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Geek Reviews from Japan Premiere & Brazil Press Screening of BATMAN BEGINS - hold on to your drawers, this is the one!!

Who broke AICN? by Dannychico	Jun 2nd, 2005 04:09:42 PM

This is a strange Batman review. by jimmy_009	Jun 2nd, 2005 04:13:19 PM
I'm suprised at some of the choices Nolan has made with this Batman movie. Flock of seagulls? American Idol? This is not your daddy's Batman.
I can't wait now by jabolino	Jun 2nd, 2005 04:18:27 PM
Great review. I was hoping Christina Aguilera would get a good part
Flock of Seagulls? This should REALLY.... by DocPazuzu	Jun 2nd, 2005 04:18:56 PM
...piss moviemack off.
It's nice to see Flock of Seagulls taking over for Prince! by Hail	Jun 2nd, 2005 04:24:24 PM

Moviemack and his Batman Begins bashing crew are gonna look stup by Jon_Snow	Jun 2nd, 2005 04:35:36 PM

FIRST!!!! by vicious_bastard	Jun 2nd, 2005 04:44:46 PM

Monoraaaaaail! by Slugworth	Jun 2nd, 2005 04:51:25 PM
Q: Is there a chance the track could bend? A: Not on your life, my Hindu friend.
Sounds cool? by jimmy_009	Jun 2nd, 2005 04:51:48 PM
There sure are a lot of question marks in those reviews? Anyways, sounds like this will be the geek movie of the summer?
"(Liam Neeson) representing Ra's Al-Ghul's..." by SalvatoreGravano	Jun 2nd, 2005 04:52:19 PM
Do you mean "Liam Neeson playing Ra's Al-Ghul"? "There was a fantastic sequel set-up for the Joker's entry into the franchise". Do you mean the idiotic card scene?
I'm Ron Burgandy? by jimmy_009	Jun 2nd, 2005 04:52:51 PM
Sorry I just had to put that in?
We have astounding explosions, ninjas, preechy moralising.... by Slugworth	Jun 2nd, 2005 05:01:19 PM
That part got me so pumped up I punched my Mom in the face.
For the first time in movie history, we have a Batman movie and by Manos	Jun 2nd, 2005 05:02:21 PM
With two established stars hopefully making the roles their own, we could have an incredible Batman/Superman blockbuster team up. It'll probably never happen, but we can hope.
Marvel Could Learn from This by Mark Twain	Jun 2nd, 2005 05:03:11 PM
The reason the Batman films had to be relaunched is that they suffered the typical pitfalls of franchise films, every sequel had to be bigger, louder and introduce a new character. For some reason the third film is the one that makes or breaks the franchise in most cases. It is generally the third where the series begins to lapse into self parody (Superman III, Batman Forever, Lethal Weapon III, ROTJ) and forgets the elements that made the earlier films popular. The Matrix didn't even wait for the 3rd film before it started winking at itself. Marvel seems to be moving into that direction with the first Fantastic Four film, judging by the trailers. Blade fell apart quickly, X2 showed some disturbing signs, so far Spiderman seems to be immune. If No;an does indeed stay for three films, perhaps a foundation will be laid in place for a Bond style franchise rather than having to re-invent the wheel each time. With a more intimate starting place, this series will have time to build slowly. It sounds like we're off to a great start. Pay attention Marvel, your 3rd films in 2 series are coming up and I wanna see 10.
Uh oh, moviemack... by Dark Knight Lite	Jun 2nd, 2005 05:14:31 PM
What if these guys are right, and the film is great?
Sounds GREAT! I cant wait til the sequel with Ashton Kutcher as by SydBarretsMyDad	Jun 2nd, 2005 05:18:52 PM
Actually, this movie looks good. Im ready. Lets go.
Get ready.... by D	Jun 2nd, 2005 05:22:36 PM
for 328 Batman reviews. And where the hell is Chicken George or whatever that guy's name was?
re: "predictor of mediocrity to come" by Trik	Jun 2nd, 2005 05:26:57 PM
I dub thee Mr. Mediocre Disclaimer: not to be taken internaly
Childe Roland, I don't care if you like SW or not by I Dunno	Jun 2nd, 2005 05:28:59 PM
I'm just answering the easily answerable percieved errors or inconsistencies you think you have. If you simply think it sucks then that's subjective, I can't argue with that.
Can't Wait! by Saluki	Jun 2nd, 2005 05:30:18 PM
No, really... I Can't Wait... I have four hours to live. =( GO BATS!
re: "predictor of mediocrity to come" by Trik	Jun 2nd, 2005 05:31:03 PM
I dub thee Mr. Mediocre Disclaimer: not to be taken internaly
Can't Wait! by Saluki	Jun 2nd, 2005 05:31:40 PM
No, really... I Can't Wait... I have four hours to live. =( GO BATS!
superior remakes by Jack the Lad	Jun 2nd, 2005 05:40:15 PM
Carpenter's THE THING was better than the original. So was Scorsese's version of CAPE FEAR, IMO. THE MALTESE FALCON was actually the THIRD film adaptation of Hammett's novel. Having said that, I'm still not thrilled with THE WICKER MAN being remade, but done smart and done right, it COULD work. Given LaBute's less than charitable view of human nature, I think he can be trusted not to compromise the story too much.
You guys seem to have forgotten that "Sisterhood of the Travelin by Mr. Waturi	Jun 2nd, 2005 05:43:02 PM

