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Neill Cumpston Showers BATMAN BEGINS With... Praise!!

First.... to agree with Neill, that is. by The Shyster	Jun 15th, 2005 03:19:31 AM
"Nice coat" Best Batman...ever.
Just got back from the midnight screening. Nolan's Batman i by Barry Egan	Jun 15th, 2005 03:19:47 AM
Oh, and the audience went nuts for the Serenity trailer.
Last by Grand Masta Salt	Jun 15th, 2005 03:20:15 AM

I concur by LUZER	Jun 15th, 2005 03:21:00 AM
incredibly kick ass
YOU! by Dmann	Jun 15th, 2005 03:23:57 AM
are gay
and oh yeah... by LUZER	Jun 15th, 2005 03:24:00 AM
...the fear gas effects were handled very effectively. Can't wait to see it in IMAX. www.LUZERonline.com
Wow by PietjePuk	Jun 15th, 2005 03:28:04 AM
I went to the Dutch premiere last night (on IMAX) and this movie rocks!
"Boobs Out Carla Gugino" by Chief J	Jun 15th, 2005 03:37:58 AM
What a lovely nickname.
I hate reviewers like this by mcflytrap	Jun 15th, 2005 03:39:29 AM
Gotta put your wisecracks in every 2 seconds like we're all going to be impressed w/ your wit...AICN isn't going to be your big comedy break nor will any of us want to suck your dick because you come up with lame jokes all the time.....and by the way, the actors voices weren't dubbed douchebag
not really by mcflytrap	Jun 15th, 2005 03:50:25 AM
i don't find him funny one bit and ended up skimming through the "review" because of the lame jokes....good for him he's famous...all the more reason to shut the fuck up
It's too short & it's been too long ago by moviemaniac-7	Jun 15th, 2005 03:57:44 AM
But Neil's back! Can't he review every movie here on AICN? Have to check out the movie myself, but it sounds cool from everything I hear (except for the third act).
Beat George Clooney up with his ice skates by Gheorghe Zamfir	Jun 15th, 2005 04:01:52 AM
Hehe, funny simply cause sometimes I forget (i.e. block out) how truly crappy Batman & Robin really was.
I can't verify this but ... by Shan	Jun 15th, 2005 04:06:42 AM
... I read somewhere that George Clooney watches "Batman and Robin" once a year to remind himself how bad it was - and presumably to make sure he never does anything like it ever again. That can only be good news for us, surely ... ?
I like Neil on Tom Goes to the Mayor. QUALITY! by LordEnigma	Jun 15th, 2005 04:15:59 AM
Yeah. Rather tame, but his last review sucked hard. Again, a comic genius as himself, can kick ass and take names in a short amount of words. At least he still has his slot on a TV show.
Don't hate Batman & Robin. by Trevor Goodchild	Jun 15th, 2005 04:35:15 AM
It's not a good film but at least it knew what it was. Unashamedly garish and daft. Films only deserve hate when they pretend to be something else and made only with vanity-The Last Samurai-Battlefield Earth-Closer-Alfie etc. B & R was surely just as camp and silly as the old sixties Adam West series just not funny.
Which was worse-Punisher or Daredevil by Trevor Goodchild	Jun 15th, 2005 04:45:43 AM

Liam was far better as Ras than as Quigon by Breotan	Jun 15th, 2005 05:06:42 AM
In SW:TPM, Liam was supposed to me a master training a pupil. He never really conveyed it well. Not his fault, mind you. His character didn't have much depth to it, or personality. As Ras, Liam is a master who gets to watch his student grow beyond him. Liam actually feels like Christian's mentor. You can actually believe the relationship. Dang, Batman Begins is a great movie. Repeat business, people. Tell your friends.
GAY this... by no-no	Jun 15th, 2005 05:08:48 AM
...gay that, grow up?
Liam Neeson is not British by darth_mig	Jun 15th, 2005 05:16:02 AM
He's Irish. Although he was born in Ballymena, which is officially UK territory, try telling an Irish Catholic nationalist - such as Neeson - that they're British. He played Michael Collins for fuck sake
Can that Inbloom guy from the olther thread please post his theo by Rogue_Leader	Jun 15th, 2005 05:19:23 AM
I'm curious to hear this. Seriously! ;)
Finally... by spanishlullaby	Jun 15th, 2005 05:22:12 AM
... someone dares "speak the truth" about Cruise!!
that review was a load of wank by Mr Chuff	Jun 15th, 2005 05:25:12 AM
I could've done a better review than that and I havent even seen it yet. What a piss-lid.
Agent Alonzo by Mr Chuff	Jun 15th, 2005 05:31:35 AM
a "fairly successful stand-up comedian"?? The one hired to make the Batman & Robin script funnier apparently... If you know so much about this absolute cow-pat of a reviewer then tell us who he really is so we can "laugh" at his "hilarious" routines sometime.
This is a review? Cumpston thinks hes funny but hes lost his tou by Spacesheik	Jun 15th, 2005 06:11:26 AM
kinda sad to read through really, a bit embarrasing altho i did like the 'katie holmes is so hot she could turn tom cruise straight' bit.
Neill Cumpston Is Clearly Gay! by RKO Classic	Jun 15th, 2005 06:19:40 AM
Quite obviously the gentleman doth protest too much. Sure, some of the previous films were camp, but please do avoid using "gay" in such negative connotations. It makes you sound like a rabid homophobe, and there really are too many of those bigots in the world. It has been shown in experiments that those who have such pented up anger, are in fact deeply homosexual. Quite clearly, Neill is infatuated by homosexuality. I think it is fabulous that he should have come out of his deep, dark cupboard, after a session with Joel Schumacher. ....and yes, I am British.
Cruise is gay? Evidence, please? by Dewi	Jun 15th, 2005 06:21:56 AM

Cruise is Gay? Evidence, please! by Dewi	Jun 15th, 2005 06:27:17 AM
AFAIK, the only evidence is that a lot of gay men fancy Cruise - have done ever since he flashed his Y-fronts in "Risky Business". Hardly his fault! A lot of straight women fancied Rock Hudson, and he really was gay.
tired and weak by evolvingsensblty	Jun 15th, 2005 06:36:22 AM
hang it up cumstain.
no way by SteM	Jun 15th, 2005 06:49:35 AM
Cillian Murphy is Irish you stupid dick.
Gotta be the most homophobic review I've ever read in this s by Dead Megatron	Jun 15th, 2005 07:33:39 AM
And belive me, I've read a few. True, Schumacker's Batman movies were too gay, but, man, will you change the subject?
CHUD.com Reviews by InZodWeTrust	Jun 15th, 2005 07:46:18 AM
These guys are dead to me. They are almost oging OUT of their way to bash shit these days. Its pretty sad. I know everybody has a bone to pick with Devin Faraci, but now I do too. His review of Batman Begins was an exercise in pot-stirring, looking for attention. The Italian Connection of Nick and Devin have jumped the shark, ladies and genital-men. Anyhow. I saw it on Monday, and ever since I have been waiting for the right time to go and see it again. It is that good people. I have been reading Batman comics for 22 years and change, still DO, and this is as close to Batman as YOU CAN GET. PERIOD.
CHUD.com Reviews Vol. II by InZodWeTrust	Jun 15th, 2005 07:50:51 AM
Case in point, their pretentious "Look, all of our staff have reviewed Episode III... Look at us tear down the movie." The way they disected EVERY SINGLE ASPECT of the film proves they think they are above the general public. EP. III simply was NOT AS BAD AS THEY reviewed it as. It was like they were expecting a film on the scope of Aliens, and when they got what they simply SHOULD HAVE FUCKING KNOWN TO EXPECT, they piss and shit all over it like they have some sort of bizarro-stock in it. I just don't get the hate from these guys lately. Sorry to bother you, had to get it off my chest.
