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Is FACES OF DEATH A Franchise Picture?

uhhh.... by Rearden	May 4th, 2005 02:20:46 PM
If it hits theaters, how extreme could it really be? Seriously. I believe it when I see it.
get fucked, MURF by blue7	May 4th, 2005 02:21:48 PM
Yeah, what a great idea. Make a gay movie out of some gay old fake videotapes. Maybe you'll hit a home run like you did with LXG, you load.
If it wasn't already such a... by DocPazuzu	May 4th, 2005 02:27:03 PM
...risible idea, based on a cack-handed, odious piece of pop culture to begin with, they would have lost me at "A young, sexy group of kids." Stinko!
memories... by rotten666	May 4th, 2005 02:35:36 PM
I remember those fucking tapes. Some was real stuff (car accidents and people jumping from burning buildings), a lot was fake, but fuck if it wasn't goddamn creepy. My favorite was the beggining when the host cuts up a few corpses, touches the doorknob to exit the morgue, THEN takes of his rubber goves in the hallway and throws them out. Traces of Death wasn't too bad either. Lotsa car accidents. Good shit.
What was real what was fake in FOD? by Syd Mead	May 4th, 2005 02:38:40 PM
Hey, I grew up with this shit and clearly there was some real footage tossed in there. If you recall this grimey 8mm footage from the early 1960's showing a washed up body on the beach? I list that as too hard to fake so real. Money brains? Bull shit. Suicide? Bull shit. Auto Bahn burning wreck with smoldering body sticking out the wind shield of a sports car? Too hard to fake, so real. Security video cam showing dogs attacking and killing a thief? Hard to say. possibly bull shit. And that was the fun of watching those videos with friends. You had to guess. Creating a plot around that is like making Scooby Doo 3: Faces Of Death. Too late for this movie anyway. Faces Of Death moved to TV. In this day and age, watch the evening news what is going on in Iraq. Beheadings, faked GI Joe bodies, torture of prisoners, burning bodies. Hell, it's got it all. And it won't cost you $8.
sexy kids? Hollywood is truly out of ideas by kdoc13	May 4th, 2005 02:39:31 PM
Didn't these guys see Scream? The sexy kids are always the ones who die, then you're left with some scrub like Jamie Kennedy or some fat unfunny fuck like Patton Oswalt or the kid from Stand By Me. Damn, get a bunch of ugly kids and let them get massacred. I'd pay to see that. Also, anyone know of a Snopes-type web site that deals with these flicks factually?
American horror movies by InspectorDoppler	May 4th, 2005 02:46:48 PM

are dead. by InspectorDoppler	May 4th, 2005 02:47:30 PM
(sorry bout that - itchy trigger finger)
It's an interesting idea... by Childe Roland	May 4th, 2005 02:56:55 PM
...from a marketing point of view. You create a horror story based on some lousy fake tapes nobody's thought about in years and proceed under the assumption that the tapes were real. The kiddies will eat that shit up after seeing the movie and run out to rent the originals (which I bet our filmmakers snaked the royalty rights to when they purchased the remake rights). Way to drive up rentals and really take revenues to the next level, gang! Trouble is, to hit that demographic for which such a thing would be "cool," the new film has to be PG-13 friendly, which is the kiss of death for modern horror. I predict mostly cheesy with scattered ham and an 80% chance of suckitude. Plug Paris HIlton into it somehow and that chance becomes a certainty.
I think its time for a Hollywood Lottery by modlight	May 4th, 2005 02:58:16 PM
Thin out the ranks. Who can tell the difference between the Duffs Lohans and Simpsons. All stars under 25 should have to throw their names in a hat and 5 are picked by the Editor of US Weekly. They cordon off LA from Bev Hills to Los Feliz and hunt is on!!! RUN PARIS RUN!!!!
Well it's got me excited! by obi12kenobi	May 4th, 2005 02:59:02 PM
It's got a lot of potential and if they do this right they've got a franchise on their hands. A little worried about the "sexy teens" comment though...
oh yeah by modlight	May 4th, 2005 02:59:07 PM
and film it and you have your Faces of Death movie. Thats what I was getting at.
