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KING KONG Trailer Available Now!!

Direct download: http://movies.apple.com/movies/u niversal/king_k by Alexandra.DuPont	Nov 3rd, 2005 08:11:35 PM
http://movies.apple.com/movies /universal/king_kong/king_kong -tlr_h480.mov **** You're welcome.
Fook. Yeah. by MasterWhedon	Nov 3rd, 2005 08:12:21 PM
Did I beat Ribbons? LOLZORS!!
Aww, man!! I got beat by a GIRL!! by MasterWhedon	Nov 3rd, 2005 08:13:10 PM
Double LOLZORS!! At least I'll be FIRST! in a couple of weeks...
Now this looks good! by bmsatter	Nov 3rd, 2005 08:17:52 PM
I've been lukewarm to the previous trailers and teasers but this is it! Can't wait to see it.
I never thought I would say this about a giant ape and dinosaur by Terry_1978	Nov 3rd, 2005 08:22:21 PM
And I ain't even lying.
K O N G !!! by JustinSane	Nov 3rd, 2005 08:25:30 PM
Can't wait.
holy shit by Arachnyd	Nov 3rd, 2005 08:25:46 PM
Kong looks fucking fantastic. Thousand times better then the first trailer or even that "Inside look" thing that came out yesterday. The closeups of his face are great. Looks like Weta pulled it off again.
I hate every APE I see... From-- HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!!! by Gilkuliehe	Nov 3rd, 2005 08:28:19 PM
OH MY GOD, I WAS WRONG! IT WAS KONG ALL ALONG! SO YOU FINALLY MADE A MONKEY OUT OF MEEEE!!!!!! (I love you doctor Jackson!!!)
That mad me go APESHIT by vinceklortho	Nov 3rd, 2005 08:30:37 PM
Just caught the new apple version after that shitty one earlier. I was skeptical after the teaser, but this looks fucking EPIC. I haven't seen a trailer that good in a while. three hours? My geek sense says, "FUCK yes!" Let the nerd juices flow within you...do not feel the hate. You cannot withstand KONG!
.....uh.....I just shit myself..... by PTF-B	Nov 3rd, 2005 08:32:38 PM
I must admit, the teaser didn't quite do it for me when I first saw it. But this... This three-hour film is going to shrink my testicles when I see it. My favorite thing about LOTR was how much lovely, human EMOTION Jackson fit into the epic. This shows me that he will once again capture the FEELINGS of the piece as well as he captures the effects shots. Wow. I can't f-ing wait.
Cheers Moriarty by pfizzle	Nov 3rd, 2005 08:34:47 PM
You said it perfectly. Irregardless if you think they go apeshit for Jackson for personal reasons, the power of that trailer cannot be denied.
DAMN YOU, APPLE!!! I'M STILL RUNNING WINDOWS '98 YOU BA by 3 Bag Enema	Nov 3rd, 2005 08:35:59 PM
I know there is no sympathy for me. But I've never seen this much positive buzz from a trailer before. And I... can't... SEEE EEEET!! I can't install Quicktime 7!!! Well somebody PLEASE post this somewhere as an avi or something? IT HURTS!
so....Kong is from Mordor? WTF? by HypeEndsHere	Nov 3rd, 2005 08:38:33 PM
Hype ends........here.
HaHa...Windows 98!!! by jrbarker	Nov 3rd, 2005 08:47:21 PM
Sorry 3 Bag! The trailer rocks though.
The parts with the natives did remind me of the Orcs from LOTR.. by jrbarker	Nov 3rd, 2005 08:48:23 PM
Maybe it was just the similar lighting or something.
Quicktime 7 by Mr Nice Gaius	Nov 3rd, 2005 08:52:42 PM
Does anybody know what I'm doing wrong when I chose to watch the Medium version and the screen stays blank-white? Or, when I chose to the full screen version I receive the following message: "Couldn't open the file because a bad movie atom was found in the movie". WTF???
Kong or Potter? by SpikeZoft	Nov 3rd, 2005 08:54:53 PM
Which one'll take the winter crown? Since I'm pretty sure neither'll beat Sith for the year's top movie. But they should both make a nice chunk of money.
Potter has the fan base, but Kong could surprise by Bean_	Nov 3rd, 2005 08:57:07 PM
Either way, both are going to make great end of the year films, I can't wait.
Eh.... by Tarc	Nov 3rd, 2005 08:58:00 PM
I wasn't very interested before, and now I'm less interested. I thought the original sucked, so essentially the same movie with better effects CGI just isn't good enough to draw me in - nor capture my $9.
Did you just call my heart chinky? by seppukudkurosawa	Nov 3rd, 2005 09:01:26 PM
Oh the word was grinchy...do continue doing whatever it was you were doing before this rude interruption.
You know damn well you'll pay to see it, Tarc... by Jon_Snow	Nov 3rd, 2005 09:02:16 PM

MORIARTY by Amazing Inframan	Nov 3rd, 2005 09:06:10 PM
It's not the "cheerleading" that's the problem, it's their deciding in advance that a film will "rock", that it's a "Geekasm", etc. -- then not being able to view the film objectively when the chips are down. Happens ALL the time in these here parts. It's fine to be excited about (and supportive of) a film -- it's even fun. HOWEVER, it's NOT okay to dangle reviews for consideration when the sophistication or maturity of the critics prevents them from assessing the film they were excited about with a truthful, level head. There's not a CHANCE IN HELL any of the primary reviewers on this site will give KONG a bad review -- Peter Jackson could parade around naked and pee on children, and the film would be considered the second coming. THAT's the problem. Minds have been made up before the film has been viewed (by many fans, as well). Happens all the time, and it's what gives fans a bad name.
Too many damn entertainment shows by Gheorghe Zamfir	Nov 3rd, 2005 09:08:49 PM
Waited all day for Access Hollywood to come on only to figure out that when it did I had it confused with Entertainment Tonight, crap! No idea when Access Hollywood is on or what station, oh well, guess I'll try to watch it on here, though Quicktime has been pretty shitty for me ever since I installed the "upgrade" a few months back.
KONG WILL OWN, BITCHES by IAmLegolas	Nov 3rd, 2005 09:10:37 PM
FCK ALL YOU HATERS, YES, EVEN YOU FCKWAD! YEAH!!!
Thank God Peter HACKson has stopped making those stupid Dungeons by MRupprecht	Nov 3rd, 2005 09:10:48 PM
Thank God Peter HACKson has stopped making those stupid Dungeons and Dragons movies and has moved onto something original like he did with Meet The Feebles. I mean, King Kong ...there's a movie that hasn't been remade before. Well, I forgot about the excellent DeLaurentis production. Well at least we get to see a giant ape with cutting edge CGI for the first time. Oh...I forgot about the MJY remake of 1998. Why do we need this movie? Oh yeah...so Hollywod can masturbate on themselves once again to see how much moeny they can spend on tired ideas. Memoirs of a Geisha will bury Kong as a piece of art, but this will make a TON of money. CRAP!
So it looks like the FX haven't improved much from the tease by Atticus Finch	Nov 3rd, 2005 09:12:10 PM
Those dinos are still looking fake as all hell. Watts is nice eye candy, but from the teaser and this it looks like Jack Black and Brody are just all wrong. The end with the bi-planes kind of looked like "Kong -- The Video Game"! I'm sure all the PJ apologists will jump all over me, but this just doesn't seem all that special. At least there is Potter and Narnia to look forward to. And is King Kong related to Donkey Kong...like a great uncle or something?
"Peter Jackson could parade around naked and pee on children" by seppukudkurosawa	Nov 3rd, 2005 09:15:46 PM
I see Inframan's just as big a fan of what Jackson likes to call his Business Card, the incredibly low budget movie he shot with his friend Bill that he showed to investors to help get him the budget for Bad Taste. When not referring to this movie as his business card he also called it Yellow Rain. It's amazing that the Queensland Christian Choir-Boy Association lent him all those children for the shoot, I mean he was a complete unknown at the time... Well, I'm just glad I'm not the only person in the world (other than Peter Jackson and Bill) who's seen Yellow Rain.
Safe.... by DocArzt	Nov 3rd, 2005 09:15:53 PM
So Peter Jackson goes from adapting the Lord of the Rings trilogy to Kong. The question is, what happens when he isn't adapting epics with built in audiences? Frighteners? His best movie was Dead Alive. The man plays it safe. Give Uwe Boll $200mil and the rights to king kong and I'm sure you'd see his fortunes turn around too.
DAAAAAMMMMN. by jimmy_009	Nov 3rd, 2005 09:20:36 PM
That was awesome. That supremely trumped that lame teaser. I can't wait. The FX are MUCH improved from the teaser IMO.
Here come the trolls... by Jon_Snow	Nov 3rd, 2005 09:21:29 PM
Anybody spewing hate after watching that trailer are trolls. Plain and simple. You are not lovers of cinema.
I'm so there by Se	Nov 3rd, 2005 09:21:42 PM
What an amazing looking trailer.
PORKYSANDWICH by Amazing Inframan	Nov 3rd, 2005 09:24:09 PM
Thank you very much. You just proved my point
"Give Uwe Boll $200mil and the rights to king kong and I'm s by jimmy_009	Nov 3rd, 2005 09:24:50 PM
Hilarious. You had me laughing out loud with that one. Ask Michael Bay about what high budget without talent get's you...
So.....does Jack Black get stepped on in this like he did in PJ& by KongMonkey	Nov 3rd, 2005 09:27:15 PM
cause that might appease some of the bitches who despised seeing him cast. The trailer kicked ass. Movie will kick ass. Period.