You know, my 12-year-old cousin and his friends sound just like by SpyGuy	Jun 15th, 2005 07:53:04 AM
So at the very least, all the twelve-year-olds that check out this site probably thought he was funny. Kinda sucks for the rest of us, though...
Humorless internet dorks... by California Split	Jun 15th, 2005 08:04:14 AM
Cumpston is wasted on you. Although it is funny reading how indignant about your ignorance you can be. Do you send in op-ed pieces to The Onion too?
Ringbearer9 is DEVIN!!!!!! by InZodWeTrust	Jun 15th, 2005 08:04:18 AM
Kidding. Like I said, I saw the film, and I am pretty critical, and I don't let shit slide, ESPECIALLY when it comes to my beloved crop of DC Comics icons, and I can honestly say tha the last 40 minutes are not the "Trainwreck" they proclaim. The last 40 minutes are action driven and quite possibly the only thing in the movie that gets you out of your seat cheering. I had the luxury and privledge of winning Premiere Passes to both Star Wars and Batman Begins, and the crowd at the end of Sith was dead silent. DEAD SILENT from FOX FANFARE to to END CREDITS. Batman on the other hand, got cheers DURING and AFTER WARD, along with a standing ovations. Both films had packed houses with a mixture of fnaboys like me, and mainstream genpub. If you thought Sith was a summer smash, just wait until the you see Batman Begins.
Cumpston's reviews have gone downhill since his "Matrix: You by Mr. Waturi	Jun 15th, 2005 08:18:30 AM

CHUD by Shigeru	Jun 15th, 2005 08:21:26 AM
I almost always love those guys' writing and reviews, but at the end of sifting through all 4 Ep III reviews, I just felt like emailing them all 4 words: "Lighten the fuck up!" Anyhoo CHUD still rocks.
IinZodWeTrust is Right About Chud... by Brock Samson	Jun 15th, 2005 08:27:03 AM
As much as Harry is overly praiseful of certain films that in no way deserve it, the crew at Chud, especially Devin, try way too hard to tear down films that aren't bad at all. At least most of the Chud crew liked Batman, but Devin got to write the sites full review. Coupled with Nick's bizzare love of Ocean's 12, and the site is better for movie and DVD news, not reviews.
Batman & Robin was Schumacker's fault, not Clooney by I Dunno	Jun 15th, 2005 08:28:49 AM
Clooney shouldn't beat himself up about B&R. He can play a bad ass when properly directed. See Dusk Till Dawn. B&R's shittyness is all on the screen writer and on Shumacker's sore ass. As for Tom Cruise being gay, who cares? Are you guys supposed to be film geeks or gossipy housewives? Cruise might be a psycho cultist who makes mostly shitty films but he was a natural in Interview with the Vampire, where he played a...well...ok, he played an ambigously gay vampire. But he was the bomb in Collateral, yo. That counts for something. Oh, and David Cross is way to funny to be this Mitch Cumstein character.
Brock...you make some good points... by Ray Garraty #47	Jun 15th, 2005 08:31:13 AM
...but you have to admit that at least Chud's reviews (screencaps not withstanding) are better written and they don't start with 5 paragraphs like "The other day Brent Ratner and I ate lunch together" or "Let me tell you where I'm coming from...I liked Equilibrium but hated Hellboy, I like vanilla and hate chocolate..." blah blah blah
Why was this even posted? by performingmonkey	Jun 15th, 2005 08:53:24 AM
I can't believe that a 'review' featuring phrases like 'he was in some black and white Spielberg movie which won a prize which = I will never see it' and 'But they
internet argument a-go-go by evolvingsensblty	Jun 15th, 2005 08:59:36 AM
-that wasn't funny! -oh, you just didn't get it! -no, i got it, i just didn't think it was funny. -no ,if you got it, you would have thought it was funny. -i got the joke, i just didn't think...etc. etc. cumpston's act was funny the first few times. now he's just repeating himself.
mcflytrap you fucking newbie... by Lost Skeleton	Jun 15th, 2005 09:00:52 AM
How dare you insult a AICN institution like Neil Cumpston! A movie review ain't a movie review w/o Neil! Batman Begins is good, let's hope Supes is also next year.
Only on this site... by lead_sharp	Jun 15th, 2005 09:06:26 AM
Do you review the reviewers.
Singerman by InZodWeTrust	Jun 15th, 2005 09:10:22 AM
When leaving the moviehouse after absorbing the asskickery that IS Batman Begins, listen carefully. You can actually HEAR the pressure on Bryan Singer to top this. He has some big shoes to fill on this bad-boy. Brandon Routh ain't no Christian Bale. Superman Returns has trainwreck written all over it,
brandon routh by blackthought	Jun 15th, 2005 09:12:57 AM
he definately ain't no bale, hell he isn't even a dean cain!
Is this Neil Cumpston by Krigan	Jun 15th, 2005 09:24:09 AM
http://www.pattonoswalt.com/ Sure makes sense to me.
Neil Cumpston is by Krigan	Jun 15th, 2005 09:26:29 AM
heres a quote from the Patton oswalt site. "Wow. I've already told my superiors in the nerd mafia to ready their bat-boners." sounds like something Cumpston would say to me, he does love boners after all.
I saw the midnight showing... and while I was not blown away, it by JDanielP	Jun 15th, 2005 09:29:23 AM
I've read some reviews (both here and elswhere) while keeping spoilers to a minimum (skipping reviews with "spoiler warnings"). After all that, in short, I got (from the film) mostly what I expected. But if I went into the theatre knowing only the positive reviews, I'd feel disappointed. Even so, while I expected the movie's visuals to be a bit underwhelming (overall, as to how the film looked), I still felt disappointed by THAT element of the film. And I still feel let down by the action scenes. I'm a fan of the Jason Bourne movies... yet I expected as good or better fight scenes with "BATMAN BEGINS"... but no, I don't feel that. (Same with the "car chase" scene.) And surprisingly, I felt the BRUCE WAYNE fight scenes were much more satisfying and better than the BATMAN fight scenes. With Batman's more realistic technique, using stealth and surprise tactics, perhaps that isn't surprising. Yet to me, it still was. After all, this is BATMAN I'm talkin' about(!). I wish I could say that the visuals are worthy of David Fincher or Tim Burton, yet I can't. At the same time, I do appreciate this glossier, more realistic view of Gotham City... and if I had to compare it to the comic books, I'm reminded a bit of the Steve Englehart/Len Wein and Marshall Rogers great Batman run in the '70s. (In future sequels, I'd appreciate it if they pull a bit more from these issues.) I've posted here at AICN numerous times in the past as to my disappointment with the costume design. It's just that the costume can be better... while being faithful to even THIS (type of) design. Seeing more close-up shots of Bale in the cowl actually gave me a bit more relief... while the ears still bother me. And I appreciate the movement of the cape, though the material itself looks like it might make a decent shirt. I know these complaints about the costume might be overkill for many... but I want the costume to look cool in every way (no matter who is in the Bat-suit). My greatest joy of this film... besides telling the origin of Bruce Wayne (a wee bit different from the comic books) with depth... and the explaination of Batman's gadgets... may have actually been with the character Lucius Fox. I absolutely love the character as played by Morgan Freeman, who pulled the best parts from the character in what little screen-time he had. Lucius Fox was alienated by Wayne Corp. and has found a new friend in Bruce. You feel that joy and amusement in Freeman's character,... and his sense of enjoyment in Bruce's discovery of all the gadgets which were never put into production or developed for the military (as far as we know, which could be an interesting story element itself, in a future sequel). As to other performances... I feel that the director (Nolan) should have pushed for more emotion from Katie Holmes, specifically in a scene where she slaps Bruce (in her car). When I see an acting performance which falls short (no matter how little or big), I put quite a bit of blame on the director. But my compliments to the rest of the cast, none of whom go "over the top" and that's a GREAT thing. (But just remember... that you've got to feed those emotions to the audience, no matter how subtle.) I suppose I would have loved ever more intensity from Bale (due to the incredible character he is portraying)... but he does not disappoint. And while I'm on the subject of intensity, I would have loved for the film to push more in this area... with extreme close-ups of the fear in the eyes of at least one criminal,... and Batman invading the "personal space" of his victims,... forward intensity and... vaaaarrrrrrrroooooooooooomph.. . the music to push it ever more forward. You get what I'm saying??? I'm always looking for that Batman masterpiece. And I still am. But this is a great foundation for more hope. I'm okay with this. And I'll see it again.
