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first biatches by SirBiatchReturns	Aug 14th, 2005 11:40:39 AM
who cares about Aquaman?
wow by calami-shami	Aug 14th, 2005 11:41:26 AM
i was close
REALLY CLOSE! by calami-shami	Aug 14th, 2005 11:42:14 AM

Ahh, scoops by sefsterJ	Aug 14th, 2005 11:43:24 AM
Good ol' Wahlberg; f'in with the press...and y'all deserve it goddamnit. This shit ain't happenin' and you know it. Just fun to add yet another story that isn't going anywhere to the list of tasty scoops.
arse by The Dubliner	Aug 14th, 2005 11:49:37 AM
arse
Not Going To Happen by Waspo	Aug 14th, 2005 11:54:19 AM
Cameron does a movie every ten year or so, therefore he has another two years before he makes another movie. Therefore, it won't happen. At least it better not happen with Marky Mark playing Aquaman.
Nice to see Harry's finally joining in the gay-bashing that& by gamerawangi	Aug 14th, 2005 12:02:00 PM
Hey Harry! What's your title going to be when they announce the Black Panther movie?!?!?!
classy by dr.bulber	Aug 14th, 2005 12:02:08 PM
minus the W.
Cameron needs to see WATERWORLD by FrankDrebin	Aug 14th, 2005 12:05:29 PM
because Costner was basically Aquaman, and that movie reeked. Maybe Aquaman's ability to summon fish will make all the difference! (Seriously, AICN, we need to be able to use italics for sarcasm.)
Aquafag??? WTF? by Jbud	Aug 14th, 2005 12:11:45 PM
Harry, for those of us unfamiliar with "Blackjack" or what the inside joke is about black porn stars, that headline comes off as pretty damn homophobic. But I assume there's an explanation so how about some context please?!
oops I mean black dildos by Jbud	Aug 14th, 2005 12:13:05 PM

Aquaman?!?! why can't anyone make me a Mighty Thor film? by mansep	Aug 14th, 2005 12:22:27 PM
it's about time we had some kick-ass Conan-style film. No more of these namby-pamby lycra poofs
harry was talking about that entourage episode by fried samurai	Aug 14th, 2005 12:24:37 PM
It has nothing to to with being homophobic or racist..peace
shut. the. fuck. up. by Mr Brownstone	Aug 14th, 2005 12:26:50 PM
I love how talk backers swing from extreme intolerance to massive oversensitivity. and the headline was a reference to a line in a TV show you quivering little pussies. JESUS! you people make Kim Jong Ill seem like Emelda Marcos.
by jbearx	Aug 14th, 2005 12:27:06 PM
Does it really surprise anyone that the word fag is used so liberally here? I'm gay, could care less....it's just a word! Recently there was a review from one of Harry's sources on here of Skeleton Key, and this bonehead went on about how you could catch a glimpse of Kate Hudson's breasts, which according to him is probably the best part of the movie! Folks we have idiots like this on here, who live in their parent's basement, and pause movies like Skeleton Key at that very precise moment where you can somewhat see Hudson's boob just so they can toss off....Massive Surprise that the word fag is used....By the way Harry, not once was the word nigger used in your review of Hustle & Flow (it's about a rapping pimp!) just an observation...thanks
Because Thor sucks ass by DukeOfSpiders	Aug 14th, 2005 12:29:05 PM
Aquaman is much maligned, and utterly unfairly. Read the Jim Aparo and Mike Grell issues form the '70s or the Peter David stuff from the '90s. He's not just the guy from Super Friends.
People!! The issue here is AQUAMAN??!! by Hound of Ulster	Aug 14th, 2005 12:42:54 PM
If I have saod it once, I have said it a thousand times: It has to be Matt Damon, in the '70's Justice League gear, getting snubbed, dissed, and abasically shat upon by the rest of the team..until he of course saves their collective asses for the umpteenth time...and then they just go right on saying " Oh yeah! Victory again for the Justice League!!" No respect at all. The dude is like Rodney Dangerfield without sex appeal!
i digged peter david's take on aquaman too by fried samurai	Aug 14th, 2005 12:43:42 PM
Especially when he gave him that hook.Some pretty good stories when he was writing it..peace
Mr. Brownstone!!! by jbearx	Aug 14th, 2005 12:47:59 PM
Who are the "YOU PEOPLE" you are referring to...Us Gay People, trust me...we're not pussies or oversensitive...we just simply seek fair treatment. Of course you could be an asshole that treats everyone other than yourself poorly. It's called clout and tact, I highly doubt you know what having that would entail!
grrrr by smackfu	Aug 14th, 2005 12:52:41 PM
I've said it a thousand times and I'll say it again. Will Ferrell must play Aquaman!!!
Oh, well, I'm SOOOOO sorry!!! by gamerawangi	Aug 14th, 2005 12:57:30 PM
Yeah, sorry I don't watch every overrated lame-ass show this site goes ga-ga over. And remember folks, if you hear a slur on TV, it's okay to repeat, 'cause, you know, it was on a totally cool tv show. That you watched in your parent's basement. Which remings me... Dear Mr. Jbearx, if you're such the language expert, please note that it is not "could care less", but "COULDN'T care less"! And I'm very glad to see that you are not offended when straights say "fag" or other anti-gay slurs. However, I see it as "one word at a time". "Let's call everything we don't like gay! People we don't like are fags! 'Cause bein' either is bad-bad-bad!!!" And then wonder why so much of the population equates us with evil. But that's my opinion. Guess I should finally stop being a cheapskate, cough up the money to expand my cable service, and waste my time watching reviewers' darlings while the real world goes on outside. And to Mr. Brownstone: Oh, how you must be the darling of your high school debate team. You SO put me in my place.
I thought liberals were all for free speech and expression? by Silver Shamrock	Aug 14th, 2005 12:59:33 PM
unless it's designated "hate speech" or gay bashing. What a way to demonstrate tolerance.
Could work if... by Dagtastic	Aug 14th, 2005 01:02:13 PM
they explored out how trully silly Aquaman is in terms of a real world superhero. Get Parker and Stone to help with the script (ala Sea-man from South Park) I'm still waiting for Starman.
Harry, there were 3 pornstars with Black dildos by Det. John Kimble	Aug 14th, 2005 01:08:56 PM
I thought you'd remember.
The funniest thing in this post ... by chrth	Aug 14th, 2005 01:12:30 PM
Is the notion that AICN is relevant anymore. Always out-scooped, always out-classed, as far as I can tell its only reason for continuing existence is to pimp amazon.com products.
Poor choice for article subject by buxley	Aug 14th, 2005 01:18:09 PM
In joke or no, that was a pretty lame /offensive subject for this article. Think before you type?
by foreignerbelt	Aug 14th, 2005 01:20:06 PM
haha. you guys have a link to fucking Suicide Girls for a story. I cannot stop laughing. also jbearx (gay name, I know because I am a HUGE gay porn fan) thank you for letting me know that you can see Kate Hudson's tit in Skeleton Key I am totally going to see it now. And I could swear that somewhat recently they remade aquaman so he was fucking bitter and funny, much the way they remade Green Archer. also he doesnt look as much like a pansy anymore I thought, since he looks older and he is sans hand. I havent picked up the comic in a while, so correct me if I'm wrong.
it's a great pitch, at least by Chief Redcock	Aug 14th, 2005 01:24:10 PM
it could be a great film too, if they draw from the peter david issues and possibly let him write the screenplay. peter david is god.
dumb by reckni	Aug 14th, 2005 01:24:57 PM
Marky Mark is probably your ultimate homosexual fantasy Mr. Knowles. Next time you see Dirk, please, ask him to kindly grab his ankles. I'm sure he'd blush. Flamer.
Whoa up, there... Think about this. by Rakafraker	Aug 14th, 2005 01:25:55 PM
I think y'all are a little TOO sensitive. Now I ain't gay, but I don't bash 'em. Nor do I totally agree with their lifestyle, but HEY: They are them and I am me. To each their own and so forth. 'Nuff said. >ON TO THE REASON I AM HERE... How about this for a premise: George Lucas Inc. producing the Green Lantern series. Before y'all get your socks in a knot, think about it. Who else can make so many diverse creatures and tie them all together in a morality play? All that I ask for is someone else to direct.
Good Vibrations?...For Marky Mark's Ass by Papa CaveDweller	Aug 14th, 2005 01:32:04 PM
DC must be getting desperate for a franchise. Supes will hit, Batman had pretty decent sucess but Marky Mark still takes it in the can.
and rodney dangerfield.... by Chief Redcock	Aug 14th, 2005 01:34:47 PM
...doesn't have sex appeal... errr, i don't think.
reckni by Chief Redcock	Aug 14th, 2005 01:36:56 PM
you're a piece of shit
relax people by chewman	Aug 14th, 2005 01:38:40 PM
I'm gay and I took no offense at Harry's words.I would actually have preferred not to have a headline with the word fag in it but oh well. I am not speaking for gays allover but Aquafag isn't so bad.It should be taken in the spirit that it was said. I actually take more offense at all the homophobia that takes place in the talkbacks. There is nothing worse than agreeing with someones comments on a movie and then having them show their ignorance with some fag joke. You have to just take it all with a grain of salt and just remember where it is coming from.
chief redcock by reckni	Aug 14th, 2005 01:40:22 PM
aquafag
God damn it... enough with the James Cameron rumors, please... by AristidesTheJust	Aug 14th, 2005 01:42:14 PM
We get a new fucking rumor per week. In this one instance, maybe AICN could sit its ass on a rumor until they get some kind of multiple confimration. Just James Cameron rumors, please.
Classless by ed_wood_jr	Aug 14th, 2005 01:43:15 PM
Don't care if it's a reference to something else. Harry: if you feel it's truly okay to make that type of joke, let your readers know, so some of us can make the decision to get our cool news elsewhere. If you recognize that some folks might be offended by the use of certain names, perhaps a change in the post's title should occur.
by foreignerbelt	Aug 14th, 2005 01:44:24 PM
rakafraker, if George Lucas ends up involved with anything even touching the Green Lantern movies, I will hunt you down. In fact, kindly keep that name off of your lips for any movies or movie ideas that are just being formed, it jinxes them. Its like telling an actor 'good luck' or remarking to your pitcher that he is in the middle of a no hitter
Actually, this could be brilliant. by I Dunno	Aug 14th, 2005 01:46:03 PM
I know this is a non-story and it's not going to happen but think about it for a second. The director of the #1 movie of all time (for better or worse), hasn't done a real movie in 8 years, decides to do a superhero movie but all the heroes are taken so he's stuck with Aquaman. And Aquaman sucks, is gay, if you will. He has to make an interesting movie about Aquaman, starring Wil Farrel. Make the check out to cash, please.
Why all the hate for Aquaman by Crimson Dynamo	Aug 14th, 2005 01:52:28 PM
when its the Sub-Mariner with the tiny little wings on his feet
Aquaman's other super-powers by Voice O. Reason	Aug 14th, 2005 01:52:37 PM
Aquaman has other super-powers. He can breathe water, his body is strong enough to swim in and withstand the pressures of the ocean, and he possesses superhuman endurance. You guys are just ignorant.
Silver Shamrock by gamerawangi	Aug 14th, 2005 01:54:44 PM
Ah, yes, the new arguement againts "liberals". We're the real intollerant ones. Well, yeah, we are intollerant. Intollerant of hate, slurs, bashing, etc. And we're not taking it like meek puppies anymore, babycakes. You try to sneak it in under "free speech", and we're gonna call you on it.
Aquaman... will the film also feature Seaponce or Waterwoofter? by mansep	Aug 14th, 2005 01:56:39 PM

Where there's Aquaman you hafta have Black Manta by Borgnine JR	Aug 14th, 2005 01:56:50 PM

And to ed_wood_jr... by gamerawangi	Aug 14th, 2005 02:03:13 PM
Kudos. 'Nuff said.
Aquafag? by MacGuffin	Aug 14th, 2005 02:15:34 PM
How dare Harry use the term "Aquafag"! I think he should be fired and his web site taken down and his film critc licence revoked! While we're at it, I think Rainn Wilson (the actor on Entourge who originally spoke that disgraceful line)should be fired from acting and should do community service on Fire Island! How dare he read that line that was written for him! As a matter of fact, I think the writers and director and producers of Entourage should all be fired for letting such a dispicable word be spoken on television. I am ashamed of all of these people, especially you Harry. I'm disappointed in you the most. You clearly have overestimated the sense of humor of your readers. In the future you should show a little more sensitivity to the young impresionable minds that make their way onto your hate filled web site from hell. Shame on you Mr Knowles.
"Jim Cameron was joking around" by Uga	Aug 14th, 2005 02:22:55 PM
It even says that in the story, for God's sake. You aquaqueer.
warrior-poet may not be scared of gays, but he is scared of come by Some Dude	Aug 14th, 2005 02:37:46 PM
You are a fucking retard if you think Macguffin's post is serious. So not only are you a homophobe, but you are also a retard. Kudos!
Even though you can explain it away as an obscure reference... by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 14th, 2005 02:40:11 PM
You're still a fucking jerk-off, Harry.
"Aquafag" made me laugh out loud by smallberries	Aug 14th, 2005 02:51:37 PM
Lighten up, fags.
This is a joke, right? by performingmonkey	Aug 14th, 2005 02:52:21 PM
Wahlberg is a joke. Aquaman is a joke. Cameron's sanity since Titanic is a joke. Harry is a joke. This site is a joke. This is a joke, right?
If we do it, we're doing it because we like Vince! by RezE11even	Aug 14th, 2005 02:58:52 PM
It would kick all sorts of ass if Cameron actually did this. Or if Mandy Moore was in it. I would buy stock in the fucking company if they made the movie based off the show.
Aquaman by Gregg Araki! by OurManInMontr	Aug 14th, 2005 03:25:11 PM
Seeing how this particular topic (Aquaman!) seems to attract a lot of gay talkbackers, or at least finally installing a nice comfort zone for bolting out the closet, this would be one of many edgy, talented directors to consider attaching to this piece of shit project (like it's ever gonna happen). Anyway, I agree with our man in Tijuana; what we really need is a big screen remake of The Man From Atlantis from the 70's, with Sean Hayes in the Bobby Ewing role. And warrior-poet, hope for your sake you're not as mercilessly retarded as your posts make you look. MacGuffin was kidding; with any luck, he was luring your dumb fuckin' ass. Sadly, it worked.
performingmonkey... by OurManInMontr	Aug 14th, 2005 03:26:59 PM
The answer is 'Yes'.
The only reason he said it... by Ribbons	Aug 14th, 2005 03:29:53 PM
...is because he is supposed to be, more or less, the character who said it in "Entourage." No, you don't know "shitty TV shows" that this site pimps (maybe because "Entourage" isn't one of them), but have you ever known Harry to be homophobic before? The closest thing I can think of to a slur on Harry's part is when he called the Thunderbirds fey. So explain, justify, and rationalize your kneejerk reactions away all you want, but I have a sneaking suspicion that most of you flew off the handle because you wanted an excuse to bitch at Harry. Where the fuck are you guys on 'Superman Returns' TalkBacks (where people actually say that Bryan Singer is going to ruin the movie because he's gay)? I have to read through that intolerant garbage without as much solidarity as I've seen devoted to a stupid Aquaman reference. We really do like to bitch about anything and everything, don't we? As for 'Aquaman,' eh. This isn't going to happen, but I wouldn't mind too much if it did. Wahlberg's probably not a good choice though.
jbearx by Mr Brownstone	Aug 14th, 2005 03:34:33 PM
I wasn't referring to gay or straight people. I was talking about hair trigger sensitivity over a harmless joke in the headline. Thanks for making my point for me. Again.
gay or not by BurlIvesLeftNut	Aug 14th, 2005 03:37:18 PM
Aquaman has one of the coolest costumes ever. It has always been one of my favorites. And you could make a cool Aquaman movie. With enough creativity and energy, you could make just about anything cool. Unfortunately I doubt anyone would invest that much effort in Aquaman. And to those who don't think Thor would make a great movie: You are way wrong. But whatever.
Everyone knows it is simply unacceptable to demean or insult ano by Swarmy	Aug 14th, 2005 03:40:45 PM
.....just sayin.........
Language, Please... by Wilks	Aug 14th, 2005 03:51:29 PM
I understand Harry was only quoting Entourage, but the headline didn't have context and was over-the-top. Fag is a loaded word -- would you have used the N-word in a headline? How 'bout "Kike," or "Spic," or other epithets? Probably not. Fag is now less demeaning than those words. A lot of us fanboys and girls are gay and put up with enough disparaging language. I for one I hear enough of the word elsewhere -- I expect better from Harry and Aintitcool. Thanks.
I think its hysterical when someone calls me a fag by BurlIvesLeftNut	Aug 14th, 2005 03:53:49 PM
I am always likes, "And?"
They response from the gay readers is childish by Razorback	Aug 14th, 2005 03:58:42 PM
You are just pretending to be upset because you took the headline out of context and didn't realize it... so now, to cover up your mistake, you are going to pretend to be upset as a way to save face. I think Harry is a stupid fuck and those who write for this site are complete whores who sell their "reviews" to the highest bidder, but some of you in this thread are worse when you try to squeeze out bigotry from something this benign.
And let's not forget Spiderfag, the X-Fags, Batfag, Hell-bat by J-Dizzle	Aug 14th, 2005 04:02:51 PM
Sorry, had to do the other superheroes.
If there was a just and loving Management at HBO... by Johnny Smith	Aug 14th, 2005 04:03:13 PM
...Entourage would have been cancelled instead of Carnivale.
Almost forgot the Fabulous Four! by J-Dizzle	Aug 14th, 2005 04:03:34 PM

Jeez, the gays who visit this sight are sensitive. Imagine if by Samuel Steamer	Aug 14th, 2005 04:08:54 PM
Do what you like with your sex lives but fuck you if you get offended by such a little comment.
"Aquamylover" Don't try to mask your obvious homophobia deat by WONKABAR	Aug 14th, 2005 04:10:33 PM
I know who you are. Don't make light of your true feelings for Dicaprio.
language keeps me locked and repeated by delatao	Aug 14th, 2005 04:16:22 PM
sigh... "His big new theme was tolerance. A new take on the ancient Christian virtue of charity. Turning the other cheek, ackknowledgement that what people did they were compelled to do. You had to accept it ALL---that was the only alternative to fighting with everybody about everything. You had to recognize that this cat would rip you off and that cat would help you and the third would some other bit. Everybody was doing his own thing. Everybody was as good as they could afford to be. The question was: Could you dig it? If you could take the comic's attitude that everything was funny and stretch it the Christian attitude that everything is lovable or the Hindu attitude that is sacred -- imagine that, sacred!--- you might open the door on a whole new universe of love and beauty and goodness. You would relate to people with love instead of hate and competition. Relating loive to them, they would be moved to relate love back to you. Eventually, instead of all sort of warring people, there would be one sacred family. Everybody sitting around the same table and having a ball. That was it. That was the end" -Ladies and Gentlemen-LENNY BRUCE!!
Glad girls only wanna get you high. by sinewave	Aug 14th, 2005 04:16:38 PM
It's funny, the average age of these posters seems to be about 14. Every time I check these talkbacks, the posters only seem to be interrested in either being the first poster, making fun of Harry's weight or dissing either the article or other posters. Such a loving community here on AICN. Everyone's raging like a pack of hemerroids up in this mug!
Aquaman talks to fishes, Namor is as strong as The Thing. by mullymt	Aug 14th, 2005 04:21:27 PM
Sheesh! Don't you people know your comic books? Am I the only guy in this talkback cool enough to know that?
"dON'T U C? pETER pARKER AS GHEY ANTI-HERO IS CLEARLY THE VE by SPACEHUNTER3-D	Aug 14th, 2005 04:30:46 PM
Didn't you post that once jsadighi? I think everyody who posts on AICN(cept me)is either gay or the closet. It's a proven scientific fact.
plural of fish is FISH by Calico Pete	Aug 14th, 2005 04:47:42 PM
To all a' youse who think "Joey Trebiani sleeps with the fishes," is a lesson in grammar, just fyi, "fishes" is the present tense 3rd person singular conjugation of the verb "to fish".
please, let's not have marky mark. by yeah i'm a jerk!	Aug 14th, 2005 04:49:43 PM
i really don't think this film is a reality, and i can't see james cameron being involved. but if this is true i really hope marky mark isn't in the film. i'd rather see an unknown in the lead. somehow though i don't think warner bros. is gonna spend the money necessary to make an aquaman film. although a spoof with owen wilson might work.
Yes, this sounds logical. by dr_dreadlocks	Aug 14th, 2005 04:52:38 PM
It's Battle Angel Alita that Cameron is making next. The pre-production for that will be so extensive that I doubt he'll even be thinking that far ahead right now. It's obviously a bit of jest. But, a scoop is a scoop, I suppose.
If fish could talk by Calico Pete	Aug 14th, 2005 04:53:00 PM
you would not understand them... unless you were Aquaman. [to paraphrase Wittgenstein]
OMG HE SAID 'AQUAFAG!!!!' by Johnno	Aug 14th, 2005 04:58:28 PM
Harry's promoting cigarettes!!!! Cigarettes that work underwater!!! Where do I get these?!!!
re: "likes to tuck the legs of farm animals into the top of his by BurlIvesLeftNut	Aug 14th, 2005 05:05:19 PM
Thanks for the tip! I am so tired of those fucking calves slipping away. Thanks to your own practical knowledge, now I will also know how to engage in not only beastiality, but sophomoric humor as well! Now if only you would share how you reappropriate the undigested corn from your own shit so that you can eat it again and again, we could all enjoy the three things you offer up to humanity.
Namor is gayer than Aquaman by Borgnine JR	Aug 14th, 2005 05:15:40 PM
I mean check out Namor's shorty short bathing suit and those waxed eyebrows. Arthur Curry rules.
I learnt an interesting fact today..... by emeraldboy	Aug 14th, 2005 05:17:57 PM
One day Loyd Brun( an exec who used to work for ABC) was sitting in his office and was looking in his intray and spied two screen plays. Who read both and was stunned. He commissioned both immediately. Robert Iger who was Eisners hand picked heir to the Disney thrown Hated both Shows. Brun got fired. The Shows Are Desperated Housewives and Lost. That Lost has been the success that it has been on both sides of the atlantic has given ABC much to think about. Brun meanwhile got employed by Yahoo. What a wierd place hollywood is two of the bigges and DH's case most hyped shows and the guy who brought them to life got fired. With Bruns arrival at Yahoo, however the lost conspiracy internet has Sky rocketed. I wouldnt rule out the possibility of a Cameron/ Wahlberg team up. This Summer we have had Cruise and Speilberg. So it could happen. Former teenny boober hooks up with Hollywoods most Tynrannical director. Hmmmm....
hainesrs, I'm sorry your mother and father were ignorant cal by Cameron1	Aug 14th, 2005 05:32:53 PM

Samuel Steamer by gamerawangi	Aug 14th, 2005 05:32:55 PM
Oh, soooooo sorry for being overly sensitive. But let's take a look, shall we? Do blondes ever have total strangers come up to them and damn them to hell for being born a blonde? Do blondes turn on the tv, channel surf, and usually find some "religious" hack calling for stripping them of all rights and demanding they dye their hair for the sake of America's morals? Any blondes you know of who were beaten, stripped, and then left to die, tied to a fence for their hair color? And do blondes live in a country where the government practically condones anti-blonde behavior? Did you ever worry about being beaten EVERY FUCKING DAY in school for being a blonde? Walk a mile in these shoes, kiddo, and see how thick skinned you are after you cross the finish line.
And another thing, Mr. Steamer by gamerawangi	Aug 14th, 2005 05:38:46 PM
It's "homos". Small "h" and no possessive "s". We "Homo's" (sic) may be dumb, but at least we can spell.
Wow, I don't which is funnier... by WONKABAR	Aug 14th, 2005 05:39:56 PM
the fact that Entourage did a send-up of Harry, or the possibility that Cameron might really do Aquaman. Tough call.
Aquaman . . . SHITDICK! by mascan	Aug 14th, 2005 05:41:44 PM

One thing I've learned from this thread is that gay people h by I Dunno	Aug 14th, 2005 05:48:18 PM
And give me a break with the whole persecution fetish. It's illegal to descriminate people based on sexual preferance, isn't that enough? It's not my fault that gays go out of their way to act like jackasses. The last time I checked, acting like a jackass warranted an ass kicking, regardless of your craving for the cock. So lighten up. I don't advocate violence against gay but if you can take a dick, you can take a joke.
eer, uh, I meant... I don't KNOW which is funnier by WONKABAR	Aug 14th, 2005 05:55:13 PM
my bad
Now I am sad. by OurManInMontr	Aug 14th, 2005 06:09:03 PM
With the arrival of a few REAL-LIFE homophobe haters (or at least they better be; I can only hope no sane, respectful person would think they're making a point with simply VICIOUS, unfunny hate posts), this talkback has turned sour. A lot of very smart people (you know who you are, gay or straight) are wasting time and energy trying to reason with animals. And don't go beating on me saying that I'm another quitter who'd rather look the other way... it's a fact there is always an IRREVERSIBLY hateful minority on any touchy topic; you just need to realize that they ARE in effect a minority, that they ARE in effect irreversible in their ways, and that their simple, spiteful howls have no effect on anyone sporting a functioning brain. There is community and respect elsewhere. These fucks are like a passing fartfume in a living room... the rest of the party is still good.
Having seen "Entourage" or not is irrelevant by chardday	Aug 14th, 2005 06:16:06 PM
The joke was offensive there and it's offensive here. And while the unchecked homophobia on display in these talkback threads certainly show that Harry knows his audience, it should also underscore how we are not yet at a point where straight men can offer up hate speech as humor under the argument that it's all in good fun. The point has been made here already, but unless you boys can similarly sign off on AQUANIGGER, AQUAKIKE, or AQUAFATSO, say you're sorry and shut the fuck up.
Lets bring back "nigger" and "kike" while were at it. by cookylamoo	Aug 14th, 2005 06:18:24 PM
They were always good for a laugh. Fuck them if they can take a joke. Now lets all go out and force sex on a woman to welcome back the good old days.
"whos gonna save the world when supermans doin the dishes huh? Y by satansteve	Aug 14th, 2005 06:18:58 PM
aquaman is aqualame. yes i said aqualame. that is how lame he is.
i know who would be perfect for aquaman... by satansteve	Aug 14th, 2005 06:22:56 PM
someone who could address how lame he is and embrace it...CHRIS ROCK! "when them crackers were handin out superpowers, u no why i got talkin 2 fishes? CUZ IM A BLACK MAN and no-one wants a black superman. a black man can steal ur stereo, he cant save ur life"
Didn't John Roberts do some pro boner work for Aquaman? by Fred	Aug 14th, 2005 06:23:33 PM

Fatso is hate speech? by WONKABAR	Aug 14th, 2005 06:31:28 PM
I guess Harry can can now file a lawsuit against half the people who post on AICN.
thanks a lot harry by ZTR421	Aug 14th, 2005 06:31:42 PM
I've got to side with the overly sensitive people. First the site posts a clip of the movie Rent and the talk back focuses on "why is this gay movie on this site?" Now Harry resorts to a slur about gays. The thing is, political correctness isn't about people being overly sensitive. It's about people respecting each other. The fact that many are offended when other people use the word fag should clue you in that it's not a joke to everyone.
Look by Ribbons	Aug 14th, 2005 06:31:49 PM
Don't presume to think you know that we're all "unchecked homophobes?" You wanna know a secret? I can't stand it when people say using the word fag in a derogatory connotation is no big deal. It is a big deal. But Harry's "joke" was not about Aquaman being gay, it was about himself being the character from "Entourage." That's why context in this particular situation is important, yet you pretend it's not. If you have a bone to pick with "Entourage" for writing the joke in the first place and want to make it known, that's understandable (even though 95% of sitcoms on television make homophobic slurs as well), but the most Harry can be accused of is lack of sensitivity. While not commendable in and of itself, it's a far cry from the charges of hatred against gays or pandering homophobia that some people are tossing around as a result. He's not a homophobe, I'm not a homophobe, and while I understand you don't like people using the word "fag," you're not going to solve that problem by dragging Harry through the coals. I'm sure seeing the term on the front page ensured you'd read the article and add your two cents, but why don't you check out the 'Superman Returns' article farther down the page? I'd appreciate some support against the genuine homophobia that pops up whenever Bryan Singer's name is mentioned. But I'm probably talking to myself as well. I can't wait 'til I get accused of being an "agent" homophobe. And yes, every single person who's making gay jokes is being an asshole.
Chardday, you Aquafuckbag by FistyMcAssHands	Aug 14th, 2005 07:02:45 PM
"The point has been made here already, but unless you boys can similarly sign off on AQUANIGGER, AQUAKIKE, or AQUAFATSO, say you're sorry and shut the fuck up." First, the context is the most important part of the entire story. Second, I can't believe you equated nigger and kike to fatso. In the gray area of derogatory terms, I'd venture to guess that nigger and kike are more toward the black end (pun intended like a motherfucker) and fatso is a little more gray--like my withered, unused genitalia. Finally, yes I would like to see any of those movies. Somebody already mentioned Chris Rock as Aquaman, I'd take that for Aquanigger (or C. Thomas Howell in an Aquaman meets Soul Man version). Aquakike would be good because we could have a guy who talks to fish, but only to say, "Does this water feel a little chilly to you? It's chilly to me. I'll see if I can find somebody to talk to about this." And Aquafatso would be great if Harry played the title character. I mean, nothing beats a shirtless fat man unless it's a shirtless fat man underwater. Watch the episode of Celebrity Fit Club season one when Ralphie May goes swimming for evidence of this. Long story short, quit being so sensitive. I've raped seven year-olds who cried less than you. http://thetoon.blogspot.com
Did any of u read Harry's post?!? by Reelheed	Aug 14th, 2005 07:11:29 PM
If so you would understand that "Aquafag" quote in the title. Oddly the only problem I have ever had with Aquaman is his shite costume. Orange and green? Really? OK dude...
James Cameron never makes anything! It's like he made Titani by Orionsangels	Aug 14th, 2005 07:14:29 PM
Now he makes these lame documentaries. just make a damn movie. I'm sick of hearing James Cameron is working on this and that and nothing ever gets made. Titanic is almost a decade old now and James Cameron hasn't made a new movie since, wtf! I guess he's enjoying the good life.
You, Sir, are a homophobe!!! by Tal111	Aug 14th, 2005 07:16:52 PM
There, arguement over-- I win!
jesus christ by bluebottle	Aug 14th, 2005 07:16:56 PM
you guys give everyone who's ever been associated with this site a bad name. "MY GOD! IT'S A CITY OF APES!"
are you kidding me? by beepbeep	Aug 14th, 2005 07:19:43 PM
to whoever said harry was explaining the title with an 'obscure reference'...its a fucking HBO series that even my parents watch. actually aquaman is more obscure to the public then the show entourage is.
Oh, and thanks for the education ZTR421!! by Tal111	Aug 14th, 2005 07:22:42 PM
Thank God we've got someone like you to explain political correctness to us! Say-that's a mighty high horse ya got there.
omg by adambalm	Aug 14th, 2005 07:36:39 PM
all u peeplez like bluebotlte r total fag noobs LOL 4 reel.
In context or not, it was poor form. by astronato	Aug 14th, 2005 07:42:39 PM
I don't watch Entourage but I understand that the Aquafag line is from the show and that Harry meant it in that context. I also think Harry is smart enough to know that by using that line he would be inviting all the numbskulls to spew their hatred. It seems to me like a cynical move on Harry's part to get some controversy going, especially when you read the original interview which seemed to me like Wahlberg was saying that he and Cameron were joking about making an Aquaman movie. If they were joking, where is the story? Is that what passes for a scoop? I am no defender of the gay lifestyle and have sometimes used the word fag in private, but then I don't run a website meant for the general public. This was either a dumb idea or simply meant to stir the shit. I am hoping it wasn't the latter because as much as you can like a person you've never met, I always thought Harry seemed like a good guy.
I thought Cameron was doing Allita: Battle Angel? Now we get thi by Windowlicker74	Aug 14th, 2005 07:48:25 PM
I mean,who is even remotely interested in an Aquaman movie??
Alita that is.. by Windowlicker74	Aug 14th, 2005 07:51:25 PM
BTW what is everybody blabbering about faggots??
re: "all u peeplez like bluebotlte r total fag noobs LOL 4 reel by BurlIvesLeftNut	Aug 14th, 2005 07:55:32 PM
When will the hate end? Can't we just embrace? Fags? Str8s? Americans? Canadians?
Cool people suck by astronato	Aug 14th, 2005 07:58:09 PM
I can't see it happening but if this somehow turns out to be true, James Cameron would be a fantastic choice to direct. After seeing Planet of the Apes I am not sure Marky Mark is right for the role of Arthur Curry (or any other for that matter). If they do make an Aquaman movie, please use the silver age model with two hands, short hair,and the orange and green fish skin outfit. Just like Alex Ross does in the new Justice comics, Cameron could show all these "cool" comic book fans (as if there is such a thing) just how wrong they are about Aquaman.
LOL by adambalm	Aug 14th, 2005 08:02:34 PM
LOL @ BurlIvesLeftNut. s0rry n00b but u wudd g3t pwn3d and tehn ud b cry1ng and id b all 'lat3rplanez n00b...'
Wait I think I can speak his lanugage: by BurlIvesLeftNut	Aug 14th, 2005 08:06:33 PM
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Seriously, guys... by bluebottle	Aug 14th, 2005 08:12:55 PM
EAT SHIT AND DIE.
Sadly, Until We Find A Cure For Gayness, This Type Of Thing Will by Captain Sulu	Aug 14th, 2005 08:12:58 PM
I think making fun of people who have to suffer with a disablity is really one of the worst things someone could do. If you want to make fun of people, go after the powerful, not the victims. Does it really elevate your stature to call someone a tard or a fag? Why not go to the cancer ward and mock the terminally ill?
lol itd be funny if by Krangelus	Aug 14th, 2005 08:13:05 PM
cameron used Natalie Portman & Adrian Grenier as his stars. Itd be awesome.
gayz are ruining the culture by adambalm	Aug 14th, 2005 08:19:24 PM
...At some point u just have to say enuff! Gay sitcoms, Gay makeover shows, Ellen Degenerate, st00pid gay pron which is done by total noobs who can't even hold the camera right and have gay ass music in the background... ::laterplanez::
To SPACEHUNTER3-D by J-Dizzle	Aug 14th, 2005 08:21:49 PM
Nope, that wasn't me. Sorry to disappoint you.
It's ok lando, your parents did a bad job when they raised y by Cameron1	Aug 14th, 2005 08:23:18 PM

What The Hell, Is It Sweeps Week On The Internet Or Something? by Diana Rules!	Aug 14th, 2005 08:28:44 PM
Cause that's the only explanation I can come up with for even posting this in the first place. Gotta get those hits up before setting the new banner ad rates.
F words by chardday	Aug 14th, 2005 08:31:33 PM

aww lando no need to get irate because I criticised you. by Cameron1	Aug 14th, 2005 08:31:48 PM
I was not referring to the use of the word homophobia. I was referring to you saying "I do not like homosexuals". That is why I said you had a poor upbringing. Nothing to be ashamed and I understand you harbour a lot of anger and hate for such reasons. It's ok we all know people like you and we sympathise. I'm sure you will overcome your numerous worrying issue soon.
i hope that aquaman comes out of the sea chest. by bluebottle	Aug 14th, 2005 08:32:29 PM
that would shut the whole lot of you up. "Aquaman is Gay" - DC COMICS
yap yap yap. by Cameron1	Aug 14th, 2005 08:45:33 PM
ok lando you are still barking and raving. Y'see disliking someone because of what gender they choose to fuck is one of the stupidest things to do in the world. Now I'm sure you have plenty of theories and maybe even some sort of "evidence" to back up your bullshit but sadly no intelligent, sane, well raised person think like that. You can be intolerant if you want lando, but spreading hate is sick, wrong and is definitely immoral. Supporting those who spread hate is also immoral. I want tolerance for people who don't spread or support hate. Anyone else can go fuck themselves and I'm happy to tell them that on the net on the phone or in person. Whine all you want lando, it's your forte. Such a shame though.
camoron by gazmannus	Aug 14th, 2005 08:49:05 PM
Who the fuck are you to decide what's right and wrong?It's people like you who deserve to be outcast and mocked you out-dated piece of shit.and btw, it does make you a bad person
sorry camoron by gazmannus	Aug 14th, 2005 08:50:15 PM
i meant to write landokissmy ass.apologies
"...and also the majority of male pedophiles are homosexuals..." by adambalm	Aug 14th, 2005 08:50:21 PM
LOL.
"i meant to write landokissmy ass.apologies" by adambalm	Aug 14th, 2005 08:51:05 PM
RFLMAO!@!!!!!
Well I decide for myself what is right and wrong. by Cameron1	Aug 14th, 2005 08:52:20 PM
So does lando, and so do you by the looks of it. Oh and I do know that it is wrong to hate gay people because it is irrational, stupid and causes pain to those who don't deserve it.
All Aquaman doubters and mainstream idiots, read here. by FuriousStyles	Aug 14th, 2005 08:52:41 PM
If you're one of the people who thinks Aquamn's only claim to fame is talking to fishes - this post is for you. You're the kind of person who has never read an Aquaman comic, so be honest with yourself, your perception of the character is based on common opinion or what you saw on Superfriends as a kid. Meaning, deep down, you know you should SHUT THE FUCK UP becuase you know nothing. Becuase you'll never read a comic I'll give you a few points so you don't look so ignorant from now on. Aquaman/Arthur Curry is the son of a man and a women from Atlantis (a mermaid just without the tail and bullshit) = interesting origin. Aquaman is the king of the underwater city of Atlantis = unique visual setting for the majority of the movie (in other words, fuck-all like Waterworld). Aquaman is a fuckin king = a king who would lead an army if necessary to protect his city. Aquaman doesn't talk to fishes dickheads - he telepathically communicates with, and can command ALL SEA LIFE. Sharks, Whales, Octupi, and even giant seashorses if the mood takes him = pretty fucking cool visuals never/rarely seen before in film. And as for the superhero stuff, Aquaman is strong as all shit, as stated earlier, has the endurance to withstand the depths of the ocean, swims fast as a muthaphukka, and carriers a big sharp as fuck trident to jam through your skull......................... .............now just incase you do want some credability to talk about Aquaman in the future, most of what I just posted up is actually summerised in issue #1 of Justice on sale now. Not only for the info, but for the fact that it gives some great examples of why Aquaman's costume is one of the greatest ever......................I wish we had Ain't It Cool talkbacks before the '89 Batamn film, so we could have heard you clowns talk about how gay Batman is, and would make a terrible film based on you only knowing the 60 TV show................so don't tell me how lame Aquaman is if you've never read an Aquaman comic.....suckas.............. .....Aquaman is perfect for a film experience we've never seen before, and I hope some Warners realises this before Marvel ruin our chance by making a subpar Sub-Mariner film.............
lol gazmannus. no probs. by Cameron1	Aug 14th, 2005 08:54:06 PM