JON_SNOW by Amazing Inframan	Nov 3rd, 2005 09:29:31 PM
You're EXACTLY the kind of person I'm talking about! Well done! You've decided you're going to like KONG, and now you run down anyone who challenges your need to embrace it. A TRUE lover of cinema accepts a broader range of ideas than their own. Which means, YOU must not love cinema either?
Personally I am not that excited for this, but can't we all by modlight	Nov 3rd, 2005 09:32:50 PM
I think he's a funny funny guy and has been great in many movies, but reteaming the Orange County cast? Really? And that first little monolouge sounds like an intro for a Tenacious D metal tribute.
good by invalid entry	Nov 3rd, 2005 09:41:16 PM
I couldn't care less about Kong, but this trailer has my attention. Truly impressive and very epic.
oh, and a uwe boll Kong flick will most likely feature... by KongMonkey	Nov 3rd, 2005 09:42:18 PM
Bad actors/acting(duh). Bad FX. Cheezy techno-fag music as the background score. "Karate Kong" using log numbchucks to beat up T-rexes. Matrix rip-off slo-mo shots of kong drop-kicking a byplane out of the sky. Nazi's or germans incorporated somewhere in some form as "good guys." And Uwe will set aside his taste for fiction and go for a slight sense of realism,...AND WILL MAKE KONGS BALLS VISIBLE....hollow man style. Somebody out there, anybody with ties to the mobs or hitmen of the world. Put a price on that nazi bastards head and make it a high one. While your at it do the same with Paul W.anker S.hit Anderson. Again, Kong will rule. Cause he's actually in good hands. I can imagine a George Lucas version of King Kong, but the pains of the Star Wars prequels still hurt me so. Spielberg might have done a decent job, but I wanna see the Kong vs. T-rex scene over that hill.
about to see it on my fat TV by reckni	Nov 3rd, 2005 09:46:27 PM
A few beers and very excited . . had to wait until I could see the trailer nice and big. These Access Hollywood bitches probably won't show it until right before 8PM eh.
WOW by reckni	Nov 3rd, 2005 09:52:42 PM
OK, that looks great.
WOW WOW WOW WOW by El Scorcho	Nov 3rd, 2005 09:59:56 PM
I was skeptical after the first trailer, but I literally yelled "Oh My God!" during this. Kong looks amazingly real, now only if they could do the same with the dinos... But, special effects just keep getting closer to being real. That is exciting and scary. I can't wait for December.
250 million at the US Box Office Tops by AlwaysThere	Nov 3rd, 2005 10:00:37 PM
Book it.
What's with all the hype? by greatczersghost	Nov 3rd, 2005 10:03:07 PM
I don't see a whole lot of improvement over the teaser. It still all looks very CGI and not particularly . . . well, anything. Yeah, yeah, I'm sure I'll go see it. I'm as much a sucker for a big budget movie as the next guy, but to say those who don't love this movie don't love cinema? That's ridiculous. I'm pretty sure love of dinosaurs and a giant monkey has little to nothing to do with a love of cinema. The whole thing just looks pretentious and silly, much like this site as a whole. Why do I waste my time here again? It's getting harder and harder to justify.
RE: What's with all the hype? by Mr Nice Gaius	Nov 3rd, 2005 10:10:30 PM
Then, by all means Greatczersghost, go away. Don't waste your time here anymore. I mean, what the fuck is the point, right smart guy? Now, can somebody reply to my previous post regarding Quicktime 7? Thanks.
Windows 98 version by Omegaman	Nov 3rd, 2005 10:10:36 PM
Its a low res version (quicktime 6 or 7):....... http://s53.yousendit.com/d.asp x?id=2G09Q7YME793Q0B44WI40T7FE X
fake - a - rama by Mr Staypuft	Nov 3rd, 2005 10:12:39 PM
I know I'll enjoy this film regardless - however it looks like a massive computer game - Kong looks more fake than the teaser - sure the design of Kong is now better - however he looks and moves (mainly in front of the T-Rex) like a video game creature. Kind of expected more with CGI where it is today - look at the Narnia trailer - so much better CGI - and done by same company!
What a convincing argument Gaius by greatczersghost	Nov 3rd, 2005 10:12:41 PM
You're a gentleman and a scholar.
AlwaysThere... so a massive hit then? by Captain Katanga	Nov 3rd, 2005 10:14:03 PM
its a terrific trailer. But it does look a little fake. Maybe its the ultra colourful look... cool and fake at the same time. weird.
Captain Katanga has a point by Mr Staypuft	Nov 3rd, 2005 10:16:49 PM
Captain Katanga has a point - maybe it's going for a cetain stylized look - like a children's book illustration.
Thanks ghost by Mr Nice Gaius	Nov 3rd, 2005 10:25:58 PM
I've worked very hard to become so.
broken trailer? by apfrance	Nov 3rd, 2005 10:36:36 PM
I'm having same problem as Gaius...I keep getting this "bad movie atom" message that won't let me load the trailer. Anyone else getting this?
mother of God! by mikkimouse	Nov 3rd, 2005 10:39:36 PM
i saw the trailer at a screening for "jarhead" tonight...at a college campus...people were cheering so loud we almost missed the beginning of the movie. this trailer is awesome, and i can't wait for the movie. here's hoping that it lives up to expectations.
Jack Black by drjohnnyfever	Nov 3rd, 2005 10:41:10 PM
I suppose it's anyone's right to say that Jack Black is a poor choice for this role even before seeing it, even just by watching the trailers. I'm willing to give him a chance though. We've never seen him in a serious role before (as far as I can tell) and I'm anxious to see how he does. Peter Jackson gives me the impression he sort of seems to know what he's doing so.... you know... let's just wait and see.
Magilla Gorilla or King Kong? by sevadro	Nov 3rd, 2005 10:41:26 PM
Is it me or did the CG in the "V"-rex vs. Kong scene look like shit or what? Fuck that, the whole thing looked kinda shitty to me. Jack Black sounds like he's still on Mr. Show. His accent is corny as hell. I think he thinks he's still narrarating that Wonderboy video again. I'm definitely not hating on PJ, but damn! I could see the chroma-aura all around Naomi Watts. And she's no beauty in my eyes. More like Australian trailer trash if you ask me. I hope that was just some preliminary shit.
Anyone else having trouble with Quicktime 7? I keep getting the by Kraken	Nov 3rd, 2005 10:48:33 PM
Everytime I try to open the HD version, or the Full Screen non-HD version, my computer wants to send an error report, and then shuts down quicktime. I'd think it was because of something wrong on my desktop. But I re-installed Quicktime on my desktop AND my laptop and it gave me the same error on both machines. And only when I try to open HD versions, or the FULL screen versions. (med ver opens ok, but sometimes even that turns all green in the middle of the trailer). Wtf is wrong?
trolls are funny by slappy jones	Nov 3rd, 2005 10:48:47 PM
because they will all dissappear around opening weekend...why? because they too will all be seeing this film and they fucking know it
How anyone can anticipate Narnia or Potter over Kong is beyond m by Riff Randall	Nov 3rd, 2005 10:49:53 PM
Oooookaaaaaay.....
sevadro... by dimnix	Nov 3rd, 2005 10:53:39 PM
Calling Naomi Watts trailer trash? Charming.
i just watched it again and... by slappy jones	Nov 3rd, 2005 10:58:52 PM
get fucked haters..it looks awesome...you are crazy...i actually feel sorry for people who are not excited about this because those of us who are have a three hour fucking feast of a film to enjoy come xmas..but enjoy memoirs of a geisha nonetheless...i will be seeing that too but this film looks incredible....i feel sory for you. and for people saying it looks fake well thats because effects are fake. its called suspension of disbelief..it is called having an imagination fuckers..and the effects look fucking awesome anyway so i don;t know what you are talking about...check out his fur...look at that fucking t rex or v rex or whatever the fuck...it is fucking unreal...december 14th cannot come quickly enough
Cool! by moviemaniac-7	Nov 3rd, 2005 11:01:26 PM
Just too bad that they didn't use the best part of the teaser, where Ann screams... and Kongs screams back, ending with Denham saying: Take your camera (or something like that).
Someone save that blonde haired lady from those negreos! by Winterchili	Nov 3rd, 2005 11:03:37 PM
I don't jump on people for being racist, but it did come to mind that anyone who isn't white is evil in this guys movies.
negroes* by Winterchili	Nov 3rd, 2005 11:04:32 PM
Actually, it just to came to mind that they might actually not be black but have painted skin, I'll have to take another look.
oh and one last thing by slappy jones	Nov 3rd, 2005 11:06:30 PM
IMAGINE THAT UP ON THE BIG SCREEN WITH THE SOUND CRANKED UP. that still doesn't excite you hater fucks? shame....
CGI is painterly by DinoBass	Nov 3rd, 2005 11:12:26 PM
because they haven't finished color-correcting it. In last week's "Inside Look", it looks like they have a couple of finished shots there, like when Kong clocks the rex in the vines. If you compare the exact same frames from the trailer and the inside look (like where Kong and rex settle in the vines), you can see a dramatic difference in color: the trailer looks more cartoony, where the "inside look" has more muted tones and the sky is pretty washed out. The color corrected frames look much better.
Thank you, Omegaman. by 3 Bag Enema	Nov 3rd, 2005 11:14:23 PM
Did you ever know you were my hero?
Though I wish it had been Winslet. by 3 Bag Enema	Nov 3rd, 2005 11:18:03 PM
If you're going to choose an over-the-hill blonde woman pretending to be American, she's my first choice every time. And her loving a giant ape would be far more believable than her loving Leonardo Dicaprio. Or however you spell that.