One more thing... (minor spoiler) by JDanielP	Jun 15th, 2005 09:38:31 AM
... the hallucinatory "fear gas" shots of Batman should have computer animated into something greater.
Faggy by beelkay	Jun 15th, 2005 09:41:21 AM
I don't mind the occassional gay joke, but geez, this guy was laying them on a bit too thick. What a turn off. Also, Liam Neeson IS British. Ireland is part of the British Isles.
gay dr doom by Procrustean	Jun 15th, 2005 09:44:03 AM
HAS ANYONE SEEN THE FF COMMERCIAL?? WHERE DR DOOM SAYS: RIGHT ON QUE? WHEN DID DR DOOM SPEAK LIKE A METROSEXUAL PANSY BOY FOP? THAT AINT FUCKING DR FUCKING DOOM YOU FUCKING RETARD MOVIE LOSERS!
Cillian Murphy by beelkay	Jun 15th, 2005 09:45:18 AM
Also British...see above.
Neeson is Irish, as is Murphy by RetroActive	Jun 15th, 2005 10:03:31 AM
Beelkay...technically, he might carry the status of being a British National as well, but Northern Ireland is still a separate entity...much like Australia is. Therefore, he's Irish. Cillian Murphy is from County Cork. Ireland is not part of the British Isles. Check a map.
The British Isles? Are you a complete... by darth_mig	Jun 15th, 2005 10:11:16 AM
fucking moron!!? The British Isles is a convenient geographical description that Irish people loathe. There is no such legal entity as the British Isles. Ireland fought a War of Independence for fuck sake. It's been a totally independent Republic since 1948. So living on the imaginary 'British Isles' - or British and Irish Isles as is its correct description
darth-mig... by RetroActive	Jun 15th, 2005 10:22:11 AM
you tell 'em! hey, has anyone else noticed the underlying growling of a lot of the papers' reviews about the amount of British (& Irish) actors in the movie? Somebody quit their whining! I also love how all of a sudden...they're trying to tell you that there isn't enough action...and trying to make a comic hero "plausible" and "realistic" is a waste. Imagine having dinner with one of these vapid jackasses. I'd rather eat a bowful of lead paint!
by darth_mig	Jun 15th, 2005 10:27:41 AM
Thanks Retro. As for monkeytennis, 800 years of oppression perhaps? But I jest
Yeah, let's argue nationalities some more, shall we? by Garbageman33	Jun 15th, 2005 10:27:48 AM
Come on, people, he started the article by calling the movie, "Here Comes Batman". Do you really think he checked his facts? Actually, here's an idea...and I might be taking crazy pills here, but maybe, just maybe, he got things wrong...on purpose.
Garbageman33... by darth_mig	Jun 15th, 2005 10:32:32 AM
I don't think so, since he does seem actually that stupid. And to be honest, I don't want to give him the benefit of the doubt. Altho maybe he's really Mickey Suttle. The line about dubbing the actors' voices so they don't sound 'faggy' was possibly one of the most foolish things I've ever read on this site. And it has had some competition
Irish, English, Australian, American... by RetroActive	Jun 15th, 2005 10:35:54 AM
Let's all blame Canada! I'm out. Good day to you all.
And anyway, British actors... by darth_mig	Jun 15th, 2005 10:36:12 AM
particularly the older ones, tend to raise the IQ of these sort of comic book/fantasy films any time they're on screen. Can only be a good thing. The list is long. McKellen and Stewart in X-Men, McKellen and Lee in Lord of the Rings etc etc... and of course the most famous Alec Guinness in Star Wars
Umm, yeah, see, that's the thing, his reviews are SUPPOSED t by Garbageman33	Jun 15th, 2005 10:46:49 AM
In fact, that's kinda the point. Do you also read the Onion and get all up in arms that "Habitrails for Humanity" is under attack for building substandard plastic tube housing?
foolish reviews by darth_mig	Jun 15th, 2005 10:56:26 AM
Well, that's fair enough Garbageman33. I didn't know that. To be honest that's the first time I've read one of his reviews. As one who infrequently dabbles in the movie-internet underworld I didn't know anything about him. To the ignorant observer, that seemed like the greatest load of trying-to-be-funny-but-failing -spectacularly horseshit I'd read in a while
people that are taking Neil seriously... by Shigeru	Jun 15th, 2005 11:08:18 AM
are probably the same people that write hate mail to realultimatepower.net about the true historical facts about ninjas.
Any proof on who this guy is? by wackynephews	Jun 15th, 2005 11:16:35 AM
Because if it's Patton Oswalt then he's missed a step because he's usually cutting edge on his irony and imitating an AICN TBer is so early 2000. BTW, the Irish hate the Brits because the Brits made the Irish subservient to them for hundreds of years. Don't even get me started on the Irish famine!
we don't hate the Brits... by darth_mig	Jun 15th, 2005 11:22:53 AM
we just don't want to be called British. Americans wouldn't like to be called Canadian (or British for that matter considering most of them are!!). We have our own national identity, and probably due to the fact we're such a small country, are insecure about being forgotten about, like to assert our identity. Particularly in the case of successful compatriots - such as Neeson and Cillian Murphy. As for the Famine, come on mate it was over a century and a half ago, and if the truth be told the British government were not ENTIRELY responsible for it. Surely we can get over the whole hating Britain thing... Although I still love it when they get knocked out of a European Championships or World Cup
England getting knocked out that is... by darth_mig	Jun 15th, 2005 11:24:28 AM
not Britain. There are no British football teams. I don't want to sound like a fool
This reviewer seriously has "gay on the brain" by Flip63Hole	Jun 15th, 2005 11:43:22 AM
Good luck with that. No way is this child a semi-famous anything.
How to write like Neil by Nozoki	Jun 15th, 2005 11:46:05 AM
1. Retitle the movie you are reviewing. 2. Don't use actor's real names. Call them by the name of a past role. Bonus points if you combine two roles to make one name. 3. Point out how super fucking hot the lead actress is. 4. Mention gays and testicles a lot.
British by ROBE	Jun 15th, 2005 11:47:56 AM
I was born in Lisburn, Northern Ireland. Like most people (non Catholics)in Northern Ireland I view myself as British (and hold a British Passport). Liam Neeson is a Catholic and he did star in a historically inaccurate IRA propaganda movie, so he probably views himself as Irish. On the issue of why so many British and Irish actors appear in the movie, that is due to American actors liking "nice roles", Hollywood usually gets foreigners to play the weirdos. Christian Bale previously played American Psycho because American actors like clean cut hero roles.