I was at the comic shop today, buying comics, looking at the lam by kintar0	Jun 2nd, 2005 05:44:27 PM
when I started looking around at all the covers to various Batman titles. In comparison, the Batman Begins costume is completely and embarrassingly awful. Nolan's "realistic approach," huh? I don't know, maybe it's just me, but I like Batman because he's not realistic. Maybe that's why I like superheroes and comic books, because they aren't concerned with realism. And being so familiar with all the different incarnations of Batman, from mood to suit color/material to Batmobile, the visual interpretation of Batman, his gadgets and the Batmobile in Batman Begins sticks out like a sore fucking thumb. What the fuck, the ears are from China? I looked at the cover to Superman/Batman #20 by Ed McGuinness and you know what? If Batman in Batman Begins looked like that rather than how he looks in the film, I'd probably be able to overlook a lot of the fucking bullshit that's going to be in the movie. As a diehard Batman fan, one who's familiar with all the different versions in the comics, having read the leaked script and having seen all the trailers, pictures and tv spots, this Batman film just looks crap.
I was at the comic shop today, buying comics, looking at the lam by kintar0	Jun 2nd, 2005 05:46:06 PM
when I started looking around at all the covers to various Batman titles. In comparison, the Batman Begins costume is completely and embarrassingly awful. Nolan's "realistic approach," huh? I don't know, maybe it's just me, but I like Batman because he's not realistic. Maybe that's why I like superheroes and comic books, because they aren't concerned with realism. And being so familiar with all the different incarnations of Batman, from mood to suit color/material to Batmobile, the visual interpretation of Batman, his gadgets and the Batmobile in Batman Begins sticks out like a sore fucking thumb. What the fuck, the ears are from China? I looked at the cover to Superman/Batman #20 by Ed McGuinness and you know what? If Batman in Batman Begins looked like that rather than how he looks in the film, I'd probably be able to overlook a lot of the fucking bullshit that's going to be in the movie. As a diehard Batman fan, one who's familiar with all the different versions in the comics, having read the leaked script and having seen all the trailers, pictures and tv spots, this Batman film just looks crap.
I was at the comic shop today, buying comics, looking at the lam by kintar0	Jun 2nd, 2005 05:47:17 PM
when I started looking around at all the covers to various Batman titles. In comparison, the Batman Begins costume is completely and embarrassingly awful. Nolan's "realistic approach," huh? I don't know, maybe it's just me, but I like Batman because he's not realistic. Maybe that's why I like superheroes and comic books, because they aren't concerned with realism. And being so familiar with all the different incarnations of Batman, from mood to suit color/material to Batmobile, the visual interpretation of Batman, his gadgets and the Batmobile in Batman Begins sticks out like a sore fucking thumb. What the fuck, the ears are from China? I looked at the cover to Superman/Batman #20 by Ed McGuinness and you know what? If Batman in Batman Begins looked like that rather than how he looks in the film, I'd probably be able to overlook a lot of the fucking bullshit that's going to be in the movie. As a diehard Batman fan, one who's familiar with all the different versions in the comics, having read the leaked script and having seen all the trailers, pictures and tv spots, this Batman film just looks crap.
But Mr. Miracle, what if, by some act of god, Batman Begins is a by Jon_Snow	Jun 2nd, 2005 05:56:35 PM

I love that 8 posters made the same joke by Dannychico	Jun 2nd, 2005 05:58:42 PM
At the top of this TB. Bravo, chaps.
Attaboy, moviemack... by Jon_Snow	Jun 2nd, 2005 06:01:41 PM

