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Who Plays The TV Version of BLADE THE VAMPIRE SLAYER??

Well... by Josef K	Nov 7th, 2005 08:53:27 AM
FX...I like what they are doing
Really? by TempusFugitive	Nov 7th, 2005 08:54:16 AM
Is this trip necessary?
THIRD! by Squashua	Nov 7th, 2005 09:04:26 AM
I bet the other action star was Gary Coleman.
The other actor? by MemBirdman	Nov 7th, 2005 09:06:35 AM
C'mon...you can tell me. It'll be our little secret.
that lazy cocked eye of his always distracted me by trentwalker	Nov 7th, 2005 09:09:50 AM
He was good on The Shield, as a rapper/gang leader, but seriously, how will they explain that cock-eye? A side effect of vampirism?
Sixth! by BigAssFan	Nov 7th, 2005 09:15:41 AM
Why didn't they just have Snipes play Blade on the TV show...he's got nothing else going on??
I agree... by Brendon	Nov 7th, 2005 09:17:16 AM
Snipes shoulda had this part. Blade 2 I love, the other two... I don't. Certainly not. I expect this to be more in the Trinity vein (ahem) than anything else...
I officially lost all interest in this show. They cast a rapper. by Mr. Profit	Nov 7th, 2005 09:44:26 AM
And no I'm not a racist guy who is oblivious to the fact that rap music is ruling the charts. But there are plenty of talented black actors out there. The logical choice is casting the unemployed Michael Jai White, especially since he is proficient in martial arts. Casting a lame washed up rapper like Sticky Fingaz is the worst casting. I know many rapper actors have turned in good performances (LL, Ludacris, Eve) But often times you get Halloween Resurrection where Bus a Bus aka Busta Rhymes Karate Kicked Michael Myers and thus made a mockery of the franchise. I don't like this at all. And will he get his lazy eye fixed already?
Me and Jack, the black vampiyah findah. by Some Dude	Nov 7th, 2005 09:47:31 AM
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Throw your gunz in the air! Wave 'em like you just don't by wash	Nov 7th, 2005 09:55:03 AM
That was the jam back in the day...Onyx was the shit.
I looked for a picture of this guy by jackinitraw	Nov 7th, 2005 09:55:26 AM
and this is what I found... http://photos1.blogger.com/img /158/2329/640/sticky7.jpg ...Looks like he wants to suck something other than your blood.
The other guy by droog	Nov 7th, 2005 09:59:24 AM
Last I heard, Michael Jai White was being sought, and to be honest he's who I expected as he'd be a perfect fit in demeanor and physicality. But Mr. Fingaz is actually pretty good on the FX show Over There. And the eye appears to be fixed.
Michael Jai White gets my vote too! by ComputerGuy68	Nov 7th, 2005 10:14:54 AM
pass on the rappers please...
This smells like Highlander. by Citizen Arcane	Nov 7th, 2005 10:24:38 AM
A TV series continuing a movie story that was pretty well concluded ad nauseum. Then again, Highlander ran like 30 seasons so I guess that's a good thing. Didn't Snipes whine that he wasn't in Trinity enough? Give it to him. His films are pretty much straight to video now anyway.
A 20 year boom? Wow, that sure is a short amount of time by Terry_1978	Nov 7th, 2005 10:27:51 AM
I wouldn't exactly call rap a trend anymore...if it's been in play for about 2 decades, it's officially part of the culture, big guy. They've been calling it a fad since its inception, and it hasn't fallen yet. I'll sit back and see how Mr. Fingaz fares in the first ep.
This blows. I was hoping it'd be Stan Lee. :-( by Flansy	Nov 7th, 2005 10:33:56 AM
'nuff said.
He's a great choice... Rappers are all actors anyways by modlight	Nov 7th, 2005 10:36:55 AM
If you have seen him in anything, he is a better actor than he is rapper, and to be honest if they lose Blade's High-Fade than he could be a much more serious/badass blade than snipes ever was. And as for Rapper actors... You think all those guys are drug dealers and murderers who are also saavy enough to have a career in rap and not get arrested for their previous crimes that they more or less confess to on albums? Or is it more likely that many of them are just playing a role of this tough gangster when most of the time they were working on their poetry and listening to music as they were growing up...
So did OVER THERE get picked up for a second season yet? by Shermdawg	Nov 7th, 2005 10:38:49 AM

Todd Bridges. by InspectorDoppler	Nov 7th, 2005 11:04:17 AM
I'm totally serious.