Laying the gay on a bit too thick? Oh my my... by Johnno	Jun 15th, 2005 11:56:27 AM
What? One reference to neon lights and the word gay and another about costumes and rollerskating planet gay... stereotypical stuff, doesn't sound so bad t'me coming from the guy that called Jesus Christ a zombie when comparing Passion to that zombie movie... lighten up ya intolerant pansies!
oh yeah... by Johnno	Jun 15th, 2005 11:59:16 AM
Saw this midnight, this movie rocked... action was a bit too shaky and that was the only thing I felt was wrong (That's not including the scarecrow and hallucinogen and batman pulling people from the shadows where the shaky style worked) But otherwise great film! Perhaps the first batman movie I'll buy on DVD.
CHUD Plants are gay! by GILFHunter	Jun 15th, 2005 12:01:41 PM
Who cares about CHUD? Site sucks anyway. They left my bookmarks a long time ago. Cumpston rulez.
You unbelievable morons... by DocPazuzu	Jun 15th, 2005 12:09:10 PM
How is it some of you twats still don't understand that NC's reviewing style is all in-character shtick? I
Britain by p_vergilis	Jun 15th, 2005 12:16:05 PM
Whether or not Ireland is part of the British Isles is a matter of who you choose as the Authority. 95% of Dictionaries and Encyclopedias (not to mention Geographic Societies) list Ireland among the British Isles. But if you want to choose a few disgruntled nationalists as your authority then feel free. And Northern Ireland IS part of the UK, just like Scotland, England, and Wales. It is NOT just a member of the commonwealth like Australia.
addendum by p_vergilis	Jun 15th, 2005 12:18:08 PM
...and political correctness notwithstanding, gay = funny
Perhaps... by onemanbland	Jun 15th, 2005 12:22:55 PM
http://www.pattonoswalt.com/ht /spew_june.html#061205
Hi, Freeze, I'm Batman (big smile) by Doc_Strange	Jun 15th, 2005 12:36:12 PM
"You're mad Freeze, MAD!!!" Damn, that movie sucked.
"Americans wouldn't like to be called Canadian (or British f by adambalm	Jun 15th, 2005 12:36:45 PM
Interesting analogy. That makes me think. If someone mistook me for British, I'd laugh and kindly remind them, no, I'm American. However, if someone mistook me for Canadian, I'd wait til they were looking the other direction, and then I'd kick them in the back and run.
darth_mig by lynxpro	Jun 15th, 2005 12:56:59 PM
Well, the Southern Irish Republic is part of the Council of the Isles that was instituted during the first years of Blair's reign to improve relations between not only Britain and Ireland, but to also foster relations between the Welsh Assembly, the Scottish Parliament, Northern Ireland, the (Southern) Irish Republic, and of course, England. The Islands are referred to as "The British Isles." And even the IRA declares (from time to time) that the Irish Republic government are a bunch of neo-colonials and pseudo-British. As I was corrected on another website, the original Sein Fein (sic) was a monarchist party, and thus the current organization with that name does not match the originators. The Irish Republic did not enter what is now the European Union until the UK was also admitted, since both economies were/are linked closely. That has been drifting in the past few years since the Irish Republic chose to adopt the Euro as its currency while the UK did not. The Potato Famine was not the result of the British government. The British government wanted the Irish to plant other crops besides the potato. The Irish chose not to. Could the British have done more to aid the Irish? Yes. But at the time, the British Government's efforts at relieving the famine was the world's largest aid relief carried out since the times of the Roman Empire. You can't fault them on that. You can fault them for insisting that the Irish peasants actually worked on government projects to receive their food aid instead of handing it out without strings. To his credit, Blair did apologize for the past. But let's look at what you'all share. The English language, for better or worse. The English common law legal system. Pubs. Preferred measurement system (despite both nation states adopting the Metric system). Fanatical soccer fans. Most of us Americans (who generally have ancestry of both groups) wished you guys would get along and find all your shared strengths instead of the things that you disagree upon. After all, you guys should get along better with each other than with the French and the rest of the Euros. It would be a nice gesture to the Irish (imho) Catholics if Britain struck down the law forbidding its monarch from being Catholic. Oh, and one other thing. To my knowledge, except for one short period, Ireland had never been a united island until the English came to town, so the "Irish" nationhood is a modern concept and construct. Kinda like labelling all aboriginal natives in the United States as "Indians," "American Indians," or "Native Americans" without making tribal distinctions.
Far cry... by Christopher3	Jun 15th, 2005 01:07:41 PM
From the infamous "Hobbit Man: The King Returns" review. Harry, you should post that one as an AICN classic.
so it's established then? by mcflytrap	Jun 15th, 2005 01:15:54 PM
crumstain or whatever the fuck patton's name is sucks ass and should not be allowed near a keyboard....thankfully, the movie was cool as hell (yes hell can be cool, too)....god, my 18-year old sister is 100x funnier than this never-was
Tom "Maverick" Cruise is gay because... by scrumdiddly	Jun 15th, 2005 01:19:54 PM
he's gay in movies. And since, presumably, that's the only place he exists for all of us, he is gay.
patton, don't you have a shooting of "best week ever" to do? by mcflytrap	Jun 15th, 2005 01:24:52 PM
you know, the one with all the never-was pseudo-comedians all trying to top each other with the lamest jokes and puns i've ever heard?
Chud reviews are better written, Ray Garraty #47 by Brock Samson	Jun 15th, 2005 01:29:35 PM
They are so much more interesting to read than the usual Harry ones, especially since there's actual criticism. Still, the automatic negativity is bothersome. Though I like the way the do their DVD reviews. CHUD's still useful.
mcfly, you can keep on trying to make fun of the reviewer by Pimp Juice	Jun 15th, 2005 01:30:57 PM
But it won't make you any less of a moron. I know its harsh to be come out swinging in your first post only to be immediately shown up as an idiot, but just take your losses and crawl back to your hole.
pimp juice by mcflytrap	Jun 15th, 2005 01:32:38 PM
lol...this guy sucks ass...and if he's allowed to make fun of everyone he wants then so can i...sorry to get your panties all bunched up...hahaha...what a douche
You Are All Diseased by Alex Childress	Jun 15th, 2005 01:34:47 PM
Batman reigns. Singer's got a hell of a challenge. Everyone who takes Neil/Patton (or possibly Brian Posehn) seriously is as idiotic and assholian as people who can't take irreverent humor for what it is. I hope George Carlin trolls these boards so he can give all of us the proper drubbing we deserve.
Of course your "allowed" to make fun of him by Pimp Juice	Jun 15th, 2005 01:49:15 PM
Just saying it makes you look like a bigger moron than you already made yourself out to be.
Only on this site can a comment like, "I hate gay apologists/def by Garbageman33	Jun 15th, 2005 02:10:04 PM
I'll ask again, what does it take to get banned around here? Apparently, blatant hate speech isn't enough. What if you took Peter Jackson's name in vain? Would that be more likely to get you kicked to the curb? I enjoy the witty repartee around here as much as the next guy, but it's getting harder and harder to dismiss the rampant intolerance, racism and homophobia.
Another BAT-tastic review... by RedneckJedi	Jun 15th, 2005 02:14:23 PM
...from Jackie Harvey, of The Onion's "Outside Scoop"! I'm surprised The Onion lets him work (and say such nasty things!) for another website.
Cumpston = Patton Oswalt by Darth Busey	Jun 15th, 2005 02:16:24 PM
The game is afoot.
Did Patton get paid by the minute in that abortion they called " by Darth Busey	Jun 15th, 2005 02:19:41 PM
Patton, in your 6 hours on the set, did you feel uncomfortable at any point around Snipes as they were stealing the franchise from underneath his feet?