Gooseys... by LucienPierce	Nov 3rd, 2005 11:23:16 PM
...that's right, not many films this year have given me the gooseys from watching the trailer but this was one of em...I was a bit concerned after the great opening the pace of the trailer slowed with the cannibals etc. but damn...the build up to Kong vs T-Rex was damn awesome and the stuff in the city looks mind blowing. The only problem I could think of, and I hope it doesn't affect the film, is that in the trailer I only wanted to see Kong. I hope the film doesn't stall everytime Kong is off screen but judging from LOTR I'm sure PJ will have a strong handle on character so it should be cool...CANNOT WAIT...DECEMBER (a bit late eh?) is gonna be the turn around in films this year!
so yeah.... how's that working out for you Peter J? by kalibonejack	Nov 3rd, 2005 11:40:47 PM
So, I am watching it on medium screen, since the large screen DL was not working, and I muted the tv, and turned off my desk light... and I'll be dammned... that bit where, when Kong's on top of the Empire State Building, and he swats the bi-plane, I yelled, out loud OH JEEZUS! Yeah, I am not too proud to tell ya'll that. Heck,I know a guy who's flying to NYC to see it there, opening weekend, because, well...that's where you need to see it. That referance in the subjext line? That's from Fight Club, about being clever. I think Peter and crew are quite clever enough, thank you. And I await the viewing(s) I will have of this epic film with baited breath, and a big supply of bananas. PS. I hope to hell this plays at BNAT, since I will there! ~Grendy
This movie looks like it's gonna suck... by Tal111	Nov 3rd, 2005 11:41:32 PM
because if you pause the trailer and look at frame three of the T-Rex fight Kongs teeth look way too yellow and therefore not real at all. What was Peturd Jackson thinking!??!
I play video games all the time... by kintar0	Nov 3rd, 2005 11:47:50 PM
and I've never played a video game that looked as friggin' hi-rez and realistic as the King Kong trailer looks. The dinosaurs don't look real? Say that out loud and realize what an asshat you are. Try playing a video game newer than Goldeneye, grandpa.
Kong's yellow tooth by DinoBass	Nov 3rd, 2005 11:53:05 PM
Is more a muted saffron after color correcting, so don't worry.
To: LoveDoctor by Oozer3993	Nov 3rd, 2005 11:59:17 PM
I'm sure the studio is extremely confident in this movie. Their trailer stategy is exactly the same as every other movie I can remember. The teaser comes out 5-6 months before opening day while the full theatrical trailer is 1-2 months before the curtain drops. There were reports a week or two ago that several studio heads had seen an early cut of Kong and went "ape"-shit over it. They loved it to death. Back on topic... How I love HD! I downloaded the trailer in glorious 720P HD earlier tonight and I must say I'm impressed. It's looks good, really good. I know I'll being seeing it as soon as possible. It's gonna be one heck of a night, between the movie and the Superman Returns teaser trailer. Personally I think Jack Black can pull off that role well which puts me in a minority here (yay, I'm finally part of a minority!). And to all those people saying the CGI looked bad: you downloaded the wrong trailer. Now go close the Curious George window and go open up the King Kong trailer.
kalibonejack by 3 Bag Enema	Nov 3rd, 2005 11:59:39 PM
Y'all shut up now, y'hear?
"The question is, what happens when he isn't adapting epics by drewcaster	Nov 4th, 2005 12:03:41 AM
How about an Academy Award nomination for best screenplay for Heavenly Creatures?
Priorities skewed by TheXeno	Nov 4th, 2005 12:06:27 AM
Am I really reading this many posts up in here whining about the look of the film? The topic of fandom aside, and the fact that this is Talkback, still, I read that same complaint one too many times. When it comes to what makes a great movie, it
The parts with the natives did remind me of the beginning of BRA by godoffireinhell	Nov 4th, 2005 12:17:34 AM
which is a good thing. i just may go see this flick now. and this comes from someone who still hasn't watched RETURN OF THE KING.
Effects Good - Acting WOODEN by LilOgre	Nov 4th, 2005 12:31:54 AM
The effects were better than the teaser. But the acting - especially by Colin Hanks (? - WTF) was sub "iceberg dead ahead!" And the NYC effects looked like Jackson has looked at one too many Barminski paintings. Still like we all went to see TITANIC to see it sink, I'm sure we will all go to KONG to see him climb the esb.
Frame by Frame by docfalken	Nov 4th, 2005 12:35:19 AM
Whoa. The Kong juggling Anne portion is pretty amazing. No stiff CG characters there.
Exactly. It isn't just a 3 hour effects fest, and shouldn by performingmonkey	Nov 4th, 2005 12:37:30 AM
Peter is telling a great story here, and his use of effects is in the same vein as on LOTR, where they enhance rather than tell the story itself. Sure, we see a few CG moneyshots in the trailer, but this is just two minutes of footage out of 180. There's going to be more character material in this movie than the whole of the fucking prequels. And notice how all of the CG shots involving Kong tell us things about his character. The way he looks down at Ann as she steps underneath him away from the Rex. You see understanding in that look. This is a fucking 25ft tall CG character with no lines and WETA is making him more believable than Hayden Christenson (he he). Who gives a fuck if the Brontos falling off the cliff don't look real. Have dinosaurs ever looked really real in a movie? Anyway, the Rex looks great, and Kong looks 10 times better than he did in the teaser. Methinks Peter knew that people were underwhelmed by the teaser and was maybe forced to show us more moneyshots in the trailer as a result. Whatever, you're just fooling yourself if you don't want to see this. Just think of all the coolness we haven't seen yet. One part I'm especially looking forward to is where Kong throws himself over that huge chasm to get to the natives' wall, and then smashes the gate and destroys the village. Kong has so many set pieces like this, the 9 minute Rex fight being the centerpiece. Really, once they reach the island it's setpiece after setpiece. I'm so glad it's 3 hours.
Releasing... by BCfreeB	Nov 4th, 2005 12:47:58 AM
...the production diaries as a separate DVD is just, well, ridiculous. To get a "making of" special edition released BEFORE the movie is just...it's crossing a line. Stick them on the "extended edition" that this movie will no doubt have (and which, Im sure, I will probably buy) but don't take hype to the level of releasing a fanboy must-have DVD before the movie...that's just sad, egocentric, and a little manipulative. That being said, looking forward to the movie. Still, theres nothing that has really just reached out and grabbed me and made me say "I MUST SEE THIS" like LOTR and even most of the Potter films. But I liked Fellowship 10x more than the trailer for it, so here's hoping. www.unseenfilms.com
Couple comments by Kodakio	Nov 4th, 2005 12:59:06 AM
Damn I liked that trailer. First off the effects were stunning. I had a post in a narnia TB about how certain effects are difficult to engage with becuase your brain can't cope. It's called the uncanny valley. I think the way Jackson is handling the blending of live action and CG effects really helps solve the UNcanny Valley problem by not going for realness. I don't know, it's tough to explain. TO me when a frame is heavy CG (Star Wars) I start to pick it apart and when a frame is either photo real (backrounds of Cast Away) or live set/painted set I start to want it to be more one type of effect. That usually becuase the director will emphasize a cetain type of visual effect first and then let the other types fill in blanks. By blending all these elements equally (you can see each frame has CG, painted sets, photoreal sets and real actors and CG character) and by not worrying about it's "realness" I find the expierience fresh and energetic. SO things that normally I would gripe at (like the blandness of the dinosaurs) I find myself not caring as much and taking it in as part of the whole frame's artistic look. As for Jack Black, much like the effects I find his interpretation fun becuase it's a little over the top. It harkens back to old time acting and anyway that character is suppose to be egotisical. He's the director. The only gripe I still have is the Sound design. Both Kong and the dinos roars are kinda puny and his chest thump is pathetic. Why go for subtly, I want loud as Kong. But that's kinda trivial cause it's still rocks. I was only slightly interested in this movie, now I can't wait to see it.
This looks like some wack-ass BULLSHEET by Nate Champion	Nov 4th, 2005 01:04:54 AM
It should be sub-titled "When Naomi Watts went to Mordor, found Mighty Joe Young, and they escaped to The Lost World, part 867" I'll bet anyone here 10 bucks it has at least 4 endings. Go ahead, tell me I'm wrong.
"If you didn't like this preview, you're a troll." by Ribbons	Nov 4th, 2005 01:14:18 AM
Yeesh. Not necessarily. Although I did like the preview.
I'll be honest by barryap	Nov 4th, 2005 01:21:15 AM
I wasn't too excited about this movie until I saw this trailer. FUcking sweet...
Re: Sound design by Andyrooskie	Nov 4th, 2005 01:26:00 AM
Remember in the Fellowship trailer, that moment when Pippin knocks that dwarf skull down the well? And the clanging that followed? Puny. Tinny-sounding, and weak. And yet I remember reports coming from that 20-minute screening at Cannes a YEAR before the trailer was released, about the UNGODLY heartstopping noise that skull made on its way down. I'm still not sure why it was changed for the trailer, but it was. And that's possibly the same case here, too. Who knows?
All I have to say is that if you don't groove to this traile by antonphd	Nov 4th, 2005 01:39:00 AM
What did we do to deserve this holiday season??? That's what I wanna know.
"If you didn't like this preview, you're a troll." by Snookeroo	Nov 4th, 2005 01:39:47 AM
Hey!!! I LIKED the preview, and I'M a troll!! Now hand me a blueberry Poptart.