I prefer my fingers stiff and little personally, but each to his by seppukudkurosawa	Nov 7th, 2005 11:22:02 AM

Over there has not been picked up for a second series by Mr Cairo	Nov 7th, 2005 11:25:34 AM
FX will not renew Over There for a second season based on the series' ratings performance over its 13-epsiode run. Released by FX FX will not renew Over There for a second season based on the series' ratings performance over its 13-epsiode run. (Please see ratings information below). Statement from John Landgraf, President and General Manager of FX Networks "I'm deeply proud of Over There, which was beautifully produced, acted, written and directed. The series was arguably the most critically acclaimed new television show of the year, a fact which made the decision not to renew it all the more difficult. That decision was motivated entirely by Over There's ratings performance and our belief that the numbers were reflective of what the show is about, rather than its quality or entertainment value. While are passionately committed to fostering great television, we are an advertiser supported network and the size of our audience is vital to our bottom line. "It was a deeply gratifying experience for everyone at FX to work with Steven Bochco, Chris Gerolmo and their immensely talented and dedicated team of collaborators, whose artistry was reflected in each episode." RATINGS INFORMATION - For its 13-week run (Wednesdays, 10 PM ET/PT), Over There averaged 2.1 million total viewers and 1.3 million Adults 18-49. - Over There enjoyed a very strong premiere with 4.1 million total viewers and 2.4 million Adults 18-49. - Over There leveled off to an average of 2.1 million viewers and 1.3 million Adults 18-49 for episodes 2-9. - Over There then began a steady decline, eventually bottoming out at 1.35 million viewers and 882,000 for the season finale. - Over its final four episodes, Over There averaged 1.6 million total viewers and 990,000 Adults 18-49. - In comparison to FX's other drama series (most recent/current season): Nip/Tuck is averaging 4.1 million total viewers and 2.9 million Adults 18-49 (#1 in basic cable on A18-49) The Shield averaged 3.2 million total viewers and 2.0 million Adults 18-49 Rescue Me averaged 2.8 million total viewers and 1.8 million Adults 18-49
lazy eyes killah! by Holodigm	Nov 7th, 2005 11:43:09 AM
that's pretty much all i have to say
It should have been Isaiah by Napolean Solo	Nov 7th, 2005 11:44:33 AM

It should have been Isaiah by Napolean Solo	Nov 7th, 2005 11:44:34 AM

Washington that is by Napolean Solo	Nov 7th, 2005 11:45:12 AM
or Wood Harris from The Wire.
wow, did he leave The Shield for Over There? by Strabo	Nov 7th, 2005 11:52:37 AM
...or did the writers write him out because they wanted a new character and nemesis for Glenn Close/Monica Rawling? If he left on his own, then, damn, that was a bad career move. In any case, they need to bring Kern back in Season 5. Hey Herc, how about a mention for the new Season 5 teaser trailer, ehh?
This series will have exactly 22 minutes to interest me. by Childe Roland	Nov 7th, 2005 12:01:47 PM
And if, after that, I do not find myself at least gleefully mocking it, it will forever be stricken from the recording roster on my DVR. Annnnnd go.
20 years? No... by ZeroCorpse	Nov 7th, 2005 12:07:05 PM
Modern rap is NOTHING like 80s rap, so don't even TRY to say they're related. 80's rap is already dated and silly-sounding. The modern version of hip-hop is nowhere near 20 years old. Try about 10, instead. We can trace it to Public Enemy & NWA in the early 90s. I don't see ANYBODY wandering around rapping "The Message" these days. I don't seen ANY love for Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five, and there's very little attention paid to Doug E. Fresh, Slick Rick, and the Fat Boys' contributions to rap. Rev Run just put out a CD, but it's not exactly flyin' off the shelf. The only Run DMC anybody EVER hears is "Walk This Way." Trying to connect old school rap to modern hip-hop is like a Slipknot fan trying to connect modern rock with the progressive rock of the 70s. Sure, there are some minor similarities (and rip-offs) but the two are in no way identical.
Sad about "Over There" by superzario	Nov 7th, 2005 12:22:10 PM
As a member of the USAF and someone that has been to the dessert to support the war, It was good to see a TV show that showed the good and bad about being "Over There". I know my friends and I are all a bit upset by the show being canceled. It was something we all watched and enjoyed. Maybe some other network will do something similar with better results. (ratings wise)
I grew up in The Bronx, and Old School Rap does NOT sound silly. by Mr. Profit	Nov 7th, 2005 12:26:58 PM
I have great memories attached to many of the songs. Also you should see a nightclub when an old school jam starts playing. People go crazy. It's not silly when you grow up listening to it. Hair Metal can seem silly to me, but I did not listen to that type of music, so I don't rag on it But that's the same with all music.
Eh, whatever by Ribbons	Nov 7th, 2005 12:28:22 PM

The Writer is... by Drinky Crow	Nov 7th, 2005 12:45:33 PM
I have it from a reliable source that Geoff Johns is writing this show.
Sticky doesnt seem quite the vampire hunter type. by methical	Nov 7th, 2005 12:51:23 PM
I have to agree with the Michael Jai White argument, or to just have Snipes do it himself, now that he'll be relying on the Steven Seagal School of-straight-to-dvd acting.
I hear Sunnydale High has an opening for a Vampire Slayer. by cookylamoo	Nov 7th, 2005 01:05:07 PM
But I can't remember any Black kids going there.
"Don't push me 'cause I'm close to the edge..." by ComputerGuy68	Nov 7th, 2005 01:12:26 PM
I still like that song.
blade trinity by goremonger	Nov 7th, 2005 01:21:46 PM
suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked. and I blame Goyer for all the pathetic attempts at humor in Batman Begins.
Michael Jai White was my suggestion... by lynxpro	Nov 7th, 2005 01:29:56 PM
That was my thought on the other Blade related TalkBacks. Same goes for Brian J. White (Tavon from The Shield) who is a martial artist in real life. Sticky looks more like LL Cool J than he does resembling anything close to Snipes. Michael Jai has the muscle tone for a Blade character, but Brian J. - like Snipes - has the proper background.
Lazy eye... by SnowMann	Nov 7th, 2005 01:33:25 PM
Blade wears shades, like, 98% of the time. They should be able to work it out. And Sunnydale High is a crater.