Brits & Americans acting profiles by RetroActive	Jun 15th, 2005 02:21:05 PM
Sorry to back things up but... As for ROBE's dissection of the British=weirdo, American=clean cut roles. Look beyond the Hollywood mainstream and there are plenty of actors, some A-list, plenty not, willing to expand their horizons. I think yours is an oversimplification of the argument, but you're entitled to your opinion. I just tend to disagree.
GarbageMan33 by RetroActive	Jun 15th, 2005 02:23:56 PM
Amen, brother. Amen.
Garbageman33 by Spamgelus	Jun 15th, 2005 02:24:25 PM
Unfortunately, as long as the internet is a haven for anonymous 12-year-olds with their daddy's opinions, the "intolerance, racism, and homophobia" will live on. Besides, do they even have anyone monitoring these talkbacks? And if they do, do you really want them banning people? Personally, I like to come in and read the moron-posts. It's a cheap laugh, sure, but at least it's proof that there's droves of stupid fuckers out there who never get laid.
12-Yr Old Haters by RetroActive	Jun 15th, 2005 02:31:40 PM
All the fluffy PC in the world can't cover up the anonymous haters, you know? It's the same reason the KKK wear masks. At least the people demanding equal rights have the balls to put their faces in front of the cause and step forward. The little hating bitches, young and old, prefer the shadows. Shine the light on them and they disband like the cockroaches they really are...or the few that do expose themselves as the freak shows they pretend not to be.
1st WotW Review @ Dark Horizons? by RetroActive	Jun 15th, 2005 02:43:30 PM
One minor semi-spoiler...if you'd even call it that. http://www.darkhorizons.com/ne ws05/050616a.php Sorry if someone already posted this. I just logged on a short time ago.
Ireland, Scotland, Wales by Bill da Butcher	Jun 15th, 2005 02:48:47 PM
Forget the Irish / British argument. It would be an insult if they called Liam English. I was born and raised in glorious Wales where the men are men and the sheep are worried, we have very good relations with our Celtic kin the Irish and the Scots. It is the English who I find difficult to stomach, having tried to eat a whole one once. Joking aside the dislike is very little to do with the hundreds of years of rape and pilage they have brought upon our three great nations, it's more to do with the fuckers buying all our houses and turning them into holiday homes, :).
Ireland = GB , NOT by ghkilgore	Jun 15th, 2005 02:50:43 PM
Saying that being from Ireland makes you British is like saying that being from Canada makes you American.
I want a boner made out of punching.... by Lolthien	Jun 15th, 2005 03:05:08 PM
really.
British by Bill da Butcher	Jun 15th, 2005 03:14:45 PM
You can show me an Atlas get Tony Blair to ring me if you like, call me anything other than Welsh to my face...... and I'd cry into my cornflakes
at least when CHUD by Right Bastard	Jun 15th, 2005 03:16:40 PM
gets the studio BJ, like for HHGG, they will still admit when the movie sucks balls (eventually). I've NEVER seen that on this site. And this site did the same thing for Ep III (with Mori, Quint, etc.) reviews, prominantly placing them. I think CHUD was a little too hard on Ep III, and AICN was way too easy. They balance each other. The CHUD interview of John Carpenter for The Fog remake was pathetic, though. They should have called him on a lot of the BS he was saying.
To all the AICN staffers... by Jordo	Jun 15th, 2005 03:49:23 PM
I implore you to use whatever stroke you have to make sure Goyer and Nolan are on board for the sequels. Please! This film is too good to just stand on its own.
Christopher3 by Trevor Goodchild	Jun 15th, 2005 03:50:04 PM
http://www.aintitcool.com/disp lay.cgi?id=16641
That WOTW review is a plant... by adambalm	Jun 15th, 2005 04:01:36 PM
I still can't understand why Spielberg chose to make this thing, or what he's trying to accomplish with it. First he rewrites the story making it closer to Signs, changing the loner of the book into a family man with kids, making it all from their point of view, fuck he even has a 'hiding in the basement from the aliens with axe' scene. Then we find out he took out the only things that separated it from all the other alien invasion movies of recent. (the fact that they come from MARS) Maybe it's impossible to make a movie about Martians without the audience busting a gut, I dunno. I think there's a chance it could have worked. But them coming from a parallel universe will be just as plausible for the average movie goer. As it stands now, this thing is all over the map. No cohesive vision or defining purpose, other than to show things blowing up and close ups of Dakota Fanning crying. If he wanted to make the book, he should have made the book. Instead he changes the entire core idea, but puts in a couple easter eggs for no apparent reason (
red weed by adambalm	Jun 15th, 2005 04:02:53 PM
red weed
Burton by chezberc	Jun 15th, 2005 04:29:10 PM
Am I the only one who really liked Burton's Batman movies (especially Batman Returns)? I mean, that's cool if the new movie's better, but seeing Burton's versions being lumped together with Schumacher's makes me want to vomit with rage!
Burton vs. Shumacher? by Breotan	Jun 15th, 2005 05:02:35 PM
I wouldn't lump Burton's two films in with the sewage that Shumacher gave us, but Burton's vision of Batman wasn't that great in retrospect. The first movie worked mainly because all the other super-hero movies before it were anal grease. Tim showed us that a super hero movie could be done in a way that didn't treat the viewer as an utter moron for buying a ticket. But it had problems. I have always despised Jack Nicholson's performance as the Joker. I also didn't like Michael Keaton as either Batman or Bruce Wayne. I especially hated reworking Batman's origin so that Batman and the Joker "created" each other. The decision to do this mystifies me to this day. :( But, despite the flaws, Burton's Batman was still good at the time. As for Batman Returns, Burton's take on the Penguin was inspired and I loved every moment Danny Devito was on screen. I didn't care much for Michelle Pfeiffer's Catwoman (I think Halle Berry did better in the kitty suit) and Keaton still rubbed me wrong. In the end, there was still too much "camp" in Burton's two films for my tastes. We were given an "off beat" batman with over-the-top comic-book villians while I was wanting for Frank Miller's Dark Knight. As for Shumacher's handling of the franchise... well, I can only say that he has sinned against God and I have not see any signs of repentence. Batman Begins is not perfect by any means, but it is vastly superior to all four of it's predecessors. The casting is dead on and the writing shows a greater level of care about the source material and the audience it is being presented to. The fight and chase scenes could have been better, but this is Batman BEGINS and not Batman PWNZORS YOUR NOOB MOMS so I'm not worried about that. Hopefully the DVD will have scenes added like LotR did.
LOL, Agent Alonzo by Bill da Butcher	Jun 15th, 2005 05:16:09 PM
It's true we have gone soft...we eat sheep in the bedroom now instead of the kitchen, as far as the fresh coal dust goes, can't get any since Maggie Thatcher closed all the fucking mines. :)
Record Straight by Bill da Butcher	Jun 15th, 2005 05:23:51 PM
All joking aside us Welsh are still men carved of stone...I myself a fine example of the true Welsh grit that made this Nation great, I think nothing of eating several Raw Custard Creams one after another. And I frequent many a local pub carrying a sawn off pop-gun.
simma' down, Celtic folk... by lynxpro	Jun 15th, 2005 05:29:57 PM
Otherwise, I'll just refer to you all as "European Union citizens." That's enough of an incentive for you to enjoy being labeled British instead... :) And Canadians are faux-Americans. Heh. (joking, while ducking).
what about Bale? by lynxpro	Jun 15th, 2005 05:39:08 PM
Here's one for the Welsh folk to answer. Supposedly, Christian Bale is ethnically Welsh. Yet he apparently refers to himself as being English and/or British. Whadduah make of that? And its a topical question too since Bale is Bats! What about Irish actor Pierce Brosnan as the ultimate symbol of Britain (besides Captain Britain) known as James Bond? How many Brits complained about that? From what I've seen, Empire magazine likes to lump both of the islands together. Perhaps you should blame the Romans for the offensive name of both large islands. Heh.