Puh-leaze by dewijnboer	Nov 4th, 2005 01:58:37 AM
Stop whining, you bitches. If this wasn't a totally cool trailer then what is? Kong may not top Sith at the box office, but that doesn't mean it will not be a far better film in and of itself. Sith was cool because what came before sucked hairy monkey's ass. But compare it to Empire and then see how much it sucks. Just admit it.
irregardless by songfighter	Nov 4th, 2005 02:04:29 AM

MAN IN SUIT!!!!!! by seppukudkurosawa	Nov 4th, 2005 02:12:02 AM

You trolls are fucking stupid. I haven't seen so many idiots by Monkeybrains	Nov 4th, 2005 02:21:39 AM

mmm...good trailer by speed	Nov 4th, 2005 02:24:06 AM
and i'm going to see this, but those effects are looking a bit iffy. maybe seeing it on a big screen instead of a computer screen might make the effects look a lot better. sure it will.
Teaser was far better by Legolars	Nov 4th, 2005 03:04:48 AM
I like the teaser a lot more than this trailer. The teaser had this great build-up to the reveal of Kong. The story (for those who didn't know it already) was better laid out. This trailer was all over the place. A collection of moneyshots. Cool, but it didn't blow me away. I am in no way as hyped about this film than I was after seeing the FOTR trailer.
Suck it, haters... by DocPazuzu	Nov 4th, 2005 04:15:15 AM
...that's right, moviemack, Ringbearer9 and President Evil - Suuuuuuuuuuck it.
You too, GingerTwit... by DocPazuzu	Nov 4th, 2005 04:16:30 AM
... suck it.
PJ did it! Especially the one scene... by Der-Rabe	Nov 4th, 2005 04:36:34 AM
In the scene where the Rex is moving towards Ann and she's walking towards Kong looking for shelter. The look that Kong give's towards Ann before looking the Rex is uber amazing. Thats what got me... And at the end where Ann is yelling "Nooo"...I hear a tear coming :) Can't wait...history in the making.
It's pretty easy to spot the 5th graders on this message boa by Thirteen 13	Nov 4th, 2005 04:48:26 AM
They are the ones always asking where King Kong's balls are at and why aren't they showing them.
"I can't stop hiccupping..." by Thirteen 13	Nov 4th, 2005 04:50:39 AM
It's normally called a drinking problem. The drunks are pretty easy to spot on the AICN message boards. They make it so obvious.
King Dingaling by Drexl	Nov 4th, 2005 04:54:34 AM
I've seen the trailer a gazillion times by now. It's goin' on a loop here. Needless to say: I'm in love. If this one has that Ultimate Monster Movie
i'm surprised they showed so much in the trailer... but that by mansep	Nov 4th, 2005 05:00:55 AM
definately going to see this at the cinema!
Kong by Indiana Clones	Nov 4th, 2005 05:18:29 AM
King Kong is about and for ugly guys who can't get laid. Literally. THIS IS THE SUBTEXT OF THE MOVIE.
meh by seanpb	Nov 4th, 2005 05:21:09 AM
ill see it, without doubt, but not much there really. CGI doesnt have anything on episode 3, (this isnt a window to steer the conversation towards star wars) just compare yoda to kong. remove ur heads from jacksons and WETAs assholes, take a step back and compare. mighty joe young was made 7 years ago and looks atleast on par with kong...that isnt great if u think about it. im not saying the film will be good or bad but fellas, keep it in the pants, it doesnt look like what u all hope itll b like. the potter and narnia trailers were far more impressive than that (once again, trailers dont count for anything really, just an opinion) i mean after seeing those 2 trailers i had the "o shit ill see those first day for sure" with this i actually wanted it to end, it was really disapointing.
Full screen direct link: by DocPazuzu	Nov 4th, 2005 05:25:00 AM
http://movies.apple.com/movies /universal/king_kong/king_kong -tlr_h480p.mov
"it doesnt look like what u all hope itll b like." by DocPazuzu	Nov 4th, 2005 05:27:48 AM
You're right, seanpb. It actually looks BETTER than we could have hoped for.
Where's the music? by Ashen Shugar	Nov 4th, 2005 05:55:45 AM
We know there's this issue with Shore being replaced one months ago. But this trailer lacks some music and vibration. The cgi's in close-ups are f*** great, I hate that chase scene with the diplodocus and Black, the imagery in New York is fantastic, but I found this trailer to have a shit pace. Sure it's not an MTV-style trailer, more mature, but there definitely lacks something to its pace. The scenes with gorillas or T-Rex seem very weak and the acting limited. Brody's got a goofy look, Black is highly credible as a Director. Only Kretschmann seems like total bad-ass.
this movie will stand or fall depending on one thing: by Colonel_Blimp	Nov 4th, 2005 06:08:01 AM
that the relationship between naomi and kong is believable. realistic brontosauruses hasnt got anything to do with it. and from the looks of this trailer, it looks like PJ has nailed that relationship. of course it helps having one of the best actresses of her generation on board. i still cant see the point of stretching this out for three hours though. Half of that was enough for '33 Kong. Get a grip peter! short, tight movies can be fun too!
Ah, the mad, inspired, prophetic, gadfly prose of GoatZinger... by DocPazuzu	Nov 4th, 2005 06:21:24 AM
...at least in his own mind.
It's amazing, but what's with the soundtrack during the by Orionsangels	Nov 4th, 2005 07:10:09 AM
I'M JUST KEEDING!
I'm already choked up, Colonel_Blimp by Orionsangels	Nov 4th, 2005 07:13:04 AM
When Ann screams NOOOOO! from the empire state building. Already i'm moved by that. Her passion to protect him is so moving.
Peter Jackson doesn't care about primates by _Kayser_	Nov 4th, 2005 07:20:12 AM
The movie will do well. Hopefully the 3 hours aren't a borefest like LOTR. Im sure the first hour and a half are spent with Naomi and Adrien falling in love. As for the effects, ILM still owns WETA. Kong ranges from decent to piss poor. Judo chop to the plane! Damn monkeys.
Some help about Quicktime 7 by KID AB	Nov 4th, 2005 07:29:26 AM
I'm trying to downlaod it, but without the Itunes programme. I tried to download it with itunes but it keeps on screwing up my computer. Can someone help me out here please?
When Kong slapped the plane, by TheNeth	Nov 4th, 2005 07:56:23 AM
a little bit of urine escaped my body into my undies. Can't wait for this.
The QUICKTIME Trailer Over At Apple.Com Works Just Fine... by ZombieSolutions	Nov 4th, 2005 07:59:39 AM
go to apple.com and click on movie trailers. it's right there in all its Quicktimeian goodness. (note to PC/Windows suckers er users -- you have realized by now that PCs suck, right? and that Windows Media Player sucks ass? buy yourself a MAC and join the future!)
Will Suck Major Ass by GodfreyTibbett	Nov 4th, 2005 08:00:09 AM
Terrible art direction, Mordor in the Pacific. NY looks cool, but the island is piss poor. BTW - 200 mil max at the box office. Basically, will bomb.
the best parts of the trailer are of the real people doing the r by white owl	Nov 4th, 2005 08:00:54 AM
then when these dumb cgi animals take over the movie, that's when it'll start to suck. I can't stand massive-cgi flix anymore. Even with a name like 'King Kong' the movie still doesn't invigorate in me anymore than a "meh" feeling. Such as the trailer was. Meh. Kong doesn't look real he just has kinda-real moving eyes like Gollum did. It's all too unrealistic for me. I've seen Jurassic Park before, also Mighty Joe Young. I've seen better movies with crazy natives, and others with giant insects. Why should I waste my money on this?
damn by Dark Vapor	Nov 4th, 2005 08:26:02 AM
ha ha, "Peter HACKson" thanks for captializing the HACK, I never would have caught that one. Donkey Kong jokes, whew, you guys are original, I'll give ya that. "meh", wow you are on the cutting egde, too cool man, too cool. this movie looks like why we love movies in the first place, I am excited to go to the cineplex again, this looks like it is going to be great...you fuckin' pussies.
a bit off topic, but... by ectocriminal	Nov 4th, 2005 08:29:34 AM
...sin city did a really, really great job telling the king kong/beauty and the beast story via marv's segment. it's possible king kong ain't got shit on rourke. i still can't tell how this will pan out so i'm pretty excited. the quote at the beginning of the trailer, kong defending watts from the vrex, it all seems pretty cool, but i think it might turn into a pointless and predicitable cgi shitfest during brody's island adventuring segment. still, a jackson cgi shitfest is better than 100 percent of the other cgi shitfests on the market. and it would only be part shitfest, part complete awesomeness. ah, i shouldn't post while my mind's conflicted...i'll wait till i see the movie to post my mighty and infallible opinions.
That's funny white owl by mortsleam	Nov 4th, 2005 08:33:50 AM
Becuase in the trailer that I saw, the best parts were teh subtle facial expressions in the gigantic CGI ape. I don't think our perceptions of reality quite intersect. You might want to try a nice anti-psychotic medication to prevent further hallucinations.
GodfreyTibbett & white owl by DocPazuzu	Nov 4th, 2005 08:35:14 AM
What's it really like? I mean what's it like to be so jaded? Does it feel cool? Does it give you erections when you go athwart the grain of just about everyone else and loudly imply that your resistance to the childish glee we feel at the sheer spectacle on display and the filmmakers' obvious love for the material is somehow a sign of your superiority and sophistication? Is there guilt involved when you find yourself waiting in line along with everyone else on opening night? Curious and honest minds would like to know.