Landoasskissian doesn't know how to use the word "semantics. by Some Dude	Aug 14th, 2005 08:58:09 PM
You are retarded. It is reflected in your opinion.
LAST! by Super Calimario	Aug 14th, 2005 09:04:05 PM
Maybe Harry could play the supervillain in the Aquaman movie! Than a week before filming starts, James cameron can drop out to film a documentary about something no one cares about and Warner Bros can replace him with Bret Ratner!
Fear of an Aquaman Planet! by astronato	Aug 14th, 2005 09:23:31 PM
Go ahead ThomasRock, tell 'em how it is!
it's aparent that Landoasskissian, due to his outspoken homo by BurlIvesLeftNut	Aug 14th, 2005 09:23:33 PM
Dude, every rural town in America has a glory hole you can go to in order to suck anonymous dick. No one will know it's you and once you get that throat yoghurt marinating your stomach, you will feel much more peaceful. Also, homophobia, despite its LITERAL meaning as "fearing homosexuals" is accepted as meaning loathing them also. The Greek word Bdelia means loath. If you want to start calling yourself homobdelic, more power to you, but you will just look like a more aggressive cocksheath because you actually make such a point of drawing a distinction. Do us all a favor, find the nearest dimpled rim... perhaps your Uncle's who is probably in bed next to you anyway, and juice it like a grapefruit. Then do the rest of the world a favor and drown yourself in said juices, you homophobic gentleman. Go ahead and come back with more lame homoerotic banter and puns that would make kindergartners think you are juvenile. I'll have none of that, because I accept who I am and don't have to play bully boy in order to get some hot cowpoke action. In fact, I am self-lubing even as I write this.
re: "It would be a subzero degree day in hell that you would sa by BurlIvesLeftNut	Aug 14th, 2005 09:30:14 PM
I am glad you admit you are going to hell.
Sly Stallone as THOR! Wahlbergs a Wigger by KongMonkey	Aug 14th, 2005 09:31:04 PM
I can see Marky Mark doing the Aqua Rap with Will Smith's Shark Tale character.
NO Aaron Eckhart should be Thor. by BurlIvesLeftNut	Aug 14th, 2005 09:34:46 PM
Search your a feelings. You know it to be a true.
No No it's Aqua-Lung by Jethro Tull you morons! by Regis Travolta	Aug 14th, 2005 09:37:08 PM
Aqualung - Sitting on a park bench eyeing little girls with bad intent. Snot running down his nose greasy fingers smearing shabby clothes. Drying in the cold sun Watching as the frilly panties run. Feeling like a dead duck spitting out pieces of his broken luck. Sun streaking cold an old man wandering lonely. Taking time the only way he knows. Leg hurting bad, as he bends to pick a dog-end he goes down to the bog and warms his feet. Feeling alone the army's up the rode salvation
keep going Lando... you're making me HOT by BurlIvesLeftNut	Aug 14th, 2005 09:39:34 PM
You described yourself with a greek god body in another thread. I am thinking that is not the case. I bet you are kind of fat with a shitload of weird body hair. That's cool, because closet queers like that are the fucking best, man. You'll do any humiliating thing I ask you because you will be so hot for my man-gin. FUCK. I am hot just thinking about. If you were here right now, I would hock a nice lugey on my toilet seat and smoke a cigarette as you beg on your face to lick it off. Keep screaming, closet boy... next I'll make you clip my toenails and eat the remnants. You'll lose it without even touching your waifish cock.
I Admit I Am Homophobic by Diana Rules!	Aug 14th, 2005 09:40:26 PM
I can't even walk past the dairy section without getting the willies. And there are rows and rows of all kinds of milk, all with the word "homo" in big letters. I've always been afraid of milk, it could be my religious upbringing, I don't know. If people want to drink it, I suppose that's their business, I just don't want to go into Wallmart and see it. Hell, I'd rather suck a dick than drink that shit.
I'm going to say what everyone here is afraid to... by adambalm	Aug 14th, 2005 09:47:46 PM
LandoAss is a fucking appeaser. Sure he seems to take a hard line, sure he talks a good game about teh LIEberal threat facing this countrey, but really pay attention to what hes saying, and he's not willing to do what needs to be done in the coming race war for the soul of this nation.
On a side note. Id fuck every single one of those Suicide Girls by SydBarretsMyDad	Aug 14th, 2005 09:47:49 PM

There are so many people who think only their opinion matters he by SydBarretsMyDad	Aug 14th, 2005 09:50:05 PM
Let me go fetch my American Flag blindfold first though.
Hey, Lando. by kintar0	Aug 14th, 2005 09:52:58 PM
Which state do you live in? Because if it's the same one I live in, I'd love to meet you somewhere and beat your ass for you. "You are just a big mouth online coward safely attacking people with differing views behing [sic] your monito [sic] safe in your mother's basement." This describes you perfectly. It's called "projecting."
oh man Lando... keep playing that self loathing log cabin Republ by BurlIvesLeftNut	Aug 14th, 2005 09:52:58 PM
It's HOT. I know what you want. You want me to make a little puddle of mud in my garden with my urine and rub your fat pimply face in it. You like that right? You'll be sucking up that pissy mud and calling me Jesus, and I'll be smoking a cigarette looking totally disinterested. Shit! Where are you? We need to do this soon.
"and I'll be smoking a cigarette looking totally disinterest by adambalm	Aug 14th, 2005 09:54:14 PM
Blowing a fag. It's called blowing a fag.
Lando, put your body where your mouth is. by bluebottle	Aug 14th, 2005 09:55:05 PM
You are such a liar. Show your "extremely muscular body" I dare you.
gamerawangi is a fag. by Samuel Steamer	Aug 14th, 2005 09:56:02 PM
It's a reference to a TV show line that was not derogitory. It seems that if you consider all the types of homosexuals we see on TV, that you are all neat, artisic, home decorating, kinki best friends with all the right witty comments. The Aquaman outfit was very "queer". It was funny. ( you big fruit) Gays call eachother fags. Two of my closest friends are gay and I feel fortunate that they are a part of my life so don't go acting like I'm a homophobe buddy. Sorry you've had it rough but you're really acting like a fag. I mean...you corrected my spelling in a talkback? Tsk tsk gamerawangi...How old are you anyway?
blubittl is hot for it too by BurlIvesLeftNut	Aug 14th, 2005 09:56:36 PM
We all are. Canadians are hot for your ass, Lando. They are all queer because its okay to marry each other up there.
lando, you are seriously disturbed and very stupid. by Cameron1	Aug 14th, 2005 09:57:34 PM
Ok I said I'm tolerant of certain people not all. I think being tolerant to everyone is a sure fire way to get fucked over. So calling me a hypocrite only makes you look stupid. You have a bitch about me making gratuitous assertions? Hahaha you are the one who thinks I wouldn't say anything to your face. I'd happily say it to you in front of everyone you know or just between you and me. I love how you act all moral and logical and yet still make a total twat out of yourself. You go on and on about gay people but you are the problem. A hatefilled hate spewing prick. My mothers basement is actually reserved for when your dad pays me 5 dollars to suck my cock. But hey he's there all the time so I can see why you think I might live there. As for you doing no harm, well what a strange statement to make. You support hate and ignorance and you think it does no harm? Hahaha. Yeh ok then dumbass. But anyway keep yapping lando it must keep you partially sane or something.
I'm already jerking off to Lando's body-builder physique by adambalm	Aug 14th, 2005 09:59:08 PM
We'll need a man of his caliber in the coming race war...
I want a SEX war by BurlIvesLeftNut	Aug 14th, 2005 09:59:48 PM
with leather and mangos and shit.
haha Lando you are such a noob to this queer thing by BurlIvesLeftNut	Aug 14th, 2005 10:05:29 PM
If you want to make sure he isn't jacking, you should ask that his cam zoom in on his crotch. If all you see is his face then you know--WAIT A MINUTE YOU CLEVER UNCLEFUCK! You knew that! You want him to stroke but if you don't see it makes you "not gay". I underestimated you experience in queer civ. Suck me once shame on you. Suck me twice! D'OH, you little gentleman!
Burl by adambalm	Aug 14th, 2005 10:06:18 PM
Alright. But first we have to get rid of the degenerates like jews and gypsies, and hipsters, and people who play Warcraft, and civil war reenactors, and those two giggly teenage bitches at Panera bread who wouldn't stop staring....
The Coming Race War by Diana Rules!	Aug 14th, 2005 10:08:56 PM
The key to winning this thing is to win the war of attrition. If we can find some way to stop the homos from reproducing as fast as us, we should be able to win this thing with superior numbers.
Leave the Jews man by BurlIvesLeftNut	Aug 14th, 2005 10:09:17 PM
They are HOT in the backseat. I agree to all the other terms, but we need some margeritas.
Diana, come on by BurlIvesLeftNut	Aug 14th, 2005 10:10:55 PM
I've already got the BSG baby machine set up. I am not sure what these tubes do, but one of them really gives you a nice tickle on your sphincter.
Lan-doh! by bluebottle	Aug 14th, 2005 10:11:25 PM
I'm not the one claiming to have some kind of god like physique. In fact, it seems like your whole argument is founded upon your the deluded idea you have that you are some kind of superman. if you're so proud of your homo-erotic body you should have no problems showing the entire tb. just link us to your pay site, or wherever the hell you show off your body.
Lan-doh! by bluebottle	Aug 14th, 2005 10:11:33 PM
I'm not the one claiming to have some kind of god like physique. In fact, it seems like your whole argument is founded upon your the deluded idea you have that you are some kind of superman. if you're so proud of your homo-erotic body you should have no problems showing the entire tb. just link us to your pay site, or wherever the hell you show off your body.
way to double post by BurlIvesLeftNut	Aug 14th, 2005 10:13:16 PM
Stinking pine fucker.
Fuck you by bluebottle	Aug 14th, 2005 10:14:54 PM
eat shit and die, fudgepacker.
only a degenerate race would make such a mistake... by adambalm	Aug 14th, 2005 10:15:12 PM
I smell a gypsy.
burn him by BurlIvesLeftNut	Aug 14th, 2005 10:17:17 PM
I kind of liked the tundra sucking bastard, but rules is rules.
I AM CANADIAN by bluebottle	Aug 14th, 2005 10:17:53 PM
DO YOU WANNA GO, OR SOMETHING ABUMDALM??!? DO YA WANNA GO?!
You know how bond films drag whenever they have an "exicting" un by Big Bad Clone	Aug 14th, 2005 10:18:26 PM
That would be the reason for Aquaman sucking. The film should be set mostly in or around water. It's shouldn't be some sort of "fish out of water" shit of he walking around NY. Also, Atlantis shouldn't be like underwater USA. FRankly, Aquaman would just suck due to the limited imagination of Hollywood. But if any crazy son of a bitch could make this anywhere near being cool, it'd be James Cameron. The man rarely makes any movies anymore, so I doubt him as much as I doubt QT.
We Should Put The Homos In Camps by Diana Rules!	Aug 14th, 2005 10:19:56 PM
Where they can have fires and go into the woods and stuff. Give them guitars so they can sing. This seems like the fairest solution. Then the straight people can tell their children to stay out of the forest. The smart ones can leave their laundry by the trees, then when they come back the next morning, all the clothes will be washed and folded nicely and smeel good.
Harry, making gay jokes won't make those feelings you get wh by Big Bad Clone	Aug 14th, 2005 10:22:50 PM

Awwe. by bluebottle	Aug 14th, 2005 10:24:01 PM
"Burl, you're so funny" "Lando, you're so hot with your extremely muscular physique" "oh Burl, can we please set aside our differences and rub our dinks together?" "yes lando, let's rub our dinks together" Why don't you two lovers get a room. Jesus.
re: "I forgot that on AICN you cannot have an opinion without g by BurlIvesLeftNut	Aug 14th, 2005 10:25:23 PM
You changed my mind Lando. Before I just thought you were a hate mongering solipsistic fathead. Now I know you just want me to impregnate your colon. Bravo.
GET A ROOM by bluebottle	Aug 14th, 2005 10:26:13 PM
seriously.
Oh my god by bluebottle	Aug 14th, 2005 10:30:07 PM
"No impregnation of my colon is happening anytime this century." translation: "Oh Burl, you're so funny, please come to michigan and touch touch my dink."
you have two choices bulbittl by BurlIvesLeftNut	Aug 14th, 2005 10:30:30 PM
You are looking at my back and there is fire all around me. You can see the sweat dripping off my back. You can run, or you can stay and face me. But when I turn around and look at you, it will be John McCane bad. So step up, or flee, but know this. If you step up, your ass, your nose, your child's nose, your car's exhaust--they will not be safe from this. The sound of my my ejaculate will coincide with your death rattle. Do you really want that?
I Just Want To Point Out That All This Gay Talk Really Has No Pl by Diana Rules!	Aug 14th, 2005 10:31:55 PM
You trolls really need to take that shit over to the Superman TB, so us Aquafag fans can talk about the movie.
re: "No impregnation of my colon is happening anytime this cent by BurlIvesLeftNut	Aug 14th, 2005 10:32:33 PM
More flirting. You say no, but like a good queer, I know you really mean, "Cut a hole in my spine and fuck it till I am a cripple." Grovel and it's done.
jesus, burl, i didn't say i wanted to watch. by bluebottle	Aug 14th, 2005 10:33:45 PM
cuz if that's what you're saying... you're right! I wanna see some hot man love between you and lando! Oh, YEAH! Why don't you boys "come" to canada, where i can marry you. I'm a minister in the church of life (got a printed out certificate and everything)
Hercules? by BurlIvesLeftNut	Aug 14th, 2005 10:34:21 PM
He's a scrawny green dude in a wheel chair. Fuck that! I've done lepers who are shit-hotter than you. Gross dude.
Adonis and Hercules combined? by bluebottle	Aug 14th, 2005 10:35:01 PM
What... Like your parents were gay men? is that what you're saying? cuz i think that's biologically impossible.
"you are one funny MF" by bluebottle	Aug 14th, 2005 10:38:17 PM
"Oh Burl... I'm so hot for you... I wish I hadn't said those nasty things earlier, because now... well, i think... maybe you and i... we have something... and maybe that something... might... you know... involve touching our dinks together"
What If We Gave The Gay Race Their Own Country? by Diana Rules!	Aug 14th, 2005 10:38:37 PM
I was thinking of calling it Fudgepakistan. That seems like it would make everyone happy.
whatever leperhead by BurlIvesLeftNut	Aug 14th, 2005 10:38:47 PM
Now that I have an idea what you look like, I am totally grossed the fuck out. bulbittl will take you though. I am sure he is tired of fucking his flannel. Seriously, though Lando. Stop flirting with me. It's kind of making me sick now.
Plagiostomous, you idiot by BurlIvesLeftNut	Aug 14th, 2005 10:41:12 PM
I am about spent... do you want a taste of the flesh-man-lolly too?
Bum Burglar by bluebottle	Aug 14th, 2005 10:44:25 PM
that's another euphemism for gay, you know.
AquaAsskissian by BurlIvesLeftNut	Aug 14th, 2005 10:45:37 PM
That's what they should call the movie... because he is so HOT for it.
Don't forget all the White Folk Names. by cookylamoo	Aug 14th, 2005 10:46:41 PM
Aquawop, Aquamick, Aquakraut, Aquafrog, Aqualimey and Aquadutchman, or just plain Aquahonkey.
Ever Wonder What Aquafag Uses A Dolphin's Blow Hole For? by Diana Rules!	Aug 14th, 2005 10:47:49 PM
It's the little details that make a movie for me. I really hope Cameron addresses this in the film.
Re: AquaAsskissian by bluebottle	Aug 14th, 2005 10:48:49 PM
Kick ass.
Anchorite, pasting in "Plagiostomus" from dictionary.com doesn&# by dr_dreadlocks	Aug 14th, 2005 10:50:18 PM
I hope you realize that.
Especially when he spells it wrong. by BurlIvesLeftNut	Aug 14th, 2005 10:51:43 PM
Douche.
Swartenegger Would Make A Good Aquafag by Diana Rules!	Aug 14th, 2005 10:54:10 PM
The puns alone would be worth it. After a rainbow colored fish swims by, he could say "There goes another Mahnta Gaaayy." As a pink eel cruises by "Careful, that's a MORgay eel." This shit writes itself.
obsessed with bums much, lando? by bluebottle	Aug 14th, 2005 10:57:43 PM
seriously... you just made every gay man in the world simultaneously cum.
What If All Atlanteans Are Gay? by Diana Rules!	Aug 14th, 2005 10:59:37 PM
That's why they have to come to shore to reproduce with the heteos. Gay people could just be Atlanteans kicked out of Atlantis. Using that premise, the Aquafag poster could read, "They come from the sea ... to mate!" Sort of like a Faginoids From The Deep angle. Or maybe that's where the gay agenda comes from, "They come from the sea ... to make you gay!" It's just unfuckingbelievable that Cameron isn't returning my calls.
Excuse Me, That Should've Been Homonoids From The Deep by Diana Rules!	Aug 14th, 2005 11:06:04 PM
I need a new secretary. For some reason my gay one abruptly quit about 10 minutes ago while he has typing this shit in. Temperamental whiny bitches.
Samuel Steamer: Gee, I'm so sorry for misunderstanding such by gamerawangi	Aug 14th, 2005 11:08:50 PM
Oh, my, well, shame on me for not recognizing a reference to a show I've never watched nor care about. And your gay friends are SOOOOOOO lucky to have such an upstanding example of humanity as a "friend". And listen, honey... Good spelling should count, no matter how old you are. Or are you one of those closeted age-queens??!!... Yeah, I'm a fag. And do your gay friends know you're a "straight" person who calls others "fag" as a derogatory and demeaning reference? Again, oh how lucky they are.... And it's "kinky" not "kinki" and "each other" not "eachother". HAW! Gotcha good!!! Neener-Neener-Nah-Nah!!!!!
Underwater Films Are Expensive To Produce, So There Needs To Be by Diana Rules!	Aug 14th, 2005 11:09:41 PM
I'm think roll out a new line of tortilla chips. Fagitos, the chip for gay men. Also some existing products too. Busch, preferred by most lesbians.
BurlIvesLeftNut, the hate ends now! by OurManInMontr	Aug 14th, 2005 11:10:22 PM
I'd left this talkback, but you clowns pulled me back in. Sometime before you got sloppy with Landoasskissian and dribbled your cum on his unworthy chin, you wrote: "When will the hate end? Can't we just embrace? Fags? Str8s? Americans? Canadians?" and I was slightly moved, honestly. Whether you were laughing or not, you were asking the right questions. I am Canadian and straight, but I know a Romanian gayboy, a Norwegian lesbian and a Tahitian pre-operation transvestite and they are all nice, perky, upstanding citizens. The only thing keeping our man in Pamplona in the closet is fear of the organization. Can't we all just get along? Keep the clever coming, you gay Canadian! Now, Landoasskissian, you sound like a hyperventilating kid behind a garage, eager to exchange weewee flashes with your li'l neighbor. You are mean and scary and you cry and say you're sorry afterwards like a wife beater. And seriously, man... Seriously, honest... um... man, I think you're gay.
BBBWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAA by JUSTICE41	Aug 14th, 2005 11:12:18 PM
HahahahahHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAA HAHAAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAAHAHAAH.... ...... BEST THREAD EVER! You guys are bored, right? Anyways for you guys saying homophobia only means fear of, uh, uh, uh. to quote From The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48: "Homophobia \hom`opho"bia\, n. A strong dislike or fear of homosexuals, especially to an unreasonable degree." And also" From WordNet (r) 2.0: homophobia n : prejudice against (fear or dislike of) homosexual people and homosexuality." Take note of the use of the term Dislike and Prejudice. Yep you guys have been schooled, now apologize and put the blame for all this vitriol on the real source. The edumacation system, your parents and old lardass Harry. by the by Aqua-fat? Nope. Fat floats too well.
Hopefully If The Film Does Well, We'll Get To See The Sequel by Diana Rules!	Aug 14th, 2005 11:15:00 PM
I think they should leave Aguafag open for a sequel, I'd hate to see a Philadelphia type ending just to get this picture an oscar.
"Aguaf@g"???? by gamerawangi	Aug 15th, 2005 12:39:19 AM
Hey Harry, So that's your lame attempt to cover up your insult, intentional or not, to your queer readers???!! Gosh, oh, golly, thanks... So sorry not all of us watch the same crappy, overrated tv shows that you do. But hey, you got people steamed up enough, on both sides of the issue, to actually pay attention to your website for a day. If you're so desparate for attention, and need to increase the hits to your ever-increasingly-lame website, why don't you just scrawl the words "Soy Bomb" on your tummy and prance about during a musical number on the Emmys? Hey, Ellen "Degenerate" will be hosting again, so you can once more rile up the straight and queer sides who read your website. Thanks for the sour persimmons, cousin... Still waiting for the apology to us non-Entourage-watching-homos.. .
I wanna see some hot Landoasskissian on hainesrs action. by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 15th, 2005 12:39:27 AM
They're so obviously hot for each other. Come on out of the closet guys! Love each other like men. I'll take pictures.
Asskiss guy by OurManInMontr	Aug 15th, 2005 12:45:33 AM
Soooooooooooooooooooo, you're into cut guys? Careful, my young, unblossomed gay friend (I just know you're gonna spit back something like "I AM NOT YOUR FRIEND! PHOBIA MEANS I FEAR SOMETHING! I FEAR NOTHING!), your last few posts reveal you as quite the go-to guy on S/M lingo. You naughty boy, you.
"Aquaf@g" is NOT acceptable! by scottishguy	Aug 15th, 2005 12:51:42 AM
This site has now reached an all time low. The use of "Aquafag" is not acceptable in any way. Ok so it may be a quote from a TV show, but it is not a quote which is obvious to most people. It was also shown on a subscription channel which a lot of people may not watch. Everyone knows that there is a huge amount of unacceptable gay bashing on this site - it sickens me in everyway. The administators will also know this, and they shouldn't encourage it by quoting a very anti-gay slur. Fag is just not an acceptable word, the terms of the talkback state "...and hate speech are all fodder for deletion". Well there are many posts in this thread that must be deleted now. It's a shame these immature hateful people hide behind the internet as some deserve a good smack in the mouth for their rudeness. Interstingly enough most of these vile individuals are Americans, wouldn't surprise me if they were also ugly and have never been laid. The subject didn't even need a thread anyway as it's obvious James Cameron or Mark Whalberg wouldn't make an Aquaman movie.
If a movie called 'Aquafag' ever got made, by OurManInMontr	Aug 15th, 2005 12:59:43 AM
"Coming Next Summer" would be enough of a tagline.
The "@" is the funniest thing on this site EVER!!! by DerLanghaarige	Aug 15th, 2005 01:23:17 AM

