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Guess Who Is About To Walk Into Peter Parker's Life Now!!!! SPIDER-MAN 3 News!

Does Mary Jane die then? by SpikeZoft	Jan 18th, 2006 05:43:30 PM
first?
Since I know that Kirsten Dunst wants Mary Jane to die by SpikeZoft	Jan 18th, 2006 05:44:40 PM
Which would make for a pretty cool reverse parallel to the comics. I was hoping this would be Venom news though. Still cool, but not the actual pics of characters like I hoped.
awesome by charlesgrodinsux	Jan 18th, 2006 05:47:05 PM
I'm officially excited now. I am totally infactuated with Bryce-Dallas
They cast a blonde as MJ and a redhead as Gwen...makes sense... by superhero	Jan 18th, 2006 05:48:50 PM
Will she be fucking Norman Osborne in the movies like she did in the comics...
She looks much more like Mary Jane than Gwen Stacy... by Angry Mean Panda	Jan 18th, 2006 05:51:46 PM
Also, Gwen Stacy is a fucking whore. Is she going to have Norman Osborne's kids in this movie like in the comic?
mmmm Bryce by Lando Griffin	Jan 18th, 2006 05:53:14 PM
this is good news although, like others, I had my hopes set on Grace/Venom/villain news
Bottom Line: When will we see the 3-way?? by krullboy	Jan 18th, 2006 05:53:26 PM

They better not fuck this up by chrth	Jan 18th, 2006 05:54:31 PM
Seriously. They should've went with Gwen from the beginning: first movie, Doc Ock is the baddy, Captain Stacy is killed. Second movie, Green Goblin is the baddy, Gwen Stacy is killed. It would've been so easy to pull off. They're cowards, COWARDS I say. ... But they better kill her. And it needs to maybe be Spidey's fault.
Kind of Ironic by Macstone	Jan 18th, 2006 05:54:44 PM
Does anyone else think that it's kind of ironic that Kirsten (a blond) colored her hair red for the MJ part. Now Bryce, (a red-head) is coloring her hair to play the blonde Gwen Stacy. Just thought it's kind of funny.
???? by quadrupletree	Jan 18th, 2006 05:55:11 PM
So who are the villans?
I wonder if GG2 will drop her off the bridge? by Rindain	Jan 18th, 2006 05:57:48 PM
I know the GG bridge scene in the first movie was supposed to foreshadow this.
another nail in the coffin of this franchise by Tony Mike Hall	Jan 18th, 2006 05:57:54 PM
Now they're going to fuck up the Gwen arc. Fucking wonderful. What a tragedy - this entire franchise has been an abomination.
I just jizzed myself... by KAWS	Jan 18th, 2006 05:58:02 PM
I'm loving this idea, backwards yes, but still--its about damn time, you know this to be true.
Yawn by Heckles	Jan 18th, 2006 05:58:24 PM
Why is having Gwen Stacy cool again? The skirt has been teats up for what, a quarter of a century? Big wooop on a stick.
You can always tell the losers by chrth	Jan 18th, 2006 06:00:26 PM
The death of Gwen Stacy is one of the most important moments in comic book history; there's a reason there's an entire comic dedicated to it in Marvels.
Harry, thanks to the Babylon 5 guy, Gwen's a cheatin' wh by Tall_Boy	Jan 18th, 2006 06:01:57 PM
Wonder if Rammi will have Gwen going down on some Goblin cock like JMS did.
Too bad the kids won't know how it really went down now by SpikeZoft	Jan 18th, 2006 06:03:43 PM
All these kids'll grow up on the Spidey movies and not know about the real Gwen Stacy stories - the ones that basically defined Spider-man's motivation and story up until the whole Clone Saga and The Other storylines.
Spider-Ass 3 Will Own Your Man... by Kubla_Khan	Jan 18th, 2006 06:07:18 PM
....or something. Had to chime in on this, cos boy do I love me some Spidey. Gotta love Raimi, he loves throwing shit at Peter Parker 'til it piles up real high, and I reckon this is a very cool move. Is it me though, or does the actress look a little like that chick from Sex And The City? (Not that I know anything about Sex And The City of course...I'm fucking well hard.) But anyway, bringing in Gwen is genius. Raimi and Avi Arad know what they're doing, I have total faith, and I really hope that the rumours are true about 3 and 4 being shot back to back. The decisions that were made in 2 were all spot on for a fanboy like me. Brw, I'd really love just one shot where Spidey has web under his arms, just for the hell of it. And finally...don't kill MJ, I'm totally into Kirsten Dunst. I say, get the chicks together! Make it Spiderman: 3way. Ah, how quickly fanboys leave valid points behind and descend into wank fantasies...
great... but by marcode	Jan 18th, 2006 06:07:55 PM
why post a picture of Reba Mcentire?
Awesome... by El Scorcho	Jan 18th, 2006 06:08:30 PM
Cool news indeed. Congrats on the scoop, Harry.
Oh man, I SOOOOOO knew this was gonna happen!!! by Annamaria	Jan 18th, 2006 06:08:49 PM
Ever since Spidey 1, I've always wanted to have Gwen Stacey in the movies, cause I'm more of a Gwen fan than an MJ fan... and when Kirsten Dunst said she didn't want to do more than 3 movies, and Tobey was a little iffy on more too, I thought, well they should introduce Gwen in the third, and then if Kirsten leaves, instead of recasting and ruining the role, have her die or just leave or something, and you'll have Gwen ready to go in the fourth!!! AND NOW IT WILL HAPPEN!!!! THANK YOU SAM RAIMI!!!!!!!! but please God NO, don't follow the insane storyline with her and Norman that was just retarded... yea, it kinda pissed me off that her most famous scene in the comics (her death) was already used for MJ, and on the Spidey 2 DVD they said they basically combined MJ and Gwen into one character for MJ, so it does leave the question "what's left of Gwen that the real Gwen can be?"... but I trust Raimi, if he's been working on this script for the past year then it can't be bad... on a side note - I grew up with the Spidey movies (and X-Men, Superman, Batman, etc), but if your someone like me and from just watching the movie you get really attached, you'll research all this stuff, cause I've never picked up comic book in my life, and I know a hell of a lot just from reading shit online... and it's a great feeling to be almost on the same level as the fans who grew up with the comics, cause I don't feel like such an idiot when I'm around them...
Yeah, 'Sins Past' was a pretty horrible sodomy job on th by Silver_Joo	Jan 18th, 2006 06:08:59 PM
I like Bryce Dallas Howard though. She's worth saving and if they do kill off Mary Jane, what a movie this could be.
I seriously thought this was going to be whether Toph was Venom by vinceklortho	Jan 18th, 2006 06:10:36 PM
But, it seems that bastard keeps dragging us along with this. Please, just post a pic of Topher as Eddie Brock for god's sake!!! Anyway, interesting news with this one. I love me Bryce...good casting choice. There could be too much going on with this movie already, which makes me slightly nervous but somewhat still psyched because Sam knows what he's doing.
sacred text? by nicky	Jan 18th, 2006 06:10:50 PM
as a long time Spidey fanatic and a somewhat less enthusiastic appreciator of the movies - this makes no sense to me. Mary Jane came 2nd for a lot of reasons, and her incarnation in the movies is sort of a combo of MJ, Gwen and Liz Allen from the old comics anyway. In my mind, the classic moment in Spider-man history was the death of Gwen's father years before... a police captain who always seemed on the verge of arresting Spider-Man or discovering his identity... who ends up revealing, in his last breath, that he knew who Peter was all along and now trusts him with his only daughter. At that moment, Peter loses a potential father and friend, but the tragedy of the loss is lightened by the knowledge that Gwen is still alive... though darkened again when she blames Spider-man for killing her father. After that, her death always seemed like overkill to me... leaving an impossibly scarred hero that could never return to the mix of wisecracking and angst we all love about the character. Maybe Raimi will do the Death of Cap Stacy thing, but there's no way it can ever be the same now that MJ is already there and she (along with half the city) has already seen Peter unmasked.
LEAVE OUT GREEN GOBLIN by jimmy_009	Jan 18th, 2006 06:11:06 PM
What part of "Green Goblin was the absolute worst part of the first movie" don't they understand?
The Gwen Stacy news is very exciting, but something very weird i by Prof.Ikamono	Jan 18th, 2006 06:14:10 PM
For a while, whenever I tried to click on anything at AICN, I got redirected to a blank white page with just this message: "The portal to the Phanton Zone is closed. Nothing to see here - Bizarro Doc" this lasted for at least an hour or so. I notified the webmaster but have not yet heard back. And now that everything's back to normal I see no sign that anybody else was effected. Does anybody know what the fuck happened?
I love betty brandt by Funk4America	Jan 18th, 2006 06:23:40 PM
I do. and I look just like Buddy Holly, and she's Mary Tyler Moore
Why the fuck hasn't Jeff Goldblum been cast yet? by Canada's King	Jan 18th, 2006 06:23:43 PM
But Spider-Man 3 is becoming pretty convoluted plot-wise, they'll have to make this one longer than the other two. We have Peter + MJ, Peter + Gwen, Gwen vs MJ vs Peter (inevitable), Spidey vs Identity revealed, Spidey vs Sandman, Spidey vs Venom (probably), Peter vs Daily Bugle and then an entire arc and a half involving Harry Osborne not to mention the shenanigans Aunt Mae will get herself into. This is easily the biggest film of the next two years - much more than Superman Returns - and after Spider-Man 2, people will be expecting a bigger, better, longer film. Damn I hope Raimi hits this one outta the park, but I hope he knows how to handle the dreaded third film in a trilogy - AND find a way to include Bruce Campbell somewhere...
the sign by LeckoManiac	Jan 18th, 2006 06:24:08 PM
was originally back when the "zone" talkback got started a while ago...I have no idea why it returned
At this rate by Ardee-El	Jan 18th, 2006 06:24:26 PM
Parker's going to end up with Betty Brant in the final movie. I've said it before: Betty Brant should've been the main girl in the first movie, with Gwen Stacy a background role, moving up to center stage in the second movie, and Mary Jane an oft-referred-to-but never seen character who makes a va-va-va-voom entrance in the third movie. Ah well...
WHY THE FUCK ISN'T SHE MARY JANE???!!! Bryce is simply gorg by R.C. the "Wise"	Jan 18th, 2006 06:29:50 PM
Fuck Sam!
Canada's King, you're right... by vinceklortho	Jan 18th, 2006 06:31:31 PM
This new news is mixing a ton of shit for this movie. My friend's roommate is working on the villans for the movie here in LA and he said that it's Sandman, Venom, AND the Hobgoblin. And, we all know about the third movie in a trilogy. Has there been one that has dusted the fuck out of the first two? Ever? Well, Return of the King...Revenge of the Sith....anything else, nerds? I'm trying to think here.....
Kirsten Dunst...one of the worst casting decisions in Spider-Man by Doom II	Jan 18th, 2006 06:32:51 PM
She is COMPLETELY lacking the sex appeal that Mary Jane needs. This Gwen decision seems like a good one. Her eyes are the shit. Hopefully the new Green Goblin will be a MAN IN A GOBLIN SUIT with f/x MAKEUP...NOT plastic green armor. Just a thought. Oh yeah, will Toby McGuire stop being a whiney little bitch in Spider-Man 3?
GWEN!!! Robogeek rejoices. by robogeek.com	Jan 18th, 2006 06:34:21 PM
This is great news. And it would be among the greatest, gutsiest, coolest moves ever in a film franchise if they pulled a "What If?" reversal, killed M.J., and let Peter and Gwen live happily ever after instead. I would worship everyone involved for all time.
Seriously though, man Ron Howard...you did great work. I mean l by R.C. the "Wise"	Jan 18th, 2006 06:36:44 PM
Kudos...ps. Fuck Sam Raimi that lucky mother fucker has done a satifactory job. If it wasn't for America's yearning for Spidey, his work would be horrindous. (Spelling??)
Fuck I'm wasted. Happy hour was BIG! by R.C. the "Wise"	Jan 18th, 2006 06:39:02 PM