Over There was awesome... by lynxpro	Nov 7th, 2005 01:37:03 PM
Kinda like Tour of Duty but only in the desert. It was probably too pro-military forces for the liberal media critic establishment to rave about. For example, there was nothing good to show of the Insurgents...especially their motivations.
Mr. Profit... THAT was what made a mockery of the Halloween fran by Uncooked_Meat	Nov 7th, 2005 02:19:38 PM
Not Halloween:H20, or any of the other abysmal entries after part 2? I think maybe you're blaming Busta for an already ruined franchise.
is this the guy? by itanshi	Nov 7th, 2005 02:19:40 PM
http://travel.howstuffworks.co m/niagara18.htm I dun mind him being a rapper, i've seen some with decent acting abilities. Their singing should not matter.
Not Michael Jai White by Vern	Nov 7th, 2005 02:37:45 PM
I haven't seen enough of this "Sticky FIngaz" gentleman to have an opinion but please, would people stop saying Michael Jai White? I mean I liked him in his scene that was cut out of Kill Bill as much as the next guy but he is not the be all and end all of black action heroes. I guess he was okay in EXIT WOUNDS but he's no Wesley Snipes. Not just because he's not as good of an actor but he just doesn't have the charisma or the presence. Plus, he was in another comic strip adaptation, this movie called "Spawn" where he wears a rubber halloween costume and fights against an evil farting midget clown from hell. I might have actually imagined that one but if not I would say that was a point against him. Anyway my final point is this. Somebody said this guy didn't look enough like Wesley. To me, it is important that you don't just have some guy dressed up as Wesley with a fade and sunglasses. If that happens there is no possible way to take it seriously. I mean it's probaly not gonna be good anyway so I shouldn't worry about it but on the off chance it's gonna work, it's gonna be by establishing its own identity separately from the movies and not just being an hour long low budget straight to video Blade sequel with different actors who aren't allowed to say "motherfucker" because it's TV.
Maybe the producers want to go more in-depth into the character by Prof. Pop-Cult	Nov 7th, 2005 02:42:57 PM
In the movies, Blade is a cipher and doesn't exude much personality at all. (Perhaps that's the point, and not anything negative about Snipes' performance of the character.) But maybe in the series the producers want to focus more on character development and expansion for Blade himself. So perhaps they looked more for an actor who had the acting chops to deliver, and not someone who just had the martial arts skills.
Vern is absolutely right. This series has to stand on its own, a by Prof. Pop-Cult	Nov 7th, 2005 02:44:48 PM
And here's a good example of this: Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
That should have used Kel of Kennan and Kel by Big Bad Clone	Nov 7th, 2005 02:52:25 PM
He could kill vampires and use that frog voice from Good Burger. Really, hwo could it be worse than it's shaping up to be?
The Difference Between Blade and Buffy in Film by KenKRK	Nov 7th, 2005 03:02:57 PM
The Blade movies were actually successful. And there was more than one of them, so obviously, there was an audience who enjoyed the character in film. Buffy the movie was a campy and forgettable flop that most of those actors probably cross off their resumes. People watching that series more than likely forgot about the film, whereas Blade has proven to be a far more memorable character. Clearly the majority of talkbackers were hoping for something like the movies, even saying that they should just cast Wesley, which would be plausible if him AND New Line didn't screw each other over. Blade in film form is practically more revered than comic Blade.
Slam! Duh duh Dah! Duh duh Dah! by docfalken	Nov 7th, 2005 03:09:17 PM
Let the boyz be boyz!
Why this will stink badly. by Aves	Nov 7th, 2005 03:20:48 PM
Supposedly this will be set after Trinity and if that is the case ugh. Trinity was basically an intro to the Nightstalkers. The only thing that made it a Blade movie was the fact Blade was in it. It'll be the same crap as usual. Blade meets girl in first episode they'll hate each other at first until he has to rescue her. The fake sexual tension will be a pathetic attempt at a "selling point." He'll be fighting some Euro-trash vampire every week or more accurately his "minions" while attempting to stop some lame-ass plan to turn the whole world into vampires. It'll last 13 episodes and we'll never know how it ends and more importantly we won't care.
Leave it to Goyer to cast a black gay guy as Blade. by CrispyOne	Nov 7th, 2005 03:22:44 PM

Fuck rap by GiftedInThePants	Nov 7th, 2005 03:27:37 PM
Rap sucks ass. It's a fad that's only been really popular for about 5 years. Rap fans will listen to anything with a beat. Rock fans want actualy lyrics, which is why rock is in a slump with all this emo shit. Rock>rap. FUcking fad.
Michael Jai White by stale mate	Nov 7th, 2005 03:52:04 PM
Why is this guys name appearing here half a dozen times? He's not a great actor (not even a very good one IMHO) so why is he the only person being mentioned by talkbackers who don't want SF Jones? Because the list of black actors that people can actually name is anorexic. I could count them on one leprosy-infected hand. Stop bitchin and write your congressman or something constructive that gets more black actors in films. More black actors=a better chance at casting a black actor with talent.
I hope he rhymes a lot and they put rims on his car...and a big by jackinitraw	Nov 7th, 2005 03:53:46 PM
I'm Blade, and I keel yo ignint ass mo fo. I'm all slayin the Dorf and that white ass Parker Posey. Na'mean? Bitches can't handle the flow of my slayin. I gots my own company...Bladowear! Uses slave labour and costs a fortune but you gonna buy it cause I gots one eye over heres and one eye way da fuk over der. Step to the rythm step step. Rap sucks.