What was fake... by stlfilmwire	May 4th, 2005 03:01:09 PM
It is easy to find the fake stuff. If it was supposed to be a consumer camcorder shooting footage but then they cut to another angle: fake. If the person on tape is far away but you can hear what they are saying nice and clear: fake. Start there and u will spot the fakes.
One way to make this work would be: by oceansized	May 4th, 2005 03:01:46 PM
to off some hateable celebrities (i.e. Paris Hilton, Pauly Shore) in the recreations. Who among us didn't enjoy seeing Seagal bite the dust in "Executive Decision"?
OOOOHHHH a better idea!!!! by modlight	May 4th, 2005 03:04:28 PM
Ok, how about a movie where these teens are watching these home videos that are sooooo gross and scary and mysterious, and then their phone rings and Dr Gross tells them they have 7 days to live. Writes itself if you ask me.
The remake idiocy stopped being annoying, then stopped being fun by SalvatoreGravano	May 4th, 2005 03:12:47 PM
No announcement of a remake will shock me... although I do admit that something as incomprehensibly imbecilic as a concept of remaking "Faces of Death" comes pretty close. Anyway, the only remake-related thing that I "predicted" a while ago that didn't become reality yet are remakes of (remakes of) recent flicks. "Aw-kay, this year's remake of Texas Chainsaw made money... let's remake it for the next summer!" When will THAT happen? Oh, by the way, is that the same Hollywood Producer Don Murphy that - seriously - scours the IMDB boards to call the viewers who disliked his flicks "moronic scum"? (Remake "August Underground" and the Guinea Pigs with a cast of black [c]rappers now, Donnie)
Replace "sexy group of kids"... by Squarejawhero	May 4th, 2005 03:15:18 PM
... with a couple of classy actors like Bill Pullman and, I dunno, an actress of calibur... Jennifer Connelly... then I'm sold. It's a little boring watching kids die every time in a series of yawnsome "shocks". Let's have some slow-burn grown up horror for a change which doesn't rely on small girls with long black hair. Lets see adults get attacked, people who can attack back, so we can feel threatened. When strong people are made weak, it can be even more effective.
If only this had come out before The Ring, it might seem origina by Lance Rock	May 4th, 2005 03:15:42 PM
But now...a horror movie? About people who die in mysterious ways that is somehow connected to some old videotapes? Now I've heard everything!
modlight and his Hollywood lottery by lynxpro	May 4th, 2005 03:21:11 PM
Great idea. You mean we would get to stone some Hollywood people? Now in your proposed lottery, do the participants use old fashioned rocks Palestinian-style or do they use bricks? How many throws do you get? Is it a 1 for 1 exchange? Hmmmm....Uwe Boll or Akiva Goldsman. Tough decision there. Of course, I am referencing the Shirley Jackson version of a "lottery."
Hey, you guys obviously don't know the rules by 007-11	May 4th, 2005 03:23:14 PM
If bad things happen, they have to happen to sexy kids. While we're talking total bullshit, has anyone else seen Elizabeth Smart trying parlay getting kidnapped into a career. She is on People's 50 most beautiful list ofr God's sake. She's stupid, easily manipualted, she'll go far!
the h8 for Devin by lynxpro	May 4th, 2005 03:23:51 PM
Man, I hope to one day be as h8ed as Devin in the industry...tee hee.
lynxpro, Uwe Boll would direct!!!! by modlight	May 4th, 2005 03:30:49 PM
And then, all M. Night style, he would be the last victim as he gets pelted with old Beta tapes from the roof of Hollywood & Highland. And please... I was trying to downplay any reference to great Literature. This is Hollywood here and I'm trying to get something made. Keep it up and they'll want Dan Cortese to star.
