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Peter Jennings Is Gone

"Yousa people gunna die?" by moodshots	Aug 7th, 2005 11:36:14 PM
first?
Thank you, Mr. Jennings for all of your efforts by YackBacker	Aug 7th, 2005 11:36:35 PM
What a unique and generous man he was. I don't even think it's hyperbole to say we will never see a person of his talents and his curiosity in that anchor position again. While the television news business degrades constantly towards the superficial and uninformed, Mr. Jennings kept presure on his subordinates to make the best efforts to get the stories done right. Was he a saint? Who cares. Was he a great newsman? Absolutely. I only hope his legacy is one that drives others in the business to take more care in doing their jobs. Goodbye, Mr. Jennings.
and second by moodshots	Aug 7th, 2005 11:36:43 PM
is it possible?
moodshots, go find a streetsweeper and lie down in front of it by YackBacker	Aug 7th, 2005 11:37:18 PM
Jagoff
First, with integrity by SydBarretsMyDad	Aug 7th, 2005 11:37:22 PM
I liked Jennings. Sad to see him gone.
by Mostholy	Aug 7th, 2005 11:37:28 PM
Can't say I watched ABC either...but I preferred him to Brokaw.
life isn't fair by Darth Philbin	Aug 7th, 2005 11:45:44 PM
Couldn't the Lord have taken Matt Lauer or Bill O'Reilly instead?
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!! by ChristianZane	Aug 7th, 2005 11:47:42 PM

Lauer! if he died the only way it would warant a "Talkback" wou by YackBacker	Aug 7th, 2005 11:48:28 PM
Those two are scum. I don't even put them and Jennings in the same phylum.
Jeez, more bad news. R.I.P Peter Jennings. by The Founder	Aug 7th, 2005 11:48:33 PM

AMEN YackBacker AMEN! by The Founder	Aug 7th, 2005 11:53:45 PM
No truer post has been posted here. it pains me that i have to get a decent news story from the internest, while tv news moves more and more towards the superficial and crap celebs like paris Hilton to mention one in a long list of crap people who now floods our airwaves as if they are important. I could go on, but Jennings did indeed do his best to inform the American people of the important news.
I watched him growing up... by Rindain	Aug 7th, 2005 11:53:59 PM
Very sad to see him gone. Especially with the advent of biased cable news, there seems to be very little "real" journalism left, in print or on tv.
Thanks Marlboro Man by ChristianZane	Aug 7th, 2005 11:55:49 PM
Peter Jennings quit smoking 20 years ago which shows that ex-smokers are far from safe from lung cancer. He admitted he started up again after the 9-11 attacks, but it just goes to show that smoking sucks.
An Irish Belssing... by MasterWhedon	Aug 7th, 2005 11:57:31 PM
"May the road rise up to meet you, may the wind be always at your back, may the Lord always hold you in the hollow of His hand." G'journey, Mr. Jennigs. You will be missed.
ABC cut in programming to show this by Moe Ron	Aug 8th, 2005 12:01:33 AM
I always liked Jennings. The world has lost a great newsman.
RIP Peter Jennings by IamNumber1	Aug 8th, 2005 12:05:07 AM
this comes as a shock. I hope he's found peace.
Jennings was a liberal Canadian who never even finished high sch by Hell's Cigarette	Aug 8th, 2005 12:09:02 AM
RIP Peter!
Poor Guy by SaintX99	Aug 8th, 2005 12:15:52 AM
I'm sure he put up a good fight, it must have been pretty bad, RIP Mr. Jennings
Sad... by PynkSpyder	Aug 8th, 2005 12:33:00 AM
Peter Jennings was the face I associated with the news, growing up. Sad to see him gone.
May his soul be in peace. by GiftedInThePants	Aug 8th, 2005 12:34:32 AM

I met Jennings once...he was a class act. by Andy Travis	Aug 8th, 2005 12:45:34 AM
Met him at my job a couple years ago...very nice, approachable guy. Especially for five-in-the-morning.
Friggin' cancer sticks by KazamaSmokers	Aug 8th, 2005 12:53:46 AM
Jennings picked a good time to go. TV News is a dinosaur. RIP Peter.
Just to bring a little humor into it by YouInRawbIns?	Aug 8th, 2005 12:59:48 AM
I love the full title and author combination of "May his soul be in peace. By GiftedInThePants" Awesome. R.I.P. Peter, man, that came on and took him very fast. And he even remained positive until the end. He was on TV only 3 weeks ago or so to update his condition. . . wow.
RIP by Ill Clinton	Aug 8th, 2005 01:03:28 AM

Sad that Harry had to ask "Be kind..." and yet some of you manag by aceattorney	Aug 8th, 2005 01:05:14 AM
Congrats!
Sad day indeed by LeckoManiac	Aug 8th, 2005 01:05:36 AM
I always liked Peter...seemed like a class act...this is a dark day indeed
Father of News by brit3424	Aug 8th, 2005 01:06:04 AM
I work at a TV station in Illinois. When I saw Jennings had died earlier tonight, the whole newsrioom fell silent. He was what everyone in the news business inspires to be. He will be missed.
Rest in peace, man. by dr_dreadlocks	Aug 8th, 2005 01:12:11 AM
Anyone who says anything aside from "He was a great man." is an idiot. But... what else could any of us expect?
I'm not just saying this, because he passed on, but of the 3 by Orionsangels	Aug 8th, 2005 01:17:17 AM
He seemed genuine and honest in his reporting. You felt like he cared, where the other two were more arrogant and cold in their news reporting. Bless his family
Aceattorney you knucklehead by ChristianZane	Aug 8th, 2005 01:27:57 AM
If you have actually taken the time to read the posts, you would find that not one person had anything bad to say about the guy...
Don't weep for Jennings. At least now he'll get to inte by Some Dude	Aug 8th, 2005 01:28:20 AM
Right? I mean, come on. You know all that stuff is real, right?
World News Tonight by Electric_Monk	Aug 8th, 2005 01:32:58 AM
In the age of cable news, where the commentators are more entertainers than actual journalist, Peter Jennings raised the bar on bringing us the world. Ture, network new may be a dinosaur, but I prefer it over anything FOXNEWS or CNN can show you. He had class and while many people on the Right will say he was too much a liberal, he always outshined them and will be long remembered as a soothing voice among the cacophony of dissenting talking heads who think ratings are more important than communicating important news. ABC has always been my favorite network to hear the news, and during 9/11 I found it more insightful than FOX and CNN put together. And while I felt deep down inside that when he signed off back in April that it would be the last time he would be seen, I hoped that he could beat the cancer. I lost my dad to lung cancer 37 years ago when I was 5. Smoking will kill you, and we should encourage everyone -especially today's young and teenagers, that you could smoke for 60 years and die of old age, or you can die at 33 like my father did. Rest in peace, Mr. Jennings. We hardly knew you.
whoa by barryap	Aug 8th, 2005 01:42:37 AM
Mine was always a Peter Jennings household...this caught me off guard.
Smoking and lung cancer. by Shan	Aug 8th, 2005 01:58:52 AM
Dan Lee, who I believe was head animator of Pixar died recently at 35 from lung cancer and he never smoked. He was very unlucky. If you give up smoking, the longer the time passes from when you quit, the less your risk is going to be but you can never get it to zero. However, don't let that stop you from trying to quit, it's in your best interests, really ...
Does Tom Brokaw have an alibi? by Thunderpants	Aug 8th, 2005 02:06:26 AM

Rest In Peace. by Psyclops	Aug 8th, 2005 02:14:25 AM
Sad that he had to go out this way. People like Peter Jennings, Dan Rather and Ted Koppel are so ingrained in my memory that it's hard for me to imagine television without them. May he rest in peace.
Journalism is dying. by ZeroCorpse	Aug 8th, 2005 02:26:43 AM
The old guard are dying off, leaving scumbags and charlatans to hold the line and keep up the traditions of journalism (which they are not upholding at all). Jennings was a real journalist, and it's shame he had to go, and yet people like Tucker Carlson and Bill O'Reilly are still with us. The good die young.
Peter Jennings should be replaced by RON BURGUNDY by krullboy	Aug 8th, 2005 02:53:26 AM
Stay classy, San Diego!!!
"yet people like Tucker Carlson and Bill O'Reilly are still by krullboy	Aug 8th, 2005 02:57:40 AM
Well, if you don't like them, don't listen to them. Of course, you could always get your news from Channel One or Genine Garafollo (sp), but fuck all. The networks lost because they anchors had unlubed cucumbers up their asses. People turned to Fox News because the anchors are more down to Earth.
Rest In Peace! by Waspo	Aug 8th, 2005 03:12:13 AM
May your soul and spirit rest for all of time.
"Down to earth Fox News anchors" by ChristianZane	Aug 8th, 2005 03:31:08 AM
krullboy for the love of God I hope that was a cruel joke... Sean Hannity and Bill O'Reilly... yea 'down-to-earth' guys lol.
Christian Zane, I was referring to the people on Fox and Friends by krullboy	Aug 8th, 2005 03:56:10 AM
needed to clear that up
He said that he didn't believe in religion or God, so I seri by Swarmy	Aug 8th, 2005 04:42:07 AM