shit, I got wasted just reading that!! by vinceklortho	Jan 18th, 2006 06:49:05 PM

Finally Sam Raimi admits he fucked up when he ignored Gwen Stacy by Rant Breath	Jan 18th, 2006 06:50:21 PM
Now if only he can admit he fucked up when he ignored MECHANICAL WEBSHOOTERS. And to anyone says webshooters is a dead horse FUCK OFF! Gwen Stacy was a dead horse too.
HOLY SHIT this is fucking awesome by mikey mike	Jan 18th, 2006 06:52:09 PM
and yeah ms. howard should have played M.J. but she works as gwen too. man this movie will kick so much ass. many thanx mr. knowles
I wish Bryce Howard looked a little more like Clint Howard... by JethroBodine	Jan 18th, 2006 06:53:45 PM
...like Kirsten Dunst does.
This Disappoints Me by twitaman	Jan 18th, 2006 06:55:23 PM
I have to admit I
Making Bryce Howard blonde will be almost as unfortunate as what by FluffyUnbound	Jan 18th, 2006 07:00:43 PM
Let's pretend that in the Raimiverse Gwen Stacy is a redhead. Is that a plan?
Sam Raimi has casting dyslexia by Rant Breath	Jan 18th, 2006 07:03:37 PM
He cast Mary Jane(Bryce Howard) as Gwen Stacy, Gwen Stacy(Dunst) as Mary Jane, and he cast the ideal Spider-man(Topher Grace) as some other character. Tobey Maguire has proven he doesnt know how to play Peter Parker or Spider-man. Unless Peter Parker and Spider-man are supposed to be mouth-breathing retards. If that's the case Maguire is note perfect.
Dunst's MJ is pretty meh by superninja	Jan 18th, 2006 07:05:28 PM
Dunst morphed MJ into a depressing schlump, so this is good news. Good actress, great character! I doubt MJ will die - just go away to pursue her acting career long enough for Gwen to take a dirtnap. Then MJ will be back, hopefully with improved posture and attitude.
Topher Grace as Spider-Man by twitaman	Jan 18th, 2006 07:08:37 PM
I never thought about it until Rant Breath mentioned it, but now that I've heard it that sounds like it would've been a great idea. Why? Because even though I think Tobey is a great actor there's one crucial part of Spider-Man's character that I never thought he could handle well. And that's Spidey's sense of humor. The guy was a smart ass and that's one of the reasons I loved him as a kid. Jokes and quips fall flat out of Maquire's mouth. But I could totally see Topher handling that side of Spidey's personality easily. In addition, Grace is also a fine actor and could handle the dramatic parts too. Well, too bad he wasn't a bigger star when they cast the first film.
What this movie needs is an appearance by the Rhino. by superninja	Jan 18th, 2006 07:10:32 PM
Also, Spider-Man is supposed to be FUNNY, Raimi. F-U-N-N-Y!
twitaman by superninja	Jan 18th, 2006 07:12:11 PM
Spider-Man isn't written funny in either of the two films. It seems Raimi forgot about that part of that character, which is pretty obvious when you think of it. Maguire can handle humor, Raimi is too caught up in angst. Hopefully to be rectified in the next movie.
I also demand a Human Torch cameo (the best part of the FF film) by superninja	Jan 18th, 2006 07:13:09 PM
and an appearance by Spidey's Van.
AWESOME!!! by Nairb The Movie	Jan 18th, 2006 07:13:37 PM
That's what I would be saying if these movies were any good... except for that whole part where they aren't. In fact... they suck very much. The worst superhero films ever made. Whose going to do the main song for this film? My Chemical Romance, I suppose. Angst filled, whinny, nonsensical, horribly casted, terrible camera work, piles of crap. Excellent casting... Too bad they didn't plan this ahead. They're just winging it and that equals convolution...
Spider-Man 3: TOO MANY CHARACTERS! by Lance Rock	Jan 18th, 2006 07:13:59 PM
Let's see, we got: Spidey, Mary Jane, Harry Osborn, Sandman, Venom, and now Gwen Stacy?!? I'm starting to get a sinking feeling about this one.
You can have a lot of characters. by superninja	Jan 18th, 2006 07:20:24 PM
But that means the filmmaker has to trust the audience and not write a backstory or explain everything. For instance, who cares about Sandman's origins if you are familiar enough with the whole concept at this point?
What?!!! Reba McIntire is going to play Gwen Stacey? by Negative Man	Jan 18th, 2006 07:30:19 PM
And no offense to those head-over-heels with Bryce, but she is far from 'all that'. Cute and attractive, but a prime example on how fame makes a person more attractive. If most of us passed her on the street and she wasn't an actress, we'd see her as pretty or cute...heck, maybe even pretty cute...but because of her fame many consider her 'hot' or 'gorgeous'.
The Spider-man movies are so fucked up by AlwaysThere	Jan 18th, 2006 07:31:12 PM
They went from a great comic and cartoon, to two horribly overrated and insanely budgeted movies full of silly lines and acting. Truly a disappointing series of movies.
The Spider-man movies are so fucked up by AlwaysThere	Jan 18th, 2006 07:31:12 PM
They went from a great comic and cartoon, to two horribly overrated and insanely budgeted movies full of silly lines and acting. Truly a disappointing series of movies.
And a thing to remember about lots of characters by Bass Ackwards	Jan 18th, 2006 07:31:34 PM
Yes, there are many, but most are already established from the previous movies, so the groundwork is already done, really we're only getting 3 new characters. Its not like X3 where the entire comic history is being crammed into one film, there are a lot of characters cause there have been two films that have done the work to earn that many characters by this point.
Good casting by Ribbons	Jan 18th, 2006 07:31:56 PM
Bryce Dallas Howard is a good ac-tress, plus she's purty, plus she just seems to give off the right vibe. I don't know what they have planned for the character, but at least they got a good actor for the job.
My prediction by Immortal_Fish	Jan 18th, 2006 07:37:29 PM
Mary Jane dies and Gwen becomes the Black Cat. If not now, then in another sequel. So much for any fans of 4-color Felicia. BTW, I'd like to be wrong.
Who The Hell Is Casting The SPIDERMAN Pictures!!! by Eh-Nam	Jan 18th, 2006 07:38:45 PM
First they Cast Ugly Ass Dunst For Mary Jane(what the hell) and Know this chick whoo is at least better looking than that Snagletooth crosseyed Dunst but still what the Hell!!!!!!
Immortal_Fish by Prof.Ikamono	Jan 18th, 2006 07:42:13 PM
I can see why you'd like to be wrong, that idea is almost as dumb as having Gwen come back after she dies as a clone, and then for Peter to find out he'd been cloned and that the clone was actually the original and that he was the clone, and ... oh.
Doc? by Prof.Ikamono	Jan 18th, 2006 07:47:09 PM
If you're reading this, I'd still like to know what the hell happened earlier, it's really starting to seem like it only happened to me. I hope you can see how that would freak someone out.
Hot damn.... by Archduke_Chocula	Jan 18th, 2006 07:59:26 PM
It would be interesting for Sam to switch the roles for the imminent death of Peter's loved one. I really got no problem with it, I just view the movies as another series of the character, ala ultimate Spider-Man and those other series that aren't "Amazing Spider-Man". It is very funny how if you switched Dunst and Howard you'd have had it perfect from the getgo...I can't wait to see what fun Sam Raimi has with The Sandman in terms of action.
Perfect plan for future Spidey movies... by Annamaria	Jan 18th, 2006 08:10:54 PM
Prof.Ikamono, thanks for reminding me... the best way to solve everyone's casting problems is to do the whole clone thing, have Topher as the Clone Spidey, let him kick Tobey's ass, and there's our new and improved Spiderman! that might work out pretty well... I mean, Topher's part IS "unknown" at the moment, so who knows? It could really be that he is playing Clone Spidey... (in my dreams)
Ass backwards on 2 levels by Mr. Profit	Jan 18th, 2006 08:13:01 PM
One because wasnt James Cameron intent on doing Spiderman 1, but was turned down because he wanted to make the first movie about Gwen Stacy? Two because they cast an ugly blonde to play the beautiful Mary Jane. Now they pick an ugly red head to play the beautiful Gwen Stacy. What gives? What homo is casting Spiderman? Why cant they get beautiful actresses? Was Rachel McAdams or Scarlett Johanssen unavailable? What the fuck?
I hope it doesn't suffer from bloat by twitaman	Jan 18th, 2006 08:14:42 PM
Once again, I hope they don't try to do too much in this next movie with all these characters. To be honest I'm getting sick of 2.5 - 3 hour summer flicks that are overstuffed and filled with crap better suited for DVD extras. Please Raimi, be kind to our butts! Learn a lesson from Kong.
I'm seriousley conflicted on this news. by Shermdawg	Jan 18th, 2006 08:18:28 PM
Story at 11.
harry by algram	Jan 18th, 2006 08:19:10 PM
I started reading the Ebert Blog and came across this great article: http://rogerebert.suntimes.com /apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20 060112/SCANNERS/60112002 then I found this really cool article, and I have to say that I completely agree with it. Of course opinions are subjective, but the ridiculous praise that Harry seems to give to certain movies is just sad, I also didn
Also, Old School Lohan would have been perfect for Mary Jane. Do by Mr. Profit	Jan 18th, 2006 08:21:09 PM
Seriously Spidey 3 needed to stat off by recasting Mary Jane. Kirsten Dunst used to look cute but then she got so fucking ugly. In Spidey 2 the part at the diner when the car hurls through the glass, her face is Cameron Diaz baggy and she looks like she needs a Rembrandt whitening for her crooked ass teeth.
Ideally... by dimnix	Jan 18th, 2006 08:24:24 PM
...they woulda done Gwen in the first film, and Bryce Dallas Howard looks like pretty good casting so lets say they used her. She's in the MJ character. And following the comics, she gets dropped from the bridge and dies. MJ comes in in spidey 2 or 3... but not played by dunst. Maybe Scarlett Johansson sporting the red hair. But, oh well. What's done is done.
HECK YES!!!! by Sakurai	Jan 18th, 2006 08:29:12 PM
Bryce Howard was amazing in the villige. I am really excited about this one.
Don't know the comics, but this works for me if they're by chickychow	Jan 18th, 2006 08:34:08 PM
I was so unexcited when KD was cast and I've felt assaulted by her unappealing presence in both films. I want her to die in the first 10 minutes, which A) thankfully gets rid of her B) gives Peter Parker an intriguing arc and C)allows them to introduce their new, and more talented, love interest. All for it. (now if we can just get rid of Topher Grace...)
Sam Raimi has hit the ball out of the park! GREAT casting decis by Ivan_Mtl	Jan 18th, 2006 08:36:41 PM
What a truly inspired choice to play Gwen Stacy. Bryce Howard is as talented as she is beautiful, and I can't think of any other actress in Hollywood that I would prefer to see in the role. Like her comic book counterpart, I am absolutely convinced that she will steal our hearts much like she stole M. Knight's The Village in her big screen debut. Best casting news of 2006. 'Nuff Said
Kirsten only signed for 3 films and would want an 8 figure deal by TJ50	Jan 18th, 2006 08:37:18 PM
Kirsten only originally signed for 3 Spider-Man films and would surely want an 8 figure deal to resign again for 3 more, which I doubt Sony would want to offer, as Tobey will also be demanding an expensive deal for 3 more films.
and how I PRAY that Harry doesnt turn into another fuckin Green by chickychow	Jan 18th, 2006 08:38:02 PM
I'll take a CG Hobgoblin over another Mighty Morphin Power Goblin any fuckin day of this week.
alrgram... by dimnix	Jan 18th, 2006 08:42:07 PM
...what the fuck are you on about? Quint isn't mentioned in either of the two pages you linked to.
@dimnix by algram	Jan 18th, 2006 08:48:18 PM
you
Aww.... I wanted BLACK CAT by IAmLegolas	Jan 18th, 2006 08:48:39 PM
But then again, it would be like Catwoman with Batman all over again and I guess maybe they felt it was a been there, done that sorta of thing (?) But this is kind of weird news since they combined a lot of Gwen Stacy's storyline in the previous movies. Hmm.... but I trust in Raimi and I still dig that the guy from WINGS is playing The Sandman.
Great articles, algram by IAmLegolas	Jan 18th, 2006 08:53:30 PM
But who comes here for Harry and Moriarty? Better reviews and news can be found elsewhere. The fun is in these unruly talkbacks. Oh and Vern. It's all about the Vern.
First of all... by ewokstew	Jan 18th, 2006 08:58:42 PM
Bryce Howrad ain't that pretty. Remember, she has the the same genes in her that spawned Clint Howard. Her looks could go south in a minute. And as far as her being Gwen goes, even worse. You have a girl with that pale, pinkish cast skin, she'll look horrible in blonde hair. Why the heck don't they get Scarlett Jo' to do this?
If Ivan_Mtl isn't a studio plant, then he's a fucking we by Uncooked_Meat	Jan 18th, 2006 08:58:43 PM
"What a truly inspired choice to play Gwen Stacy. Bryce Howard is as talented as she is beautiful, and I can't think of any other actress in Hollywood that I would prefer to see in the role. Like her comic book counterpart, I am absolutely convinced that she will steal our hearts much like she stole M. Knight's The Village in her big screen debut. Best casting news of 2006. 'Nuff Said" Seriously - how planty was that? Weirdest post of the day, and on AICN, that's saying something.
Bryce by algram	Jan 18th, 2006 09:01:29 PM
@Iamlegolas thanx man. Has anyone seen the Dogville sequel she starred in? She looks nice in the Lady in the Water promos, and was the only redeemable thing from the Village, hoping for the best, although I am not a fan of the 1st Spiderman movie, Spiderman 2 rocked with it
"One because wasnt James Cameron intent on doing Spiderman 1" by Bass Ackwards	Jan 18th, 2006 09:05:07 PM
Cameron gave up on the project cause Spidey was caught in a bunch of contract bullshit, and no one could move it into production.
Mr. Profit... by Ribbons	Jan 18th, 2006 09:05:22 PM
...yeah, fuck Bryce Dallas Howard and Kirsten Dunst! Those dogs! Get Scarlett Johansson and Lindsay Lohan to play Gwen Stacy and Mary Jane! Um, thanks, but no thanks.
Yeah, they should have done a Black Cat seducing Peter storyline by performingmonkey	Jan 18th, 2006 09:08:59 PM
Or maybe they're going to totally screw with everything and combine Gwen with Black Cat. I don't think Mary-Jane is going to die at the end of this like people are predicting. It would be the big suckass end to everything and Peter would have no motivation 'cause she's dead. If Dunst is leaving then I think MJ will just decide that she has to move away from Peter. Maybe Peter kills Harry and she sees it. I like the idea of them kind of replacing MJ with Gwen. Hell, she could even go her own redhead. But, of course, Gwen may die. I actually think this will be the last movie, then there'll be a string of straight to DVD shitfests featuring all the fuckass villains that didn't make it to the big screen. Just to please the fanboys. If Raimi ain't doing it, I ain't watching it. And I can't see him going beyond the trilogy. Maybe in this one Harry will have a knife at Aunt May's throat and this will force Peter to kill him.
Next movie I wanna see the Sinister Six! It will be the most exp by Flim Springfield	Jan 18th, 2006 09:10:37 PM

I always thought GG2 was called Hob Goblin. by J-Dizzle	Jan 18th, 2006 09:22:08 PM
Or did those Spiderman cartoons misinform me?
2 Green Goblins and one Hobgoblin by Bass Ackwards	Jan 18th, 2006 09:29:22 PM
At least two GGs of importance, Norman and Harry (3 if you want to count Bart Hamilton). Hobgoblin is a related, but separate villain from the Green Goblins though.
umm... not to tell you how to make a movie... by Kauzi Sezso	Jan 18th, 2006 09:30:32 PM
but is there a plot?
Heres how I would have setup the first 2 flicks. by Shermdawg	Jan 18th, 2006 09:31:21 PM
MOVIE 1: Nothing but origin, you meet Pete, The Parkers, The Osborns, and Gwen. MJ is the Chloe to Pete's Clark Kent. Ben is killedl, Pete stops a hostage crisis of some kind, everything ends on a high note. MOVIE 2: Harry on drugs, Norman on Goblin Juice, Gwen in a casket, Petes head crying on MJ's shoulder. Ends on a downer. Nuff said. Nuff said.
BTW, I love the casting of Bryce, but I think that they've a by Shermdawg	Jan 18th, 2006 09:34:55 PM