by scottishguy	Aug 15th, 2005 01:27:00 AM
well post a pic of yourself and provide evidence of the last time you got laid then. Yes I like having sex with men (or more specifically my boyfriend), and the problem with that is???
HA what a bunch of sensitive little QUEERS by Rcamacho2278	Aug 15th, 2005 01:33:16 AM
You can make fun of dead people, you can rip on 9/11 . but god forbid you make fun of FAGS. HEY, its not our fault you flamers run around announcing your sexual preference. I don't go around announcing I love sex with titties. so why should I put up with you dumbasses . HOMOs are not a race..they are a sexual preference, and in term deserve to be made fun of
I Wonder If Cartoon Network Would Consider Aquafag Hunger Force? by Diana Rules!	Aug 15th, 2005 01:49:53 AM
That might be a good way to test the character bofore going straight (so to speak) to the big screen. I think the tension between Shake and Aquafag would be hilarious.
"Please don't be fuckin' mean to me!" - Diggler by sevadro	Aug 15th, 2005 02:19:41 AM
Marky-Mark can do it! I realize that I'm fucked up right now, but for some reason I really like this idea. Go forth and be sucessful. One note - On costume design - Lovecraft. "You're a loser! What are you gonna do?" - Aquaman's Mom "I dunno. Maybe I'll swim where you can never find me!" - Aquaman
Just Judging By The Number Of Posts, It Looks Like There's M by Diana Rules!	Aug 15th, 2005 02:52:28 AM
I wonder why that is. Does Marky Mark really have that big a following? I never would've guessed. Perhaps the Supeman folks should consider adding some gay elements to that film, I wonder if that's even being discussed anywhere.
if the term "aquaf@g" is offensive... by Bens_Hog	Aug 15th, 2005 02:56:37 AM
How about "Water_Nigger" ?
Rcamacho2278 - "I don't go around announcing I love sex with by Boxclocke	Aug 15th, 2005 03:21:06 AM
You just did. Regardless of anything else, this dumbassery negates the rest of your post.
Oh, and Harry... by Boxclocke	Aug 15th, 2005 03:45:48 AM
First, let me say that I am not one of those folks who haunt the Talkbacks with the sole intent of bashing you and the site, and I've never posted anything negative about you or your staff before... but that was just a really bad choice. I, too, am from Texas, and that word gets thrown around a lot here. It doesn't bother me much, but it does make me think less of the person saying it. So to see a slur like that in the title to an article that was nothing more than a link to SOMEONE ELSE'S article about a COMPLETELY UNFOUNDED RUMOUR? People say "we should do such-and-such movie" the same way they say "we should do lunch." And how many movies was Cameron rumored to direct since Titanic? About twelve. And how many has he done? Zero, unless you count that documentary "Aliens of the Terminator: True Lies of the Titanic." This Aquaman movie will never come to fruition. It isn't news. But what will be will be you, as head of this website, using that word in the title of an article which appears on the front page of this site that, according to the legal stuff at the bottom, is
This place is scary....... by The True Priapic	Aug 15th, 2005 03:52:00 AM
..what the fuck?Although the guy saying all queers should be sent to a camp doesnt seem to realize all queers ARE camp.Is Aquaman gay?Certainly,Bruce Wayne with his violence fetish and black kinkiness presumably rams it up his girls ass.Clark Kent pretends to be one person to his girlfriend but beneath,like angora wearing ed wood,he hides a SECRET!Aquaman still has a seventies beard and had his hand cut off.A known felonie that results in hands being cut of is thievery.Turd Burglary!Wonder Woman has never ever had a fella.The Flash.Runs at high speeds to avoid capture on CCTVs after the now legendary uprise in anal rapes in the DC mini-series ,"It wasn't me,I wasn't there!" by Roy Thomas.Robin-nuff said.Hawkman wears a feathery neck piece i.e.a boa,and Martian Man Hunter?Sheesh,2am around Times Square is his time o' night!Man,the DC universe is a truly diverse cross section of...er...homosexuals,lesbians ,kiddie fiddlers and interplanetary sexual-fuck ups.No wonder they live on earth!Krypton and Mars are just less pc and more right wing!!Sheesh...
"Just When You Thought It Was Safe To Go Back In The Water ..." by Diana Rules!	Aug 15th, 2005 03:56:56 AM
I thing the trailer should use the song The Bitch is Back.
Anyone name an Aquaman villain? by The True Priapic	Aug 15th, 2005 04:09:58 AM
Fucked if I can!How about "Great White",a supersized musclular white supremisist of the deep!Or...Limpet,a sidekick that just wont leave Aquaman alone!Or...Sperm Whale....er..I guess that one belongs on THIS talkback.ER...or...The Orca..a group of muscular gays..er,guys..who are both black AND white and roam the ocean looking for revenge on Dumbledore while nibbling on John Dereks ex-wives legs.Or....The Crabs?Guess that ones self explanitory.Aquagirl was probably fucking around again.Guess that explains that stink of fish...
Re: DarkHawke by s00p3rm4n	Aug 15th, 2005 04:20:57 AM
Darling, if the Left could eat itself, it would never leave home. Harry, this headline was almost as distasteful as asparagus cum. Almost. If you were gay, you'd know. No, but seriously, putting the "@" symbol just makes it look trendier. Just because they retitled it "swimfan@" didn't make me any less convinced it was an awful piece of shit. Diana Rules, BirlIvesLeftNut, adambalm... you are lovely, lovely people, and you all have a place in my heine. I'm getting a landing strip installed on Tuesday so I don't have a "Greek airliner" type situation arise in and around my loins... like the last time I fell in love with people on the internets. For those in the know... ))((
re: True Priapic by s00p3rm4n	Aug 15th, 2005 04:27:21 AM
Aquaman's only real enemy is total insignificance.
Could you eat 'im? by The True Priapic	Aug 15th, 2005 04:55:27 AM
Betcha Supes would just luv to eat him all up,he's soo cute!With a little salt and vinegar...
What the fuck is the point of replacing an A with a @? by I Dunno	Aug 15th, 2005 04:59:46 AM
I don't get that.
I don't know which people are more annoying... by DocPazuzu	Aug 15th, 2005 05:09:17 AM
...the cretinous homophobes in the talkback or the indignant, backpedalling pontificators who are trying to mask the fact that they didn't pick up on the Entourage reference. You both suck (especially you homophobes - at least in your most private fantasies).
I didnt get the entourage reference by scottishguy	Aug 15th, 2005 05:27:48 AM
dont go saying that people should automatically get the Entourage reference. It's not a show I have ever seen and I do tend to be into most stuff this site covers. I havent even heard of Entourage. I may be Scottish but I spent 5 months in the States last year and 4 months this year. The word f@g is the equivalent of "nigger". It is one of the most hateful terms around yet can still be used only only in the right situation. yeah maybe it is in the TV show, but it isn't appropriate to use it on a site well known for the immaturity of the people who talkback here. I have never been called a fag in my life (to my face) and probably never will, but for those that have they will know how evil and outright nasty and hurtful it is. The word has no place in any civilised country.
For your information... by Man-in-the-Box	Aug 15th, 2005 05:39:56 AM
I am the creator of the DEATHFRIZBEE, and I can't even use it FUCK, THIS SUCKS!!!!!
"dont go saying that people should automatically get the Entoura by DocPazuzu	Aug 15th, 2005 05:48:50 AM
I didn't. However, asking someone to apologize for the fact that YOUR American pop culture references are lacking is moronic in the extreme. I find it ironic that a Scottish guy can be both offended by a decidedly American term (it's not "Aquapoof", after all), yet at the same time blame someone else for his own lack of knowledge of an American TV show. You can't have it both ways and retain any credibility. Have you seen the original The Bad News Bears? No? Then why aren't you over at the Mori DVD talkback bitching about the fact that Mori mentioned the quote
I kinda dug Waterworld... by L. Duderino	Aug 15th, 2005 06:03:56 AM
...is that enough reason for the pc-people here to forget their anger and call me a fag? As far as Aquaman is concerned, I don't know shit from Shynola.
Aquaman villains - by squidman	Aug 15th, 2005 06:13:28 AM
Okay, it's a challenge, but here goes: - Black Manta - Fisherman - Ocean Master - uhhhh ... Clam Man?
Harry was the entourage by Diazanon	Aug 15th, 2005 06:17:57 AM
Interesting. Which 5 actors played you? Silence. No? Yeah, I agree.
Clam Man?Fisherman?..yer kiddin' me?Oh and to DocPazuzu,in s by The True Priapic	Aug 15th, 2005 06:49:41 AM
ach,hey jings!Ma wee bonnie heather.gerrusadrennk,eh..a wey drenkey?ah,jings....
to DocP by scottishguy	Aug 15th, 2005 07:21:26 AM
I have every right to find the word "fag" offensive since I spend a lot of time in the States, in fact probably 50% of the past 3 year I have lived there, I have a lot of gay friends there, have had partners there and I'm active on the gay community there.
I'd rather see "MERMAID MAN & BARNICLE BOY-THE MOVIE" by DANZIGG	Aug 15th, 2005 07:22:02 AM
God I love that Spongebob squarepants episode.
I'm sure that scottishguy was trying to be ironic... by I Dunno	Aug 15th, 2005 07:28:39 AM
When he indignantly cied about predjudice against gays in one sentence, then makes a prejudiced statement about all Americans in the next. That had to be a joke. Otherwise, that would make him a huge hypocritical douchebag. Who loves teh cock. Not that there's anything wrong with that last part.
scottishguy by DocPazuzu	Aug 15th, 2005 07:47:36 AM
You're obviously missing the point. If Harry had used the term "fag" in anything other than the tongue-in-cheek referential manner he did, than you'd be perfectly justified in your complaints. However, getting indignant and blaming someone else for the fact that your lacking knowledge of an aspect of American pop culture caused YOU to misinterpret something is utterly ridiculous. Harry did nothing wrong.
listen guys... by viceland	Aug 15th, 2005 07:48:11 AM
homosexuals are gay
Actually..I think Scots call Gays 'Fairies'. by The True Priapic	Aug 15th, 2005 07:48:54 AM
Which is rich coming from men who wear skirts.And cannae kick a foo'e ball,eh pal?Ye doss cun'!Actually,in all honesty I don't think Scotland has homosexuals.Can you imagine the fey accent?They'd get kicked to death at school.In Scotland they still make the kids go down chimneys and still use buckets to shit in,ye ken?Ye wouldnae believe i',even wee kids use scrubbin' bairds tae wash thear haer.I' th' senk!!An I tell ye they drenk frum an urly aege.Whesky n' a wee dram of...ergh,whesky!Ahm loosshhin' the wull tae tyup...aye,tha' a wee bi' bettu...seeyamora.
AQUAFUCK YOU ALL!! hehehehehE by Redbox	Aug 15th, 2005 07:51:19 AM
Personally, I glad to see a larger, more vocal Gay voice has emerged on this site that's usually filled with pre-pubescent spank talk. This site is sometimes extremely sexist and homophobic and disproportionably sexually graphic in comparison to the actually sexual experience of many of its writers. So Cheers! Viva la Difference! That being said, Fuck all you silly ass bitches who clicked to see a story that has such a direct reference to a show, you don't watch. Fuck you for defining the terms of acceptability with the arrogance of a Wasp at a "Cinco de Mayo" party whose complaining because there's fruit in his wine. Harry's reference was completely reflective of that show's subject matter and showed no malice or hatred, but even if it had, how should one respond to a slur like AquaFag? It's pretty much a self punishing statement when said in earnest, seething hatred. That's what made it so funny. The Character in the show, a geekish manchild who's never getting laid is saying Aquafag! Nothing's funnier than a never sexed adult boy calling someone gay because his only sexually preference is between which venues he chooses his porn from. I guaranty that if Bruce Campbell or some other Geek appointed God, knocked on their basement doors, many a manboy might think twice about sexuality and boy crushes. So chill out, and please, while both being Black and being Gay are roads of much oppression, stop comparing them. They are not the same. I hate it when rich, white, educated Gay men tell me that they are just as oppressed as blacks in this country. The truth is that oppression exists not on a line between victim and tormentor, but on a grid in which we all hold some part of the burden of each role, depending on Race, Sexuality and Gender, Religion, Education and especially Class. Everyone in this Grid hold some power over someone and yet too many people care only about how their rights are diminished. So how about people stop, think and expect the best before attacking the worst. CHEERS!
gee ush a kish,bye thu waey.... by The True Priapic	Aug 15th, 2005 08:11:23 AM
...wherus ma Broons annual and ma OOr Wullie t-shurut?ya bashtish ya....ah,geddafaoookooot....ge e ush akish,ach...c'mun,gee ush a wee kish.fer yur unca priupsh...hic...yesh fukush...yush fucshin fayurish..yush pooftush..thu lotsh uv yush...?!?
LANDO ASSKISS...... by banthafodderUK	Aug 15th, 2005 08:41:39 AM
'Pro bodubuilder physique"???? Hahahaha- you cunt!!! (don't all pro bodybuilder's have the fucking TINIEST knobs ever due to all the crap they inject themselves with??) HOPE YOU GOT A ZOOM ON YOUR WEBCAM needledick
Scots aren't gay, the main Highlanders are Scottish. by I Dunno	Aug 15th, 2005 08:43:18 AM
And they....well wait. They have long hair, can't have kids, have a type of gaydar when they're around one of their own and giving and taking head is a priority in their lives. All to a soundtrack by Queen. Well shit, there goes that theory.
who doesn't have hbo? its 2005 by ZO	Aug 15th, 2005 08:45:09 AM
get a job and a life and live a little
The world may actually be able to survive NOT having an Aquaman by The True Priapic	Aug 15th, 2005 08:46:38 AM
Piss off back to Atlantis,you gilled freak."In a WERRRRLLLLUUDD....."Nah,I can live without Aqua twat.
Scottish people are not ALWAYS drunk. by The True Priapic	Aug 15th, 2005 08:49:38 AM
Just most of the time.
Fighting Bigotry is like trying to keep a Basketball Underwater by cookylamoo	Aug 15th, 2005 08:53:18 AM
All you get is resentment from all the good people who love feeling that they're better (and more masculine) than anyone else. I can see a time coming when "liberal judges" will no longer prosecute hate crimes or crimes against women. We'll drop straight back into the nineteenth century.
gamerawangi, you are funny. by Samuel Steamer	Aug 15th, 2005 09:09:10 AM
I think we both understand eachother.
All Bigots Are Merely Insecure and Self-Loathing (And Probably A by ZombieSolutions	Aug 15th, 2005 09:13:37 AM
its as old as time. racists hate the races they hate because they secretly want to be them. homophobics are similar in that they hate homosexuals because they secretly ARE GAY and can't deal with it. the catholic church is the greatest example of this -- an organization created by and maintained by a group of closeted homosexual pedophile rapists who pretend to hate homosexuals. if they were allowed to have sex with men without guilt, they wouldn't be compelled to rape children for Jeebus. if you believe in God -- he loves you whether you are gay or straight and he wants you to be happy. all forms of ADULT CONSENSUAL sex and sexuality is good and natural. anyone who feels differently is not only profoundly wrong, they are profoundly sad.
Remember kids... not liking or supporting pedophiles... by Johnno	Aug 15th, 2005 09:20:32 AM
... is Discrimination! Support your local NAMBLA! Stop the hate and pedophobia! Free rights and tolerance for Everybody! Oh Brave New World!
The Catholic Church IS WORSE Than NAMBLA by ZombieSolutions	Aug 15th, 2005 09:33:33 AM
NAMBLA is serioulsy fucked up, but at least they are HONEST about their intentions. The Catholic Church, on the other hand, pretends to by "holy" when it is, in fact, the WORLD'S LARGEST PEDOPHILE RAPE CULT. oh my gosh! WWJD?!?!
by scottishguy	Aug 15th, 2005 09:39:21 AM
"Interstingly enough most of these vile individuals are Americans, wouldn't surprise me if they were also ugly and have never been laid." This was not an attack on anyone apart from those who have been gay-bashing on this site. But it is a fact that Americans are the ones who do most gay-bashing on the internet (or at least the sites I visit). And those who are attempting to take the piss out of my Scottishness - well grow up! I dont care, we have officially the sexiest accent in the world, I get laid more times in USA because of the accent, our country is well respected everywhere, we also treat gays equally and with respect and allow civil unions, and believe me - the kilts the best thing to wear the gaurantee getting laid too. He he go on you fools try and take the piss, but in the end you only make urselves look like idiots.
Llandoasskissian still doesn't know how to use the word "sem by Some Dude	Aug 15th, 2005 09:48:19 AM
Funny retard. That you had to consult the dictionary to check shows just what shaky ground you are on. Just because you hear radio hosts say insipid things like "Homophobia is semantics" doesn't make it a meaningful sentence. The word is not used that way, except by retards. Think it through. EVERYTHING is semantics. Although I don't think that homophobia actually means "terror induced by gays" it does seem an apt decsription for what ails you. What's even funnier is your insistence that the etymological break-down of a word must equate with its current meaning. Let me ask you, do hemophiliacs REALLY love blood? Or is that more "semantics"? Ha, ha, Landoasskissian, I am laughing at you.
yeah this is true... by scottishguy	Aug 15th, 2005 09:50:34 AM
""Scottish people are not ALWAYS drunk. by The True Priapic August 15th, 2005 08:49:38 AM CST Just most of the time."" Can't argue with that, Edinburgh has more pubs per rata of the population than anywhere else apart from Dublin I believe. We do like to drink, socialise, have fun etc and we don't even need therapy about it either. Helps us deal with the crap weather. Who cares - we don't.
It's official! by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 15th, 2005 09:52:15 AM
Anybody who actually says that there's nothing wrong with Harry using the word "Aquafag" is a complete douchbag. But, you republicans probably know that about yourselves already. Ronald Reagan is a dead asshole!
Zombie Solutions: Agreed on the church. by Some Dude	Aug 15th, 2005 09:53:11 AM
Funny how NAMBLA goes out of its way to warn the rest of the world of its bizarre ideology in its own name and they're the bad guys, while the church gets away with murder, er, child rape by claiming moral superiority. Fuck those assholes.
Scottishguy,your accent gets you laid more in the USA??But thats by The True Priapic	Aug 15th, 2005 09:59:38 AM
My folks are from Paisley,so Im taking the piss outta mesel' so don't get too offended by the scots bashing.I suppose that fits into the 'hate what you are' argument.(although I dont hate,Im just takin' the piss....which,sir..if indeed thow art a scot..you will know the Glaswegian ability for piss taking is not only overpowering but neverending!!Presumably thats where all the fighting comes from.Nahhh...thats just cos they're pissed.I must admit he idea of two men dressed in full scottish atire,kilts,smart jackets,sporrun et al going at it like man and horse makes me a)either laugh my fucking hat off or b)feel Scotland heritage has been terribly abused!!What would Huewy McPhee say? "AaWwwwwww,Do-nald,where's me trooosers!"
Jar Jar 4 Prez by DocPazuzu	Aug 15th, 2005 10:01:15 AM
Congratulations. You and indignant friends are this month's winners of the AICN "Mark Twain You Fucking Moron!" Talkback Award. Since you didn't understand the Entourage reference, I'm not really expecting you to understand the origin of the award.
Exactly, Some Dude by ZombieSolutions	Aug 15th, 2005 10:05:54 AM
the Catholic Church engages in ritualistic child rape in the name of Jeebus! and tehy get away with it! they prey on the weak and superstious with their fear-mongering, shame-baiting, hateful ways, and then they RAPE OUR CHILDREN?! and they are allowed to continue to exist because... WHY? the Church should be immediately disbanded, the criminals imprisoned, and their VAST WEALTH distributed amongst their many psychological and physical victims. stop the madness. end the lies. close the barred door on the Nazi Pope and his massive phalanx of child rapists. done and done.
You know, just because the thought of fucking a goat disgusts me by I Dunno	Aug 15th, 2005 10:09:39 AM
...well, not sober anyway. Flaming homosexuals are funny. Guys having hairy ass sex with each other are funny. I don't condone violence against gays. I don't think gay people are going to hell. But when I see a grown man in a feather boa and assless chaps, I laugh at them. They're asking me to laugh at them. They're BEGGING me to laugh at them. So lighten the hell up. Again, if you can take a dick, you can take a joke.
I Dunno by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 15th, 2005 10:17:26 AM
Your mother doesn't seem to have the same reservations about fucking goats according to the video that I made of her. You should see her suck that goat-dong!
...and the Pope's a nazi. by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 15th, 2005 10:20:39 AM
Deal with it, you brainwashed dittoheads.
Still crying about the Church Abuse Scandal eh Zombie? by Johnno	Aug 15th, 2005 10:22:59 AM
I guess your username does suit you, you sound like the repetitive undead, "Uhhhh CHUuuuRCh...EVEEEELILLL... arrrgh... Neeed Braaains..." I already discussed this with you but you show your colours because you never seem to learn, hell you're more dogmatic to your own delusions that I wish half of those calling themselves Catholic could be the same regarding what they're supposed to believe. As I showed you the last time, the Church didn't get away with anything... remember those lawsuits and how we lost lotsa money? Yeah we 'got' away with it alright... and as far as those retarded accusations about a coverup by the pope, it was nothing but bullshit and I demonstrated that! But oh wait... the Pope is a Nazi! How could I forget that one? Twat! But why reiterate the old, if you didn't pay attention then, you're not going to now. But let me tell you how the abuse came about, it was thanks to liberal idiots who wanted less screenings on priests and to allow homosexuals to enter the seminaries. People warned the Church back then that this was an extremely bad idea, and the sex abuse scandal is the culmination of such decisions. Thankfully now, under Ratzinger, now Benedict, the inquisition can finally do its job after this scandal and purge the ranks of such people and raise the standard of who can become priests and bar homosexuals and any other sexual deviants, hell, anyone having trouble keeping their hands off their dick period! And for everyones educational purposes, here's what the Catholic Church believes and has been consistent with... recall how the Catholic Church is against these things: abortion, contraception, masturbation and homosexuality. Now think you're playing a video game, I suppose you ZombieSolutions, prefer something like Resident Evil, So Mr. Zombie, find the solution, it unlocks the door and you can proceed!!! What do all those things the Catholic Church opposes have in common? Think think! "Uhhhh... thiiiinkkk... noooo braiiiinsss" Okay okay I'll tell you... the one things all these things have in common is... they ALL DO NOT ALLOW A NEW LIFE TO BE BROUGHT INTO THE WORLD!!! Abortion kills the child in the womb, Contraception attempts to prevent conception, masturbation doesn't do anything when there is nowhere for the sperm to go, and homosexuality is much like masturbation and contraception combined and I don't think I need to go into that in detail. The Church believes the sexual act is first and foremost for procreation. So in a way homosexuals are really no different than heterosexual couples who use contraception or have anal sex, there's 'equality' for you, homosexuals are nothing special or different in that one fact that no procreation is possible. That is ALL folks! So any heterosexuals that use contraception have no real argument when it comes to telling homosexuals that whatever they are doing is wrong, if the sexual act is just fun and games then it doesn't matter whether you're with the same sex, by yourself, or in a barnyard as far as the Church's teachings are concerned. If you don't like it... TOUGH SHIT! Leave! If you're not with us, then stay the fuck out! We'll both be happy! Hope you learn and retain something this time!
This gay thing is hilarious. by dr_dreadlocks	Aug 15th, 2005 10:23:25 AM
Pink State Vs. Navy Blue State... Although you could argue that both are, in fact, gay. This is silly, let's all dance in too-too's.
NAMBLA Is F*cked, Insane and Evil, Of Course, BUT, I'll One by ZombieSolutions	Aug 15th, 2005 10:25:24 AM
keep in mind that i'm not knockin Jesus as a holy figure. i like em the words he say. but the Catholic Church has murdered, raped, and tortured more people in Christ's name than ANY organization in human history (Crusades, Spanish Inquisition, et al). perhaps the Third Reich was worse, but remember, the Catholic Church supported the Third Reich! shit, the New Pope was an actual NAZI! again, all props and respect to Jesus, but, this group of child raping wackos is just sick and depraved. NAMBLA is too, but they don't pretend to be anything other than what they are -- sicko pedo-pervs. (oh, and that episode of SOUTH PARK was HILARIOUS!!! so was their episode about the Catholic Church with the child rape and the giant spider?)
Whether or not my mother blows goats is not the issue, Jar Jar 4 by I Dunno	Aug 15th, 2005 10:26:55 AM
And how's grade school working out for you?
DocPazuzu by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 15th, 2005 10:27:51 AM
You're the winner of the "blustering-republican-asshole -of-the-minute-award." Which also makes you the winner of the "not-special-at-all-award" here at AICN. Stop trying to convince people that you can read by mentioning Mark Twain... We know you only like him because he used the word "Nigger" in his books. The funniest part of this whole thing is that people who are watching "Entourage" are gay-bashers. Self-hate much? You might as well watch Will & Grace.
"masturbation doesn't do anything when there is nowhere for by DocPazuzu	Aug 15th, 2005 10:27:59 AM
Holy shit, you're truly insane. Welcome to the year 1340.
Okay Johnno, We Get It -- PEDOPHILE RAPE and NAZISM Is Okay As L by ZombieSolutions	Aug 15th, 2005 10:30:32 AM
ouch. so as soon as NAMBLA gets baptized, everything will be AOK in the funhouse fever-dream nightmare world of insanity, child rape, and death that is the Catholic Church. hypocrisy, much? god, i feel sorry for you.
Grade school is working out great, I Dunno... by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 15th, 2005 10:30:38 AM
I'm already smarter than you.
Johnno, I hope you are right by BurlIvesLeftNut	Aug 15th, 2005 10:32:06 AM
I hope they purge the gays from the Catholic church AND I hope they make it impossible for gays to become priests. Because if those two things happen, the Catholic church will be left with about 200 people. Amen brother. PREACH IT.
"blustering-republican-asshole-o f-the-minute-award." by DocPazuzu	Aug 15th, 2005 10:33:18 AM
If I were a Republican I might actually have been offended by that. Or indeed if I thought for even a second that that congealed blob of cold oatmeal in your head was capable of a coherent and informed thought. And, as I surmised, you didn't pick up on the origin of your shiny award - much to my ongoing amusement.
What about nocturnal emmisions? by I Dunno	Aug 15th, 2005 10:34:55 AM
That's a waste of sperm too. Is that one God's fault, like males who are born infertile? I like playing both sides of this gay fence. Don't get any ideas, Andy Dick, if you're reading this. I just meant that neither side knows what the fuck they're talking about. Oh, and Aquaman is teh ghey.
Much as I think Cameron's overrated... by Childe Roland	Aug 15th, 2005 10:36:46 AM
...this movie would actually be a perfect fit for him. He could work out his undersea fetish and deliver some spectacular action sequences at the same time. And Wahlberg might not be the worst choice for the role. As for the fag thing, I don't know what's funnier: the way some folks reacted all upset and offended to a recycled joke or the way some other folks seized on it as an opportunity to say that genuine hate speech is okay. And the funniest thing typed in this talkback so far? "It either works both ways or not at all," by Landoasskissian, avid gay basher and known homophobe. A little bi-curious, are we, Lando? That's okay. Just oil up that bodybuilder's physique of yours and keep reaching for that rainbow.
I Can't Believe It's Not Republican! by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 15th, 2005 10:39:28 AM
Sorry, DocPazuzu... I just assumed you were a republican because you're so vocal about being an asshole. Usually people who are so arrogant about their ignorance are republicans. You've got just the right combo of arrogance/ignorance to be evil... Don't sell yourself short!
If Jar Jar and Zombie Hate The Pope, That Means They Secretly Wa by Diana Rules!	Aug 15th, 2005 10:41:17 AM
I'm just saying.
Jar Jar and Zombie Also Secretly Want To Be Republicans by Diana Rules!	Aug 15th, 2005 10:42:36 AM
Or have sex with them.
"I Can't Believe It's Not Republican!" by DocPazuzu	Aug 15th, 2005 10:46:29 AM
I'll give you credit for that line, because it was actually pretty fucking funny. Even a broken clock tells the time correctly twice a day. However, You're still an obnoxious, one-dimensional cretin.
"Usually people who are so arrogant about their ignorance are re by Diana Rules!	Aug 15th, 2005 10:49:21 AM
Zombie and Jar Jar are Republicans and want to have sex with themselves.
But, Clearly Homosexuality Is Natural, Anchorite... by ZombieSolutions	Aug 15th, 2005 10:49:22 AM
people are born that way; they don't chose to be gay. saying that you have gay friends but don't accept their style would be the same as saying, "i have lots of [ethnic minority] friends, but i don't think they should have equal rights with white people." you have to understand this. i'm not saying go out and get gay, cause clearly you're not. i also don't sense hate from you, just... intolerance? i know it might seem weird (and corny) to some people, but theres nothing wrong with homosexuality. the risky sexual behaviors you hear about can be directly attributed to the fact that they are still largely ostricized -- many gays live in the shadows because they are afraid what will happen if people find out. allowing gay marriage would have a normalizing effect and welcome a previously ostricized social group into the family, so to speak. i can't think of anything more Christlike, Democratic and Free than that...
So the Catholic church throws some charities a bone, I'm imp by I Dunno	Aug 15th, 2005 10:50:12 AM
I've been to Vatican City. Apparently God's doing allright for himself. They can afford to be charitable. If they were serious about it they'd sell off all their gaudy shit and give that to charity. But, while they take great stock in that line about gays in the Bible, they tend to conveniently ignore the whole "easier for a camel to walk through the eye of a needle than a rich man to get into heaven" thing. Oh, and that silly commandment about killing.
DocPazuzu by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 15th, 2005 10:50:20 AM
You talk out your ass and think you sound smart when you don't. I know that you just want to fuck me.
In 20 Years After They Find A Cure For Homosexuality, All This W by Captain Sulu	Aug 15th, 2005 10:52:34 AM
Most scientists in the field think that 20 years is the outer edge of being able to help people with this problem. So all you gay haters will have to find another group of people to be mad at.
Hmmm... by Gym	Aug 15th, 2005 10:53:24 AM
The heady scent of lavender permeates the talkback. Like a room with one of those plug in air fresheners. They have these wee fans inside that spread it all around the room.
I've never fucked a republican... by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 15th, 2005 10:53:57 AM
But my guess is that they'd be a pretty weak lay. I'd love to fuck that nazi pope, though. He's a looker. Good luck losing your own virginity Diana Rules! You'll need it!
"You talk out your ass and think you sound smart when you don by DocPazuzu	Aug 15th, 2005 10:55:32 AM
Yep, you got me.
Captain Sulu by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 15th, 2005 10:57:09 AM
I can't wait until they find the cure for illiteracy and I don't have to hear retarded shit from the likes of you. You got a time-frame on that one?
Okay, Anchorite, Name One Good Thing The Catholic Church Has Don by ZombieSolutions	Aug 15th, 2005 10:57:55 AM
just one. last i heard they were still covering up priestly child sexual abuse, condemning the "subtle seductions" of Harry Potter (Harry Potter? Seductive? uh, i guess... if you happen to be turned-on by little boys), and electing ex-nazis as Pope. i don't know, man; the deck appears to be fairly well stacked. but, any example will do. any "whatsoever you do to the least of my brothers, that you do unto me" type stuff is acceptable.
What Does That Even Mean? by Captain Sulu	Aug 15th, 2005 10:59:12 AM
Did I spell something wrong or something?
Wow! Just what the world needs...more people. by cookylamoo	Aug 15th, 2005 11:02:30 AM
If you asked me who the most dangerous man alive is...no way would it be Kim Jong Dong or Osama (whom I'm sure died two years ago) No it would have to be the Pope who wants to bring millions and millions more people onto this already overpopulated planet simply because 3,000 years ago someone wrote be fruitful and multiply onto a scroll and signed it God. What will being fruitful possibly accomplish besides creating hunger, deprivation, polution, and misery? The best way to wreck a planet is with brainless theology in opposition to all logic. Besides, everybody jerks off anyway.
The Villian In The Aquafag Movie Should Be The AICN Talkback by Diana Rules!	Aug 15th, 2005 11:02:59 AM
"In a world of intolerance and fear, the greatest hope for freedom comes from ... The Water."
Diana Rules, You Big Closet Queen You! by ZombieSolutions	Aug 15th, 2005 11:03:29 AM
being a Republican, like being a Nazi, is a CHOICE. being gay, on the other hand, is NOT A CHOICE. you're born that way. so no matter how much you pretend not to like manmeat, you'll always like it. you can always change party affiliations, though. or go Log Cabin.
No spelling errors, Captain. by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 15th, 2005 11:05:47 AM
I just meant that you're a complete fucking idiot. Sorry you got confused... But I guess that's inevitable.
On Second Thought For The Aquafag Sequel. . . by Diana Rules!	Aug 15th, 2005 11:07:13 AM
I'm now thinking, Aquafag Still Knows What You Did Last Summer.
You Are Making Absolutely No Sense To Me by Captain Sulu	Aug 15th, 2005 11:08:28 AM
What the Hell are you talking about?
Sulu -- Set A Course For Planet ManLove 69, Cause There Is No Cu by ZombieSolutions	Aug 15th, 2005 11:12:50 AM
jesus christ, do you even have a slightest clue what you sound like? what other "Final Solutions" strike your fancy? btw, the actor who plays Sulu is a raging full on queen. he's been outed. do you hate him now too?
"You Are Making Absolutely No Sense To Me" by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 15th, 2005 11:12:52 AM
Get used to that feeling! It'll be occuring throughout your whole life when dealing with people who aren't retards (like yourself). We understand: You're very confused by things. You can stop posting now.
Diana Rules! by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 15th, 2005 11:15:36 AM
Looks like you're losing steam. Nothing really funny about that last one. Maybe it's time to shoot yourself in the head?
Wow, someone who calls himself Captain Sulu, talking baout a fut by I Dunno	Aug 15th, 2005 11:18:39 AM
And Captain Sulu is the only gay guy in Star Trek, the depiction of a perfect future. I'm about to implode in a wave of irony.
Jesus Christ On A Stick! by Captain Sulu	Aug 15th, 2005 11:21:21 AM
I've got NOTHING against gay people. Shit, I was posting on YOUR side. All I did was point out to the haters that when they perfect the science to fix this problem (I NEVER said disease), all the right wingers will have to find a new group of people to hate. They can't hate minorites on the basis of race any more, because that's no longer tolerated. Soon there will no longer be gays to hate either, so what new group will they direct their ire to then. And you accuse ME of being illiterate. Damn, no wonder people accuse some gays of being militant.
Aquafag IV: The Quest For A Piece by Diana Rules!	Aug 15th, 2005 11:29:55 AM
Yeah I know I jumped ahed straight to IV, still a bit stumped on what to call III. Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one working on this, so cut me some slack.
"Just because a billion people choose to live in some desert" by DocPazuzu	Aug 15th, 2005 11:32:24 AM
Oh, so it's a matter of free choice. So I suppose being a big conservative fan of "free choice" means you have no problems with, oh, say less fortunate people south of the U.S. border who have made the choice to improve their lot in life by trying to get into the United States?
My Name Has Nothing To Do With Gay Anything by Captain Sulu	Aug 15th, 2005 11:36:24 AM
This is surreal. All of a sudden I'm a George Takei hating gay basher. You are SO far off the mark I feel like I'm in the middle of a Twilight Zone episode. One reason I like Star Trek is because of the idealized society, the whole tolerance thing. Fuck!
I find it hysterical... by El Borak	Aug 15th, 2005 11:47:36 AM
that the people on THIS TALKBACK can be offended by anything! HELLO!!!! IT'S AICN! FAGGABIFI!!
Sulu by BurlIvesLeftNut	Aug 15th, 2005 11:53:19 AM
Let me clarify for you. You come into a heated argument espousing the idea that there will be a cure for homosexuality. You even refer to homosexuality as a "problem". There will never be a cure for it, and why should there be when it's not a "problem". If you don't understand how loaded that thought process is, then perhaps your detractors are right about you.
another week another weak post by trevorfactor	Aug 15th, 2005 11:54:44 AM
man there is just so much love here! Seriously I don't know where I'd go if this talk back wasn't around spreading the love and kindness and understanding for which it is infamous. My sarcasm reader meter is going crazy right now, wonder why?!?!
Burl by Captain Sulu	Aug 15th, 2005 12:10:14 PM
I agree "problem" is a poor word choice, I was trying to find a way putting it that wasn't "disease" that Zombie was accusing me of calling it. So I should've gotten out a thesaurus or something. As to the cure, I suppose that word should have been different too. I was only referring to the research being done with gene therapy, most science agrees that homosexuality is genetic. So a lot of this research is being done to give parents a choice so that their child isn't born gay, or with a weak heart or something else. In theory, even someone already gay, who wishes to change will be able to do so. I guess alter genetic disposition might have been a more benign phrase, I was just lazy and didn't think it through, I guess. My apologies to any gay person who might've been offended in that case. Most reading I've done though, seems to indicate that within 20 years parents will have better control of how their child is born regarding sexual orientation. Since most parents will probably choose to have a straight child, my guess is that these arguments are going to look silly soon. I certainly wasn't suggesting going around with a de gayifier or something, and altering someone's life without their consent. In 20 years the only gay people will have are those that still choose to be gay, and that's the way it should be. I believe everyone should have the freedom to live their life the way they want to, as long as they're not hurting others. Peace.
Questions... by Blue_Demon	Aug 15th, 2005 12:19:03 PM
If homosexuality isn't a problem answer this: If you had a choice in your unborn child's orientation, would you make him straight? Or make him gay? Answer this honestly. Is homosexuality a BIG problem? No. There are infinitely more straights than gays in the world and the family unit will continue. Next question: Why do they even float the idea of Marky Mark as Aquaman and totally ignore Mark Dacascos as The Sub-Mariner??!! And finally, lets remember that there are only two races. The decent and the indecent. (forgot who said this) Which one you belong to is entirely up to you. Peace.
Isn't it obvious by now? Cameron is trying to avoid making a by Orionsangels	Aug 15th, 2005 12:23:38 PM
So he keeps making these obsecure TV shows, documentaries. He probably feels he's been to the top of the mountain and can go no higher. He's gonna end up like michael jackson.
You know Turtle is reading these posts and cracking up by Quin the Eskimo	Aug 15th, 2005 12:24:16 PM
:)
Better be clear... by Blue_Demon	Aug 15th, 2005 12:24:49 PM
before somebody gets angry. By "indecent" I do not mean homosexual. The world is full of wonderful, kind, and decent people who are gay and we are luckier for it. By indecent I mean people like Hussein, Bin Laden, the Ku Klux Klan, Hitler, his Nazi followers, etc.
anchorite: Soylant Green takes place in 2022 by cookylamoo	Aug 15th, 2005 12:28:27 PM
I hope you're still alive. Hopefully all those hungry desert dwellers won't find you TOO appetizing. I know I don't.
Anchorite by Blue_Demon	Aug 15th, 2005 12:30:39 PM
Well said. Your post should be required reading for anyone who shouts the word "homophobe" in reaction to honest questions.
Answers by Captain Sulu	Aug 15th, 2005 12:31:01 PM
I don't know if you were asking me, but of course I'd choose for my child to be straight. I've got several gay friends (which is what makes this gay bashing rhetoric I've been subjected to so bizarre) who've all told me time and again that no one whould choose that lifestyle if they had a choice. Since an unborn child can't make that choice, I think parents need to do the responsible thing and give their children the best chance to be happy in the world.
Dead Ringer for Aquaman by Crimson Dynamo	Aug 15th, 2005 12:37:49 PM
That guy that used to be in Paul McCatney's touring band in the '90's looks just fucking like Aquaman http://www.maccafan.net/Friend s/s/Hamish.jpg
aquaman sucks by trevorfactor	Aug 15th, 2005 12:47:38 PM
I think this is perhaps one of the lamest movie ideas I've heard in a long time. When is someone going to make a good existing idea or story into a movie like Swan Song or The Dark Tower books? All this remake crap & super hero movie making is getting real old real quick. fun is fun but done is done
Curing Gayness Is Important, But ... by Diana Rules!	Aug 15th, 2005 12:50:32 PM
So is finding the asshole gene. I'd really rather see that moved to the top of the list, followed by the humor gene. Next to those two, I'd put finding the gay gene on the back burner. Anchorite, finally some friggin help around here.
Aquafag III: The Search For Cock by Diana Rules!	Aug 15th, 2005 12:58:07 PM
Sorry Anchorite, gotta go with my gut on this one. I was inspired all of a sudden. The Muse is loose!
Good Points In Re: Catholic Charities, Anchorite, But Re: Homose by ZombieSolutions	Aug 15th, 2005 12:58:21 PM
otherwise it wouldn't exist and homosexuality would have died out. clearly this hasn't happened. if anything, it appears that there are more homosexuals than ever (at least, more vocal and politcally active ones). in addition, studies have shown that families with many children are more likely to produce homosexual offspring. with this in mind, have you ever considered that what appears to be a rise in homosexuality in these times is how the species balances itself out naturally? (in case you haven't noticed, the planet is currently dangerously overpopulated.) in this case, with resoures becoming more and more scarce, less people who have a drive to procreate ultimately means longer survival for the species as a whole. think about it. it's not like straight people suddenly turn gay because of the "lib'rel tv box." they're born that way. it's natural, it's harmless, and it's not going away. most importantly -- it's time for all good people to wake up and realize this. i can guarentee you that everyone who posts posts on AICN, whether they know it or not, are related to, or are close friends with at least one gay person. probably a lot more. don't worry about the species dying out. that ain't gonna happen from gaydom, it's gonna happen from the use of manmade war technology.
What good things does the Church do? by Johnno	Aug 15th, 2005 12:58:30 PM
You might as well ask me how many stars there are in the sky. Aside from the whole salvation thing that you've gotta admit, if it's true... is pretty DAMN BIG! BUt aside from that, there's oh... all that stuff about helping needy people, aiding those in leper colonies, hospitals, schools, heck, the red cross notes that the majority of donators and the biggest contributors to anything around the world are Christians, the Church has contributed HEAVILY to Science and has the world's oldest observatory, and if you're thinking what I think you're thinking, please... please, do bring up Galileo, I relish in delight about the thought of making you look further like an ass. But I guess you're probably asking me what exactly the Vatican does these days, well seeing as how we don't have that much influence over the world these days, the Vatican does get involved with politics and tries to get peace agreements etc going, frankly it is what helps Catholics around the world do the good that they do. And of course there are the usual pronuncements and condemnations of whatever immoral things go on in the world, but wait... people like you don't listen, so it doesn't matter anyway. To say anymore about the good the Vatican does enters religious territory, but I guess you're not the least bit interested in hearing that, but you can rest assured that now the Vatican will no longer tolerate liberals and we will get rid of any potential pedophiles, okay? Also the idea that the Church supported the Nazis is also bullshit, if anything the Jews tahnked the many Catholic Church for all the help they've given them. Your beliefs that the Church and Pius supported Hitler is as misinformed as theidae that the Church officially shielded pedophiles. And as for all this killing business... really, So the Church has killed the most amount of people 'in the name of Christ'? No Shit Sherlock, who else did? Are there two institutions running around killing people 'in the name of Christ'? That's an amazing fact on par with another little known one that says 'Did you know that the most people who rape women are men????' Your command of statistics astounds me, so much so that I can see you are retarded when it comes to history. The Catholic Church's inquisition is revealed to have killed close to 2000 people tops. Over that there is of course the Nazis, then, oh yeah, Stalin, and hell the Far East killed more people in a brief amount of years than the Inquisitions could've done in 400 in order to eradicate Christianity. No, actually, the world has killed more of us than we have ever killed of theirs, and these inquisitions and whatever death penalties and conduct they had at the time were the same procedures practised by the civil authorities! Imagine how many they put to death?! As for the Crusades, I'd dare you to travel back in time and try preaching what you're saying to the Christian and Moslem Soldiers, unlike what you may ahve heard in 'Kingdom of Heaven' these were men of faith who saw what they were doing was of utmost importance, enough to throw their lives away, they'd probably set aside their differences and kill you as soon as finished spewing your worthless philosophy. Perhaps a study on medieval warfare should clear up many things such as why invading armies had to pillage the cities they conquered, after all what would you expect them to do in order to replenish themselves and get food and equipment? Wait for the Vatican to send Hercules and air drop them their supplies by parachute? You dear sir are a class A idiot, but perhaps you're just sincerely misinformed, because if anything you said was truthful, I wouldn't blame you for holding the sentiments you have about the Church. Nice to know you think Jesus was A-Ok, props to that, but let's remember that Jesus also said things like marriage being made for a man and a woman, and how the Scriptures and Laws condemning homosexuality and all that would stand forever and are truthful, and how he said that whatever the Church bound on earth would be bound in Heaven, whose morality and laws and guidance is lead by the Holy Spirit and the gates of hell will not prevail against it. For someone who loves all the things Jesus speaks, you sure don't listen very well. The Catholic Church is one of the oldest institutions in the world. It has been through worse times and it will outlast you. Also please recall the last time we argued when I gave you the hypothetical scenarios where men who were the least of all could change and rise to become great. You are a living example of what Christ meant when he said that the first shall be last and the last shall be first. You are like the older son who became bitter over the fact that the prodigal son returned and was welcomed. And so like that, sinners as nazis, killers, pedophiles and homosexuals will all enter the kingdom of God before you do. And as for your idea that gay people are 'born that way' there is no proof, those who tried claimed it ran with their tail between their legs when it came time to present evidence to teh scientific community, but I'm sure whatever little blurb you read in the press on some metro newspaper at the time was enough for you. The leading cause of homosexuality is still environmental, so until some hard, hell, any evidence at all of the sort shows up, you'll continue to be ignorant.
Holy shit, you're truly insane. Welcome to the year 1340 by Johnno	Aug 15th, 2005 01:05:13 PM
Last time I checked by 'Big Book of Biology' (probably the 1300 edition) Masturbation by oneself is not recommended for having children, since one would need a partneer of the opposite sex in order the achieve that intended result. Also last time I checked the official teachings of the Catholic Church, masturbation is still wrong for that very reason and others. You see I belong to this thing people call a 'religion.'
Johnno what kind of nutto are you? by BurlIvesLeftNut	Aug 15th, 2005 01:09:23 PM
Even my priest friends openly regret the history of the catholic church during WWII. You are arguing against verifiable facts, you nincompoop. I have a catholic acqaintence--NOT clergy--who believes everything negative about the catholic church you read about or see on the news is the result of Jewish detractors controlling the media. He also believes the Pope doesn't poop because that's a human failing. And I am not making this up. Based on your last post, I see you are one of these people with blinders on like my acquaintence. So let me ask you... does the person who will BECOME pope poop? Or does he just not poop his whole life and that's what sets him apart? "Look he doth not poop. He is the chosen one!" Sure the catholic church, like any church does good things. But don't act like it ONLY does good things. Retarded.
I hope they purge the gays from the Catholic church AND I hope t by Johnno	Aug 15th, 2005 01:14:39 PM
You know what's funny...? It was only a little while back that Pope Benedict said the same thing... that in order to maintain the Church we'd have to start becoming stricter, and that he foresaw that the Church would once again be like a mustard seed and represent the times when Christians used to be tiny close knit communities. For one I certainly would agree, so don't worry, the Church is way ahead of ya! The downside is that of course we'd lose many people and be more hated. On the plus side, it fulfills prophecy.
The Fact That Gay People Continue To BE BORN Is Proof Enough Tha by ZombieSolutions	Aug 15th, 2005 01:15:30 PM
nobody "turns" gay suddenly. for people who "come out", they were ALWAYS gay, they just finally admitted to themselves. theres no conspiracy to make people gay. there is, however, a concerted effort to make people deny their gayness for fear of being socially ostricied or worse -- killed. And, in all seriousness, WWJD? think about his words. his deeds. think about it. and think about this -- in less enlightedned times, gay men became priests because that was their only alternative. it was a way to hide people away, and "save them." this is the truth. and you know, peoples hated for homosexuals would be understandable if it was somehow harmful, but it's not! it's not like pedophiles who rape innocents. it's consensual sexual activity between adults. i mean, hey, it might be gross, but it's certainly not a crime. nor is it morally wrong. what is morally wrong is covering up child rape and being complicit in genocide. again, if Jesus were here today, what do you honestly think he would feel about the Catholic Churches activity throughout history. be honest.
what? by CuervoJones	Aug 15th, 2005 01:17:30 PM

Most Science Argues That Homosexuality Is Not A Choice by Captain Sulu	Aug 15th, 2005 01:19:13 PM
Johhno, I don't know what studies you're referring to, but everything I've read in mainstream science publications argues just the opposite. Most research being done in this field is by private companies. Why? Companies are not known for doing research just for the sake of doing it, they want a profit. So if this was dead end research, they'd call it quits. The reason to pursue this is because they ARE making progress and there's money to be made. If your church's position continues to be that the science is invalid (which the catholic church has a history of doing), then you will deprive parents of the right to bring straight children into the world. Teaching people appropriately would actually eventually eliminate gays, which in theory is what your church would want. Or does your church REALLY want to go on believing its a choice and not fixing sexual orientation in the womb so it can go on having a group of "sinners" to always act as scapegoats for the ills of society?
Heh, heh... by Childe Roland	Aug 15th, 2005 01:30:22 PM
..."poop" is funny. So is the notion that the Catholic church is truly concerned about anyone's soul. Go to Rome. Tour the Vatican. Even Sally Strothers couldn't eat all the rice and beans you could buy if you acutioned off just one room full of the stuff the Pope and his cronies are hoarding. Anybody need a six-foot golden pinecone? They come in silver, too. How about a china pew? And over here, just to really hammer home the sideshow element of the whole thing, we have the world's smallest bible set atop the world's largest bibel. Both leafed in 14-karat golf, of course. If Jesus were to walk those halls, you can bet he'd be disgusted. Aquaman, on the other hand, makes Jesus happy because he talks to fish and Jesus was all about the fish.
I'm Not Worried About My Salvation, Johnno by ZombieSolutions	Aug 15th, 2005 01:30:32 PM
because i don't believe in a cartoonish mythological afterlife. i do good works (as a teacher in a poor urban area, and human rights activist) on this earth because it's the right thing to do, not for some sort of reward from Odin, the all father. likewise, when i fuck up, i don't think the Debil is going to eat my soul. what i do is mediate, and yes, even pray. then i alter my actions and try to make good on my mistakes. for me, God is a metaphor for the intelligent conciousness of the universe, an endless conversation of life and love, and i sleep well in knowing that every little thing is gonna be alright... regardles of whether or not the creepy, fearful guy in the robes pours water on my head and makes me drink blood. this life is a dream, a fleeting, crazy dream, and we are all going to the same place regardless of what any self-proclaimed holy man pretends to have a clue about. also: i don't have sex with children, condone genocide, or support those who do. amen.
Anchorite -- It's Risky Behaviors As A Reault Of A Lack Of E by ZombieSolutions	Aug 15th, 2005 01:34:03 PM
not homosexuality or bi-sexuality. btw, you do realize that heterosexuals also spred HIV, AIDS and various other STDs, right?
Humans are programed to prey upon the weak by cookylamoo	Aug 15th, 2005 01:34:38 PM
like effemine gays, intellectual jews, effite liberals and black people wearing heavy chains. Some people can't feel manly unless they have someone smaller and weaker to make fun of. It's like being in High School for eternity.
"What a lame argument" by DocPazuzu	Aug 15th, 2005 01:37:00 PM
This from the guy who has solved all the world's starvation and disease problems by declaring them to be the result of a free choice to live in the countries plagued by said afflictions. The myopia of your original post on the subject was so mind-bogglingly out of touch with reality as to beggar belief. Note: I'm fully aware that the Earth can sustain billions of people more than exist right now, but the idea that free choice is the cause of so much misery in the world would be laughable if it weren't so incredibly ignorant and callous.
Sure BurlIvesLeftNut, the pope does take a poop! by Johnno	Aug 15th, 2005 01:37:07 PM
And I bet he takes big ones too! I don't deny that the Church hasn't defaced itself in the past. I am only defending it from the accusation that it was hand in glove with Nazism. Sure send me those verifiable facts you have, perhaps from the book 'Hitler's pope'? Listen here, if you want to know about Church History, I'll recommend one called 'Vicars of Christ' although the author does get stuff about the doctrines of papal infallibility etc wrong, as far as laying out the list of things that members of the Church did wrong it goes from dishonestly selling indulgences, greedy priests wanting land and benefits and money, sex scandals from priests to the popes, including incest and one pope who slept with his wife, her mother and daughter. Trust me, I'm not going to shy away from this shit! You've got me pegged wrong you ninny. You can read about it all and more, there are much better book than Vicars I'm sure, but that's one I've read, althoguh don't take the areas dealing with doctrines and dogma seriously, it's bullshit, but the history and dirty details I'm sure are legit. However I will not sit back and lightly let things that are bullshit slide.
to quote randal... by atomic_robo_kid	Aug 15th, 2005 01:39:11 PM
this is retarded. and queer.
In all seriousness... by Childe Roland	Aug 15th, 2005 01:40:55 PM
...I have to call bullshit on anchorite's "overpopulation is a myth" theory. You see, anchorite, it isn't so much about everyone needing elbow room as it is about them needing ample resources to sustain life (food and water being chief among these, but shelter and a place far enough away from the former to shit and piss take a close third and fourth). And this isn't even accounting for the priveleged who want their hot and cold running water and garbage collection and two-car garages (you should suggest to them that you all move to Texas at your next meeting where you comfortably sit back, stretch out your legs and disucss solutions to other people's problems). Better yet, suggest to your friends who own homes that they should take in an additional family per room of their homes and split whatever's in the kitchen/bathroom/pantry evenly. Never mind that there aren't additional monetary resources coming into the home because these families don't come with jobs (those have to exist in the area where you would propose they live if you expect them to be contributing members of society). Funnny how when you actually start to look at the complexities of a situation, simple solutions like "move elsewhere" start to sound and smell suspicously like the flatulence of the overfed.
Hey Johnno by DocPazuzu	Aug 15th, 2005 01:41:06 PM
What about female masturbation? Last time I checked, there were no procreational components "with nowhere to go" involved. On a side note: are you married?
In Additon, Anchorite -- Blindness, Deafness, And Disease (et al by ZombieSolutions	Aug 15th, 2005 01:42:00 PM
geez, man, you are really grasping at straws here. and are you serious that theres no overpopulation? are you effing serious? yeah, maybe you could fit the entire worlds population in Texas -- if you stacked their dead bodies from here to Mars. and okay, if theres enough food and resources to go around, how come millions of people are starving around the world? because the US is taking more than they need? well, yeah that's one reason. another reason is overpopulation.
Aquaman the movie: the only way this thing won by silverdog	Aug 15th, 2005 01:48:56 PM

The Raping Pope by Prophet Jeremiah	Aug 15th, 2005 01:49:05 PM
Vicars of Christ is a good book indeed, sadly it's been out of print for years now. Coincidence?
Aquafag V: Cream Warriors by Diana Rules!	Aug 15th, 2005 01:51:53 PM
Not sure if that title's a little obscure or not. If it is, could always go with Aquafag Forever, but I'm not crazy about it.
On Further Consideration ... by Diana Rules!	Aug 15th, 2005 01:54:23 PM
Aquafag V: Attack of the Bones.
Harry this isn't news. No one cares about an Aquaman film. N by The Founder	Aug 15th, 2005 02:00:16 PM

Anchorite -- It's Overpopulation AND Corrupt Governments by ZombieSolutions	Aug 15th, 2005 02:00:26 PM
it's not myth, it's science. and sure corrupt governments are apart of it as well -- ours and others (which is why bullshit like Live 8 is totally meaningless). seriously, you have to wake up, man -- the world just isn't as black and white as you seem to think it is. and homosexuality could only be considered a birth defect if it somehow negatively impacted human functioning. the only thing that makes it a negative is the opinion of a certain set of close-minded / bigoted / fearful people, not fact. gay people are just fine and dandy until some group of sicko hatemongers try to beat them to death or force them into various forms of social / poltical marginalization. maybe someday you'll see this. i wish you the best of luck.
My favorite rant of the homophobes... by DocPazuzu	Aug 15th, 2005 02:04:26 PM
...is the idea that there is some sort of Homosexual Cabal (shades of The Protocols of the Elders of Zion) planning the destruction of mankind through "gay brainwashing" of more and more people until finally, nobody will want to have heterosexual sex anymore. That seems to be the gist of it at any rate.
BTW, You Know That Homosexuals Can Still Procreate, Right? by ZombieSolutions	Aug 15th, 2005 02:09:09 PM
being gay doesn't make them sterile. this is why many gay couples go the surrogate mother route. and sorry, the science shows that it's genetic, not a part of some massive gay media brainwashing conspiracy. i mean seriously, you don't really believe that do you? overnurtring doesn't make kids gay, it's makes them overly dependent. trust me, as an educator, i'm well versed in child psychology.
You Nailed It Dead On, DOC by ZombieSolutions	Aug 15th, 2005 02:11:43 PM
but keep your hands of Rachel Weisz. she's mine. MINE!!!
That Is... by ZombieSolutions	Aug 15th, 2005 02:14:12 PM
keep your hands OFF of Rachel Weisz. we are to be married in the Spring. on a mountain. with unicorns and other magical delights. my gay cousin will also be there, and he is a fabulous singer.
anchorite by DocPazuzu	Aug 15th, 2005 02:15:57 PM
Keep digging yourself deeper into that hole. It's really fucking easy for you to tell the oppressed, starving and diseased people of the world that their lot in life is their own fault for not "rising up" against their oppressors. In fact, living under such a delusion must be utter bliss - without having to be troubled by the slightest sense of compassion for people who've "done it to themselves." Sickening.
Anchorite, Are You Serious? by Captain Sulu	Aug 15th, 2005 02:17:57 PM
There are now a truckload of studies indicating homosexuality is determined at birth. I can gove you links to credible science reports, if you want them. Environmental factors may encourage people to act on their impulses, but not more than that. It won't make someone gay who isn't. I'll also be happy to look at any links you provide that support what you've stated. I wish I could take bets on this from every right winger, I could retire in 20 years. Please tell me you're not one of those crazies that try to shut down research in this area like those currently opposing stem cell research?
Forget it, ZomSol... by DocPazuzu	Aug 15th, 2005 02:21:16 PM
..."The girl is miiiiiine.... oh, yeah, the doggone girl is miiine..."
Switching to "@" is so lame. "Fag" IS used in the gay community. by Mister Man	Aug 15th, 2005 02:23:24 PM
Will some of you move over to the "Six Feet Under' discussion, and tell me WHAT the HELL was up with last night's episode??!!
anchorite by DocPazuzu	Aug 15th, 2005 02:28:16 PM
I wasn't referring to you in my "gay cabal" post. I was moving on to greener pastures after having watched you self-destruct.
Aquafag VI: Aquafag Takes Manhattan ... From Behind by Diana Rules!	Aug 15th, 2005 02:30:32 PM
I sorta see this film as an antihero thing. You know, Aquafag trying to convert all the straights, but they don't want it. So one by one he hunts them down and squirts them with Aquasauce. Sort of a horror type approach from the point of view of the homophobes.
352 posts -good lord by trevorfactor	Aug 15th, 2005 02:33:57 PM
My guess is harry will be doing alot more reviews that point people toward a gay argument based solely on the popularity of the subject. This must be a record or something.
*still waiting for Johnno's reply on the subject of female m by DocPazuzu	Aug 15th, 2005 02:38:03 PM
Well?
Yeah, anchorite... by DocPazuzu	Aug 15th, 2005 02:41:17 PM
...I'm sure loads of big industry lobbyists will be keen to support a candidate who wants to conduct "ethic cleansing" of assorted developing nations.
anchorite by trevorfactor	Aug 15th, 2005 02:41:50 PM
you claim your not posting to argue but your posts say something completely contrary
"And there are studies showing it can be learned behavior as wel by DocPazuzu	Aug 15th, 2005 02:44:41 PM
Just like there are gays who are conditioned to live as heterosexuals until they finally come out. The fact is that homosexuality remains at the same 9 to 11 percent of human beings that it always has. That's pure biology, chief.
anchorite by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 15th, 2005 02:50:08 PM
What a stupid cunt you are. I blame your bad parents. Which is another reason that we're over-populated.
"I am tired of taking bullshit you guys spout as fact when you d by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 15th, 2005 02:53:38 PM
Well, at least anchorite isn't a total fucking hypocrite. Oh wait... he is.
So anchorite's suggesting... by Childe Roland	Aug 15th, 2005 02:55:04 PM
...that, when you subtract all the political bullshit and coerced control of resources from the equation, overpopulation can be dismissed once the resources have been reallocated evenly? Bold statement. And I think I like where it's headed. Does that mean the U.S. gets overthrown and its wealthiest citizens are stripped of whatever they've worked to accumulate or inherited so those resources can also be redistributed evenly? If you'll advocate that, I'll buy into your "overthrow the dictators in every other nation" idea. Oppression is oppression, after all.
Aqua-anchorite VI: The Discovered Cunt by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 15th, 2005 02:56:21 PM

