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Where's the V For Vendetta reviews? by Trevor Goodchild	Dec 22nd, 2005 05:28:11 AM

Jonah Hex is really good.... by cactusmaac	Dec 22nd, 2005 05:39:58 AM
although issue #2 was way too compressed.
Once Again... by DukeOfSpiders	Dec 22nd, 2005 05:54:47 AM
...Prof. Challenger types and bullshit is spewed. "One of Byrne's weakest elements in recent years has been his sloppy hair detailing." Yeah, whatever, asswipe. Go look at the actual pencils: http://www.artofjohnbyrne.com/ pencilscans.html
Why no mention of Ryan Sook on X-Factor by ChorleyFM	Dec 22nd, 2005 06:05:17 AM
Sure PAD's writing is the reason for picking up this book, but the art is brilliant as well. I am a massive Bendis fan I have enjoyed almost all of his work (even House of M despite it being 2 issues too long) but Secret War was very blah.
And I thought we had a new Pratchett by elab49	Dec 22nd, 2005 06:09:09 AM
Who is this Captain Carrot imposter anyway?
Seriously lads... by BannedOnTheRun	Dec 22nd, 2005 06:09:16 AM
The best reviews, and some of the best writing overall on this site.
Captain Carrot?!?! by buster00	Dec 22nd, 2005 06:38:30 AM
For a split second, I was eight years old again...I can't stop the urge to put on Journey's Greatest Hits, unbag and read the entire run of CCAHAZC, and go dump all my change into the nearest Missle Command machine. Right after I finish my paper route, of course...
Suicide in Nighthawk by RenoNevada2000	Dec 22nd, 2005 07:59:39 AM
Anyone else reminded of PA politico R. Bud Dwyer's onair suicide from back in 86/87? I actually saw that live, as I was home from school due to a wicked snowstorm.
Optic Nerve! by chrth	Dec 22nd, 2005 08:00:46 AM
I think I need to get #10, I believe I have #9 and it's a cliffhanger. Unfortunately, the comic comes out so rarely I never remember what number I'm on.
Nighthawk suicide by Shigeru	Dec 22nd, 2005 08:15:47 AM
Yeah man definite Bud Dwyer homage there. (are you allowed to have an homage to a dude who blew his brains out on national TV? apparently so) Yeah that was shockingly disturbing. Loved the brain chunk falling out of the back of his head.
but but but... by zombieslayer	Dec 22nd, 2005 08:18:22 AM
Hulk ripped Wolverine IN HALF!!!
no no no... by Shigeru	Dec 22nd, 2005 08:22:51 AM
the real shock in that issue is how much poon hulk was getting. truly a wtf moment.
Getting really tired... by DannyOcean01	Dec 22nd, 2005 08:42:30 AM
Of reviewers pushing their wimpy, hyper-liberal views during their reviews. Oh boo hoo, Ambush Bug, unless you're joking (in which case apologies- it's really hard tell with the number of complaints about books being too gory, profane etc.), did you really think a Punisher Christmas story would be heartwarming? Wtf...
Heartwarming in that he will cut out the heart of a mobster and by cromulent	Dec 22nd, 2005 09:20:04 AM
Ryan Sook's art is beautiful in X-factor and it looks like it's gonna be a blast of a series. I like how David has cooly (is that a word) added onto everyone's powers, like Siryn's siren call and Rictor being a earth hugger now.
Great Reveiws, Guys by jloder24	Dec 22nd, 2005 10:03:43 AM
Merry Christmas! Thanks for an entertaining year of reviews.
Infinite Crisis #3 by RenoNevada2000	Dec 22nd, 2005 10:03:48 AM
Anyone else see R2-D2 in this issue?
R2D2 by Shigeru	Dec 22nd, 2005 10:07:03 AM
Wha?? Where? I saw a giant "PURPLE DEATH RAY" (snicker) but no droid.
R2 by AlgertMopper	Dec 22nd, 2005 10:24:05 AM
R2 is underneath Anti-Monitor when powergirl stares down the tower
Squirrel Girl and Captain Carrot - IN THE SAME WEEK! by Squashua	Dec 22nd, 2005 10:44:23 AM
Masn, Squirrel Girl KICKS ASS. My coworker, who is a former 80's Spawn comic reader asked me which character is the most powerful; who would win. And I told him - it depends on the writer. He didn't understand me. So I explained how Squirrel Girl, some chick who has a mutant power to talk to Squirrels can take down Galactus. "Nu-uh, no she can't." We went to the comic store yesterday and I showed him. "Aw, that's crap." No it wasn't. Even The Watcher saw it happen. Any character can "defeat" any other character - it just depends on the writer. There is no point to saying so-n-so can beat so-n-so. and that's that. I hear on Newsarama that Dan Pigio said Captain Carrot isn't going to survive IC. And that sucks.
moviemack by IRuleAll	Dec 22nd, 2005 10:56:00 AM
is gayer than Brandon Routh allegedly is.
I am off for the Holidays! by Shigeru	Dec 22nd, 2005 11:04:10 AM
To all my @$$'s and COGS: Merry Christmas, Happy Channakuh, Sweet Kwanza, Feliz Navidad and all that crap! Be safe and have fun!
X-Factor KICKED A$$ by Fantomex	Dec 22nd, 2005 11:13:29 AM
I didn't see the ending either, but we SHOULD have seen it because it was laid out right before us. I LOVE shit like that. Anytime a writer gets me to actually slap my head and say "Why didn't I see that" gets my instant devotion. Best new ongoing X-Book since... well a really long damn time (I don't really consider astonishing "new" or "ongoing") *** My comic shops consistently under-orders the supreme power minis, so I missed Blackhawk #3 AND #4. god damnit.
Angelina Jolie in Marvel Comics? by fiester	Dec 22nd, 2005 11:47:57 AM
Wha? Could someone explain what the reviewer was talking about.
I don't get that reference, moviemack by IRuleAll	Dec 22nd, 2005 11:56:06 AM
so stop pushing your agenda on me. Go Bush!
looking forward to x-factor by fried samurai	Dec 22nd, 2005 11:56:44 AM
I loved Peter David's run years ago.My favorite issue was when the team visits a psychiatrist.I think it was Doc Samson? and they all talk about their insecurities.Very well written issue....ps I'm glad you guys are covering manga I'd love to hear your thoughts on Blade of the Immortal and Lady Snowblood sometime..nice reveiws.
Confused by Ambushbug's Christmas Reviews... by littleknownfax	Dec 22nd, 2005 12:08:31 PM
So, basically, Ambushbug thinks the Punisher & GLA Christmas specials missed the mark because they didn't have endings that raised his Christmas spirits? . Dude, they're PUNISHER and GLA CHRISTMAS SPECIALS! They're supposed to be DARK and MORBID and F'D UP. That's the point! . They're the antidotes for light, fluffy, cutesy holiday specials. What a weird review. . If you're a fan of those kinds of stories, you shouldn't be looking for them in books about a guy who shoots off people's knee caps and another guy who blows out his own brains. . I thought both of them were exactly what I was hoping they would be. And both of them were very entertaining. And I really liked the fact that the GLA special pimped the Punisher special on its first page... while, at the same time, warning readers that it WASN'T going to be the kind of special that Ambush bug would have liked it to be.
YES! YES! CAPTAIN CARROT IS BACK! Now all I need are action figu by superhero	Dec 22nd, 2005 12:41:59 PM
THANK YOU DC COMICS! Captain Carrot and his Amazing Zoo Crew are THE REASON I started collecting comics! AWESOME! Keep them around as long as you can! Scott Shaw! deserves it! Screw Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles! Captain Carrot is BACK! YEAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
Oh, and OPTIC NERVE kicks ass... by superhero	Dec 22nd, 2005 12:44:29 PM
You know it's true...:O)
I've got the Christmas spirit. I'm going to acknowledge by Dave_F	Dec 22nd, 2005 12:50:17 PM
It's true: X-FACTOR #1 really was a good read. So was the MADROX miniseries that preceded it. **** In other news, did anyone else notice that Grampa Superman's eyes had a creepy "drifting apart" effect in IDENTITY CRISIS #3? Looked like Homer Simpson when he's drunk.
Yeah...it seemed like he had Super-Down's Syndrome or someth by superhero	Dec 22nd, 2005 12:58:29 PM

fiester by Gus Nukem	Dec 22nd, 2005 01:00:19 PM
http://tinyurl.com/9bj5h
FUCKING TRANSIT STRIKE!!!!!! by God-Man	Dec 22nd, 2005 01:16:06 PM
I can't go to my comic book store because of the transit strike here in New York. My store is in Manhattan and I live in Queens! FUCK!!! I'M STRANDED IN QUEENS!!! QUEENS!!!!
Strike is over by Tony Mike Hall	Dec 22nd, 2005 01:19:34 PM
I'm in NY too and I feel your pain. But it looks like they're going back to work later today. Almost there, buddy.
hahaha..."hyperliberal"...good one, Danny. by SleazyG.	Dec 22nd, 2005 01:47:25 PM
I mean, considering the fact that it's the right-wing religious conservatives who can't stop blabbing this year about the bullshit "War On Christmas" being waged by the liberals and all. I mean, isn't it the supposedly "liberal media" who would purposely marry murder, suicide, violence and profanity to the birth of Jesus? I guess that there might be a way to equate Bug's nostalgic longing for a return to the strongly pro-christian message of a cartoon produced in the late 1960's could be viewed as "liberal", but it would be as wrong as wrong gets.
sweet jesus by blackthought	Dec 22nd, 2005 01:50:16 PM