What did the Romans ever do for us.....lynxpro by Bill da Butcher	Jun 15th, 2005 05:51:17 PM
If that is true about Bale he can forget coming to my Nan's house for a cuppa tea the cunt. Bet he soon changes his mind when me and my small but very hard band of Cetic Warriors burn the English into the sea (only joking, don't want to be added to Tony's suspect terrorist list).
Celtic* not Cetic...hardly a good start to a campaign by Bill da Butcher	Jun 15th, 2005 05:58:39 PM
On topic, here in Wales I get to see BB in 19 hours time, having liked Burton's two only of the previous Batman films and loved Elfmans score. Anyone who has seen it, who scored this film and is it any good?
not convincing by teedadawg	Jun 15th, 2005 06:05:07 PM
This REALLY didn't sound or feel like a real Cumpston review. Though I did laugh out loud at the "beating the ass-fat off Bruce Wayne" remark!
Keaton was better by I Dunno	Jun 15th, 2005 06:58:04 PM
just got back. It was good but the fight scenes were way too blurry and close up and the action in general was rathe runinspired and too dark to make out what was going on. Bale played a fine pissed off guy but Keaton did mentally damaged much better. Overall I liked it. It was a welcome lemon wedge to Shumacker's harsh tequila shot.
Pass the Celt by Seepgood	Jun 15th, 2005 06:59:25 PM
In the interests of pushing this tangent a little bit further off-topic, you know the Scots aren't really Celtic, right? Oh sure, they'll tell you they are, and they are a bit. But mostly they're just a different variety of English. They'd just rather not know that.
umm..I guess this is what happens after believing the hype.. by metalpaul	Jun 15th, 2005 07:22:49 PM
You know, I just saw the noon show of Batman Begins and now I'm sitting back thinking I really need to lay off the "reviews" I read before the movie is out. My main comment on the movie? It just felt long. There were a bunch of little movies that reminded me of which ever that awful Batman movie was that had like five villans in it. This time, however, each little story was really good, some even great. The beginning was well done. I loved Ras-Al Ghul. The return to Gotham was er..lame. The Batman starts out was a neat horror-like spin on things, Scarecrow was cool but the scarecrow sub-plot was not. But what really bit my ass was the whole, Ras Al Ghul must destroy Gotham! thingie. What? Why was that again? O.k. The acting was great. Christian Bale was Batman, and more importantly, he was Bruce Wayne. Katie Holmes was o.k. but I had a hard time getting over the fact that she can only talk out one side of her mouth. Mr Caine's spin on Alfred was great. But for my buck Jim Gorden was God. He looked as if Frank Miller had created a person to actually look like Jim Gordon. I know I'm rambling..but I just needed to spew
Here's the deal with the Celts... by Kid Z	Jun 15th, 2005 07:32:26 PM
... They ALL HATE the friggin' British. The Irish hate 'em, the Scots hate 'em, the Welsh hate 'em, even the Cornish hate 'em. Hell I was in a pub in Glascaw once with a coupla friends from New Zealand and almost got into a raging barfight 'cause some'a the locals thought my Kiwi friends were English. (Sorry about the Ben Grimm accent, tend to do that when talkin' barfights). Anyway, this was before "W" & being a Yank and neutral, I was able to make peace... Now, though, I'd probably be the first one these crazed highlanders would take out (Thanks, President Dickweed!)
who is this chick Man?!! by amaell	Jun 15th, 2005 07:49:21 PM
"Batman Begins" You know you're in trouble when a movie can't even get the Batmobile right. - - - - - - - - - - - - By Stephanie Zacharek printe-mail June 15, 2005 \| Christopher Nolan's "Batman Begins" fills in, with a series of murky pointillist dots, the back story of one of the most soulful and tortured superheroes of all. In "Batman Begins" -- which takes its cues from the original vision of Batman creator Bob Kane, embellishing it heavily -- young Bruce Wayne once fell into a well on his parents' estate and was set upon by a fluttering, flapping cloud of black bats. His dad rescued him, but predictably, batphobia set in. Worse yet, not long after the bat incident, young Master Wayne watched in horror as his parents were killed in a city alleyway. The grown-up Bruce Wayne (Christian Bale) has never come to terms with their death, and after a stint learning Ninja moves in remotest Tibet, he returns to his beloved Gotham City to help restore peace and order to its troubled streets, ostensibly so he can do the same with his mind. Forget that guy who can't remember what happened to him five minutes ago: Nolan wants to make sure we understand that this deeply gloomy Dark Knight is really messed up. As a filmmaker Nolan has made a name for himself as a purveyor of faux-Hitchcockian gloomy cleverness ("Memento," "Insomnia"), and he has meticulously designed "Batman Begins" to be the feel-bad movie of the summer. And yet "Batman Begins," its dim lighting and relentless fixation on childhood trauma aside, doesn't make us feel quite bad enough. In fact, it makes us feel virtually nothing at all, except maybe a shuddering, reluctant nostalgia for Joel Schumacher. Schumacher's two "Batman" pictures may have been wretched, but at least they didn't mistake oppressiveness for emotional depth. "Batman Begins" leaks existential phoniness from the first frame. Young Wayne -- remember, his Batman alter ego isn't even yet a wriggly tadpole in his completely screwed-up mind -- has traveled the world attempting to understand the criminal mind. He has been falsely arrested and thrown into a tastefully sepia-toned Asian hellhole. Suddenly, a mysterious stranger appears in his cell: It's Liam Neeson, with a list of questions about his sex life. Actually, no -- Neeson's character is Henri Ducard, and he's the associate of a mysterious baldy named Ra's Al Ghul (Ken Watanabe). They have a plan for Wayne, luring him into their nefarious scheme by promising that if he goes along with them, he will find the spiritual answers he seeks. ____ ____ Today's Site Pass sponsored by - - - - - - - - - - - - Click here ____ "Batman Begins" Directed by Christopher Nolan Starring Christian Bale, Michael Caine, Morgan Freeman, Katie Holmes At their hands, Wayne learns how to creep along on little cat feet, picking up many other sophisticated combat tips along the way. And eventually, although everyone at home believes he's dead (he's been gone for seven years), he returns to Gotham and begins to take a feigned interest in his father's corporation, simply so he can gain access to the gadgets and cool stuff stored away in the HQ's basement, presided over by cool-cat genius Lucius Fox (Morgan Freeman, who brings the movie some much-needed warmth and charm). With the help of his family's longtime right-hand man, Alfred (deftly played by Michael Caine -- even his physical elegance is suffused with emotion), he sets out to build a Batcave, Batcostumes and assorted useful Batthingies. But none of this makes Bruce Wayne happy, and what's more, he's unable to connect with the woman he cares most deeply about, his childhood friend Rachel (Katie Holmes), now a Gotham D.A. So he takes to the streets, in gear that's apparently as heavy as his heart, searching out evildoers (like Cillian Murphy's Dr. Jonathan Crane, aka the Scarecrow) and paying witness to the devastating spectacle that the impoverished, crime-ridden Gotham has become. He speaks only when necessary, and then in a deep monotone devoid of feeling or expression, and when his work is done, he retreats to Wayne Manor to listen to his Morrissey records. OK, not exactly. But neither Nolan nor, unfortunately, the usually superb Christian Bale seems to recognize