Hallenbeck by capt jack aubrey	Jun 2nd, 2005 06:05:10 PM
ah, I see... "working for Lucasfilm" vs. "arrested for pirating"... clearly I got my memory wires WAY crossed on that one...
i still can't forgive them by DAS JANKE	Jun 2nd, 2005 06:05:53 PM
for leaving out the nipples.
Full details on the title by Darth Maester	Jun 2nd, 2005 06:08:47 PM
From Pauline Kael's 1968 essay/review collection "Kiss Kiss Bang Bang": "A Note on the Title: The words 'Kiss Kiss Bang Bang,' which I saw on an Italian movie poster, are perhaps the briefest statement imaginable of the basic appeal of movies. This appeal is what attracts us, and ultimately what makes us despair when we begin to understand how seldom movies are more than this."
Who's gonna die... by Ribs	Jun 2nd, 2005 06:10:35 PM
... They pretty much gotta get rid of some characters. Every new movie that comes out, more people want new X-men introduced. There's just not enough screen time or budget to go around. I say get rid of Storm. Apparently Halle's been a pain in the producers' asses since pre-production on X2. Toss her out, that'll teach her. Death No. 2: Jean Grey. She dies, she comes back, she dies, she comes back. Do what the comics never could and kill her off for good. Death No. 3: probably someone more minor like Pyro or Collossus. If not that, then either Prof x or Magneto.
Hoorah! This movie is great, we were wrong! by Anla'shok	Jun 2nd, 2005 06:11:39 PM
Obviously this film is "truly a summer spectacle rivaling Star Wars" and "This is everything we could ever hope for and maybe even more." personally I was surprised to hear that "Katie Holmes is also pretty good. She does what she can with the role and makes it truly sympathetic. We cheer for them to hook up." I thought the suit was terrible but apparently "Batmans COSTUME is also perfect. I hated it from pics, but in the movie it works just fine. We always see him in shadows." hope they didn't spend too much cash on it if no one actually see's it. So rest easy, all is well, even the general public is in good hands, I heard that "The audience is absorbed by his fears and nightmares, ultimately sympathising with the character, and further enhancing the humanity of the tale." Man, that sounds great! As for realism, while I've never actually accepted the concept of a man dressed as a bat being the only salvation for an honest to goodness city as "realistic". It would appear that Nolan and Goyer have made this scenario, ahem...plausible.
Space is right...get Mark Pellington if they can't get Singe by Johnny Smith	Jun 2nd, 2005 06:14:29 PM
Pellington rocks my socks. He's good with characters, too.
I love that 8 posters made the same joke by Dannychico	Jun 2nd, 2005 06:17:45 PM
at the top of this TB. Bravo, chaps!
Thomas Pynchon Writes, David Lynch Directs... by ZombieSolutions	Jun 2nd, 2005 06:17:50 PM
now that would be, as Kelly LeBrock says in the epic masterpiece Weird Science, "A mind scramblah."
Batman rules by docfalken	Jun 2nd, 2005 06:19:23 PM

Hey, I can admit when I'm wrong. Obviously this film is... by Anla'shok	Jun 2nd, 2005 06:21:47 PM
"truly a summer spectacle rivaling Star Wars" and "This is everything we could ever hope for and maybe even more." personally I was surprised to hear that "Katie Holmes is also pretty good. She does what she can with the role and makes it truly sympathetic. We cheer for them to hook up." I thought the suit was terrible, but apparently "Batmans COSTUME is also perfect. I hated it from pics, but in the movie it works just fine. We always see him in shadows." hope they didn't spend too much cash on it if no one actually see's it. So rest easy, all is well, even the general public is in good hands, I heard that "The audience is absorbed by his fears and nightmares, ultimately sympathising with the character, and further enhancing the humanity of the tale." Man, that sounds great! As for realism, while I've never actually accepted the concept of a man dressed as a bat being the only salvation for an honest to goodness city as "realistic". It would appear that Nolan and Goyer have made this scenario, ahem...plausible.
Thank Fuck for that by John-Locke	Jun 2nd, 2005 06:23:01 PM
I've been a tad unsure about this because of Goyers involvement but I'm not worried any more after reading those. They don't smell like plants to me.
Jon_Snow, what, are you new or something? by kintar0	Jun 2nd, 2005 06:29:01 PM
Either that or you haven't been paying attention. Yeah, sure, of fucking course I'm "man" enough to admit Batman Begins is "great," only if it is indeed "great." I've said that often, just like moviemack, in all the other Batman Begins. And you don't see us demanding that you admit you could be wrong about how "great" it will supposedly be. I've never pretended that my opinion on Batman Begins is based on anything besides the leaked script and all the info we've received via the internet. So far, it looks sucky.
Alfonso Cuaron by Prior Walter	Jun 2nd, 2005 06:30:01 PM
he should direct.
How long until people start suggesting actors for The Joker by John-Locke	Jun 2nd, 2005 06:31:11 PM
You know it to be true.
How long until people start suggesting actors for The Joker by John-Locke	Jun 2nd, 2005 06:32:05 PM
You know it to be true.
How long until people start suggesting actors for The Joker by John-Locke	Jun 2nd, 2005 06:32:58 PM
You know it to be true
This is NOT a plant by the_pope	Jun 2nd, 2005 06:34:06 PM
Guys, this is not a plant. I am the talkbacker from Brazil. Just watched the movie today. It is indeed awesome. You WILL enjoy it. Some will have quarrels, yes... but is is undeniably enjoyable.
BTW it seems this Talkback is a bit fucked by John-Locke	Jun 2nd, 2005 06:34:24 PM
you have to post on the same page as the reviews.
Fixed now. by docfalken	Jun 2nd, 2005 06:35:08 PM
I'll move all of the "lost" posts to their proper homes.
Second attempt! excuse that earlier double post. by Anla'shok	Jun 2nd, 2005 06:37:21 PM

Philly Wizard World 2005 by MonkeyGod464	Jun 2nd, 2005 06:42:09 PM
Apparently some of us geeks in Philly get the chance to attend a screening of this on Saturday based on our attendance to a DC comics panel discussion. Not too shabby.
Message to Warner Suits - not even a hint of little, green PIXY by Rhett Butler	Jun 2nd, 2005 06:44:48 PM
And we'll keep the faith! Can't wait for this movie!
Watching Movies with Harry.... by Bobo_Vision	Jun 2nd, 2005 06:46:33 PM
I imagine that watching movies with Harry is a very sticky, and excruciating, experience. During the first half of the movie you would be showered with the goo and remains of movie theatre snacks from his mouth, followed by the jism or feces spewing from his pants during the second half, as most of his reviews seem to involve some type of orgasm, or defecation. Don't worry, Bobo_Vision aint blurry.
CAN'T FUCKING WAIT! by CurryIce	Jun 2nd, 2005 06:52:23 PM