Good Idea/Sexy Kids Comment Stupid/ Faces was creepy, but now th by Mr. Profit	May 4th, 2005 03:39:32 PM
Whatever, I hope they take this film seriously, it has potential to make a killing and scare dumb 17 year olds.
by Exterminans	May 4th, 2005 03:49:07 PM

Sexy teans get involved with Weirdo and start dying? by cookylamoo	May 4th, 2005 03:54:40 PM
God, how to they keep coming up with all these wonderful, original ideas? I guess sniffing cocaine off breasts really works.
cookylamoo by lynxpro	May 4th, 2005 04:11:17 PM
I hope to get my future ideas that way too... :)
Interesing pitch... by Dr_Boll	May 4th, 2005 04:14:17 PM
..now make this thing NC-17 so parents will march on captial hill trying to get it banned. This has goriest film of all time potential.
Breakdown of a young sexy group of kids by MaxCalifornia.	May 4th, 2005 04:15:14 PM

Man, you know what would make this work? by Flim_	May 4th, 2005 04:19:59 PM
If you cast ADULTS, people with maturity, strength and wisdom to draw from. See, because when someone who has greater faculties gets offed, you get scared. You get frightened, because it hits closer to home. Say there's a group of adults who used to watch the movies as kids, and they had like a club based on it. Say they start getting offed in their places of security - home, work... wherever - that shit is good and upsetting. Just because you want to appeal to the juvenile demographic doesn't mean you have to cast the film with adolescents... If you make it appeal to adults with an 'R' rating (which is a larger demographic, incidentally) then maybe they'll start going to the movies again. Adults don't stay home because they somehow just don't like movies any more... They stay home because the movies don't appeal to their mental level. Get them where they live and work, make them relate to it, and your larger demo will flock to the theatres for the 'event' of the film. "But," as LeVar likes to say, "You don't have to take my word for it..."
Ahem, let me try that again : Breakdown of "a young sexy group o by MaxCalifornia.	May 4th, 2005 04:21:40 PM
The Young, Sexy Multi-Demographic-Appeal Group of Kids (TM) will be comprised of : one blonde hot cheerleader type, to be played by Jessica Biel, or if wet, someone from a tv show like Kristen Bell, her brunette-haired idiot jock boyfriend, one tough black dude, his latina girlfriend to do the screaming, one token Asian kid for no apparent reason, and one nerd/fat/glasses-wearing guy to be the comedy relief. At least one of the above will be played by a flavor-of-the-week teeny bopper singer. Any more bad horror movie stereotypes I've missed out?
you forgot by Shigeru	May 4th, 2005 04:31:39 PM
the goth girl who lives and turns into a preppy at the end
Sexy group of kids...??? And you really think this is going to by Alcamaeon	May 4th, 2005 04:43:47 PM

Sounds like Ass by Mooly	May 4th, 2005 04:48:05 PM
So they want to make a horror movie featuring a group of sexy kids (every crap teen horror movie ever), mysterious deaths possibly caused by videotapes (ring), urban legends (urban legend) and they think it will be good? Why don't they just slap a PG-13 rating on that inevitable shit-fest to truely make it unoriginal garbage.
Never saw them... by ZeroCorpse	May 4th, 2005 04:57:12 PM
I never saw the appeal to watching people die. I attended enough real funerals to get my fill of death, thanks. Why people would consider snuff films entertaining has always been a mystery to me.
Why not just skip the boys and just do a movie where a guy kills by cookylamoo	May 4th, 2005 05:19:35 PM
Like the Italians used to make. At least those films were honest about their sadism.
"young sexy group of kids" leaped out at me too by Silver Shamrock	May 4th, 2005 05:21:23 PM
I'm so tired of this shit. Cynical moviemaking assholes. These fuckers watch Urban Legends 2 and say, "right, this is what we'll have.. a young sexy group..and it has to be pg-13.." Has the future of Horror ever been so grim? is anyone else tired of scripts made by target marketing and demographics?
"Like if Devin from Chud was on fire and begging to be pissed on by godoffireinhell	May 4th, 2005 05:54:01 PM
Awesome.