Scarlett Johansson as the Gwen Stacey Clone! by Kauzi Sezso	Jan 18th, 2006 09:38:46 PM
...just a thought.
Johannsson is too busy doing artsy films and The Island 2: Maybe by Terry_1978	Jan 18th, 2006 09:39:39 PM
Scarlett is too "above" this trifle.
Why Not? by The Only Woj	Jan 18th, 2006 09:43:47 PM
Why not recast Bryce as MJ and dump Kirsten 'The Troll' Dunst?
I woulda figured she'd make a better Vicki Vale in Batman by xXMr_BoJaNgLeSXx	Jan 18th, 2006 10:10:39 PM
Shows where my head's at. Good call though for Raimi, though.
I just had a vision by bib fortuna	Jan 18th, 2006 10:30:53 PM
of Mr. Freeze, Poison Ivy and Bane.. . Three villains and a new main character? I hope hope hope he pulls it off.
ok... by s0nicdeathmonkey	Jan 18th, 2006 10:38:21 PM
i love gwen stacy but that howard girl just isnt very attractive. at least in that pic. and hell, i even go for red heads!
I hope it's a lot more Spiderman 2 than Spiderman by The Wrong Guy	Jan 18th, 2006 10:44:23 PM
The original film was about as mediocre as you could get. The second was rousing entertainment- funny and exciting, though still hampered by some god-awful dialogue. They fix the dialogue up, and keep everything else on par or even better than 2, than all will be well.
Would love to have seen Allison Mack as Gwen Stacey by Jack_Bauer	Jan 18th, 2006 11:00:26 PM
^^
heres how it should go by puter1803	Jan 18th, 2006 11:07:27 PM
somehow get to a situation where both mj and gwen have to be saved, probably on a bridge like the first movie alluded to, and make it to where gwen does in fact die bc spidey decides to go after mj first, after all this build up of gwen kinda falling ga ga for peter and peter dealing with staying true to mj so we kinda feel sorry for gwen. thatd have some impact u think? maybe not have it till the end of 4. or maybe have that whole situation reversed with mj and gwen. hell i dunno.
Does this mean he's cheating on MJ? by Chief Redcock	Jan 18th, 2006 11:16:40 PM
or at least considering the possibility? Doesn't seem very heroic...
i take that back. the girl IS pretty. it was just a bad photo. by s0nicdeathmonkey	Jan 18th, 2006 11:23:44 PM

All these new characters... by Logo Lou	Jan 18th, 2006 11:30:37 PM
kinda made sense when it was rumored they were gonna shoot 3 & 4 at the same time. Could it still be the case?
About 3 AND 4... by dr_dreadlocks	Jan 18th, 2006 11:34:13 PM
Shooting those films back to back would be such a monstrous endeavor that there would be a lot of heat around the idea. Considering that Sony would have to pony up 400 million dollars to get things moving, I don't think it'd happen without a shitload of press. I think they're just shooting 3 for now... but who knows?
Good & bad news... by Mattchew	Jan 18th, 2006 11:37:25 PM
Ya gotta love Gwen Stacey, and it doesn
An interesting 'spin' on the spiderman franchise then... by Ridge	Jan 18th, 2006 11:39:36 PM
Would be to kill Mary Jane in the movie series and have Gwen carry on? I mean aren't we all a little sick of Dunst now?
PS: My opinion on perfect casting for Gwen... by Mattchew	Jan 18th, 2006 11:41:39 PM
While I love the idea of the current casting, I'd love to have seen Kristen Bell (Veronica Mars) play this part. She is PERFECT, but I can more than live with this choice. I think she'll bring way more to the role and Dunst did to MJ (although that last 'go get em tiger' kicked a fare amount of ass).
Holy shit, I don't know what I'm more shocked about, tha by axelfoley	Jan 18th, 2006 11:54:30 PM
The most random news since Lightstormer giving me shit because I don't kiss James "King of the World" Cameron's taint. Excuse me, where is my head at? I dunno where Gwen's going to fit at this point in time. Am I, as a Spidey freak happy she's in.....Well, yeah, but I dunno. Ron Howard's daughter looks like a young Marion Ross, not Gwen Stacy. Second, GG is dead, Peter,MJ and Harry are out of high school. There is no Flash around, again--Where the hell is Gwen going to be finagled into this thing? Is Raimi trying to hard? First Venom? Character's awful. Then Sandman, who I love, and with THC taking on the role it owns all of you. But I hope that Black Cat rumor died with the Denver Bronco's chances of winning the AFC title game. Good luck Raimi, although judging from the solid job you did with the first two, you probably won't need it.
Anyone curious about Howard's redhead status should check ou by Nate Champion	Jan 18th, 2006 11:54:35 PM
Emphasis on the "LAY"... if you know what I mean.
And one more thing.....if I were casting this film, I'd pick by axelfoley	Jan 18th, 2006 11:56:38 PM

Nice job of stretching out the talkback Homewrecker! by Lezbo Milk	Jan 19th, 2006 12:15:33 AM
Jeez.
Or maybe Jack Bauer who did it? Stop with the huge URLS already by Hot Carl	Jan 19th, 2006 12:17:15 AM
Good god man.
Ideal casting for Gwen Stacey would, of course be Scarlett Johan by R.C. the "Wise"	Jan 19th, 2006 12:19:57 AM

How's this for a nitpick? by Aragorn II	Jan 19th, 2006 12:43:52 AM
How will they explain Gwen Stacy's name on the headstone at the end of the first Spider-Man flick? Or is it all much more convoluted than we even imagine??? Mwahahaha!!!
You know, there is a little thing called TinyURL.com... by Ribbons	Jan 19th, 2006 12:44:44 AM