And from all of us- Good night Mr. Jennings... by Master Bruce	Aug 8th, 2005 04:51:23 AM
and Godspeed. First Tom Brokaw retires, then Dan Rather is forced to step down & now, Peter Jennings has passed on. It truly is the end of an era for network t.v. news.
RIP Jennings... if only Joss Whedon was God by Razorback	Aug 8th, 2005 05:08:54 AM
You might only be canceled but still alive.
RIP Peter by lindyboy	Aug 8th, 2005 06:48:07 AM
Though I was very young, I recall that Peter Jennings on World News tonight was my first exposure to TV news. By the time I saw him, he'd already secured the anchor's chair, however before that, he was one of the youngest to do that in his first run at ABC (he was in studio commentator by age 27)Jennings was always a professional, who exhibited a great deal of poise in his broadcast. I admit in contrast to today's anchors, he will be recognized as the last of a breed. We may never see his like again.
All 3 Network Anchors wiped out in 6 months by Sam Kinison	Aug 8th, 2005 06:50:08 AM
After close to a quarter of a century on the air, they all end up leaving within a matter of weeks. Dan Rather disgracefully, Tom Brokaw with dignity and Peter Jennings permanently.
So sad. I grew up watching Mr. Jennings. And he was the only anc by Mr. Profit	Aug 8th, 2005 07:09:34 AM
He was a real anchor, and we wont see great anchors like him anymore. I loved the fact that he was so proper yet he never graduated High School. He'll be missed.
Goodbye by thomasgaffney	Aug 8th, 2005 07:12:42 AM
So long, Mr. Jennings. Thanks for all the news.....
Good Ridance by powerplaygraphix	Aug 8th, 2005 07:34:52 AM
Hope you're enjoying the heat!
Who will step in to fill his shoes and finish King Kong? by ATARI	Aug 8th, 2005 07:59:33 AM

Yet another Left-leaning news anchor out of the picture. A dark by anchorite	Aug 8th, 2005 08:17:37 AM

Left Leaning? Are You Serious? by ZombieSolutions	Aug 8th, 2005 09:12:55 AM
oh god, not this again. there IS NO LIBERAL MEDIA BIAS. there is, however a BLATANT CONSERVATIVE MEDIA BIAS. this isn't to say there aren't liberal news outlets, of course there are, but the MAINSTREAM NATIONAL NEWS is overtly RIGHT WING. only loony tunes tinfoil hat wearing RepubliChristian RightWingers think otherwise. for the ReichWingers, anything or anyone to the left of HITLER is a flaming liberal. give me a break and WAKE THE FUCK UP. (the closest thing this country has to totally objective moderate news is NPR, and the RepubliChristian congress hates them and is trying to get them off the air. go figure. only the party line is acceptable, right? onward christian wermacht! praise jesus.
Sorry for his family's loss. May he rest in peace. by vikingkitty	Aug 8th, 2005 09:35:16 AM
Despite the obvious leftwing bias of ABC, I'll miss seeing him on television at my granparents' house.
You Know, I Think GOEBBELS Leaned A Little Too Far To the Left T by ZombieSolutions	Aug 8th, 2005 09:54:46 AM
ah, NeoCons! i can only imagine what reality must look like from inside the fun-house mirror / fever dream nightmare world you live in. don't worry about Jennings, right now he is frolicing about in a magical fantasy land of rainbows and unicorns with God, Jesus, Santa Claus, and the Easter Bunny. Godspeed, anchorman! Godspeed.
..."the closest thing this country has to totally objective mode by anchorite	Aug 8th, 2005 09:58:12 AM
Thanks for the incredibly hard laugh this morning. I was so sad after learning of Jennings' death, but you just managed to cheer me up! Thanks again, Zombie!
RIP by HurlyBurly	Aug 8th, 2005 09:59:55 AM
In a media world where knee jerk opinion (in the form of countless "experts") has replaced deliberation and trivia has replaced fact, seeing another of the old guard journalists leave the stage is sad indeed. So long and thanks for all the News, Mr. Jennings.
Rest in peace sir. by The Heathen	Aug 8th, 2005 10:04:34 AM
Could for once, just once, people on this site show some respect to someone who just passed away. It doesn't matter if you are republican, democrat, liberal, conservative
RIP by Heathicus_Maximu	Aug 8th, 2005 10:06:31 AM
He was my favorite anchor as well. I may not have agreed with his politics, but when he was behind the news desk, he was the best and I've always had a great deal of respect for him. But I'd like to respond to some of the other comments here. First, to ChristianZane: Sean Hannity and Bill O'Reilly are NOT news anchors. They are commentators. They are hosts of debate and commentary shows. That's not an anchor. The closest thing FOX News has to an anchor is Shepard Smith. Secondly, to ZombieSolutions: You can find evidence of both liberal and conservative bias depending on the media outlet. Personally, I think it mostly equals out, but overall leans a tad to the liberal side. And to EVERYONE who likes to talk politics: Anybody who uses words like "ReichWingers" or "Dumbocrats" or "Repugnicans" reveals themselves to be complete morons and invalidates anything they might have to say.
president bush praises peter jennings- by dr.bulber	Aug 8th, 2005 10:20:46 AM
president bush: peter jennings was a newsman. that means, he was a NEWS man. its about the news... from a man. he was "a man of news."
Conservative bias? by mclennon	Aug 8th, 2005 10:30:51 AM
I'd just like to point out that every poll of reporters shows huge left wing biases. Last year there were plenty, funded by the major networks and New York times that showed journalists were more likely to identify themselves as liberal rahter than conservative by a 7 to 1 margin (35% said they were liberal, 5% said conservative, and btw the rest who called themselves moderates are liberals) and were more likely to vote for Kerry by a 12!!! to 1 margin. So explain that one Zombiesolutions... Still sad to see Jennings go.
Peter Jennings is teh suck... by tango fett	Aug 8th, 2005 10:35:58 AM
Not really, he was cool. I watched him sometimes, he was alright. Peace, PJ.
"...objective journalism is necessarily liberal because objectiv by anchorite	Aug 8th, 2005 10:45:04 AM

greatn by Heathicus_Maximu	Aug 8th, 2005 10:47:15 AM
"objective journalism is necessarily liberal because objectivism is a liberal trait" Oh, is that why the left loves Ayn Rand so much? ;)
Dubya just asked God to bless Jennings' soul. Time for you a by anchorite	Aug 8th, 2005 10:49:45 AM
How DARE the president of the United States bring god into this!
i fear for the world of american tv news by rivercb	Aug 8th, 2005 10:52:01 AM
All of the respectable news show anchors are leaving. This idea of a liberal bias only makes sense to conservatives who consistantly watch Fox news. News programs aren't supposed to exist only to confirm your views of the world. Fox isn't a news program at all, but a commentary show, they inject so much of their bias that most other "actual" journalists would be ashamed of admitting. A liberal bias!? it's not really there... there's no boogyman in your closet and Jesus didn't die and ascend into heaven, the fucker's dead. gravy.
R.C.'s condolences to the Jennings Family by R.C. the "Wise"	Aug 8th, 2005 10:59:50 AM
R.I.P.
rivercb by mclennon	Aug 8th, 2005 11:02:53 AM
Can you back up any of that with any real examples, or are you a lazy thinker who just likes to make unfounded accusations? Look at media studies, Fox consistently scores better than any network in the amount of negative coverage given to the parties, in the last election ABC and CBS were the top offenders when it came to discrepancies i.e. giving Kerry an overwhelming amount of positive stories and Bush a overwhelming amount of negative stories. Fox is heavily biased in its' commentatories I admit. But conservatives do better in this format, just look at talk radio where liberals can't make a show sucessful to save their lives.
RIP---You will be missed and remebered!!! by Obredaan	Aug 8th, 2005 11:07:43 AM