To The Haters by Alen Smithee	Nov 4th, 2005 08:44:07 AM
Fake?! Atticus Finch, do you even realize the technical leaps that have been made in the past year, let alone the past 10 (roughly when the true digital age stated, and judging by your "Donkey Kong" question - probably about the same time you were born)? DocArzt, being resposible for a return on a $200 mil. investment is hardly playing it safe. modlight, we can't agree on anything until we see the whole performance. They were saying the same thing about Cher when she appeared in Silkwood, and she went on to win an Oscar. And to all who push any film down (good or bad) - try making your own some time. It's one of the hardest things to do.
Sorry but the movie just doesn't look that good. by spider-ham	Nov 4th, 2005 08:45:15 AM
Sorry, it just doesn't. I imagine it might do well with the Jurassic Pack crowd.
Smithee is Right by Fearsme	Nov 4th, 2005 08:52:18 AM
You can knock that the film doesnt look interesting. I for one have little interest in seeing it, but ill love reading the Digifex article on how they did some of the technical stuff. And yes, making them is really hard and 99.999999% of the fanboy trolls who bitch about movies wouldn't be able to start one, much less finish one.
Fucking Apple hiijacking my system with shit! by scrumdiddly	Nov 4th, 2005 08:52:42 AM
Apps that don't ask if you want quick launch shit or toolbar shit that you can't fucking close or WHOLE OTHER PROGRAMS like fucking itunes should all be banned! Bastard boogerblasters!
re: might do well with the Jurassic Pack crowd by Colonel_Blimp	Nov 4th, 2005 08:53:14 AM
ie. pretty much the entire civilized world, then? worldwide boxoffice for jp: $914,691,118
Good God, I hope that first Kong shot is a rough one. by scrumdiddly	Nov 4th, 2005 08:58:33 AM
Oh dear. Oh dear, they're all the same. As usual, hysterical fanboys give the wrong impression. Helicopter shot, stat!
Lovedoctor Douchebag by Mr Nice Gaius	Nov 4th, 2005 09:01:40 AM
"(poofterman whining in the wind)". What??? Seriously.
QuickTime 7 standalone link: by DocPazuzu	Nov 4th, 2005 09:16:22 AM
http://www.apple.com/quicktime /download/standalone.html ..... Use it to download the clip, then download VLC Media Player, a free program which plays EVERY format without taking over your machine.
Peter Jackson raped my grandfather's childhood! by Atticus Finch	Nov 4th, 2005 09:26:09 AM
Nice.
DocPazuzu by KID AB	Nov 4th, 2005 09:49:06 AM
THANK YOU!!!!
"Haters" and "Trolls" by Amazing Inframan	Nov 4th, 2005 09:49:26 AM
Interesting how anyone with a dissenting, objective opinion is called a "hater" or a "troll". Sounds totalitarian to me, and kind of dangerous. "Land of the free" my ass. We have as much right to an opinion as you do. If you're intimidated by the free exchange of ideas, move to a country where free speech is frowned upon. There are plenty of them left, because of people like you. Bet you're not brave neough to do it, though. Only small minds feel threatened by ideas outside their comfort zone. Be bigger than that -- you can be. Flame away, lemmings! You
ok... I'm fucking sold by Uncooked_Meat	Nov 4th, 2005 09:51:07 AM
Seriously. That was badass.
Amazing Inframan by DocPazuzu	Nov 4th, 2005 10:01:43 AM
It's not about dissent. It's about the psychology behind obvious and knee-jerk negative tirades against things which in no way warrant such venom. It may very well be that King Kong will suck balls, but I think I'm safe in saying that there's nothing in the trailer which so far indicates the approach of a financial, creative and moral apocalypse on the scale of which the haters are screaming about. One can hate without being a hater. A cold-blooded, hardcore hater is someone who does nothing but drift from TalkBack to TalkBack, vomiting their hatred and contempt for just about every film project people seem the slightest bit excited about. Geek enthusiasm is anathema to them and an affront to their pathetic lives. Therefore they feel compelled to tell everyone - or at the very least imply - how fucking stupid, tasteless and worthless the rest of us are for feeling happy and excited about an upcoming film project. There is also the seemingly irresistable lure of being first in calling a film a piece of shit, since - who knows? - they may end up being right every now and then. Does it get more feeble than trying to rack up hate cred? These guys are a lower form of internet life than furry porn fans.
"it's their deciding in advance that a film will "rock" Bu by minderbinder	Nov 4th, 2005 10:05:27 AM
Hey, you get an idea of the movie from the trailer. I thought this is the best trailer I've seen in a LONG time. If the movie is able to live up to the trailer, we're in for a hell fo a treat. My current favorite "hater" cliche is whining that the movie will bomb...with "only" 200-250 million. (Which would also make it "only" the #2 or #3 movie of the year) This summer mostly sucked (with a couple exceptions like Batman), the new blockbuster season is winter, with Potter, Narnia and Kong.
DOesn't look interesting???? by slone13	Nov 4th, 2005 10:06:22 AM
Pull your heads out of your asses, morons. How can you even comment on the trailer with it up there? As one poster has already noted, this TRAILER had more emotion and drama and action than all the Star Wars prequels.
It's quite simple really. by DocPazuzu	Nov 4th, 2005 10:09:41 AM
So far, the evidence supports the idea that King Kong will be a fantastic film. The true burden of proof at this moment is weighing very heavily on the pimply shoulders of the haters.
"Interesting how anyone with a dissenting, objective opinion is by minderbinder	Nov 4th, 2005 10:11:34 AM
Censorship? Come on. There certainly are haters and trolls for this movie, just like any other popular movie. There's a difference between saying you didn't like a trailer or a movie doesn't interest you and repeatedly whining that a movie will suck or bomb. So why do people devote so much time to posting about movies they're determined to hate? Seems obsessive and a waste of time and energy.
FAKE?!?!?! by Sinisterjim	Nov 4th, 2005 10:12:10 AM
And your frame of reference is, what? The REAL 25 ft. (That's foot, a unit of measurement for you hategeeks!) gorilla?!?! What CGI looks REAL to you? Everytime there is a movie with a heavy CGI influence, you shit stains come out of the woodwork, crying about how fake it looks...why do you even bother going to these movies or wasting your already worthless life bashing them? WETA is one of the only FX companies that really breathes life into their creations, and I'll put their CG creatures up against ANY other FX studio ANY DAY! Especially the OVERATED ILM, who's so obbsessed with making it 'real', that they loose site of giving it ANY emotion. Look at the cave troll from Fellowship, your actually sympathetic when it dies, or Gollum, who helps carry a good part of The Two Towers...any of the LOTR CG characters had more life than 99% of that from other studios...I think it's time to give the FX guys at WETA props, and wait until we see the ENTIRE film, and REALLY congratulate them on a job well done, which I have ZERO doubt we will!!!
just for the record, I don't think WETA's doing CGI for by minderbinder	Nov 4th, 2005 10:42:27 AM
Their CGI department IS a little busy right now. And Donkey Kong IS named after King Kong, sorta.
Here, here Doc Pazuzu by Mr Nice Gaius	Nov 4th, 2005 10:44:38 AM
I agree with the Doc. And it's not just the "Haters vs. Geeks" argument. It's also about the serious lack of constructive debate/praise/criticism in the posts within these boards. More often than not, these Talkbacks just end up being loaded with ridiculous piffle. Naysaying simply for the sake of naysaying? I mean what are you trying to accomplish here? (Schadenfreude anyone?) And it might not be so bad...except it's the same cast of characters that keep turning up in every Talkback spouting the same garbage regardless of the topic and direction of the discussion. I mean, I suppose I could really care less...but it would be neat if the boards were used more as a way of sharing good natured ideas, enthusiasm & information for a change. Lately, the "Haters" remind me of that line from Chet in "Wierd Science" --- "Why do you have to be such a wanker?" "Because I get off on it."
MAN IN SUIT!!!! by CrispyOne	Nov 4th, 2005 10:48:56 AM
Kong is so fake, its obviously Peter Jackson in a hairy ape costume. Oh, wait, that was an interview with Jackson. Whatever.
MINDBENDER by Amazing Inframan	Nov 4th, 2005 10:50:12 AM
Nice try, but waaayyyy off base. I'm championing a tolerance for ALL perspectives, and not deciding in advance about any issue at all. I'm not begrudging anyone's right to an opinion, but other people are. I WANT people to be exicted about movies! I'm just saying that EVERYONE has a right to an opinion, but it's a shame not all opinions are welcome here. This isn't about someone having opinions -- don't think it is. It's about a group's overall lack of tolerance for OTHER people's opinions. It's about a lack of respect if one is unfortunate enough to land outside the consensus. There is nothing at all hypocritical in what I'm saying. People have a right to be excited about the film. Others have a right to question it. But that's not the way it works here. If you review the posts above, anyone who questions this thing is a "hater" and a "troll". That's pretty immature and sad. Interesting how those who don't agree with the others have derogatory names attached to them, but the masses of people are only "real fans". Interesting how those who don't agree with everyone else are vilified, while the dissenters simply say their opinions and move on. That says a lot about "the masses". If you can't make this distinction, there's no point in further discourse. And, you
just not feeling it by Silver Shamrock	Nov 4th, 2005 10:55:52 AM
sorry, a three hour tour with a cgi ape doesn't excite me. And can cityscapes of the past be recreated without that dreamy, soft focus, Sky Captain look?