Pretty clever idea plotwise by eg4190	Jan 19th, 2006 12:48:27 AM
If they'd done the Gwen Stacy story in the first movie, all the geeks would know exactly how it was going to end. Plus most of the audience knows Mary Jane as Spidey's girlfriend, but has never heard of Gwen. Now there's an element of unpredictability -- are they still going to kill off Gwen in the movies or switch things around? Nice work.
Recast for the next 3 movies, Peter-Cruise, MJ-Halle Berry, Aunt by performingmonkey	Jan 19th, 2006 12:49:32 AM
Suck it. You know you all would.
I love Brandy Brandt by docfalken	Jan 19th, 2006 12:52:18 AM
oh, sorry. I'm showing my age again. What were you talking about?
YeAHhhh!!!!!!! That is GREAT news! Bryce Howard is very talent by JDanielP	Jan 19th, 2006 12:53:04 AM
Bryce Howard, ...you go, girl.
I LOVED...... by Shermdawg	Jan 19th, 2006 01:58:30 AM
THE VILLAGE!!! Bite me.
Apart from the fact she's a hottie... by dr_buggerlugs	Jan 19th, 2006 02:47:20 AM
...she's a damn good actress and evidently there has to something great in the script to get such a good cast together (for a superhero sequel no less) - and given that Raimi has announced his follow up to Spiderman 3 (the Pratchett adaptation), I get the feeling that if this is his final throw of the Spiderdice, he's aiming to go out in a bit of style. Plus with all these characters, I suspect he's going to try and throw as much shit at Peter Parker as I possibly can in about 2 and a half hours and guess what, we're gonna have a ball watching it....
Having read spiderman for several years... by PurityOfEssence	Jan 19th, 2006 03:18:21 AM
I was not aware that Gwen Stacey was THE MOST beloved character in the history Spiderman. A beloved character to be sure. Sounds good to me, casting seems good. Changing subjects however: Brodester, I have to disagree with you: "VENOM is the character with the most intrigue... VENOM VENOM VENOM VENOM VENOM VENOM VENOM... and possibly carnage! And spidey in the symbiote costume!" Venom can be intriguing at first, I however have a hard time taking that particular character very seriously, Venom in the comics became what is essentially a caricature of himself, the type of character that was so ridiculously over the top as time went on (yes over the top for this medium is hard). To be fair however this is more a product of the shameless over use of this character by Marvel (second only to the exploitation of Wolverine... though I still find Wolverine to be one of my favorite characters, go figure. Fuck, I still have that retarded Wolverine and Venom crossover that they did in the late 90's - god it was awful, but I was a completist, damnit. When you peal away all the crap and look at Wolverine you still have a solid character.) Venom is a mixed bag, if done well he could be interesting, but considering the track record with the handling of the villains in the previous movies: Green Goblin was okay, but I but the design was weak - Doc Ock solid performance, great design, but that movie just fell apart by the end (precious tritium my ass, they use that shit in fucking pistol and rifle sights for fuck's sake so god damn retarded, and to prevent the miniature sun from taking on mass and destroying the city you what dump it in the fucking river, and what it will stop, a self-contained nuclear inferno will be doused by the Hudson. The Pseudo-science in most comic books isn't even that fucking juvenile anymore, god damnit). Anyway, I would like to see Spiderman have the symbiote costume (or at least see the black suit in some form on screen). But as far as Venom being good news, no, I just fear that he will be an awful, awful screen character.
Bryce Howard is nice, but kindof a Butterface. by Walterego	Jan 19th, 2006 03:32:11 AM
I spent The Village thinking about how much she resembled her father. I don't want to put her down, she is a very talented actress, but anyone posting that she is beautiful is seeing something that I just don't. When I glanced at the picture of Bryce above I actually thought it was Cynthia Nixon from Sex & the City. I think you're all faulting Kirsten Dunst because she didn't mirror the MJ you imagined based on your impression of the comic book MJ. For the rest of the world Dunst was great as MJ. She had a real sweetness and tender quality that eclipsed her attractivness. But for a character that is written as a real beauty it will be distracting if they cast someone who is not particularly beautiful, and more of a tomboy. I would rather see any of the actresses mentioned by the posters above instead of Howard. Then again, maybe the casting of Howard indicates that they made sheer likability the priority. Like her father, Howard is the sort of person you'd love as a pal, someone so nice audiences immediately feel sympathy for her, which would make her violent death all the more tragic. If that is how they present her, as a sweet girl who is Peter's object of affection rather than of passion then that could work. Although Allison Hannigan might've been a better choice in that regard (same undeniable likability, but cuter). If they've announced it then there is no changing at this point and nothing to do but wait for the finished product. Maybe they can use all that CGI magic to make her a knockout. That would be a true revolutionary use of CGI, for hollywood to start casting actresses purely on acting ability and then let the CGI make them look like Scarlett Johanssen. They could have one DVD cut where the actress looks skinny and waifish and one where she has the curves bangin. Instead of arguing about her hair colour and the poor actress having to dye it, you just select with your DVD remote what colour her hair is. Click! and Scarlett Johanssen turns into Zhang Zyi. Click! again and she is "old school" Lindsay Lohan. Or Natalie Portman. And all along the actress playing her is a chubby girl with an overbite and a unibrow who graduated top of her class at Juliard. Or a brilliant Shakespearean prodigy who studied acting at the Sorbonne and has a faint moustache, giant mossy clumps of armpithair, and a slight curvature of the spine. Wardrobe costs would be slashed as all she would need to wear is that unitard Andy Serkis wore when playing Gollum and King Kong, but what you see is Angelina Jolie in a wet t-shirt.
I never seen her in a movie by Vern	Jan 19th, 2006 04:27:36 AM
They say she's good. If so, it'll be the first worthwhile thing that no good shiftless rat soup eating motherfucker Ron Howard ever created. And yes, I'm including Happy Days.
Spiderman 3 by emeraldboy	Jan 19th, 2006 04:37:57 AM
With the half a trillion dollars they have from Merrill Lynch. There will be Spidey 4 at some stage. With an all new cast. maybe.
Actually are we sure she's playing Gwen? by dr_buggerlugs	Jan 19th, 2006 04:51:31 AM
She could be playing CARNAGE! YEAH WOW COOL...CARNAGE ROX! SHE'S REALLY GOING TO BE THE BASTARD LOVE CHILD OF THE SYMBIOTE LA LA LA LA LA LA...WHICH IS A SCI FI VERSION OF GLENN CLOSE FROM FATAL ATTRACTION! THEN WE CAN HAVE VENOM VS CARNAGE! WOW, VENOM LIKE ERM...ER...ROX! Or maybe not...
Screw all that other noise by Reverendz	Jan 19th, 2006 05:15:32 AM
The villians should be: Kingpin and electro. Venom is like the Evil Kirk to Spiderman, only marginally interesting and just there for the gore. )))) ))) ))) The Kingpin, on the other hand, is the perfect foil for spidey. He is physically imposing, he is well connected and powerful, he gets away with murder and whatever else he wants by bribing corrupt or scared politicians. Not exactly someone spiderman can just knock out and tie up for the authorities. Electro is his enforcer, powerful but not intelligent.
This is great news, but come on Avi, it's time to reveal who by brokentusk	Jan 19th, 2006 05:56:53 AM
Bryce Howard is a great actress and will probably fit in with the other members of the SPIDER-MAN cast with ease. That said, I think everyone here mainly wants to find out who Topher Grace will be playing in the next film. If everyone wants to know so badly, why keep teasing and being coy, why not just tell us already before the plan backfires and people stop caring?
In terms of plot I hate the idea. Does this make Gwen the "othe by YackBacker	Jan 19th, 2006 05:59:40 AM
Sure it does, look at how far along Mary Jane and Peter have progressed in the first two movies. In pops Gwen and then what? It cheapens the relationship between MJ and Parker and absolutely taints the relationship between Gwen and Peter. I am very disappointed in the fact that they brought Gwen Stacy in now, trash her character and then (SPOLIERIFIC COMIN AT YA) likely kill her off a la the comics, but this time with Green Goblin's son doing the deed (See Spiderman 4, probably). END SPOILER SPECULATION. The whole thing sounds ass-backwards.
Vern by Peven	Jan 19th, 2006 06:00:24 AM
damn, man, you take me to task for being too harsh for calling Tom Clancy a propogandist hack for the GOP, then turn around and claim Ron Howard has never produced anything worthwile in his entire life after calling him a shiftless rat soup eating motherfucker? hypocrisy much?
VinceKlortho by GingerTwit	Jan 19th, 2006 06:13:37 AM
I was wondering if you've watched Ghostbusters with the subtitles turned on. You've spelled your name wrong dude!
Kingpin can't appear in a Spider-Man movie by eg4190	Jan 19th, 2006 06:19:26 AM
It's a contractual thing. I believe different studios own the rights to Daredevil ad Spider-Man, so they came to an arrangement wherein Kingpin can only appear in Daredevil movies.
just like with LOTR by Peven	Jan 19th, 2006 06:23:08 AM
its ironic, so many hardcore fans of the source material for Spiderman and LOTR are the harshest critics and bashers of the cinematic incarnations of the books and comics. makes me glad i am able to enjoy the movies without such baggage to get in the way. maybe those who seem so enraged and distraught would prefer a movie was never made based on their literary/comic favorite? seriously, it isn't as if making some changes during the translation from page to big screen is anything new in movies, so why should it be so shocking now? in the original Jaws book, Hooper gets eaten by the shark, but you don't see people screaming and crying that because he lives in the movie that Jaws just can't be good because Spielberg didn't respect the source material. maybe spidey fans should be more appreciative that a 3rd Spiderman movie is on its way, while fans of other comics and books are still waiting to see their favorites given $200 million budgets for a big screen translation. for some, the glass is always half empty i guess.
GAWD... by Karl Childers	Jan 19th, 2006 06:49:24 AM
If they want to make a correction for these films, they need to quit making Peter Parker such a pussy. How the fuck could he handle another broad to mope over? His character was handled too cheesily in the first two movies being "so in love" with MJ. Fucking ridiculous....and fuck Venom as a character. Somebody said it before, bring in the Sinister Six already. Bring back Doc Ock, and add Rhino, Kraven, Sandman, Electro, and even HobGobby.
I'd just like to point out!! by Shigeru	Jan 19th, 2006 07:23:13 AM
That I called this when there were rumors of a blonde being cast!!!!!
Have Faith! by Sean38	Jan 19th, 2006 07:46:51 AM