I'd prefer "aged, BBWs and hobos" myself by Meg 3D!!!	May 4th, 2005 05:56:31 PM
but if Murphy wants "young, sexy kids" then he shall have it. Gotta love that Murphy. This sounds crass and unworkable but what the fuck? Get going and remake all the 70s-80s titles and get it done with. I hope to see Rob Cohens' BLOODSUCKING FREAKS starring that hot blonde from 8 SIMPLE RULES, and Jeremy Piven as the evil ringmaster. Carry on.
They already remade this by ElPaw	May 4th, 2005 06:13:09 PM
it was called Saw. *** What's up with the new domain and rss feed?
I've always drawn the line at real stuff in horror movies by DocPazuzu	May 4th, 2005 06:22:52 PM
I can tolerate just about anything if it's fake, but to seek out real death footage as entertainment is fucked up.
Man, oh man... by Blue_Demon	May 4th, 2005 06:23:37 PM
How old was Ellen Burstyn in "The Exorcist?" Early to mid 30s? Jason Miller looked almost 40. We don't need any young sexy kids. Sigourney was sexy in "Alien" and she was 29. Can kids REALLY not enjoy a movie unless somebody just past puberty is being menaced?
Sounds Like A Missed Opportunity by Jinxo	May 4th, 2005 06:24:13 PM
I dunno. Sounds like an interesting franchise but it seems to me like they're running the wrong way with it. Making the Doctor guy the bad guy? Doing a plot akin to the oh so successful Blair Witch 2? Why wouldn't you go the most obvious route? You have Dr. Gross as a sort of Crypt Keeper character who intros each flick. Only he's scary because he is just so analytical and cold about the nasty shit he's about to show you. Then the gimmick is that the films are set up as being based on real events. If they actually are who cares. But you say, "This really happened!" Then you throw the weirdest wrongest plots out there. Maybe even play it with some odd feel of realism. Except of course that the realism is broken up by decapitations and nastiness. So, like Fargo meets Too Shocking For TV. The trick would be to play it just believable enough for folks to wonder if it was based on something real.
Snuff Films? by SIR-SLEDGE450	May 4th, 2005 06:46:18 PM
Nicholas Cage likes snuff films....And we aint talking 'biut 8mm here people)
Wow. We have sunk pretty low in our entertainment choices by doobieflixx	May 4th, 2005 07:17:09 PM
I must be old fashioned but I liked when movies were actually scary rather than gory. Basing a film on a series of tapes that most people watch (I hope) because of curiosity is not a good idea. Pretty fucked actually. Just my opinion.
Pauly Shore as the DOC!! as for the sexy kids.... by funkyhouse	May 4th, 2005 08:16:49 PM
Corey haim,the dude that played Johnny from karate kid and william hung as the KIDS oh and to throw in a lady for them all to gang bang,the fat chick from less than perfect...with a cameo from beyonce as a hitch hiker on her way to a gospel conference,that tells them all they are doomed...dooooomed
Surprised no one has mentioned www.rotten.com yet. by HanFiredFirst	May 4th, 2005 08:21:05 PM

Now that my friends, is what you would call "COOL NEWS!!" now ca by MentallyMariah	May 4th, 2005 08:47:43 PM
Did I just read what I just read? Wow, the vicodin just kicked in!
I wouldn't see it, but... by zigster	May 4th, 2005 09:52:00 PM
I smell box office gold on this one. 60-70 million domestic. Guess they'll be upgrading their hookers soon.