Rap its trash by GiftedInThePants	Nov 7th, 2005 03:57:02 PM
Fuck Shitty Cent and his shitty fucking movie advertised on this site. Rap is fucking garbage.
interesting choice by MaulRat	Nov 7th, 2005 04:07:37 PM
And here I thought they'd go with someone obvious like Omar Epps, or Michael Jai-White... boy is my face red....... I think it's funny that people here are commenting that Michael Jai-White is not a great actor........... outrageous that we compare him to a thespian of the Wesley Snipes ilk......... my god.. the nerve...
Blade by SteelSimian	Nov 7th, 2005 04:18:05 PM
why not just get it into an animated show. I'm sure they can do something like that Spawn cartoon that HBO had. And FX gets away with saying shit, asshole, and dick so they wouldn't have to PG it too much. I don't think Snipes wants anything to do with the Blade property since Goyer practically wrote him out of Trinity and instead made a movie about the supporting characters, leaving nothing but a couple of menacing stares and kicking a little ass here and there.
Bullshit, Buffy and Blade have the same exact setup. by cookylamoo	Nov 7th, 2005 04:19:35 PM
There's the vampire slayer, the teacher/reference guy, the computer whiz, the dumb assistant, and the good guy vampire. All that's missing are the pom poms.
Blade was around before Buffy by GiftedInThePants	Nov 7th, 2005 04:29:05 PM
FYI.
I'm Balde and I'm here to say/ I'm the vampire slayi by Big Bad Clone	Nov 7th, 2005 04:39:25 PM
I cut off their heads without my parent's permission/ Cause my mom was killed by a vamp on a mission/ Deacon Frost was his name/ and he played no game/ I cut up his ass in the first blade/ I was too hot to handle/Too cold to hold/ if you hate sunlight light and you give me sass/ I'll take my neon syringe and kick your ass.... hot damn I'm bored
fuck no by donnidurden	Nov 7th, 2005 04:48:54 PM
sticky fingaz? who the fuck is he? I dont give a flying fuck who he is!the only person who could do a good job of blade is michael jai white he did a pretty good job as spawn i just wish the top brass at studios would stop trying to cast fucking rappers in films these its starting to piss me fucking off. p.s i saw kiss kiss bang bang it rocked thnx for the recomendation harry
i also immediately thought 'omar epps' when reading the by white owl	Nov 7th, 2005 04:53:33 PM
and taye diggs. who else is a popular mainstream, serious black actor these days? I can only think of those two. Okay well Jamie Foxx is hitting it big these days. So that makes it three.
horrible choice by thevisitor	Nov 7th, 2005 05:07:51 PM
I guess I shouldn't be too surprised. This is afterall a Hollywood industry that left charismatic black talent like Terrence Howard out in the cold for years as they rushed to go after such thespians as DMX. That trend had appeared to be turning around for the better but I guess there are always idiots like Goyer around to go that route. Hell, we all know Goyer doesn't care about Blade anyway. Just check out that third movie. I'm sure Goyer will cast some pretty white boy as a siekick and that that dude will probably get all the women and all the true interesting storylines. Blade will be relegated to an afterthought on his own show and get a bunch of stupid lines to spout. Fuck Goyer. What a joke that on the credits we are actually going to see the "name" Sticky Fingaz. What was that moron thinking? Oh and GiftedInYourOwnMind, will you PLEASE stop your annoying rants about rap music that has nothing to do with this topic? I hate to break it to you but rap/hip-hop has been around since the late 70s. When Run DMC became an MTV regular in the mid 80s people back then kept saying rap was a fad and wouldn't last much longer. Wrong. Its still here and frankly it doesn't appear to be going away anytime soon. Disco was a fad. Grunge was a fad. I can argue that punk rock was a fad. Rap though isn't. So just deal with it. Yeah, it isn't my favorite music either but neither is country music and that has been around forever.
another complaint by thevisitor	Nov 7th, 2005 05:10:52 PM
Fingaz is bald. Making Blade bald is as wrong as making Shaft bald...oh, wait!
Last Film by Talarn	Nov 7th, 2005 05:13:56 PM
I am sure it will please everyone to know that his last film, currently in post-production, was the sequel to the always popular Uwe Boll 2003 masterpiece, House of the Dead. That is all.
"it came down to the wire between him and another well known act by Capt. Murphy	Nov 7th, 2005 05:16:06 PM
You mean Snipes couldn't cut it? Poor Wesley, he had so much promise. I never thought I'd say this, but thank the Flying Spaghetti Monster this is going to be on Spike. It wouldn't last 4 episodes on Fox.
FOX is the devil by SteelSimian	Nov 7th, 2005 05:44:38 PM
the only good show they've kept in their line up is House . . and i'm thinking it would be much better on FX with some swearing and some paraplegic buttcheeks here and there . . . err . . i mean hot chick doctor buttcheeks.
rap by ILK	Nov 7th, 2005 05:45:00 PM
People keep referring to rap as a style (something that will go away) instead of what it is, it's own genre. (which will stay forever) Someone out there will always be rapping. Get used to and over it. Will it dominate forever? Let's just say we won't be having any 10 years later episodes of "CRIBS". And if we do it'll be because said artist found jesus and that's where the money comes from now. (and fuck you, that applies to metal artists, too)
They shoulda Casted a blacktino to play blade by Rcamacho2278	Nov 7th, 2005 05:48:57 PM
and name him.. EL BLADE! ORALE!