bias by Mistah_Scrotie	Aug 8th, 2005 11:11:50 AM
McLennon, the reason that journalists are more likely to vote for Kerry over Bush is because he supports freedom of the press and won't arrest them for not revealing their sources. But to get back on topic, Mr. Jennings will certainly be missed. I cannot think of the last time the death of a complete stranger had shocked and saddened me as much as his has.
Unless you subscribe to the Christian Science Monitor... by KazamaSmokers	Aug 8th, 2005 11:23:29 AM
... you have NO INFORMED FOUNDATION for any opinion on bias in the media. STFU and GBTW.
Pretty sad by JediStryker	Aug 8th, 2005 11:23:38 AM
Not every event that involves a liberal/democrat needs to become a political debate. There are lots of sites out there dedicated to the mindless political squabbling, especially when most of you have probably never voted in your life. \|\| Peter Jennings was an intrepid journalist and from what I have heard a good man. I hope that he has found peace in his new life, and that he had the opportunity to learn of G-d and His love before passing on. Prayers for his family and friends.
mclennon by rivercb	Aug 8th, 2005 11:26:32 AM
If Bush did had an overwhelming amount of negative stories, which I would dispute, it
And after the break- by Kentucky Colonel	Aug 8th, 2005 11:29:05 AM
See ya Peter, you hoser! Keep a chair ready for old Walter C. He'll be joining you for sports and weather, right after these words...
Was Jennings really 67? by The Pusher	Aug 8th, 2005 11:31:09 AM
Wow. I had the man pegged for about 55. Huh. RIP, Mr. Jennings.
"Could for once, just once, people on this site show some respec by MaguaSynfield	Aug 8th, 2005 12:07:34 PM
Apparently not, but a nice try at a call for common decency. Peter Jennings was a decent human being, a true professional & my condolences go to his family, along with my apologies for some of the posters on this TB having severe cranial/rectal inversion issues. Oddly enough my favorite memory of Jennings came from the Daily Show, when John Stewart was hanging around with Jennings. Funny stuff. I thank our northern brothers for the kind loan of Mr. Jennings. We'll miss him.
Let's show some respect. by mistrmindqed	Aug 8th, 2005 12:12:30 PM
Well stated Magua! My condolences go out to Mr. Jennings wife and family. So what if the guy stiffed me on 30 dollars. Am I bitter? Hell no. This guy goes out, in the height of his career, and I'm reduced to buying cat food to feed the family. Would that 30 dollars make a difference right now, sure, but am I bitter toward that no good fuck Peter Jennings? Nah. Rest in peace buddy. Bastard.
The Era of the BIG THREE NETWORK ANCHORS is sadly over by Kikstad	Aug 8th, 2005 12:18:11 PM
For good or bad, Rather-Brokaw-Jennings took America through all the major news-stories the last few decades. Now, as the media environment changes, I don't think a single broadcast journalist can command such power -- connecting to the American people and being a vision of comfort whenever crazy sh*t happens in the world around us. All the network anchors had their detractors, and often rightfully so, but speaking personally, Jennings will be missed. May he rest in peace. (P.S. Maybe his passing will cause some heavy smokers to try quitting again.)
rivercb & Mistah_Scrotie by mclennon	Aug 8th, 2005 12:21:59 PM
Oliver North is a commentator. Still no examples cited as far as regular news stories go. I'm sure there are real examples out there, but for you to not be able to cite any makes me think you are basing your opinion of predjudice rather than fact. Jennings called John Edwards the vice president(more than once) after his debate last year with the real vp Cheney. Honest mistake sure, but if a Fox correspondent had made a similar mistake I doubt you'd give him the same slack. Oh and Scrotie, Bush did not put any journalists in jail. That was a special prosecutor, who everyone was claiming was going after Rove a few weeks ago, so your argument is extremely weak and really silly.
mclennon by rivercb	Aug 8th, 2005 12:46:59 PM
As I said, watch it. If you watched it with an objective viewpoint, you could see for yourself. If you are looking for me to specifically give you examples then go to the mediamatters website (http://mediamatters.org/archi ves/search.html?topic=FOX%20Ne ws%20Channel) and you can view video and audio clips. I know what your thinking, he's just given me some radical left wing fag lovin' bible hatin' website, but it's not just commentary, the clips are available. There's 63 pages of examples. I even just flipped on Fox and they had an overly-dramatic ad for an uncoming program as to whether Edwards was being questioned "too much". Unless they are questioning his kids or going through his garbage, I don't see what the problem is, unless you're a conservative and bothered that he should be examined much before taking a life-tme position. But they're supposedly a news organization, why would they want to keep examining?
I saved Peter from great on-air embarrassment in 1984 by Regis Travolta	Aug 8th, 2005 12:49:46 PM
I was working at KABC in Hollywood and he was here in L.A. for a week of Live West Coast Nightly News broadcasts. Well one day the Soviets announced they were boycotting the Los Angeles Olympics and Peter had to go on the air Live. He was typing his own copy himself onto the computer teleprompter and I was looking over his shoulder with a couple of other curious PA's in the news room. He made a silly mistake and I corrected him, I can't remember exactly what he got wrong it was something to do with when Jimmy Carter announced that we were boycotting the 1980 Games in Moscow and how this was a tit for tat decision by the Russians but I corrected him. He turned to me and said Thank you you're absolutely right. So that was my big brush with fame. Had I not spoken up he would've gone on the air and committed a journalistic faux pas.
Mclennon, thanks for the FACTUAL representation of things, rathe by anchorite	Aug 8th, 2005 01:16:44 PM
Jennings was a very talented news anchor. His suave, debonair manner and mellifluous voice were welcomed into households across the U.S. for generations. He lent an air of dash to the proceedings, that's for sure. But he was in no way an unbiased journalist. He suffered from the same tendency to push his own ideology and political agenda that at least two of his contemporaries, Cronkite and Rather, were so fond of. Since I will no doubt be lambasted for my views, I am posting a few links that anyone interested in learning more about Peter Jennings may visit: http://www.honestreporting.com /articles/45884734/critiques/P eter_Jennings_The_ABCs_of_Bias .asp http://www.mediaresearch.org/P rofiles/jennings/welcome.asp http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNa tion.asp?Page=%5CNation%5Carch ive%5C200305%5CNAT20030512b.ht ml http://www.tzemachdovid.org/Ar ab_Violence/jennings.shtml http://www.fairpress.org/mbow0 2/outragearchive0422.htm Okay, enough with the links. Here's a quote from Jenning himself, from an interview in The Boston Globe: "[Jennings] said he watches Fox News Channel anchor and former ABC colleague Brit Hume's "program when I can, and I don't see the bias there." "Those of us who went into journalism in the '50s or '60s, it was sort of a liberal thing to do. Save the world," he said. "Conservative voices in the U.S. have not been as present as they might have been and should have been in the media." Very telling stuff, I think. And that's coming from the horse's mouth. Make of all this what you will. I just wanted to put forth a reasonable argument that Jennings was not as much of an objective saint of the nightly news as some would portray him to be. That doesn't mean I am gladdened by his passing. I wish his family well.
RiverCB..."whether Edwards was being questioned "too much". Unle by anchorite	Aug 8th, 2005 01:21:15 PM
Well, they ARE trying to get the records of his adoption of his children! That's the bloody point! They ARE going too far! His children have NOT A THING to do with his ability to be a good nominee for Supreme Court Justice. It is despicable that the Democrats are such spoil-sports that they would drag this man's adopted children into the political fray. Unconscionable.
Regis, it would have been just one of many. by anchorite	Aug 8th, 2005 01:23:02 PM

Wow ... a blowdried talking head died... by JackRabbitSlim	Aug 8th, 2005 01:23:21 PM
All the TelePrompters of the world will go dark for mere seconds...
Will Pat Sajak be next? Or maybe Wink Martindale? by JackRabbitSlim	Aug 8th, 2005 01:24:11 PM

And I forgot to correct River CB in his post - it's John Rob by anchorite	Aug 8th, 2005 01:27:43 PM
John Edwards is, politically speaking, dead.
John Roberts by rivercb	Aug 8th, 2005 01:36:47 PM
Anchoritte, thanks for the correction, I get my white people confused sometimes :( That's interesting as well about the New York Times digging into the adoptive records and it's pretty low. But this was one paper and shouldn't be held in terms of a larger plot. Unless, however, they are investigating as to whether the children came from a communist country or possibly made in a lab and are possibly "sleepers" in the justice system.
Ever notice..? by ZeroCorpse	Aug 8th, 2005 01:38:17 PM
All the people who piss off the Bush camp end up with cancer..?
RIP, Jennings ... by Adiaphoron	Aug 8th, 2005 01:52:45 PM
ZombieSolutions, shut up. Thank you.
RIP by Darth Thoth	Aug 8th, 2005 01:59:03 PM
God bless his soul.
rivercb by mclennon	Aug 8th, 2005 02:12:13 PM
You sound like a reasonable guy, but your use of the phrase 'fag lovin' is an indication of your predjudice against people who don't subsribe to left wing ideology and should be beneath you. It is a kind of small minded arrogance to think that those who disagree with you are automatically bigots or homophobes.
ZeroCorpse, Ever notice all the people who piss off the Clintons by anchorite	Aug 8th, 2005 02:13:11 PM
Of course, they also get trashed in the media, get their careers ruined and their reputation forever tainted, end up the punchline to thousands of jokes, etc. But hey, who's counting, right? And by the way, you might want to quit smoking. And eating Seet & Low. And talking on a cell phone for long periods. And living near power lines. And eating red meat. And...
And since no one has argued against the info in the links I pos by anchorite	Aug 8th, 2005 02:16:07 PM
Surely that can't be possible!
Sweet & Low! Not Seet & Low! Dammit! by anchorite	Aug 8th, 2005 02:16:56 PM

anchorite by mclennon	Aug 8th, 2005 02:49:01 PM
They can't argue with that... apparantely Jennings was more fair minded then the people here defending him
Nice man by 24200124	Aug 8th, 2005 03:10:53 PM
In the student travel business, there's no delight greater to the participants than a chance meeting with a celebrity. As an airport assistant in Washington DC, i saw a huge cross-section of entertainers, politicians and newsmen -- Peter Jennings being one of them. After meeting him, i introduced him to one of my groups. He actually took the time to talk with them, and he seemed genuinely interested in what they had to say about their time in DC and various other things. After that, I would see him in the airport from time to time; we always said hello, and he'd jokingly ask, "You're still here?" When my wife told me early this morning that he had passed on, i told her this story and my eyes got kind of teary. RIP Peter. It was nice meeting you and seeing you around.
roll of the eyes by lopan	Aug 8th, 2005 03:18:33 PM
boy i'm sure glad we decided to bring politics into this. "sorry you're dead, here's my bullshit political agenda." what a bunch of worthless fucks. RIP jennings REGARDLESS OF THE BIAS IN EITHER DIRECTION OF THE MEDIA. for fuck's sake.
Lopan, no one said Jennings was a turd or anything. No one is ha by anchorite	Aug 8th, 2005 03:27:29 PM