Zoo Crew, Yeahhh Baby! by Homer Sexual	Dec 22nd, 2005 02:22:14 PM
I had quit the Teen Titans. Not that it was bad, it just wasn't good enough to pay for. Then I read that Zoo Crew was in it, so I picked it up with my new books last night, and it was THE BOMB! And I am glad to see I'm not the only one who thinks so. Always loved the Zoo Crew, and this "insert" in TT is the best portrayal ever! Yes, people, do like me and skip Spider-Man/Black Cat (on principle, because Smith is so flagrantly f-u to those of us who were stupid enough to buy the comics he wrote) and buy Teen Titans this month! I also agree that X-Factor rocks from beginning to end, with my only caveat being Siryn's "altered" powers. Still good, though! And I don't say that about many books with an "X" these days.
Christmas comics by kenobi82	Dec 22nd, 2005 02:28:54 PM
If you want a cheery holiday comic special, please read the Marvel Holiday Special that came out a couple of weeks ago. You'll laugh, you'll cry, you'll see a robotic killer santa named Santron try to destroy the new Avengers. What did you expect the punisher christmas comic to be? Uplifting?
Nighthawk and GLA/X-Mas Special by Homer Sexual	Dec 22nd, 2005 02:29:01 PM
I also lament the upcoming changes to the Squadron Supreme, but OTOH, buy it while you can! I love the Hyperion mini, and if possible the Nighthawk one is even better! See, this is "deconstruction" or "reconstruction" or "reimagining" or whatever, of classic superhero archetypes in the freshest, most entertaining and intelligent manner ever! If someone described either book to me, I wouldn't think I'd like it. However, they are among the best in the market. With all the crap in comics these days, I am glad to have some books that are a pure joy to read! Now, regarding the Great Lakes people, I was bummed when Dinah Soar got killed, and there is more somewhat gratituitous killing in the Holiday Special. Still, this was better than the mini. Great use of Squirrel Girl. My not-into-comics friend read it on the toilet and really liked it, so there you go! ps: Thanks for the Secret War review. I am just such a sucker that I totally would have bought the inevitable TPB, and now I know better. Happy Holidays cogs (no, I don't understand what that means), I'm off work until January 3rd!
Thank you, Sleazy by Homer Sexual	Dec 22nd, 2005 02:40:51 PM
After reading Danny Ocean's comment, I thought "how can I, a self-identified hyper-liberal, love Christmas as well as comics (and movies) that present a dark take on the Holidays. But your post cleared it up for me. Seriously, I am not being sarcastic. I really did wonder how I can be super liberal, yet love Christmas and violence.
Little Cheese is dead! by superhero	Dec 22nd, 2005 04:13:43 PM
A moment of silence please. I loved that little fucker...
Vroom, You Are So Right About The Danger Bendis Is In As A Write by Buzz Maverik	Dec 22nd, 2005 04:15:49 PM
Lots of people think we hate Bendis here. While we don't worship him, we don't hate him. It's just that we've read lots of comic books and out of all the current big guns working, BMB has always been the one most shackled by his own quirks/style. The quirks/style can make for some fine comics, but they can be limiting and career/talent destructive. John Byrne was once the hot creator everyone loved (well, I'm guessing everyone that didn't know him personally). Bendis, with his notorious cult the Bendii, has always flirted with a certain Byrnian downfall. Maybe it'll be more benign. Maybe he'll just turn into Claremont.
Yo, I SO don't understand what's happening with Luthor i by superhero	Dec 22nd, 2005 04:21:41 PM
Which Luthor is Earth-2's? I'm assuming the one in the armor but when he attacks "Trump Luthor" and TL just disappears did Trump just teleport out or was he just an illusion created by "Napoleon Dynamite Luthor"? What is going on? Color me stupid but I have NO idea...
Also, While I'm Probably Through With Modern Comics For Good by Buzz Maverik	Dec 22nd, 2005 04:26:27 PM
Not the SUPREME one. First off, I have always liked the concept of a superhero as nothing more than a guy in a costume with an extreme personality (in this case, an exteme chip on his shoulder). But we always miss MU Kyle Richmond as Batman as a fuck up. He should have been Bruce Wayne, but he grew up like a Kennedy and backed into superheroing through supervillainry. He's as pissed off as Batman but not as focused. Best analogy: you hire Christian Bale to play Batman in a movie. For Nighthawk, you'd got with Hayden Christiansen or James Franco.
Wasn't Captain Carrot's true identity a guy named Roger by supreme nothing	Dec 22nd, 2005 06:15:38 PM
I'm guessing it was changed because of the animated movie that came out years later.......
Maybe Marvel Will Revive Peter Porker, The Spectacular Spider-Ha by supreme nothing	Dec 22nd, 2005 06:19:30 PM
Oh, that was some fun readin'! With special guests Captain Americat, The Fantastic Fur, Ant-Ant, Nick Furry, and Goose Rider fighting against evil villians like Ducktor Doom!
Luthor in Infinite Crisis by WordsSayNothing	Dec 22nd, 2005 06:31:09 PM
Maybe spoilers below, I dunno, you decide: superhero, if I'm reading it right, in Infinite Crisis #3, the two Luthors you see are the real Lex Luthor in the green armor (native to the DCU Earth that has been the focus of DC Comics since 1986) and Alexander Luthor Jr. impersonating Luthor, who was native to Earth 3, one of the Earths that was destroyed in Crisis on Infinite Earths. Alexander was the son of his Earth's Lex Luthor and Lois Lane; on this Earth, Lex Luthor was the world's only superhero, singlehandedly fighting against the Crime Syndicate of Amerika (basically, the evil version of the JLA). Alexander was the only survivor of Earth-3, and is supersmart like seemingly all versions of his father. Alexander, along with Earth Prime's Superboy and Earth 2's Kal-L and Lois Lane, all survived the universe reset into the DCU Earth we know today outside of our dimension in a spacetime pocket thingy (technobabble explanation). Now, after having watched the main DCU heroes screw up their world for years, Alexander and company have decided to take an active hand in resetting history so that Earth 2 became the dominant post-Crisis Earth, and somehow this will save Earth 2 Lois Lane's life. Alexander apparently took advantage of Lex Luthor's disappearance (after the end of Superman/Batman #6) to impersonate him and create the Society. Did that make sense?
Didn't we already do through this? by heystantheman!	Dec 22nd, 2005 06:55:33 PM
Talking about X-Factor #1 and not discussing the charming work of Ryan Sook is a crime, and just, I'm sorry, bad reviewing. So much of the strength of the book is Sook's characterizations. Also, why is no one discussing the Ultimates vol 2? Is there some sort of any Millar thing? If so, hey, I didn't know. But Ultimates 2 is quite simply the best comic out there. No Sook sucks!!!!
Gobbledygook by WordsSayNothing	Dec 22nd, 2005 06:57:31 PM
Yeah, I can see how gobbledygook would be the applicable term. One of DC's greatest strengths--and weaknesses--is its long history and continuity, which I admit probably turns off new readers, but is great for long-time geek fans such as myself (and I've only been following this for 15 years or so, so there are many others who have been at this longer than I have).
No anti-Millar, Stantheman. by SleazyG.	Dec 22nd, 2005 07:03:12 PM
In fact, despite our reputation, we're not anti-anybody. We're a loosely knit posse full of people with widely divergent tastes. Millar has been both praised and condemned here...in fact, I've done both myself. Just depends on the project, really. We didn't get to ULTIMATES for no other reason than that, well, nobody felt like covering it or had the time to. This week was heavy on indies and manga, but shit, those guys deserve some love too, and it's gonna mean a lot more to them than to Millar. Okay, I know manga rakes in the cash--but when we don't cover it, we hear "you don't cover enough manga!" Ya can't please everybody. As for ULTIMATES 2--I personally find it vastly superior to the first arc, and have been very pleasantly surprised with this second season of the title. Sadly, I won't be around for the third. Definitely a title worth watching, though, and I was glad we got the reveals now so that Millar has enough time to wrap it up with a big three-issue in-your-face whoopdedoo.