Neeson by brinkeguthrie	Jun 2nd, 2005 07:02:19 PM
So in the trailers, Neeson looks like a good guy, helping Bale out. In reality hes a BAD guy? Is this right?
In reality he's just an Irish born actor by Gheorghe Zamfir	Jun 2nd, 2005 07:07:05 PM
And in the movie, yes, he is a bad guy.
Such a huge fan. by Christopher3	Jun 2nd, 2005 07:33:49 PM
Gravitas! Neeson being the bad guy is the twist - hence the spoiler alert. Though anyone who got a look at the leaked Goyer script would know.
Ah sorry if I spoiled that by Gheorghe Zamfir	Jun 2nd, 2005 07:35:39 PM
Didn't think it was much of a spoiler anymore since Neeson was going around in interviews talking playing a villain.
Batman Begins will easily make more money than Fantastic Four by Thirteen 13	Jun 2nd, 2005 07:47:05 PM
Tim Burtons dark vision of Batman was very well made and very successful. Batman didn't flop until Joel Schumacher took over and turned it into an over colored teenage masturbation fantasy. From the looks of Fantastic Four and its trailer, Joel Schumacher may as well have made it.
I'll go... by the_pissboy1	Jun 2nd, 2005 07:55:32 PM
The reviews have sucked - not in regard to the quality of the film but rather the qualit of the reviews - yet I will go onward. Bale and Nolan is all I needed to get me there. If it sucks I can shrug and go home. Hell, I've sat through Longest Yard and Kicking and Screaming (for young relatives who wanted to see it), so can it be as awful as those? Doubtful.
YES!! by whatyoufear	Jun 2nd, 2005 07:55:45 PM
fantastic foreskin will be snipped by the bat-scissors
i wonder what the set-up will be for the joker like first review by McLuvin	Jun 2nd, 2005 08:09:08 PM
any ideas?
Um, regarding the Neeson spoiler by Bobo_Vision	Jun 2nd, 2005 08:10:53 PM
I didn't read the review, just the talkback. So, is the Neeson twist a pivotal twist in the movie, like an M.Night twist where the movie hinges on the twist, or is it just an unexpected plot point which won't ruin the movie otherwise.
I'll only pass judgement after I've seen it, unlike a lo by performingmonkey	Jun 2nd, 2005 08:43:21 PM
While I'm glad these reviews don't point out anything that's majorly wrong with Batman Begins, I'm still skeptical about it. Everything seems just too good to be true, especially the cast (best ensemble of the year?). I want to love this movie but am trying my best to be cautious because I know I could be disappointed after all the build-up, and I'm fucking sick of movies doing that to me. I hope the positives in the reviews are real and not just fabricated in a plant-like way. When reviews start giving excuses about the movie (like about how the suit looks shit in stills but works in the movie) there's a possibility of plant. And not 'plant' as in Poison Ivy from Batman & Robin played by Uma Therman.
A Bat out of hell.. by Figurefreaks	Jun 2nd, 2005 08:52:12 PM
I saw the film Tuesday here in Norway, and I was blown away. This is the bat movie I have been waiting for since the Tim Burtons films witch I love. This is the first real adult bat film ever. Don
Burton's First Batman is WAY overrated by odysseus	Jun 2nd, 2005 09:09:19 PM
The whole thing just felt dead. As a city, Gotham wasn't alive -- it felt like the soundstage it was, populated with too few extras for its scale. Also, Michael Keaton was far from convincing as the Dark Knight. Nicholson's Joker was half-baked, too. Batman Returns was the best one yet, and for all its flaws is actually a fairly decent film.
Want to see CRISPIN GLOVER as The Joker? by RIVERO	Jun 2nd, 2005 09:37:52 PM
Then sign the Petition!: http://www.petitiononline.com/ qp2d1234/petition.html
Can't Wait for this by LeckoManiac	Jun 2nd, 2005 09:46:34 PM
I got my tickets for the midnight showing at the Navy Pier IMAX...I am so jazzed for this!
Shut the fuck up with the Crispin Glover shit! Christ! by xXMr_BoJaNgLeSXx	Jun 2nd, 2005 09:51:43 PM