Uuggghhhh by trevorfactor	Aug 15th, 2005 02:57:04 PM
all this over aquaman? here let me resolve a lot of the current conflict: you're all right and present some interesting perspectives but you're all also very very wrong. Is that a broad enough generalization? Good now Hug it out bitches
Actually The Breakdown Is More Like 2 Percent by Captain Sulu	Aug 15th, 2005 03:00:32 PM
Which is still a significant number, and certainly justifies the research to provide help to those who want it. That whole 10 percent thing has been discredited.
anchorite: If you aren't rich... by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 15th, 2005 03:01:01 PM
then you already know what it's like to get fucked in the butt. You poor, brainwashed bastard. The matrix has you.
Hah! by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 15th, 2005 03:02:41 PM
That's all you got. How old are you anyway?
It Seems To Me A Telethon For A Cure Would Raise A Lot Of Money by Red Lantern	Aug 15th, 2005 03:04:09 PM
So why don't both sides support it? It almost seems sometimes like no one really wants to find a cure, they're just happier being able to hate the other side, when really a cure would make everyone happy. If homosexuality really bothers the Republicans, they should want to get rid of it. And if it really is something that no one would choose like the Democrats say, they should want to help those afflicted with gayness. It seems everyone wins that way. I also think an Aquaman movie would be cool, as long as they don't have Aqualad.
WE NEED TO BE MORE TOLERANT OF BIGGOTS LIKE ANCHORITE AND DOCPAS by bushsux	Aug 15th, 2005 03:04:31 PM
Your right anchorite, you're not a homophobe. You're a biggot. Hate is hate, ignorance is ignorance. If these republicans weren't so busy hating gays they'd be going after Blacks, Jews and immigrants. (Oh wait, they still do that!) Gays are an easy target in our society and republicans know this. Why do you think Gay Marriage was the biggest issue in the last election and will be for the next 50 elections to come? The republicans can't win on the real issues like the economy and terrorism, so they have to rally the biggoted people in the bible belt against their worst enemy, the homos. You republicans should get on your knees and thank God everyday for giving you gay people. Without gays, how could you ever maintain power?
I said "hug it out bitches" by trevorfactor	Aug 15th, 2005 03:06:47 PM
ow who am I kidding there is no stopping this talk back war. so might as well provoke it; Get him JARJAR!!! and anchorite are you gonna let him talk to you like that?
Finally Someone Understands What I Was Talking About by Captain Sulu	Aug 15th, 2005 03:07:25 PM
Thanks, bushsux, I was starting to think I was the only sane one here.
Rest assured, Captain Sulu... by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 15th, 2005 03:09:36 PM
You are most definitely not sane.
Umm....quick fact by Quin the Eskimo	Aug 15th, 2005 03:12:11 PM
the 9-11% comes from the Kinsey book. Kinsey gleaned these percentages from his interviewing of....Prisoners!
this is talkback is faaaar more interesting than any LOTR vs SW by Uncooked_Meat	Aug 15th, 2005 03:16:40 PM
... even if it is misguided, misplaced, and queer as a three dollar bill.
anchorite by DocPazuzu	Aug 15th, 2005 03:18:17 PM
Anthropologically speaking, being "homosexual" wasn't a defined term until the 1800's in western culture. If people had sex with others of the same gender, it was seen as abnormal (although common) behavior conducted by "heterosexuals". The idea that someone could actually be biologically wired to prefer the same gender wasn't even entertained by science until very late. With what we know today, the same 9-11 percent has always been there thoughout our history but wasn't clearly mapped and statistically proven until fairly recently. Any reputable scientific material on the subject will repeat the same numbers. By reputable, I don't mean scientific journals with a political or religious axe to grind.
bushsux by DocPazuzu	Aug 15th, 2005 03:23:17 PM
Good God, are you stupid. Try actually reading my posts in the talkback before you accuse me of being a Republican, a bigot, or a homophobe. You just made yourself look like the biggest ass of the day.
Doc.. by Quin the Eskimo	Aug 15th, 2005 03:23:51 PM
Dont want to pick a fight. Your just wrong about the percentages. Really. I did a report on this, most reputable (industry accepted) scientific journals place the number between 1-3%
I must have misunderstood you... by Childe Roland	Aug 15th, 2005 03:27:56 PM
...anchorite. It seemed to me that you were advocating the overthrow of nations that embraced unfair or oppressive regimes designed to create an uneven distribution of wealth and resources among their populations. Wasn't that what you were getting at with the whole "take them down HARD" tough-guy talk? I know we've covered some of this terriroty before, but if you are throwing stones at the way other nations run their governments, you'd best get some aluminum siding up over the glass on your own house first. The inherently corrupt system of government in the U.S. (based in large part on campaign contributions from corporations and other special interests) has done nothing to alleviate the suffering of millions of U.S. citizens, thousands of whom die every year from exposure, starvation, malnutrition or complications arising from inadequate helath care. There are nations (many of which do not make proposing solutions to the rest of the world's problems) that have much better records in these areas than the U.S., yet they aren't advocating the overthrow of our government and redistribution of our wealth. Your complete inability to see anything from a perspective other than that of the white conservative American male is what will always hamstring you in these politcial/philosophical discussions of what might be best for all people in the world. What also hurts you is your unwuillingness to look for solutions that might actually be workable without violence. It seems easier, I know, to simply impose your will on others than to try and get them to agree on something or (even more unlikely) to come to a compromise with them that represents any sort of dilution of your original intent. But how does that work out in practice? Check the history books.
anchorite by DocPazuzu	Aug 15th, 2005 03:28:27 PM
You just don't get it, do you? A president willing to conduct "ethic cleansing" of the style you just suggested would have no greater supporter than yours truly. But your choices seem to be either that science-fictional scenario or just letting them "rise up" themselves, since it all comes down to free choice on their part. Yes, that IS ignorant and callous.
"biggest ass of the day" by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 15th, 2005 03:29:00 PM
Sorry, DocPazuzu, but anchorite is the biggest ass of the day (You're so self-centered). Followed closely by Landoasskissian. Then warrior-poet. Then Diana Rules! Then you and Capt. Sulu somewhere down the line. Damn, I know I'm missing a bunch of assholes in there. Let's call it a rough draft.
Not Picking A Fight Either Doc But Quin Is Right by Captain Sulu	Aug 15th, 2005 03:30:43 PM
The figure that is currently being thrown around is about 2 percent.
Not Picking A Fight by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 15th, 2005 03:32:33 PM
But you really are pathetic, Captain Sulu.
Quin the Eskimo by DocPazuzu	Aug 15th, 2005 03:33:42 PM
Are you basing that on purely American statistics? Western statistics in general? Or world statistics? I happen to think the numbers are higher, but that was never really my point. My point was that the number, whether it be 2 percent or 11, has remained fairly unchanged since it is a fundamentally biological issue and can't be increased or lessened by religious doctrine or a so-called "gay agenda."
You know, I'm going to be pissed by swinky	Aug 15th, 2005 03:33:50 PM
If this silly TB is the reason we didn't get a new one for last night's episode of Entourage! BTW, don't any of you have jobs? Or did everyone call in sick to participate in this TB?
"you accuse me of being a Republican, a bigot, or a homophobe." by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 15th, 2005 03:34:15 PM
OK, OK... We get it. You're NOT a republican.
I'm In Fourth?! How The Fuck Did THAT Happen? by Diana Rules!	Aug 15th, 2005 03:34:34 PM
Same old, same old. Gotta work twice as hard and be twice as good to be considered equal, I suppose.
I'm on my lunch break right now, swinky. by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 15th, 2005 03:35:44 PM
I gotta eat something and go back. Howzabout you?
Jar Jar by DocPazuzu	Aug 15th, 2005 03:36:36 PM
Don't make me trounce you again.
Doh! I Get It Now, I Know Who Jar Jar's Really Pissed At by Captain Sulu	Aug 15th, 2005 03:38:29 PM
EVERYBODY. I was starting to take the shit personally, now I realize you're like the drunk at the party, doesn't matter why you get a reaction just as long as you get a reaction. You and ass2mouthgirl should hook up.
Diana Rules! by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 15th, 2005 03:38:31 PM
You'll never be equal to me because I have a brain and a really good sense of humor.
Jar Jar... by swinky	Aug 15th, 2005 03:38:51 PM
I'm the IT Manager for my company. So my participation in this TB is just a blatant abuse of my power and position as the "network Nazi"! Plus, I'm bored as hell while I wait for a promised software patch to be posted for download.
Those facts are based on world wide studies by Quin the Eskimo	Aug 15th, 2005 03:40:06 PM
BUT..if I recall the percentage was slighly higher in the US as it is easier to be accepted in New York (large Western cities) then in Mexico City (large cities in poor countries) Also, not all people who are born with a pre-dsposition (not that I'm endorsing it's existance) participate in the lifestyle. Not all those who participate are pre-disposed either. It's obvious but needed to be pointed out.
"You and ass2mouthgirl should hook up." by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 15th, 2005 03:40:07 PM
Fuckin' A right we should! That's just about the smartest thing you'll probably ever say Captain Sulu. You should stop now while you're ahead.
"Your screenname is Jar Jar 4 Prez, and you're asking me how by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 15th, 2005 03:42:29 PM
Uh, OK. I notice that you still didn't answer, though. My guess is about 15. Close?
Holy Mother Of God Look What The Cat Dragged In! by Ill Clinton	Aug 15th, 2005 03:43:06 PM
An Aquafag talkback?! Gimme a sec to read up on the posts (unlike the liberals), because I'm sure I've got something to say. Not a political documentary, but it'll do pig, it'll do.
anchorite by DocPazuzu	Aug 15th, 2005 03:52:51 PM
If I could decipher what your last post meant, I might be able to respond to it.
Aquafag VIII: Homo On The Range by Diana Rules!	Aug 15th, 2005 03:53:22 PM
I was also thinking of Homo Alone, and I'm sure you're saying why not just use the other title for IX? I just think it would be crass. Oh Anchorite, I'm with you on VII. That's box office gold!
by buxley	Aug 15th, 2005 03:55:13 PM
Lame. Lame. Lame. What makes you think that "Aquaf@g" is any less rude/insulting/childish than "Aquafag". Give us the cool news and leave the homophobia (excuse me, "in-jokes") in the privacy of your own home.
Still Catching Up by Ill Clinton	Aug 15th, 2005 04:01:05 PM
There's a lot to digest here, so far same people spouting the same things though. Some new faces also spouting the same things. I gotta go over my old posts sine it'll be easier to cut and paste, as the dialogue doesn't seem to have progressed any. Still reading though, so could be wrong.
Keep Fighting The Good Fight Anchorite by Ill Clinton	Aug 15th, 2005 04:02:47 PM
I'll tag in soon. You're doing well though champ, eye of tiger, eye of the tiger.
Changed The "a" To "@"? by Ill Clinton	Aug 15th, 2005 04:07:48 PM
I'm dying here!
If you were to take me seriously, anchorite... by Childe Roland	Aug 15th, 2005 04:14:00 PM
...then I would question my own sanity. But apply your precious mathematical fact. Take the population of any nation and determine the percentage of that population that dies each year due to the inherent flaws of the governmentally supported and upheld social structure (really this would only discount deaths attributable to old age and natural disaster, since most violent crime can be determined to have stemmed from conflict arising out of socioeconomic conditions). Setting aside all allegiances to ideals and concepts of morality, the nation with the highest percentage (not necessarily the highest number of deaths, although I'd be surprised if the U.S. wasn't a Top 5 finisher in both heats) would be the most culpable in the matter of human rights violations, wouldn't it? See my earlier reference to stones and glass houses. It's all a matter of perspective. And before you start calling me a communist (because I know how warm and fuzzy thinking of me that way makes you feel) or unpatriotic or anti-American, keep in mind that you are the one who brought up overthrowing governments and redistributing the resources of the affected nations among the oppressed people. I simply suggested that, if your criteria for doing so was going to be preceived governmentally sanctioned violations of human rights, the U.S. would make the global hit list.
The point is lost by jbearx	Aug 15th, 2005 04:15:50 PM
Well, I think many folks here have missed the point! How this turned into a discussion about wether homosexuality is chosen or a genetic trait really is irrelevant. I'm gay, I never chose to be gay, I just am. Of course I only speak for myself. The point that was originally made here, and for those of you who think it's oversensitivity talking, you really should get to know the people making the points before you call them oversensitive, was that using a word like Fag so liberally on a site open to many different people just displays an utter lack of caring for how it may be preceived. I've never even heard of the show "Enterage", and quite frankly whether this was a reference to an inside TV joke is irrelevant as well! There are unacceptable slurs, and there are still some acceptable ones. Look, I've come to terms with the fact that there will be some incredibly uneducated folks that call gays fags, and black folk niggers, and Spanish folks spics....it's not ok, but you have to learn how to laugh and let it go (Which most of us fags actually have done!) I can only assume that most people here are American, and you have absolutely no idea how terrified most American gays are of the path your country is taking....land of the free eh! certainly not the home of the brave indicated by some of the mindless responses here. This is supposed to be a fun website where we read rumors and reviews about something we all love...movies! Let's drop the gay discussion and focus on what the story was about....one of the lamest comicbook characters being brought to life by James Cameron and Marky Mark...it will probably never happen, and that's what makes this whole talkbalk absolute nonsense and moot anyways!
Who said people turn gay 'suddenly?' by Johnno	Aug 15th, 2005 04:18:09 PM
What conspiracy? As far as I've said, it is down to the basic matter that there is no procreative value to their sex acts. That is all! One can also argue about the psychological problems associated with homosexuals (sadomachosism, pedophilia etc.) but that's another topic. And how many times di i have to tell you, there is no freakin cover-up! The fact is, certain priests molested boys, some members tried to shift priests around dishonestly, but there was never any atempt from those at the top, at the Vatican to hide any of this, I showed you that the last time. As for being complicit in genocide, where? What genocide? If you know something, then spit it out! As far as what Jesus would do or think about His Church, it is dogma that the Holy Spirit guides the Church in her teachings on morality and her doctrines are infalliable. I'm sure Christ is pretty pissed at the liberalism and immoral attitudes some of the Church's members think and do, but more importantly about those who try to be morally relative and attempt to 'reform' within the Church. Throughout the history of the Church there have been scandals etc since the time of the Apostles involving certain members. Nothing new here and it in no way invalidates any of the Church teachings. Yeah, 'hiding gays as priests to protect them'... sounds exactly like what happened in the sex scandal. And well please know that I and many other do believe that 'cartoon afterlife', to us it's an epic deep anime with the collaboration of directors the caliber of Mamoru Oshii to Watanabe, with the CG quality work of Production IG and nature of Gainax with music by Yoko Kanno. Feel free to believe whatever you wish. However it aggravates me to see people who don't understand the Catholic faith and why the Church does what merely spewing out uninformed opinion. If you take the time to find out these thigns then you'll realize why the Church's teachings are not open to be changed and it's all about whether you feel you want in or not. Nothing simpler. One thing is for sure though, whatever is true, we're all going to be finding ourselves in that same situation at the end. BUt other than that your beliefs are merely yours, and you are simply just another man (assuming your beliefs are purely a product of your own.) I'm sticking with one that has stood the test of time and that I find verifiable historically and legitimate. I support your efforts not to have sex with children and in condoning genocide, however you best be prepared, because from what I'm hearing, the pedo's are taking the same route homosexuals did to legitimize themselves. Will you be there to prevent this? And if so you'd better be prepared to give some solid reasons, because these days, anything goes...
Syria's Number One On My Hit List by Ill Clinton	Aug 15th, 2005 04:18:09 PM
We got the troops already in place, I say we roll! Still reading, but as long as we're making hit lists, Syria makes the most sense right now, from a practical standpoint.
Captain Sulu by Johnno	Aug 15th, 2005 04:19:00 PM
All I said was there was no proof that homosexuality is genetic. According to what I've read its exactly the opposite. But feel free to throw me some articles online concerning what you've found, I could be wrong. There are two organizations that you might find interesting to look up such as PFOX (Parents and Friends of Ex-Gays) and another called NARTH. Currently we can say that just because they havn't found a gay gene doesn't mean that it isn't there. But let's assume it was. As far as the Church is concerned, what difference would it make. People can be born blind, with some illness or shortcoming, it's even said that alcoholism is a physical characteristic involving liver enzymes. However that doesn't make being an alcoholic acceptable. The predisposition, if they've found one, ought to be cured. But at the same time anyone without a genetic predisposition might still take to alcohol, just the same the majority of homosexuals are indeed affected due to psychological factors. Send me what you've found, and check out the websites of the above two organizations.
Female masturbation? by Johnno	Aug 15th, 2005 04:20:56 PM
What about it? As far as catholics believe, the sexual act is primarily for procreation. Sex must be between two people of the opposite sex and allow procreation to occur. What is this? You think you 'got' me on something simply because I limited the discussion to male genetalia? Other than procreative matters, masturbation is also an immoral practice because it is fixed in lust and selfishness.
is the word fag really that offensive... by viceland	Aug 15th, 2005 04:23:12 PM
My favourite insults at the moment are cockfag, cuntfag and fag tits. Does that make me a homophobe? I use em on gayers and straights alike. Surely using the word fag is not a hate crime.
"I've never even heard of the show "Enterage"" by DocPazuzu	Aug 15th, 2005 04:31:44 PM
Then you can't possibly know that the quote is from a loser character on the show, who by using the term made himself seem even more ridiculous. Harry made the effort to go back and emphasize the Entourage connection for those of you who aren't familiar with the show. However, putting the blame on others for your lack of familiarity with the show is stupid and counter-productive. It reeks of a baying for figurative blood, no matter what, and by its pettiness and ignorance it consequently diminishes cases of real bigotry and the use of the offending term in question. It's like porn haters who try to draw parallells between the normal variety and the kiddie stuff in order to get rid of it all -- thus trivializing the suffering which the latter entails. It's all about perspective and intent.
if you are... by El Borak	Aug 15th, 2005 04:33:49 PM
offended be the word fag or f@g being used at aicn the you're a moron. turn off your computer and grow up.
Actually there have been studies where mice were put in overpopu by cookylamoo	Aug 15th, 2005 04:36:22 PM
So, in fact, homosexuality may be nature's way of cutting down the population. Perfectly natural. Or did you think we were the only animals that do it? Now Anchorbrain, I want you to go out and buy a copy of Malthus and read what he says about the doubling of populations and how it keeps happening quicker and quicker. They try to get some sleep...I couldn't.
Johnno by DocPazuzu	Aug 15th, 2005 04:38:35 PM
Forgive me if I don't consider a celibate to be an authority on either masturbation or sex, chief - even if it is the Popemeister General. That aside, that was some seriously hilarious reading. You still haven't answered the question about whether you're married or not, though. Also, I have one more for you: if sex is geared solely towards procreation, does that mean that infertile couples must abstain?
Wow when I saw there was 401 posts on Aquaman, I thought "Wow a by spectrebeeyatch	Aug 15th, 2005 04:39:38 PM
but then I found out that this TB is used for people to randomly talk about subjects they have no knowledge of. Anyway this movie will probably never happen, but we can always hope.
Is anyone going to aknowledge the simple fact .... by I Dunno	Aug 15th, 2005 04:42:47 PM
That being rich is at least as much as a sin as being gay but most churches are fucking rich? No? Ok. Well Aquaman is still gay.
Docpazuzu by Johnno	Aug 15th, 2005 04:52:30 PM
It's okay, the Pope's not forcing you to listen to him, sorry forgot to answer your question, but no I'm not married. But I guess you'd probably bring up the topic about raising too many children then right? As for infertile couples, no it doesn't mean they abstain despite that it will not work (then again neither did Abraham and Sarah think it was possible either), and teh sexual intercourse between them is still complementary. Anyway for the full argument, I recommend going here: http://www.catholic.com/thisro ck/2003/0311fea3.asp
Johnno by DocPazuzu	Aug 15th, 2005 05:00:15 PM
The next question must of course be: do you masturbate? If you say "no", that means you're either a liar or seriously disturbed - not to mention seriously backed-up. Before reading your later posts I would have bet on you being a liar, but as it stands, you might just be zealous enough to be the latter. If you say "yes", however, you're merely a hypocrite. Furthermore, if it's okay for infertile couples to have sex, why can't gay couples, who for all intents and purposes also are infertile? That parallel certainly makes a hell of a lot more sense than your "homosexuality is masturbation and contraception combined."
Re: Redbox by s00p3rm4n	Aug 15th, 2005 05:08:51 PM
"I hate it when rich, white, educated Gay men tell me that they are just as oppressed as blacks in this country." Um. That's not true. It's just a different type of oppression. Oppression of racial minorities is engrained in the minds of everyday citizens (who happen to be assholes) - it's not to be found in lawbooks anymore. Homophobia is both supported by the law AND many major religious institutions, as well as being engrained in the minds of everyday ballsacks. We can't marry the women we love, we can't visit our spouses in the hospital, we can't will our estates, we can't adopt children or legally retain custody of our biological children... and finally, we can't jump. So what is a white gay man to do?
DocPazuzu by Johnno	Aug 15th, 2005 05:16:35 PM
The answer is of course, yes, but how am I a hypocrite? Have I outright condemned anyone personally for masturbating? No, all I've done is tell you what the Catholic Church teaches and why. And please read the link for your solution on infertile couples. Since most of what I argued here was primarily with concern to homosexuality, I went with the procreative route. For the complete Catholic view the procreative aspect is also joined with the unitive aspect of the couple, and these two aspects cannot be seperated otherwise it would be a sort of discord and distorts the relationship between husband and wife as intended since creation. Please read the link for further clarification on what the Church teaches which includes infertile couples. As for my comment "homosexuality is masturbation and contraception combined", I meant to draw a comparison that the seed goes nowhere, in a way I want to say that homosexuals are no different from heterosexual couples who do those things in order to clarify that any heterosexual who puts down homosexuals when they themselves openly would do those things and not think them immoral has no real argument against why homosexuals shouldn't do what they do.
Although I hate to side with anchorite... by DocPazuzu	Aug 15th, 2005 05:17:18 PM
...I, too, have personal experiences which refute at least some of those points.
Johnno by DocPazuzu	Aug 15th, 2005 05:21:01 PM
Soooo..... that must either mean that you are as "immoral" as the homosexuals you mentioned, or that you have no real argument against what homosexuals do since you masturbate, yes?
Funniest Line So Far "LandoAss is a fucking appeaser." by Ill Clinton	Aug 15th, 2005 05:33:50 PM
Dying I tell you, dying.
DocPazuzu by Johnno	Aug 15th, 2005 05:35:08 PM
Good doctor, the point I'm trying to make is what the Church teaches what it does about homosexuality, masturbation etc. and why. Yes I am as immoral as homosexuals or any other kind of sinner. I am not here to defend myself, only my religion which openly states that we are all the same when it comes to immorality. The argument will only have validity if you accept that the religion I believe in is true. And it's teachings are this way because they rest on a foundation and immovable dogmas. Otherwise, from a neutral, relative perspective, anything and everything can be justifiable 'just because...'
"We can't marry the women we love, we can't visit our sp by Ill Clinton	Aug 15th, 2005 05:40:13 PM
Hire a lawyer! Someone has sold you a bill of goods if you believe any of that. OK, all caught up now. Zombie, you still owe me a lollipop, lying liberal.
Johnno by Quin the Eskimo	Aug 15th, 2005 05:42:45 PM
I respect you for taking a stand. It's not easy. Standing for something puts everyone on the defensive, as if your morality shames them or something.
Johnno by DocPazuzu	Aug 15th, 2005 05:43:31 PM
If everyone is an equal sinner, then surely homosexuals wouldn't be singled out from everyone else as being particularly deviant. In fact, if the clergy must remain celibate then it can't really matter if they're gay or not, yes?
longest TB ever??? by Brit Pop	Aug 15th, 2005 05:43:56 PM
419 posts about Mark Walberg, Religion, Homosexuality and semen in the water.... It's times like these I wished I was unemployed! If it just so happened that I was masturbating right now to broadband speed internet porn, and stop before the end... do I still go to hell?
"Standing for something puts everyone on the defensive" by DocPazuzu	Aug 15th, 2005 05:45:04 PM
I am most definitely not on the defensive, Quin.
Masturbation and Homosexuality Are Nowhere Near The Same Thing by Ill Clinton	Aug 15th, 2005 05:45:13 PM
Doc, you're on crack. Crack I tell you. Homosexuality is not natural. As cooky pointed out, it is in response to unnatural situations. Homosexuality is considered a desirable choice only when something is wrong in an individual's personal life. People in good environments do not choose to become gay, but they do masturbate.
Doc.... by Quin the Eskimo	Aug 15th, 2005 05:49:25 PM
You have made decent points right up until that last one. Inane.
Doc.... by Quin the Eskimo	Aug 15th, 2005 05:49:25 PM
You have made decent points right up until that last one. Inane.
Johnno, For A Papist You Talk A Lot Of Sense by Ill Clinton	Aug 15th, 2005 05:49:47 PM
You are also resisting the urge to lash out at the bigotry you are being faced with. If you need me to throw in a profanity for you, just let me know. And Doc, why are you so interested in knowing people's masturbation habits? That is NOT normal.
Asking to get flamed... by dominic_vobiscum	Aug 15th, 2005 05:49:59 PM
(har har) Anyway. Just to clarify an often misunderstood point (usually by homophobes) Pedophiles aren't gay. Most are products of sexual abuse themselves and target children who are the same sex and age as they were when they were abused. Or, in the case of priests and Michael Jackson, their sexual development is stunted. Either way, it's projection. Pedophiles are actually raping themselves. Priests having to be celibate and not being able to get married only goes back to the Middle Ages. They didn't want Joe the Priest to die and have an heir who could claim the Church's property as his/her own. See. It all comes down to keeping the Pope in fancy robes and ruby slippers. Also, anyone who quotes the Bible as a factual text can't be taken seriously. Why not quote The Brother's Grimm or Aesop's fables while you're at it. That one about the fox and the grapes...priceless wisdom there.
"Masturbation and Homosexuality Are Nowhere Near The Same Thing" by DocPazuzu	Aug 15th, 2005 05:50:14 PM
It's Johnno who drew that parallel, Ill Clinton, not me. I thought you spent all this time reading the talkback?
When someone chooses the by Quin the Eskimo	Aug 15th, 2005 05:51:05 PM
priesthood they do not become a-sexual
"You have made decent points right up until that last one. Inane by DocPazuzu	Aug 15th, 2005 05:52:27 PM
You mean that I AM on the defensive, Quin?
"they do not become a-sexual" by DocPazuzu	Aug 15th, 2005 05:55:12 PM
Still not getting your point. Do homosexuals have stronger urges than heterosexuals? Is that what you mean?
I was referring to the post on priests/orientatin by Quin the Eskimo	Aug 15th, 2005 05:55:39 PM
I wasn't refering to you specifically, but talkbackers in general.
The fact that you've seen A Fish Called Wanda... by Childe Roland	Aug 15th, 2005 05:56:08 PM
...goes some distance toward redeeming you as a person, anchorite. But not much. While I will gleefully concede that not all deaths resulting from causes other than natural disasters and old age are directly attributable to governmental neglect and/or corruption, I think it's pretty obvious that A.) I was oversimplifying to make a point (something you yourself have been encouraging me to try) and B.) there is some basis in fact for this statement. A man shooting another man for his money is most definitely the outcropping of an unbalanced socioeconomic structure kept in place by the government. The victim clearly had something the criminal did not, hence the motive "for his money." Check the current murder rates in major U.S. cities. Many of them are up in direct proportion to the decline of economic conditions (particularly in former major manufacturing centers) over the last several years (as more jobs manufacturing products for U.S. based companies have been exported overseas in an effort to keep bottom line costs down for U.S. businesses). Kind of an odd coincidence, no? And what else has been influencing the decline of the economy? Might be a certain war being waged for dubious reasons overseas. Some American businesses are, in fact, profiting as a result of what's going on over there, but most of them are in Texas and not interested in sharing. And I'll go a step further to really help you see the big picture and how beautifully complex it is. Your bar of soap accident? Could be an outcropping of socioeconomic unbalance stemming from governmental corruption as well. Depends on where it happened, who built the home, who installed the shower, whether it was government subsidized housing project, how it was bid and a multitude of other variables. The car accident you posit is even less of a leap. Do you know how freeway contracts get bid in most major U.S. cities? Do you think this process is squeaky clean and upstanding in places like Chicago (sorry to pick on you, Chicago, but you have been in the news for this sort of shit lately)? No need to blame the police for this one, either. They have enough to do trying to keep the poor from following your advice and giving in to their instinct to take what they want violently from the rich (whom they vastly outnumber). You keep accusing me of having a Communist or Socialist agenda (which, as I said, I understand as a defense mechanism but it really isn't very convincing when you're the one who first suggested overthrowing governments and redistributing the resources (it really doesn't matter how they got those resources... possession is 9/10ths of the law... just ask the Texas oil companies, defense contractors and Haliburton) or encouraging the oppressed majorities to rise up and seize power from their oppressors. All I continue to say is that if you are going to apply that methodology with your stated criteria, you have to start at home to keep from being a big fat hypocrite. As for my "plan" to make the third world better, I'd start with the third world in our own back yard and, for obvious reasons, would prefer to avoid the violent uprising you seem to recommend. Unlike you, I don't engage in the practice of prescribing unilaterally determined solutions to worldwide problems. I'll attempt to stimulate intelligent discussion of options and alternatives... but part of that means calling attention to the really dumbass ideas like yours so they don't trip the rest of us up on our way to a better world.
A priest should not/cannot be by Quin the Eskimo	Aug 15th, 2005 05:58:35 PM
a person with same gender attraction to to the fact that it is...forbidden. It's internal consistancy demands it. It has nothing to do with urges. I believe the celibate priest idead started with Paul who chose not to marry so he would have more time to serve his Lord.
Priestz 'n the hood. by Brit Pop	Aug 15th, 2005 06:02:46 PM
Priests don't have it easy though... I mean, it must be difficult to hold on to their celibacy what with all the sexually orientated stuff that goes on in church... First - some of them have to wear dresses. Second - they go to a place with full of iconography of a scantily clad dude nailed to a cross S&M style. Third - they get to listen to all kinds of sexy confessions, if I were a vicar I'm sure I'd fire off a couple of knuckle children every now and again! Fourth - lots of good, clean girls (or boys, if thats your thing) kneeling in front of you waiting for liquids or solids, or both to be put in their mouths. Fifth - crossing yourself is quite similar to vogueing. Everyone calls you daddy... or it it father? I forget.
DocPazuzu by Johnno	Aug 15th, 2005 06:05:35 PM
Well in terms of sexuality, there are things considered normal, meaning that they are used for a specific purpose, and when they are not then it becomes deviant. For a random example, a toaster toasts bread, and it does it well, but say you use it to boil rice, then it wouldn't be very good at all, even dangerous. Or like a kitchen knife cuts meat and vegetables, but one can also use it as a weapon and stab someone. Of course you could say there are levels of deviency and things that are 'more deviant' than others, though in the long run it's all a shortcoming anyway. But Christianity is always trying to lead people to 'perfection,' impossible for falliable humans, yes, but it is always obsessed with its creation working effeciently to the full extent, self control, perfect love, and all that. So it demands that such things be used for their intended purposes and avoid incidents like trimming your hedges with your lawn mower and folding your baby up along with the carriage, if you know what I mean. The issue with celebate clergy and allowing homosexuals who take a vow of chastity is quite painful. For one we'd need to know that the homosexual who wants to be a priest will remain celibate and continue to follow obey and teach what the Church believes about homosexuality. It would be rare to find one that can do this, and at the same time given the sexual abuse scandal we'd have to ask ourselves whether we can really afford the risk again? For example I heard that in order to be a military fighter pilot, you must have 20/20 vision. Sure it's possible that one who wears glasses or contact lens could still be able to do the job well, but apparently they don't take the risk, after all should something happen, they could lose a million dollar aircraft and there's be other losses and complications. In the same way, it would be risky to have another scandal happen, especially since this one as you can see cost the Church quite a bit of credibility, and it also has enough trouble getting the laity to accept its teachings. It might still be possible for gay people to become priests and live celibately and accept the Church's teachings, but I'd say such men would be exceedingly rare.
tacking on to the last post by Quin the Eskimo	Aug 15th, 2005 06:06:36 PM
all sin is the same in that it seperated you from God. That does not mean that the consuquences of loudly farting in church is the same as murder.
Which is the most forbidden, Quin? by DocPazuzu	Aug 15th, 2005 06:10:50 PM
For a priest to have sexual relations of any kind? Or for a priest to have a homosexual preference which he never acts upon? The Paul theory is a revisionist tale in order to deflect attention from the fact that celibacy is a way to keep as much wealth as possible within the church. Furthermore, if you control the ideas of what constitutes "carnal sin" as well as make yourselves out to be the only authority who can dole out forgiveness (even if only by proxy), you control the everyday life of ordinary people. Make people ashamed of it, and then provide the only sanctioned liberation from it - provided, of course, that you live your life the way the church wants you to. Controlling people through guilt induced not only by a sinful action, but by the mere uncontrollable THOUGHT of it. It's ingenious, no doubt about it. It's also archaic, profoundly sinister and most definitely a creation of man.
"It might still be possible for gay people to become priests and by DocPazuzu	Aug 15th, 2005 06:18:59 PM
Sooo... You're saying that gay men have stronger sexual urges than straight men?
"Controlling people through guilt induced not only by a sinful a by dominic_vobiscum	Aug 15th, 2005 06:20:18 PM
Well said. According to many behavioral experts its the Catholic Church's refusal to acknowledge the biological necessity of sexual desire, and the demonizing of said desire that is one of the major causes of pedophila in the church. It's no more unlikely that a homosexual could be celibate than for a heterosexual to be celibate.
gay men DO have stronger sexual urges than straight men... the u by Brit Pop	Aug 15th, 2005 06:22:54 PM

The difference between fag and f@g. by dominic_vobiscum	Aug 15th, 2005 06:27:44 PM
One is Harry acknowledging the joke about him on Entourage. The other is the worst example of bullshit backpeddling I've seen in a while. Fag wasn't offensive. F@g is. But that's just my opinion. If you're gonna use an epitaph (even if they are in the context of an "obscure reference), have the balls to stand behind it. Coward.
Entourage is currently the best show on television. by GravyAkira	Aug 15th, 2005 06:29:03 PM
It is the only show I watch on a regular basis. Just thought I would add my 2 cents.
We should add Johnno to the list of this talkback's biggest by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 15th, 2005 06:32:28 PM
and we should bump DocPazuzu up a notch, to tie him with Diana Rules! Gay men have stronger sexual urges than straight men! Keep going! You're "trouncing" yourself.
Jar Jar 4 Prez, you ignorant slut by DocPazuzu	Aug 15th, 2005 06:36:31 PM
Again, you show how stupid you are by completely misunderstanding my post.
Let's all just agree on a few simple facts: by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 15th, 2005 06:38:40 PM
1. All republicans are assholes. 2. DocPazuzu is an asshole, despite not being a republican. 3. Diana Rules! isn't very funny at all.
It would be nice if someone on Entourage by cookylamoo	Aug 15th, 2005 06:43:08 PM
would call Vince and his crew a bunch of fucking bigots, which is what they are.
Regardless of whether you agree with Jar Jar... that was fucking by Brit Pop	Aug 15th, 2005 06:44:47 PM

DocPazuzu by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 15th, 2005 06:49:12 PM
has issues with sluts. Stemming from his mother and her actions when he was a small child. I, on the other hand, have absolutely no issues with sluts. I love to fuck DocPazuzu's mother.
Well, Jar Jar... by DocPazuzu	Aug 15th, 2005 06:55:05 PM
...you're really showing your age now, since you didn't even get the SNL reference. Don't know about the "slut issues" I may have, but according to my mom, you definitely have "performance issues".
Yeah, yeah... Dan Ackroyd on the news. by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 15th, 2005 06:59:18 PM
You can quote old SNL episodes, but it doesn't make you smart or funny. How old are you, DocPazuzu? My guess is that you're older than some of the others. Mid-twenties maybe? Also, your mom told me that the thorough, hard fuckings that I give her are the only thing that keeps her from killing herself after having a disappointment of a son like you.
"Yeah, yeah... Dan Ackroyd on the news." by DocPazuzu	Aug 15th, 2005 07:05:27 PM
I'll bet that isn't the first time Google bailed you out of a tight spot. The only "thorough, hard fuckings" you've ever experienced in your short life are the ones you've received at the hands of other talkbackers here today. Mom says "Hi, Pinky."
As if... by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 15th, 2005 07:11:30 PM
anybody who doesn't acknowledge your stupid quotes doesn't know where they came from. God, you're pathetic. That's all you got. Also, your mom said to stop calling and kill yourself. Right before she started sucking her poopstains off of my dick.
Fuck you, anchorite. by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 15th, 2005 07:19:41 PM