P.S. re: Ryan Sook's art: by SleazyG.	Dec 22nd, 2005 07:07:42 PM
Yes, X-FACTOR looked great. I understand the choice of palette for a moody noir piece with a dark sense of humor, but I could go for just a teeny bit more vibrancy. Minor quibble, though. How's this for praise of Sook? The best thing about his art here is that it shows just how much he has matured and developed as an artist. I first noticed him on Dark Horse's BUFFY title and some SPECTRE stuff at DC. The DC stuff was a huge improvement over the sketchy, indistinct Dark Horse work, but it looks like Scott Allie was right to see potential there. He's really come around and I'll be keeping an eye out for his future projects.
Wait, so none of the Luthors is actually the original Earth-2 Lu by superhero	Dec 22nd, 2005 07:29:39 PM
Wow, now I AM confused! That's so disappointing! I thought for sure one of the Luthors was Kal-L's old nemesis! Huh...I must've been reading the whole thing wrong. So then where was the "real" Luthor after Superma/Batman # 6????
Oh, and Captain Carrot's real name was originally Roger Rabb by superhero	Dec 22nd, 2005 07:31:14 PM
At least that's what I hear...
I sent in a Cheap Shot for the latest Ultimates... by superhero	Dec 22nd, 2005 07:33:48 PM
Basically it went like this..."Hollleeee Fucking Shit!" You can see why it wasn't used...
if you want your luthor's figured out... by blackthought	Dec 22nd, 2005 07:58:56 PM
wait for thayla to come on...i don't see where we are getting alexander luthor jr. impersonating lex of the society since both that lex and the one running the six were active while alexander jr. was still trapped in that alternate doo-wicky thingy with Kal-L, a dying Lois and Supes-Prime.
Ambush Bug Christmas?!?!?!?!?!?! Yipeee!!!! by CitC	Dec 22nd, 2005 08:16:49 PM
Oh. Nevermind, Drat. comicsintheclassroom.net
The Earth-2 Luthor was killed in the original "Crisis". by God-Man	Dec 22nd, 2005 09:02:40 PM
Killed by Braniac after E2 Luthor pointed out that there was no need for two Lex Luthors to be around. This was when Braniac and E1 Luthor gathered all of the villans toghether to take over the world.
I see whatcher sayin', blackthought, but I got an idea: by SleazyG.	Dec 22nd, 2005 09:34:41 PM
So the alternate-Earths posse were sittin' in the ADWT (alternate doo-wicky thingy), right? And then all at once Cranky old Bastard Superman was all "it's time, let's do this", and just like that...they were out of the ADWT and on Earth Prime or Earth 1 (I keep forgetting which the DCU is set on). So if they could do it that easily just cuz they felt like it, why couldn't Napoleon Dynamite Luthor have been bouncing back and forth all along? Just because they were waiting for the right time to make their entrance doesn't mean they were incapable of going any sooner, dig? Plus the fact that we know the barriers between the dimensions have been weakened and are now full of holes (see current TEEN TITANS for details) lends further credence to that line of thinking.
On Luthors and such...... by Psynapse	Dec 22nd, 2005 10:22:13 PM
Wait, as someone else here pointed out there is a timing issue with certain events in Infinite Crisis. We 'see' Lex3, SBprime, E2 Supes & lois 'escape' their confinement at the end of IC #1 yet the reveals in #3 show that clearly Lex3 & SBprime were active outside the 'prison' prior to this event occurring. BUT IC #3 also reveals to us that these two have been plotting together without E2 Supe's knowledge as well. The statement 'and so will Kal-L. WHETHER THEY LIKE IT OR NOT.' tells us quite a bit about the kind of person we're dealing with. Furthermore Johns is actually exploiting a continuity loophole here. Lex3 is NOT 'the son' of the E3 true analog to the E1 & E2 Lex. He IS their analog. He comes right out and says it to Lex1. Also there is the 'short-circuit' that also occurs between Power Girl and Supergirl. As for E2 Lex he didnt survive crisis and really played no major part in it anyway. He had pretty much been mothballed overall when the 1st Crisis came out. The E2 stories mainly focused on the younger heroes (PG, Robin, Huntress,& Infinity Inc.) at that time. (Psy's first DC story was in one those 80 page giant em-effers featuring the CSA circa 73 or 74 and he been DC's bitch since then in one form or another)My take is that the combination of their confinement while having to view so many crappy things while being utterly helpless has pushed Lex3 & SBprime completely over the edge and E2 Supes is so desperately stressed at the thought of Lois biting it that he is allowing himself to be manipulated into some bad shit frankly. Lex3 is CLEARLY now as bad as E1 or E2 ever were y'see.*SPOILER WARNING** If ya don't believe me you need to just read Villains United, it is Lex3 that murders Pariah. Who, he actually worked WITH for the safety of the universe in Crisis.Oh and WELCOME BACK Buzz! I for one hope that we can expect more reviews on these classic compilations.
SleazyG - RE: Napolean Luthor by jocutus	Dec 22nd, 2005 10:32:10 PM
It looks like Napolean Luthor Jr. HAS been traveling around, and E2 Supes as well. I'm assuming that Luthor, Jr was the Luthor that organized the Society right? And E2 Superman was the one who damaged the Watch tower and kidnapped Martian Manhunter - but that was supposedly BEFORE they broke out of the big barrier keeping them in the ADWT at the end of Infinite Crisis #1, right? It seems like they've screwed up the chronology in order to have a few dramatic revelations. Why does Luthor Jr. need to mind-wipe the heroes, anyway? Just so they won't interfere with his Earth Swap plan?
Whoops by jocutus	Dec 22nd, 2005 10:36:04 PM
Thats right, it was Superboy Prime that attacked the JLA. Thanks Psynapse. It is creepy that he was the one who killed pariah. I was wondereing how he knew about him at all.
Oh, And by "he" by jocutus	Dec 22nd, 2005 10:37:53 PM
I Meant Napolean Dynamite Luthor Jr. Time for bed I think.
Hey! Indie Jones... by Jaka	Dec 22nd, 2005 11:00:22 PM
...nice! Thanks guys. The thing about Optic Nerve though, is that Drawn & Quarterly ARE about as indie as it gets. So, ya know, it fits.
RE: Ultimates #9 by buster00	Dec 22nd, 2005 11:49:38 PM
OK, who's got it figured out? Who are all those evil dudes in the last scene? Two of 'em are pretty obvious...but who are these supposed to be Ultimate versions of? What they DID, man...that was straight up EVILSHIT. Evilshit, yo.
nicely done by blackthought	Dec 23rd, 2005 01:11:03 AM
cog psynapse...i'm still recovering from finals and i had a total brain-fart on E2's luthor...i just re-read crisis on infinite earths right before this crisis kicked off to be all fresh and what not...oy...thank you school for taking away whatever memory i had left...i wish that villains united trade was hardcover with a bunch of side-tales following lawton and blake...what a pair i tell ya.
weekly comic summaries? by Calico Pete	Dec 23rd, 2005 02:09:08 AM
Is there a website out there that summarizes the weekly books? The comic book equivalent of www.televisionwithoutpity.com?
"Yawn. Wake me when it's "One Year After All This Crap." by Darth Kal-El	Dec 23rd, 2005 05:14:26 AM
didnt he send his decoder ring back?WTF?and here i drank all this ovaltine for nothing...mmm pumpkin spice
"I'm just bitter because my third favorite funny-book writer by Darth Kal-El	Dec 23rd, 2005 05:16:00 AM
"...etc,etc,et al,bla"***you had me at "im just bitter"
it could just be me by heystantheman!	Dec 23rd, 2005 06:22:40 AM