Yeah, you're probably right about Burton's first take- by Stan the Bat	Jun 2nd, 2005 09:56:31 PM
-Keaton was unconvincing, and Nicholson was ridiculous- BUT the movie had a tremendous amount of visual flair. Seems like a superficial concern, but in fact it's a major point in a comic book movie. The main thing that worries me about this latest one is that it's not visually exciting or distinctive- at least that's how the trailer strikes me. Maybe it's not a dealbreaker- the whole thing may work anyway- but it's... kind of bland-looking.
"Marvel-rivaling DC Comics logo" by 3 Bag Enema	Jun 2nd, 2005 09:56:45 PM
Marvel-ripping-off DC Comics logo, more like. It's so similar it's sad to look at. It's like when you see retards immitating adult behavior without understanding the reasoning behind it.
I'm surprised no hardcore purists yet have shown up to compl by Thirteen 13	Jun 2nd, 2005 10:02:41 PM
But just in case they decide to show up and complain about the batman costume, I would like for them to keep this in mind. There is a modern day invention we have now. They are called guns. They shoot supersonic projectiles that can rip through one millimeter of spandex and go on to punch clean through a human torso. Even the most agile Ninja can only dodge a hail of bullets for so long. Now it only makes sense to do what Tim Burton did and modernize the costume a little bit, because, Bruce Wayne would probably stop and think " You know. I'm good. I'm damn good. But I think it would make sense if I made a batman outfit that allows great flexibility and can also deflect supersonic projectiles being shot at me." So thus, the modern Batman costume was born. And it is a cool costume no matter what you spandex loving purists think.
Batman looks about as agile as the Thing. by adambalm	Jun 2nd, 2005 10:19:25 PM
As far as the rubber goes, I don't care about the body armor. That was fine. But there's no reason they couldn't have some form fitting knit material over it, have it black, have it look like ashes, whatever turns you on. I just would've liked to have seen them try, because this looks live evolution rather than revolution, and it undercuts their intention of getting across to the audience that this is a reboot.
by poirotyomad	Jun 2nd, 2005 10:21:54 PM
Does he look as agile as the Thing in this footage? http://abclocal.go.com/images/ wls/video/0807bman.rm
Batman-Windows Media by brinkeguthrie	Jun 2nd, 2005 10:23:08 PM
check the BMB site for the windows media player skin= coolest one i have ever seen.
Although... by adambalm	Jun 2nd, 2005 10:24:27 PM
I can guarantee you that there are actually people on this board right now, who would blow their wad at the sight of this in the movie: http://i.somethingawful.com/in serts/articlepics/ photoshop/05-06-05-superman/ei ghtcell.jpg (note, take the space out of the url and paste it. I'm not going to be the one to fuck up the talkback formatting)
Batman Begins suit footage by poirotyomad	Jun 2nd, 2005 10:28:51 PM

Batman Begins suit footage by poirotyomad	Jun 2nd, 2005 10:29:21 PM
Sorry about double posting, but here's the avi version of the footage I posted above. http://s20.yousendit.com/d.asp x?id=1OPQJQ6TZ3F233MEBSRA0I1DD 2 The suit is more flexible than you think.
Liam Neeson = Ra's Al Ghul by ophelia-fell	Jun 2nd, 2005 11:13:56 PM
Liam Neeson is not playing the Ra's Al Ghul, you twat. He's playing Henri Ducard. Ken Watanabe is the Ra's Al Ghul.
ophelia by zer0cool2k2	Jun 2nd, 2005 11:25:28 PM
Watch what you say.
batman begis?i hope so or else.......... by aldrin_amt	Jun 2nd, 2005 11:38:46 PM
read the reviews and some talk back.I hope the movie lives up to expectations.anyway,some of you losers out there defy any reason for existence other than take up space and air.To bitch about the material used for Batman costume!people ! u have too much fucking free time on your hands!Alas some things need to be addressed though like the exceess fag factor of superman,really supes has always rated high on the fag-o-meter and the the new look /movie gonna lay to rest any doubt of that.
batman begis?i hope so or else.......... by aldrin_amt	Jun 2nd, 2005 11:38:48 PM
read the reviews and some talk back.I hope the movie lives up to expectations.anyway,some of you losers out there defy any reason for existence other than take up space and air.To bitch about the material used for Batman costume!people ! u have too much fucking free time on your hands!Alas some things need to be addressed though like the exceess fag factor of superman,really supes has always rated high on the fag-o-meter and the the new look /movie gonna lay to rest any doubt of that.
boy ophelia fell, by stly92	Jun 2nd, 2005 11:44:19 PM
you are sure gonna look stupid when the movie comes out.
THIS movie begins the movie season...NOT Episode "Eh". by DOGSOUP	Jun 3rd, 2005 01:15:07 AM
Opening night at the IMAX,Baby. Look for me front and center.
Man, you people! by gg	Jun 3rd, 2005 02:27:28 AM
As long as the batsuit isn
I could never, ever trust early reviews, but by scrumdiddly	Jun 3rd, 2005 03:40:11 AM
I'm hopeful. After more than a year of utter tripe it's about time we got an OK movie again.
Rivero by DocPazuzu	Jun 3rd, 2005 03:49:36 AM
Seriously, dude, when even talkbackers tell you to get a life you've got to know you have problems. Your incessant petition-flogging has got to be one of the saddest fanboy activities I've ever seen online. May favorite of yours has to be the petition to remove Darth Vader's "Noooo!" in ROTS. I'm pretty sure you don't drink or use drugs so it's got to be all those sugary breakfast cereals. Whatever toxic chemical infusion it is you indulge in, you do need to cut down on it.
Batman rocks by aldrin_amt	Jun 3rd, 2005 04:37:20 AM
Rest easy talkbackers,saw Batman begins last night and it is quite well made.good story with good acting from all and good pacing.New take on the bat from a fresh angle and hell,it worked for me.Will definitely appeal to those who loved Frank Miller's YEAR ONE.As for ROTS;SW3.Definitely the best of the prequels,just wish dumbass money greedy lucasH! hadn't wasted so much time and material on SW1:TPM and concentrated more effort expanding the characters and storyline in ROTS.
Catwoman - shameless plug for fanfilm by film-guy-uk	Jun 3rd, 2005 05:08:43 AM
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MOVIEMAC by HarryBlackPotter	Jun 3rd, 2005 07:03:54 AM
I think we should petition WB to hand the Batman franchise over to this dip shit. He's got a degree in Batman from Gotham University, and has a Batman tattoo on his ass (Mr_Miracle told me!), so that makes him the perfect choice to helm the next Batman movie. F**K it, if a former hairdresser and florist can have a crack at it, why not a whinny onanist like MovieMac?
Petition to get Rivero laid by Gheorghe Zamfir	Jun 3rd, 2005 07:39:07 AM
No link, but its coming up right after I start my petition to get people to give a fuck about petitions.
FF is the butt of fanboy jokes... better than BB? I think not... by Jon_Snow	Jun 3rd, 2005 08:07:56 AM