Gifted in the Pants by Bryan	Nov 7th, 2005 05:58:08 PM
I just want to say that it warms my heart that people are still using that "rap is only a fad" argument that they were using when I was a teenager in the late '80s and early '90s. The more things change, the more they stay the same. You even have to explain that 50 Cent is only a commercial product and not a representation of the true art of hip hop. Back then we had to explain MC Hammer. I mean, it was 1989 when DJ Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince won the first rap Grammy. Since then the guy has gone on to get married, have kids, have a long running sitcom, do many huge blockbuster terrible movies, and get nominated for an Oscar. I'm pretty sure pet rocks and the Macarena were not able to go through that many career phases. And if I had to guess your age, I would say that you were either a baby or not even born at the time when rap became mainstream and people first started to say it was only a fad, "like disco." Making that argument more than 15 years later is so preposterous as to be adorable. You are officially in the Flat Earth Society. And God bless you for sharing your views with us.
jackinitraw... by Junior Frenger	Nov 7th, 2005 06:23:36 PM
"and this is what I found... http://photos1.blogger.com/img /158/2329/640/sticky7.jpg ...Looks like he wants to suck something other than your blood." HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA....I can't stop laughing...I know it's stupid but I can't help it.
Wait...I have an idea! by Junior Frenger	Nov 7th, 2005 06:26:02 PM
D.J. Qualls as Blade. Seriously I'd watch it. They really need to go in another direction anyway.
Rap sucks by GiftedInThePants	Nov 7th, 2005 06:31:51 PM
You all suck :D Rap. Fad. Deal with it. The only reason you people defend it is because for some stupid reason hating rap "makes" someone racist. So stupid. Fuck rap. It won't be popular forever. Remember, Techno had it's day and rock had decades. Rap will die and a new fad will take over. Rap> rock. Look at everyone getting so defensive because they like shitty rap :D OWNT FUCKING OWNT
I meant Rock> rap by GiftedInThePants	Nov 7th, 2005 06:32:52 PM
rap sucks. Rock has owned for decades. OWNT
Hey, anyone remember Blade in the Spider-Man cartoon (1990's by ComputerGuy68	Nov 7th, 2005 06:40:09 PM
"Blade the Vampire Hunter" (Neogenic Nightmare Part IX)I thought that they were going to do a spin off show with him and Morbius but nothing ever came out of it.
How about the guy who played Principal Wood in Buffy? by ComputerGuy68	Nov 7th, 2005 06:44:30 PM
D.B. Woodside is not a bad actor...
I liked him in the shield by George Newman	Nov 7th, 2005 06:45:53 PM

Why not cast Morgan Freeman, isn't he the only Black actor a by CrispyOne	Nov 7th, 2005 07:21:47 PM

Good luck to them by proper	Nov 7th, 2005 07:29:29 PM
Blade on TV,I'll give it a chance.Who remembers that Onyx video set in the future with Guest star Method Man driving a car with a bloody stumpy arm squirting bood through the whole video,that was great(the song was lame though as I recall).In fact bring him in as a end of season boss.http://tinyurl.com/7qcza
"Fingaz is bald. Making Blade bald is as wrong as making Shaft b by white owl	Nov 7th, 2005 08:36:56 PM
AHAHA AHAHA HAHA HAHAHA AHHAHA!!! I'm cold.
What about Carl Weathers? by jocutus	Nov 7th, 2005 09:01:21 PM
He's a well known action star, too. And if what I saw on Arrested Development is at all true, he could really use a gig about now.
Is this the post-Trinity Blade? by Truth0ne	Nov 7th, 2005 09:28:17 PM
...or are they just gonna ignore that mess and pick up where "Blade II" left off? Sticky very well may pull this off if they're playing at a younger Blade... less disciplined... fighting the thirst. We'll see.
morons by wixmmm	Nov 7th, 2005 09:57:16 PM
i often am tempted to post here but i'm too lazy to look up my impossible to remember password. but i just needed to say something here. there are maybe two people in this talkback that know what they are talking about. Why? because black people aren't little insecure white suburbanites that need to go online to prove shit. if i showed this thread to my roomates freshman year they woudl laugh their asses off and your pathetic attempt at explaining rap culture...everything you need to know about rap or an individual rap artist can be found in the lyrics of the songs... PERIOD. you can't make sweeping generalizations at all, and in doing so you just prove your ignorance...........also, by talking shit on the actor cast to play blade you make a complete ass of yourself. Smoke was easily one of the most intriguing characters on Over There. If you say he doesn't deserve the role you obviously didn't watch the show, period. He tackled very complex issues such as racism, the media and the purpose of the war with impressive believability. Never was he preachy, but never was he too ghetto to be taken seriously... he was a guy...........THIS is why rap artists often become actors.... because its true that black actors just aren't given the same amount of shots, but rap is one part of the entertainment industry that is not dominated by white people. so don't go bitching when the only people that are given a shot are rap artists... at least these musicians have something arguably real to talk about (at least realer than suburban kids whining about the same fucking girl that stomped on their hearts, with distortion.)...............bas ically, the fact that this guy was cast actually makes me excited for this show.... he did great in over there..... so did angel.... (ps: i am blown away by abc--they should be ashamed of their SHAMELESS way of handling the black family in the neighborhood--the season finale ends hinting at a real controversial sub-plot dealing with real issues, what do we get--crazy ass black criminals....unbeleivable.)
wtmxx by GiftedInThePants	Nov 7th, 2005 10:09:12 PM
Dumb darkie :D Damn you took that bait. I don't have to respect rap :D OWNT. I don't like it. Deal with it. BTW there is more racism in your post with your "stupid whites" comments than in any post in this TB. Fucking moron.