But when you read Ultimates Vol 2, and then read Infinite crisis, does DC's book just seem...I don't know...silly? I could imagine, perhaps, maybe, someone with no comic book bg coming to the Ultimates and see a combination of Rainbow Six with Superheroes, a tightly written action thriller with mysery and suspense, but what to make of Identity Crisis and Infinite Crisis. Classic heroes whining about their jobs. Am I wrong? It's a metatextual discussion about their roles as heroes. It may have made an interesting essay but as drama...not so much. Supes, Bats and Wondy seem more concerned with their perception by the masses and their role in society than with actually saving people. Heck, E2 Supes is right. These guys are pale stand ins for real heroes. One could argue that the same thing is going on in Ultimates, but at least there, Millar has the freedom, because essentially every character is expendable (to a point. I mean that they are not characters with licensing histories going back 40 years that Marvel would be loathe to lose) and Millar is willing to expend them and keep us guessing. Ultimates (no pun intended) the only real interest in Infinite Crisis is whether or not DC is going to return to some sort of a Pre-Crisis state. That may appeal to the fetishist in all of us geek fans, but it's preaching to the choir. It's not a song everyone is gonna want to hear. In many ways, Identity Crisis was even worse. Hear me out: the idea that heroes can keep a secret identity is, on the surface, completely ridiculous. Anybody with somewhat sophisticated technological resources and "informational" connections with half a brain could have figured out that Batman was Bruce Wayne, in the real world. Heck, don't even get me started on Superman. The fantasy of the superhero is dependent on several fallible axioms, any of which on its face is implausible. So when someone picks one and now, all of a sudden, villains begin to realize that they can figure out identities, it makes it impossible to suspend disbelief in regards to all thos other axioms. Hell, if we have to now stop believing that Clark can hide his identity behind a pair of glasses, how long before his whole psysiology stops making sense. And the thing of it is, once you open that can of worms, you can't go back. At best, you have to wait for us to be lulled back into a sense of renewed complacency when it comes to that issue. How can you read I.C. and then read Superman and not wonder how Perry CAN'T REALIZE THAT CLARK AND SUPERMAN LOOK EXACTLY ALIKE? And frankly, and this is totally personal, it's boring. It's the sort of thing someone with no comic book experience would write. Just like we get bad hackneyed Star Trek scripts from people with no familiarity with the genre. If we as creators, and you as readers, continue to support this stuff, man, it's just picking at the deep wounds in our industry. It's fun to pick at scabs, but it leaves scars. (ew)
waaaaaa I'm done with Marvel for good!!! waaaaaa by Fantomex	Dec 23rd, 2005 10:51:39 AM
Puh-leaze! DC has been kicking ass lately, and it looks like they'll kick even more ass for the next 6 months, but you aren't dont with Marvel. Not even for a month.
here here... by blackthought	Dec 23rd, 2005 11:28:30 AM
DC has kicked alot of ass lately...oh villains united...oh catman...lots of ass kicking...and happy holidays.
Does anyone else think that JUSTICE is Alex Ross's reaction by superhero	Dec 23rd, 2005 11:34:00 AM
'Cause it shure seems like it. -SPOILER- All the villains finding out the heroes' secrets and getting ready to kick some superhero ass. Bet Ross's JLA resolves it without wiping everyone's meories and no one gets raped by Doctor Light either. As far as secret identities go...heystantheman!...when people are picking up a comic book they are conciously picking up a book about a guy that flies or can walk up a wall like a spider. Meaning, a TON of suspension of disbelief is involved anyway so why do you expect people not to be able to go with secret identities? If someone picks up a Superman book and has a problem with Supes wearing glasses and using that to hide his identity and NOT the fact that he can move mountains with his bare hands well, then, they shouldn't be reading superhero books. If people want straight up realism go read 100 Bullets...that's what it's there for...as an alternative. But for people to be bitching about "How could you NOT figure out that Bruce Wayne is Batman?" I say get over it or go read something else! It's part of the genre and you accept it or you don't. But if you don't buy into the idea or think it's ridiculous and don't think that a flying man in blue tights is ridiculous enough to complain about that...well, then, I just don't know what to tell you...
Standing up for Bendis by Donal_Graeme	Dec 23rd, 2005 11:40:39 AM
Sure, the New Avengers is a train wreck, other than giving us the funniest Spiderman we have seen in years. Sure, his run on Daredevil went dreadfully wrong, but dammit, this man provided us with the most entertaining, thought provoking AICN Comic Review talkback subjects of 2005....Is Luke Cage a backdoor man and just what is happening to Jessica Jones on the first page of that issue of Alias? People also need to read the first 3 Powers story arcs, Who Killed Retro Girl?, Roleplay and Little Deaths if they want to see Bendis at his very best.
superhero by heystantheman!	Dec 23rd, 2005 11:57:33 AM
I'm going to give you a chance to carefully reread my post so that you can realize that you and I made almost the exact same point. then you can apologize.
Re-read your post...don't have anything to apologize for... by superhero	Dec 23rd, 2005 12:15:20 PM
Didn't mean to hurt your feelings but if I did I apologize. I just think that bitching about how the villains discovered all their identities and saying that readers could never accept that their identities could ever be hidden again might be a bit silly. How many times has something completely silly been done in comics (i.e.-the clone saga) only to have been fixed up by another writer or some bizarro explanation. Just because the villains figured out who the heroes are doesn't mean anyone else will or can in the realm of comic books. There was a really interesting issue of STAR BRAND written by John Byrne where Ken Connell goes to a comic convention and the comic creators there break down how it'd be completely impossible to keep a secret identity for any prolonged period. Of course in reality secred IDs couldn't exist. But when I read Superman or Spider-Man I'm not looking for "reality" I'm looking for kickass adventure and fantasy mixed in with some over-the-top dramatic moments. Now let's have some eggnogg and be friends!
Superhero by heystantheman!	Dec 23rd, 2005 12:25:51 PM
sorry guy, you missed the point and you do owe me an apology. if you won't tender it, I won't hold a grudge. Some people were raised wrong, what can you do? You just remade my point "When i read Superman or Spiderman I'm not looking for reality." You didn't read my entire post.
Ultimates by SoonerSean	Dec 23rd, 2005 12:39:32 PM
It ain't in the review list up above, but the new Ultimates issue is pretty darn incredible. Won't spoil it - but there is MASSIVE action and you'll be fairly surprised by some of the revelations and actions in the book.
heystan...look who's not reading posts now? I did apologise by superhero	Dec 23rd, 2005 12:46:34 PM
Just because I don't agree with your point doesn't mean I missed it...
It's all been done better.....in the Incredibles. by cookylamoo	Dec 23rd, 2005 01:48:28 PM
The only great super-hero material to come out this year.
it could just be me by The Heathen	Dec 23rd, 2005 02:54:21 PM
but heystanthewhatever is bein a real turd. Funny how someone who has their own "secret identity" is complaining about them and whatnot right before the holidays. Anyway, to reply to one of your posts "when you read Ultimates Vol 2, and then read Infinite crisis, does DC's book just seem...I don't know...silly?" Nope, not really. And if it is, what's wrong with that? I'm enjoying the hell out of DC's stuff right now and actually a lot of Marvels less "event" related stuff (although I found Son of M to be quite the surprise both in story and art : )) When you read IC and then HoM, does HoM still suck? Probably, but having read one or the other makes no difference to me. "If WE as creators, and YOU as readers, continue to support this stuff, man, it's just picking at the deep wounds in our industry." Way to toot your own horn too btw. ; \ Happy Holidays to the @$$es (you guy's are awesome for getting these things out during this crazy time of year, I can barely keep up) and my Cogs!!!