that darkness takes on many shades and colors: "Batman Begins" is a dull monotone of heavily theatrical, and yet wholly unmoving, angst. Nolan obviously didn't want his picture to be too cartoony, and that's a good impulse. But "Batman Begins" needs much more energy and kinetic flow -- less dolor and more dolomite. Bale can't seem to find an anchor for the character of Bruce Wayne; at times he's mildly affecting, but he can't locate that elusive hairline at which a character's self-absorption becomes engaging for an audience. His Wayne is so deep inside himself we can barely bring ourselves to care about him. (Bale made me long for Michael Keaton's first appearance, in particular, as Batman -- a performance that seemed breezily neurotic on the surface but actually cut to the heart of existential dread.) There's another problem with "Batman Begins": Batman's stuff has no soul. His mask, with its alert, pointed ears, does manage to give Bale a somber grace from some angles. But Bale (unlike Keaton) has trouble connecting from beneath it -- it wears him instead of the other way around. In a movie whose production design is both massively ambitious and uninspired, the Batmobile is one of the biggest bummers of all: It's like a squat bug covered with clumsy square scales, a dismally unromantic vehicle that looks wholly unsuited for parallel-parking practice, let alone flying through the streets of Gotham. And as hard as Nolan tried to make something other than a typical comic-book movie (although anyone who keeps an eye on comic-book movies realize there's no such thing), the script, by David S. Goyer, works at cross-purposes. As the movie grinds dully toward the finish line, Neeson announces, with drawing-room enunciation, "Now if you'll excuse me, I have a city to destroy." And Tom Wilkinson, who seems to have wandered in from another movie with his cigar-chomping performance as a mob boss, actually says at one point, "Don't burden yourself with the secrets of scary people." In the midst of all this, Gary Oldman gives a finely tuned performance as not-yet-commissioner James Gordon: We see intelligence and honor in his blinking, nearsighted eyes and his twitchy mustache. In a movie that aspires to emotional complexity and comes up empty -- even the action sequences are cluttered and confusingly shot -- he hits the notes right. Playing a character and not a psychological case study, he's one of the few actors here who's unburdened by the secrets of scary people. salon.com
Tom Kenny... by thecomedian	Jun 15th, 2005 08:22:14 PM
Somebody posted his as a joke a few weeks ago. But you know what, Tom Kenny(the voice of Sponge Bob) would actually kick ten different kinds of ass as the Joker. Because he's "unknown" but since he's Sponge Bob he's totally not. Plus if you ever see him watch the Spongebob Marathons as the pirate guy, there's is an actual creepiness to him. If they did the Killing Joke origin of the menschy failed comedian who get's reborn as the hysterical embodiment of grinning, creeping death then Tom Kenny would be perfect for it. They don't need a "name" for the Joker. That's what ruined Nicholson's performance. They need to cast the Joker the same way they casted, Superman and Wolverine. They need someone who can be creepy and funny and only bee seen as the Joker. Not Adam Sandler or Johnny Knoxville in Joker Make Up. I'm a huge Doctor Who fan and Christopher Eccleston is great EXCEPT for when he's mugging all over the place so his Joker would just be more of the same. No thanks.
I SEEK CLARITY by evolvingsensblty	Jun 15th, 2005 08:54:14 PM
...is cumstain irish or british? gay or straight? patton oswalt is going to play the joker?
WOW by arnid9	Jun 15th, 2005 08:59:54 PM
Best film of the year.
What is wrong with some of you people by anointed	Jun 15th, 2005 09:19:45 PM
I am a movie goer, I love movies, so when I come to this site I want to read about what I am interested in: F'in movies! Why is it some of you people degenerate into inane, ignorant babble and namecalling, tearing down the reviewer or the review on a nasty personal level! For fuck sake can't you goddamn people leave all your personal hates and frustrations off this website and concentrate on what's at hand! The fucking movies! Shit! Grow the fuck up! Now, I loved Batman Begins, Ebert was correct when he said this movie got it right, as a fan of the Dark Knight it was all I could hope it could be. There was a foundation for everything in Bruce Waynes life in this movie. A+
One more thing by anointed	Jun 15th, 2005 09:23:03 PM
All I am saying is there is a way to disagree with a review without all of that toxic bullshit!
forgot to type it here....Christopher Eccleston for the Joker... by lynxpro	Jun 15th, 2005 09:28:02 PM
and Monica Bellucci/Angelina Jolie for Talia.
Mr Cumpston sir.... by Brundlefly	Jun 15th, 2005 09:41:58 PM
You are fucking hilarious. God bless you.
Web Foontabs by flossygomez	Jun 15th, 2005 09:52:13 PM
I crinkle and time woof spindle great slate lifting wrinkle and dash! More than one and God slips inside. Frame device? You know the smell of goiters in your smeck. SMECK. SMECK. SMECK.
Bats in the Belfry by RetroActive	Jun 15th, 2005 10:47:08 PM
Loved every second of it! The best moment: When my wife grabbed my arm tightly during Batman's descent through Arkham and said, "This movie kicks ass!" The ultimate compliment. It still won't make me sit through another Kate Hudson matchmaker flic for her sake without squirming...but it might convince me to stifle the obvious yawn next time. :) G'night all. Batman's back!
Cute review Stephanie Zacharek, but... by Big Bad Clone	Jun 15th, 2005 11:07:56 PM
...kiss my ass. It's a damn fine movie and a major improvement over the last one. It's easily one of the better movies I've seen this year. I'd go point by point, but let's just say that the performances are what keeps this movie afloat. Take away the costumes and it'd be a contender for an Oscar.
tom cruise is definitely queer by IHATENIGGERS	Jun 16th, 2005 12:11:59 AM
Married twice without having "real kids" just adopted,worships zenu the evil galatic overlord, overcompensates gayness buy acting overtly hetero with women in public. Case closed guilty as charged
JDanielP Your review by Donnie_Drunko	Jun 16th, 2005 12:24:31 AM
Is Spot on....I feel the same way. I loved the movie yet I hate it too. Its like they finally got the characters right but forgot to amp up the adrenaline rush for the audience. They pretty much failed in all aspects of the action scenes. Ive only seen it once and need to see it again. But on first viewing Im happy a great foundation is set but I walked away not excited about anything I saw but just what maybe coming next.
best scene in Batman Begins by Darth Philbin	Jun 16th, 2005 12:25:49 AM
when Gordon has a beer and cheets on his wife
Just saw it, B by Droogie Alex	Jun 16th, 2005 12:38:46 AM

The Joker by Josher703	Jun 16th, 2005 01:31:03 AM
You know who would make a good joker henchman, Mackenzie Crook who played Gareth on the BBC Office, it fits with the British casting.
Ha ha mind my stitches by NelsonsTodger	Jun 16th, 2005 07:46:07 AM
This site is supposed to be a red-hot purveyor of a-grade movie reviews and yet we have to put up with this type of juvenile language bollocks. This reviewer is obviously harbouring secret homosexual tendencies by hiding behind the semi-laddish word
"Liam Neeson (he was in some black and white Spielberg movie whi by Voice O. Reason	Jun 16th, 2005 10:35:15 AM
Congratulations on being a clueless half-wit.
"Schiavo Autopsy Shows Massive Brain Damage Thursday, June 16, 2 by Voice O. Reason	Jun 16th, 2005 10:38:54 AM
I'm going out on a limb and guessing you cut and pasted this irrelevant nonsense.