Spider-Man 2 is EASILY the best superhero movie ever made (and I'm including The Incredibles) so have a little faith. I, too, was hoping for the Black Cat storyline. It would have dovetailed PERFECTLY into Mary Jane's expression as Peter swung away at the end of 2. How long before worried turns into nagging which turns into, "I don't want you to be Spider-Man anymore." Then along comes Black Cat, a woman who not only accepts Peter as Spider-Man but loves him because he IS Spider-Man. But it looks as if they've decided to go another way. But after Spider-Man 2, Raimi and company have earned my trust. I can't wait.
Huh?... by Wungolioth	Jan 19th, 2006 07:50:23 AM
I'd read somewhere that Raimi's intention with the MJ character was for her to be a combination of MJ and Gwen Stacy from the comics. Doesn't adding Gwen now make it a bit redundant?
Too Much for One film? by w_woody	Jan 19th, 2006 07:52:04 AM
This just seems like adding trying to add to much to one movie. Maybe the rumors of 3 and 4 being filmed simultainiously are true.
Her eyes are so beautiful... by Anna Valerious	Jan 19th, 2006 07:57:41 AM
Of course, this probably leads into another love triangle in the movie series...you had MJ going out with Harry in the first one, MJ almost marrying JJJ's son in the second one, and now it's time for Peter to make her jealous...payback? I do think so.
Hey Peven by YackBacker	Jan 19th, 2006 07:58:37 AM
Hope you're doing well, etc. Ok, now that the pleasantries are out of the way, let's get down to business. I disagree with what you said about fans criticizing the movies. Spider-man has been around for over 40 years now and that's a lot of history the filmakers would be remiss to ignore. Think of it this way, the writers of the comics must be doing something right if the material has worked for so long and so well for so many people. The Gwen Stacy story is an integral part of Peter Parker's growth as a superhero. You can mess with Venom and his pedigree, you can even make Harry Osborn the Hobgoblin for all I care, but Gwen is part of who Peter eventually becomes, a story that is tragic and essential- a story I hope and pray Raimi and company get right. My gripe here is that the context for introducing Gwen Stacy is all wrong now. Gwen was supposed to be Parker's first love, and now that MJ has occcupied that position in the films, Gwen's story (and ultimately Peter's character) are diminished. Does Peter break up with MJ to be with Gwen? Well, my guess is that they are going to go the Ultimate Spider-man route and have Gwen be a close, dear friend of Peters that a symbiote, probably Venom (Carnage in the Ultimate books) kills. This is Bendis' interpretation, and while it is interesting, it is not nearly as monumental as the original story done in Amazing Spider-man. Well, that's it for now, talk to you soon.
Dude I said Old School Lohan, the one from Mean Girls. Not the c by Mr. Profit	Jan 19th, 2006 07:59:15 AM
Who suffers from Coke Overdoses and blames "Exaustion". And I don't see nothing wrong with loving the way Johansson is just as much hot as she is talented.
I don't get it...isn't it too late to bring her in? by minderbinder	Jan 19th, 2006 08:02:17 AM
Spidey's pretty much hooked on MJP at this point, are they going to break them up AGAIN just to shoehorn her in? Plus they already used her death situation in the first movie...but copped out on it, one of a number of really weak spots in the first film. The sequel was great, I'd rather see them keep things simple and just make another solid spidey flick than worry too much about squeezing in too many characters and subplots.
Also agree with the Kristen Bell and Elisha Cuthbert suggestions by Mr. Profit	Jan 19th, 2006 08:05:52 AM
Kristen Bell is cute, charming, and funny. She could have totally played a potential new love interest who charms Spidey and then tragically dies (If that is what they are doing here.) I wonder if Spidey 3 will be like the comics when MJ got jealous that PP was out webslinging and saving people and not paying her attention and spending time with her. If they do that, that could explain why he could start falling for someone new. Still puzzling news though.
Back in the early '90s (I think it was, anyway)... by Kid Z	Jan 19th, 2006 08:11:49 AM
... I was in NYC in the Museum of Natural History, turned a corner, and there, in front of a giant model of a forest floor, was Ron Howard pushing a his red-haired little daughter in a stroller. Of course my redneck (now ex) wife exclaimed loudly, "Hey! It's OPIE!" Christ I was embarassed... hicks... you can't take 'em anywhere! Anyway, Ron was cool, he just grinned and looked at us like he expected us to talk to him. But, I was too damn embarassed and just sort of stupidly saluted him as I suggested to the (now) ex that we go look at dino bones. Whatever, Ron's cool and his daughter grew up real nicely. Life is good!
YUCK-HOWARD IS UGLY by DannyOcean01	Jan 19th, 2006 08:15:51 AM
She is no Gwen Stacy? First a crack whore for MJ and now this minger. Are they trying to make Spiderman the ugliest superhero franchise ever?? And no, this isn't startling news. Where else are they going to get conflict from?
What about the anorexic Russian neighbor? by rev_skarekroe	Jan 19th, 2006 08:22:37 AM
Where's she going to come in?
I'll tell you exactly whats going to happen by GingerTwit	Jan 19th, 2006 08:29:32 AM
MJ is going to die :)
Kirstin Bell...YES by Sean38	Jan 19th, 2006 08:37:14 AM
That's genius. Too bad it's not going to happen.
It IS ironic casting by somethingreal81	Jan 19th, 2006 08:40:41 AM
Not just cause of the hair color switch, but also because Bryce only got her breakout role in The Village after Kirsten Dunst dropped out to do Elizabethtown. Good choice Kirsten! Even more ironic...Ashton Kutcher was originally cast in The Village, but also dropped out b/c of scheduling conflicts. Then he got canned from Elizabethtown cause he can't act his way out of a wet paper bag with a hole in it.
Seems weird that this is the news built up from the Hulk 2 BS ar by HypeEndsHere	Jan 19th, 2006 08:59:56 AM
just sayin'... also, you guys think this girl is hot? weird mother fuckers.
Yack by Peven	Jan 19th, 2006 09:16:47 AM
hey man, long time no see. i understand what you are saying about the movies not adherering to the comic plotline, and thats why someone like me who read some spidey comics as a kid but just here and there is more able to enjoy the movies without having to reconcile original comic canon. still, its just one of those facts-of-life things that when something in print gets adapted for the big screen there are changes made 99% of the time, for various reasons. we haven't seen how Raimi is going to handle Gwen's character yet, but when we do, i'd say THATS when its time to judge how it works within the context of the storyline he has established through 1 and 2. accept the separation between the movies and the comic, and that will allow you to enjoy the movies more.
MJ DID come first by andenu	Jan 19th, 2006 09:42:32 AM
in the comics ... whoever said she didn't - learn your history young man!
Flexo! not to go off topic... by Prof.Ikamono	Jan 19th, 2006 09:44:36 AM
But just like everybody seems to "know" to contact Peter Parker or Clark Kent if they want to get to Spidey or Supes, Let Ben Gibbs aka BendersShinyAss know that I dug his films. Interesting accent, not exactly English is it? Australian? South African?
"Variety's Michael Fleming confirming that Topher Grace is i by irc-Hollywood	Jan 19th, 2006 09:58:59 AM
Holy twisted metal batman!
Hey, She Looks SuperCute To Me! by ZombieSolutions	Jan 19th, 2006 10:07:28 AM
I always loved Gwen Stacy too. Just (platinum) blonde her up and I think she'll do just fine. Both Ms. Howard and Ms. Dunst are lovely, lovely ladies. If you don't agree, perhaps you should do a re-evaluation of your sexual orientation? Tobey Maguire may be more to your taste.
Wait long enough and Charles Nelson Riley will be cast by Drebin	Jan 19th, 2006 10:16:21 AM
I think they're trying to squeeze a bit too much into this thing. It's turning into a Robert Altman film.
Dunst is Undeniably Lovely by Sean38	Jan 19th, 2006 10:21:02 AM
But she's WRONG for Mary Jane. Mary Jane is a sexpot with a heart of gold. She's gorgeous, voluptuous and a little bit dangerous. She just a hint of stripper in her...know what I mean? Someone like Elisza Cuthbert (if you gave her red hair) more closely matches my ideal on screen Mary Jane than Dunst. Scarlett Johannson might also be able to pull off her smoldering sexuality. Dunst just comes off as a little girl. I still love the movies, but that part is miscast.
Malcolm in the Middle kid is the One True Peter Parker. by Borgnine JR	Jan 19th, 2006 10:27:35 AM
You know it in your little web covered hearts.
Yes, technically MJ was in the comics first if it counts... by Prof.Ikamono	Jan 19th, 2006 10:28:59 AM
To be mentioned as "Anna Watson's Neice" in #15, Mentioned by name in #16, "Seen" face obscured in issues 25 and 38. Peter and the rest of us did not meet MJ until she walked in the door and said "Tiger you just hit the jackpot!" in issue 42. Gwen of course was introduced in issue 31. If this doesn't give me geek cred nothing will.
Bryce is beautiful, go google her. by Shermdawg	Jan 19th, 2006 10:31:27 AM
Lord knows I would google that. :P
Sorry about the long url before and thanks for removing it by Jack_Bauer	Jan 19th, 2006 10:35:46 AM
http://tinyurl.com/bau6z theres a short url of Allison Mack, for those suggesting Kristen Bell she is really similar to her.
Sorry Jack_Bauer Bell is cuter. by Mr. Profit	Jan 19th, 2006 10:38:00 AM
But Allison Mack is cute in a nice girl way. Where is she from?
Nevermind.... Smallville. by Mr. Profit	Jan 19th, 2006 10:40:20 AM
Used ol reliable...IMDB.
Since when is film casting based on hair color?! by Kampbell-Kid	Jan 19th, 2006 10:41:25 AM
I love it when the degenerate wastes of space on this planet surface up to post something like "so they cast a blonde as MJ and a red head as Gwen". So? It's called hair dye asshole. lol According to that theory if a film was casting a nappy haired crackwhore every homeless junkie on the street would be up for the part. God forbid we cast someone talented for a part over hair color. Nice call superhero. >.>
"She's gorgeous, voluptuous and a little bit dangerous. She by Shigeru	Jan 19th, 2006 10:44:30 AM
But the problem is she is first and foremost the "girl next door" in the films so far. The sweet girl next door you have a crush on does not have "smoldering sexuality". And yes I'm familiar with the comics before you flame me.
Re:Mr Profit by Jack_Bauer	Jan 19th, 2006 10:44:44 AM
Southern California i think. She's on smallville at the moment and is being criminally underused, frustrating that they always push the less talented kreuk and durance to the fore and Mack is left as a background player.
Christopher Reeve didn't actually have black hair... by Prof.Ikamono	Jan 19th, 2006 10:46:00 AM
and Halle Berry doesn't actually have white hair...yet.
"go with that dude who plays next to Heath Ledger in the fag cow by Kampbell-Kid	Jan 19th, 2006 10:55:24 AM
We'll remind Ang Lee to call you when he starts casting for stereotypes in his new angsty trailer park epic. ;)
by ipfgodfather	Jan 19th, 2006 10:58:51 AM