Superman Vs. Clark.... by Psynapse	Dec 23rd, 2005 03:58:49 PM
Wait there's another side to that. It is perfectly illustrated during Supergirl's re-introduction story arc in Superman/Batman. Kal and Kara are walking around Metropolis in civvies. They come up to the statue of Superman that was erected when he did and Kara exclaims "Oh I get it. NO wonder they never recognize you as Clark, THIS is how they see you." She is referring to how godlike (and thus Superman himself is) the statue is in contrast to how human and fallible Clark is. Espionage experts will tell you that best place to hide is in plain sight. Successful criminals will tell you that simply acting naturally at all times will actually make people's attention turn away from you regardless of what you are actually doing. Many many criminals have successfully pulled off situations merely by acting as if they had every right to be doing what they were.Any cop will tell you this. Oh and nobody owes anybody an apology for having a different opinion about ANYTHING here folks. This is AI-goddamn motherfucking-CN where finding common ground regardless of differences is the way we play. Word.....
Damn typo... by Psynapse	Dec 23rd, 2005 04:00:56 PM
*when he died. (the statue was erected while Supe's was practicing his Super daisy pushing power.)
Heathen, you're misunderstanding Stantheman. by SleazyG.	Dec 23rd, 2005 04:22:39 PM
He's not complaining about secret identities. He's actually supporting them. What he's getting at is that in the Marvel universe, they're more acceptable. People have them, and nobody goes "geez, why doesn't anybody realize Mikey Wilson is Ultrakid? The only difference is Ultrakid has to wear glasses to fine-tune his Ultravision! They look the same!" Stan is saying he thinks the "how did nobody know" and the "keeping the two lives separate" is endemic to the DCU, not the MU. Now, I happen to think he's wrong, but at least I know what I'm disagreeing with and why. See, in the Marvel Universe Dr. Don Blake didn't worry about whether anybody knew he was Thor all too often, so fair enough. On the other hand, Spider-Man worries about it all the time, and on top of that Marvel has tried to make big stories out of the unmaskings of Iron Man, Captain America and Daredevil (among others) all in the last few years. In fact, the continuing push to reveal the civilian identities of the heroes in the Marvel Universe is just one of the BMB-inspired developments that bugs the bejeezus outta me. In addition, there have been plenty of stories at Marvel about heroes trying to juggle the lives/responsibilities of both identities, and one could even argue that's one of the primary themes of THE HULK for a decade or two now. Oh, and there was that whole "Tony Stark used his technology to make all the heroes forget his identity" thing that pissed off Cap a few years ago, too, which is a pretty clear predecessor to IDENTITY CRISIS, as far as i'm concerned. So while I see and understand your points, Heystan, I happen to disagree, but that's cool.
Yeah, I Dig What Stan Is Saying & He & Superhero Are Agreeing... by Buzz Maverik	Dec 23rd, 2005 04:38:35 PM
...although this "I'm a secret comic pro stuff" could be legitimate or it could be crap. I mean, waaay the hell back when I used to talkback all the time because my life sucked, there were two rumors about Buzz that I loved and didn't discourage. One guy called Lightstormer kept insisting I was James Cameron, whom I should be but am not. Another time, the discovery of Alice In Chains singer Layne Staley's corpse coincided with a time when I wasn't talkbacking so somebody posted that they thought it was me, which was very kind of them. I'm pretty sure that both Ben Affleck and everybody's favorite actor/geek Freddie Prinze Jr. have posted here. So it's kind of like if Stan's a pro, I'm thinking John Byrne or that he's posting from the future. What the hell do I know? I too like secret identities. I too am not huge of realism with this stuff because...it is not, cannot be real. I agree with Psynapse or someone else that Clark Kent works. It's attitude. That's why Clark is a nerdlinger. Look at actors. Steve Carrell. Helluva a comic actor, hilarious, fearless guy. I've talked to more than one person who couldn't believe that the boss in THE OFFICE was also THE 40 YEAR OLD VIRGIN and Brick the Retarded Weatherman in ANCHORMAN. It's not too much of a stretch of what I like to call the imagination to see how many heroes, with their abilities, could evade surveillance and switch into costume. I mean, who the hell knows what a guy with Spider powers can do? Mary Jane, maybe. Anyway, we all agree. BTW, in real life, I am the President of the United States.
That Said, I Never Understood Why Captain America Had A Secret I by Buzz Maverik	Dec 23rd, 2005 04:44:34 PM
It's not like he does anything else, even when they do something stupid like make him a Marvel artist. Usually, his friends and girlfriends are either superhuman or high enough in the espionage community to be able to more than defend themselves against lunatics. Iron Man, I could see. In the ESSENTIAL eras, Stark Industry depended on defense contracts. It may have cost him business if Congress threw money to a company with a CEO who might be crushed by Ultimo or turned to stone by the Grey Gargoyle.
"I mean, who the hell knows what a guy with Spider powers can do by Psynapse	Dec 23rd, 2005 06:32:16 PM
I think I just wet myself laughing at that.
psynapse.... by blackthought	Dec 23rd, 2005 06:53:35 PM
i hope you didn't wet yourself in an emergency batsuit...i'm not paying dry cleaning on that.
And NOW a small Musical interlude.... by RickSlamu2	Dec 23rd, 2005 06:58:06 PM
ON THE 12 DAY OF MY X-BOOKS BOYCOTT, MY TRUE LOVE GAVE TO ME/12 Emma's acting BITCHEY!!!/11 Peter's unCroaking/10 Rachel's missing mommy/9 Alex's Playing the Fiddel (Second Fiddle that is)/8 T.J's wanting to HEADBANG!/7 Petro's smelling like URIEN!/6 Lorna's Buying Line Green Haircoloring/ (SUN SLOWLY) 5(thousand) insane plot threads!!!! 4 Kitty's Babying that flying purple RAT! (yes i mean Lockheed!)/3 Scott's Lossing their minds for a pice of hot bloond poon-tang/ 2 Jean' still MIA/ and a Logan so confused by his ORIGIN he preaty much UP A TREEEEEEEEE!!!! Thank you Ladys and Germs. Remember The htel Loby has has a wie sellections of books, EXCEPT for the X-Books witch we are boycotting for Dec. Jan. and Feb. Try the roast THUNDER BIRD. GOOD EATS!!! (That is before he comes back to life and starts killing x-men in a couple of months!
That shod be hotel and wide... by RickSlamu2	Dec 23rd, 2005 07:02:39 PM
How come i allways miss on word when i go back to proofread it? Ah spelling overated anyway!!!
I think... by Thalya	Dec 23rd, 2005 10:39:51 PM
Since Alex Luthor is half anti-matter, the Anti-Monitor is working through him. What else explains the purplish energy he blasts our Lex with? And I do have to say hmmm... Apparently the four minis were all distractions to those capable of stopping this stuff from going down.. And Society Lex/Alex apparently is putting Calculator on, first with the satellites and then with the OMAC problem: like Alex needs Luthor's satellites with the setup he's got at the Fortress of Solitude; if there's one villain who could put pieces together, it's Calcy and now he's probably too overextended to be paying close enough attention, or at least that's what Alex wants. And it isn't a mind-wiping machine, that's just the cover-story. And lastly, Alex Luthor created the paradise dimension where the four of them went; he can definitely do what he wants with it, though I have serious mental health questions about Superboy. First he complains to Kara in #2 that Superman bled to get them out of there, but he's been sneaking out with Alex and blowing up the Watchtower in the meantime? I guess all the Supermen don't have mental manipulation insurance? They should look into that..
hmmmmmm..... by blackthought	Dec 23rd, 2005 10:52:21 PM