"Sounds like an 80's action hero movie that just happens to by CurryIce	Jun 3rd, 2005 08:29:10 AM

Spandex Purists? by Dokkalvar	Jun 3rd, 2005 09:02:56 AM
Why a form-fitting rubber suit? Because Spandex...looks...stupid. We all know it. Unfortunatly there are some of you who still have a hang up about this. You're the same group that got into a twist over The Hulk potentially not being green or wearing purple stretchy pants and just look how ridiculous that all turned out. Why should I care really? maybe it's because I think YOU people getting YOUR way makes for disasterous choices. I can only pray to the great adaptation gods that the movie industry feelers don't land anywhere near your terrible terrible words of advice because trust me, film executives are confused enough..
Ra's by damned dirty ape	Jun 3rd, 2005 09:35:42 AM
Let's get this straight people. Neeson IS Ra's al Ghul playing Henry Ducard. The Japanese bloke is just a cover
I'm not even a Bats fan, i want to see this moive, while my by The Founder	Jun 3rd, 2005 09:40:06 AM
Wb is getting ready to pull the stops out and reclaim their thrown, while Marvel is heading to the tar pits of darkness, with one flaming spark that is still floating at the top known as spiderman.
"Reassunce?" Holy Made Up Stupid Word, Batman! by hipcheck13	Jun 3rd, 2005 10:12:07 AM
I don't understand why these guys go out of their way to bash Spiderman. Both Spidey movies put character ahead of the hero AND the villain, both were witty and both pushed the special effects envelope. Bats may be a great movie, but quit bashing the great ones around it.
I think it's highly larious... by Childe Roland	Jun 3rd, 2005 10:24:54 AM
...that both I Dunno and moviemack felt the need to "respond" to me in this talkback, where I hadn't posted yet, while referring to posts in other talkbacks (neither of which were Batman talkbacks, I might add). I must really get to these guys. Not enough to make them engage in intelligent debate and certainly not enough to teach them anything (did you look up "mutant" yet, Dunno?), mind you, but it's amusing to know I haunt them so without trying. As for ALL of the reviews I've read of this film so far, they have boosted my optimisim level from cautious to full on looking forward. Again, I can't say, as these reviewers have, that the film is great. But I sure hope they're right. If for no other reason than 'mack's insane rants will become that much more entertaining.
Consider me hyped by Johnno	Jun 3rd, 2005 10:37:39 AM
Really wanna see this one!
"There were certain moments that reminded me of the first Batman by CuervoJones	Jun 3rd, 2005 10:44:23 AM
nnnnnnnNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooo!!!
Better put some water on those PLANTS! by RichardHeade	Jun 3rd, 2005 12:02:17 PM
That first posting is supposed to be from a Japanese guy studying film in the states? The posting reads far too cleanly for a foreigner. Before anyone jumps on me saying that's racist, think about it: Why would you go to the lengths of purposefully pointing out the fact you're not from this country in the first paragraph? Then go on and use perfectly phrased English and colloquialisms familiar to us? These Planty McPlansters need to come up with better gardening skills. The film probably will rock, but don't insult us.
"The posting reads far too cleanly for a foreigner" by SalvatoreGravano	Jun 3rd, 2005 12:25:39 PM
Yes, that is absolutely correct. He should be writing of "L'as-ar-Ghur" and "flied lice" - how dare one of them darn dirty ferriners use yer decent Anglish, y'all! In retrospect, he is probably sorry - oh, sorry: he's "solly" - that he did not pretend to be a gin-u-wine born USAmerican (as opposed to Canadians and Mexicans, who, too, are Americans). Then he could have emulated the vast applied linguistic skills of your typical US plankteen, writing, say: "wow i liek seen the nu batmn it wuz totally ql omg if u dont c it u r teh sux omg i liek americn idle n jackass but batmen was ev n better liek omg k im out yo peace". Perhaps it should be the site's rule: if your mother's tongue is other than English, if you were not born in the USA or any Anglo-Saxon country, if you do not reside in one - you must not use proper English here. Though all three points apply to me, I would refuse to obey this rule, by the way.
FUCK YOU TNT686 by the_pope	Jun 3rd, 2005 12:52:48 PM
Go get a life you fucking loser. Get a girlfriend, stop masturbating to your fucking mother. If you are on this site, you should be here to discuss movies, not your morbid wet dreams. "Tears on the eyes" is merely an expression to emphasise this is a movie people have talked, complained, and all the struggles were worth while. Of course it is not literate you stupid fucking asshole typical ignorant white trash. Why dont you line up your ugly family and shoot them? Your mother should be the first one to die for raising such an aberation. You fucking cunt, you ferry. Now go back to your closet and shove that shotgun up your ass once again.