Sticky was very verrrry good on "Over There." by Lenny Nero	Nov 7th, 2005 10:17:34 PM
And mildly good in "Flight of the Phoenix."
Seriously, Gifted in the Pants by Bryan	Nov 7th, 2005 10:41:39 PM
Just tell me what year you were born. I'm guessing you were born after Straight Outta Compton. Possibly Doggystyle. Definitely Raising Hell. Which would make your "rap is a fad" argument even funnier. On the other hand, it would be funny if you were over 13 and writing posts that retarded. So let me know which one it is so I know which one I am laughing at.
Rap has been around since the end of the 19th century. by Lenny Nero	Nov 7th, 2005 10:46:34 PM
A fad? Do your research. Ever heard of jazz subgenres?
Anyone care to discuss tonight's "Arrested Development" by DanielKurland	Nov 7th, 2005 11:21:19 PM
Sorry to hijack this talkback, but this show really needs to have one. Tobias as a giant mole attacking a miniature city with George Michael on a jetpack has to be one of the most ridiculous things I've seen. A little disappointed that they seem to have virtually an entirely new writing staff though...
Haven't gotten to the episode yet, Daniel. I'll come bac by Lenny Nero	Nov 7th, 2005 11:35:20 PM

busta is a joke by W3bzpinn3r	Nov 7th, 2005 11:44:03 PM
Saw him live at a concert festival once, in san jose... he was totally stoned and/or drunk. kept falling on his arse and slurring. people were booing him and he was too out-there to notice... Anyway... Instead of Blade, there are more deserving supers out there who should get a tv show... Batman (a drama, sorta Law and Order SVU)... Deadpool (storyline could be he's doing his hits, and there are a set of cops trying to bring him down)... Hell, "Aquaman: The Musical" would be more entertaining...
LMAO bryan by GiftedInThePants	Nov 8th, 2005 12:08:57 AM
Keep taking the bait :D No go ahead really. Faggot. Rap sucks. Deal with it. It'll never be respected because it fucking blows. OWNT
Yeah, Gifted, and calling others "faggot" is such a forward-thin by Lenny Nero	Nov 8th, 2005 12:14:13 AM
Is that a trend?
just thought I'd add my two cents by LeckoManiac	Nov 8th, 2005 01:09:45 AM
I am indifferent to rap...I hardly ever listen to the radio or watch MTV so I never really get a chance to listen to it...but I have a problem with people calling rapper musicians...I mean I play guitar in a band...and when I think of musicians I think of someone who plays an instrument...vocalists also apply because for the most part they are singing in a certain key...rappers, in my opinion, do not sing, let alone in any key, not to say that they are not talented...they are...I usually use the term rap artist...I personally believe it is more applicable...I am sure others disagree with my assessment, but I figured I would offer it out there...keep in mind that that the rappers don't generally create their own "beats", that is done by the producer...they simply rhyme over it.
Sticky was solid on Over There, nothing more, nothing less... by LeiaDown&FuckHer	Nov 8th, 2005 01:46:31 AM
He did an okay job, like I said, solid, but he didn't have much of a screen presence, nor did he in any way stand out compared to some of the other actors on the show. Plus he had the advantage of being well cast to boot as fitting into said role. Truth is though he just doesn't have much in the way of charisma, nor did he show very much in the way of acting range whatsoever. Given all that I think he's a bad choice. He can do an okay job cast in the right role, but as a lead in a role that'll clearly demand a greater range of him, I think he's way out of his depth, at least given what I've seen. Personally I think they should have cast Eamonn Walker from Oz and the recent Lord Of War. He would have been perfect. He has the look, the charisma, and he can actually act. There are others that could pull it off, but Eamonn Walker definitely would have been my first choice.
Lenny by GiftedInThePants	Nov 8th, 2005 01:58:05 AM
eat cock faggot :D:D:D Such sensitivity :D
blade 3 hurtz to watch by rabban	Nov 8th, 2005 04:36:45 AM
i mean it howard the duck and ishtar have nothing on blade 3 as the worst movie ever.
Maybe i'm wrong by liljuniorbrown	Nov 8th, 2005 07:01:47 AM
But i don't buy him as Blade. Blade doesn't hardly speak ,just gets the job done all serious like,thats part of what makes him who he is. Read anything with Blade in it and he's always got someone around doing all of the talking,asking him "why not loosen up some time" But Blade's all business. I bet there are a million black actors out there with the build and look not to mention acting skills to play Blade. To me this guy just really ,really does not look like Blade. They should have cast Isaiah Washington like a couple of other people posted,shit i bet Snipes would have done a cable tv series in a heart beat.
Nice Trolling Gifted by McBane	Nov 8th, 2005 07:27:53 AM
So you say rap sucks. Fair enough. And it's a fad. Possibly. But the fact you take the time to say rap sucks at every possible opportunity, is kinda sad. In fact, that's pretty much all you say. So what type of rock do you like?