Simianites, Unite! by Drexl	Nov 4th, 2005 10:56:47 AM
My last post was a bit of a goofy one but I just couldn't control myself. Anyway, as I previously bitched and moaned on another thread about the state of talkbacks I have to say I'm pleased with this one. Opinions are subjective for sure but common sense seems to prevail, despite some obvious haters. To me, this movie looks great. The key to King Kong's success is the relationship between Ann and Kong, as others have pointed out. If that clicks, everything else will fall into place. As they begin this trailer with an emotional moment and since I'm already in love with Ann desperately trying to protect Kong I think they've got it right. I checked out the previous trailer and compared some of the shots, especially the ones during the V-Rex - Kong fight. The work WETA has done here is absolutely stunning. Kong looks more impressive, his emotions are subtle yet clear, the jungle is lush and threatening... it all seems to work. Besides, what makes CGI work is not the amount of hairs or texture on a creature but the emotions we, the audience, have because of it. I won't deny I'm a huge PJ fan, since long before he started Rings and I'm rooting for him to pull this off. The notion that a director wants to honor a movie that meant much to him in his childhood is, quite frankly, fantastic and if he's gone a little James Cameron-y in the process, well, he's allowed to. I hope Adrien Brody makes his character work. I don't want him to be a dashing hero. All he needs to have is a very strong connection to Ann and a drive to rescue her. In the movie he's a playwright, thrust into a situation even he can't comprehend and this fish out of water part of his character could work really well. What is more interesting: a never-do-wrong heroic man off to save his soon to be girlfriend or a regular schmoe trying to save a beautiful woman that finds herself in a situation she shouldn't be in? Up till now Jack Black seems very serious as Denham. I do hope he goofs it up a little bit, because I prefer Denham as an overly enthusiastic dreamer. Not a cruel man but ready to go the limit for that perfect shot. I've put my faith in James Newton Howard to finish it off with an unforgettable score. I really dig his work and listening to Dinosaur proves he's got the chops for this sort of thing. In a year that, despite a lack of originality and crappy remakes (I have to say though, I really liked Batman Begins, Sith, Chocolate Factory, Sin City, War of the Worlds and Kingdom of Heaven has grown on me) Kong could be King!
RE: Mr. Nice Gauis by Sinisterjim	Nov 4th, 2005 11:08:14 AM
I could not agree more...I've been coming to this site since 1996, and Harry's vision was a place for film geeks to come together and share their love for the medium, enthusiasm for upcoming cool films and CONSTRUCTIVLY criticise things we like/dislike. Since this is a talkback for a trailer, it is not possible to properly review the film, so this is a talk back for people excited and/or weary of the upcoming film, not a forum to spew mindless hatred. In the case of Kong, it is personal to me and obviously Mr. Jackson, as well as Harry and many other film geeks, seeing a remake of this is only exciting because of the people involved, and I trust in Peter to deleiver a truly great movie, and a wonderful update of such a classic film. The original is a simple story on the outside, but has so much more going on within the context of the story, as well as what audiences can pull from it, and I expect Jackson's Kong to do the same, perhaps adding more depth, not just NEW CG creatures and fights. I'm looking forward to the Kong v. T-Rex match or the new spider sequence as much as any other geek, but the heart of the story and the adventure is what really draws me in, I truly think PJ has pulled together a first rate cast, and just in that, I can tell he's elivated this version far above what his 1996 draft was, not to mention the '76 remake.
"I'm championing a tolerance for ALL perspectives" If that&# by minderbinder	Nov 4th, 2005 11:11:56 AM
I absolutely agree that there are some who DO begrudge other's right to an opinion. But I see that it happens on both sides of the fence. You still seem hypocritical - you insist that everyone has a right to an opinion, but you complain about people who you feel have already made up their minds that they like the movie (I guess regardless of whether they are attacking other's opinions or not?). And to be honest I don't consider all statements made here to be honest opinion - if someone is a fanboy for another franchise and resentful that another movie is seemingly getting more attention and just posts trollish messages like "Kong suckz! (insert franchise here) RULZ!)" to piss people off (liked the shadenfreude call, Mr. Nice), I don't respect that as an opinion. You're being overly sensitive, people generally aren't getting disrespected because they're outside the consensus, they're getting dissed because they're being annying assholes. ****If you review the posts above, anyone who questions this thing is a "hater" and a "troll".***** That's absolutely not the case, there are people who are trolling and they've gotten called on it. Correct me if I'm wrong, but nobody has accused you off being a hater or a troll on either of these threads, correct? Stop being overly sensitive and assuming the complaints about haters are addressed to you. ****Interesting how those who don't agree with the others have derogatory names attached to them, but the masses of people are only "real fans".******* Selective reading on your part, there are plenty of people called names for liking movies ("Harry has his tongue stapled to Jackson's arse"). Vilification is bad, but let's not pretend it's only coming from one side.
Bad by ABVH	Nov 4th, 2005 11:21:59 AM
Bad trailer, maybe it's a good movie, but this trailer is BAD...NOT GOOD
Great, more disgusting fucking orks by 1908LOL	Nov 4th, 2005 11:25:38 AM
reason enough not to sit through three hours
I'm barely excited by smackfu	Nov 4th, 2005 11:31:58 AM
about this movie, but all the same to those who are shitting on the geeks for already deciding they like the movie, I think you need to consider for a moment that you're referring to a movie about a giant monkey swatting at planes from a skyscraper. I don't think it was ever intended to be Lawrence of Arabia, or compete with 'Memoirs of Gesha', for whichever douchebag made that retarded comparison. Memoirs of a Geisha will bury Kong? Really? I wasn't aware that Memoirs of a Gesha was chuck full of stunning special effects or had a giant monkey in it. Because if it doesn't have those things, the two movies are not even in the same category to be compared. Get some goddamned perspective you idiot. That's like saying 'Caddyshack wasn't near as good as Schindler's List'. They're incomparable. Geeks know they are going to like Kong because it's 99% assured they are going to get exactly what they want from this movie: over the top action, good CGI, and a giant monkey. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it painfully obvious that this is a 'geek-oriented' movie site? If you can't appreciate that sometimes people want to just kick back and watch an empty, meaningless popcorn ride, why do you have a name registered here?
Being Contrary.... by Pogue__Mahone	Nov 4th, 2005 11:33:11 AM
I love people who are contrary for the sake of being contrary. I know that everyone is entitled to their own opinions (I've HATED movies my friends have liked - ie ALL the Star Wars Prequels!)but this looks like an entertaining big budget popcorn holiday flick. I don't expect it to change the face of modern cinema. But I know I'll walk out of the theatre thinking, 'Man, that was fun!' And I'm with the poster who said that 98.7% of the people slaggin' the flick will be there in the audience opening weekend! I'm looking forward to this. I have every faith in Jackson and Crew.
Talkback makes me lose faith in humanity by Arachnyd	Nov 4th, 2005 11:35:07 AM
Fucking morons saying the CGI looks fake on Kong are vapid braindead retards drowning in their own drool. Why does this website attract so many fucktards?
The Fortune Cookie 2005 by MovieWhore	Nov 4th, 2005 11:40:05 AM
You can please All of the Geeks some of the time or Some of the Geeks All of the Time ... but you cant please ANY OF THE FUCKING HATERS EVER. If the shoe fits where it bitches.
I'm a Hater circa 1550 AD by MovieWhore	Nov 4th, 2005 11:47:45 AM
I don't know about you but that Michaelengelo hack should just give up. The clouds on the ceiling on the Sistine Chapel look soooooo fake. My daughter did better clouds this morning in the dirt with a stick. The more things change the more they stay the same.
why this movie will work (for me at least) by Colonel_Blimp	Nov 4th, 2005 11:50:30 AM
To clarify in advance: I'm not a PJ fanboy, though I think he's an excellent director. I enjoy the lotr trilogy AND the prequels at the same time. I like the original Kong but when it comes to monkeys on screen nothing beats Planet of the Apes. The two movies I'm really looking forward to this winter (until now) are Potter 4 and Munich. But the moment I realized this movie is going to be great was when I watched the trailer, and when brody and watts lean in to kiss, I actually caught myself thinking "Ann, you can't do that, what if Kong finds out!?" If I can have thoughts like that regarding a 25 foot cgi ape, PJ's doing something right allright.
Amazing Inframan by the M'hael	Nov 4th, 2005 11:52:08 AM
interesting...everyone has a right to an opinion....except people who's opinion is that you suck and should go away. i like it. all other opinions are good, but that one is not allowed. these guys are just excited, that's all. i understand your stance that alot of these guys will like the movie whether or not it's good, i get that. and you're right by most accounts. that just means that they're marketing this movie well and people such as you and i are aware of the manipulation involved, and you resent others for falling prey to it. here's my theory, i think that you're letting what others think influence what you think. merely because there are alot of people excited about this movie, you will knee-jerk reflexively resent it and all the hype, whether or not the movie is good.