"go with that dude who plays next to Heath Ledger in the fag cow by Drebin	Jan 19th, 2006 11:07:21 AM
Hehe
UGGGGH!!! by ipfgodfather	Jan 19th, 2006 11:10:08 AM
Could they have chosen a FUGLIER actress for Gwen Stacey??? Since they flipflopped her and MJ's histories to a certain extent in Spidey 1, maybe they can leave her out of PP's lovelife and just be a friend?? Hopefully, he will get with Betty Brandt, Elizabeth Banks is SMOKING hot!!!
Face It Tiger... by Sean38	Jan 19th, 2006 11:17:57 AM
...MJ is a sex pot. Just look at her first ever line in any of the comics. "Face it Tiger, you just hit the jackpot." If those aren't the words of a woman who KNOWS just how much of a babe she is and knows her effect on men, I don't know what are.
On this hair color thing... by Anna Valerious	Jan 19th, 2006 11:23:22 AM
I personally think they're being good about it...unlike Tilda Swinton, who's claiming that 'we don't see enough bad light-haired people in the movies'. Excuse me? Do you even watch movies? Why don't you just admit you refused to dye your hair or wear a wig because you're acting like a complete diva? I mean, she was way better than that lady in the Beeb one, but come on, we all grew up with Pauline Barnes' illustrations, why did she have to screw with it? -end of rant-
Absolutely correct Sean38 by Prof.Ikamono	Jan 19th, 2006 11:27:24 AM
Which is why she went on to become a successful model/actress. Gwen on the other hand had a naive unconsciousness about her own beauty. No less breathtaking, however. Bryce does have that innocent quality, I'm looking forward to seeing what is done with this, Raimi is too much of a fanboy not to know better than to fuck this up.
Sean38 by Shigeru	Jan 19th, 2006 11:31:13 AM
I know it's that way in the comics. It's just not that way in the movies as they presented it. I'm not losing any sleep over it.
Next they'll get Beyonce to play Liz Allen by MrBoinfoint	Jan 19th, 2006 11:34:22 AM
And she'll end up marrying Parker.
Holy shit, it's true! JoBlo.com: Variety's Michael Flemi by brokentusk	Jan 19th, 2006 11:54:28 AM
Now THIS is great news.
I want a movie about CAPTAIN MAR-VELL!!! by Mike Nesmith	Jan 19th, 2006 11:57:21 AM
The Kree-Skrull Wars...everything!
Does Variety say who confirmed that for Fleming? by Big Jim	Jan 19th, 2006 12:00:16 PM

