the Defiant past the Dominion to DS9. only the Defiant survived. That's the WORST military campaign I've heard of since Gallipoli (in WW1). Too much of the series has loosely structured technology that doesn't make sense and is there only to take the easy way out. At least we have Babylon 5... Get rid of the Star Trek franchise, and give us something that doesn't slap SF fans in the head. If one wants to watch a good SF series, go watch B5 or Mobile Suit Gundam. They do SF fans honor.
SF Bay Area - No DS9 tonight by The Saint	Oct 1st, 1998 10:37:43 PM
Or I should say, no new DS9... at 8:00 and 9:00, they showed a repeat of "The Emissary"... at 10:00, they showed ST:TNG. It looks pretty grim here, and I don't think UPN-44 is to blame. Take a look at the alt.tv.star-trek.ds9 newsgroup... it appears to be happening at affiliates all over the nation, all at the last second. The question is: Is your market next?
KNTV (San Jose, Calif) & DS9 by Charles Capps	Oct 2nd, 1998 12:36:48 AM
Just looked in their programming grid. Guess what? No DS9 eppies. No new ones anyway. Looks like they dropped it as well. The SF Bay Area is now DS9-less. -- Charles Capps
updated (from COAXIAL) by coaxial	Oct 2nd, 1998 06:36:11 AM
Glen here...have updated the main DS9 article to include a message from the SanFran affiliate not showing DS9. And, a reader in Mini/St.Paul just messaged me saying DS9 isn't on there either. That reader's message isalso reflected in article's current update.Glen
My Apologies! by Bruce Padgett	Oct 2nd, 1998 07:58:09 AM
Sorry about my erroneous post yesterday that DS9 had been renewed in L.A. I had spoken to the male receptionist mentioned in a later post. For what it's worth, he was very rude as well!
Deep Space Nine in Chicago by Dolby1000	Oct 2nd, 1998 08:40:06 AM
I just checked WGN's web site and called their programming department. He insisted that Images in the Sand (Season 7 premire) will air as scheduld tomorrow (Sat.) at 4:00 PM. He asked why I was checking, and I told him the basics of what is posted here, that other stations pulled it at the last minute. I did not get into the why's since that part is still not confirmed. Has anyone seen it? Can we confirm a station that did air it? I will post here sometime late Saturday (when I get home) and check my tape to see if it really aired. Now I'm quite curious to see what happens. I'll leave the discussion as to the quality of DS9 others.
DS9 TIME INFORMATION FOR L.A by Maniac	Oct 2nd, 1998 09:17:51 AM
FOR ANYONE WHO CARES A LOCAL THE TV GUIDE FOR THE LA TIMES SHOWS THAT SEASON 7 OF DS9 WILL BE SHOWN ON SATURDAY AT 8:00pm WITH A ENCORE SHOWING ON SATURDAY AT 10:00pm
DS:9 in dispute in Portland, OR by David Wohlford	Oct 2nd, 1998 09:59:56 AM
I called KPTV12 in Portland. They, too, are in contract disputes over DS:9's 7th season. In place of the premiere Thursday night they ran a season 6 episode. They had no idea when the dispute would be settled.
Re: Good News From KCOP 13 (incorrect? from COAXIAL) by coaxial	Oct 2nd, 1998 11:34:39 AM
Glen here...at 1:30pm CST OCT 2. I just talked to my people at KCOP UPN-13 and they say NO decision has been made, and that new DS9 definitely WON'T be aired this particular weekend. I don't know what Ms. Stone was talking about in her reply from the previous poster, but the information she passed on seems incorrect. By the way, the SanFran and L.A. problems are related. Same station owners. Not sure about the other parts of the country. DO NOT GIVE UP!!!Glen
DS9's Fate by clint	Oct 2nd, 1998 03:12:34 PM
I was a little apprehensive when I heard the news that some stations in CA were not airing DS9. I'm in Phoenix, and so far it will be aired this Sunday. It usually is aired twice, so i'm willing to tape it for the first person that emails me (given that its not against the law) at ca_hill@msn.com. All you need to do is provide me with the tape and postage. I hope that if the same were to happen in Phoenix that someone would do it for me. I love that show. And, to all the people that are apparently taking great joy in DS9 fans' misery: If you don't like the show, watch something else. There are many more channels and 23 more hours in a day to watch whatever you want. Just because you don't like it, no one else should be able to enjoy it? Besides, this forum isn't for opinions on the show - it's to keep people informed.