"But Aquaman, you can't marry a man without gills... by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 15th, 2005 07:20:56 PM
You're from two different worlds."
"anybody who doesn't acknowledge your stupid quotes doesn by DocPazuzu	Aug 15th, 2005 07:25:00 PM
Nice try. You DO in fact acknowledge them every time, without exception, and always incorrectly. I'd love to stay and chat some more, sport, but real life calls. Please feel free to continue indulging yourself, Jar Jar, and I'll get back to you tomorrow.
Huh? by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 15th, 2005 07:30:22 PM
I didn't acknowledge the slut quote--which is the very reason you assumed that I didn't know where it was from. I think that it's best that you take a rest from the talkbacks, because you're just spouting gibberish and you obviously need a rest. Oh wait, your mom just stopped sucking my dick long enough to tell me that you always talk gibberish because you were born retarded. Oh well, guess a break won't help. Don't bother coming back. Don't forget: Kill yourself immediately!
DocPazuzu's mom gives a good blowjob... by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 15th, 2005 07:34:01 PM
because she doesn't have any teeth. If anybody on these talkbacks wants her phone # just let me know.
wait, I have certifiable proof the world is over populated: by BurlIvesLeftNut	Aug 15th, 2005 07:55:37 PM
Anchorite is among us and wasting precious air.
This Just In, Jar Jar 4 Prez Is ass2mouthgirl by Captain Sulu	Aug 15th, 2005 08:09:59 PM
How it must've burned to be banned at the same time the Aquaf@g TB went up.
This just in: by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 15th, 2005 08:21:26 PM
Captain Sulu is a cunt. Also, he's wrong about my identity. Actually, ass2mouthgirl is Doc Pazuzu's mom. Trust me, I know.
anchorite by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 15th, 2005 08:25:12 PM
He only likes hate when he's the one spewing it... not when he's the recipient. Sounds like a real dish-it-out-but-can't-take -it guy. A hypocritical weasel, just like all republicans.
by foreignerbelt	Aug 15th, 2005 08:33:36 PM
I'm REGULAR Stormy.
by foreignerbelt	Aug 15th, 2005 08:47:39 PM
I'm BIZARRO Stormy
Aquafag IX: The Spawning by Diana Rules!	Aug 15th, 2005 08:56:20 PM
Just when you think the well has run dry, boom! There it is. In front of me the whole time.
"That's swell. So am I. I don't have to teach college (o by ZombieSolutions	Aug 15th, 2005 09:06:20 PM
yeah, but you do, (or you should) if you are a specialized elementary school teacher who teaches primarily at-risk children or children with emotionally problems in high poverty areas. see, i happen to be one of them, thanks, so child psychology is a requirement. oh and good luck with the hole. i'll through a ladder down when your finished with the whole Dark Ages thing.
"Propagation of the species is about as BASIC as you can get in by ZombieSolutions	Aug 15th, 2005 09:13:35 PM
yeah, but again, homosexuality doesn't make you sterile. that's why many gay couples go the surrogate mother route. pay attention man! sheesh.
by xphyle	Aug 15th, 2005 09:29:09 PM
it aggravates me to no end when peopl equate homosexuals struggles to the african american struggle...
"warrior-poet" by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 15th, 2005 09:51:40 PM
You're not much of either, are you? You should post some of your poetry. Now THAT would be funny. My guess is that you're a 15 year old pussy that gets picked on at school. warrior-poet! Hah!
AquaF@g?!? by Harry Weinstein	Aug 15th, 2005 09:56:01 PM
I have a sneaking suspicion that anybody who would be offended by seeing the word "AquaFag" would be equally offended by "AquaF@g"... and anybody who'd be offended by either wouldn't last very long around these parts anyway. Are we not equal opportunity offenders anymore?
I am offended too by MrCere	Aug 15th, 2005 09:56:36 PM
The frequent use of the word "FUCK" offends me. To me, that is a special act between two consenting adults and here it is thrown about like so much slang which degrades the union of two souls. I am deeply offended and now I expect all usage of the word to stop. Right now! I mean it! I don't care if I am a minority of one, I am still a minority. While I am at it, please stop saying "CUNT" and "COCK". Try to use words like vagina and penis. They are much less hateful.
Could some kind gay person clear something up for me? by MrCere	Aug 15th, 2005 09:59:18 PM
Some have asserted that only people who are gay can use the word "fag". What about a man who has smoked a penis or two but isn't really gay? He can he say "fag" or "queer"? Is there a place so sign up for premission to use the word "fag"?..............Also, I think only people who prefer beastiality can say "sheepfucker" isn't that right?
While I am thinking about this by MrCere	Aug 15th, 2005 10:02:16 PM
Since "FUCK" offends me, and I have performed the sexual act, I guess it is okay for non-virgins to call somebody a "fucker" right? I mean, virgins are out of the club and those of us IN the club (a very select few on this site to be sure) should be the only people allowed to say "fucker". I think I am catching on to this political correctness!
Landoasskissian by MrCere	Aug 15th, 2005 10:04:24 PM
If you are an appeaser, it seems obvious to me that you have appeased somebody.
People are stupid by MrCere	Aug 15th, 2005 10:07:42 PM
Here is proof: Somebody typed this, Feel free to substitute "republicans" for a word of your choosing, the effect is the same.
by foreignerbelt	Aug 15th, 2005 10:36:47 PM
I'm REGULAR Stormy.
by foreignerbelt	Aug 15th, 2005 10:37:08 PM
I'm Bizarro Stormy
Doc, You Are Correct, Zombie, I Want My Lollipop by Ill Clinton	Aug 15th, 2005 10:50:54 PM
I see that you were arguing from the point of view of the papist. I hate when people misread my posts, so only fair I should be taken to the woodshed. Lando, that was in reference to a post by Adam Balm higher up in the TB. Diana is never funny when talking about conservatives, only when bashing liberals and I don't think it's even handed. More wisdom to follow . . .
"What about a man who has smoked a penis or two but isn't re by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 15th, 2005 11:21:21 PM
There's your proof that people are stupid. Also, you can't substitute the word "republicans" FOR "a word of your choosing", because the word "republicans" is already in the statement. Learn some grammar you illiterate redneck. What you mean is substitute the different word FOR "republicans." Jesus, you're a fucking retard... But I guess I'm just pointing out the obvious again. Just like I'm always doing around here.
To All Who Deliberately Misunderstood Anchorite On Ethnic Cleans by Ill Clinton	Aug 15th, 2005 11:27:16 PM
You seized on that phrase and quickly twisted it out of context. Knocking off the leadership of a country in no way implies then redistributing the wealth. Knocking off the unlawful leadership of a country, allowing a representative form of government to take its place, THEN allowing voters to decide which direction their country goes is more in line with what I believe anchorite was getting at. And if not, well, that's MY position. I agree that we don't use our military enough. Iraq was overdue. To those who would ask, aren't other countries just as bad?, my answer is that they too are overdue. Should we take on everyone at once and clean up the mess? No. Should we use our military to correct injustice and right wrongs where possible? Yes, always.
"You seized on that phrase and quickly twisted it out of context by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 15th, 2005 11:32:07 PM
Which is usually the job of the republicans. Fight fire with fire--That's what I've been saying all along. Right-wing dingbats win because they can play dirty, while all the good people feel that they have to play by some "rules" or something. The crooks running this country don't have any sort of moral/ethical code that they live by... Why should we when we fight against them?
"Sooo... You're saying that gay men have stronger sexual urg by Ill Clinton	Aug 15th, 2005 11:40:41 PM
Doc, once again a case of reading something into a post that isn't there. Thank God I found you guilty of it, my shame is lessened. You don't truly think that's where he was going with that do you?
This Talkback Is A Great Illustration Of Why The Democrats Can&# by Ill Clinton	Aug 16th, 2005 12:04:23 AM
I've said it before, I'll say it again. Every talkbalk is the same, the conservatives rarely tear each other part over minor disagreements, and the liberals spend as much time ripping each other apart as they do the opposition. If it wasn't so sad, it would be comical. Allright, it is comical, but also sad too. The funniest thing is the hard core left can't even correctly identify who's on their side. And if they do, it doesn't make much difference. Once that hate train gets rolling, it's tough for them to pull back. Liberals love to say they are about tolerance for everyone, yet on this talkback (and it's not by any means the only one), I've watched them eat their young! Apparently conservatives pay more attention to what people say than the liberals do, which is absolutely typical. Liberals want their EXACT opinions mirrored back to them, or that person is "intolerant" or, the worst insult they can imagine, a Republican. I truly believe that die hard liberals would rather go down in flames each and every election so they can offer the classic "Don't blame me, I didn't vote for him" rather than win and actually have to accept some responsibility for having to run things. All liberals? No. I won't generalize to that degree. Look at how this whole thing started though. Harry puts up a post. Liberals bitch because there is no context. Harry adds context. Liberals bitch because the word "fag" is in there. Harry swaps the "@" for the "a." No thank yous for hearing us, just more bitching because it's not EXACTLY what they want. Harry shouldn't have to apologize for people not getting the Entourage reference. But he let it be known he was listening to the complaints. Was that a deliberately attention grabbing title? My guess would be on the Hell Yeah side. But he certainly didn't have to back off it one bit. He did twice, and STILL people are posting down the thread about taking offense. As someone else pointed out, where all all those people in the Superman talkbacks, which are always far more vitriolic than anything Harry's ever written (that I am aware of) on the subject? And here's something I'm just guessing, I'll bet you that lollipop Zombie owes me that Harry voted for Kerry. Of course he may have been watching Blade II again on election day.
Yeah, It Was Pretty Obvious Anchorite by Ill Clinton	Aug 16th, 2005 12:06:42 AM
The only way you could misunderstand was if that was what you wanted to do. I too am tired of sending aid into the hands of warlords and tyrants. I have nothing against aid, but I'm in agreement on the teach a man to fish metaphor.
Yes indeed Jar Jar by MrCere	Aug 16th, 2005 12:37:09 AM
I did indeed make a grammatical error in a talk back. I don't feel all that unique. As for the penis smoking comment, and I am glad somebody read it before it this talkback died, I was being slightly subtle in making a point, which is probably pointless as this bastion of good taste and good thinking. Earlier in the talkback a person commented that only a gay person could use the term "fag". This was a silly thing to say and I was making a little fun of this line of logic. Your use of the word "fuck" and "fucker" continues to offend me, so please stop. Enjoy the rest of the talkback!
Holy shit!! by docfalken	Aug 16th, 2005 12:48:29 AM
Wow. What a talkback. I love burlivesleftnut. We are lovers. He's my mountain man. But don't tell my wife or my priest. They both get jealous.
Doc, he who's hung like a donkey. by Man-in-the-Box	Aug 16th, 2005 01:43:00 AM
Some of us know the truth about you my friend. We know that you look like Bea Arthur, and that you're the mastermind behind a secret community. A community that harbors such dirty little secrets as The Evil Fucking Bastard Room, and the FACT that it's inhabitants blindy follow the senile ramblings of a certain aging Italian movie producer. You will be exposd for the evil that you partake in. DEATHFRIZBEES all around.
Aquafag X: The Chronicles of Red Dick by Diana Rules!	Aug 16th, 2005 02:40:12 AM
This is where we find out exactly what the mating between man and mermaid produces in the area of genitalia. And it's shocking. And red.
Overpopulation a myth? by Gym	Aug 16th, 2005 03:06:34 AM
I've read so much on the subject of overpopulation from an ecological standpoint that i honestly thought that anyone with any kind of cop-on would realise the problems posed by the exponential growth of the human race in the recent times. I was utterly stunned to read here that people can dismiss scientific fact (yes, FACT) so readily if it doesn't fit with their point of view. Corrupt governments and conspiracies? All we need to do is overthrow the dictators? Oh, sweet jesus save us. Current western standards of living work out at about 9 hectares per person, meaning that it takes 9 hectares to produce all the energetic requirements for that person in a year. The planet currently can't support that, not even close. In poorer areas, this figure is as low as 2 hectares. The point of view that we should simply "liberate" poorer countries and raise them to our standard of living (and hence consumption)is one of the most stunningly naive (sic, no doubt) and ignorant things i've ever heard. Few people will advocate that western standards of consumption should be reduced, fuck no. There is no easy solution to the current ecological situation as regards the human population, but a good start would be for some of the FUCKING idiots out there to at least acknowledge the problem. Now, i'd imagine that this point will be lost in the torrent of viewpoints crowding this talkback,or casually dismissed as LIEberal (and you can't fight subtle wordplay like that)bullshit, but dammit if i didn't feel the need to have my "two cents", as it were. Theres a lot of pseudo-intellectual bollocks flying around this talkback, and i'm as guilty as anyone, but i'll be jiggered if it don't make good reading. Cheers, lads.
"You don't truly think that's where he was going with th by DocPazuzu	Aug 16th, 2005 03:52:34 AM
Oh, that's EXACTLY where he was going with it, Ill Clinton.
Lando by Man-in-the-Box	Aug 16th, 2005 03:56:20 AM
Thanks a pantload for making conservatives look like intollerant assholes. I hope that you see the error of your ways when you grow up. I can see people being passionate about politics, but what you are is just angry. When you realise that it's really none of your business what others do with their bodies in the privacy of their own homes, you'll be a lot better off. You speak of liberals hypocricy because they think they know what's best for you, does anybody else see the irony there? I don't get into politics in here due to improper time and place, but I'm getting pretty damn tired of defending my conservative views due to the radical rantings of people like you. I have no doubt that you have good intentions, and that you belive the crap you espouse, but you need to take a step back and look at yourself. If your actions are those of a hypocrite, people won't take you seriously, when you point out the hypocricy of others. Do you see what I'm getting at. It comes down to live and let live.
Hmmmmm by Ill Clinton	Aug 16th, 2005 03:58:57 AM
Well I could be wrong (been known to happen), but my guess is that he thought it unlikely that a gay man would embrace the teachings of the catholic church, which unequivocally disapoves of homosexuality. Guess we'll have to wait for confirmation on that one. You outside the US by any chance?
Man In Box, Lando Is NOT A Hypocrite by Ill Clinton	Aug 16th, 2005 04:01:33 AM
Lando is an appeaser!
Ill by DocPazuzu	Aug 16th, 2005 04:13:44 AM
Johnno's quote was: "It might still be possible for gay people to become priests and live celibately and accept the Church's teachings, but I'd say such men would be exceedingly rare."..... To me that sounds like he believes homosexuals have a harder time curbing their urges than heterosexuals. And yes, I am at this particular period of time outside of the U.S.
Anchorite is Tom Cruise... by Pacino86845	Aug 16th, 2005 04:23:56 AM
Tom Cruise is Anchorite!!! "You don't know about psychology, I know about psychology, I did the research!" "You don't know about overpopulation and famine, I know about overpopulation and famine, I did the research!"
Pacino86845.... by DocPazuzu	Aug 16th, 2005 04:27:51 AM
Pacino86845, Pacino86845, Pacino86845.... you're being glib.
Doc by Ill Clinton	Aug 16th, 2005 04:31:54 AM
See, you focused on the live celibately part, and I focused on the accept the church's teaching part. The reason I asked if you were outside the US, is there's currently a shitstorm on the issue of gay clergy, regarding ordinations and such. I think the lutherans are next at bat. So I may have factored that in to my frame of reference and assumed he was too.
Ill by DocPazuzu	Aug 16th, 2005 04:39:52 AM
Well, we won't know for sure until Johnno tears himself away from his internet porn and deigns to reply. I expect a lengthy reply filled with analogies about brave little toasters and trimming hedges with nailclippers before the opaque answer is delivered.
IF YOU DISLIKE OR HATE GAYS YOU ARE EITHER BIGOTTED OR STUPID. I by Cameron1	Aug 16th, 2005 06:42:15 AM

What If You Hate Peanuts? by Diana Rules!	Aug 16th, 2005 06:55:38 AM
I'd argue the same holds true.
Yeah, Liberals suck. by cookylamoo	Aug 16th, 2005 07:33:33 AM
We should all go home and leave you to the tender mercies of the Bush adminstation. Maybe we will after the next election and give the conservatives a two thirds majority. Then they can pass whatever screwy, religious based laws they want, plus hand over the rest of your money to multinational corporations. But you'll be happy because you'll be able to rag on fags, jews and blacks. You'll be poor in pocket but rich in hate.
allergies, you nit by BurlIvesLeftNut	Aug 16th, 2005 07:43:36 AM
You stopped being funny (even to yourself) sometime around Aquafag III. And to the dolt who ius wondering whether homosexuals can embrace a faith that objects to their lifestyle? How fucking dumb are you? This whole debate started because someone brought up gay Catholic priests. I know quite a few of them... they are not pedophiles, and they are GREAT ministers. Of course, they are being smart and not living celibate lives. It's apparent you know nothing about faith if you would ask a question like that.
It the celibacy that twist a priest, or nuns psyche to become a by Cameron1	Aug 16th, 2005 07:52:28 AM

This talkback is 330 posts long, almost all of which are besides by FluffyUnbound	Aug 16th, 2005 08:36:05 AM
Isn't the question here not a philosophical one ["Is it OK to be gay"] but a purely practical one ["Can a joke with the word 'fag' in it be legitimately funny"]? It seems that people are under the impression that the fact that homosexuals have been historically mistreated makes it outside the realm of possibility that the word "fag" can ever be part of a joke. And that's just extraordinarily priggish and philistine. Jokes about the space shuttle blowing up can be funny. Jokes about not finding WMD in Iraq can be funny. [You don't often do anything right, Mr. President, but I definitely chuckled at your little joke.] And yes, jokes about a movie website owner getting mad at Vince and threatening to write articles about how he's an Aquafag can be funny. It's just that simple. And, since someone above asked if that meant that the words "nigger" and "kike" can be funny, I would suggest watching BLAZING SADDLES. Mel Brooks certainly made them funny. None of this means that gays should be in camps or that black people are inferior or that the Jews have a secret conspiracy to take over the world, or any of the other things some people seem to want to insist that having a sense of humor implies. It just means that a well set-up joke is funny, even when it's a little mean. If it wasn't for mean or cruel humor there would be almost no humor at all.
Fluffy you are just wrong wrong wron by Cameron1	Aug 16th, 2005 09:00:34 AM
This TB is 584 posts long. The rest was spot on though.
But for a joke to be funny it must contain an element of truth. by cookylamoo	Aug 16th, 2005 09:29:29 AM
A joke about a drunken Irishman can be funny because, as a people, they have a reputation for taking strong drink. A joke about a drunken Frenchman isn't funny because they have a reputation for holding their liquior. The Aquaman joke is not funny because it basically states that unless you have really great super-powers, you are someone who is only fit to perform oral intercourse on your betters. By that criteria, Batman would be the biggest fag of all. This whole you're smaller and weaker than I am so you can blow me, is pretty gay in of itself and really has no place outside of Oz.
warrior-poet by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 16th, 2005 09:34:40 AM
That was great! Thanks for showing us the extent of your language ability. You are so pathetitc and it makes you hilarious. Now if I could only meet you in person to spank your little bottom!
Bwa-HA-ha-HA-HA! by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 16th, 2005 09:36:32 AM
Sorry, "warrior-poet," that's just your screen name making me break out into laughter again. I think that your homophobia is just self-hate. Especially with a screen name like that!
revisions to the "biggest assholes on the talkback list" by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 16th, 2005 09:43:19 AM
Well, we obviously have to add MrCere to the list, just above Diana Rules! Then we have to add Ill Clinton, if for no other reason than being a complete shill for The Man. This is probably one of the sites where Dubya plants people, because he knows that he only has influence over the incredibly stupid. I mean, c'mon, if you fucking retards went to an actual news site (and not one about comic books and movies) you would get your ass even more laughed at than it's getting here. You're small fish in a small pond (with small penii). Bwah-ha-HA-HA!! Sorry, I was just thinking about "warrior-poet" again. That shit is funny!
Don't Blame Me by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 16th, 2005 09:44:30 AM
I voted for Jar Jar Binks! I wanted a smarter president!
why should even he have to change his post anyway by xphyle	Aug 16th, 2005 09:44:55 AM
I got the joke (of course I watch entourage) Its his site IF YOU DONT LIKE WHAT HE SAYS GO SOMEPLACE ELSE! And being gay is not the same as being black. so please stop with the comparison. If the right wing conservatives suddenly made homosexuality punished by death every homosexual could (and would) pretend to be straight. If those same right wing conservatives said the same thing about blacks what would happen? homosexuality is a choice being black isnt. Yet homosexuals are mirroring there struggle after the civil rights movement, going to small gay friendly towns and cities and winning small court cases and building on the precedence set by them in subsequent cases. Is it it me or do homosexuals want to be seen as entire different race of people? Korean American, Black American White American Gay American???
"Thanks a pantload for making conservatives look like intolleran by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 16th, 2005 09:46:46 AM
Oh, you don't need Landoasskissian's help for that one. You guys do a great job without him. Assholes.
"If the right wing conservatives suddenly made homosexuality pun by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 16th, 2005 09:50:27 AM
Alright! You made the list! Actually black people had something like this... It's called "passing." It was for blacks whose skin was light enough to look white. But you wouldn't know that--Because you don't know much of anything. You're a republican douchebag! I guess if you retards knew some history, you wouldn't be republicans in the first place.
FluffyUnbound by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 16th, 2005 09:53:47 AM
You're an asshole in the talkbacks? What a surprise. No change there. Mel Brookes can say "kike" because he's a jew. You're just some asshole, and so is Harry. You see, what you republican, frat boy, business majors never managed to learn in school was that CONTEXT is everything. Puzzle on that one for a while, you dimwit.
a lot of blacks couldnt pass by xphyle	Aug 16th, 2005 09:53:53 AM
the ones that could were in a very small minority...and you totally missed the point...and why are you assuming I am a republican?
"What If You Hate Peanuts?" by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 16th, 2005 09:55:15 AM
Then you're just a stupid cunt with nothing left to say.
xphyle by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 16th, 2005 09:56:51 AM
I assume you're a republican because you're such a know-nothing asshole. I didn't miss the point. It is you who will obviously continue to miss the point for the rest of your life.
Hmm,when will it end... by The True Priapic	Aug 16th, 2005 09:57:09 AM
..I kind of agre with the 'you're born gay' ideal but at what point are we born one way and when does experience and learning make us change?I mean,am I born with a penchant for blondes?Am I born liking Spidey to Superman?Is a serial killer born that way,has it 'in him' from birth?Where does ones own psyche start making choices for itself?Surely its reasonable to say the mating need is inherent in all animals but at what point is attraction based on the senses such as sight?I have plenty of gay friends and most of them can't stand the 'fag'gy types and find them amusing and laughable.It's like that comic said "When they went on a march to lower the age of consent for legal gay sex,it was old men on the march.Where were all the mothers of unfucked 12 year old boys screaming 'Let my son do what he wants with his asshole'.Where were all the 16 year boys shouting 'Let me blow old men when and where I want!'.It was all old men with a penchant for boys."
Why is it that by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 16th, 2005 09:58:33 AM
...everytime you point out to a republican that they've said something incredibly stupid, they say "You're missing the point!" No, I'm not. The point IS that you're a total asshole. That IS the point.
The True Priapic by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 16th, 2005 10:00:38 AM
Thanks for weighing in! You'll be happy to know that you made the list. That is the ultimate goal of any republican right? To have everybody think they're an asshole?
Cameron1 by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 16th, 2005 10:04:09 AM
You make the list just for your agreement with FluffyUnbound. Of course, you're very low on the list right now and you'll have to be a MUCH bigger asshole to move up past some of these republicans. But, c'mon! I know you can do it if you try. Give it a shot! Everybody is waiting to hate you.
Are you FAGGOTS still talking? by El Borak	Aug 16th, 2005 10:06:58 AM

Landoasskissian by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 16th, 2005 10:07:06 AM
Someday, when you lose your virginity, your tiny, closed-minded views may begin to change. Aw, who'm I kiddin'? You're never gonna get laid in a million years!
Yes, context is everything. by FluffyUnbound	Aug 16th, 2005 10:08:46 AM
Mel Brooks isn't Chinese or black, but in the context of his film, when he has Slim Pickens say, "Dock that chink a day's pay for sleeping on the job," it's funny. When he has Slim Pickens' little henchman say, "Boss, would it make you feel better if me and the boys was to kill that nigger dead?" it's funny. Brooks thus demonstrates that not only can a joke containing the word "nigger" be funny, a joke containing the word "nigger" and also vaguely referencing the concept of lynching can be funny. And if lynching can be funny, ANYTHING can be funny. As you say, context matters. The context in Brooks' film is, broadly, an attempt to be funny by being outrageous and offensive. The context in Harry's case is to be funny by being self-referential, and by referring to a currently popular television show that employed a character based on Harry. It is actually the people who are angry at Harry who have no grasp of context, since THEY ARE THE ONES arguing that the use of the word "fag" is always and everywhere unacceptable, regardless of how or why it is used, and regardless of the intent of the usage. Yeah, that attitude demonstrates a real subtlety and an advanced grasp of context. Right? And by the way, to leave all of this somewhat precise argumentation aside for a while, I guess I should stop and also say: Fuck em if they can't take a joke. If I laugh at a joke, that makes it funny, and hurt feelings on the part of some nobody from nowhere don't matter. In the immortal words of Homer Simpson, "It's funny, 'cause I don't know him!" Too true.
El Borak by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 16th, 2005 10:09:03 AM
OK, OK... a pretty weak attempt... just a subject line... but we'll let you on the list of republican assholes who will never get laid. But you're at the bottom, next to Diana Rules! until you shape up and really give us something.
actually... by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 16th, 2005 10:15:21 AM
What Homer said was "It's funny because it's not me!" Now, on to your misunderstanding of Blazing Saddles. The movie was made by a jew, starring black and asian actors who were in it of their own volition. There's your context. Also, I don't understand how "Aquafag" is SELF-referential, unless Harry is gay himself. I do understand though how it's a reference to a TV show that hardly anyone has seen, as if that were an excuse. It's the same as if Harry posted "Brian Singer to make SUPERNIGGER!" and then said that it's OK because he's just referencing a Richard Pryor album. FluffyUnbound, you are, once again, a completely retarded douchebag. Enjoy your fate!
Plenty of Black People are Homophobes by cookylamoo	Aug 16th, 2005 10:17:59 AM
If you a piss a black person off the most likely thing he's going to call you is "faggot". Despite this, gay blacks are some of the biggest queens out there. It's a sad fact, boys and girls, that you can't really argue with what turns you on. If a twelve year old girl makes you stiff, you can spend your entire life denying it, but there's not a shrink on earth who can change it. Sexual deviance is simply that...deviance from the "norm" which Kinsey proved isn't all that normal to begin with. Christians equate sexual deviance with good and evil, but in any population you're going to find some people who like all sorts of weird stuff. Lot's of women fantasize about being raped, lots of men have violent fantasices about women. So far, you can't be put in jail for what you're thinking, however the conservatives are working on it.
Not to nitpick, Fluffy... by DocPazuzu	Aug 16th, 2005 10:19:02 AM
...but that line was spoken by Burton Gilliam, one of the greatest rednecks of American cinema - along with Slim Pickens, of course.
El Borak by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 16th, 2005 10:19:15 AM
It must be taking you a really long time to think of something to type (thinking's hard for you, I'm sure), but give it a shot! C'mon! I know you can do it! Copy one of warrior-poet's old posts or something... They have lots of single syllable words in them.
DocPazuzu! by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 16th, 2005 10:21:39 AM
You're back! Gonna try for a higher position on the list? My guess is that you can do it. You're definitely a big enough asshole! C'mon "trounce" me! Hah!
my 2 cents by El Borak	Aug 16th, 2005 10:27:10 AM
sorry i can't read the board for some reason... anyway i can't believe people are getting so serious and ultra-political on an aicn talkback! is it the end of the world or something?!? anway here's my contribution... cracker wigger honky spic nigger wop mic ginny raghead camel-jockey ass-jockey porch-monkey ass-monkey desert-monkey couch-munky bull-dike fat-ass pan-faced-eskimo greasy-back-mexican drunk-irishmen drunk-scotsmen white-trash-redneck commie-pinko-tree-hugging-hipp ie kraut charlie froggy pollock fuckistan sherpa island-dweller sasquatch illegal-immigrant dingo
"but that line was spoken by Burton Gilliam, one of the greatest by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 16th, 2005 10:27:25 AM
Looks like DocPazuzu learned to use Google. Congrats, Doc!
That was a different episode. by FluffyUnbound	Aug 16th, 2005 10:27:37 AM
My quote comes from the episode where Homer is watching a driver's ed film about car crashes, and laughing at it. After googling it I even found you an audiocap of the line here: http://www.the-ocean.com/simps ons/homer.html But both lines would equally apply, so why quibble? And the fact that you define the context of BLAZING SADDLES differently than I do is absolutely irrelevant. Anything other than a complete denunciation of the film on your part constitutes an admission that, in some contexts [subject to definition] it can be funny to use the words "nigger" and "kike". That implies that, in some contexts [subject to definition] the use of the word "fag" can be funny. So now the disagreement has been reduced to an argument over which contexts, exactly, make these usages acceptable. This is surely a matter over which reasonable people can disagree, since I seriously doubt you could even find universal agreement among members of the "aggrieved" groups on what contexts are and aren't OK. If gays, blacks, and Jews can't even decide among themselves when it is and is not acceptable to use the word "fag", "nigger", or "kike" in a joke, why would you expect agreement here? And as for my "fate", well, at least I can rest easy in the knowledge that I don't sit around and get worried and upset at the idea that someone, somewhere, might be enjoying a laugh at my expense. That must really suck as a "fate", too.
your 2 cents by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 16th, 2005 10:30:39 AM
Y'know, El Borak, you're dropping down to the bottom of the list with weak posts like that. Right now you're tied for last place with Diana Rules! But, I'm sure that is your entire 2 cents. You strike me as a man of few words who has very little to say.
I never said anything about it being unacceptable in any context by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 16th, 2005 10:36:02 AM
In fact, if you can remember that far back, I'm the one who BROUGHT UP CONTEXT IN THE DISCUSSION. Jesus, you're retarded. Also, I notice how you completely avoided addressing my query as to how "Aquafag" could be SELF-referential for Harry. But, I guess if you just ignore everything that doesn't fit into your myopic world view, it's pretty easy to be a douchebag republican. I'll move you up ONE slot on the list for that post, but that's it. You have to do better next time. I love Lenny Bruce, rap music, and Blazing Saddles.
"'Christians equate sexual deviance with good and evil... by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 16th, 2005 10:39:47 AM
Yeah, so because there's somebody worse than you, that means you're not bad at all. It's like all the neo-nazis who claim that hitler wasn't a bad guy because Mussolini killed more people. I would personally rather have Charles Manson running the country than Dubya. He's killed less people.
Jar jar.. by The True Priapic	Aug 16th, 2005 10:41:21 AM
..I've never been called a republican or right wing!Wow.Can I just add....typing up as many posts as you have in the last hour is..and this is off topic,thank god...but it's really sad.You're just grenade throwing to make a name.Sorry state to be in.Bye.Oh,and Blazing Saddles is fucking hilarious.
"I'm not good enough to make your list Jar Jar." by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 16th, 2005 10:42:10 AM
You underestimate yourself. I have you at first place on the list of republican assholes who will never get laid. The only reason that you beat out Landoasskissian is VOLUME. You're a more prolific asshole. Congrats on never-ending virginity.
GOOD TIMES by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 16th, 2005 10:43:32 AM
I just thought I point that out before Doc Pazuzu "had a cow" (Simpsons).
warrior-poet by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 16th, 2005 10:45:38 AM
Yeah, too bad you aren't here to beat my ass, because you're certainly in a battle of wits unarmed. When all you have is words you're gonna LOSE, LOSE, LOSE! That's because you're a fucking loser. Which is probably why you've never been laid.
The True Priapic by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 16th, 2005 10:48:54 AM
Sounds like sour grapes to me. You and warrior-poet [BWA-HA-HA-HA-HA... sorry, I can't help it] should get together and have sex, because it's probably the only way that either of you ever will. Once again, I only assumed you were a republican because you're such an asshole.
"it keeps on truckin'." by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 16th, 2005 10:49:55 AM
Which has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that you keep posting. Retard.
Well, Jar Jar, you dope by FluffyUnbound	Aug 16th, 2005 10:52:09 AM
If you don't think the usage is unacceptable in any context, you should have had absolutely no objection to my initial post, since anyone with any reading comprehension could discern that it wasn't about you. Although I suspect that it is, and you are merely changing your tune now that you have been completely owned. My initial post pointed out that the proper question for this talkback is, "Can a joke with the word 'fag' in it be legitimately funny?" You decided that asking that question required you to attack. Now, you have decided that it is, in fact, YOUR position that, in some contexts, apparently it can. That being the case, why did you want to argue? You feebly offered the argument that Mel Brooks could tell jokes about Jews because he was a Jew, despite the fact that he also told jokes about blacks, Chinese, the Irish, German dancehall performers, and just about everyone else - so that's not an argument. And I didn't bother to answer your question about how Harry's usage could be self-referential because the answer is so obvious that answering it is tiring and tedious. Since you seem to be a little slow, though, I'll answer it: if a television show inserts a character based on Harry, and Harry tells a joke referring to that character's statements or actions on the show, Harry's joke is simultaneously referential of the show, and self-referential. Harry's joke, by bringing up a joke told about Harry, includes that joke.
I'm too old for this shit. by The True Priapic	Aug 16th, 2005 10:57:49 AM

Jar Jarm you total, complete and utter fucking asshat. by Cameron1	Aug 16th, 2005 10:58:17 AM
If you had bothered to read any other post I've made on this TB you would have seen that not only am I not a republican or rightwing in anyway but also have that I have been denouncing hate speech and bigotted bullshit throughout the TB. Your not concerned with whether aquafag is offensive to gay people (it's not apparently, but you can argue with the 4 gay men where I work) you just want to bitch and moan like a whiny fucking pussy. For Godssake man I was practically on your side here. But your stupidity and incredibly oversensitive response to a self referential joke that is actually more offensive to Harry than anyone else just lost you the support of every pretty much everyone. Fuck me lando actually made a good point about "liberal" infighting becaue of you. Way to go and give that fuckwad some credibility jarjar.
I've read every post so far, and I think this quote sums it by swinky	Aug 16th, 2005 10:59:56 AM
"Luke, you're going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view." Of course, therein lies the rub: You have a 0.00001% chance of changing someone else's point of view. I know I'm breaking TB tenets by not using this post to actively insult any particular individual or demographic, but try not to flame me too much!
"a television show inserts a character based on Harry" by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 16th, 2005 11:02:10 AM
I had no idea a character based on Harry was on the show. Which strengthens my point, not weakens it. THE VAST MAJORITY of people have never seen the show and don't know either. The context isn't the "Entourage" boards on the HBO site, but an Aquaman article on AICN. Even though we don't totally disagree, you're still an asshole.
"Retard's acceptable, but Fag isn't. I love this planet. by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 16th, 2005 11:04:36 AM
At least you're not a total fucking hypocrite.
knowthyself by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 16th, 2005 11:06:06 AM
I suppose that you know you're a complete and total moron, then?
Jar Jar's schtick... by DocPazuzu	Aug 16th, 2005 11:08:36 AM
...was old even when he was known as ForeverTJ and Powermetal1. He's merely gone from being an extreme right-wing troller to a left-wing ditto. Welcome to Scorched Planet.
Speaking of Entourage... (nudge, nudge, wink, wink) by swinky	Aug 16th, 2005 11:10:33 AM
Where do you think this storyline is going? Will Vince ever make Aquaman, or will he blow it? On a slightly tangential note, has anyone seen those "lost Entourage screen tests" on HBO on-demand? Pat Morita saying "I don't pay for pussy" is just fucking hilarious!
jar jar your bullshit is the reason the average liberal or democ by Cameron1	Aug 16th, 2005 11:12:54 AM
well that and talkradio anyway. Seriously mate, have a sense of humour. pretty much ANYTHING can be funny if done corrrectly.
No Pazuzu, Landoasskiss was Powermetal1 by Cameron1	Aug 16th, 2005 11:16:36 AM
Unless lando is trying a different tack. Which he probably is. Good move lando if it is you. You had me going for about an hour.
"lando actually made a good point about "liberal" infighting bec by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 16th, 2005 11:16:43 AM
...and now, because of you too, Cameron1. I can't be bothered to read every word of every post. It gets in the way of hating republican twats like yourself.
anchorite by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 16th, 2005 11:19:55 AM
If you said it, then yes, you were right (however briefly). Even a blind squirrel finds a nut now and then. Rest assured that you're wrong about everything else, though. Because you're a republican jerk-off.
ONLY COMPLETE IDIOTS LIKE ILL CLINTON, ANCHORITE AND DOCPASUZU W by bushsux	Aug 16th, 2005 11:20:57 AM
Seriously, why would a man choose to reject all the beautiful women in the world, the Catherine Zeta-Joneses and Halle Berry's, to have butt sex with another disgusting man and be attacked by the ignorant folk like you? Scientific studies have already shown homosexuality to be something people are born as. It's a pretty simple decision. Do I have sex with beautiful women for all my life or Do I get ridiculed, bashed and legislated against by silly conservatives and ignoramuses? Here's the best part about this whole debate. Those people who stick up for gay people, like me, will often be accused of being gay. I couldn't care less though, unlike most conservatives, I'm secure with my manhood. It's easy to see why someone like Rush Limbaugh, a fat piece of crap who dodged Vietnam, would be insecure about his manhood and need to bash gays.
I would just like to point out... by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 16th, 2005 11:22:05 AM
that nobody has guessed my ACTUAL previous talkback name yet. I'll even let you know if you get it right. Keep trying.
Well no jar jar, you are the fuckstick who's being a twat. I by Cameron1	Aug 16th, 2005 11:22:54 AM
But hell what am I talking about your lando anyway. Oh and anchorite et al I'm one of you now apparently because I disagree with what that dumbass says. Looks like everyone just shifted 10 steps to the right thanks to jamjar. Must be lonely for you over on planet "incredibly stupid sensitive dicks looking for an argument"
ANCHORITE, THE WORD "FAG" COMES FROM THE BRITISH AND INDIAN WORD by bushsux	Aug 16th, 2005 11:24:36 AM
"Faggots" was an old British term for cigarettes. Are you ever right about anything?
hey hey, its ass2mouthgirl isn't it jar jar? by Cameron1	Aug 16th, 2005 11:24:58 AM

Looking forward to the end of summer break... by swinky	Aug 16th, 2005 11:26:21 AM
so some of the TB "posters" will be back in school during the day! I swear, this reminds me of when AOL let all their users have access to UseNet! Talk about your old-school flaming!
bushsux by DocPazuzu	Aug 16th, 2005 11:26:26 AM
You utter jackass. If you had actually read my posts, you would have seen that I defend gay rights and am also of the conviction that homosexuality is something you're born with. You stupid, stupid fucker.
Cameron1 by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 16th, 2005 11:29:39 AM
How's things on planet "I'm-a-moronic-republican- cunt-that-thinks-I'm-liber al?" Or maybe you're on planet "I-don't-know-the-differen ce-between-your-and-you're ." Here's a hint: One is a contraction of "You are." Try to figure out which one before you post again. You calling me stupid and then making one of THE stupidest mistakes in grammar--That's what we in the business call "irony." Look that one up if you have to. DocPazuzu can teach you how to use Google.
"nobody has guessed my ACTUAL previous talkback name yet" by DocPazuzu	Aug 16th, 2005 11:29:42 AM
Nice try, ForeverTJ/Powermetal1/JarJar. There are certain terms you use which give you away every single time.
No Cameron1... by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 16th, 2005 11:31:05 AM
ass2mouthgirl is DocPazuzu's mom. Looks like I'm not the only one who doesn't read every word of every post.
Keep guessing, DocPazuzu! by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 16th, 2005 11:34:27 AM
You ignorant slut.
WWW.IGNORANT_REPUBLICAN_VIRGINS. COM by bushsux	Aug 16th, 2005 11:41:45 AM
That should be the new url for this site because that's all we hear now. Two or three useless Limbaugh drones post and post away. It's funny how they always accuse liberals of being senstive, yet if you criticize them all you hear is this whining and crying. By the way Cameron1, "your mom" jokes are for 12 year old boys living in 1991.
Ya'll know that one joke about how arguing on the Internet by swinky	Aug 16th, 2005 11:45:58 AM
is like competing in the Special Olympics? I'm not gonna feed you the punchline, go look it up yourselves. After you're done, ask yourself why you're still bitching and whining at each other over the specific arrangement of the letters A, F, & G.
Hahahaha, jamjar did you just use the poor grammar argument on m by Cameron1	Aug 16th, 2005 11:50:16 AM
Oh man you are clutching at straws. What I did was called an error, you know the things that make us human. Now errors don't make you stupid. Einstein was an atrocious speller and was even bad at maths. Spelling and grammar are not questions of intelligence they are questions of remembering things learned by rote. Now we all make the odd mistake but it doesn't mean we are stupid. Idiot savants can have excellent grammar, so I guess we know why your grammar and spelling is so good. Ok so you think I am a republican. Why? If you can tell me how you managed to figure that from any of my posts then go for it. Seriously buddy you are going to be so fucking owned if you try and argue with me about it. This is fucking hilarious, you aren't liberal or republican or commie or facist, you are a fucking loon. A fucking LOON._____________ Doc Pazuzu seriously landoasskiss is powermetal1, if he was here he might even back me up.
bushsux 2 by DocPazuzu	Aug 16th, 2005 11:52:42 AM
You're so fucking stupid that you not only misinterpreted every single one of my posts, you also can't attribute the "mom jokes" to the right person.
er bushsux, when did I make a "mom" joke? by Cameron1	Aug 16th, 2005 11:54:32 AM