Yea, Variety didn't really confirm anything by Bass Ackwards	Jan 19th, 2006 12:09:37 PM
Just in reporting about Bryce, the guy wrote Church is playing Sandman and Grace is Venom. But he wrote it more like its assumed info to fill in the article about Bryce rather than breaking news, which makes me think he hasn't heard anything new or had something confirmed, just didn't realize that no one has officially said Grace is Venom. Doesn't mean its not true, but it doesn't look like there's any actual new news on that front (though god damn, that Jo-Blo site has the Bryce Howard pic that this site SHOULD be using).
You see, that's just it Kampbell Kid. It IS called hair dye by FluffyUnbound	Jan 19th, 2006 12:11:07 PM
Hair dye blows. You might as well say they could cast Joan Rivers for the part and have her get another face lift. They would be better off declaring MJ a dirty blonde. That would be better than the awful dye job they had Dunst get. And if they want to use this actress, they would be better of declaring Gwen Stacy a redhead, because going redhead to blonde is going to make this girl look horrible. She will probably look even worse than Alba did as a blonde, if that's possible. [I would even have preferred a brunette Invisible Girl to what they actually decided to do.]
Interesting news... by Childe Roland	Jan 19th, 2006 12:32:10 PM
...and it's sparked some really intersting discussion. Please excuse me if I piggy back on anyone's idea from above without properly crediting them, but my head is kind of spinning with possibilities. First, I think it could be a very smart move to reverse the MJ/Gwen roles in Peter's love life. Changing up comic stories for the movies has never bothered me if done thoughtfully and well. They have a chance to do that here. Is Raimi trying to do too much? Maybe. It sure does seem like a lot of familiar "name" characters, who fans are going to want to see developed some, to cram into one movie. But then I look at the list of named characters that will apparently flash on the screen during X3 and I feel like the Spidey 3 roster is still pretty manageable. I agree that Dunst was miscast and pretty much felt so from jump. After seeing her in The Virgin Suicides, I was sure that reports of her playing MJ were erroneous and that she had to be Gwen. Her character from VS was SO Gwen - that tragically distant-yet-desperate to connect perfect little daddy's girl. It would've been inspired to cast her as Gwen and kill her off in the first film. My reservations about Tobey as Spidey were more physical until I actually saw him in the role. Then I knew he was wrong for both Spidey and Peter. He plays both as if muttering his lines through a mouthful of Prozac, and Peter was always played as a smartass, even when he was being pusheed around. That characteristic was just amped to the Nth degree while in costume. I discovered That 70's Show in syndication (pretty much missed it in first run) about the time I saw Spidey 1, and I was telling people then how perfect it would have been to cast Topher Grace as Spidey. He had the perfect physique and personality for high-school Spidey at the time, and could easily train into the shape he'd need to have for more mature Spidey. Plus, after killing off Gwen in the first film, Raimi could've made a play for Laura Prepon as Mary Jane in the sequels. How perfect would that have been? But what is, is. The movies have been pretty darned good despite missed oppportunities. And if Raimi can actually make up for those with this addition to the cast and a well-written plot, I'll be one happy camper with the franchise as a whole. And I say "as a whole" because I will be very surprised if we see a Spidey 4, regardless of how good 3 ends up being or how it does at the box office. I just don't see Tobey coming back.
Why killing Gwen again is a mistake by STL Critic	Jan 19th, 2006 01:15:48 PM
I know Gwendolyn Stacy is doomed to an early death in whatever medium she appears in, but killing Gwen again in Sam Raimi's next Spider-Man picture would be a mistake. Gwen's death had the impact it had not because she was a one issue character, but because she was established. She was one of the ones Peter was supposed to SAVE EVERY TIME. Killing Miss Stacy in the same film that you introduce her would be a waste. Killing Mary Jane Watson, however, would hold the same shock that Gwen's death had in the comics, given that Raimi's MJ is a three film bird. Let's hope Raimi saves Gwen just this once. http://tinyurl.com/e37tm
to Peven by Vern	Jan 19th, 2006 01:27:10 PM
Thanks for the comments bud but I think we are both being a little unfair. On Tom Clancy, I really didn't mean to take you to task, I just thought it was worth giving Clancy some credit for coming out against the Iraq war (since your post implied that he would never write a book against the war - in fact, I think he already co-wrote one). Otherwise I would agree with you because I don't like the guy either. I was just trying to be fair to the dude. And as for Ron Howard, you're right, I was being unfair because I want to give this dude some tough love. Just because he's a nice guy and has been nominated for Oscars doesn't mean we should treat him as a real director. The guy did fuckin EdTV. He did the fucking Grinch. Willow. Gung Ho. Cocoon. His best movie is what, Splash? But the entertainment media treats him like he's in the top tier of respectable directors. But you're right, going that over the top negative on a guy (who is not even the topic of the talkback!) is very Talkbacker. I should be striving for excellence here. So you were right to call me out. I stand by the rat soup eating motherfucker part, though. thanks Peven.
nyu by DeadPanWalking	Jan 19th, 2006 01:31:52 PM
I heard Bryce was pretty pompous and entitled during her acting class days at NYU. Maybe she's nicer now that she's famous. Still, she looks an awful lot like Ron Howard to be cast as an engenue.
Diva's who dont die their hair for a movie role are retarded by Mr. Profit	Jan 19th, 2006 01:43:57 PM
With that ridiculous fucking wig she is sporting in Superfag Returns. Anyhow, I am not nitpicking about hair color, please don't get my earlier post twisted. The hair color comment was an observation. My main critique was based on how fucking ugly they both are. It makes no sense to make a red head with freckles blonde and spackle make up on her face to conceal the freckles. Or cast an ugly blonde girl with Vampire Teeth to be a sexy girl. They should just recast the whole mutherfucker. Start with casting with Heath Ledger's coy boy bottom bitch as Spidey.
*Cow boy by Mr. Profit	Jan 19th, 2006 01:47:46 PM
They should have an edit feature on the talkbacks...
Waitaminnit... by Anna Valerious	Jan 19th, 2006 02:12:16 PM
Casting skinny lil' Eric Forman as Venom is just plain wrong. I've said it many times, go with Henry Rollins. Eddie Brock is someone that looks like they could bench press you on a regular basis. Not, as Red Forman would put it, some skinny dumbass.
She's Opie-licious! by Uncapie	Jan 19th, 2006 03:03:27 PM
Gary, Indiana, Gary, Indiana, Gary, Indiana.
Yes, Anna, but ULTIMATELY... by Sherman_Lives	Jan 19th, 2006 03:12:33 PM
If we're picking and choosing canon (and we clearly are) for source material, there's no reason it can't be Ultimate Venom, who was more parallel to Peter (science project gone wrong) than 616-Venom. I always said it would be a great spin on the neurotic dual existence plot point from the first two films: PP is tired of being the Spider, but who else will? Suddenly, this friendly neighborhood Venom (black SM costume and all) shows up to make life so much easier for Pete! Suddenly Pete has time for MJ and patching things up with Harry... while Venom (Brock) is dating Gwen Stacy (another nice parallel). Venom makes short order of taking out Sandman, while HarryGoblin watches from the shadows. Since Venom is the "new" Spider-Man, HarryGoblin attacks him, kidnapping Gwen Stacy in the process (you see where this is going, kids?) leading to her death on the bridge-- a failure on Venom's part where Spidey succeeded in SM1. Spidey swings back into action to capture HarryGoblin, but that's not enough for Venom, who outright KILLS Harry! At this point, the costume is in charge, its mask contorting into the MacFarlane/Larson-esque toothy, drooling grin we've been waiting the whole film for! And then the REAL fight begins! What do you think, too fanfic? Sam Raimi stopped returning my calls.
fucking DUH: He's going to be more Carnage than Venom. by HypeEndsHere	Jan 19th, 2006 03:17:52 PM