DS9 back in St.Paul, Minn. area by Matt Kohnke	Oct 2nd, 1998 04:13:54 PM
At www.kmsp.com there is a short little message saying that the new episodes of DS9 will start on Saturday, October 3 at 6:00 P.M. on the same channel, UPN 9. Talk about great news for all the Star Trek fans in the area. Matt
No news still from UPN44 (KBHK) in SF by carlos	Oct 2nd, 1998 06:31:12 PM
I've been like crazy looking for an answer from UPN44 here in SF about airing the last season of DS-9. There is no way to reach them by phone as you must know an extension or leave a message (absurd). Their web page, www.upn44.com is still saying the "due to unforseen circumstances..." stuff. I have no clue about what's going on with KBHK, as other UPN stations as L.A, Portland and the Twin Cities already have the DS-9 new season on their schedule. Does anybody knows what's happening?. It's KBHK the only station in the US not airing the new DS-9?. Help!!! I read that L.A. and SF are the same UPN people. Does it means that they will follow the good news?
So I guess we are alone... by carlos	Oct 2nd, 1998 09:29:27 PM
My last reasearch indicates that, at the moment, San Francisco is the only UPN station unable to resolve the dispute with Paramount regarding DS-9 last season. Not only we have to live with generally speaking low quality Television here in the bay area, but also have to face how good shows go out of the air without previous notice. You can say what you want in defense of UPN44 here in SF, but the way they are handling the situation seems pretty bad. Why the other stations managed to resolve the issue, and we are here still watching old re-runs and full of uncertainties? I am not quite familiar with the TV industry, but UPN 44 is damaging its relationship with DS9 fans here in SF. The last thing you should do, is take a program out of the air without previous notice just to presure Paramount. The message is clear: They don't care about its customers because they put their interests over ours. That's a very bad way to do business and now or later they are going to pay for it in some manner. UPN44 the same as other stations, failed. They should have run the program against all ods or, at least, tell us with anticipation about their plans. Now I feel betrayed by them and that's going to take a lot to change. UPN44: Customers are first-first-first. keep your customers happy and you will do business forever. It is better to take a monetary loss or bend your proud sometimes if your customers are in between. You're handling this situation wrong. Do your job before it's to late. First the 49ers, now DS9. What's next?. What's wrong with this city?
DS9--->No San Fran...but Sonoma County? by Splasherino	Oct 4th, 1998 11:38:38 PM
TV 50 in Santa Rosa, CA., about 40 miles north of S.F., usually only carries repeats of TNG and DS9 but 8pm Sunday night, finally caught the premiere episode...don't know if they have the new UPN contract or not...they're independent, not a network affiliate, but I don't think they'd have the resources to pay the fees for such a show...
DS9 did air here by Dolby1000	Oct 5th, 1998 07:26:10 AM
DS9's premiere did air in Chicago. I only knew that after a friend here taped since my cable went out 40 minutes prior to the show and stayed out until about 5 minutes after it ended. Suffice to say my cable company is hearing from me, and that I'll be a lot less polite than Mr. Swiff's comments posted here. It was a typical DS9 episode. Odo talks to Kira; Nog, Worf, Obrien and Bashir talk; The Sisko's talk, An Admiral talks with Kira; Obrien, Bashir and Quark talk; the idiot hologram pretending to be popular sings again (James Darron?), more talk between Siskos; followed by yet more scenes of talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk. This had to be the talkiest (?) season premire of any Science Fiction show in history. Those who haven't seen it, didn't miss a thing. It appears the real action starts next week.
Just threaten them with photon torpedos! by Wolfpack	Jun 4th, 2006 10:46:18 AM

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