mclennon by rivercb	Aug 8th, 2005 03:27:56 PM
With the "fag lovin' bible hatin'" comment, I was just being a bit of an ass. Anchorite, I have no doubt that Jennings had a bias, as we all do. That he aknowledged it, I think speaks to his character that he was aware of it and tried, to a larger extent, not to dictate the stories he presented. Not indifferent to a perspective but reasonable in his approach.
calm down? by lopan	Aug 8th, 2005 03:48:52 PM
i'm not doubting that we all genuinely regret his passing. what i do think is retarded is that people have to bring up politics just to start shit. who cares if there's a fucking media bias, or if he's liberal or conservative, or if the clintons are assholes, or if the president is an idiot. none of that has anything to do with PJ passing on. just pay your respects and don't push people's buttons with the politics shit. all i ask.
well this is no James Doohan talk back but... by trevorfactor	Aug 8th, 2005 03:51:00 PM
something about this post is giving me deja vu, wonder why? christ even Harry admitted he didn't really watch the guy - nice obituary there harry. It's just amazing to me where and when people choose to get into heated discussions about thier political beliefs. Why doesn't everyone step back from this talk back just for a moment and think about jennings family and if they came here and read all 100+ posts from you idiots how horrified they'd be. And it's not everyone but for gods sake people show some respect or if not at least be funny and entertaining to read. Much love to Peters family and friends that had to watch the poor guy die, just hang in there life does go on, Peter I hope you rest in peace you overly opinionated media whore - ok I'm going straight to hell for that one but hey at least I'll have most of you to keep me company
Well, according to a couple of reporters who worked with him, Je by anchorite	Aug 8th, 2005 03:56:10 PM
That's what all the criticism was about. I don't know if you neglected to go to the links I provided, but in terms of journalistic integrity, the story that he re-wrote a journalist's own piece (to the point it was virtually unrecognizable) before it aired is a big allegation against Jennings and is damaging to his legacy as a news man. I am not trying to be disrespectful to a man who has just passed away. But how often has there been a talkback on this site relating to Peter Jennings? This is pretty much the only one, so it's appropriate to put his contributions in perspective. I imagine he'd have done no differently.
When the person who passed away IS a political figure (and he WA by anchorite	Aug 8th, 2005 04:01:23 PM
Had Louie Anderson just died, I imagine the talkback would be quite different. To try and shut people down who are being reasonable in their commentary in this forum is what is unacceptable!
... by Mistah_Scrotie	Aug 8th, 2005 04:03:21 PM
Well, since this has ceased to be a eulogy and forum for remembering a great newscaster and instead become another winless liberal vs. conservative debate (which, i'm ashamed to admit i took part in) I feel that it's time we move to the next inevitable phase... LOTR pwns Star Wars! If you didn't like the Matrix sequels you didn't understand them! The Simpsons/SNL/Letterman is still as funny now as it was 10 years ago.
fair enough by lopan	Aug 8th, 2005 04:08:14 PM
no harm in discussing his legacy, good or bad. but political trolling just pisses me off and i mean to direct that towards everyone, not just one person in particular.
This picture made me laugh so hard.... by Helo	Aug 8th, 2005 04:13:53 PM
http://i4.photobucket.com/albu ms/y120/Loxoceles/JenningsHell .gif
Helo, you need a spoiler warning with that one. And you probably by anchorite	Aug 8th, 2005 04:20:46 PM
And you just ruined my theory about everyone here behaving pretty well. THANKS A LOT!
yep straight to hell by trevorfactor	Aug 8th, 2005 04:25:24 PM
and I'm driving
yeah by lopan	Aug 8th, 2005 04:36:52 PM
you're right, i just had a heart attack. forgive me, i was obviously way out of line with my whole line of thinking. thanks for showing me the light.
anchorite et al, you dumb shits. by Cameron1	Aug 8th, 2005 04:44:06 PM
there is no overall liberal media bias in mainstream US news. argue all you want bitch all you want, but you are very very wrong. If you had watched news in other western countries you would see what a non biased media was. RIP Mr Jennings, you were a scholar and a gentleman.
Why so much hate for this guy? by The True Priapic	Aug 8th, 2005 04:44:40 PM
Here in blighty our anchormen and women are overpaid,shit heels that dont evn warrent hate.So whats the deal?
Is Star Jones dead yet? by The True Priapic	Aug 8th, 2005 04:47:48 PM
Fuck..I hated The View.That is one big barbeque in hell with Stars corpse...echhh..Hopefully Barbara Walters has died now,how fucking old was she?3000?Smug,self satisfied,se free zone.Ughhh..I quite fancied the Erin Grey lookylikey...bit...."toothy" though.Worth a pounding....sort of...
Smoking is STUPID! by michaeliceberg	Aug 8th, 2005 04:57:32 PM
Thanks, Peter Jennings, for driving that point home. I hope this is a lesson to all of you smokers out there. It's stupid and you look stupid and smell stupid when you do it. And, chances are great you will die a slow, painful, stupid death, stupidly, selfishly, leaving behind a family. ANd, you're stupid and selfish for smoking in front of family members, especially children who have to consume your stupid smoke.
Once again, don't let the facts stand in the way of your arg by anchorite	Aug 8th, 2005 04:59:00 PM
And just because the news media isn't as biased here as in other Western countries doesn't mean it ISN'T biased! That's just such a lame argument, I can't even begin to tell you. I will agree that the media bias is waning, but it is due to the changing of the guard and the advent of the internet and talk radio. That's like saying there isn't a Liberal bias in university and college faculties in the U.S.! Of course there is! Studies have shown it time and again. And studies have shown the same for mainstream media outlets. For decades, the ONLY version of the story has been what has been told to you from the likes of Jennings, Brokaw, Rather and Cronkite. And when Turner started CNN, he followed that same Liberal ideology. Not until VERY recently has there been any way of knowing both sides of a story. And it isn't Fox News that has made that possible. It's mostly the Internet. Fox just siphoned off discontented masses of people who were tired of hearing the dismal version of America. If anything, it isn't objectivity that has given Fox strong ratings. It's an upbeat portrayal of America. Criticize them for it, but their "Rah! Rah!" attitude has certainly struck a chord with the viewing public. Anyway, for Lopan, I was only kidding. I certainly don't want you to think I was coming down too hard on you. I would like to be able to engage in a discussion that is RESPECTFUL of Peter Jennings (or anyone else, for that matter), but not one that simply consists of, "He's gone and he was the greatest and no one should say a bad word about him because he was untouchable, and if you do, then you're a dumbshit!"
ok then by lopan	Aug 8th, 2005 05:01:55 PM
you seem like a decent guy and i get where yr coming from. i'm not out to lionize the dude, i just think getting into a lib vs con debate here of all places is so stupid (which had more to do with other TBers than you). i definitely think your comments are valid. truce dude truce, let's go get a beer.
"Peter Jennings Is Gone". Where'd he go? by anchorite	Aug 8th, 2005 05:02:36 PM
Just asking.
Jedi Striker: I'm sure Peter Jennings learned of god and his by Some Dude	Aug 8th, 2005 05:03:56 PM
How the fuck can you clowns think anyone on this planet hasn't heard your favorite myth at least 1000 times? Jennings heard it and he realized it was just a story, nothing more. Oh, and the word "god" looks even sillier when you leave out the "o." You are only supposed to do that when writing on paper just in case it falls on the ground. Funny thing it, if it really offended your superhero, you'd think he would prevent paper with his name on it from falling to the ground.
"If anything, it isn't objectivity that has given Fox strong by Cameron1	Aug 8th, 2005 05:05:48 PM
What a suprise a candy coated view of America has scored well on ratings. Oh anchorite you are so awfully naive, CNN, ABC, and others are not liberally biased, they are reasonably objective, but no US newsstation gives the politicians, particularly those in power (so yes, democrats had it when they were in power as well) a tough ride or even tough questions. It's pathetic most of the time. You do know who rupert murdoch is right? you know his political views and that he uses he TV and newspapers to promote them. You are living in a fucking bubble anchorite.
Too bad about Peter Jen....wait somebody posted that NPR was the by Swarmy	Aug 8th, 2005 05:06:11 PM
Hahahahahahahahahahaha!!!! OH MY SIDES THEY HURT! STOP WITH THE FUNNY!!!!!
Of course the media is liberally biased. Mostly a buncha leftov by Swarmy	Aug 8th, 2005 05:13:27 PM
Seriously. Folks who insist there is no liberal bias in most of the media simply can't see the forest for the trees. Thankfully over the last 10 years or so we've seen the "new media" start to develop and take hold, offering a different point of view for the first time. A point of view were liberal ideas are actually ::gasp:: questioned and debated instead of blindly accepted as fact as it always used to be.
swarmy, your so rightwing that you can't tell what is object by Cameron1	Aug 8th, 2005 05:16:18 PM
you really can't see the forest for you prejudices and beliefs, ah well, you'll manage.
Rough Time For Canucks by kferris61	Aug 8th, 2005 05:17:58 PM
Canadians are dying left and right. First it was James Scotty Doohan. Now Peter Jennings. Who's next?
I've got a ten spot on Michael J. Fox... by anchorite	Aug 8th, 2005 05:21:04 PM