Forget Michael Jai White by LoneChicken	Nov 8th, 2005 07:41:05 AM
How about Jaleel White? That would have been a ballsy selection!
Does he really have to call himself Sticky Fingaz as an actor? by Citizen Arcane	Nov 8th, 2005 08:06:15 AM
What is this, kindergarten?
Get Wesley Snipes by BigTuna	Nov 8th, 2005 10:15:13 AM
It's not like he's too big of a star for a tv series now. His movies are all direct to video.
Arrested Development by Xenite_one	Nov 8th, 2005 11:32:22 AM
Dude! I'm totally not the only one still dying from laughing at MR. F!!! It's so good to know you're not alone in the world. Anyway, I don't know who this Sticy Fingaz character is, but he's bound to not be able to act. Though "Luda" did a pretty decent job in Crash. I dunno, musicians turned actors usually have a way of not working out. Oh, and also, Michael Jai White would be totally awesome. I guess we'll just have to see what this Sticky guy brings to the table.
Blade TV by Wil_Of_Iron	Nov 8th, 2005 12:11:12 PM
Dudes..there is no doubt whatsoever that Michael Jai White would've been the perfect choice for this new incarnation of Blade. Hell, I think Michael Jai White would be perfect as the Black Panther....Sticky does have a menacing voice, so it will be interesting to see what he brings to the table, Now on the question of Wesley.....would he reduce himself to returning to the small screen? Well let me tell you....he should.....b/c these last string of straight to video movies have sucked proverbial schlong!!!! And to add the final nail into his already dead career...get this.....he has a movie (again, straight to video) with none other than Jean Claude Van Damme!! ARGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!! ps- that picture of sticky looks a hella-gay!
Rappin' on by oisin5199	Nov 8th, 2005 12:46:02 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't hip-hop a more accurate term than rap? Rap is something you do, not necessarily a genre of music (at least not anymore). Leaving aside arguments about which is more musical, calling someone a rapper is like calling someone a singer. As in 'I don't much care for -singing- music'. If rapping is the act of speaking words to a rhythm, mainstream rock bands and white boy bands 'rap' too. That's what shows it's not a 'fad' - it's been absorbed into the mainstream. Even though I'm not a hip-hop fan, I can certainly appreciate the artistry possible (especially if it's good poetry, rhythmic and socially relevant). It's just a different talent than singing. And kudos to the poster that noted that hip hop artists are already actors. Good point. But I'd argue that, rather, they are performers rather than actors. The performance aspect in that they take on a persona, but that may or may not translate to the more specific skills of acting. (in other words acting is a subgroup of performing). Haven't seen Over There and I'm unfamiliar with this guy, so none of this is a statement about him. Just hope the show does something interesting. On another note, vaguely related to vampires, has anyone heard that Dresden Files show for Sci-Fi has cast its lead, and it's not James Marsters, but the guy who played the British villain on 24 (season 3)?
Why do people keep saying Isaiah Washington? by Vern	Nov 8th, 2005 02:10:25 PM
He's a great actor but I can't figure out why he would even occur to somebody as Blade. He also doesn't "look like Blade," he doesn't have a super hero build, and I can't remember him ever doing an action scene even while playing a cop and co-starring with Steven Seagal and Jet Li. I mean maybe you got something different in mind, and didn't they originally think of casting Denzel in the movie? But I'm surprised his name keeps coming up because he would be such a weird choice. Wouldn't he look goofy doing martial arts? Still, anything to help Isaiah, 'cause it was sad seeing the poor bastard in Wild Things 2.
Yes, Gifted, I'm senstive about bigotry. by Lenny Nero	Nov 8th, 2005 02:21:08 PM
Good job on the comments. I don't have to say anymore now. I think your last comment speaks for itself.
Fuck Off by Doc_Strange	Nov 8th, 2005 03:01:15 PM
Yeah bitch, I'm talking to you.
What's up with the M-bius names in media these days? by Doc_Strange	Nov 8th, 2005 03:06:54 PM
Morbius, Morpheus, Moebius, etc. Do those names automatically make you cool or what? Kind of stupid now, really.
Is SerenityFan joking? by Childe Roland	Nov 8th, 2005 03:30:01 PM
Or do Whedon's zombies have some way of searching every post for the words Buffy, Angel, Firefly, Serenity and Browncoat so they can just pop in, act stupid without reading what was actually posted and then fade away? Here's a hint, jackass...there was a movie BEFORE there was a series, which is why the name came up in this talkback in the first place. Well, that and the obvious plot similarities. Either way, the Buffy movie was ass. Joss' big screen record sucks and you need a healthier hobby.
Buffy tv show? God, yes. Movie? Not so much. by oisin5199	Nov 8th, 2005 03:31:09 PM
SerenityFan, this could be why people get angry at Joss fans - you jumped on something without reading it closely. You left out the crucial part of that quote - the two words: the movie. Which I agree - was a terrible flop that most of the actors would rather forget. Remember that Hillary Swank and Ben Affleck had walk on roles. Don't think they list it on their resumes. The tv show is a whole other story - that pretty much made everyone's careers. Well, except for Alyson Hannigan, who had a pretty strong thing with the American Pie movies.