The Thing About Sexy Teens. by dr_dreadlocks	May 4th, 2005 10:57:36 PM
People and executives are stuck in the demographic idealism. Which is, if we put sexy teens into the film, the unsexy teens will flock to it. Since the world is made up of them unsexy folk, we can't go wrong! It doesn't matter if it doesn't work forty times, if it works once: "Scream" they'll keep trying until it does again and watch the others fail. The thing is that, this may sound Mckee, story is king. When you wind a good tale, you'll get an audience no matter what the fuck the situation is. Movies "back in the day" had strong opening weekends, but held them for half a bloody year, Titanic anyone? Now it's just a matter of cashing in, so sexy teens and a derived story are king, even if it fails. But the kicker is the fact that these people make films for a living, and if they cease doing so, they can't make a living anymore. So when you have no money, and you need money, you seek money in the quickest possible manner. You cobble together a story quickly, find a gimmick, get a sexy cast and move forward. It's sad, and hard for us to watch, but fuck... these people have to eat. I understand most aren't exactly struggling for food, but that's not the point. Money to be made, it's easy to just make a shitty gimmick movie and move forward. It's essentially the same percentage as your average workplace. For every workhorse, you get a fucking idiot. Hollywood is the same way, just more public, expensive, and groan inducing. I'm beating a dead horse, yes, but damn if it isn't fun sometimes.
Well. actually rotten.com did get mentioned earlier ... by Shan	May 4th, 2005 10:58:53 PM
... just so you'd know ...
That's cause I got enough of "My Country Right or Wrong" from my by cookylamoo	May 4th, 2005 11:30:07 PM

Anchorite by Shan	May 5th, 2005 12:48:53 AM
I think there's been enough flamewars to provide evidence to the contrary, I think ...
P.S by Shan	May 5th, 2005 12:50:08 AM
... of course, obviously I read it by the way.
"A sexy young group of kids...." by CyberBeavis1326	May 5th, 2005 01:21:03 AM
Wasn't that the same line they used for pitching the new "House of Wax". The pitch must have went something like this: "Well it'll be like the old "House of Wax" but we'll use a sexy young group of kids like Paris Hilton and Chad Micheal Murray." Come to think of it, that line has been used in pitches for these teen movies the past 7 years. Someone needs to kick the shit out of the producer who said it so stylishly, like it was a cool idea.
By the way ... by Shan	May 5th, 2005 02:44:50 AM
I mean that all as a compliment, anchorite in that you provoke debate and unfortunately a fair stack of uncalled for abuse ... now I'm getting all self conscious and explaining myself ad infinitum sigh
But you gotta love that dig at that odious suicidal turd Devin F by Cash Bailey	May 5th, 2005 02:57:27 AM
Murph's got a set of balls on him, that's for sure. I love when grown men let their pettyness run rampant for the entertainment of others.
Dr. Boll by lynxpro	May 5th, 2005 03:10:44 AM
Dr. Boll, I hope a Dalek runs you over. Greatest movie, ever!
One of those damn movies... by grendelson138	May 5th, 2005 09:41:48 AM
had footage of a guy getting eaten by a bear that had to be real. Nothing like seeing a huge bear chomp down on some delicious man intestines. Also footage of cows getting killed at the slaughterhouse. I love beef (and still do), but that shit had me feeling nauseous for a week. Oh yeah, this will suck.
Why the animals? by superman5150	May 5th, 2005 11:11:41 AM
Why did these films feel the need to show animal testing, slaughterhouses, and whatnot? I'm not a PETA member or anything. I just felt that it was a cop out for "filler." Besides, any death search on Kazaa or other would give you enough videos for 30 of these films.
Do not deny your fascination with death... by aceattorney	May 5th, 2005 11:45:22 AM
AWESOME
"Our model will be what they did with the new Chainsaw." by DwarfSidious	May 5th, 2005 07:35:51 PM
That would be the movie that Roger Ebert gave NO STARS. Congratulations. You have a business model designed with the express purpose of making crap. There are good horror movies to be made, you know. Instead of positioning your lack of talent as savvy ("What cheap IP can we mine today?"), how about writing an original script and creating your own franchise? Loser online b-school gutter rat. Quit adding shit movies to the world. There are enough already.
Hollywood Assholes cranking out Shit... by Mike Lovestein	May 7th, 2005 05:24:18 AM
I hope Don Murphy chokes to death on a sexy young kid's ball sack. P.S. FUCK "THE SMILE SHOP" FUCK JOHN HUNT & FUCK JON LANE I just wanted to say that. You guys are so lucky to have a forum where you can say what's on your mind, and not have to worry about being censored.

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