Miss me? by El Vale	Dec 24th, 2005 12:44:38 AM
I must confess for some reason i can't bring myself to read the reviews. Maybe when all the christmas craze is over i'll be able to sit and enjoy them. Oh and i agree with heystan! On almost everything he said, except when he got all mad at superhero and said his parents sucked or something. Lots of love!
Buzz, exactly by heystantheman!	Dec 24th, 2005 01:11:44 AM
I thought i was going crazy because Super really just didn't seem to get that I was agreeing with him. I will make one point I really should have clarified earlier: unlike other eras in which Iron Man can be unmasked or whatever and then things could die down and you could have a gradual return to the staus quo of supension of disbelief, the DCU has really centered on Identity and Infinite Crisis as defining, for the entire line, the nature of the DCU for the time being. So in the DCU, as of now, secret identities don;t remain secret. Why? Because the DCU is now being depicted in such a "realistic" manner, that secret ID's, like in OUR world, couldn't possibly work. My problem with that is now you have to pick and choose WHICH axioms of comic book reality stay intact and which others are thrown out. ULTIMATES is a way to sidestep that issue by throwing out ALL (or enough) axioms without the need to prop up licensed characters that you need to persist past the current "wave." And whether or not I am actually a pro as I claimed, I mean, how can I prove it without destroying the means by which I, as a pro, can communicate with you, readers and fans, in an open way? Besides, I don;t really think my points have (or lack) merit based solely on what I do for a living.
oh and super by heystantheman!	Dec 24th, 2005 01:12:52 AM
I was just kidding about the "raised right" thing. It was a joke and I'm sorry if it came off and serious anger. best!
it occured to me by heystantheman!	Dec 24th, 2005 01:17:31 AM
I apoligize if I seem to be going on about this ad nauseum, but it occured to me that I should state that my PROBLEM with treating the DCU heros like the Ultimates is that you CAN'T totally strip the DCU heroes of ALL their "comic book" fantasy attributes. So when you strip them of one, the whole fantasy collapses, because these characters have existed under conditions of almost total unreality. Introduce one level of "real" reality, and now we have to question everything. The Avengers, if done like the Ultimates, would have the same problem.
oh and buzz by heystantheman!	Dec 24th, 2005 01:24:01 AM
I did clarify earlier that as a pro, I am not a legend like Byrne, I am a working pro drawing for one of the big two (and sometimes both and sometimes others.) I enjoy reading comics, unlike many of my colleagues, and I like being able to offer you another point of view. Not that I feel that it's in any way more valuable than anyone else's. Just different.
Ultimate Wolverine vs. Hulk... by buster00	Dec 24th, 2005 08:41:34 AM
beat the living shit outta me. Best book this week. BETTER than IC.
er... by blackthought	Dec 24th, 2005 08:42:01 AM
uh-huh...hmmmmm...er...
What are you ordering from the Jan. 2006 Previews ? by Gus Nukem	Dec 24th, 2005 10:23:09 AM
This should be a monthly column, imo. -- For me Blue Beetle, because of Cully Hamner (Batman: Tenses) and the kick-butt costume he created.
my review of Nighthawk #4 by Gus Nukem	Dec 24th, 2005 10:43:12 AM
in 2 words : Eff yeah . --- Whoever decided that Dillon SHOULD be drawing superheroics should be crowned the emperor of the universe. *** Ultimate Hulk vs. Wolverine #1: hmm... obviously an entertaining read, but other than that it seems kind of empty and pointless; I know the title is friggin Ultimate Wolverine vs. Hulk, but still... Leinil F. Yu is a welcome change away from the other Ultimate titles' artists' photoreferencing and stiffness.
The Fountain - my opinion by Gus Nukem	Dec 24th, 2005 11:09:42 AM
I read it. Very, very good stuff, by all means. Story by Aronofsky and Ari Handel, script by D.A., art by Kent Williams; what could one expect? Still, I find the phrase the Ultimate Director's Cut very unfit for it. Gentlemen, Kent Williams, storytelling-wise, is no Darren Aronofsky. The ultimate director's cut should be by Aronofsky himself and I feel Williams delivered a bit of a boring result; maybe it is because I feel that way about artists who use such a style in comics, such as Alex Ross, Dave McKean and George Pratt, whose art leaves me cold in the sequential storytelling that is comics. If I could, I wouldn't have bought the HC (45 euros! mama mia!) and instead I'd have preferred to watch the story as it was intended: on film, with sound, movement, actors and above all (watch out, I am delivering Pulitzer caliber material now) directed by Aronofsky.
that said... by Gus Nukem	Dec 24th, 2005 11:19:15 AM
I'll go watch the film, albeit in a spoiled manner. And then I am going to track everyone responsible for the Fountain GN and I am going to mess around with them. Just for a bit... to show them how it feels... heh heh... unlucky fuckers.
But heystan...who says that if one axiom goes ALL of them have t by superhero	Dec 24th, 2005 12:02:09 PM
I think it's the whole unrealism of comics that says that if one of the axioms goes other can and will stay intact. And, quite honestly, does anyone honestly think that the DCU is beoming more "realistic". Just because they start to introduce grittier elements doesn't make it more realistic, right? It just makes it more disturbing...which to me doesn't equate to realism. I mean, I seriously don't think the Marvel U is more "realistic" because Daredevil's identity has been outed in the press. If anything it's MORE unrealistic, right? I mean, if there was even a suspicion that a famous and possibly high powered attorney in NYC was really a vigilante who continually goes out and violates criminal's civil rights the NY DA's office'd be ALL OVER that guy, right???? I mean his license to practice law would at least be suspended immediately, correct? Let's go have some more eggnog! Not too much...my dairy intolerance can't handle too much of that stuff. Where's the Dairy Ease?
What's everyone doing for Christmas Eve? by El Vale	Dec 24th, 2005 01:13:47 PM
And what do you hope Santa will bring?
Santa would bring me the gift of... by RickSlamu2	Dec 24th, 2005 02:28:15 PM
Wipeing out the last year of X-Men Continunity! Everything til just before Morrision began stinking up the joint, now that i think of it! That would be nice!
Ultimate Hulk/Wolvie... by kiddae	Dec 24th, 2005 02:31:45 PM
...was fantastic. I was grinning from ear-to-ear the whole way through. Green Lantern Corps #3 was great as well, best issue yet. Ditto Justice #3. Woo, fun week for comics!
Not much Vale... by Thalya	Dec 24th, 2005 02:41:36 PM
Wrapping presents, giving my ham-hams a squeaky clean cage, having dinner with the family, s'bout it. As for Santa, well, hard-cover Harry Potter books, I guess, unless he can bring inspiration, perseverance, good scores on a Mensa test, or a nice big shiny Calculator... How 'bout you?
RickSlamu2, you dumbass by El Vale	Dec 24th, 2005 03:42:41 PM
Morrison started stinking up the joint? WTF? You may need an idiocy check and while you're at it stop caring about the friggin X-Men so much. Nah i'm just kidding, i love you. Merry Christmas!
Thalya by El Vale	Dec 24th, 2005 03:48:47 PM
Christmas party with all my family...well not all of it but about 20 people or so. Big turkey dinner, music etc. Santa's bringing DVDs and stylish clothes so i can look good while i'm not naked. And maybe something surprising, but i wouldn't count on it.
I, For One, WIll Admit That My Parents Raised Me In An Unconvent by Buzz Maverik	Dec 24th, 2005 04:39:51 PM
They were grifters, you see. By the mid-60s, Pa Maverik had refashioned himself as the Maverikishi Goodhash Maverik and was bilking money out of rock stars by teaching them the art of Incidental Meditation. The Monkees, Joey Heatherton and Peter Noone of Herman's Hermits were all his marks...disciples...his disciples. With both my parents busy with the family bidness, they didn't have time to properly care for pre-school Buzz so they shipped me off to stay with my older brother Cav Maverik, who commanded a helicopter unit in Viet Nam. Cav was the inspiration for Col. Kilgore in the movie APOCALYPSE NOW. Except he didn't wipe out a village so his men could surf. He wiped it out so I could make sand castles. "Charlie doesn't play in the sand!" Ah, the good ol' days, flying over the rice paddies, with a flak jacket as a diaper. When it came time for Cav to go on leave and have sex with prostitutes, naturally, he couldn't have his baby brother along so he passed me on to our other brother, Spook Maverik, who was officially dead, but still somehow managed to do wet work for Air America. Oddly enough, Spook's mission was to go into Cambodia and ki--...terminate an American who was leading the communist troops. Imagine our suprise when it turned out that the commie was our other brother, Che Maverik. Spook and Che worked out a deal. Spook let Che live in exchange for babysitting me. We had a good time. When Jane Fonda visited the VC, we went along. Jane had her young niece Bridget along, who was exactly my age so I had a playmate. Heady days. Heady days, indeed.
Merry Christmas every BODY! by Gus Nukem	Dec 24th, 2005 05:19:30 PM
... organic, robotic and otherwise
Boy, am I ever late to this party. by rev_skarekroe	Dec 24th, 2005 05:22:28 PM
All I have to say is, they'd better publish the whole Captain Carrot story in 1 issue. THEY'D BETTER!!
Oh, and even though I don't want to speculate on the secret by rev_skarekroe	Dec 24th, 2005 05:31:50 PM
If he was, he would never have apologized for anything, and he would spend most of his time here talking about John Byrne.
interesting by blackthought	Dec 24th, 2005 09:03:28 PM