Thank you, Goyer and Nolan! by lynxpro	Jun 16th, 2005 11:02:44 AM
All I can say is awesome. Saw it last night. This is what the 1989 film should have been. Loved all the Blade Runner-esque scenes. Each actor portrayed their roles magnificiently...well, maybe not Holmes but there wasn't a lot of material for her in all fairness. Loved the little throwaway line hinting about Ra's Al Ghul's immortality. But what I must ask is why was Ra's name mispronounced? It isn't pronounced RAAAHZ, its pronounced RAAAYSHHHH. Minor nitpick, and could be corrected in a later film, along with bringing his daughter Talia to the screen. Loved how the little boy could be Tim Drake if they wanted to pursue it. For supporting cast, Cain, Olman, and Freeman owned. The rest was pure Bale and Neeson. For what little there was of Cillian Murphy, I liked. I was actually surprised at how much he resembled a young Eric Roberts. Out of four stars, I give it five. I wonder if there was anything cut from the film, because it would be even better at 3 hours. But walking out of the theatre, I was under even more of an impression that after Neeson, they need another serious actor of his calibre to portray the Joker convincingly and right. And thus I am sticking to my guns when I ask/demand that Christopher Eccleston is cast as the Joker in the sequel. Ra's Al Ghul must return too...if not in the second, in the third film. He should be the overall villain, like Emperor Palpatine of the Prequels. And for everyone that dissed Goyer's screenplay for Blade3, you should consider him redeemed. Great stuff. I hope he writes the next ones too. And Chris Nolan, don't bail out on us, no pun intended!
My Joker Pic would be... by kingmob2005	Jun 16th, 2005 11:06:14 AM
I thought if they wanted to keep it dark and psychotic, perhaps Owen Wilson would make a good Joker. He has the grin. I think he can do hyper active crazy and homicidal mastermind. It will be intersting to see what direction they take the Joker if/when he comes out in the next Batman. I enjoyed the take on Batman and the relaunch. I would have liked to see Harvey Dent replace the love interest, but Hollywood needs its starlets. Hopefully we will be spared a Robin emergence in #2. Batman-Alfred-Lucious Fox are a great team.
"I thought if they wanted to keep it dark and psychotic, perhaps by Voice O. Reason	Jun 16th, 2005 11:50:42 AM
Or, even better, they could hire a REAL actor.
NelsonsTodger & Voice O. Reason by DocPazuzu	Jun 16th, 2005 12:11:40 PM
You just don't get it, do you?
Batman Bombs? by adambalm	Jun 16th, 2005 02:16:47 PM
Box office mojo has it at $15,145,000 opening day. I'm not sure how of the model used to project weekend grosses, 30 million for the 2 day, and 75 million for the entire 5 day seems awfully low. Usually I don't even follow how much a movie makes, fanboys are already too obsessed with how much a movie makes, but if this is true, it looks very troubling for the future of comic movies.
Just to put that in perspective... by adambalm	Jun 16th, 2005 02:18:37 PM
Spider-Man 2, as reported by Superherohype, opened at 40 million, almost three times that, for it's opening day.
AICN Totally Missed The Ball On This One... by Darth Busey	Jun 16th, 2005 02:25:10 PM
I watched the entire movie, and not ONCE did Gordon have a beer and cheet on his wife. I demand a written apology from AICN for their so called "scoop", and my $8.50 back from Loews' Cineplex. Thank you and have a nice day.
Confession: I don't get the joke by Bryan	Jun 16th, 2005 03:44:35 PM
I understand that Cumpston is a schtick, etc. But does Patton Oswalt actually like these movies or is he being sarcastic? I suspect he genuinely does like Batman Begins, Sin City etc., but the reviews give no indication of that. They come across as an obvious cliched attack on the people who like those movies: they are idiots with no taste or insight into movies, they only want to see tits and explosions and are overly obsessed with boners and not being seen as gay. I like that he takes a different approach than most other reviewers on the site, but I wish he had some sort of points or insights into the movies instead of just a joke formula listing the fight scenes and one or two good oneliners like the "boner made out of punching" one. I know that he is a "hilarious" parody of talkbackers, but I actually get much bigger laughs from the actual talkbackers. They're funnier because they really mean it.
BEST Mr. Freeze would be... by GopherTrace	Jun 16th, 2005 03:49:09 PM
Christopher Lloyd
"Batman Bombs?" by Thirteen 13	Jun 16th, 2005 06:27:04 PM
Actualy 15 million is normal for big movies opening on a wednesday. Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays are the big moneymaker days. Batman Begins had a production budget of 120 million and it will easily surpass that. This is also getting very good reviews across the board at yahoo movies and rave reviews from viewers. Now if opening day on Wednesday was only like 3 - 5 million then you may be onto something in saying it may bomb. I'm crunching the numbers though and I'm not coming up with bomb. And thats not even factoring in the DVD sales at 19.99 a piece.
$15 Million on a Wednesday isn't bad,,,except in comparison by Monkeybrains	Jun 16th, 2005 07:06:27 PM
Not that it matters anyway. Batman was a kick ass movie. But if it falls below expectations, they'll bring back Schumaker!!!!!!!!!!
$15 million is not bad considering by Krigan	Jun 16th, 2005 08:29:27 PM
That the last movie was complete garbage. I think people are a bit hesitant to rush out and see it. It also did not have the huge buzz you would associate with a big 1st day. I bet this film follows the Matrix box office model. First film does decent box office $180-$220 mill or more, Then the dvd's sell like hot cakes. The 2nd movie opens in the $100 million range for the weekend & does not peter out like the matrix films did if it is the quality of this one.
15 mil by adambalm	Jun 16th, 2005 09:13:10 PM
Ahh, I see. Wasn't sure how large the weekday/weekend difference is in the summer. If this were fall/winter and school was in session I wouldn't have wondered. Thanks fellas. Yeah, apparently on the CHUD box office thread, they're also saying that it's pretty respectable. We'll see how the full weekend goes, but so far it looks like one less thing to worry about.
Hey powermetal, stop stealing my posts. by FluffyUnbound	Jun 16th, 2005 10:00:02 PM
I posted that a long time ago.
by blackthought	Jun 16th, 2005 10:36:42 PM

loved it by blackthought	Jun 16th, 2005 10:37:19 PM
and well loved it.
Batty Bale by immortalsix	Jun 17th, 2005 12:38:16 AM
Just returned from the local multiplex where I suspected to catch the latest campy comic book movie a la Spiderman 2 or what I suspect Fan 4 will be. What I got was a gritty and dark representation of the Dark Knight. If you have the possibility of seeing this in an IMAX then by all means don't think twice about it - just take the plunge - you won't be disappointed. This is no "Batman & Robin" - gone are the flashy big name Hollywood actors that play themselves in an alleged Batman movie. Christian Bale and crew actually ACT and no one over shadows the other which I feel is a key point that makes this film work. The only acting crime is Katie Holmes. She serves her role fairly well but that damn "Oh Dawson" smirk drove me nuts. Chris Nolan deserves to be retained by WB for at least two more flicks - he nailed the visuals. DC Comics has to be breathing a HUGE sigh of relief. Superman Returns is on the slate for next year while Marvel is dicking around with X-Men. And can Spiderman 3 really meet fan expectations? Batman Begins is a true representation of a perfect comic book movie. And just when you think it is perfect they plant a perfect seed for a sequel.
Law for the Joker by dirkcalloway	Jun 17th, 2005 01:19:00 AM
The more I think about the more I'm starting to think Jude Law would be perfect. Just saw a few pics of this guy grinning like a fool and boy if it isn't the perfect smile for the part. Plus he's a pretty good actor, he's probably around the same age as Bale which is good, and he would fit into that big name category they apparently want. Yes Crispin Glover looks the part....but can he pull it off. I think Law could. At this point he's the best I've seen mentioned.
i think scarecrow returns as well by blackthought	Jun 18th, 2005 07:36:45 PM

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