I'd actually pay to see that movie... by Childe Roland	Jan 19th, 2006 03:18:28 PM
...Sherman. Of course, I'll be paying to see Spidey 3, regardless, and Raimi knows that. So there's really no incentive for him to think that carefully about the plot.
Will Spidey's costume have nipples? by Cosmik	Jan 19th, 2006 03:49:16 PM
Too many characters. Is the franchise on its way to its "Batman and Robin"?
Poor choice of broads by JackieJokeman	Jan 19th, 2006 04:10:48 PM
Rami really has poor taste in ladies. Just my opinion. On a side note am I the only one who is a little grossed out by Kirstin Dunst? I cant put my finger on why. I understand that she is a pretty girl, not hot but pretty but still she grosses me out. I think its that she looks just a little sickly, has slightly bad posture, one eye is slightly off. The closest analogy I can give is a package of tasty tasty sliced turkey thats about a day past the sell by date. Its still good but if you get it in your head that its not you can convince yourself that it already has that slimey coat that past date turkey gets. Makes sense? Didnt think so.
I see your point, Sherm. by Anna Valerious	Jan 19th, 2006 04:43:34 PM
I mainly watched the cartoon and didn't know of the cloning from the comics. But, Hank Azaria did make a kickass Venom in the cartoon. :)
Ewwww.... by rivercb	Jan 19th, 2006 05:12:34 PM
It's like having sex with Ron Howard's nutt sack.
Sherman_Lives, "it would be a great spin on the neurotic dual ex by Immortal_Fish	Jan 19th, 2006 05:14:59 PM
Brilliance! But where does Haden fit in? He's the only reason why I can't see things shaping up that way. Earlier, I mentioned that they're likely going to kill off MJ and retain Gwen. Not only because Dunst has mentioned that she's getting tired of the role, but also because I can honestly see Hollowood merging the Gwen and Felicia Hardy characters (which would be a dreadful, missed opprtunity). And you know where that'll lead. I'm willing to bet on it and I'm not even the type to buy raffle or scratch tickets. Here's another prediction, though -- somehow, some way, Topher's going to assume the Spidey mantle in this flick. Not sure how it will happen. Perhaps some retelling of the clone mess. It will happen, though. Willing to paypal a gentleman's bet of $10 on either or both of these predictions. BTW, I still hope I'm rawng, so it would be money well spent!
by Adamlovely	Jan 19th, 2006 05:22:19 PM
Adam would bang both of them with his super sticky retford market webbing. Yeah Jay jay read and weep I like chicks.
by Adamlovely	Jan 19th, 2006 05:25:18 PM
Any chicks like Terminator - got the box set 10 hours of extras ! !
Sherman basically I think explained what SP3 should be but I thi by spectrebeeyatch	Jan 19th, 2006 05:52:06 PM
And all these badies being casted doesn't mean they'll have a lot of screen time in the SP3, I believe they are setting up for more films. Which makes me belive Harry's Goblin will be bad guy behind the scenes until the end, with most of the action going with Sandman. While all this happens they set up Venom for the fourth film.
"megabomb of coolnews" by RonaldLark	Jan 19th, 2006 06:05:04 PM
Ok, can we make geekiness uncool again now? Harry's gushing rant about this stupid and uninteresting morsel was oh-so-pathetic.
Sam Raimi by glodene	Jan 19th, 2006 06:15:00 PM
What is this obsession with casting these bland to but-fucking ugly women in roles that requires a babe. For christsakes Sam, dare to be different and hire one of those (music) video hoochies instead of constantly recycling these tired looking stringy hair would'nt give it a second glanced lookin' trolls, hell, Jenna Jameson would be perfect as either MJ or Gwen Stacy.
Jenna Jameson sounds like a tranny by JackieJokeman	Jan 19th, 2006 06:53:06 PM
Jeannas poor throat has been banged with horse-like hose too much I think. And how the fuck do I know what a tranny sounds like anyway? Damn you Tihijuana!
Bruce Campbell should play Gwen Stacy... by Edward_nygma	Jan 19th, 2006 07:08:52 PM
...he can so do this part. PS, Bryce is so fucking hot!
Follow me! I know the way! by Sherman_Lives	Jan 19th, 2006 07:38:46 PM
Thanks all for the kind words about my crackpot theory. And let me address a couple of comments: 1. Ultimate Venom was NOT a clone, a la 616's Ben Reilly. We do not speak of him. 2. We've only seen one picture of Thomas Haden Church as Sandman, and that could be one of many one-scene villains Venom/Spidey takes on (see also: Ken Watanabe as "Ra's Al Ghul" in Batman Begins). Who knows, we may get all sorts of villains in a crime-fighting montage, and we only know about Sandy! Finally, as far as the killing off of Mary Jane, perhaps this is Raimi & Co's wish fulfillment that Spidey should have always ended up with Gwen (see also: House of M... no, on second thought, don't see that). Or you want a real mindblower? Have Spidey fuck up and let Mary Jane die early in SM3 (see also: Bourne Supremacy) and as a result he drops out of crimefighting just in time for Venom to show up (as a hero like in my previous treatment). Of course, Eddie's concerned girlfriend Gwen doesn't know who can relate to what she's going through, except Peter (for reasons I can't make up right now) and she leaves Eddie for Pete when he Eddie goes psycho. In this version, Gwen lives. Until HarryGoblin shows up in SM4. Peter Parker will be like the Sipowicz of boyfriends. Why doesn't Avi Arad put me on payroll?
Yeah, this looks like a packed cast for Spidey 3, but isn't by Orbots Commander	Jan 19th, 2006 07:46:27 PM
Could be that Venom has a cameo in 3 and is the main villain in Spidey 4.
Wow, SMALLVILLE was good tonight, to bad theres no talkback for by Shermdawg	Jan 19th, 2006 08:08:33 PM
Lex sure is trying to catch up to 50 Cent with the bullet wounds ain't he?
i dont mind Jenna Jameson's tranny-like voice. by HypeEndsHere	Jan 19th, 2006 08:11:22 PM
what puts me off is her embarassingly bad plastic surgery (not the tits, the face). including her new Hillary Duff-like horse choppers.
Sherm, this is Sherm, if you are hired by Arad, how about puttin by Shermdawg	Jan 19th, 2006 08:12:21 PM

Well, Sherm you could post it on that old Superman Returns talkb by Prof.Ikamono	Jan 19th, 2006 08:12:40 PM
It beats all the fussing and fighting we've been doing over there about the gay thing.
3 & 4 by SpikeZoft	Jan 19th, 2006 08:15:22 PM
I thought of that too when I heard about Gwen being in.
League of Extraordinary Shermen by Sherman_Lives	Jan 19th, 2006 09:36:32 PM
Why is it that the fans have all the best story ideas (and are validated as such within their community) but cannot achieve any kind of rank in the Hollywood studio system? Then we read articles all about how M.S. Johnson is a huge Daredevil fan, how Tim Story is a huge FF fan, and how Brett Ratner is a huge X-Men fan. Just once I want a fan to be the director (or writer, natch), not the other way around! But I guess Joss Whedon or Kevin Smith won't be doing any comic adaptations any time soon. Or here's an idea: put the person in charge of the source material in a position of input on the film (see also: Frank Miller, Robocop 3-- er, I mean, Sin City) You know what, come to think of it, I guess that would mean Chris Claremont would have to write the X-Men movie... and that would not do. Man, I need Lauren Shuler-Donner to lift that restraining order.
SMALLVILLE DID NOT OWN ITS OWN AICN TALKBACK'S ASS! by paulh	Jan 19th, 2006 09:55:04 PM
At least this week (don't think that will be the case next Thursday). And $1 to Shermdawg for a phrase that brings a smile to my face everytime I read it.
by pauljames33	Jan 19th, 2006 11:12:26 PM
all you haters should shut the fuck up. lets see you make a better movie you stupid fucks. don't like it, then fuck off.
Let's See, indeed... by Sherman_Lives	Jan 19th, 2006 11:37:36 PM
Paul, I heartily agree. LET'S SEE all of us make better movies. I've seen a lot of great fanmade clips out there, from Batman:Dead End, to Grayson, even that fanmade Silver Surfer test scene was impressive, all things considered. I want more fans in charge, because as I've said, we WOULD make a better movie! Joel Schumacher washes my car!
What?! Mother of God! Gwen, WHAT THE FUCK by samuraiwahoo	Jan 20th, 2006 12:35:47 AM
Man, what they are doing these days in movies make me sick. I don't talk about this anymore.
I'm hugging my comics and putting a steel toe into the DVD p by samuraiwahoo	Jan 20th, 2006 12:37:07 AM

So paulh, you like the "SMALLVILLE WILL OWN YOUR ASS!!!" line? by Shermdawg	Jan 20th, 2006 01:05:15 AM
So send that dollar to him cause I totally ripped off his "EPISODE III WILL OWN YOUR ASS!!!" But the number one catchphrase on AICN has to be "BUT WHERE IS JEFF GOLDBLUM???" Simply freakin' genius!
Shermdawg is my Ben Reilly: film at eleven by Sherman_Lives	Jan 20th, 2006 02:34:30 AM
It's true, and he looks AWESOME in that blue hoodie.
"One because wasnt James Cameron intent on doing Spiderman 1, bu by 3 Bag Enema	Jan 20th, 2006 02:50:09 AM
Actually, Cameron couldn't direct the film because Sony won the rights in court and Cameron is exclusive at another studio. By the way, anyone who says this actress is ugly or that Spider-Man 2 wasn't a good film is a dick.
Cameron should do a Namor film by Sherman_Lives	Jan 20th, 2006 03:01:48 AM
I have it on good authority that Billy Zane was born to play Krang. And the triumphant return of Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger as Attuma. Say it out loud. Emphasis on the second syllable. Cinema gold. Jim Cameron drank all my beer.
Cameron should do A film by Bass Ackwards	Jan 20th, 2006 03:10:10 AM
Any film, period. Anything. Something! Get your ass to work Jimmy!
I think she could play Meryl in a Metal Gear Solid movie by Johnno	Jan 20th, 2006 05:52:33 AM
That's what that pic looked like anyway... sweet!
Actually it was David Fincher, not King of the World who wanted by

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