I'm watching Fight Club right now and I'm starting to th by xXMr_BoJaNgLeSXx	Jun 3rd, 2005 01:11:07 PM
No, I have no petition to sign but I am honestly wondering what people have to say about that. Green hair, pale and has a deranged smile like tight wiring's streeching his mouth open. Ed Norton in that kind of make-up? Sounds like an awesome Joker to me.
Jesus Marimba... by Kid Z	Jun 3rd, 2005 02:00:03 PM
... is someone on the rag today or what?
"The same people who think this batman looks good are the ones w by CurryIce	Jun 3rd, 2005 02:00:33 PM
Do you actually believe what you're writing there? I hope not.
It would appear... by DocPazuzu	Jun 3rd, 2005 02:05:12 PM
...that ForeverTJ is back in yet another guise. Same pathetic shtick, though. I take back everything I said about Rivero -- he's no longer the saddest talkbacker in history.
batman begins by johnny f	Jun 3rd, 2005 02:24:32 PM
judging from the sound of it it looks like batman has gotten his balls back.this is gonna rock.
TNT868, you are everything that is wrong with the internet in ge by I Dunno	Jun 3rd, 2005 02:52:02 PM
You'll grow up one day and understand that and feel like a total asshole.
TNT868 by Praetor	Jun 3rd, 2005 04:10:47 PM
I don't know, you'd better stop wasting time online and get back to handing out towels. Sounds like you've a lot of child maintenance to pay.
The only person I see getting worked up is you, TNT868 by I Dunno	Jun 3rd, 2005 04:29:39 PM
First of all, Mario Savio, this is a privatly owned message board so I don't think the freedom of speech thing applies but apparently no one's denying your right to be an asshole on here. But some of us still think this Talk Back IS about discussing movies, imagine that. So whoever it is in your real life that you're lashing out against by cursing out strangers behind the safety of your keyboard, make peace with them or go to an AOL chatroom to vent and let the adults talk about movies. Or don't. You just look like a jackass and I thought I'd try to help you out. Flame away.
TN868 by nicegoogly	Jun 3rd, 2005 04:39:18 PM
"Any man who has any kind of game would agree with everything I'm saying. If you've got game, you want to fuck as many chicks as possible, and not get tied down." You obviously know shit about women or having sex. Keep trying though, eventually you'll get some shit to stick, bro. You are just a rude cocksucker, aren't 'ya?
The Movie by nicegoogly	Jun 3rd, 2005 04:47:01 PM
I am a true batfan, but that does not make my opinion better than anyone else's. There are things they have changed that I don't like, little things, but overall, this movie seems way better than past attempts. My pet peeve is that they changed the Mark of Zorro to the opera, but I heard it works for the movie. How many Spidey fans went apeshit with the "organic webbing". But I found that it made it more believable than some high school kid inventing it in his bedroom. I like the Burton Batman, but it was not great and not what it should have been. It shold be praised since it helped usher in a new wave of comic book movies and helped Hollywood take them seriously. Until Spiderman, IMO, many of missed the mark.
"Speach" is never free... by Childe Roland	Jun 3rd, 2005 04:57:48 PM
...TNT. There are always consequences or costs. Even if they aren't arbitrarily dictated by some governing body or disciplinary authority. It's the old cause/effect principle. You type stupid shit and, consequently, you are perceived as a stupid shit. The cost is any semblance of credibility you might have had if you'd chosen to express anything other than an idiotic sentiment. Any man who refers to the complicated social interrelations and deceptively simple mating habits of men and women (or men and men or women and women or TNT868 and any number of farm animals) as "game" really shouldn't even attempt to impregnate anyone, as the idea of the responsibility that accompanies fatherhood is likely more than your brainpan can process (here's a hint, dumbass, the money is the easy part). Fortunately for the species, Darwin was right. Losers like you usually aren't appealing enough to the opposite sex to be given the opportunity to pass your flawed genetic material to the next generation. Thus, we all win.
Ok, the troll's gotten enough of what he wants, namely atten by I Dunno	Jun 3rd, 2005 05:08:20 PM
Back to the film, the action and FX are obviously going to be better but I have to say I'm going to miss Burton's Gotham city design. Other than that it looks superior to the others. Just keep Robin out of it until the last 15 minutes of the last film in the series.
Moriarty LOVED Begins.... end of discussion. by Jon_Snow	Jun 3rd, 2005 07:52:30 PM