Roland, you posted while I was typing. by oisin5199	Nov 8th, 2005 03:34:32 PM
Don't forget, Joss only wrote the movie, didn't direct it. And they made crucial changes against his will. Let's be clear, up until Serenity, Joss didn't have a big-screen record, at least not directing-wise. He was either a script-doctor or had his scripts mangled by directors (besides Buffy, the oft-mocked (even by Joss)Alien Resurrection).
Gifted, if u think rap sucks, then thats fine. by SirBiatchReturns	Nov 8th, 2005 05:50:19 PM
I try to be open to all types of music as long as it sounds good. I'm very much into hip hop, soul, soundtrack tunes. I don't really feel rock music all that much, but still i'd be stupid to say that 'rock sucks', simply because there are a lot of good rock songs. Every now and then, i'll hear something in that genre that will really impress me. examples: Garden State soundtrack, Rage Against the Machine, Green Day, "Rock Is Dead" and "Fight Song" by Marilyn Manson (i can't stand the rest of the stuff i've heard from him). So if you want to cut off an entire genre, then go ahead. Its funny, but the only person getting pwned at the end of the day is you.
Evil White Man... by tango fett	Nov 8th, 2005 07:54:21 PM
I can't wait for technopolka to hit the charts like you wouldn't believe. I thought it would be hardcore jazz but hey, I like your idea better.
And not ALL rap sucks... by tango fett	Nov 8th, 2005 08:11:02 PM
Just most of the stuff on the Top 40. Good rap: old Snoop, NWA, Run DMC, Public Enemy, Beastie Boys, Eminem, Kanye West (even if he is one of the biggest arrogant pricks in existance), and some Jay-Z (and there's probably more, but yeah). Bad Rap: 50 cent, Mike Jones, Bow Wow, any of that shit.
Oh, and the Streets are good... by tango fett	Nov 8th, 2005 08:12:40 PM
Even if they're more electronica than hip-hop.
So...buffy is the greatest TV show ever? by Andsoitis	Nov 9th, 2005 05:11:37 AM
wow...that is some serious conviction. But on another note, Why does everyone shit on goyer so much? Yeah Blade trinity wasn't great, or even good for that matter. But some of you folks act like he's the bane in your existence. I've even seen some people say they love Batman Begins but they hate all of the "david goyer" stuff in it. Whatever that means. I dunno if this TV show is going to be any good. But if it weren't for Goyer, there would be no Blade franchise in the first place. I read Blade when he was in the Tomb of Dracula comics. He had a green goggles, and afro, and a red jacket with a bandolier of stakes. I would have never thought that character would have gotten his own film, let alone a franchise. For all of his directing faults, Goyer must be doing something right.
Just what happened to ol'Wesley... by dr_buggerlugs	Nov 9th, 2005 07:32:16 AM
...he could act, he had talent to spare, plenty of charisma and a damn good screen presence - I wonder if his constant insistence on doing action films like Drop Zone, Art Of War and yes, even Blade when he should have been trying to give Denzel a run for his money has probably hurt him more than he thought - though apparently another reason was that he was a total wanker on set. Either way, it's a shame to see what he's been reduced to.
Hey Gifted... by SouthSide_2010	Nov 9th, 2005 08:06:39 AM
FUCK YOU!! Eat a fat one you bitch ass hater.
Just so we can be clear... by Childe Roland	Nov 9th, 2005 12:35:28 PM
...are you saying that there were no problems with the Buffy script, oisin? And I've heard Joss' "the studio ruined it" explanation for Alien: Ressurection, but he claims they really only monkeyed with his third act. Aside from the brief bits of character demonstrated by the pirates (all of which were pretty much cryogenically preserved and warmed over to make the crew of the Serenity), that entire movie sucked from frame one. One doesn't need to be a director to establish a big screen record, and Joss - whose been doctoring scripts for quite some time - has established a rather spotty one at best. All of that said, I thoroughly enjoyed most of the man's TV work. I just get annoyed with folks who claim he can do no wrong and rabidly attack anyone who suggests otherwise.
Dr.bugger... by DanielKurland	Nov 9th, 2005 03:05:53 PM
I agreed with everything you said about Wesley, until I realized you were talking about Wesley Snipes and not Alexis Denisof. Now I couldn't disagree more.
:D ALl of you are owned. by GiftedInThePants	Nov 9th, 2005 04:36:18 PM
My flamebait has owned all of you. None of you are very smart. Oh yeah, rap sucks. OWNED :D
Well Daniel... by dr_buggerlugs	Nov 9th, 2005 05:01:11 PM
...agree or disagree, I'll be frank, whatever the state of Mr Snipes' career, I sure as hell cannee wait for The Head Corps = in the words, of other, it will indeed, own your ass and many more asses...even more than Mr Sulu.
Sticky Fingaz is wack by Neo Zeed	Nov 9th, 2005 10:11:06 PM
This fool is supposed to be Blade?! I can't take this guy seriously as a silent but deadly badass? Isn't this the guy who can't shut up in any movie he's in? Plus he looks like dude who's always giggling in the back, as his bully friend kicks the shit out some high school freshman. This will be another Mortal Combat: The Series. Lame!!!
"Just what happened to ol'Wesley...?" by Elcabio	Nov 10th, 2005 03:39:12 PM
I think he may have "assholed" himself out of Hollywood. Too bad too as Blade and Blade 2 are some of my most favorite movies. Actually, I've been wishing for a Blade TV series, but on a station that doesn't have to hold back the good stuff(ie HBO).

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