"Doc Pazuzu seriously landoasskiss is powermetal1" by DocPazuzu	Aug 16th, 2005 11:56:08 AM
One of ForeverTJ/Powermetal1's favorite boasts was his vast array of usernames lined up for AICN. Landoasskiss may very well be ForeverTJ/Powermetal1, but so is JamJar - there is no doubt about it.
So I'm a republican who disagreed about Iraq, believes in so by Cameron1	Aug 16th, 2005 12:00:25 PM
I think bush should be investigated with all the voracity that clinton was. I believe in human rights, in getting rid of the patriot act, that Karl Rove should probably be burnt alive (but thats just a personal one). So, DocPazuzu, Anchorite, Ill Clinton and Lando, apprarently I'm on your side because at laugh at post modern jokes. Where do I sign up for you guys? JAR JAR you fucking tool you have just been owned. Hell you just got PWNED!!! LOL
so jamjar/lando/powermetal1 set up loads of extra email accounts by Cameron1	Aug 16th, 2005 12:04:18 PM
Holy Fuck. That is the the funniest thing I've ever read in these things. Oh man how fucking wonderfully pathetic. Well I'll be smiling all day now. Goodbye all.
R.C.'s opinion: Looks like I'm going to have to straigh by R.C. the "Wise"	Aug 16th, 2005 12:12:01 PM
Look, Harry's post was a joke. Perhaps it was in poor taste but he was only attempting to do so in the "spirit" of the character that was psuedo-based on him. So LIGHTEN UP! Harry couldn't be any more liberal minded so don't take offense to his pathetic attempt at humor. Hopefully, after seeing the amount of post on this particular chat topic he'll realize that he should stop all attempts at humor and concentrate on getting his fanbase.
WHEN YOU GENTLEMAN SEE "THE EVIL FUCKING BASTARD ROOM" BEING CAL by TonyWilson	Aug 16th, 2005 12:19:47 PM
IT'S COMIN. IT'S COMING I TELLS YA!
R.C's opinion II: Man there sure is a strong homophobic sen by R.C. the "Wise"	Aug 16th, 2005 12:20:09 PM
Still, I'm guilty of using the fag word a bit too loosly. Like when I read post from Landoasskissian, I Dunno, and Moviemack. I always think "Man, what a bunch of FAGS!" Hahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaa!!!
Where do you think this storyline is going? Will Vince ever make by cookylamoo	Aug 16th, 2005 12:43:48 PM
No but remembering their brief high school romance Vince will smoke Eric's pole just for old time's sake. Meanwhile, Drama and Turtle will realize that "crossing swords" was kind of fun and agree to cross swords again soon. Finally, the ghost of Captain Kirk will take bloody revenge on Malcolm McDowell.
Is there an upper limit on TB posts? by swinky	Aug 16th, 2005 12:59:47 PM
If there is, I promise to do everything I can to get us there ASAP and end this bitchy little slapfight! I swear, this shit is starting to piss me off, and I haven't been mad in weeks since I started taking the Z happy pills!
Just for the record, I am honored by MrCere	Aug 16th, 2005 01:57:07 PM
I was named to Jar Jar's list of top assholes. I didn't talk politics and will not, I simply made a few subtle observations and a grammatical error. Swinky, your heart is in the right place but you CANNOT save this talk back. I think the HBO show is great and will watch it again, even if it slammed Comic-Con nerds.
When did Republican by Quin the Eskimo	Aug 16th, 2005 02:12:31 PM
become a euphamism for words like racist, homophobe, idiot, etc?
God wants you to have non-procreative sex... by Clarence Worely	Aug 16th, 2005 02:17:04 PM
Up until now I found myself rallying behind Johnno, Docpazuzu and Ill Clinton. Not because I necessarily agree with any one of them, but at least they present their arguments (for the most part) without resorting to cheap middle school flameouts. Johnno, I feel I should point out that I don't agree with you at all, but I respect your spiritual convictions and the fact that you also didn't lower yourself to spewing hate and profanity. As far as the use of the term fag, I understand the arguments against using derogatory epitaphs in humor so as not to condone desensitization and the acceptance of bigotry, but humor is all about knocking people off their high horses. Use of profanity, racial epitaphs and describing sexual deviancy are ways to get under the skin of the uptight and politically correct and, at the same time, make fun of the idiots that use/take those terms and subjects seriously. I would argue that the use of racial and bigoted epitaphs in the 70s TV show, All In The Family, helped break down barriers by exposing the ignorance of bigots and getting people to grow more tolerant of those around them. People should learn to not take themselves so damned seriously. Lighten up, for Christ
The fight over Priest celibacy was already fought by Quin the Eskimo	Aug 16th, 2005 02:23:19 PM
October 31, 1517 like a mo-fo! And anyone who chooses a name like Jar-Jar is begging not to be taken seriously.
When did Republican become become a euphamism for words like rac by cookylamoo	Aug 16th, 2005 02:24:11 PM
When people like Strom Thurmond started sleeping on your side of the gallery.
BEST QUOTE ON THE TB.... by Clarence Worely	Aug 16th, 2005 02:25:38 PM
Goes to the Doc for "putting the blame on others for your lack of familiarity with the show is stupid and counter-productive. It reeks of a baying for figurative blood, no matter what, and by its pettiness and ignorance it consequently diminishes cases of real bigotry and the use of the offending term in question." Well said Doc, well said.
I'm sorry cookylamoo by Quin the Eskimo	Aug 16th, 2005 02:31:50 PM
that Grand-Dragon to my left started talking nonsence again. Sit down Robert Bird Senior Democrat Senator of West Virginia. Sure you want to go there? Wallace, Gore Sr... By the way the dude is dead. Let let him RIP
chardday by neoroosta	Aug 16th, 2005 02:31:58 PM
goddamnit. i didn't want to post on this. i was just reading it for laughs, but who the fuck are you to claim words? if someone calls you a deroggatory name, you get to keep that word? fuck you. if everyone banned others from using words movies, books, music, etc. would be a lot less funny/poignant. fuck you again, you ignorant fucking human.
Thanks for the kind words MrCere, but by swinky	Aug 16th, 2005 02:47:12 PM
I don't want to save this TB, I just want it to end! That's why I hope there's an upper limit of posts per TB. This is like one of those road trips from hell where there's a problem every ten miles!
I know Thurmond is dead. And the world is a better place. by cookylamoo	Aug 16th, 2005 02:59:01 PM
But just because you dress up racist and homophobic legislation doesn't fool anyone. The "defense of marriage act" is still the "deny gays their rights act" no matter what you call it. Doing away with aid to minorities is passive racism and the only solution Republicans have to civil rights issues is to build more prisons. Republicans are good at taking a goat and calling it a sheep but the intent is still the same.
Clarence Worely by DocPazuzu	Aug 16th, 2005 03:08:40 PM
As much as I've enjoyed baiting Johnno and poking holes in some of his views, it certainly seems quite pedestrian compared to your biblical homework on the subject. I'm much more interested in seeing how Johnno will/would respond to your post than mine at this point. Kudos.
I've only had 1 previous talkback name. by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 16th, 2005 03:09:48 PM
It was banned. Now I'm back with a different one. Nobody has guessed it yet. DocPazuzu is, not suprisingly, full of shit.
"DocPazuzu is, not suprisingly, full of shit." by DocPazuzu	Aug 16th, 2005 03:13:22 PM
Whatever you say, TJ...
"Hell you just got PWNED!!!" by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 16th, 2005 03:13:59 PM
That's right, I just got PWNED. Fine, you're not a republican. It's just a term that is generally synonymous with "asshole." What I meant to say was that you're an asshole. Which is, once again, me stating the obvious on an AICN talkback.
"When did republican become a euphamism for words like racist, h by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 16th, 2005 03:18:55 PM
Uh... Where have you been? Sometime after Lincoln. Maybe you missed this guy named Nixon? Or that one named Reagan? What about the current boy emperor?
DocPazuzu by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 16th, 2005 03:27:56 PM
You certainly deny reality like a republican. I know, I know... You're just a garden variety asshole.
you're kidding right! by Quin the Eskimo	Aug 16th, 2005 03:43:36 PM
Sill man, you've got to be. Reagan was a racist? Nixon was more of a self loathing jerk then anything. He hated everyone. Racist legislation? Please name something. Passive racism. Pu-leeze. The diffence between the Republican Part and the Democrat party is that Republicans don't talk down to the races. They don't say of course you've been wronged..if you vote for me I'll help. Republicans offer hard work as a way of bettering yourself if you were wronged or not, no matter what skin color you are. I'll take the party of articulates ie. Rice, Powell, Thomas and Watts over race baiter like Jackson any day.
Sure, and George Wallace was a Democrat by cookylamoo	Aug 16th, 2005 03:46:28 PM
But where are they all hanging now...huh? (Well, in hell, hopefully) Yeah, we know. We threw them out and they found a new home in the party of Nixon.
And unfortunately hard work with no capital just gets you more h by cookylamoo	Aug 16th, 2005 03:50:20 PM
No, the Republicans don't talk down to the races. In fact, they don't talk to them much at all.
JamJar by Cameron1	Aug 16th, 2005 03:51:07 PM
Why am I an asshole exactly? Because I have well developed sense of humour and irony? Ok then.
OK..cooky your crazed by Quin the Eskimo	Aug 16th, 2005 03:59:40 PM
Powell, Rice, Martinez, Gonzales, Watts, Keyes, Chow. Talk to me when you have something to say. The only minority I can think of in the Clinton administration was Slater, The Transportation Secretary
There may be more by Quin the Eskimo	Aug 16th, 2005 04:00:24 PM
I guess the Democrats just didn't trust them in powerful positions
The way to get capital... by Quin the Eskimo	Aug 16th, 2005 04:03:23 PM
earn it. My grandfather was a penniless emigrant who now owns several LA area homes. He worked hard, saved, built up his houses so there value went up. It's called SWEAT equity.
Quin the Eskimo by Jar Jar 4 Prez	Aug 16th, 2005 04:05:28 PM
You made the list!
Well they do say by Quin the Eskimo	Aug 16th, 2005 04:07:37 PM
you can tell a lot about a man by who his detractors are. If your my detractor then I must be doing something right! Thank you.
So your position is that Blacks haven't advanced is because by cookylamoo	Aug 16th, 2005 04:19:13 PM
Am I reading you right? Well, hey Mr. Bush, I'm sorry. I'm glad you were able to give Powell, Rice, Watts and Keyes some work. But there are a few million other black people who can't seem to raise more than minimum wage. But hey, four is better than none, right. This like when Don Rickles tells racist jokes all night and then brings out his black chauffer and gives him a big warm hug.
Who said anything by Quin the Eskimo	Aug 16th, 2005 04:27:38 PM
specific about blacks. People trapped in a cycle of despair, crime, and poverty need a way out. Education generally, hard work in-particular. It's hard for me to feel sorry for anyone who is poor and thinks they should be rich, and articuclate this at One in the afternoon over Video Games. They could join a Union, after four years as an Electrician Journeyman they'd be making $35-60 per hour. They could be a realator and make 5 percent of a homes buying price. They could apply for fiancial aid and go to school, if there 24 and making minimum wage they'll get Federal Grants. I think lazy people are lazy, no matter if they live in Podunk IL in a single wide or Compton in a run down apartment. Please don't put words in my mouth. I am no racist. If I'm going to put the blame on anyone or anything I'll blame Public High Schools.
By the way by Quin the Eskimo	Aug 16th, 2005 04:28:45 PM
Keyes never worked for W.
I Take A Break And The Talkback Turns To Shit by Ill Clinton	Aug 16th, 2005 04:31:14 PM
What a mess to clean up. Gonna need a second to sort out all the crap here.
"We threw them out and they found a new home in the party of Nix by Ill Clinton	Aug 16th, 2005 04:33:38 PM
Yet you kept Robert Byrd, the klansmen. That pretty much shows the "integrity" of the Democrats.
I'll I'm trying to say by Quin the Eskimo	Aug 16th, 2005 04:35:08 PM
is that the Democratic party infers and acts as if there is some kind of daily meeting of mucky mucks sitting around thinking of ways to make a minorities life easier. There is no such meeting. I and You have to work hard for EVERYTHING, and that life.
My GOD, Where Did Cooky Come From? by Ill Clinton	Aug 16th, 2005 04:37:21 PM
"No, the Republicans don't talk down to the races. In fact, they don't talk to them much at all." This stuff is gold! I've got a lot of catching up to do, so don't have time yet to cut and paste, I'll do it though if you need me to. Guess which president has hired more minorities than any other?
Quinn, these are all programs that are getting cut. by cookylamoo	Aug 16th, 2005 04:38:58 PM
Plus the end result of "No Child left behind" is that money to schools gets cut off, making bad schools even poorer. There is NO money going for training. There is NO money for rehabiliating prisoners. There is NO money for the mentally ill. There is NO money for day care. And guess what, there's still a defecit. That net you believe is out there is full of holes. And Bush won't give the poor anything unless they shout "Praise Jesus" first. Witness his early parole program in Texas for Bible Thumpers only.
Pretty sure cookie by Quin the Eskimo	Aug 16th, 2005 04:39:48 PM
is waiting for the return of the Venusians. It's gotta be them feeding him that information through his tin-foil hat.
Good Stuff Clarence by Ill Clinton	Aug 16th, 2005 04:41:11 PM
The change in forbidding priests to marry came following the schism between east and west. Only Roman rite churches ever had this stipulation. The reason for this was as much temporal as spiritual, unmarried clergy left no heirs usually, and guess who inherited their property? This was at a time when Roman Catholics were looking for ways to increase the material wealth and power of the church.
"There is NO money for the mentally ill." by Ill Clinton	Aug 16th, 2005 04:42:39 PM
So true, so true.
The end result of No Child by Quin the Eskimo	Aug 16th, 2005 04:45:15 PM
is that after failing Federal Tests multiple times, the school district loses control of the school. What's the point of throwing more money at a failing school when it's an institutional problem. Most private schools educate better on about $3500 dollars per student then Public Schools do at 5000+ Also, all new Teachers Aids must at least have an associates.
Dammit, Anchorite Beat Me To Byrd by Ill Clinton	Aug 16th, 2005 04:46:18 PM
Hmmmm, better be a bit more careful. Doc's waiting for me to slip up again. Well you know what they say, a hand for the Byrd is worth two for the Bush, or something like that.
The government could learn a by Quin the Eskimo	Aug 16th, 2005 04:48:40 PM
few things from religious charities, especially how to strertch a dollar. The charities are not based on religion but rather effectivness, and if someone yells out Praise Buddah then gets off drugs gets a job and a life purpose then GOD bless em.
There are corporate and (I believe) individual tax breaks by Quin the Eskimo	Aug 16th, 2005 04:52:25 PM
for those who provide child care. State government generally hadles that issue not the Feds.
bushsux, I NEVER accuse liberals of being sensitive by Ill Clinton	Aug 16th, 2005 05:05:41 PM
I assuse them of being INsensitive. Seperate the wheat from the chaff, please. Liberals are some of the most hate spewing vile vomiting rhetoric slinging vandals currently walking the planet. Don't for forget hypocritical. Exhibit A: Robert Byrd.
I Hate Having To Point Out The Obvious But ... Jar Jar Is Barbar by Ill Clinton	Aug 16th, 2005 05:10:14 PM
Seriously, the rest of you were just prentending to be in the dark, right?
In this Dem/Rep Scotch West Side Story by Quin the Eskimo	Aug 16th, 2005 05:12:11 PM
I'd really like to see what happens to Jim Jeffords.
anchorite by Quin the Eskimo	Aug 16th, 2005 05:13:36 PM
way to resist the obvious ciggerette joke.
Cameron, I Get So Tired Of Saying This by Ill Clinton	Aug 16th, 2005 05:18:59 PM
I'm an independent. Not a Republican, a conservative independent. I realize that for you "Republican" is some kind of insult. It probably is among your friends. Used on anyone else though, it just sounds stupid and seriously damages the credibility about ANY point you might be trying to make. Actually, I really don't get tired of saying this. At some point, in some talkback, Cameron will AGAIN call me a Republican. Read my article on why your party loses elections Cameron, it is in part due to the brilliant outreach programs you have to court the independents, who have decided the last two presidential elections.
sigh by Quin the Eskimo	Aug 16th, 2005 05:24:19 PM
I guess cookie ran away. Hopefully to build some equity.
ill, you miss my point. to score points. very silly. by Cameron1	Aug 16th, 2005 05:26:26 PM
I wasn't commenting on you being a republican, I was taking the piss out of jarjar for being a fuck stick. Because, to jarjar, if I am a republican then you certainly are. And when have I called you a republican before? I don't remember doing it. Democrats aren't my party cus frankly they are a bunch of pussies. Although I do have issues with anyone who votes for a religious zealot. That's just a personal one though.
Well seing as you voted for Bush (althought i'am assuming th by Cameron1	Aug 16th, 2005 05:31:43 PM
Now as for kerry he may have been catholic but he wasn't a zealot like bush is.
So Cameron? by Quin the Eskimo	Aug 16th, 2005 05:37:26 PM
you dislike people with deeply held religious belief? Just asking?
hey bad fucking move by the consultants and spin doctors, know o by Cameron1	Aug 16th, 2005 05:38:16 PM
anyway, I'm not a kerry fan either.
no quin I don't like people with deeply held religious belie by Cameron1	Aug 16th, 2005 05:41:26 PM
I don't like religious zealots in charge of governments.
AHHH. I mean I don't DISLIKE people with deeply held religio by Cameron1	Aug 16th, 2005 05:42:41 PM

Well, aren't you guilty by Quin the Eskimo	Aug 16th, 2005 05:44:17 PM
of the same crime as many religious zealots. Bigotry? I don't want a fight I'm just mildly curious.
Well, that solves that. by Quin the Eskimo	Aug 16th, 2005 05:45:33 PM
Hmmm. We can agree on this. Jar-Jar = Stupid
Quin no I'm not. Like I said I don't dislike people with by Cameron1	Aug 16th, 2005 05:45:43 PM

CAMERON YOU IGNORANT FOOL by Quin the Eskimo	Aug 16th, 2005 05:47:35 PM
Natch...just kidding.
LOL quin by Cameron1	Aug 16th, 2005 05:53:02 PM
and yes jamjar does most certainly = stupid.
A Quote From Cameron, Calling Me A Republican by Ill Clinton	Aug 16th, 2005 06:04:08 PM
"Ill Clinton is a typical Bush loving Republican neo con who hates minorities and wants to kill them all. Plus, he wants to impregnate bare footed women in the kitchen in the name of Jesus while their childred starve. He needs to be taken out back and ass fucked hard. I'd volunteer to do it myself. How does that make you feel Clinton? What? Don't like getting raped in the ass? Just like a typical homophobic Republican."
Goodbye by Quin the Eskimo	Aug 16th, 2005 06:08:00 PM
freinds and fiends
Whoa. by Cameron1	Aug 16th, 2005 06:10:31 PM
I knew republicans were great at disinformation and lies but I didn't think they were that obvious. Heh just kidding ill, but seriously what the hell was that about? Are you having a joke or just plain bullshitting?
I Got It Cameron by Ill Clinton	Aug 16th, 2005 06:10:45 PM
For the THIRD time in this talkback, I seem to be busted doing exactly what is a pet peeve of mine. That is, attributing something to someone that wasn't intended. I got your point on Jar Jar, I'm not ret@rded. However, I did apparently lump you in with some of the other liberals on here. My mistake. It wasn't deliberate to score points though. In my eagerness to re enter the fray I didn't read carefully enough. Shit. That's exactly what I so often accuse liberals of doing. It's not right when they do it, it's inexcusable when I do. My apologies. Don't tell Doc.
Bullshitting? by Ill Clinton	Aug 16th, 2005 06:13:56 PM
Just like a liberal to DENY the truth when busted ... Yeah, I was poking a little fun at myself.
Ok now I'm almost confused. by Cameron1	Aug 16th, 2005 06:19:58 PM
The quote was a joke I assume. Or you thought it was me that said it and were mistaken. Ok cool. Then why say I'm denying the truth? Ah is that a joke? I've had a busy day here. Help me out on this one?
The Quote . . . by Ill Clinton	Aug 16th, 2005 06:25:01 PM
Was indeed a joke. So was the one where I said you denied the truth. I'm getting confused myself.
Ah it's cool I'm with you now. by Cameron1	Aug 16th, 2005 06:28:41 PM
To be honest republicans and democrats are both as bad as each other in my opinion.
This Thread Is Actually Becoming Difficult To Sort Out by Ill Clinton	Aug 16th, 2005 06:29:03 PM
Especially if you're away from it for eight hours and then jump back in. That's what happened to me. I read your post to Jar Jar, and while I did get the point, I mistakenly assumed you were refering to me as a Republican (as has happened with other posters). I hope that clears that up.
On Democrats and Republicans Cameron by Ill Clinton	Aug 16th, 2005 06:31:06 PM
I hardly EVER trust the Republicans, and I don't trust the Democrats AT ALL.
I might have agreed with you 20 years ago Clinton by Cameron1	Aug 16th, 2005 06:37:44 PM
But GW Bush et al have totally made me lose my faith in the integrity of the republicans.
Ten Years Ago The Republicans At Least Acted Like Republicans by Ill Clinton	Aug 16th, 2005 06:44:32 PM
At least in regards to balancing budgets, holding the line on government programs, etc. These days I find it difficult to tell the too apart. Prescription drug coverage, money for AIDS in Africa, etc. The difference is I never HAD faith in the integrity of the Republicans, or 99 percent of any politicians of any stripe for that matter.
Ill Clinton, are you misreading my posts again!?!?! by DocPazuzu	Aug 16th, 2005 06:46:33 PM
I kid, I kid...
Thanks Doc by Ill Clinton	Aug 16th, 2005 06:50:29 PM
Cracked up the minute I saw that.
Guinness by Brit Pop	Aug 16th, 2005 06:51:50 PM
Is there a record for the longest, off-topic, tsunami-esque talkback? Or is it currently being set?
Brit Pop by DocPazuzu	Aug 16th, 2005 07:05:13 PM
Don't know, but it's been one for the history books, that's for sure. From this day forward, no matter what life throws at me, I'll be able to take it with my head held high because I was there. Yeah, that's right, I did my bit - on the front lines in the Great Aquaf@g Talkback. We should all get medals for this fucker - except for JamJar, that is.
It's Cool So Many People Are Supporting This Film by Spooge McDuck	Aug 16th, 2005 07:05:37 PM
Aquaman was never one of my favorite heros, but I like that some of the more obscure ones are getting made into films. It seems like a lot of people will at least see this movie, whether it's good or not. If it makes money we may get to see even more obscure characters like Adam Strange. I think that would make a great movie.
DocPazuzu by Johnno	Aug 16th, 2005 07:19:51 PM
Perhaps the better question is "How many homosexual men will accept Church Teachings that homosexuality is sinful if they want to become Catholic priests?" Another would be, as far as who'll have stronger urges and in light of the sex abuse scandal, "Who would be more likely to sexually abuse an altar boy? Straight men or homosexual men?" The abuse unfortunately not only paints a big blemish on the Church, but has also permanently destroyed any hope for any homosexual men who believe Church teachings and remain celibate of ever becoming a good Catholic Priest.
So My Interpretation Was Right Johnno? by Ill Clinton	Aug 16th, 2005 07:25:16 PM
Owned Doc! I own you! I am absolved of any error I've made misquoting EVAR!
Clarence Worely by Johnno	Aug 16th, 2005 07:26:27 PM
Thank you for your kind words, but now to get this matter settled up. The Bible is clear in its condemnations of homosexual acts as you no doubt know. So when you suppose denying sex to both Catholics and homosexuals amounts to the same, it is irrelevant as the Bible's commandments and laws are harmonioius to each other. Homosexuality is clearly denounced. As for the Bible and the purpose of sex for procreation, firstly, it is obvious that the sexual act leads to conception, before vain attempts to separate the act from the conception came about, humans and animals have always committed this act where the completed end of it resulted in the possibility of a new life being formed. Secondly, note that I am a Catholic, not a Protestant, I am not a 'Sola Scripturist', I also follow Church Tradition, which originates form the teachings of the Jews and the Old Testament where one lamented when they were not blessed with children to the Apostlic Tradition and the Church Fathers who've concluded that marriage and sex is primarily to raise children. This is not to say that you shouldn't have sex when you don't plan on having children, you can if you simply desire to... but merely that you continue to allow the act to have the open-ness to new life by not artificially restricting it or disallowing the acts purpose in any way. The Catholic Church, I believe, is given the power of the Holy Spirit and can sensibly bind rules on Earth that will also be bound in Heaven. Now getting to the Bible, I'm sure you know the oft repeated story of Onan that Catholics use to defend that contraception is wrong. To retell it briefly for you and for anyone reading this, the Law of Moses said that if your brother has a wife and he dies without an heir, then it is the brothers duty to marry her and give her a child who will then be considered the son of the dead man and carry on his name. Onan however didn't want to contribute offspring to his brother, so instead whenever he had sex with her, he didn't ejaculate into her but withdrew and spilt his seed on the ground. As a result, God was offended and took his life. Since then, this passage has always been seen straightforward as Onan being punished for not having sex in the natural way. It would not be until much later, closer to our time that theologians began to argue that this event is not an argument against contraception, but rather because Onan did not follow Moses' law and provide an heir. However, this does not compute... take a look at the Law of Moses (Deut. 25 v5-10) When you read the consequence for breaking the law, you'll find that it does not entail a capital offence (i.e. death, like adultery, homosexuality and beastiality does). If a man refused to fulfil this obligation to his dead brother and the widow, the punishment was a public humiliation, where the widow would strip him of his sandal, spit in his face and tell everyone what he has done. Nowhere near a death sentence. Not only did Onan selfishly have sex with her, he committed a grave sin by spilling his seed on the ground and so God personally killed him. Onan robbed sexual intercourse of its life giving meaning and acted against the good of his potential offspring. It was against life, and so, God took his. Moving on, you're right that the Bible doesn't say priests should refrain from sex. However listen to Paul when he says that it is good not to marry in order to follow God, and for this reason the Catholic Church makes it a DISCIPLINE now, even if they didn't in the past, for its priests not to marry. The Catholic Church however, doesn't stop anyone from marrying (except for homosexuals and anyone else who wants to have sex with non human partners, because the basic idea is that the act MUST allow open-ness to new life through conception). If anyone doesn't want to be celibate then they shouldn't become a priest in the Catholic Church, and if any Catholic priests find they are struggling too much to maintain their celibacy, then, guess what? They are free to leave if they choose! The Church will not look down on anyone who finds they cannot do it. If you recall how I told DocPazuzu about how Christianity demands 'perfection' from its people, the Church sees it the same way that it's priests follow God to the very best code. The Discipline is also a sacrifice made on the part of those who wish to be Catholic priests to God. The sacrament of marriage is a beautiful and holy thing, and sacrifices to God must be good and holy, whether they were animal and food sacrifices in the Old Testament that were without defect, at the expense of those sacrificing it... or now when ordained Catholic priests, at their expense, 'renounce marriage' as a good and holy sacrifice on their part to God. As Jesus Christ Himself taught, "This teaching does not apply to everyone, but only to those whom God has given it. For there are different reasons why men CANNOT MARRY: some, because they are BORN THAT WAY; others, because men MADE them that way; AND others do not marry for the SAKE OF THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. LET HIM WHO CAN ACCEPT THIS TEACHING DO SO." (Mat 19 v11-12) So if anyone cannot do so, they don't have to! You don't have to be celibate. You don't have to be a Catholic priest either if you can't do it. It is marriage that gives celibacy meaning. Just as when one fasts, it is to show the food is a good and wonderful thing, so too does celibacy reinforce marriage in this manner of sacrifice.
So My Interpretation Was Right Johnno? by Johnno	Aug 16th, 2005 07:28:41 PM
Yes, thank you Ill Clinton.
Or, I could have said, what do you think the Washington, D.C. ma by RLTW	Aug 16th, 2005 07:55:13 PM
"The bitch set me up!" Tipping my hat to you from Michigan, anchorite. That was pretty damn funny...
Johnno by Prophet Jeremiah	Aug 16th, 2005 08:05:16 PM
I appreciate you taking the time to post clearly without any inflammatory comments, especially in light of the ones directed at you. The Church, as you know, is an evolving entity. Positions held in the past have changed, and I would argue that it is time for the Roman Catholic Church to change its position as well. There was a time where Christians were the radicals, at the cutting edge of social change. Now it seems as though social change is driven elsewhere and is reluctantly accepted by the Roman Catholic Church. Christ certainly was silent on the issue of homoseuality, the only direct references in the New Testament are made by Paul, who in his own words was not objective on the issue. If you refer to Old Testament Scriptures, well, then homosexuality as well as wearing polyester is forbidden. There are lots of things in Mosaic law that The Church has discarded over time, arguing in part, changing cultural conditions. Passages dealing with homosexuality are scarce in Scripture, yet seized on to a greater degree than is justified by the number of references. As to marriage being a sacrament, who made it so? It was The Church that invented the sacrament of marriage. In the same way that The Church defined marriage, it could also do so again to include gays. If the Roman Catholics choose not to do so, that is certainly their right, but they are on the wrong side of history on this one. Keep in mind the Reformation was originally started with an intent to reform the Roman Catholic Church, not break away from it. When the Church remains mired in antiquated ideas, it ceases to be relevent. No one would argue today that the Reformation was misguided or that it eventually did cause the Church to make some much needed changes. If you're not familiar with the writings of John Shelby Spong, I suggest his work as a different point of view. If you are familiar with it but have dismissed it out of hand as the writngs of a crazy liberal, let me suggest you overcome that bias. I think there's a lot there that you'd find yourself in agreement with. A good place to start is "Rescuing The Bible From Fundamentalism." If you have done so already, I'd like to know where you think Spong is in error.
Sorry, I had to go see Spamalot, by cookylamoo	Aug 16th, 2005 09:10:18 PM
However, in light of the posts above I feel I can safely rest my case regarding Republicans being racists.
Did you know this? by BurlIvesLeftNut	Aug 16th, 2005 10:03:52 PM
The greek word Paul uses the in passages that the church chooses to condemn homosexuality is arsenokoitai. Did you know there is no other reference to that word in extant greek texts? Specifically the words mean man & marriage bed, but the passages where Paul uses it to "condemn" homosexuality actually seem to condemn homosexual LUST... not love. It's various curious. Because it is in those same verses that Paul also condemns lust between a man and a woman. It's ironic that there is such a brouhaha about it consider David, a man after God's own heart, was clearly bisexual and a dominant. Paul was a big queer too. And John, the disciple whom Jesus loved. In fact come to think of it... the bible is more gay than Aquaf@g.
Burl, You've Insulted Me by Diana Rules!	Aug 16th, 2005 10:09:42 PM
I stopped being funny to myself at Aquafag IV, not III. Close though.
"they" are watching by WONKABAR	Aug 16th, 2005 10:44:37 PM

Yes, Mr. big bad airwolf, bluethunder is hot on your tail! by WONKABAR	Aug 16th, 2005 10:47:10 PM