No one has yet refuted the links I posted regarding Jennings' by anchorite	Aug 8th, 2005 05:24:26 PM
You guys say I'm living in a bubble, that I'm naive, or that I'm just insane. But I presented FACTS and all I'm hearing back is empty rhetoric, a plethora of talking points and weak-ass arguments against me. The ball is in your court. Don't let it smash you in the nards.
Totally off-topic, but a must read, nonetheless: by anchorite	Aug 8th, 2005 05:29:11 PM
http://start.earthlink.net/art icle/ent?guid=20050808/42f6d8c 0_3ca6_1552620050808910560100
honest reporting? WTF? by Cameron1	Aug 8th, 2005 05:31:30 PM
ok anchorite, I'll be honest I only had time to look at one so I went with this. Firstly, that is a biased website itself, so duh, hardly a reliable source. Secondly the sory itself is concerned with Jennings reporting of middle east problems and palestine. Hell all he did was be fairminded and he gets called liberal. hahahahaha. Yes indeed anchorite, you are in a bubble.
Okay, that's not the best example. Try another one... by anchorite	Aug 8th, 2005 05:36:43 PM
I admit, in terms of the Middle Eastern conflict, it gets a bit cagey. But the point was, he was dating a friggin' head spokesperson of the Palestinian government. Now if there isn't a bit of a conflict of interest (or at least a lack of objectivity) there, you are insane. If a news anchor was dating Karl Rove (okay, I know, that's a stretch right there), and then there was a story in which Rove was involved, shouldn't the anchor let someone else do the story? But please, take a minute and peruse some of the other sites. They aren't at all as rabid as the first one you went to.
anchorite. by Cameron1	Aug 8th, 2005 05:46:26 PM
ok I just went to the mrc website link. Then I went and checked out the homepage. Again a completely biased source. I'm sure we are getting close to irony here.
Well, now, when you say biased, is it because it's really bi by anchorite	Aug 8th, 2005 06:03:11 PM
Sorry, that's just what I keep hearing from the liberals on here. The truth is, sites like the MRC are in place to watchdog the media bias. They will call it against any entity that is not showing objectivity in their news reports. Sure, they have an agenda. EVERYONE has one. The point is, when you are in a position that requires supposed objectivity in order to function correctly, you need to be as objective as humanly possible. And in this case, there is an entity that is providing accounts of instances where that objectivity is being subjugated in order to further a political or idological agenda. There is no irony here, except that even after presentation of a factual argument, you still seem convinced I am wrong. That there is a liberal slant to the news is not news in and of itself. What IS news is that the liberal slant is finally being made obvious to the masses. And in so doing, it is being effectively counteracted with another perspective. It is apparently not going to change the minds of people like yourself who are comfortable believing what you are spoon-fed by the major news networks as fact.
so I show up anchorite's links to be bullshit. by Cameron1	Aug 8th, 2005 06:07:28 PM
and he just shifts his argument over it. You have not presented me with any evidence anchorite (well no unbiased raw source evidence) mrc is a bullshit conservatively funded website and it is there SPECIFICALLY as an anti liberal site which tries to say there is a liberal media bias, hell that's their mission statement. Oh and I dont believe what the major networks tell me, because they are not objective any more. tut tut anchorite you are being very silly.
P. Jennings RIP, But NOT Here by Roboteer	Aug 8th, 2005 06:07:52 PM
I won
So who WOULD you believe? What news source? CNN? BBC? The point by anchorite	Aug 8th, 2005 06:18:35 PM
It is easy to dismiss rhetoric, but less so to dismiss facts. Peter Jennings himself remarked on the Liberalism prevalent in media outlets. To say that my links are worthless and to ascribe a right-wing whacko agenda to them is your prerogative. But a close examination of the facts disclosed therein does indeed point to an ongoing liberal media bias. As Jack Palance was fond of saying, "Believe it...or not".
Roboteer, don't forget the anti-Israeli sentiment he was so by anchorite	Aug 8th, 2005 06:21:52 PM
Whether or not you are a fan of Israel, as a news man it was highly irregular and irresponsible for him to side on many occasions with the Palestinians. Especially when he was "courting" a woman who was main spokesperson for Palestine at the time. NOT KOSHER!
Wow, Goatzinger! Does that make YOU the goat involved? by anchorite	Aug 8th, 2005 06:23:51 PM
Consider yourself "zinged". Brent Bozell indeed. I suppose you'll be found wearing Berkel's panties?
Anybody else ever watch "The Fabulous Sixties"? by Voice O. Reason	Aug 8th, 2005 07:36:22 PM
Jennings did an excellent 10-part documentary back in 1970 for the Canadian Broadcasting Company. Has anyone else ever seen it?
Mr. Jennings by briankriebel	Aug 8th, 2005 07:41:33 PM
This is a great tragedy. For any significant domestic or international event, Mr. Jennings was the one individual (second only to family) that you want to hear. From that perspective, he has left a legacy that should be the gold standard for any aspiring journalist to aspire to. Thank you for being there during the Challenger, Berlin Wall, Clinton Impeachment, State of the Union addresses, the 25 hour 2000 New Year broadcast, and most significantly 9/11. Be grateful that America had him.
Grateful indeed. Would that now make him the Grateful Dead? by anchorite	Aug 8th, 2005 07:51:09 PM
Sorry, that was probably a poor choice of words. I find it amusing that we give so much credit to news anchors - ANY News Anchors - but so little to doctors. Who has a more important job? Who has more responsibility? We treat news anchors as celebrities, right up there with Cruise and Gibson and Kobe Bryant. It just seems an awful lot of nonsense. You'd think these guys had raised us as their own.
Man vs. Anchorman by Little Beavis	Aug 8th, 2005 08:08:48 PM
As a man of decency in TV, he'll be missed. As an anchorman, I'm sorry, but I won't miss him.
Smoking is REALLY STUPID! by michaeliceberg	Aug 8th, 2005 08:12:06 PM
Just wanted to drive down the point to all you stupid retards out there who smoke and to all you child abusers who smoke in front of your children.
Peter Jennings, if he'd become an actor, would have hands-do by Nosferatu Jones	Aug 8th, 2005 09:23:40 PM
Just had to be said.
My humble thoughts on bias in the media by RLTW	Aug 8th, 2005 10:24:46 PM
C'mon rivercb, the NYT is not "just one paper"! Drudge and others would not have given the story much credence had it been another daily. Speaking of bias in print and television news, if you accept that most journalists are liberal (an assertion for which there is strong statistical evidence), it stands to reason that most news outlets are inevitably biased. News is a product that is manufactured by editors, anchors, reporters, etc., and it is human nature for them to select and portray facts and backstory in such a way that ultimately has some degree of alignment with their beliefs. However, speaking as a conservative (more so in the institutional rather than political sense), I don't think that this shaping of the product is as deliberately insidious as the Bernard Goldbergs and Ann Coulters of the world would have us believe. And in the cases where it is, there is usually enough public outcry to restore accountability (Cronkite's belated loss of face after his Tet Offensive reporting and Rather's recent defrocking come to mind). It should be enough for a long time yet that the jaundiced view that many people have of particular news outlets or journalists they choose not to trust will prevent any bias, liberal or otherwise, from getting out of hand. All that being said, I think that most journalists do a fair job of being objective, considering how difficult it must be to consistently filter out your personal beliefs from what you are responsible for reporting. I base this statement on personal experience. I commanded a combat engineer company with the 3rd Infantry Division in Iraq for 13 months in 2003-2004, and during that time I had the opportunity to interact with a lot of embedded journalists. Most of them did not agree with the reasons for our presence in Iraq (this was apparent even during the invasion), but they nevertheless all worked very hard to be fair and respectful of the story as it was, not how they thought it should be. RIP Peter Jennings.
yeah.....goddamn liberal media bias... by slappy jones	Aug 8th, 2005 11:37:47 PM
it drives me up the wall...UP THE WALL...i mean get this..did you know that apparently Bill Clinton..and we know how the liberals love the clintons...did you know that he apparently had an affair with some intern?? i heard through the grapevine that he was getting blown by some intern and that he then lied about it..... where was the coverage on this story....I mean if that is true then that is somehting you would expect the mainstream media to cover but those goddamn news networks with their lame ass liberal media bias completely buried that story..... from now if you want the news given to you straight i have three names for you...Limbaugh, Coulter and Hannity. The only ones out there speaking the truth.
"smoking is stupid." by Diana Rules!	Aug 9th, 2005 12:18:24 AM
Great, can't even pay our respects without the liberals trying to tell the rest of us how we should live. Join the rest of the commune in California and let the rest of us wish Mr. Jennings God speed.
Diana Rules? Bullshit! by michaeliceberg	Aug 9th, 2005 02:17:07 AM
Sorry, hun, you don't rule. Peter Jennings death is a wonderful time to emphisize the stupidness and severity of cigarette smoking. If my post made one person quit, GOD BLESS ME!
One droid down... by BAMF	Aug 9th, 2005 02:22:11 AM
Several dozen to go.
After Michaeliceberg's Post, I Smoked A Nail by Prophet Jeremiah	Aug 9th, 2005 02:28:47 AM
Just saying. Can't quit with all the hate.
"Peter Jennings death is a wonderful time . . ." by Captain Sulu	Aug 9th, 2005 03:00:35 AM
How tacky was that?
Anchorite sucks by ALotCooler	Aug 9th, 2005 05:04:22 AM
Peter Jennings was a class act and one of the best newsmen we've ever had. You could tell that he genuinely had an inquisitive mind, which I count as a plus. Did he have a little liberal bias? Probably, but not much. What do you want, he's not a robot. I went to your little websites and frankly I think youre a nutjob. First site: He's liberal because he let a high powered, highly educated Palestinian who he dated once in the seventies say that Arabs feel angry about Israel and that anger contributed to 9/11. Boy, what a liberal jew-hater. He let a Palestinian give their reality based OPINION on his newscast. Second site, about 30 cherry picked quotes from nearly 40 years of work, some of which are inexplicable. Jennings says that most welfare recipients have 1 to 2 kids and are not black, which are FACTS, so that makes him liberal biased. He says that tax cuts mean less money for the government, so that makes him liberal biased. What I saw a lot of were FACTS presented that could help a liberal win an argument, maybe. The little bit about 1994 voters being crybabies... oh yeah the haters forget to mention that was on a COMMENTARY.. commentary RADIO show. Liberal vs. Conservative? Sadly, it's largely neither and much much more about ratings. "Liberal" media championed the war before the invasion and plastered the airwaves with Monicagate so give me a break. By their very definitions, liberals tend to question the status quo and conservatives, stay with me now, do not... they try to conserve it. I know that I prefer a media which questions, and I know which one I think is healthier for an informed public.
jesus, go watch Outfoxed. It's a perfectly good (if cheap) by HypeEndsHere	Aug 9th, 2005 07:24:02 AM