Merry Christmas everyone! by Thalya	Dec 24th, 2005 11:24:19 PM

Christmas. Merriment. All! by Dave_F	Dec 25th, 2005 02:37:59 AM
And here's hoping Santa can squeeze that ABSOLUTE WATCHMEN down the chimney. http://tinyurl.com/8g8sy ** http://tinyurl.com/794tc http://tinyurl.com/8ckg5 http://tinyurl.com/d9ff9 http://tinyurl.com/doytq http://tinyurl.com/d25oh **
Christmas at the PBF by Gus Nukem	Dec 25th, 2005 09:51:28 AM
http://tinyurl.com/b7ech * as always, more here: http://cheston.com/pbf/archive .html **
your best reads in 2005 ? by Gus Nukem	Dec 25th, 2005 10:18:20 AM
not necessarily comics that were released this year, but what you read and enjoyed this year. For me: 303 (Avatar press - Garth Ennis, Jacen Burrows), All-Star Superman, We3, Black Hole, lots of back issues of Y the Last Man, Joe R. Lansdale's By Bizarre Hands (Avatar press), Nighthawk, the Mister Miracle TPB from DC, every Stray Bullets I happened to read this year, along with DD vs. Punisher, 'the Amazing Story of Superman-Red and Superman-Blue' reprinted in the DCU greatest imaginary tales TPB. I believe some titles elude me at the moment... *** 'The AMAZING STORY of SUPERMAN-RED and SUPERMAN-BLUE! ' can be read here: http://superman.ws/tales2/redb lue/ **
now that it's Christmas... by Gus Nukem	Dec 25th, 2005 10:20:51 AM
who will give a toss about Blue Skies in games?? http://tinyurl.com/8vags Anyone played Sonic Rush? Opinions?
PS by Gus Nukem	Dec 25th, 2005 10:29:33 AM
at the moment I am going through the complete Alan Moore's Supreme. Here, I'd like to thanks ++ much my kind and generous friend D.C.
merry xmas by heystantheman!	Dec 25th, 2005 11:22:21 AM
Couple o' things... 1) Why am I on here X-Mas day, I have 6 pages due next week of...ooops, almost gave it away. 2) Whatchoo Tawkin about, everybody! 3) Hey supes, I'm just saying that if NOW the DCU is "realistic" enough to make secret Id's untenale, it just makes it harder to "believe" everything else. You may not agree, thats cool. I'm not going to stop buying Infinite Crisis anyway. 4) Ross Andru is so damn underrated as an artist. A wonderful guy, a wonderful artist. For me, he was the Spidey artist. 5) For xmas, I bought myself Absolute Watchmen (about a month ago, Xmas comes early when I'm giving myself gifts). It's astonishing how the rescanned and recolored work looks at that size. For me, and others may not agree, it really was liking reading something new. By comparison, the AE of Crisis was just the recolored work for the trade scaled up to AE size and it shows, a little blurry, not crisp like Watchmen. DC should have done better. PEACE!
We went to Disneyland! And it was crazy GREAT! by superhero	Dec 25th, 2005 12:37:39 PM
And I HATE Disneyland!
Favorite reads of 2005 by El Vale	Dec 25th, 2005 01:32:23 PM
I think most of these aren't 2005 releases but fuck it, i read them this year: Punisher: The end, Batman: Year one, Fables, Promethea, Maus, Ultimates, Y: The last man, and the best one: From Hell.***On another subject, it's impossible for Heystan! to reveal his identity and be able to say anything. Of course there will be fans, but there will also be detractors who will devalue his every opinion. "Look who's talking, you can't even draw ______" or "Who the fuck are you to say anything? You haven't done anything good since______" or "You suck my _______"
but... by blackthought	Dec 25th, 2005 01:46:37 PM
you love disneyworld!
El Vale by heystantheman!	Dec 25th, 2005 07:58:24 PM
Yeah, I mean on one level, sure I don't want people just saying "hey, you suck at drawing X so why should I care about your opinion?" nevermind that they might not draw anything for anybody. But mostly, I lik ebeing anon. because I can objectively talk about published work by the people who employ me and/or might be peers.
My God! Somebody Else That Hates Disneyland! I Hate Disneyland by Buzz Maverik	Dec 25th, 2005 10:51:57 PM
Brother! (Although I like that song DIZ-KNEE-LAND by Dada..."I just drank a fifth of gin, I'm goin' to Dis-knee-land").
Is it weird if you keep having recurring dreams of Disney World? by Thalya	Dec 25th, 2005 11:58:28 PM
But not like the big bright Superman-version that everyone knows and loves, but the more Identity Crisis-like Disneyland with small moments and oddly few crowds.. Subconscious saying "Remember your inner child", much? Though I doubt I'll have that dream tonight: just finished watching my DVD of the BBC The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe..ah, catharsis. It was just as good as when I was a kid. Tomorrow: Rainbow Brite and the Star Stealer, this weekend: the first book of my Harry Potter boxset. Best. Christmas. Ever. Though I'm debating: do I use my B&N giftcard for regular Watchmen or use it to augment a splurge on Absolute Watchmen? And how about you guys? You get everything you had your heart set on? How was the party, Vale?
Thalya by El Vale	Dec 26th, 2005 12:27:21 AM
Well first of all, if i were you i'd buy the Absolute Watchmen thingie, but that's because i already have the regular thingie. But still, i mean...bigger art, better color, extras...where could you go wrong? Second, i got mostly what i told you i'd get but i also got a surprise gift: A basket full of like Serrano ham, salami, spanish chorizo, gouda cheese, camambert cheese, brie cheese, olives, everything! I love that shit...thank you baby Jesus.
Oh and the party! by El Vale	Dec 26th, 2005 12:37:20 AM
It was awesome, lots of drinking, lots of dancing, lots of laughing. And great food.
Best read of 2005? FABLES, hands down. by Psynapse	Dec 26th, 2005 11:25:47 AM
Bill Willingham knows his shit what can I say? Oh and here's hoping EVERYONE had an awesome Christmas, I sure did and it wasn't about what I got (although I did get some nice things) it was about what I was able to give. Weird how that works huh?
Yeah Psynapse, but by El Vale	Dec 26th, 2005 01:39:32 PM
YOu didn't give ME anything, and my feelings were hurt. Is that what Christmas is about, you horrible person?!
.... by blackthought	Dec 26th, 2005 04:55:11 PM
a cog xmas without gift exchanges...must of been a lean year in crime fighting...
X-Factor, Madrox on the cover is a stone cold Fox!!! by Throb	Dec 27th, 2005 02:14:39 AM

Does anyone else think Layla Miller, the girl from House of M an by Throb	Dec 27th, 2005 02:38:17 AM

Executive decision by Gus Nukem	Dec 27th, 2005 12:51:24 PM
http://tinyurl.com/9pzb4
Anyone else think that stantheman is some kid really wanting eve by Sayhey Kid	Dec 27th, 2005 03:40:33 PM
"I'm finishing six pages of...oops almost gave it away." Please.
I am bored. Bored.Bored. Bored. Bored! by superhero	Dec 27th, 2005 06:38:41 PM

I am bored. Bored.Bored. Bored. Bored! by superhero	Dec 27th, 2005 06:38:55 PM

Didn't mean to posty twice! by superhero	Dec 27th, 2005 06:39:47 PM
Guess AICN knows how bored I actually am!
Don't be bored! by El Vale	Dec 27th, 2005 07:25:08 PM
Go out, have some fun. Talkbacks dead cause everyone's...i don't know...holidaying
Yes but Vale...... by Psynapse	Dec 27th, 2005 08:42:38 PM
I would have thought that the gift of free will would be enough for any of my hallucinations.
what does this have to do with monkeys? by blackthought	Dec 27th, 2005 11:07:10 PM

Schleppy? by The Heathen	Dec 28th, 2005 11:48:37 AM
Hey Cogs, I've been in the land of "no computerville" for the last few days. Hope everyone had a Merry Christmas and
"what does this have to do with monkeys?" by Psynapse	Dec 28th, 2005 01:32:41 PM
Well, considering that monkeys are yet another of my numerous hallucinations, I'd say it's all connected.
AyeeeEEEEHHH!!! SPOILER by The Heathen	Dec 28th, 2005 02:48:17 PM
So long Banshee. : ( I don't know what it is about the second issue, but I found I liked it a whole lot more than the first. Actually, it made me like the first issue a little more. It FELT like an X-Men book in a good way, well besides Banshee exploding into a jet.
What X-Book is that Heathen? by El Vale	Dec 28th, 2005 03:36:13 PM