Re: SalvatoreGravano'sSadPost by RichardHeade	Jun 3rd, 2005 11:29:05 PM
Hey, Salvatore- Shut-up. You're exactly the type of idiot I was referring to when I mentioned the onslaught of posts accusing me of racism. (Fortunately yours seems to be the only one, dumb ass!) Read the review again. For someone who claims to be a younger (based on their prose and stating they're a film student), born foreigner, even if they were raised with english as a secondary language they wouldn't be as adept at using colloquialisms familiar to those born and residing here in the US. That's not racism, that's reality. Re-read the review keeping that in mind and notice how the poster makes sure we're aware of buying the soundtrack and other specific marketing points. I'm no racist. Just familiar with marketing campaigns. Thank you. (And when you're done re-reading the review, go make me some spaghetti and call dat guy we both know and see if he can do somethin' about the thing we need done?...Capiche, greaseball?)
To RichardHeade by SanjuroYojimbo	Jun 4th, 2005 01:18:14 AM
Look, I hate to do this but just shut the fuck up - if u want my brief bio - i went to school in the UK for most of my life and now I'm in the States- and I want to buy the soundtrack cos I liked the music, and if you like the music then you can buy it, I couldn't care less.
John Snow....Moriarty also loved 'ATTACK OF THE CLONES' by RIVERO	Jun 4th, 2005 02:59:10 AM
End of discussion.
Sequel TAG question (spoilers I guess) by JckNapier	Jun 4th, 2005 04:16:25 AM
For those who've seen it, what is the last scene that promises The Joker in the next movie? Just curious.
JckNapier, here is how they "introduce" the Joker (Spoilers ahea by Shawn F.	Jun 4th, 2005 09:28:45 AM
It's during the scene where Gordon shows Batman the batsignal. He mentions a new criminal who leaves a calling card (no pun intended). Gordon shows him the card, which is face down in the evidence bag. Batman flips it over, the Joker is exposed, and ta da! We know who will be the villain in the sequel.
Two thumbs up from Ebert and Roeper... with Ebert calling BB one by Jon_Snow	Jun 4th, 2005 09:33:12 AM

review at Hollywood Reporter by abcdefz1	Jun 4th, 2005 10:44:26 AM
There's a really glowing review at Hollywood Reporter. http://www.hollywoodreporter.c om/thr/ reviews/review_display.jsp?vnu _content_id=1000946415
Variety review by abcdefz1	Jun 4th, 2005 11:10:53 AM
Uh oh. Todd McCarthy's not enthusiastic, and he's a pretty level-headed critic. He seems to have wanted more of a comic book movie, though; sounds like he walked in with some baggage. http://www.variety.com/review/ VE1117927300?categoryId=31&cs= 1
Heh... Variety didn't like it for the very reason I WILL lik by Jon_Snow	Jun 4th, 2005 12:04:13 PM

Re: Sanjuro Yojimbo by RichardHeade	Jun 4th, 2005 01:19:27 PM
Two different last names? One from your review and one from your post? Go back to your desk and come up with something better, marketing hack. I can't believe those guys at Warner Bros. trusted this campaign to you. And if you wouldn't mind, could you please get me some more won ton and a pot of cold tea? Thanks!
DickHeade by SanjuroYojimbo	Jun 4th, 2005 06:14:34 PM
Yeah the last name didn't fit when I created the ID. Bummer, huh? You said it yourself if they wanted a good marketing job done they would have trusted it to someone else, hence my review technically can't be a plant, right? Anyway, you probably won't change your mind, I couldn't care less, I'm over it, later buddy.
Very thoughtful review at GROUCHO by abcdefz1	Jun 5th, 2005 10:38:46 AM
I'd never heard of this web site before, but Rotten Tomatoes linked to it. http://www.grouchoreviews.com/ index.php?module= Movie_Reviews&func=display&id= 2239
RichardHeade, have you ever been to Japan... by Ktak	Jun 6th, 2005 03:03:20 AM
...or do you personally know any real nihonjin? It sure doesn't sound like it. I've lived in Japan for a few years now, and have worked as a writer/editor/proofreader for a number of large organizations. Believe me when I say that I personally know dozens of Japanese nationals who can write rings around most Talkbackers. In fact, even though English is mandatory in junior high school and high school here, most Japanese tend to be stronger in their written English than their spoken English. I'm constantly amazed that people here often have a better technical understanding of English grammar than many Americans. An American will instinctively know whether a sentence is grammatically correct or not. But I know many nihonjin who can tell you exactly WHY it's right or wrong. Ask the average guy on the street in Los Angeles to conjugate a verb and he'll probably think you wanna have sex. As it turns out, Sanjuro Yojimbo was raised in the UK, so that explains his English proficiency. But there's no absence of competent Japanese writers here. The premiere he attended at Roppongi Hills did happen. And I haven't heard any bad buzz from it yet. And FYI, wonton (one word) isn't Japanese. It's Chinese (derived from the Chinese "Guangdong").

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