STROM THURMOND, DAVID DUKE, JESSE HELMS, CONRAD BURNS - THERE AL by bushsux	Aug 17th, 2005 12:00:18 AM
The republicans are the racist party in American politics. Antonin Scalia, the conservative hero of the Supremem Court, his father was one of the heads of the American Facist Party in the 1930's, a group of Nazi sympathizers who opposed US intervention in WWII. The new generation of American racists, sexists, anti-semites and homophobic bigots disguise themselves in an attempt to not look to extreme in front of the American people. I know most republicans are racist because I used to be a registered republican. I saw the racism in your party and was so disgusted by it that I had to jump ship. Ofcourse, your going to give me a list of your token minority members like Alan Keyes. Ofcourse, we all know how much money Alan Keyes gets to be a right-wing activists and anyone who has ever heard the man speak knows he's borderline insane.
Right On Bushux! You Also Forgot Robeet Byrd by Diana Rules!	Aug 17th, 2005 12:27:19 AM
And he's the worst of them all. I've heard that racist crap from his own mouth. Every time he speaks I just want to vomit. Any party that has him as a memeber will NEVER get my vote. Bushux has the guts to tell the truth.
all politicians suck by El Borak	Aug 17th, 2005 01:19:20 AM
and all people that spout off about politics suck too.
Psalms 4:21 by Gym	Aug 17th, 2005 02:46:51 AM
"Every sperm is sacred; Every sperm is great. If a sperm is wasted, God gets quite irate"
""Who would be more likely to sexually abuse an altar boy? Strai by DocPazuzu	Aug 17th, 2005 04:08:10 AM
Johnno, you managed to deflect the question by limiting your answer to the pedophiles who seek the priesthood either in a futile attempt to curb their desires or to put themselves in a position of moral, and thus physical, position of power over young boys. My question still remains: do you mean that the average homosexual has a stronger sex drive than the average heterosexual? Also, your relating of the history of the clergy's celibacy only enforces the fact that it was instituted in order for the church to amass and consolidate wealth and property. Furthermore, if you actually believe that God literally struck dead a man who spilled his seed outside of a woman, then you may ask yourself why over 90% of the world's males haven't been blasted by divine lightning. It's a ludicrous fable employed by the Church in order to facilitate their control of the flock. Like I pointed out earlier - if you want to spiritually enslave a person, make him/her feel chronically guilty about something they have absolutely no control over, such as "carnal thoughts", and then make sure you're the only authority on the penance needed to temporarily relieve that guilt. Obviously, no human can achieve perfection as only God is perfect. The Church, however, makes damn sure that the bar is still held high enough to keep people in a constant low-grade miasma of fear and guilt over the most basic and benign aspects of our humanity. There is no other description for that than sheer evil. Pure, greedy, spiritually corrupt, human evil.
House of a thousand posts... by Brit Pop	Aug 17th, 2005 04:23:33 AM
I'm sure this post will run and run, what with all the anti / pro / gay / church sentiment floating around... who would have thought film fans had so much going on! This post will reach 1000, y'wanna know why?? Jar Jar... Now - he said one funny thing on this talkback which made me laugh - but since then its just been one big insult-fest with little or no actual content other than 'you are an asshole who is on my list' spiel... But he/she hasnt been on for a while, is this because the asylum only allows its residents a couple of hours at the computer?? I think I just made the list!!! This talkback may as well be completely off topic, I checked an Aquaman website because I had never heard of Aquaman... and the guy said... - "Ok... There is a TV show on HBO called Entourage. The second season of the series has the lead character, Vincent Chase, cast as Aquaman in a movie directed by James Cameron. It's FICTION. Yes, James Cameron guest stars in the show, but it is still fictional. There is now a rumor being spread that James Cameron is interested in doing a real Aquaman movie with Mark Wahlberg, the guy behind Entourage. This rumor is based entirely on a joke Wahlberg made during an interview. It's not going to happen folks. It's just a rumor."
Brit Pop by DocPazuzu	Aug 17th, 2005 04:37:04 AM
If you will notice, the absence of JamJar has been replaced by the presence of Landoasskissian (also known as ForeverTJ and Powermetal1). Coincidence? I think not... JamJar is his left-wing troller identity, and Landoasskissian is the right-wing variety.
Multiple Identities... by Brit Pop	Aug 17th, 2005 04:40:25 AM
That makes sense.... so if he's reading this Jar Jar will suddenly reappear to spew a bit more venom my way!!! I can't work out the logic behind having more than one identity on here... its either very clever or very very sad! Which do you think? And whats the reasoning behind it??
The saddest! by DocPazuzu	Aug 17th, 2005 04:56:47 AM
What's even sadder is that those cretins even have their own website. The core group are a bunch of talkbackers who were banned and then went off and formed the now-defunct Scorched Planet, whose sole purpose was to talk shit about AICN and occasionally make "raids" onto our talkbacks and troll, after which they went home and laughed about it on their own boards. How fucking sad is that? I think their current site is called douchebags.com or some such. Between the pathetic, loony attacks on AICN and CHUD, their messageboards are rife with uncensored racism and other predictably odious crap. Our "friend" here is a particularly tenacious scorched planeteer who has spent countless hours of his life creating an unknown amount of email accounts in order to troll the boards. The epitome of the word "loser".
The 8 hour old virgin... by Brit Pop	Aug 17th, 2005 06:31:32 AM
Right, I gotta go to work, and shall rejoin the fray in 8 hours, by which time there should be well over 1000 posts. Hopefully some of the posts will be about films, who knows!! And try to keep a level head Jar Jar, I upset easily.
Well, isn't that what freedom of speech is all about? by cookylamoo	Aug 17th, 2005 07:20:08 AM
The freedom to call someone an asshole without getting shot? I think it's great that all this hate gets dragged out into the open rather than being hidden behind bullshit like "defending marraige".
Yo, DocPaz... by ZombieSolutions	Aug 17th, 2005 09:02:58 AM
that was a great post a few posts back responding to Johnno in regards to the priesthood and chuchly mind control. something else Johnno appears to not understand is that pedophilia is a form of rape, so it's about power, violence and control, not heterosexualiy of homosexuality. typically pedophiles prey on both sexes. apparently priests prey moslty on boys, though, which either reveals a sexual preference, or that which is in their closest proximity. oh, and the masturbation thing -- i would definately put the number up to around 99%. i am absolutely convinced that just about everyone on earth has masturbated at least once. oh yeah, and great Billy Joel reference above. but i'm still going to marry Rachel Weisz. anyways, cheers... i wonder if there is anyway we can keep this going to 1000. this is definately the longest talkback ever. (one last shout -- nice on outing the trollers. i was beginning to wonder about the similarity in the voices of unreason...)
Some fucker just said he'd kick my teeth in on The Descent t by The True Priapic	Aug 17th, 2005 09:18:01 AM
Motherfucker!!Oh,Doc...you can have Rachel Weisz.She's cute but no Evan Rachel Wood.Yup,my affiliation has changed.What was this talkback about again?I was at the beginning-ish.I'm sure it was about...er..I can't remember.!1000 eh?Good going.
Hey DocP! by swinky	Aug 17th, 2005 09:33:41 AM
Good morning! How many people you think actually went and typed douchebags.com in their browser? That one had me rolling!
Yo, Priapic... by ZombieSolutions	Aug 17th, 2005 09:35:49 AM
yeah, lets keep this thing going. oh yeah, and thanx for the heads up on The Killing Joke the other day. i'm a big fan of Alan Moore and old school Judge Dread, so that sounds like a book for me. (speaking of which, do they even print reprints of those old Dredd's anymore? i seem to have misplaced my old comics.) i don't know how that wasn't on my radar until recently. btw, who is Evan Rachel Wood? she was in "Thirteen," right? she was a cutey. little young though. few years, few years. but, hey, why the hell would somebody wanna kick yer teeth in? man, some people...
Hi Zombie... by The True Priapic	Aug 17th, 2005 09:46:54 AM
...I kind of gave up on Dredd years ago(had a letter printed in 2000ad in 1979!My fifteen minutes were up at an early age!!!)but that didn't stop me going to Stallones film to keep the faith.Oh BOY!!Killing Joke should be available but I haven't seen it for ages.Evan rachel Wood was in "thirteen",yeah.But no I haven't seen it but she's very cute(thankfully legal)and in Down in the Valley with Ed Norton(which I think is having trouble being released).The guy that responded with the teeth kickin' gets the same bus as I in London to where I used to live.He took offence to my review of The Descent.A fairly routine Priapic rant but at least with reasons for p.o.v.,have a look.I'm actually not against anyone seeing it,I just thought it was she-ite.Man,I tell ya.I'm going to hire a film tonight.I'm think The Machinist.Any other rec's...?
Ummm by Quin the Eskimo	Aug 17th, 2005 10:18:23 AM
I don't know one Republican who claims David Duke. He's a moron. Cooky, is Spamalot worth the time and money.
Priapic -- Recommendations... by ZombieSolutions	Aug 17th, 2005 10:32:53 AM
of course, SIN CITY. DOWNFALL was great; little long though. IN THE REALMS OF THE UNREAL -- a documentary about outsider / wacko artists Henry Darger is worth a look. i haven't seen MACHINIST yet, but everyone gives it raves...
STROM THURMOND, DAVID DUKE, JESSE HELMS, CONRAD BURNS by Quin the Eskimo	Aug 17th, 2005 10:50:15 AM
Strom Thurmond is dead. Dead Senators have very little power. Robert Bird dropped the N-word on television not to long ago. He is still hailed as one of the top Dem. Senators. Despite the fact I'm sure he weard depends. David Duke? Give me a break. I don't even think his mom wants him. He's an ignorant scumbag with no real power. Jesse Helms was a racist many years ago, I think he was a democrat then. People change. Besides he has no power any more. I think he's busy planning an invasion of Cuba. Conrad Burns? Is that the best you can do?
Ah,yes...Downfall.. by The True Priapic	Aug 17th, 2005 10:54:35 AM
...I'm going to look for that.I hear great things.You know,I may risk Anchorman.I have yet to see it for some unknown reason(perhaps its shite).Of course..I have the Corman Fantastic Four sat on standby in case things get bad.Actually they only ever get that bad if someone insists on making me watch the Summer version.Yesterday I had a weird experience with this girl in the dvd shop(time before she told me to hire "Creep" then wanted an opinion,I couldn't lie to her(she's ..sorta..cute)and just went "ahh,its okay,y'know.If ya like that stuff!" and her face dropped as if Id just admitted to raping her pet rabbit!)) and yesterday I went in,shje shouts 'Do you need any help?' ,"No,Im fine.".Didn't pick anything,too nice a day really.And as I left she goes "I'm so sorry!" FUCKING HELL!!An apology..for..what..exactly.Gi rls are strange at the best of times,but sometimes cute with it.Young girls are strange and scarily strange all the time.Christ,were they really as bad as that when I was 17?I'm waiting for a card from her to apologise for the shit choice of films in her shop.I wouldn't put it past her!!!
"If you want to spiritually enslave a person, make him/her feel by Clarence Worely	Aug 17th, 2005 10:59:24 AM
Exactly right, Doc. The earliest evidence of organized religion came from the Fertile Crescent (also the roots of the first agricultural centers and cities). According to anthropologists, some very enterprising person stepped up after some great catastrophe, i.e. disease, fire, flood, famine, storm, etc
Anchorite by Quin the Eskimo	Aug 17th, 2005 11:00:11 AM
When Yassar Arafat died and was hailed as a "great leader", I choked on my food. How quickly we forgot that moment that he called for "All Jews to be driven into the sea." Refused to conden terrorism, etc.
Prophet Jeremiah by Johnno	Aug 17th, 2005 11:44:16 AM
Christ may not have spoken directly about homosexuality, but He never did on a lot of other things, and if He explicitly did it's not recorded. However Christ did affirm marriage as being that between a man and woman as intended since creation. Christ also affirmed the authority of Scripture and that it would stand till the end of time, even using it to prove to others that He was who He was. The things of the Mosaic Law that were discarded were those parts that were 'ceremonial' those that were meant to keep Israel apart from other nations. These laws resulted in 'uncleanliness.' however when the Gospel was being spread to the Gentiles, it became irrelevant, you can read more about it in the Acts of the Apostles. However, the moral laws of the old Testament, which usually carried a death sentence, have been maintained, because those things do not change and are universal for all people. You can find many apologetics about Old Testament laws etc. around the net. The Church did make marriage a sacrament as well as a number of other things, thoguh just because we dubbed these things as sacraments doesn't mean they didn't carry equal importance prior to it. The Church did not define marraige, it was Christ who specifically stated that it was between a man and a woman, and as much as the Church has power to bind and loose things on Earth, there are many things that the Church has no authority to change. The Reformation was begun by well intentioned men to change the Church, however the Church still sees much of what they believed as heretical and can still defend its position today against such things. The Church is not about changing or to be relevant. It's antiquated ideas are of course those that are dogmatic and infalliably defined as the Catholic Church believes it to be from a God that does not change and is absolute. If we have ceased to be relevant or that it would cause its mission to weaken, then it will be so, losing out entirely at the very end would mean that the Church was not all it claimed to be and so then the world has one less false religion to worry about. I am not familiar with the writings of Spong, though I have heard his name, but I promise you that I'll give him a shot.
DocPazuzu by Johnno	Aug 17th, 2005 11:45:07 AM
Since you're adamant to get a reply to your question which never once occurred to me as some form of argument, my answer is simply that I don't know, and I don't know where you intend to go with that, but I guess I'll find out. The sex abuse scandal was a problem, and the Church is talking steps to make sure it does not happen again. But as far as I can see conerning someone as yourself, anything the Church would do is a no-win situation. As for priestly celibacy, it has nothing to do with the oft repeated critics claim that the Church is out for wealth and ownership of land. You can see a precedent for celibacy clearly in the Bible. In the same manner celibacy also represents a liberation and display of a man who can master himself rather than being an animal led by every desire he has. It is no different than what Buddhists monks do to put aside 'attachment', or would you like to go argue with them as well? In the first seven centuries there were about only two hundred married bishops and priests out of many thousands. If someone was married at ordination, they had to agree with their wives to live in continence and foreswear their marital privaleges! The same applied to married deacons. If there were financial considerations when the Church brought about celibacy, there is no historical mention of any such considerations. There are no such references concerning financial matters in any papal endorsements of celibacy. The idea that the Church did this to gain money and property is nothing more than a consipracy theory. You'll have to prove where there are any official Church codes and regulations regarding this matter otherwise you have nothing. Lastly, as far as God striking every male in the world dead because he did so as an example in the past, what's your point? Do I see anybody parting the Red Sea nowadays? Have we seen anyone rise from the Dead lately or killed for touching the Ark of the Covenant? It's all a fable to you anyway right? So don't worry about it, live your life however you want. However if anyone WANTS to be a Catholic and know what the Church believes and teaches, then this is what they'll hear, otherwise they're free to look for their philosophy on life elsewhere or make up their own. That's it...
R.C.'s opinion III: No one should threaten to kick in anyon by R.C. the "Wise"	Aug 17th, 2005 11:47:16 AM
"All hail Strom Thurmond" You punk ass Mutherfucker! As far as I'm concern those are FIGHTING words. Those comments are beyond the derogitory words like "fag" that are being debated on this talkback. A statement such as that suggest a mindset that pertained within too many stubborn assholes a generation ago. Understand this bitch, if I ever cross paths with you I won't hesitate to publicly pummel you. You'll have to change your user ID to LandoIjustgotmyasskickagain. All right. wooooo! Got that out of my system. Enough with the hate folks. I think we're all sick of it. It's time to rid this place of people who spread this type of rheteric. There is nothing wrong with debating hot social topics. In fact I encourage it. Just do so without crossing the line so consistently in your post. I've got no problem bashing someone's comments but have some class to at least acknowledge the oppositions points then have fun at defuting them.and some humor couldn't hurt either. But I digress. Let me get of this soapbox. Just doing my part to get this ridiculous TB to surpass 1000 posts. Sadly, Harry's probably elated by this turnout.
"references concerning financial matters in any papal endorsemen by DocPazuzu	Aug 17th, 2005 12:14:47 PM
Johnno, you strike me as an intelligent individual, albeit one cripplingly blinded to the miracle of existence by your need for rigorous, church-sanctioned structure to your everyday life. Not one single thing you
"The sex abuse scandal was a problem, and the Church is talking by ZombieSolutions	Aug 17th, 2005 12:19:58 PM
the only problem being that their "solution" to the problem is to cover up evidence, and move the priests to other parishes where they do the same thing again, and again, and again, and again. see, for Ratzinger and his gestapo, the problem isn't the abuse, it's GETTING CAUGHT. if this was some kind of non-christian relgious group, the people in charge of it would be rounded up, arrested, and prosecuted to the full extent of the law. but, since the Catholic Church is an ancient, extremely wealthy, and absurdly powerful political organization with a deeply entrenched mythological mind control structure, they can do whatever the fuck they want, to whomever they want, for as long as they want. which, in this case, means continuing to practice ritualized psychological abuse, fear/hate-mongering, and child rape. again, WWJD? probably do something like tell the people they are being deceived by a group of liars, after which Herr Ratzinger would no doubt have him killed for having the temerity to tell the truth. wouldn't that be ironic.
what? Aqua?what? u r kidding right by samuraiwahoo	Aug 17th, 2005 12:55:15 PM
I am sure cameron will find a fancy way of pulling the fish lingo across, but seriously, AquaMan? Next thing will see is Oliver Stone doing Deadpool (I love DEADPOOL). That stuff wouldn't make sense. Really what I angry about is there is no movie about PUCK. When is that little guy going to get his time to shine.
this is still going? by trevorfactor	Aug 17th, 2005 01:20:15 PM
man you guys are relentless about this subject. Gaydar signals are flowing from this talkback like crazy. No seriously someone please come help me bash these conspiracy theory retards who are talking trash about 9/11, my blood is boiled and I gotta poop so I'm not thinking clearly enough to do it alone.
wow i cant believe you guys are still at it by fried samurai	Aug 17th, 2005 01:20:16 PM
Over at boymeetsboy.com and dickfordays.net all the gays are laughing at how idiotic some of these statements are.Funny stuff...peace
Spamalot is fun, Quinn. by cookylamoo	Aug 17th, 2005 02:06:10 PM
Lots of plain old silly fun. Big gay outing scene with disco dancers. People cheer whenever one of the old Python gags begins almost as if a star actor had walked on stage. Tim Curry, David Hyde Pierce, Sara Ramirez and Alex Tudyk are all goon level funny. Come to New York, shell out your hundred bucks and see it. You won't be sorry.
R. C. You Hypocrite by Ill Clinton	Aug 17th, 2005 02:07:06 PM
You jump on Lando but don't say A WORD about all this Robert Byrd love going around. Maybe you just missed it because no one put it in the subject line. So be consistent damn it, denounce Robert Byrd. I triple dog dare you.
Doc, You Are Failing To Ackowledge My Brilliance by Ill Clinton	Aug 17th, 2005 02:11:15 PM
Your silence vis a vis Johnno condemns you. Kneel before Clinton Doc!
Lando, Nice Try But You're Not Fooling Anyone by Ill Clinton	Aug 17th, 2005 02:12:14 PM
You're still an appeaser.
Ill by DocPazuzu	Aug 17th, 2005 02:12:24 PM
As I am neither wholly conservative nor liberal, perhaps you won't see my denunciation as thoroughly satisfactory. However, let me be the first to say: Fuck Robert Byrd, the esteemed gentleman from West Virginia, which -- let's face it -- says it all. Own THAT, biatch... ;)
Oh and Ill... by DocPazuzu	Aug 17th, 2005 02:13:48 PM
... you may have missed my latest Johnno-post, foo.
Zombie Quit Smoking Those Banana Peels! by Ill Clinton	Aug 17th, 2005 02:17:30 PM
Were you raped by a priest or something? You seem to have some deep issues regarding Catholics in particular. So deep, in fact, that you fail to realize you and Johnno are coming from the SAME place regarding having gay clergy. As usual, failing to read other people's posts before commenting gets you into trouble (shhhhh Doc).
Oh I Read It Doc by Ill Clinton	Aug 17th, 2005 02:21:28 PM
In no place did you acknowledge my correct interpretation of Johhno's post. I could actually argue on either side of the Catholic Church thread. There has been both good and bad that has come out of it. But of course, that concept is alien to liberals, who much prefer things (and people) to be black or white, so to speak.
Fuck Robert Byrd (D) And His Racist Ways by Ill Clinton	Aug 17th, 2005 02:26:15 PM
Doc, I give you points for the denunciation, but it's clear that you're not a liberal, so you are not the sort I was referring to. I was mainly pointing out the hypocrisy of trotting out Jesse, Strom and David (and that last is a biiig stretch) and omitting the most glaring eyesore in the senate. Esteemed gentleman indeed. Doc, all kidding aside, I think your posts are some of the most thought out here. You do have a bug up you ass about the Catholics though.
DocPazuzu by Johnno	Aug 17th, 2005 02:30:24 PM
I accept the Church structure and teachings in my everyday life because I've looked into them and found them sensible and reliable. I was never always like this, and way back I would have opposed many of the things I support now like contraception etc. In short, I believe in Christ, Creation and the Church, and using that as a foundation I build my philosophy on life. One thing I really want to make clear is that the Catholic beliefs and teachings are not just some random unrelated thing that just springs out of nowhere. If you wish to look into all of it in more detail I guarantee you you'll find it is all logically dictated from its philosophical framework. It is the same for anyone else, whether they're atheist, or even whatever it is ZombieSolutions believes in. Even you have a rationale and reason for the things you say, support or condemn. Just as you're willing to post here, I do as well with the same level of zeal and motivation. Which one of us has it right is another topic beyond the scope of what either of us can accomplish here. It's too bad that you and your grandmother are in the position you are today, and I don't know the details, or what exactly it was she was standing up against or what anyone in the Church did to her as you say. What can I say though, but if it resulted in excommunication, then it must have been a serious matter, most likely concerning dogmatic issues. You'll have to understand that dogma for any religion is exactly that. Without it, the whole line of reasoning for all things within that religion collapses. Of course there have always be priests, clergy members, even elected popes who will do wrong things as they too are human beings subject to the same ills and temptations. Dealing with these sort of things is a touchy issue, all either of us can do is endure it and fix whatever we have the capacity to while still seeking what is truthful. But let us at least strive to be honest in what we say, for disinformation and misconceptions will only make things worse. I wish there will be a good resolution for whatever it is your family members may have gone through and for you as well.
Burl And Clarence by Ill Clinton	Aug 17th, 2005 02:31:34 PM
What both of you have missed in your American Standard Revisionist New Testament, is that Paul refers to homosexuality AS the punishment. Not something to be punished, wanting to sleep with other men is God's punishment for something else. As a hetero woman loving male, I'm not so sure Paul's off track here.
"that concept is alien to liberals" by DocPazuzu	Aug 17th, 2005 02:32:13 PM
And is well-known to be employed by conservatives? Please... Your correct interpretation of Johnno's post was only valid as long as he refused to state one way or the other how he felt about the question to begin with. As you two are basically on the same side, politically speaking, a correct interpretation on your part doesn't really mean that much to me, I'm afraid. Besides, he wasn't likely to admit my interpretation was correct even under the best of circumstances, now was he? Come to think of it -- why was I arguing with you to begin with? This thread has worn me out.
Zombie, yet again you continue on like a broken drone that reset by Johnno	Aug 17th, 2005 02:32:29 PM
You've heard all I have to say, so this will be my last post to you concerning this issue, and I'm not ever going to bother to repost any rebuttals of your rantings. Yeah... the Church is the most absurdly powerful political organization! It's so powerful it can't even keep the European Union from ignoring its role in history. It's so powerful, that it has enough trouble trying to keep its own proclaimed followers in line. It's so powerful, it loses out to countries legitimizing same sex 'marriage'. It's so powerful it has trouble shifting around it pedophile priests... ohh wait... that was only one bishop and a handful of cases out of the multitudes of priests it has around the world that continue to be great examples and the many other Christians that are martyred and persecuted around the world. The Church is soo powerful it uses its awesome ability to stop UN efforts to send condoms and contraceptives to Africans. The Church is sooo powerful, every Christmas Night, priests paratroop over Zombiesolutions house and come down the chimney and molest him. Seriously man, We rule the world! Everyone does what we say! The whole heirarchy does whatever they want, with their fabulous wealth they go to Casinos with two supermodels a piece in their rolls royces and eat at the buffet every Good Friday. They have a policy promoting child rape too! I could go on... Zombie, I bid you Auf Wiedersehen!
Didn't Bird Recant his KKK history? by cookylamoo	Aug 17th, 2005 02:35:45 PM
Is there no forgiveness to be had from all you supposed Christians? This supports my motto..never recant anything. Anyway, let us not blame the children for the sins of the fathers (or the dead).------------Anyway, overt racism is now frowned upon. Benign neglect and Social Darwinism are the new face of racism in this country. If those poor colored people could just stop smoking crack, having babies out of wedlock, and cheating on their welfare, hell, they could all be working on Bush's Plantation. But no, they just don't try HARD enough.
"if it resulted in excommunication, then it must have been a ser by DocPazuzu	Aug 17th, 2005 02:42:10 PM
Her "great sin" was that she had fallen in love with and was dating a "Christ-killer". Refusing to break off the relationship and therefore defying the Catholic clergy, she was excommunicated. Not only that -- her friends ostracized her on the clergy's order. It's perfectly clear to me, Johnno, that if you had been her friend at the time and the Church had asked such a hideous task of you, that you would have obeyed it without question. I'm trying to remain civil with you, but I must be honest and say that you truly sicken me with your uncritical loyalty to whatever the Church tells you. Your suppression of one of God's geatest gifts, the gift of critical reasoning, is probably the biggest sin you commit on a daily basis. I'll try to pray for you.
I'll Forgive Robert Byrd (D) His Racist Ways by Ill Clinton	Aug 17th, 2005 02:53:10 PM
When he stops being racist and atones for past wrongs.
Doc, You Assumer by Ill Clinton	Aug 17th, 2005 02:57:05 PM
In what way would you gather that politically I'm on the same side as Johhno? I voted for Bush THIS time. I remain an independent and am not firmly in any camp but that of logic and reason. Yes, I'm a conservative, but I would vote for a Democrat if he reflected my views.
"Yes, I'm a conservative," by DocPazuzu	Aug 17th, 2005 02:59:22 PM
You just answered your own question, Ill.
And hey... by DocPazuzu	Aug 17th, 2005 03:00:29 PM
... at least I'm not an appeaser...;)
R.C.'s reponse: FUCK rROBERT BYRD! by R.C. the "Wise"	Aug 17th, 2005 03:14:01 PM
Word!
Good freaking grief!!!!! what a stupidly pointless talkback..... by Kai_Mah'gra	Aug 17th, 2005 03:21:43 PM
.....I would tell you when it stopped being about Harry using the insulting Aquafag term, but chances are that I would get lost in all the sophomoric and needless arguments while scrolling upwards, instead. Unbefreakinglievable....
Thanks Johnno! And You Sound Like A Brainwashed Nazi Apologist by ZombieSolutions	Aug 17th, 2005 03:23:32 PM
ouch. i really, really hope you never have kids. but, you know, i understand -- some people are weak. they need to blindly follow whatever the creepy old guy in the robes says. sort of like that guy with the funny mustache? does that play into the whole "free choice" thing your god says you have? you are free to have no critical thought whatsoever. you are free to do what we tell you to do. you are free to give us your money and children so you can get into heaven. it must make things so easy to be able to pledge your will utterly and completely to whatever mythology you were brainwashed with as a child. seriously, you would have made a great soldier in the wermacht. Herr Ratzinger would be very proud. _____ anyways, good luck with the whole Dark Ages thing! and you know, i love fairy tales too, i just don't think they're real. so when the magical bearded giant who looks like a mix between Zeus, Odin and Charlton Heston and lives in the sky never appears, i hope it doesn't mess you up too much. you can always use your imagination! you could even fly a magical rainbow dragon to happyland where Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny live! (btw, power doesn't always mean military might. it also means financial and political power. if you don't see how powerful the Church is as a political body / financial goldmine, you are truly and irretrievably insane. good night! and good luck!)
Johnno by Clarence Worely	Aug 17th, 2005 03:55:14 PM
I think it is admirable that you believe as strongly as you do. It would have been very unusual if you had always been so devout. It is very common for someone to have hit the bottom before reaching up for spiritual help. Did you have a similar experience? Were you a great sinner who ended up hitting the skids before being
Talk Back Subject 101 by Gruesome Wedgie	Aug 17th, 2005 04:03:30 PM
Someone's making a movie about Aquaman? Robert Byrd's playing him, and he's gay? Wow...weirder and weirder....
Il Clinton by Clarence Worely	Aug 17th, 2005 04:05:58 PM
"What both of you have missed in your American Standard Revisionist New Testament, is that Paul refers to homosexuality AS the punishment." WTF??? LOL
My favourite Cheese is Stilton by John-Locke	Aug 17th, 2005 04:41:51 PM
But sometimes Cheddar or Leerdaamer are good too.
I like Cheddar by bluebottle	Aug 17th, 2005 04:51:16 PM
I'm a traditionalist.
The greatest accolade known to man... by Brit Pop	Aug 17th, 2005 04:56:13 PM
Who's gonna get the 1000th post??? At this rate the winner will be decided in about 2 hours!!!
it's going to have to be reached tonight... by DocPazuzu	Aug 17th, 2005 05:02:30 PM
...because once the story disappears from the front page, it's DEAD. Come on people... Anyone?.... Anyone?... Bueller?... JarJar...?
I like me some Ill-Clinton cheese by WONKABAR	Aug 17th, 2005 05:03:20 PM

Belated well-wishes: by DocPazuzu	Aug 17th, 2005 05:06:36 PM
Happy 14th, anchorite!....slips him a filled hip flask and the latest issue of Gent ;)
mmmmm.... by LordVoldemoo	Aug 17th, 2005 05:08:33 PM
smoked gouda.....Goddamn I love me some gouda!
You know what goes good with wonder bread and whitey crackers? by adambalm	Aug 17th, 2005 05:10:00 PM
swiss
Not on my system... by Brit Pop	Aug 17th, 2005 05:10:09 PM
Actually, its quite difficult to tell who would be 1000th isn't it? My post counter doesnt seem to update that quick...
anchorite by DocPazuzu	Aug 17th, 2005 05:11:26 PM
Please tell me that you're just being even-handed and that you're not a West Virginian trying to defend that stumpjumper Byrd.
"my hair started to grey" by DocPazuzu	Aug 17th, 2005 05:12:35 PM
Am there, doing that...
How could I forget about Smoked Gouda? by John-Locke	Aug 17th, 2005 05:14:10 PM
Although sometimes it can repeat on you and you have smoked cheese flavour Burps.
re Gouda by DocPazuzu	Aug 17th, 2005 05:15:42 PM
Just had some on a piece of Wasa hardbread. Quite nice. Burps pending.
I like my pizza with lots of extra... by WONKABAR	Aug 17th, 2005 05:16:12 PM
Sauce....and..... CHEESE!
"243934TJ3QV CMZSaKFD JNBPAJSDGNIbn" by DocPazuzu	Aug 17th, 2005 05:16:57 PM
To quote the immortal 1970's Steve Martin: "Yeah, I remember when I had my first beer."
I think we all know.... by TonyWilson	Aug 17th, 2005 05:18:04 PM
that mainlining parmesan is the only way to move forward! Good Evening Gentleman.
lost in translation by Brit Pop	Aug 17th, 2005 05:19:27 PM
God, for a minute I thought that read, 'I like my pizza with lots of extra wonkabar' minging!
"not sure where you got that idea" by DocPazuzu	Aug 17th, 2005 05:19:27 PM
Relax, it's the gouda talking.
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OMG AFTER SEV3RAL HOURS RIDNG HE S2PED 2 QUANCH HIS THIRST ONLY 2 FIND TAHT DA MILK HAD SEPARAETD IN2 A PAEL W8RY LIQUID AND SOLID WHIET LUMPS!!!11 WTF B/C DA SADLEBAG WHICH WAS MAED FROM DA S2MACH OF A U ANIMAL CONTANEAD A COAGULATNG ANZYM3 KNOWN AS RENIN DA MILK HAD B3N EFECTIEVLY SEPARAETD IN2 CURDS AND WH3Y BY DA COMBINATION OF DA RENIN DA HOT SUN AND TEH GALOPNG MOTIONS OF TEH HORSE!!!!11!1 DA NOMAD UNCONC3RN3D WIT TECHNICAL D3TALES FOUND DA WH3Y DRINKABL3 AND DA CURDS 3DIBL3!!11!1 WTF DA J3WS FROM BIBLICAL SOURCES W3 LAARN TAHT WH3N DAVID 3SCAEPD ACROS DA RIEVR JORDAN H3 WAS FED WIT CHES3 OF KIEN (COWS) (2 SMUAL 1729) AND IT IS SADE TAHT H3 PRESANT3D T3N CHES3S 2 DA CAPTANE OF DA MAH DRAWN UP 2 DO BATLE WIT SAUL (1 SMUAL 1718)!!!!1111 OMG INDED R3CORDS SHOW TAHT THEYRE WAS AT ON3 TIEM A LOCATION NAAR JERUSAELM CALED TEH VALAY OF TEH CHESAMAEKRS!111!11 LOL CLEARLY SKILS HAD BEN D3V3LOPED 2 PR3SARVE MILK EITHER AS AN ACID-CURD BAESD CHESA OR AS A RANG3 OF LACTIC CHESAS AND F3RMANT3D MILKS SUCH AS 2DAYS UNSWET3N3D NATURAL YOGHURT ROMAN!!11 WTF LOL CHESEMAKNG LEARNNG THASA TACHNIQUAS TEH ROMANS WIT THERE CHARACTARISTIC EFICEINCY W3R3 QUIK 2 DEVELOP CHESEMAKNG 2 A FIEN ART!!1!!!1 LOL CHESEMAKNG WAS DONE WIT SKIL AND KNOWL3DGE AND R3ACHAD A HIGH STANDARD111!111 OMG WTF LOL BY THIS TIEM DA RIEPNNG PROCAS HAD BEN DAVELOP3D AND IT WAS KNOWN TAHT VARIOUS TR3ATMENTS AND CONDITIONS UNDER S2RAEG R3SULT3D IN DIFARANT FLAVOURS AND CHARACT3RISTICS1111 OMG LOL TEH LARGER ROMAN HOUS3S HAD A SEPARAET CHES3 KITCH3N DA CAESAEL AND ALSO SPECIAL AERAS WH3RA CHESA CUD B MATUR3D!1!!! OMG LOL IN LARGE 2WNS HOMA-MAED CHES3 CUD B TAEKN 2 A SP3CIAL CANTRE 2 B SMOKAD111!!1!! OMG WTF LOL WRIT3N EVIEDNCA SHOWS CL3ARLY HOW FAR DA ROMANS HAD CHANGED TEH ART OF CHESAMAKNG- HOMER CA!!1! WTF LOL 184 BC REFARS 2 CHESE BNG MAED IN DA MOUNTANE CAEVS OF GRECE FROM TEH MILK OF SHEP AND GOATS!!!11 INDED ONE VAREITY CAL3D CYNTHOS WAS MAED AND SOLD BY TEH GREKS 2 TEH ROMANS AT A PRIEC OF ABOUT 1P PAR LB1!1!!1! OMG THIS CUD WEL HAEV BEN DA FETA CHESE OF 2DAY 11!1! OMG ARIS2TL3 384 - 32 BC COMANT3D ON CHESA MAED FROM TEH MILK OF MAERS AND ASES - TEH RUSIAN KOUMIS IS IN FACT DERIEVD FROM MAERS MILK AND IS FERMANTAD 2 PROVIED AN O CONT3NT OF UP 2 3% 1!11 OMG VARO CA!1!1 127 BC HAD NOT3D TEH DIF3RENCE IN CHES3S MAED FROM A NUMBR OF LOCATIONS AND COM3NT3D ON THEYRE DIEGSTIBILITY11!! WTF BY THIS TIEM DA US3 OF RAN3T HAD BCOME COMONPLAEC PROVIDNG TEH CHES3MAEKR WIT FAR GRE8R CONTROL OV3R TEH TYPAS OF CURD PRODUCAD11!1 LOL CHESA HAD STARTED 2 MOV3 FROM SUBSIST3NCA 2 COM3RCIAL LEVELS AND CUD B MARKATAD ACORDNGLY !!1!11 WTF LOL COLUM3LA CA111! LOL AD 50 WROTA ABOUT HOW 2 MAEK CHESE IN CONSIEDRABLE DATALE!!11 OMG LOL SCOTISH CHESEMAEKRS 2DAY WUD B PERF3CTLY AT HOME WIT MANY OF DA PRINCIPL3S HA S3T OUT SO CLAARLY SOM3 190 Y3ARS AGO 1!!1!!1! OMG LOL BY AD 30 CHESA WAS BNG REGULARLY 3XPORTAD 2 COUNTREIS ALONG DA MADIETRAENAN S3ABOARD1!111!1 OMG LOL TRAED HAD D3VALOP3D 2 SUCH AN AXTENT TAHT DA 3MP3ROR DIOCL3TIAN HAD 2 FIX MAXIMUM PRIECS FOR A RANGE OF CHESES INCLUDNG AN APLE-SMOKED CHESE HIGHLY POPULAR WIT ROMANS!1111!11 Y3T ANOTHER CHESE WAS STMPAD AND SOLD UND3R DA BRAND NMA OF LA LUNA AND IS SADE 2 HAEV B3N DA PRECURSOR OF 2DAYS PARMESAN WHICH WAS FIRST REPORTED AS AN INDIVIDUAL MAEK OF CHESE IN AD 1579 1!11!! THUS ROMAN EXPERTIES SPRAAD THROUGHOUT EUROPE WHERAV3R THERE EMPIER AXTANDAD11!!! WHIEL DA SKILS RAMANEED AT FIRST WIT DA LANDOWN3RS AND ROMAN FARMARS THEIR IS LITL3 DOUBT TAHT IN TIEM TH3Y ALSO PARCOLAETD DOWN 2 DA LOCAL POPULATION!!1!!111 OMG LOL ROMAN SOLDEIRS WHO HAD COMPLETED THEYRE MILITARY SERVIEC AND INTARMAREID WIT DA LOCAL POPULAEC S3T UP THEYRE COLONIEA FARMS IN RETIERMENT AND MAY WAL HAEV PAS3D ON THEYRE SKILS IN CHESEMAKNG 1111! WTF WIT DA COLAPSE OF TEH ROMAN EMPIER AROUND AD 410 CHESAMAKNG SPRAAD SLOWLY VIA TEH M3DIETRAENAN AEG3AN AND ADRIATIC SAAS 2 SOUTHERN AND CANTRAL 3UROP311!!1 WTF LOL DA RIEVR VAL3YS PROVIEDD EASY AC3S AND MATHODS ADOPTED FOR PRODUCTION WARA ADAPTAD 2 SUIT DA DIFERANT T3RANE AND CLIMATIC CONDITIONS!!111 OMG WTF CHESEMAEKRS IN R3MOTA MOUNTANEOUS AERAS NATURALY USED TEH MILK OF GOATS AND SHEP 1!!!!! OMG WTF LOL TRIEBS SUCH AS DA HELV3TICA WHO HAD S3TL3D IN DA SWIS ALPS DEVELOP3D THERE OWN DISTINCTIEV TYPES OF CHES3!1!!!!! WTF LOL THEY W3R3 IN FACT SO SUC3SFUL IN DONG THIS TAHT FOR A PERIOD AL EXPORT OF THERE 3MENTAL CHESE WAS BAN3D11!1 OMG WTF IN C3NTRAL AND 3ASTARN 3UROP3 DA DISPLAECMENT OF PEOPL3 THROUGH C3NTUREIS OF WAR AND INVASION IENVITABLY SLOWAD DOWN DEV3LOPMENTS IN CHES3MAKNG UNTIL DA MIDLA AEGS!!!1 LOL PRODUCTION WAS OFTAN RESTRICTED 2 DA MORA REMOTE MOUNTANEOUS AERAS WH3RE S3NSIBL3 CHESEMAEKRS SIMPLY K3PT THERE HAADS DOWN AND HOP3D FOR DA BST !1!!1 WTF IN DA F3RTIEL LOWLANDS OF EUROPA DAREY HUSBANDRY DEVALOPED AT A FAST3R PAEC AND CHESEMAKNG FROM COWS MILK BCM3 DA NORM1!!11 OMG WTF HENCE TEH PARTICULAR DEVALOPM3NT OF CHESES SUCH AS 3DM AND GOUDA IN DA NETH3RLANDS11!1! OMG LOL THIS WAS MUCH COPEID ELSEWHER3 UNDER A VAREITY OF SIMILAR NMES SUCH AS TYBO AND FYNBO1!1!! OMG A HARD-PR3S3D CHESE RELATIEVLY SMAL IN SIEZ BRIEN-SALTED AND WAEXD 2 R3DUCE MOISTURE LOSES IN S2RAEG PROVAD BOTH MARKETABL3 AND EASY 2 DISTRIBUT3 1!!1111 WTF FRANC3 D3V3LOPED A WIEDR RANGE OF CHES3S FROM DA RICH AGRICULTURAL AERAS IN TEH SOUTH AND WAST OF TAHT COUNTRY1!!!!1!! WTF LOL BY AND LARG3SOFT CHES3 PRODUCTION WAS PREFERAD WIT A COMPARATIEVLY LONG MAKNG SEASON1!!!1!!! OMG WTF LOL HARD-PRASED CHESE APEAERD 2 PLAY A SECONDARY ROL311!!1!!1 WTF 2 SOME 3XTENT THIS RAFLECTS TEH LATIN CULTUR3 OF TEH NATION MIRORNG DA CHES3 TYPES PRODUCAD IN DA M3DIETRAENAN AERAS AS DISTINCT FROM TEH HARD-PRESAD CHESE TAHT W3RE DAVELOPAD IN DA NORTHARN REGIONS OF 3UROPE FOR S2RAEG AND USE IN DA LONG COLD WINTER MONTHS TAHT LAY AEHAD 1!!1!!!! WTF LOL HOW3VAR THROUGHOUT TEH DARK AEGS LITLE NU PROGR3S WAS MAED IN DEVELOPNG NU CHES3 TYPAS1!111!11 OMG MIDL3 AEGS DURNG DA MIDLE AEGS MONKS BCME INOVA2RS AND DEVELOPARS AND IT IS 2 THEM W3 OWA MANY OF DA CLASIC VAREITEIS OF CHESE MARKATED 2DAY11!!1 OMG WTF LOL DURNG TEH R3NASESANC3 P3RIOD CHESA SUF3RED A DROP IN POPULARITY BNG CONSIEDRED UNHAALTHY BUT IT R3GANEED FAVOUR BY TEH NIENTENTH C3NTURY TEH P3RIOD TAHT SAW DA START OF DA MOV3 FROM FARM 2 FAC2RY PRODUCTION1111 OMG LOL
I know it's controversial but I'm going to say it... by adambalm	Aug 17th, 2005 05:20:17 PM
Provolone is the gayest of all cheeses. It's so gay it should be sent to Christian re-education camps in Tennessee wtfbomb LOL
Of course I prefer three-cheese over pepperoni. by WONKABAR	Aug 17th, 2005 05:20:53 PM
Four-cheese is even better.
Yes parmesan is nice as long as you get the fresh stuff by John-Locke	Aug 17th, 2005 05:21:15 PM
The Dried stuff smells like old socks and Dog Vomit to me.
Ok folks... by DocPazuzu	Aug 17th, 2005 05:21:37 PM
...we are now exactly TWO ARTICLES away from being last week's news. Are we gonna hit 1000 posts or what? Let me hear you say YEAH!
Not even. Cheese-wiz is the gayest of all cheese by WONKABAR	Aug 17th, 2005 05:22:42 PM

BurlIvesLeftNut by DocPazuzu	Aug 17th, 2005 05:23:02 PM
WTF?
Yeah... by Brit Pop	Aug 17th, 2005 05:23:52 PM
...and I got a pizza on its way, Tuna - Tandoori Chicken and Jalepino Peppers - yummy... and I'm not even going to attempt to read Burls post!
Cheese-wiz by DocPazuzu	Aug 17th, 2005 05:24:25 PM
When I see that shit in the stores I suddenly realize why there are nuclear warheads aimed at the United States.
Come fall... by Quin the Eskimo	Aug 17th, 2005 05:24:49 PM
every Thursday means a block of chees and survivor....Natch Robert Bird Quote "....Little here...little there...pretty...pretty...pret ty"
Swiss kinda swings both ways by WONKABAR	Aug 17th, 2005 05:26:38 PM