Deadly Genesis my friend by The Heathen	Dec 28th, 2005 04:34:45 PM
forgot to specify, apologies.
WTF?!?! by Psynapse	Dec 28th, 2005 06:58:10 PM
They did NOT just off Banshee!! Oohh Joey Q you are such a homicidal bastard.
Hey Heathen.. by Thalya	Dec 28th, 2005 07:13:24 PM
Have you heard some of the latest on 52* and the like? They've announced the main cast, 'n stuff..
thayla... by blackthought	Dec 28th, 2005 07:58:07 PM
am i in it?
Who the fuck is Banshee? by El Vale	Dec 28th, 2005 08:04:54 PM
I see the TB is slowly coming back to life. I am happy
Aren't you still brooding in the cage? by Thalya	Dec 28th, 2005 08:09:25 PM
Or did E-2 Supes come talk to you? As far as I know: The Question, Rene Montoya, Booster Gold, Elongated Man, Steel, and Black Adam. How was your holiday?
banshee... by blackthought	Dec 28th, 2005 11:18:56 PM
is black tom's brother and siren's dad and um...and i always brood...i'll brood on my wedding day for sure too...i love the question and black adam is the shiznit...oh 52...suh-weet.
STEEL??? You mean that movie with the Kazaam guy? Can't th by Shigeru	Dec 29th, 2005 09:12:15 AM
I mean, really. Hooray for everyone else, tho. But one question: who the eff is Rene Montoya?
No wait, not the Kazaam guy...the SHAQ-FU guy! by Shigeru	Dec 29th, 2005 09:14:42 AM
Anybody else still rock that out on the Genesis?
where is the 52 news ? by Gus Nukem	Dec 29th, 2005 12:15:42 PM
link, if you may. Thanks.
Shigeru & Gus (a new sitcom?) by Thalya	Dec 29th, 2005 12:47:44 PM
1) Rene Montoya - the recently-outed-by-Rucka main detective in Gotham Central and who dates back at least as far as B:TAS. 2) Gus: http://tinyurl.com/aa8kj 3) Oh, and apparently hot news from yesterday: Busiek is exclusive to DC now.
lol by Gus Nukem	Dec 29th, 2005 12:57:26 PM
No wonder why I hadn't checked out that link, since my LCS won't have received IC #3 for 3 more weeks.
Umm..THE CAST of 52 is the entire DCU..... by Psynapse	Dec 29th, 2005 01:18:00 PM
Those are just specific characters Newsarama was asking about.
Rene Montoya by Shigeru	Dec 29th, 2005 01:19:06 PM
I guessed Gotham Central. It sounds like a cop name. Is she a sassy street-smart latina woman? *** If you are going to the comic shop today peeps, BUY THE NEW OWLY. I cried like a million times reading it, and yes I'm man enough to admit it.
I knew that Psy... by Thalya	Dec 29th, 2005 01:42:41 PM
It'd be some weird and wacky stories with only those characters as a cast. But those I'm guessing are the "4-6 main characters" who will carry the series. And I'm worried. If anyone's seen the previews of Blue Beetle #1, I'm worried why Guy's pissed and why we won't see these 6 in OYL.. **** Shigeru: you got it, pretty much (though I say that having never read GC. I'm not so sure about the sassy part.).
Sweetie I NEVER doubt your knowledge of the facts... by Psynapse	Dec 29th, 2005 01:57:38 PM
Just your taste in men. (and really that was for the others who might've thought otherwise)laugh K, that was funny!
Gack! by Thalya	Dec 29th, 2005 02:21:21 PM
leaps upon thee with red ink! (no wait, that was my geometry teacher grading papers..wrong turn of phrase..) To the cage, mister! I can't help it if the very sight of the Calculator makes me all hot and bothered, you know that.. Blackthought, looks like you've got company.
To Be Viginally Geeky Here, Banshee & Black Tom Were Cousins, No by Buzz Maverik	Dec 29th, 2005 05:12:36 PM
I doubt if anyone was ever clamoring for a Banshee solo title or to make Banshee one of the Nuevo Avengers, but it's kind of weird that Black Tom and Siryn might now be better known characters. An ex-Interpol agent, Banshee started out as a foe of the original X-Men, but later became part of the All New / All Different team (I dunno what happened to the other characters, Wolversomething, etc). Claremont and Cockrum did some interesting things with the character, making him considerably older than any X-Man to date (we didn't know that Wolverine was about 75 years old at the time). He subtly took leadership of the team whenever Cyclops wasn't with them, in a way that didn't rankle the egos of Wolverine or Storm. One of his best moments was the X-Men's first visit to Muir Island, just to check things out for Banshee's new girlfriend Moira McTaggert, when everything metal around them comes alive and tries to smash them...oops, one of the "patients", Magneto, has been freed by Erik the Red and he's a little pissed. Banshee kept everyone alive long enough to get their asses handed them by the Landlord of M (until Cyclops showed up to save their bacon). Later, Banshee was seriously injured and lost his power for years when he used his sonic scream to contain a beam from a comic book gizmo of Moses Magnum that would have sank Japan. The Morlock healer eventually restored his power after the Mutant Massacre. I guess he returned to the team after I stopped reading X-books. Jamming in as many charcters to waste as possible. Killing minor characters seems pointless. Kill a major one and you shake everyone up and can get a decade of plots (although we've all seen that done). Kill a minor one and you're not doing much unless you have a whole lot more going on and aren't going to claim realism ("Banshee'd die in real life." "Uh, maybe, but in real life everybody'd laugh at him for calling himself Banshee in the first place and he wouldn't have a super scream or the power of flight.").
marvel at my perfect english... by Gus Nukem	Dec 29th, 2005 06:40:28 PM
"Where IS the 52 news" - No wonder I am so popular with the female crowds. Like, woaw. English is my forte and I aim to kill, BABY.
the best Frank Miller I read this year by Gus Nukem	Dec 29th, 2005 07:03:13 PM
Supposedly (and very probably so) the Y1 script by Frank Miller and Darren Aronofsky (there is no credit for D.A.). No wonder they were denied continuing with it. * leonscripts.users5.50megs.com/ scripts/BATMANYEARONEscript.ht m * I highly recommend it to Miller-philes, it will be worth every minute of your time *** Thanks to Shigeru for the link.
good god by blackthought	Dec 29th, 2005 07:20:55 PM

by Gus Nukem	Dec 29th, 2005 07:22:18 PM

by Gus Nukem	Dec 29th, 2005 07:23:37 PM
That's it. That's the spirit. And now, the rest of you. MARVEL.
Anyon see the new issue of All Star Batman? by superhero	Dec 29th, 2005 07:53:40 PM
Jesus...he's not even IN it! I mean Black Canary looks great but what the fuck...? Is Miller even trying????
no new column this week? by Shigeru	Dec 30th, 2005 07:56:25 AM
If that Y1 script got made it would provoke even MORE fan outrage than 10 moviemacks combined. It's pretty out there. ie- Bats having a mouthful of gold teeth.
I Can Only Conclude... by buster00	Dec 30th, 2005 08:58:21 AM
that Frank Miller just flat out HATES BATMAN now. That's the only reasonable explanation for this shit. Miller is so sick of people jacking him off about his Bat-stories that he's developed some subconcious hatred for the character. That's why his new Bat-book is such a goddamn mess. That's my theory.
I highly...HIGHLY doubt that Batscript is authentic...but then I by superhero	Dec 30th, 2005 10:46:19 AM

No I believe that is genuine. by Shigeru	Dec 30th, 2005 11:02:30 AM
I've heard/read comments from various sources on the Miller script and it fits the description. *** ASS B&R is Frank's middle finger to the fandom that still clamors over his Batman tales. It reads like the polar opposite bizarro DKR. And yes, it's complete shit.
he DID NOT have gold teeth by Gus Nukem	Dec 30th, 2005 11:20:41 AM
He painted the dentures white.
oh god by blackthought	Dec 30th, 2005 12:09:28 PM

Yeah, yeah, okay... by Shigeru	Dec 30th, 2005 12:13:10 PM
But if you think moviemack and others went ape over the Begins costume, wrap your mind around the reaction to this: "BRUCE cuts a HOCKEY MASK in half and spray-paints it black along with the AMMO BELT, the GROIN PROTECTOR and KNIFE. He paints a pair of STEEL DENTURES white."
obviously, nobody would care about that by Gus Nukem	Dec 30th, 2005 12:29:48 PM
Neither you, nor I, nor anyone else cares for the opinions of others on what he likes or dislikes. Especially the opinions of fanboys; which admittedly I (we) may be (hey, this AICN and what we're discussing is... blah blah blah). We (the people who've read it) can all see why this script wasn't made into Batman 5. This is a moment when we can't convince each other on what each likes (and how could we?). Your opinion on this is apparent and so is mine and that is all, I suppose.
And what's more... we should leave it at that, BEFORE... by Gus Nukem	Dec 30th, 2005 12:57:23 PM
the internet gets broken in half... AGAIN.
I mean, seriously, if that Batscript is authentic then Frank Mil by superhero	Dec 30th, 2005 01:24:26 PM
And that's saying a lot...:O0
Batman cutting a hockey mask in half for his mask? Whaaa? by The Heathen	Dec 30th, 2005 03:17:43 PM
Wow, that got my attention. That's just
Mockingbird identity by The Heathen	Dec 30th, 2005 03:21:37 PM
I'd also like to point out that "technically" Alexander Luthor was my "for safe measure" backup pick for Mockingbird after Joker when we all were guessing a few months ago. So, do I get a cookie or something? SWEET! : ) And Thalya, at least you don't pick the complete crazies like Superboy Prime and Alex huh? I'm hoping our boy Noah is on to them and survives when they find out he knows!
new column is up by The Heathen	Dec 30th, 2005 04:43:54 PM
: )
still can't believe... by blackthought	Dec 30th, 2005 07:02:17 PM
you thought the joker was the mockingbird...joker is too much of a loon to be calm and elusive type. what if noah dies?
Yeah how much of a dumbass do you have to be to think the Joker by El Vale	Dec 30th, 2005 09:28:53 PM
That was my moviemack impression, thank you very much. So who was the Mockingbird?
ha by blackthought	Jan 11th, 2006 08:52:23 AM

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