by the way.... NON-smokers die everyday by HypeEndsHere	Aug 9th, 2005 07:29:28 AM
fuck your eternal life fantasy. your sense of superiority is sickening. smoking is cool. you suck on something burning and then smoke comes out of your head! name something cooler.
Damn People! by OneRuffChick	Aug 9th, 2005 08:25:09 AM
A very respected, very talented Newsman is dead and all y'all can do is bitch and moan about Liberals v. Conservatives. This is not the place or the time for that. If it is that difficult to be nice and just pay your respects then please, just shut up. Rest in Peace, Peter, you were one of the greats!
A Lot Cooler, as I said before, don't let the FACTS stand in by anchorite	Aug 9th, 2005 08:40:04 AM
The FACTS are clear. Jennings, like the other big anchors and the vast majority of journalists working in the media machine, was a liberal with a biased taked on the stories he covered. That he dated a Palestinian spokesperson, was intimately involved with her, and then had her on his show to present "facts" to the public about the plight of the Palestiniansis was most certainly a conflict of interest. His commentary on a DAILY BASIS was biased toward his own political views. For me to present you with factual examples of such and for you to brush it off as imagined or perceived rather than real is most certainly your prerogative. It also presents you as someone who is a bit unreasonable. And to refer to me as a nutjob really gets to the heart of the matter; anyone who disagrees with your view of things is dangerous or crazy. Yet liberals always try to paint themselves as so tolerant and conservatives as bigots. Whatever. Your name calling does not make me any less sure of my stance, so do so if it makes you feel better about yourself.
Roboteer: Why does "giving back to his adopted homeland" = not c by Oski	Aug 9th, 2005 08:44:49 AM
This is hilarious, it's still going on. If you are against Republicans, you are anti-american. Of course, criticizing Clinton even years after he left office, and inventing all kinds of wild stories is very American, isn't it? Never gave anything back or cared about america, sheesh, does "In Search of America" ring a fucking bell? Jennings did love America and he knows more about its history and probably loved it more than any of you fucks who are criticizing him right after he died. As for his coverage on 9/11, go check out the Smithsonian exhibit on 9-11. Jennings is the anchor who they use for most of the videos because he was who most americans chose to watch during that day.
Jennings seemed like a good guys, sorry to see him go by Knobules	Aug 9th, 2005 08:51:25 AM

what a waste of space by trevorfactor	Aug 9th, 2005 09:29:00 AM
Harry please I'm begging you shut this thing down please? I can't take any more of anchorite's stupidity or anyone else argueing over this stuff. Anchorite let me tell you something fucker every talk back I've been in with you you've said some stupid disrespectful or just plain inappropriate stuff and you are so lucky I can not physically get my hands on you because I would beat the living shit out of you, pound your head in. Peter was a media whore that was driven by people who watch the news. He was no saint and the fact that he had lung cancer doesn't open the door for people to tell other people how to live there lives or argue about what's right or wrong. You're all fucking assholes for participating in this talk back being that it is a horrible & insensitive place filled with hate & overly opinionated dickheads who think they are smart, a shame really since it's supposed to be a memorial to someone who died, someone who gave his time & energy to the public and for what?
Trevorfactor (what did you name yourself after your hero Bill O& by anchorite	Aug 9th, 2005 09:46:45 AM
First off, I NEVER said anything that was disrespectful about Peter Jennings as a person and went out of my way to mention I wish his family the best. That you want to "beat the living shit out of (me),pound (my) head in..." for giving a respectful, if disagreeable, analysis of Jennings' work as a news anchor shows you to be a cretin. That others on here have gone farther with their criticism of Jennings or made it an anti-smoking campaign is hardly my doing. And since you are participating in this talkback as well, aren't you being one of the "fucking assholes"? And for the record, your post was filled with more hate and venom than anyone else's on here. You yourself called Jennings a "media whore" and admitted he was "no saint". So what kind of defense is that for Jennings, exactly? You are a complete waste of my time.
Smoking is such a waste by AlwaysThere	Aug 9th, 2005 11:33:41 AM
RIP Peter.
Sparklecopy is right by ShadowSorkin07	Aug 9th, 2005 12:26:38 PM
They are just sad cause their kids or brothers or sisters are dying over there right now. As for anyone thinking that any of the media in this country actually being idenpendient, it just makes me want to laugh. Every news source is controled by the people that are in power, and at this point it's many the GOP. What I don't understand about republicans is, why are you people so angry? You control the goverment, you will pretty soon try to put in judges who will ban abortion, and yet you still bitch when people disagree with you. Not to mention you defend Rove, who should at the very least be thrown in jail, and most likely should be charged with treason. What's Bush going to do? He's going to fucking give him a medal of some shit, you know it. Lastly, Jennings, you were great, we all miss you, may you rest in peace.
"Not to mention you defend Rove, who should at the very least be by anchorite	Aug 9th, 2005 01:02:30 PM
Clinton is canonized even though he was responsible for selling nuclear arms secrets to the ChiComms, but Rove should be charged with treason for speaking to a reporter? You're living a lie, but with a name like Shadow Sorkin07, it makes my saying so kind of redundant.
Karl Rove's Father Is A Geologist by Red Lantern	Aug 9th, 2005 02:09:46 PM
You need to check your facts Sparkle.
yes by white owl	Aug 9th, 2005 02:27:46 PM