The Hater perspective by Nate Champion	Nov 4th, 2005 11:52:37 AM
The difference between these two battling camps that has been so forthrightly dissected thus far in this talkback seems to me to come down to a very simple divide: the Geeks, enthusiastic optimists that they are, can get excited about virtually any movie that has even an ounce of what I like to call the "juvenile male appeal". Why do I call it that? Because about 10-15 years ago that was exactly what prompted me to get excited about the very same shit that AICN rave treatment these days: Kong, Superman, Star Wars, etc. On the flipside, the Haters, which I am a member of today, look at something like this Kong trailer and recall the infinite number of times we jonesed for whatever high-concept, super-deluxe adventure movie trailer debuted and tantalized our tastebuds and then, upon release, left so much as the taste of a big, hairy turd in our collective mouth. People can play the voice of reason, calling for constructive comments and the like, but "this looks like shit" and "this looks awesome" sound pretty much the same to me. And don't forget that this is a fucking trailer... there is really no concrete evidence for either argument, just that feeling you get, good or bad, based on your opinions and all the films you've seen before that this in some way brings to mind. You can call it cynical and jaded if you want... but on the other hand people like Harry, who get excited about each and every film, seem to have no real standards they hold films to. They find a way to justify liking just about anything, like the "dumb fun" argument, etc. This is what I see: a trailer that brings to mind about 100 other movies... and then I start thinking about why so much effort is being wasted on recycling the SAME GODDAMN MOVIES I'VE SEEN ALREADY!!!!! In fact, that is why I diss on just about everything these days... because I look at the offerings and I know it's going to sing me a tune I've already heard. I've already seen three King Kong movies. I've seen plenty of dinosaur movies. I've seen just about every "event" movie of the past 25 years. But more importantly, I've seen all of Peter Jackson's other movies, and it's clear that his days of being an iconoclast are far, far behind him. So the special effects look good/great/terrible. Who cares? So Naomi Watts looks so damn passionate staring at a blue screened ape. SO FUCKING WHAT? There is really only one test this movie needs to pass: Can it offer an original experience? Is it going to be a real movie -- i.e. a movie that isn't a big budget, check-your-brain-at-the-door rip-off? That remains to be seen... and why the chances aren't good are to my eyes fully evident in this trailer.
A losing battle by MovieWhore	Nov 4th, 2005 11:57:11 AM
You know my wife keeps telling me .."Why do you even bother reading those guys online. They just aggravate you and you know they're all just masturbating 12 year olds in their parents basement right?" ... but I've always said "Now Honey they do have some valid opposing view points ... Not everybody has the same tastes." BUT you sunsabitches are starting to make me beleive she is right AND THAT CAN'T HAPPEN. If my wife found out she was right about something, THE HEAVENS WILL FALL AND EVERYONE EVERWHERE WILL FEAR FOR THEIR LIVES. DAMMIT ALL TO HELL.
Nate Champion by DocPazuzu	Nov 4th, 2005 12:02:37 PM
You sound like Oprah when she says she "can't wear a piece of clothing more than once". So your tolerance threshold for familiar or repeated experiences is lower than most people. Wow, edgy. I'd much rather be someone who can enjoy new, original experiences as well as revel in the trappings of the familiar and loved, than a perpetually angry and resentful pisser on other people's campfires.
Ringbearer9 by DocPazuzu	Nov 4th, 2005 12:05:10 PM
I can't even begin to list how many different ways you sound ignorant in that last post.
Birth to the Winter Blockbuster by imo_01	Nov 4th, 2005 12:07:15 PM
if spielberg gave birth to the summer blockbuster with Jaws in the 1970's then jackson has certainly given us the birth of the winter blockbuster......... good movies have been released over the last few years but none have been compared to LOTR or kong (by the looks of it)... take heed movie execs. the 3 hour film is in... dont say people dont wana stay in a theatre for 3 hours, cos it aint true. they'll stay for a quality movie
"Well, we "haters" are just a little bit more on the ball than y by DocPazuzu	Nov 4th, 2005 12:14:52 PM
Now that, folks, is comedy GOLD.
yes ringbearer, you have gotten over living your life for the ne by Colonel_Blimp	Nov 4th, 2005 12:16:19 PM
and now live it, as pazuzu so eloquently puts it, to piss on other people's campfires. You've truly evolved to a higher state of consciousness. You are, indeed, holier than us.
Jack Black by Phimseto	Nov 4th, 2005 12:16:56 PM
I've said this onsite before, but I'll say it again - I thought Jack Black being in this film was somewhat lame until I discovered that his whole point is to do an Orson Welles impression and play his character as the 30's cocky auteur version of Welles. That is f'ing inspired.
"you should TRY, man!" by DocPazuzu	Nov 4th, 2005 12:20:00 PM
Well, since you insist, Ringbearer9, I'll start by contrasting your vast expertise on black & white film with your comments in the Munich TalkBack where you said - and I'm paraphrasing here - that "obviously the decision to use B&W in Schindler's List was an afterthought on Spielberg's part." ...... Shall I continue?
Ringbearer9 by MovieWhore	Nov 4th, 2005 12:20:51 PM
That's all fine and good but your comparing apples and oranges. I thought Godzilla sucked too. I though Hellboy sucked. I liked Hitchhikers guide but thought it could have been ALOT better. I loved Phantom Menace at the time it came out and saw it three times in theaters (Hell who didnt) but I have realized that it is the weakest of the SIX but still important for the story that Lucas intended. However, seeing this preview just brings chills to my spine. Yes its a story we've seen before but I had read Lord of the Rings before and it made THOSE movies that much better cuz I knew what SHOULD happen and loved HOW it did come to life. I welcome this new IMAGINING of Kong and am happy and lucky to live in a day and age where I can see such a fantastical story first created in the early thirties brought back with such realism that YOU WILL BELEIVE that a Giant Ape exists and can live and love among us. If you can't find joy in the SPECTACLE that this new Kong promises (and thus far has shown) to bring than you ARE a Hater, a Grinch, and no revelation in the world will ever pump up that oh so little heart of yours.
" And, to my eye, Schindler's list didn't use it to grea by DocPazuzu	Nov 4th, 2005 12:24:31 PM
Keep digging that hole for yourself, son.
Nate, you are on crack. by FluffyUnbound	Nov 4th, 2005 12:27:23 PM
If "juvenile male interest" were as solid-gold an entree into Talkback interest as you say it is, why was Van Helsing crucified here before it opened? Why was Catwoman crucified? Fantastic Four? The hype machine you are patting yourself on the back for evading isn't automatic. The studios have to release SOME content to build their hype around - and you know what? It's usually pretty easy to estimate the quality of the coming product based on that content. That's why the Talkback "masses" turned against the Matrix sequel hype. That's why the Talkback "masses" turned against the ST: Nemesis hype. It's because there's hype, and then there's hype. And the Kong hype has content that simply makes the movie look GOOD.
ringbearer, you realize that with your comments you just prove t by Colonel_Blimp	Nov 4th, 2005 12:33:19 PM
absolutely nothing. zip. nada.
Ring a ding ding by MovieWhore	Nov 4th, 2005 12:35:30 PM
I honestly don't remember my first thoughts attached the trailers for Hellboy and Godzilla since their total sucktitude has tainted any memory I have of either but I will say that I see ALOT of movies and MOST times (yes I said most) my first impression from the trailer is dead on. Two exceptions that come to mind are Donnie Darko (the trailer for that one had me going ???????) and Harold and Kumar which looked fucking stupid as shit but was funny as all fuck all when I actually saw it. So in my 'professional' opinion ... King Kong will rule them all this year .. hands down.
Okay, talkback goin' downhill... by Drexl	Nov 4th, 2005 12:38:07 PM
what's with the "haters" (and I really, really resent labelling people like that) goin' all well-written and with funded opinions on our asses? I know I'm gonna come off like some know-it-all idiot but I can't resist. I am a movie critic, I see a whole bunch of different international films; from the biggest spectacle blockbuster to the not-seen-by many gem during a filmfestival. I've studied film for a while and showed up on sets as a director, actor and in various other incarnations. I'm not saying I know the key to making a good movie. All I'm saying is that a lot of people here can't fathom exactly what goes into making one. The reason why I come to this site is because I like the fact that Harry, Moriarty and co. are able to conjure up that childlike (not childish) enthusiasm for a movie. The same thing that I felt, as a child, when I started falling in love with the medium. I'm a kid of the 80s and the movies that I loved back then were those "dawn of the blockbuster, Spielberg-produced" type flicks. Today's technology enables filmmakers to create stuff we're not able to see in real-life and that appeals to me. Do I wanna see big special effects films all the time? Fuck no. But if a movie comes along that takes me back to my fundamental enthusiasm for all things film, I'm sure gonna grasp the opportunity of seeing it. All I'm saying is that Kong, right now, having seen this trailer, does that for ME. It seems a lot of people agree with that. You're allowed to not give a flyin' fuck about this movie, but don't make the people that do wanna see it feel like they're freaks 'n geeks. I don't want King Kong to be brain-less escapism. I want a rousing fantasy- adventure movie with great performances, a good script and state-of-the-art effects. The look comes third. If I will like this movie it will have to work on an emotional level e.g. Kong and Ann. In my opinion, I think it will succeed tremendously.
Ringbearer9 by DocPazuzu	Nov 4th, 2005 12:41:42 PM
How can one argue with someone who thinks all movies should adhere to the same color palette as Yellow Submarine?
Drexl .. your right by MovieWhore	Nov 4th, 2005 12:42:45 PM
This talkback is going downhill. It started out with "I wasnt impressed with the Teaser but this Trailer has me really excited" by most of the people in here and then went quickly downhill when 3 or 4 people showed up .. you know who you are.
Yay! by blackwood	Nov 4th, 2005 12:45:16 PM
Teaser poster was crappy. Trailer makes up for it. Yay! Monkey! ________Talkback Cynic: Hem-hem. Actually, it's an ape.__________Me: Acutally, you're an ass. Yay! Ape!
"the parts of the film that don't involve monsters are dingy by DocPazuzu	Nov 4th, 2005 12:46:49 PM
Oh, lord...
Ringalicious by MovieWhore	Nov 4th, 2005 12:50:20 PM
Sounds like to me that any movie that uses CGI instead of real effects just doesnt cut if for you. Have you liked ANY movie that had CGI cuz the Lord of the Rings pretty much cornered the market on the best you can do in a movie. If it were up to you we would all end up watching 'real' gay cowboys eating 'real' pudding. Yay 'real' effects.