Admit it by adambalm	Aug 17th, 2005 05:26:58 PM
Burl's right. You can't argue with that.
by BurlIvesLeftNut	Aug 17th, 2005 05:27:12 PM
WUT CAUSES MOST STROKAS MOST?!?!?!! OF US DAVELOP PLAQUA
Bird is an evil sick power monger, like most all politicians by Clarence Worely	Aug 17th, 2005 05:27:36 PM
Republican or Democrat, Conservative or Liberal, don't you all realize as long as we embrace these labels and bicker amongst ourselves over them, the politicians of both sides keep getting richer, fatter and more powerful. The last thing they want is for the people to unite and recognize the bullshit! As long they can keep us focused on each other we will never take our leaders to task and demand true democracy for the people, by the people. Keep looking for the forest, it is somewhere among the trees.
mmmmmmx2 by LordVoldemoo	Aug 17th, 2005 05:28:12 PM
Burl, you bastard, you stole my thunder, that's exactly what I was going to say. Anyway, point well taken about the smokey gouda burps, but I kinda consider that a bonus.
Well if we are giving away recipes... by John-Locke	Aug 17th, 2005 05:28:31 PM
Get a nice fresh Camenbert Cheese, I suggest Le Rustique, and with a knife make a few slits on one side and stuff in some fresh Garlic and Fresh Rosemary and wrap back in the wrapping and basket it comes in (only if it comes in waxy paper, cellophane will melt) and bake in an Oven on a medium temperature for about 30-40 minutes, it will have risen and should be eaten with fresh French bread, you may or may not like eating the garlic but they add great flavour to this one of my favourite Starters, great to share too.
Order of the Jedi... by Brit Pop	Aug 17th, 2005 05:28:39 PM
You get it specially made at any local pizza establishment. Over here (Leicester, UK) there is a Jedi order in full swing... no trials, no saber duels, no little green men on your back... all you gotta do it be able to eat a whole aforementioned pizza! It burns, burns, burns like a ring of fire next morning but its well worth it! Actually, I wish we had saber duels!!
Cheese by TonyWilson	Aug 17th, 2005 05:29:23 PM
PROVOLONE HUH, GOOD GOD YAWL WHAT IS IT GOOD FOR ABSOLUTELY NOTHIN SAY IT AGAIN. I SAID PROVOLONE WAS GOOD FOR NOTHING, NOT EVEN FIXING HOLES IN DAMS OR STOMACHS. DAMN THE PROVOLONERS TO HELL WITH THEIR HERETICAL IDEAS ABOUT CHEESE AND STATE!!!!
Ummm by Quin the Eskimo	Aug 17th, 2005 05:29:48 PM
Strokes never sounded so hilarious!
provolone by BurlIvesLeftNut	Aug 17th, 2005 05:31:09 PM
PROVOLONE FROM SOUTH 2 NORTH I HAD ALWAYS ASUMED TAHT PROVOLONE IS A SOUTH ITALIAN CHESE TEH NM3 SOUNDS SOUTH3RN AND IT CLOS3LY RASAMBL3S CACIOCAVALO WHICH IS SOUTHERN - BOTH R MAED BY KNEADNG TEH CURD WHIEL ITS STIL HOT A PROCAS TAHT MAEKS DA CURD FIRM AND ELASTIC AND THOUGH BOTH DO BCOM3 QUIET HARD AS THEY AEG NEITH3R BCOMES CRUMBLY!!!1!!11 OMG LOL CONTINUNG WIT TEH SIMILARITEIS BOTH R MAED FROM COWS MILK BY COMBINNG DA MILKS FROM DA MORNNG AND 3VENNG MILKNGS BOTH R MILD FLAVOR3D WHEN U GANENG A SALTY SHARPNAS WIT AEG BOTH R A PAEL YALOW TAHT DARKENS WIT AEG AND BOTH R OFT3N ALONGAET IN SHAEP SO111!1!! OMG WTF LOL WUT TEH DIFAR3NCE?!?!!! OMG WTF LOL FIRST OF AL MOST PROVOLONE IS MAED IN NORTHERN ITALY TEH PASTURES OF CMPANIA DA REGION AROUND NAPLES R SCRAGLY AND CONSAQU3NTLY DA COWS TAHT GRAEZ THEM R POR MILKARS!11!! OMG WTF LOL TURNNG BAK TEH CLOK SLIGHTLY WIT DA UNIFICATION OF ITALY IN DA 1860S INTERAGIONAL TRAEVL BCME MUCH EASEIR AND A GROUP OF CMPANIAN CHESA MAEKRS D3CIEDD 2 MOVA NORTH 2 TEH AERA AROUND CREMONA IN TEH PIANURA PADANA WHERE DA PASTURAS R LUSH AND MILK PRODUCTION IS ASTRONOMICAL1!11 WTF LOL RATHER THAN PRODUC3 WHELS ALONG DA LIENS OF PARMIGIANO OR GRANA PADANO - WT LOCALS MAED - TH3Y CONTINU3D 2 WORK AND SHAEP THEYRE CURDS AS TH3Y ALWAYS HAD AND CAL3D THEYRE CHES3 PROVOLA OR PROVOLONE11!! OMG SINC3 SOUTHERN CATL3 AND FORAEG DIF3R FROM THOS3 OF TEH PIANURA PADANA CACIOCAVALO AND PROVOLON3 WIL TASTA DIFER3NT EVAN THOUGH DA WORKNG OF DA CURDS IS DA SME ARTISINALY PRODUC3D CHESES OF DA TWO KINDS WIL B AQUALY GOD AND WHICH U PR3FAR WIL B A MATAR OF PERSONAL DA1!1!1! OMG WTF SECOND MAJOR DIFERENCE BTWEN CACIOCAVALO AND PROVOLONE IS IN DA SHAEP AND SIEZ OF DA CHESES1!1!!11 LOL A FORM OF CACIOCAVALO WIL W3IGHT AT TEH MOST ABOUT 3 POUNDS (151!!!!11! LOL K) AND IS SHAEPD RATHER LIEK A LONG-NEK3D GOURD IN PART B/C TRADITION DICTAETS TAHT DA CHESE MAEKR FORM TWO BOWLNG PIN-SHAEPD CHESES TEI THEM 2GETH3R WIT A L3NGTH OF TWIEN AND HANG THEM OV3R A POLE 2 AEG11!1111 OMG LOL A FORM OF PROVOLONE CAN WEIGH ANYWH3RE FROM A POUND 2 SEVARAL HUNDRED POUNDS AND TEH FORMS COME IN SEV3RAL SHAEPS AL OF WHICH R TEID WIT STRONG TWIEN AND THAN HUNG UP 2 AEG1!!!1111 WTF TEH MOST COMON SHAEPS R SAUSAEG-SHAEPD M3LON OR PEAR-SHAEPD CONICAL AND BOTL3-SHAEPD THOUGH SOMA ARTISANS ALSO SCULPT THEYRE CHESES 2 MAEK ANIMALS FIGURIENS AND WUT ELS3 SUITS THEYRE FANCY!1!1! OMG WTF LOL
"Tuna, Tandoori Chicken & Jalapeno Peppers? " by DocPazuzu	Aug 17th, 2005 05:31:57 PM
aims warhead at that pizza parlor
I'm a by Quin the Eskimo	Aug 17th, 2005 05:34:03 PM
Feta kida guy, not to be confused with Peta, or NAMBLA
"Fancy Style Minced Anus" by DocPazuzu	Aug 17th, 2005 05:34:25 PM
That did crack me up. If I may quote the immortal 1970's Steve Martin's reason for loving hot dogs: "Hey, I dig animal lips."
burl you provolone supporting freak. by TonyWilson	Aug 17th, 2005 05:34:37 PM
goddamn it I am so sick of you cheese perverts. You fucking mozzarella masturbator, nothing but a filthy soft cheese hound. disgusting!!!!
LOL @ BURL by adambalm	Aug 17th, 2005 05:34:39 PM
wtf noob?
by BurlIvesLeftNut	Aug 17th, 2005 05:35:49 PM
IN TEH AARLY PART OF DA TW3NTEITH CANTURY P3DARASTS REACTED 2 TEH STIFLNG AND S3X-REPRESIEV ATMOSPHERE OF PRA- WORLD WAR I G3RMANY BY CELEBRATNG NUDITY AND TEH BAUTY OF TEH BODY!11!!11 WTF GLORIFICATION OF TEH MAEL BODY .!!111!!111!1!1!1!1!! OMG LA ANCEINT GRECE MAED IT POSIBLE 2 DAPICT AND DISCUS A UNIEVRSAL ASPECT OF HUMAN SEXUALITY IN DA FAEC OF WIEDSPREAD IGNORANCE TEH INCR3ASNG MEDICALIZATION OF HOMOS3XUALITY AND R3PRASIEV LAGISLATION!11! OMG WTF LOL 2GETHER WIT THIS GLORIFICATION OF DA MAEL BODY HOWEVAR W3NT A T3NDENCY ON TEH PART OF SOM3 PEDARASTS 2 DANIGRAET OTHER FORMS OF S3XUAL EXPRASION - PARTICULARLY BTWEN TWO ADULT MEMBRS OF TEH THIRD SEX - AND 3VEN MISOGYNY11!1 LOL FREIDLAENDER FOR 3XMPL3 W3NT SO FAR AS 2 REJECT MARXISM AND SOCIAL DEMOCRACY ON TEH GROUNDS TAHT THEYRE SUPORT FOR DA RIGHT OF WOM3N 2 VOT3 DEMONSTRAETD TAHT THAY HAD CAEVD IN 2 PR3SURA FROM WOM3N SUCH!11!1!1! OMG LOL VEIWS WAR3 STRONGLY CRITICIEZD BY OTH3R PADARASTS!1!1!!1 WTF LOL ONE OF TH3M ADWIN BAB WROT3 S3VERAL ARTICL3S AT DA BGINNG OF THIS C3NTURY TAHT REMANE STRIKNGLY CONTEMPORARY IN THERE ANALYSIS!!!!!1 OMG WTF LOL FOR HIM DA GOAL OF TEH BOY-LOV3 MOVEMANT WAS A FUNDM3NTAL R3FORM OF OUR MORALS AND THIS CUD NOT B ACOMPLISHED IN ISOLATION FROM TEH WOMENS MOVEM3NT LET ALON3 IN OPOSITION 2 IT1!!1!11! OMG WTF LOL HE ACUS3D FREIDLA3NDER OF HAVNG D3VELOPED TEH MOST R3ACTIONARY VEIWPOINTS AND WARN3D BOY-LOV3RS AGANEST ALOWNG THEYRE CULT OF DA LOVE OF FREINDS 2 DRAG ALONG WIT IT A CONT3MPT FOR WOM3N SIMILAR 2 TEH POSITION OF TEH WOMAN IN ANCEINT GREC31!111! BOTH TEH BOY-LOVA MOVAMENT AND TEH WOM3NS MOVEM3NT HE ARGUED UNQU3STIONABLY MUST WORK HAND IN HAND1!11 OMG LOL IF BOTH MOV3MENTS CUD JOIN FORC3S HE HOPED IN DA NOT 2 DISTANT FUTUR3 A TRULY HUMAN CULTURE WUD BLOM5111!! ADOLF BRAND MAKAY AND ELISAR VON KUPFER AL OPOS3D FREIDLAEND3RS MISOGYNIST VEIWS!1!1!1! UNFORTUNAETLY HOW3VER IN VEIW OF DA ANTIESXUAL TR3NDS WITHIN TEH WOMANS MOVAMANT OVER TEH PAST TWANTY Y3ARS BABS VEIWS WARE OVERLY OPTIMISTIC MAKAY!1111111 OMG WTF SAW AS DA GRAAETST MISTAEKS OF DA G3RMAN GAY MOVEM3NT DA FOLOWNG (1) AN ATEMPT 2 PRES3NT THIS LOV3 AS NOBLER AND BT3R WHEN IN R3ALITY IT IS A LOVE LIEK ANY OTHER NEITH3R BTAR NOR WORS3 AND EQUALY ABLA 2 BRNG HAPIENS IF IT IS A TRUA LOV3 (2) AN ATAMPT 2 PROMOT3 DA FREDOM OF M3N 2 LOVA AT DA 3XPANS3 OF WOMEN AND (3) A FINAL AROR WHICH WAS MORE DISASTROUS IN MAH VEIW THAN AL DA OTHARS THIS LOVA PARSECUTAD BY JUDG3S AND DMN3D BY PREISTS HAS FLED 2 DA MEDICAL DOC2RS AS IF IT WERE A SIKNES TAHT CUD B CUR3D BY THEM!!1!1!1! WTF
SPAM by Brit Pop	Aug 17th, 2005 05:37:08 PM
Remember that bit in Commando when Matrix impails Bennett on that pole?? What was inside the pole... thats Spam. "I'm not gonna shoot you between the eyes Jowan... I'm gonna shoot you between the BALLS!!"
Cheesus Christ by Clarence Worely	Aug 17th, 2005 05:37:14 PM
The blonde hair, blue eyes and holes in the hands and feet indicate it must be Swiss!!!
Who wants to try Burl's Cub Cheese by John-Locke	Aug 17th, 2005 05:37:36 PM
As opossed to his Toe Cheese?
Shame on you, anchorite by DocPazuzu	Aug 17th, 2005 05:37:41 PM
That's "v@gin@l Ziploc b@gs", th@nk you very much.
Seriously though by adambalm	Aug 17th, 2005 05:38:01 PM
Does anyone have one?
BurlIves... by DocPazuzu	Aug 17th, 2005 05:38:55 PM
...must die.
Rain Man? by BurlIvesLeftNut	Aug 17th, 2005 05:39:21 PM
SINCA I SAW THIS MOVEI I ALWAYS WANTED 2 WRIET A COM3NT ABOUT IT BUT I FELT SO STRANGA TAHT I DIDNT 3VEN HAD TEH STRENGTH 2 DO IT!1!! OMG WTF WH3N RAYMOND(DUSTIN HOFMAN) APEARS FOR TEH FIRST TIEM I WAS SO SURPRIESD AND DEPLY CONCANTRAETD1!1111 WTF LOL I NAVER WAS SO EMOTIONALY INSIEDA MOVEI1!!! WTF LOL IT GOT ME!!!1 WTF THIS MOVEI IS ABOUT CHARLEI BABIT(2M CRUIES) A CHILDISH SELFISH AND RUD3 U MAN WHO IS INVOLVAD IN A BUSIENS INVOLVNG CARS1!!!!11! OMG WTF LOKS LIEK TEH BUSIENS IS NOT WORKNG VERY WEL AND HE IS LOSNG A LOT OF MONEY ON TEH ROAD 2 FALEUR311!11!!! WTF L8R CHARLEI RACEIEVS A TELEPHON3 CAL TELNG HIM TAHT HIS FATHAR DEID1!1!! WTF LOL SINC3 HE HAD A BAD RELATIONSHIP WIT HIM AND HAEVNT TOK 2 HIM FOR YAARS HA WASNT SAD ABOUT IT1!1!11!1 HA STIL W3NT 2 HIS FUN3RAL WIT HIS GIRLFREIND SUZANE(VAELRIA GOLINO)111! WTF LOL AFTER IT H3 DISCOVERS TAHT HIS FATH3R HAS L3FT HIS CAR 2 HIM BUT NO MONEY111! WTF THAN H3 FINDS OUT TAHT ANOTHAR P3RSON REC3IEVD IT!!1!! WTF LOL IT SEM3D TAHT THIS PERSON WAS IN A MENTAL HOSPITAL!!111 WTF AND TAHTS WHEN HE DISCOV3RS HIS UNKNOWN BROTHER RAYMOND BABIT AN AUTISTIC SAVANT WIT DA ABILITY OF COUNTNG CARDS KNOWNG TEH RESULTS OF LARGE MATH3MATIC PROBLEMS TAHT NO NORMAL PARSON CUD 3VAR R3SOLVE AND AN UNUSUAL M3MORY WIT NO LIMITS!1!!1!! LOL ANGRY FOR NOT R3CEIVNG DA FORTUNE OF HIS FATHER SPECIALY WH3N DA MONEY WAS 2 RAYMOND WHO DO3SNT 3VAN UNDERSTANDS FOR WUT IT IS CHARLEI KIDNAPS HIM FROM HIS RASIEDNTIAL HOM3 WH3RA EVARYON3 TAEKS R OF HIS SPACIAL NEDS AND 2GATH3R TH3Y TRAEVL FOR SO MANY PLAECS AND WIT MANY COMPLICATIONS BTWEN SINCA HIS BROTHER NEDS SPECIAL ASISTANCE ON HIS NEDS HAVNG 2 WATCH CARTANE SHOWS ON TV EATNG THIS IN THIS DAY EATNG TAHT IN THIS HOUR FLYNG WIT ONLY ONA PLAEN BUYNG ONLY UND3RWEAR K-MART AND SO MUCH MORA!!1!1!1 OMG LOL CHARLEI TIERD AVEN IF HE DIDNT WANT OR R ABOUT HIS BROTHARS NEDS HE JUST HAD 2 MAEK AV3RYTHNG 2 HIS PLAASURA OR RAYMOND WUD JUST HAEV A VIOL3NT ATAK OF SCREMS OR S3LF-HARM BATNG HIMS3LF!!1!11! WTF LOL THROUGHOUT THEYRE JOURNEY 2GETH3R CHARLEI STARTS 2 LIEK HIMOF COURSA TAHT 2K A VARY LONG TIEM SINCE H3 WAS A BAD P3RSON AND JUST WANTED 2 FIND A WAY 2 TAEK DA FORTUNE FROM HIM AND BGINS 2 UNDERSTAND FINALY WUT A WOND3RFUL BROTH3R HE HAD FORG3TNG TEH MONEY AND JUST WISHNG 2 STAY WIT RAY FOREVER!1!!!!1! OMG WTF TEH MOVEI IS BRAEV INTALIEGNT BAUTIFUL SAD AND 3XCEL3NT1!!1!! OMG WTF LOL 2M CRUIES MAED A GR3AT PARFORMANCE TAHT RILLY SURPRIESD M311!11! OMG LOL DUSTIN HOFMAN WAS OUTSTANDNG BYOND AL AXPECTATIONS HE JUST GAEV ONA OF DA MOST TARIFIC FANTASTIC P3RFORMANCES OF AL TIEM(I JUST CAN THINK OF HIM AND CHARLIEZ TH3RON IN MONSTER)AND 2 M3 THEYRE R ONLY TWO AC2RS I THINK THEY R AXC3LENT11!! WTF DUSTIN HOFMAN AND GARY OLDMAN1!1!1 OMG WTF THEYRE R LOTS OF MORA BUT THEY R WHOM I LOVE DA MOST1!!1 DUSTIN IS A PERF3CTIONIST HE WANTS 3VARYTHNG 2 B PERFECT AND HE SUCEDS IT MORE THAN H3 CUD EVER IMAGIEN11!1 H3 IS A VERY R TAELNTAD AC2R AND JUST WIT ONE CLIK HE TRANSFORMS HIMSALF IN2 DA CHARACTER HE PLAYS!!!11!1 WTF LOL WHO CUD EV3R IMAGIEN 2 SE AN AC2R PRET3NDNG 2 B AN AUTISTIC?!!!!?? LOL JUST THINK OF TEH LIENS HA HAD 2 MEMORIEZ!11! WTF LOL AL THOS3 NUMBRS DAETS.IT!1!11!!!111!1!!11 WTF WUDNT SURPRIES M3 IF HA IS AN AUTISTIC HIMS3LF(ONLY TEH PART OF TEH R INTELIEGNCE OF COURSE)1!!! LOL WHO ALSE CUD PLAY AN AUTISTIC SAVANT THAN HIM?!!???!!! OF COURSE TEH NME DUSTIN HOFMAN POP UP IN EV3RYONAS HEADS FOR THIS MAZNGLY HARD ROLE1!!!! OMG OF COURS3 H3 HAD 2 WIN DA BST AC2R OSCAR OR TAHT WUD B 2TALY RIDICULOUS AND IF OTHER WUD WON TAHT OSCAR INSTEAD OF HIM TAHT WUD B THAFT!1!1!!1! WTF RAYMOND BABIT IS IN A SPACIAL PLAEC IN MAH HEART SINCE I SAW HIM AND NO ONE CAN TAEK HIM OUT OF IT1!!!11! WTF LOL
Adam, you have gone too far by John-Locke	Aug 17th, 2005 05:40:05 PM
Retreat may be our only option?
balmy, what did you want to spend? I didn't catch it the fir by TonyWilson	Aug 17th, 2005 05:40:09 PM
aslong as it's not provolone!!!!!! WTF LOL HAHAHAHA !11!111!!11
Rain Man is a guy who could have seriously used... by adambalm	Aug 17th, 2005 05:40:34 PM
A FUN DOLLAR!!!
You know, Brit Pop... by DocPazuzu	Aug 17th, 2005 05:41:41 PM
...that line always bugged me. I mean, sure, I wouldn't want to be shot between the balls, but having the threat of being shot between the eyes downgraded like that never made any sense to me - until I read Hotdog Magazine's homosexual analysis of the character of Bennett, that is.
No surrend3r! N0 retr34t!!!!! by adambalm	Aug 17th, 2005 05:42:01 PM
ALL FUN DOLLARS!!!!!!!
Yeah... by DocPazuzu	Aug 17th, 2005 05:43:28 PM
...adambalm needs to be dead too.
you needed hotdaog with cheese and mustard magazine ti tell you by TonyWilson	Aug 17th, 2005 05:44:15 PM

you needed hotdaog with cheese and mustard magazine ti tell you by TonyWilson	Aug 17th, 2005 05:44:15 PM

My post counter seems to be stuck on by Quin the Eskimo	Aug 17th, 2005 05:44:51 PM
803 ".....Pretty....pretty..."
We aren't here to make 1000 posts, we are here to talk about by John-Locke	Aug 17th, 2005 05:45:24 PM
The War on Cheese in Europe has got to be stopped, when will the suffering end?
damn brie on my enter key, curse you tell oh blue one!!! by TonyWilson	Aug 17th, 2005 05:45:29 PM

Speaking of nothing whatsoever... by DocPazuzu	Aug 17th, 2005 05:45:41 PM
...where's the Days of Thunder fan resurgence? You know you want it.
BAK ON 2PIC!1!1!1 OMG LOL by BurlIvesLeftNut	Aug 17th, 2005 05:46:08 PM
Golden Age Aquaman In his Golden Age appearances, as seen in his first appearance in More Fun Comics #73 (November 1941), Aquaman was presented as the son of a human scientist who gave him the ability to survive and breathe underwater, but had no other powers whatsoever. This version of Aquaman was, in later years (after the establishment of DC Comics' multiverse) described as being the Aquaman of Earth-Two, an alternate Earth. The only appearances of the Golden Age/Earth-Two version of Aquaman after the Golden Age were in All-Star Squadron #59 and #60, just before he was retroactively eliminated from existence due to the changes wrought to DC's history by 1985's Crisis on Infinite Earths. In 1946, Aquaman's adventures moved from More Fun Comics to Adventure Comics, where he remained through the rest of the 1940s, the 1950s and early 1960s as a backup feature to the book's star, Superboy. Most of Aquaman's adventures in the 1940s and 1950s consisted of Aquaman dealing with various criminals, pirates, and so forth, as well as threats to aquatic life and sailors. The first recurring supporting character Aquaman gained was Topo, his pet octopus, in Adventure Comics #229 in October 1956. [edit] Silver Age Aquaman Starting in 1959, Aquaman saw his first major revisions to his mythos since the Golden Age, with various new supporting characters and adjustments made to to the character. In Adventure Comics #260 and subsequent Silver Age comics, it was revealed that Aquaman was Arthur Curry, the son of a human lighthouse keeper named Tom Curry and his mother Atlanna, an outcast from the lost continent of Atlantis. Due to this heritage, Aquaman soon discovered as a youth that he possessed various aquatic abilities, including the ability to survive underwater, communicate with sea life, and tremendous swimming abilities. Eventually, Arthur decided to use his talents to become the defender of the Earth's oceans and its inhabitants, starting a career as "Aquaboy." As Aquaboy, he eventually met Superboy (Earth's only other superpowered superhero at the time) on one occasion (Superboy (volume 1) #171). Eventually, Arthur grew up and changed his name to "Aquaman." In 1960, Aquaman became included in the Justice League of America comic, appearing with the team in its very first appearance in Brave and the Bold #28, and later revealed to be a founding member (as shown in flashback in Justice League of America #9). Aquaman took part in most of the 1960s adventures of the superhero team. Around this time, Aquaman also began gaining his familiar cast of allies and enemies, starting in Adventure Comics #269 (February 1960)), which introduced Aqualad, an outcast orphan youth from Atlantis whom Aquaman takes in. Aquaman gained his own comic for the first time in 1962, which saw further additions to Aquaman's mythos, including the introduction of Mera (in Aquaman (volume 1) #11, September-October 1963), the queen of an aquatic world in another dimension; eventually, Mera and Aquaman became wed (in Aquman (volume 1) #18, November-December 1964), with the two having a child together (named Arthur Jr. or "Aquababy"). The 1960s also saw the introduction of enemies such as Ocean Master and Black Manta, would-be conquerors of the sea. A noteworthy story of this era is Adventure Comics #452 (July-August 1977), in which Black Manta (as part of a trap) killed Aquaman's infant son. In the early 1980s, Aquaman disbanded the Justice League, and reformed the team with a group of younger members, as well as relocating the team to headquarters in Detroit, Michigan; this new version of the team, however, proved short-lived, and was disbanded soon following the events of the 1985 miniseries Crisis on Infinite Earths. [edit] Modern Age Aquaman In 1986, following Crisis on Infinite Earths, a four-issue Aquaman miniseries was published, featuring Aquaman in a new costume. The series failed to stir much interest, however, and was soon forgotten. In 1989, Aquaman received notice again with that year's The Legend of Aquaman special, which was soon followed by a five-issue miniseries. The following year saw the publication of The Atlantis Chronicles, which revived interest in the character. In 1991, a 13-issue Aquaman comic was published. In 1993, Aquaman received another miniseries, Aquaman: Time and Tide; the four-issue miniseries delved into further details about Aquaman's origins. In August 1994, Aquaman finally received his own comic again, written by comics writer Peter David. This series ran for 75 issues. In 2002, a new Aquaman series began publication, and is currently still being published by DC. [edit] Modern origin and background After the 1985 miniseries Crisis on Infinite Earths, several miniseries in the late 1980s and early 1990s attempted to rewrite the Sea King's mythos and origin, though keeping most of his Silver Age history intact; the current version of Aquaman's origin and history is as follows: Aquaman, born as Orin to Atlantis Queen Atlanna and the mysterious wizard Atlan, was abandoned on Mercy Reef as a baby because of his blonde hair, which was seen by the superstitious Atlanteans as a curse they called "the Mark of Kordax." The only one who spoke up on Orin's behalf was Vulko, a scientist who had no time for myth or superstition, and while his pleas had no effect, Vulko would later become a close friend and advisor of Orin's. Orin was found on the reef by dolphins; one of the dolphins, named Porm, took Orin in and became his adopted mother. As a child, Orin was found and taken in by a lighthouse keeper who gave him his own name, Arthur Curry. One day Orin returned to the lighthouse and found Arthur gone, so he set off on his own. In his early teens, Orin ventured to the far north, where he met and fell in love with an Inupiat named Kako. He also first earned the hatred of Orm, the future Ocean Master, who would prove to be his half-brother. He was driven away before he knew Kako had become pregnant with his son, Koryak. Orin returned to the seas; he crossed paths with humans from time to time but for the most part he stayed well out of the reach of humanity, until a fateful day when Orin happened on the city of his birth, Atlantis. He was captured by the then-dictatorial government of the city and placed in a prison camp. He was helped by Vulko, at the time also a prisoner of the state, who taught Orin the language and ways of the Atlanteans. While Orin was there he realized that his mother was also being held captive, but once she was killed he broke out and fled. Eventually, Orin made his way to the surface world, and became a hero named "Aquaman." From this point on, Aquaman's history mostly follows his Silver Age history outlined above, though with a few differences. When Aquaman eventually returned to Atlantis, he found that the citizens had been inspired to free themselves by his daring escape and that Atlantis was now a free city. Aquaman was recognized as the son of Queen Atlanna and so he became the King of Atlantis. Aquaman began a policy of slowly reintroducing Atlantis to the surface world, though after being ousted by a villain named Shark, he decided to become a more traditional superhero, even though with Shark's defeat he could have ascended the throne again. Around this time, Arthur met and married Mera, a queen from another dimension, and they had a son, Arthur Jr. Eventually, Aquaman's foe Black Manta kidnapped and ultimately murdered Arthur Jr., causing a rift between Aquaman and his wife. Mera had been driven insane by grief and was soon committed to an asylum in Poseidonis. Shortly afterwards, an alien force conquered Atlantis. Arthur was forced to save the day, and in the process was hampered by an escaped Mera who personally blamed Arthur for the death of their son. In a fit of rage, Mera left Aquaman's dimension. After Atlantis was freed, Arthur knew he had to remain in Atlantis, and thus he resigned from the Justice League. For a time, he served as Atlantis's representative to the United Nations, but always found himself thrust back into the superhero role. Becoming more and more of a workaholic and solitary figure, Aquaman eventually returned to the oceans. He soon became tangled up in Black Manta's latest attempt at destroying Atlantis by dragging it into a war with a surface nation. In the aftermath of the war, Arthur received the Atlantis Chronicles, thus learning all about the history of his people and discovering that Ocean Master was really his half-brother, Orm. With all the chaos in his life, Arthur fell into a bout of severe depression. Around the time of the Zero Hour storyline, Arthur was forced to return to action, compelled by his longtime partner Aqualad. Shortly into his new adventures, Aquaman lost his hand when the madman Charybdis stole his ability to communicate with sea life and stuck Arthur's hand in a pool of water teeming with piranhas. This caused him to become somewhat unhinged, and Aquaman soon began having prophetic dreams. Aquaman soon after fitted a harpoon for his missing hand. At first, it was just a crude hook, but after the hook's destruction, Aquaman had it replaced with a cybernetic replacement from S.T.A.R. Labs. This new harpoon had a retractable reel that he could fully control.
I don't see any fun dollars. by adambalm	Aug 17th, 2005 05:46:26 PM
I don't think you're really wanting the fun dollar....
I'd buy THAT for a fun-dollar! by WONKABAR	Aug 17th, 2005 05:46:26 PM

You can blame the cheese by Quin the Eskimo	Aug 17th, 2005 05:47:09 PM
wars on the Cathloic church.. BUT THE PROCESSED MEAT..Robert Bird
TonyWilson... by DocPazuzu	Aug 17th, 2005 05:47:12 PM
...Lets just say I had my suspicions.
I can beat you Matrix!!! by Brit Pop	Aug 17th, 2005 05:48:11 PM
I read that article too!! Its bloody funny!!! A bit like the homoeroticism in Top Gun. Scary!!!
It's not like... by DocPazuzu	Aug 17th, 2005 05:48:35 PM
...Vernon "assless chaps & mohawk" Wells made it THAT much of a stretch. I just needed some backup.
Orande and green really kinda suck together. by WONKABAR	Aug 17th, 2005 05:49:56 PM
Aquaman looks sorta cheesy.
I'm kind of alarmed... by DocPazuzu	Aug 17th, 2005 05:51:12 PM
...that the post count has been stuck at "803" for at least an hour now...
Hey Adam, is that Fun Dollar from Mad TV? by John-Locke	Aug 17th, 2005 05:51:22 PM
You gentleman.
I meant Orage by WONKABAR	Aug 17th, 2005 05:51:38 PM

I'm kind of alarmed that you care... by BurlIvesLeftNut	Aug 17th, 2005 05:53:44 PM
Especially where cheese is involved.
Don't you mean Orange? by John-Locke	Aug 17th, 2005 05:53:52 PM

FIRST! by adambalm	Aug 17th, 2005 05:55:21 PM
Eat my dust!
anyone remember Airwolf? by LordVoldemoo	Aug 17th, 2005 05:55:25 PM
that show was kinda cheesy, but cool.
Does anyone remember that Monty Python cheese shop skit? by DocPazuzu	Aug 17th, 2005 05:55:56 PM
I know it's supposed to be in poor taste to quote MP these days, but fuck it.
er ORANGe by WONKABAR	Aug 17th, 2005 05:56:01 PM
I like studly gentleman cheese
And yes... by adambalm	Aug 17th, 2005 05:56:36 PM
Fun dollar is from a MadTV episode. Funny you should ask...
wtf is this? by BurlIvesLeftNut	Aug 17th, 2005 05:57:31 PM
http://i21.photobucket.com/alb ums/b263/DinoDeLaurentiis/harr y_dancing.gif
OMG NO!!! by adambalm	Aug 17th, 2005 05:59:24 PM

That is the most disgusting image I have ever seen. by adambalm	Aug 17th, 2005 06:05:10 PM
Do NOT click on that!
dammit burl by LordVoldemoo	Aug 17th, 2005 06:05:12 PM
now it's gonna spread like herpes in a frathouse.
Um, Burl WTF has the dancing Harry Bambino have to do with Chees by John-Locke	Aug 17th, 2005 06:05:35 PM
Stay on topic will ya?
"I think you'll find it's a bit runny, sir..." by DocPazuzu	Aug 17th, 2005 06:07:03 PM
"I don't care how FUCKING runny it is - hand it over with all speed."
FIRST!! by chhun23	Aug 17th, 2005 06:07:22 PM

Check again! by adambalm	Aug 17th, 2005 06:08:58 PM
I'm first numbnuts! God I hate it when people don't check the TBs before they post 'first!'...
Seems To Be Hovering Around 803 by ZombieSolutions	Aug 17th, 2005 06:09:04 PM
wtf?!?!
eh by BurlIvesLeftNut	Aug 17th, 2005 06:10:19 PM
TEH PLAEYRS O CLESA - MOUSABNDER MICHAAL PALIN - WENSLEYDAEL TEH SCAN3 AN EDWARDIAN-STYL3 SHOP WHICH CAREIS DA SIGNS YA OLD3 CHES3 EMPORIUM H3NRY WANSL3YDAEL PURVEYOR OF FIEN CHESE 2 TEH G3NTRY AND DA POV3RTY STRIKEN 2 LIECNS3D FOR PUBLIC DANCNG TWO MEN DRES3D AS CITY GANTS R GREK DANCNG IN TEH CORNER 2 DA MUSIC OF A BOUZOUKI 11!!1!1 OMG LOL MOUS3BNDER ENT3RS!1!1 OMG MOUSEBNDER GOD MORNNG WENSL3YDAEL 1!!!!1 WTF GOD MORNNG SIR11!11! OMG LOL WALCOM3 2 TEH NATIONAL CHES3 EMPORIUM MOUS3BNDER 11!11 OMG WTF LOL AH THANK U MAH GOD MAN WENSLEYDAEL 1!!1! LOL WUT CAN I DO FOR U SIR MOUS3BNDAR ??????! W3L I WAS UH SITNG IN DA PUBLIC LIBERRY ON THURMOND STRET JUST NOW SKIMNG THROUGH ROGUE H3REIS BY HUGH WALPOLE AND I SUDENLY CME OVER AL PEKISH W3NSLAYDAEL 1!11 LOL PEKISH SIR MOUSEBND3R ?!!?? WTF 3SUREINT WANSLAYDAEL 1!!!1!1 LOL EH MOUS3BNDER ?!??!! WTF LOL (IN A BROAD YORKSHIER ACENT) E3 I W3R3 AL HUNGRY LIEK WENSLAYDAEL !!11! WTF LOL AH HUNGRY MOUSEBNDER 11!11 OMG WTF IN A NUTSHAL!!1!11 OMG WTF LOL AND I THOUGHT 2 MYSELF A LITL3 FERMENTAD CURD WIL DO DA TRIK!111!1! WTF SO I CURTALEED MAH WALPOLNG ACTIVIETS SALEID FORTH AND INFILTRAETD UR PLAEC OF PURV3YANCE 2 NEGOTIAET DA V3NDNG OF SOM3 CHESY COMASTIBL3S WENSLAYDAEL !!!! LOL COM3 AGANE MOUS3BND3R ?!??!??!! OMG WTF I WANT 2 BUY SOM3 CHES3 W3NSL3YDAEL 1!!!!!!! LOL O I THOUGHT U W3RE COMPLANENG ABOUT TEH BOUZOUKI PLAEYR MOUSEBNDAR !!!1! OMG WTF O H3AEVN FORBID!!1! WTF LOL IM ONA WHO DALIGHTS IN AL MANIEFSTATIONS OF DA TERPSICHOR3AN MUSE WENSL3YDAEL !1!!! OMG LOL SORY MOUSEBNDER ???!? LOL (IN A BROAD YORKSHIER AC3NT) OO I LIEK A NIEC TUN3 - UR FORC3D 2 WENSLAYDAEL !1!11!! SO H3 CAN GO ON PLAYNG CAN HE MOUSEBND3R ?!?!!! LOL MOST CERTANELY!1!!! OMG NOW TH3N SOME CHESA PLZ MAH GOD MAN W3NSLAYDAEL 11!!1! OMG WTF LOL CERTANELY SIR!!!!! LOL WUT WUD U LIEK MOUSEBND3R ?!?!!!?!! WTF LOL WEL EH HOW ABOUT A LITLE RAD LEIECSTAR W3NSL3YDAEL ?!!!! IMM AFRADE WERE FRASH OUT OF R3D LEIECST3R SIR MOUSEBNDAR !!!11 O N3VAR MIND HOW R U ON TILSIT W3NSLEYDAEL ????! WTF LOL IMM AFRADE W3 N3VER HAEV TAHT AT TEH END OF TEH WEK SIR!!1!!!! LOL W3 GET IT FRESH ON MONDAY MOUSEBNDAR 111!1!11 LOL TISH TISH1!!1!1 WTF LOL NO MATER1111 W3L S2UT Y3OMAN FOUR OUNCES OF CA3RPHILY IF U PLZ!!1! OMG AH!!!1!11! WTF LOL ITS BEN ON ORDER SIR FOR TWO WEKS11!!1!1 WTF I WAS 3XP3CTNG IT THIS MORNNG MOUSEBNDER !11!1!1 OMG WTF LOL ITS NOT MAH LUKY DAY IS IT?!!!!!?? AR BL PAESA WENSLEYDAEL ?!??!?? WTF LOL SORY SIR MOUSABNDAR 1!1!1! LOL RED WINDSOR W3NSLAYDAEL ?!!!!!?! NORMALY SIR YES!!!1!1!1 OMG WTF LOL 2DAY TEH VAN BROK3 DOWN MOUSEBNDAR !!!1 WTF LOL AH1!11 LOL STIL2N WENSL3YDAEL ?!!!!!! LOL SORY MOUSEBND3R 11!!11! OMG WTF LOL 3M3NTAL?!????! OMG WTF GRUY
Impossible task... by Brit Pop	Aug 17th, 2005 06:10:30 PM
Someone is gonna have to count the posts - I nominate Burl!
marvels at the progression of this TB by DocPazuzu	Aug 17th, 2005 06:11:27 PM
It went from true PC indignation at the term "aquafag", to PC terms in general, to right/left politics, to religion, to sad trollers, to religion again, to cheese and finally to chhun23's truly inspired "FIRST!"
I'm too busy by BurlIvesLeftNut	Aug 17th, 2005 06:11:33 PM
Dreaming of cheese.
Burl by DocPazuzu	Aug 17th, 2005 06:14:20 PM
I truly hope you've got some sick program that somehow translates large texts to that shit, because if you actually typed the whole Monty Python cheese skit in that fashion I may have to sleep with the light on tonight. Yes, it's that creepy.
I didn't type all that! by BurlIvesLeftNut	Aug 17th, 2005 06:15:33 PM
My filipino slave children did. Are you less creeped now?
senses a slowdown by DocPazuzu	Aug 17th, 2005 06:16:13 PM
We're not gonna make it... fights lethargy
Shit yeah, he typed it all out by adambalm	Aug 17th, 2005 06:16:38 PM
Burl is hardcore. Burl has pow3rful code-fu. Burl is the real deal. Burl is a man's man. (In many senses..)
Thanks one and all... by DocPazuzu	Aug 17th, 2005 06:17:57 PM
...it was a brave effort.
Burl is a Flesh-Man-Cub-Lolly by John-Locke	Aug 17th, 2005 06:18:20 PM
and a gentleman.
woof by BurlIvesLeftNut	Aug 17th, 2005 06:18:31 PM
Nice post, cub. You'd make a cheesy fucking husbear, that's fer sur.
I suppose the real challenge.... by DocPazuzu	Aug 17th, 2005 06:19:42 PM
...would be turning an AICN-Anime talback into a thousand-poster.
draws curtains by adambalm	Aug 17th, 2005 06:20:42 PM
Well, I think that John Locke just asked Ms. Bear Burl to marry him. And I think she just said yes. Catch the rest on Animal Planet....after dark. ;)
I Just Wanna Say It's Been Great, And I'm Glad To Have B by ZombieSolutions	Aug 17th, 2005 06:20:42 PM
inside, i am weeping with a near psychotic level of soul-expanding joy
A nether region? by adambalm	Aug 17th, 2005 06:22:40 PM
A phantom new dimension? Such a place could not exist!
by BurlIvesLeftNut	Aug 17th, 2005 06:23:10 PM
REPUBLICANS DISGUST MA11!!!!11 OMG THEY R LIARS AND MANIPULA2RS11!!1!1! OMG DIVIEDRS11111!! OMG WTF LOL FAAR MONGERS!111!1!1 OMG SMILNG WHEN THEY TOK ABOUT WAR AND GRINNG WHAN THAY T3L THEYRE LEIS AND DIS2RT THEYRE RACORD!!!!11 WTF LOL TRYNG 2 IMPOSA THEYRE HAETFUL MORALS ON DA REST OF TEH WORLD THEY
So... This Is What It Sounds Like When Doves Cry by ZombieSolutions	Aug 17th, 2005 06:23:51 PM
it's... full of stars
"All of our extra posts have been going into that "nether-region by DocPazuzu	Aug 17th, 2005 06:23:56 PM
That must be that other Internet Georgie-Prez was talking about.
Yes, this is where Jor-El put all the criminals by adambalm	Aug 17th, 2005 06:24:47 PM
Chaos rules here.
Did he just call me a cunt? anchorite did you just call me a cun by John-Locke	Aug 17th, 2005 06:25:16 PM
Burl my dark red hanky has been left in his right pocket, lets get him!!!!
You are insane by adambalm	Aug 17th, 2005 06:27:06 PM
That was in a movie, jackass.
HUH? by adambalm	Aug 17th, 2005 06:28:08 PM

Whoa whoa whoa... by BurlIvesLeftNut	Aug 17th, 2005 06:29:05 PM
What the HELL is going on here?
All will be revealed in due course by John-Locke	Aug 17th, 2005 06:29:11 PM
Gentleman.
by adambalm	Aug 17th, 2005 06:29:23 PM
Some kind of zone, in any event. Try taking two tylenol and then a nap. I'm sure it'll pass.
"phantom talkback area" by DocPazuzu	Aug 17th, 2005 06:29:36 PM
God, I hope so. Maybe we could retrieve the incredible deleted ramblings of CocoLopez and fettastic and somehow harness their sheer destructive power. We weel rool de WOOOORRRLLLLLLDDD!!!!!
THERE"S A MAN ON THE WING!!! by John-Locke	Aug 17th, 2005 06:30:41 PM
WANT TO SEE SOMETHING REALLY SCARY?
anchorite by LordVoldemoo	Aug 17th, 2005 06:30:56 PM
I have no idea what you're talking about? what "phantom talkback area"? how did they find it? Is it, maybe...just maybe, possible that you are actually going insane?
Yes, It Must Have Got Lost In The Internets by ZombieSolutions	Aug 17th, 2005 06:31:06 PM
all one of them.
What IS going on here? by adambalm	Aug 17th, 2005 06:31:58 PM
WTF? This is so weird. All the colors are bright and everyone's an asshole. Where am I??!?! How did I get here?!?!?!?
COCLOPZ by BurlIvesLeftNut	Aug 17th, 2005 06:32:33 PM
YO BUS DIS!!!11!1 WTF HA HEART UH D3 COCONUT HAD LONG B3N AN IMPORTANT INREDEINT IN MANY D3LICIOUS DASERTS FROM D3 TROPICAL ISLANDS11!! OMG WTF DE PROBM WUZ DAT GATIN DA COCONUT CREM FROM D3 PULP WUZ EASIUH SADE THAN DONE1!!!!!! OMG DON RMON LOPEZ IRIZARY SAT OUT 2 FIN AN AASIUH WAY UH DOIN DIS1111111 OMG LOL IN HIS SMAL LABORA2RY IN PU3R2 RICO H3 DAVELOPED DE ORIGINAL COCO LOPAZ BY BL3NDIN DE D3LICIOUS CR3M FROM DE HEARTS UH CARIBEAN COCONUTS WIT DE EXACT PROPORTION UH NATURAL CAEN SUGAR!!1!1!! WTF SE WUT IMM SAYIN?!!??! OMG WTF SUDENLY COCO LOPEZ GETS D3 BASIS FUH A FABULOUS TROPICAL DRINK CALED PI
"phantom talkback area" by DocPazuzu	Aug 17th, 2005 06:32:55 PM
I don't know if it's because I'm incredibly tired, but that whole concept is cracking me up. The possibilities!
oh, dudes, anchorite's cracking up. A phantom talkback zone? by TonyWilson	Aug 17th, 2005 06:32:56 PM
In the words of Alan Partidge___________SMELL MY CHEESE!!!___________
Okay, I have now officially entered the Twilight Zone by LordVoldemoo	Aug 17th, 2005 06:33:24 PM
no, anchorite, you haven't entered the zone...maybe someday if you're lucky.
Master Blaster Runs Bartertown by ZombieSolutions	Aug 17th, 2005 06:33:40 PM
and methane commeth from pigshit
FOR GODSAKE by adambalm	Aug 17th, 2005 06:33:43 PM
CAN WE PLEASE FOCUS ON THE CHEESE??!! FO-CUS!!!!
All the colors are bright by LordVoldemoo	Aug 17th, 2005 06:34:57 PM
LOL, Adam I noticed that too!
you know what's rank? by BurlIvesLeftNut	Aug 17th, 2005 06:35:38 PM
Fucking American cheese. Henceforth, we should call it Republican Cheese. Fucking bland, nasty shit. People in fucking Tennessee eat it and think they are kinky. LAME.
The biggest question... by DocPazuzu	Aug 17th, 2005 06:35:42 PM
...must be what kind of shut-off number is 803 posts? It makes Douglas Adams' number seem perfectly logical. I mean WTF?
Adam's right by LordVoldemoo	Aug 17th, 2005 06:36:42 PM
I prefer my grilled cheese sandwiches made with cheddar...discuss?
ZombieSolutions by DocPazuzu	Aug 17th, 2005 06:36:57 PM
"Lift embargo!"
seriously Anchorite by BurlIvesLeftNut	Aug 17th, 2005 06:37:14 PM
If there were such a place, do you think we'd believe you would actually be welcome there? Because IT sounds cool.
MINI BABY BEL by John-Locke	Aug 17th, 2005 06:37:29 PM
Do you guy's get Mini Baby Bel in the States? they are small individually wrapped cheeses with a jacket of soft red wax, ba ba ba, ba Baby bel.
Take anchorite to room 101 by adambalm	Aug 17th, 2005 06:37:44 PM
We will make you well again. We shall hollow you out, and we will fill you with ourselves.
One Man's "Process" Is Another Man's "Civil War" by ZombieSolutions	Aug 17th, 2005 06:37:51 PM
when you live in a bubble, disconnected from all reality, a "Civil War" really does look like a "Process". the process of thousands upon thousands of people dying for no reason. praise jeebus.
anchorite by DocPazuzu	Aug 17th, 2005 06:39:05 PM
I think you may have been kneeling before Zod a bit too much, if you know what I mean. Shake it off.
"it had no header....." by TonyWilson	Aug 17th, 2005 06:39:50 PM
Dude WTF?!?! A talkbakc with no header, yeh in a bizarro world. Don't let Jar Jar read that, he will have ammo on your for weeks.____________EDAM IS DA FIRST!!!!!__________
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