You guys are ridiculous. As in, I am ridiculing you for your com by anchorite	Aug 9th, 2005 02:39:43 PM
We dropped the bomb on Japan and it ENDED the war along with what most likely would have been years of more fighting and hundreds of thousands to millions of lives lost. Was it fair? Was it nice? Was it right? That is a huge judgement call. Was it effective? Unequivocally, YES. What's the difference between what we did at Hiroshima and Nagasaki and what the terrorists do on trains and planes? What we did was in hopes of ending the war. What they are doing is just making us more determined. If you want to point out all the ills we have conceived of and all the violent and horrible things we have perpetrated as a nation, there is a long laundry list, including, but not limited to, our treatment of Native Americans and what occured over a century of slavery. If you are so ashamed of this country, if those things are so unconscionable to you, if in your eyes we are never going to be able to rise above those actions (or inactions) as a nation, you will be one miserable and guilty so and so for all eternity. I myself can look upon our actions in Japan and see both the horror and the necessity of it. And I am still proud to be an American citizen, despite the political incorrectness of what we did. We also spent years and millions of dollars to help rebuild those war-torn countries.
JENNINGS!!! NOOOOOO!!!! by ZombieSolutions	Aug 9th, 2005 03:04:22 PM
he was a MAN, an ANCHORMAN!!! the kind of man who built the Eifel Tower out of PIPE and STEEL. that' the kind of man he was. you, your just a woman with a small brain. it's science.
I Miss His Scent... His Musk... I Miss Being With Him... by ZombieSolutions	Aug 9th, 2005 03:05:39 PM
i think once this whole death thing works itself out that we should get an apartment together.
Its ANCHORMAN, Not ANCHORLADY And That's A Scientific Fact by ZombieSolutions	Aug 9th, 2005 03:06:51 PM
that's what Jennings was. JENNINGS!!! NOOOOOO!!!!
Sex Panther Has Real Bits of Panther In It -- 60% Of The Time It by ZombieSolutions	Aug 9th, 2005 03:11:28 PM
Jennings was a MAN! AN ANCHORMAN!!!
This talkback has officially jumped the shark... by anchorite	Aug 9th, 2005 03:12:43 PM
Man In Suit! Jennings has a beer and cheats on Rather with Brokaw! LOTR is WAY better than Star Wars! Star Wars kicks the shit out of LOTR! Whatever.
Lung Cancer Is A Rough Way To Go by ZombieSolutions	Aug 9th, 2005 03:15:57 PM
i guess that's what he gets for leaning to the left of Hitler. i tell you this is all some liberal conspiracy! everyone knows the ones with no power at all are the ones who dictate policy! the Republicans are just an oppressed minority of obscenely wealthy and obese white guys who control the entire world! why don't you stop picking on them?!?! why?!?! all they ever did was start a neverending war for no reason whatsoever! and you know, maybe they killed a whole bunch of kids in Jesus name. but dang! i mean, gosh darn it all to hell, they love Jesus! they love him ALOT. (they way he hangs on the cross all nekkid and... oh god.. sweaty... oooohhh) waaaah!!!
My Love For Jennings Has Officially Jumped the Couch by ZombieSolutions	Aug 9th, 2005 03:27:19 PM
I'm SOOO in love with him! JENNINGS!!! don't go into the light! come back to us! i have a sample of the T-Virus, that could bring you back. we could go jogging, or yogging. apparently you just like run for an extentend period of time. Veronica Corningstone is effing everything up!
God, Jesus, Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and THOR, GOD OF THUN by ZombieSolutions	Aug 9th, 2005 03:29:57 PM
they report on the goings on and the hoi polloi in Heaven and Asgard. i saw their first broadcast in a dream. it was glorious. like a million rainbows shooting out of an angel's butt.
Apparently Zombie Solutuons love for sanity just jumped the shar by anchorite	Aug 9th, 2005 03:32:17 PM
What am I saying... "just"? I believe it must have happened ages ago! And with the new BMI index, EVERYBODY'S obese! Didn't you know that? Starting a neverending war for no reason? Are you talking about the liberal's War on Poverty again?
Solutions, not solutuons! Dammit! by anchorite	Aug 9th, 2005 03:33:05 PM
Though that is an extra nifty spelling, if I do say so myself!
oh man by lopan	Aug 9th, 2005 03:40:05 PM
god damn i'm high as a kite right now...what the hell was i so worked up about yesterday?
I Find It Telling That The 2 Most Politically Astute People On A by Captain Sulu	Aug 9th, 2005 03:59:25 PM
Both those TBers chose not to engage in a political debate and just offered an RIP or something similar. Class all the way you two, I suspect you know who you are (as do probably most TBers who watch this stuff).
You Should All Bow Bown And Worship The One True Son Of GOD by ZombieSolutions	Aug 9th, 2005 09:07:06 PM
his name is THOR!!! bow before him, heaten scum! your vast Right / Left Winged Conspiracies ARE NOTHING compared to POWER OF MJOLNER, Thor's mighty hammer! Here this and hear it well, citizens of Earth, YOU ARE ALL DOOMED. THOR is going to crush ALL OF YOUR PUNY GODS and NATIONS with ONE SWIFT STROKE of his FLOWING BEARD, BARREL CHEST and HIS MIGHTY MIGHTY HAMMER! your OIL means nothing to us! prepare to DIE!!! BWAA HA HA!!! MWOOO H A HA HA HA HA HA HA HAAAAAAAA
That's it. We need Homeland Security to put out an alert. We by anchorite	Aug 9th, 2005 09:17:33 PM
Anyone 6 feet tall or over, blond hair, blue or green eyes, preferably named Sven or Eric the Red!
My head will explode in a minute by ALotCooler	Aug 9th, 2005 10:44:50 PM
Let me reiterate. Peter Jennings was a great anchor regardless of one's political leanings. Now to address some dumbassery. The A bomb was not necessary to end the war with Japan and did not "save lives". The Japanese made repeated attempts to surrender with their Emperor in place to save face. Truman declined. The inventor of nuclear fission begged the defense secretary to demonstrate its power before use, but was declined because it would hurt defense budgets to not use a bomb that expensive to kill people. Lastly, both Hiroshima and Nagasaki were almost entirely civilian. The Japanese were also on their last legs and we could bomb the mainland with conventional artillery at will. Not to sound too much like N. Dynamite, but pretty much every historian agrees that the A Bomb was the beginning of the Cold War to show the commies what could happen to them and was not "necessary" to end the war. Frankly, it was a long time ago and I don't give a shit one way or the other, but it pisses me off when dumbasses like Anchorite just regurgitate what they read in their high school history book. As for your links, I looked at them and found mostly that they showed that Peter Jennings was probably a liberal personally. It showed that he pressed FACTS that were in opposition to the conventional wisdom of the day, without resorting to distorting the truth, which I admire. If opposing conventional wisdom and doing one's own original research, then yes he was liberal and so am I. Now please, go read another one of your wingnut books that say that the Clintons killed fourty people and that Hillary sucked Satan's cock to get enough money for an abortion, and leave a memorial board to a great newsman alone. Take a break already with the persecution complex. White men of European descent have had a pretty good run so far. Have a pina colada. You only control everything right now so bitching about "liberal" media and a man who just died of lung cancer just makes you look petty.
brobdingnang by ALotCooler	Aug 9th, 2005 11:02:26 PM
Actually, the U.S. was one of the largest players in the oil for food scandal and we did plenty of illegal stuff for oil, but somehow the America hating "liberal" media hasn't reported it. See what I did was actually check things out for myself, before just repeating what someone told me. I think it's bad that those European countries were involved, but I don't bitch about them because I am not a citizen there nor live there. I'm sure you looove it when French people criticize America. I am critical of my government because that's how progress gets made. It's that simple. The "love it or leave it" mentality that you and your bretheren espouse therefore drives me up the fucking wall. Thank you for being honest about the Iraq war and I can see your point. It's my belief that you get more done with the CARROT and the (ass kicking) stick and throughout history the unabashed ass kickers have gone down HARD. Again, though I can see your point.
Jennings Soothed A Nation's Pains With The Kind, Loving and by ZombieSolutions	Aug 9th, 2005 11:08:33 PM
the NORSE ANCHORMAN!!! Bring us thine news, Newsman! And wenches! and a flagon of your finest mead. arrrgh!!! ROOOAAARRRR!!!!
Always fun to see where the threads go on AICN by Pynchon6	Aug 10th, 2005 12:54:56 AM
I know it's not PC to say, but Peter Jennings had no effect on my life. It's sad to see him die, but that's just because his image was familiar to me. His bias was blatant, but everyone is biased--it's what you do to present the news clearly and objectively that gets you my respect. Anyway, now the boob Olberman and other news figures are turning this into Celebrity Cancer Death Match week, because--Say it ain't so!--Chris Reeve's wife has cancer. Who??? OK, OK, it's sad that SOMEONE has cancer on the planet Earth, but this strikes me as a ratings stunt to fight Greta Van Aruba's nauseating deathwatch for some blonde chick. (If she were a fat black chick I wonder how long we'd be seeing stories about her.) Anyway, I was just scrolling down and had to laugh that someone claimed "OUTFOXED" was an unbiased doc! LOL! Their "source" who "reported for FOX" who supposedly gave them all their "inside dirt" worked at a FOX affiliate! But when your standard is Michael "Iraq was a Paradise" Moore, what can you expect? I do find it interesting that AICN even has a thread on this, I thought this was a site about cool NEWS about genre movies, instead of this weird "pop culture" thing which is overtaking all outlets--MTV, for example, isn't even about music anymore but lifestyle of the rich and famous. It's kinda like how rock n roll has become an offshoot of Vegas and Broadway, with "rock" stars being about The Look and The Dance Moves. People think that Britny, Tom Cruise and Peter Jennings are actually part of their family, so if anyone in the media croaks, it's like a relative has died, in this case your mom's uncle who doesn't have much of a connection to your life but you kinda have to say something on his passing. Someone pointed out that the media were Clinton's buttboys for making his lying under oath about a personal matter, and they're right; all Clinton had to run on was personality (Arkansas's incredible, dynamic economics and education track record didn't win him the presidency, just as Bob Dole's boredom and lack of a reason to be elected didn't win it for him), so when you win on personality and the biting of your lower lip, and sign a law making what you did with Lewinsky illegal, it's hilarious to claim that when YOU do it it's somehow about "personal attacks". And yes, this is rambling on purpose, as a blow against the media gods, or something, man it's late.
The Japanese military Unit 731 were working on secret weapons to by anchorite	Aug 10th, 2005 09:56:05 AM
Anthrax and Botulism toxin were among the chemical and biological weapons Japan had developed and used on American POWs and Chinese villagers. At the end of the war, Japan was found to have had over 400 kilos of aerosolized Anthrax and was set to use a fragmentation bomb for delivery. They also developed biological warfare using plague-infected fleas which were air-dropped over provinces in China. The Japanese attacked hundreds of heavily populated communities and remote regions with germ bombs. There appears to have been a massive germ war campaign in Yunnan Province bordering Burma. Planes dropped plague-infected fleas over Ningbo in eastern China and over Changde in north-central China, Japanese troops also dropped cholera and typhoid cultures in wells and ponds. In all, tens of thousands, and perhaps as many 200,000, Chinese died of bubonic plague, cholera, anthrax and other diseases. In addition, Japan had utilized balloon bombs against us, even though most did little or no damage. The thought was that the balloons could be utilized in germ warfare and would be virtually undetectable by our radar. Had their plans worked, we could have had many tens or hundreds of thousands of casualties on our west coast stemming from any of these attacks. Stop trying to make the Japs look like innocent victims in this. They attacked us FIRST. We finished it.
Wow, I Have Officially Seen Everything... A Ring Winger Thomas P by ZombieSolutions	Aug 10th, 2005 10:09:38 AM
holy shit. i wasn't aware that Republicans were allowed to read anything besides the Bible and/or the Left Behind series. you know Pynchon is a pretty hard left kinda guy, right? wonders never cease.
On the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki... by anchorite	Aug 10th, 2005 10:13:30 AM
Paul Tibbets who flew the Enola Gay bomber and dropped the atomic bomb, recalled a meeting with Japanese pilot Mitsuo Fuchida who transmitted the radio signal "Tora! Tora! Tora!" indicating that a successful Pearl Harbor attack was underway. Fuchida told him, "You did the right thing. You know the Japanese attitude at that time, how fanatic they were, they'd die for the Emperor. Can you imagine what a slaughter it would be to invade Japan?" Fuchida continued. "It would have been terrible. You did the right thing. The Japanese people know more about that than the American public will ever know." Interesting, coming from two of the men perhaps most qualified to speak on the matter.
Although There Is No Excuse For BURNING WOMEN AND CHILDREN ALIVE by ZombieSolutions	Aug 10th, 2005 11:08:37 AM
a few years ago I was living in Japan and taught English. It may have been in deference to me as a foreginer, but during conversaions of WWII, most of the old guys i taught told me they felt that Japan deserved what they got! I shit you not. I was stunned by this -- how honest and honorable that sentiment was. Being able to admit that Imperial japan had committed crimes against humanity. Naturally, the US, by and large, is TOTALLY UNABLE to admit ANY WRONGDOING ever. The poular conciousness in the US is like that of an infant, a toddler, a child. Or, of course, a retarded adult. Personally, I think the MASS MURDER OF INNOCENT WOMEN AND CHILDREN is always wrong, but, the Japanese did it to. As did the germans, of course. In short, with the wholesale MELTING of INNOCENT CIVILIANS, the US was no better or worse than the Axis. .. regardless of how much we've all been brainwashed into thinking the Allies were "good" and the Axis was "evil." we were ALL bad. and that's that.
Zombie, I have to agree, in part, with what you've concluded by anchorite	Aug 10th, 2005 11:57:10 AM
It has historically been very difficult for our citizenry to admit when we have been "bad". I am not happy that we had a slave industry for over a century here in the U.S., nor do I take pride in the way we treated the Native American tribes. But those atrocities took place over a century before you or I were even born. We have obviously learned from those mistakes and have tried to better our society. The bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki was horrifying. The fact that it ended the war immediately was and has been a reassurance to us that it was the expedient and effective course of action to take. I will tell you this, and you can make of it what you will: by unleashing the atomic bomb on Japan and allowing the world to see the devastation it caused, no other country has since utilized it in war. Clearly the ramifications have been seriously considered. No other government has wanted to be saddled with the moral and ethical burden of using such a device. Nor have they wanted to deal with the armageddon that would likely ensue were they to use it. The bombings were a terrible experiment. They worked to end what would quite possibly have become an even bloodier continuance of world war, and has caused us all to take a step back and weigh the consequences of using such vicious tactics in the future. In that regard, our bombing of Japan has, to this point, kept any other use of nuclear weapons at bay. What worries me now is the emergence of groups that have the ability to attack with these weapons, and at the same time possess a social, moral and ethical disconnect from any particular country that could be targeted for reprisal. Instead, they represent an ideology and a fanatacism that is present in dozens of countries world-wide. Were we to retaliate, it truly would be a world war, on a global scale. So what would be the answer? And as far as our being no better or worse than the Axis... when Hitler killed the Jews (and others) by the millions, it was to utterly exterminate them. When the Japanese killed the Chinese by the hundreds of thousands, it was to eradicate a threat. When we unleashed the bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, it was with the hopes of halting any further deaths from war. We had no intention or exterminating the Japanese people. We wanted to stop the war, once and for all (lest you forget, the Emperor had refused to surrender, and Japan was gearing up for further assaults on America). I am not usually a proponent of the ends justifying the means, but it seems the Japanese people are more understanding and forgiving of our actions than you are.
When's the last time we invaded or attacked Pakistan or Nort by anchorite	Aug 10th, 2005 12:23:12 PM
Your logic is so flawed, it bears repeating. Your logic is flawed! It's not a comparable situation! And I admit to having no idea what your next post was. How is that supposed to relate to my earlier post? I'm just not following you, I guess.
And don't be a smart ass. I know we were at war with North K by anchorite	Aug 10th, 2005 12:30:34 PM
And Pakistan? They'd be much more likely to lob bombs at India than at us. I'm not worried about the governments of these countries as much as the fanatic groups with terrorist ties and a network that is capable of purchasing even a small-yield radiological device that can be smuggled into the U.S.
Damn my slow typing skills! I knew you'd be a smart ass! by anchorite	Aug 10th, 2005 12:31:13 PM