Thats retarded by MovieWhore	Nov 4th, 2005 12:56:52 PM
Are you saying that the CGI in Sin City looked better than Lord of the Rings? I loved Sin City but it was more comic booky/cartoony while LOTR seemed MUCH more realistic. If your only gripe is that daytime textures have too many red/blue hues when seen under a microscope I think your going to watch movies for ALL the wrong reasons.
Its Lunch Time by MovieWhore	Nov 4th, 2005 12:59:38 PM
I'll be back in an hour ... you guys can fight it out awhile without me.
Ringbearer... dzjeezes by Drexl	Nov 4th, 2005 01:13:33 PM
Don't know where to begin really... If you judge movies because their CGI is in this or that colour and Kong is grimy because the makers couldn't afford it... I'm beyond givin' you advice. Do I have to somehow spell it out for ya? What will make Kong good? S-C-R-I-P-T. Oh, and sure it's about a giant monkey and his blonde bombshell, "how the fuck can that be good?" right... any story, how ludicrous it may be, can go either way. It's not WHAT they're telling me that interests me. It's HOW they're telling it. Good stories can go awfully wrong and vice versa. Kong is one story that can go on for many, many years. The 1933 was a fantastic version, the '76 a not so decent interpretation (even though I somewhat like it for nostalgic reasons) and this one has a chance to be on par with the original. And isn't that all what Jackson wanted?
Batman Begins was fucking WICKED by InZodWeTrust	Nov 4th, 2005 01:13:46 PM
Had to say it one last time.
Ringbearer9 by Mr Nice Gaius	Nov 4th, 2005 01:20:31 PM
Stop, dude. Please just stop. The fact that you don't like (a)the "limited" color pallette (b)the unpainted stick shacks of the Natives that look like "Mordor in the Pacific" and (c) the bad visual elements of LOTR just screams idiocy to me. I'll give you this ONE point: that is your personal preference/view. But you are basing these assumptions on what? A total of about 30 seconds of film from this trailer??? Do even read your stuff before posting???
Dingy and grimy must be Ringbearer code for "not totally fucking by FluffyUnbound	Nov 4th, 2005 01:28:51 PM
I thought the city scapes in Clones looked retarded. Good Lord, the cityscapes in Judge Dredd looked better than the Meet George Jetson shit in AOTC. And no one who knew the first thing about the LOTR films would conclude that the non-CGI budget was stinted. The budget for ACTORS may have been stinted, but the only way they could have spent more on the production design and art design would have been to electroplate every surface with gold. I think the Clones comments above are getting us to the heart of the matter here, aren't they?
That Ann Darrow.... by BDT	Nov 4th, 2005 01:34:01 PM
...how dare that floozy! She can't have that big ape. He's mine! Even though the soft "touchable" fur is now matted and muddy and the wonky tooth is gone, he's still got those brutish good looks and soulful eyes. She must've read my talkback the last time and stopped screaming long enough notice that Kong wasn't so bad after all. I should have never said anything.
RE: Ringbearer9 by Mr Nice Gaius	Nov 4th, 2005 01:35:25 PM
You know, there are a ton of Oscar awards, box office records, critical praise, and a worldwide phenom that would GREATLY disagree with you on at least 3 of Jackson's prior films. I'm really, really, really sorry you didn't like PJ's choice of the blue/grey/red colors. You know, I once saw a sunset that just had way too much orange in it and I thought to myself, "God, what a limited color pallette!".
FX? by ANGELS-EGG	Nov 4th, 2005 01:39:33 PM
Ummm...oookay. lets take raiders a s a example the FX are dated looking yet the film is regarded as a classic...why? entertainment!! Kong looks fantastic...20 years ago we would of dreamed to see visuals like this on the big screen. What makes me laugh is that even when these critics of CGFX see a model shot they still think its CG. How about...go see a movie to enjoy it? I still enjoy Flash gordon and that has some real hokey FX. Kong looks like it'll entertain and thats what im looking for this xmas!
Amen to that! by Drexl	Nov 4th, 2005 01:43:42 PM
Abso-fucking-lutely Angels-Egg. Your post is the one I needed for some closure on this talkback. I've said all I had to say and your post says it all. Have a good discussion fellows. And with that, I leave...
"he's right, it's all boring red and blue, and mud and d by minderbinder	Nov 4th, 2005 01:45:37 PM
Are you honestly asking if we have an objection to night scenes being blue, fire being red, and primitive huts made of sticks? If so, no, not really. Especially since fire IS red, and most primitive huts ARE made of those things. You honestly think that they're cutting corners on sets and costumes? And they're trying to hide everything by having all quick cuts and night scenes (even though LOTR and from the looks of this trailer, Kong, don't have any more night scenes, than the average film. Or shortage of long unbroken shots either)? Just curious, do you think ALL cgi is weak, if not what movies do you think have good CGI? And if so, how do you propose doing creatures in contemporary films? Puppets? Stop motion? Man-in-suit?
drexl, you pretty much summed it up in your penultimate post by Colonel_Blimp	Nov 4th, 2005 01:46:51 PM
very good. If this was a high school film I would be the guy in the back standing up slowly starting to applaud you, while eventually the whole crowd would join in. as for you, senor ringbearer: the v-rex vs. kong clips, how are they grimy/shot in darkness and/or twilight? limited color palette there too? it's a jungle, it's supposed to be green! wasn't the battle on the pelennor (sp?) fields set in sunshine? and what you refer to as dingy, grimy and underfinanced is actually called visual style. I hate them there film noirs, it's all shadows, cant see the actors faces or anything. Couldn't they afford proper lighting? Or color film? christ, I'm actually arguing with a guy who enjoyed van helsing.
well, thats your pen-penultimate post now. by Colonel_Blimp	Nov 4th, 2005 01:48:43 PM

CGI just looks fake in a different way than models and stop moti by Citizen Arcane	Nov 4th, 2005 01:59:50 PM
You can't tell me that you can do a stop motion monkey or a man in suit that will look any less fake. In stop motion it looks too jerky. In CGI it looks too fluid. A guy in a suit usually looks like a guy in a suit. To tell you the truth, Congo did more with apes than anything. It combined robots with guys in suits. But that's the thing, CGI is easier than messing with different technology according to what fits the scene. Just slap a uniform CGI tarp over the whole thing. Throw in a couple actual sets and actors and cash the check in the morning. Fine by my ass, I'm in digital film school. This stuff will be my bread and butter. All things being equal I'd rather work with the models and robots though.
i was 'eh' through the first half...but then DAMN! by s0nicdeathmonkey	Nov 4th, 2005 02:03:18 PM
i actually care now.
interesting post, Arcane by minderbinder	Nov 4th, 2005 02:05:32 PM
But would the techniques used in Congo work for a 25 foot ape? I love to see a combination of techniques used, but I don't see how using physical techniques would work for more than a few shots on a film like this. Don't forget, besides Kong himself, you've got dinos, giant insects, not to mention all the stuff Kong is destroying.
trailer looks great by stvnhthr	Nov 4th, 2005 02:35:29 PM
I can't believe there are naysayers about this film. Maybe Harry should post some interesting recipes with crow as the main ingredient as there will be a lot to eat after this film premieres. What is the deal with Quicktime? My Quicktime pro 6 wouldn't play the trailer and now I've installed ver. 7 and it overwrote my version 6, but no longer allows me to save the trailer. Quicktime is nice, but not worth $30 every 6 months.
Chillax, peoples by Ribbons	Nov 4th, 2005 02:48:27 PM
"Haters" and "apologists," pizza party on me! Wooo!
where are the DVD Picks and Peeks for November? by D	Nov 4th, 2005 03:09:42 PM
... and Kong looks great!
"What about Apolohaters?" by DocPazuzu	Nov 4th, 2005 03:11:17 PM
Who could hate the Master of Disaster? The Count of Monte Fisto?
I feel bad for you people... by rotten666	Nov 4th, 2005 03:13:16 PM
I loved lord of the rings. I really enjoyed the prequals. I can't fucking wait for this movie to come out. It is really fun to be a movie fan and not a divisive hater who needs to shit on everything so he sounds like he has a critical opinion. I get to enjoy everything!!!!
by BDT	Nov 4th, 2005 03:17:59 PM
I've got very sensitive eyes. I can't take long periods of movies that are close to "real" colors but somehow off especially if they seem kind of washed out. King Kong has rich, lovely colors-- just gorgeous for this kind of movie. No problem for me and I am overly picky. Guess that makes the one guy complaining the loneliest number. Hope his/her Jar-Jar action figure is sufficient to keep him/her company while he/she mutters whiney complaints. The rest of us geeks get to look forward to a dream that, after 37 years, will finally be realized.
The Future is Now!! ... not by MovieWhore	Nov 4th, 2005 03:30:18 PM
I for one won't be happy with CGI FX until you can FEEL the movie around you. The wind, the leaves, the smell of the air. Until then all CGI sucks! Imaging what it will do for porn!
Speaking of "Batman Begins"... by jorson2	Nov 4th, 2005 03:31:30 PM
No sooner do they throw out Howard Shore than they temp track their KONG trailer with Zimmer / Newton-Howard's "Batman Begins" music. Nice.
"The Laughing Liquidator " by DocPazuzu	Nov 4th, 2005 03:33:07 PM
I may have to use that. With your kind permission, of course.
Should Woulda Coulda by MovieWhore	Nov 4th, 2005 03:35:02 PM
You know they SHOULD have just used stop animation miniatures for Kong and then ... oh wait .. they did that already ..never mind
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