Golly gee, Sparklecopy, with that line of thinking, why do any o by anchorite	Aug 10th, 2005 12:32:42 PM

And luckily, neither are you... by anchorite	Aug 10th, 2005 02:00:02 PM
Without a sense of humor, that is.
Clearly We Come From Different Side of the Political Spectrum, B by ZombieSolutions	Aug 10th, 2005 02:07:03 PM
well whattaya know! maybe bi-partisinism is possible to a certain extent... and yeah, i know that by the numbers facist Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan were much worse than the ALLIES. and as you pointed out and understand, the US were also slave owners and committed acts of near-genocide in our past. and you agree with me that most americans seem unwilling to admit this to themselves -- our not exactly spotless history. regardless, i do think that there is something to be said for the point you made in re: the use of the bomb. it is arguable that an invasion may have been even worse for both sides. AND it probably still wold have resulted in the use of the bomb. hard to say. i will say this, though, that the jury is out on the Emperors surrender. some historians say that he DID surrender, but due to cultural ignorance / misunderstanding, we didn't get it. regardless, that's up for debate, so i can't say with certainty. but all of those women and children literally melted alive? it horrifies me. why not just bomb the Pacific fleet? detonated in the air, it could have literally wiped out what remained of Japan's once mighty Imperial navy. it's the killing civilians thing... i just can't get past it. it's horrifying and it breaks my heart. anyways, cheers! maybe theres hope for our fledgling republic yet!
Or perhaps we are actually trying to stay there as long as it t by anchorite	Aug 10th, 2005 02:49:53 PM
For you, that would be soooooo disappointing.
And it is entirely possible that a rival government may well fu by anchorite	Aug 10th, 2005 02:51:51 PM
With the crappy intelligence services we have at our disposal, they may even get away with it. I'm certainly praying that never happens to us. Aren't you?
"Why Iraq, and not Iran, North Korea, China, or wherever else ne by Ill Clinton	Aug 10th, 2005 03:30:31 PM
Because in Iraq we can.
better titles by yanksno1	Aug 10th, 2005 03:46:03 PM
Harry & Herc, Can you guys please give better and in this case more respective titles? Saying "Peter Jennings is Gone" one could take that to think he's been kidnapped, is missing, etc. Rather then saying "Peter Jennings is Gone" you can say "Petter Jennings has passed away". I think that's a bit more respectful. Also Herc, do you really need to say you haven't seen a show? I realize your posting the ep for talkback, but simply post the name of the show and ep #. If you've seen it, then you can say "Herc's seen..." I really don't care if you haven't seen the new ep, only if you have. Not trying to be a nag guys, but this is starting to bug me.
Parklecopy, if that is the most ridiculous thing you've ever by anchorite	Aug 10th, 2005 05:16:30 PM
It makes me wonder, then, what on earth happened to you! And as far as why Iraq and not other places... the people in Iraq are far more likely to accept the idea of a democratic government now than in Iran or North Korea. China may be able to accept democracy (they are already moving toward capitalism), but in Iraq it is also out of necessity for our own safety. Having a more friendly government in the region can and will be a huge boon for us. It's not ridiculous or naive to think we can help cultivate a government that is more friendly (or at least less openly hostile) toward us. What do you think our reason for being over there is? OIL???
I meant, Sparklecopy, not Parklecopy. Sorry for that... by anchorite	Aug 10th, 2005 05:17:02 PM

Matthew McGrory has indeed passed away... by anchorite	Aug 10th, 2005 05:43:52 PM
And he had been filming a biopic about Andre the Giant. He was only 32. Sad indeed.
Let's see... by ALotCooler	Aug 10th, 2005 06:01:40 PM
Youre right brob, one NY Times article is equal to the daily headlines I see on my homepage pointing the finger at every other country on the planet. I'm glad that you've so astutely assessed that I, nor anyone sharing my views (libs I believe we're often derogatively called) don't actually care about anything that we stand up for. And I was wondering when you would trout out the de jour argument of liberal bashers everywhere, the "well X group is worse than the U.S." Who cares if other people were doing the "SAME THINGS". We don't live in those countries so we try to change things here, and someone else doing something bad hardly makes what we do better. I've actually had people tell me "well we're a lot better than the terrorists" as if that's some kind of accomplishment. Great, we're better than scum sucking douche bags. Is that the moral equivalancy we're dropping to. It's such a juvenile argument. But mommy, they were bad too. Who the fuck cares? Again, we criticize some of our governments actions because we effing live here. Me fighting for health care reform in Germany wouldn't make a helluvalot of sense, no? A few more things, I don't want a socialist gvt. "Food for Babies"... don't you think it's sad, sad that Democrats actually have to argue with Republicans for things like school lunch or more Head Start money. Jesus Christ, like "You hate America" or "You hate the troops" is an easy platitude to argue against. Aaaahhhh.
AHAHahahhaah Anchorite is one funny MFer. by ALotCooler	Aug 10th, 2005 06:31:12 PM
This shit is too funny sometimes. So we had to Nuke Japan because (Bush voice) "they had WMD's and a means to deliver them to the U.S. using balloons, kind of like.. like drone planes, lotsa.. lotsa anthrax... bu-bubonotic plague." So I read your Weekly Standard (one of the most conservative magazines on the planet) article and didn't see anything new or compelling. So the Japane

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