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AICN-Downunder: Wolf Creek; Black Sheep; Charlotte's Web; and a Debate between George W. Bush & Forrest Gump'

The Wachowski joke is great! by moviemaniac-7	Apr 30th, 2005 03:03:41 PM
O, and third.
Well, that's it for me and AICN. by Noriko Takaya	Apr 30th, 2005 04:12:10 PM
Racist garbage posted all over the place with impunity by shitbags like ForeverTJ and vikingkitty, blatent studio cocksucking by Harry and crew and a truly crappy UI have made this site one of the toilets of the internet. Anybody wants me I'll be over at cinescape.com, CHUD or cinemablend: timelier movie/TV/etc news and analysis of far higher quality than this sewer, and far more intelligently run! Plus they don't selectively enforce their own rules either - unlike here, eh fatboy? AICN = FUCKTARD ZOO. And I'm out like a herd of turtles.
In 1999, there were 45,678,891 sheep in New Zealand by prevert	Apr 30th, 2005 07:56:21 PM
From Statistics NZ. Black Sheep wil owwwwn!!!
Black Sheep by thanner	Apr 30th, 2005 08:28:53 PM
..........so........it's a porn film......
The problem with Aussie cinema is.... by Spacker Dave	May 1st, 2005 03:58:02 AM
...1)We make films NO ONE gives a fuck about. I mean really, the plotlines from most of the shit that comes out of here wouldn't be fit to run in the midday movie timeslot. It's boring as fuck and just plain tired. 2)Sam Worthington. Who the fuck made this guy a star? This guy is as thick as two short planks and just as wooden. How does he keep getting lead roles? 3)Money. Cash. Dollars. We have NONE. And this is what it all boils down to. We need ore investors to give people a chance. We need some balls to the wall genre flicks to appeal to an international market and I'm sad to say won't happen anytime soon as our industry is so focused on telling Australian stories that DON'T appeal to ANYONE except Australian film critics. The general Australian filmgoing public could not give two shits about Aussie film. When your choices are some dreary, whiney David Wenham flick or CGI robots it's not hard to tell what your $12 is going on. And that is audiences here in general, and this is why cinematic crimes like The Pacifier do so well over here.
boo hoo... by MaulRat	May 1st, 2005 05:46:20 AM
One person having a hissy fit and declaring that he's leaving is like McDonalds losing a customer.. or one caffine junkie switching from Coke to Pepsi.. I wonder if Harry will have to put up more flash ads to pay for the loss.. Now.. onto more important things.. The Australian people have neither the funding from Gov't or enough major financial backers to make the kind of movies most moviegoers want to see... movies that make money are usually the ones that spend in excess of 40-50 million (barring the Blair Witch once in an eon fluke type), and even if we did have the money, we don't have a population base to bring home enough dollars to warrant such a production... unless it ships internationally in which case you're looking at millions in advertising and marketing for the film to bring in some bank.. if you break even on the advertising overseas alone, you're seen as a success... how many GOOD australian films have made it overseas? The Castle?.. Chopper?.. Japanese Story?.. The Bank?.. Lantana?. No, sadly the ones that make it are the quirky ones.. like Muriels Wedding.. Priscilla queen of the Desert, or gulp Crocodile Dundee... It's really sad.. We obviously have world class studios and production facilities (Just ask George Lucas, the Wachowskis and Bryan Singer) so what's the problem?... I'm no economist but the only way I see Aussie films getting noticed and rolling in overseas dosh is to have a fantastic story, a-class production values and genuine star quality.. then maybe you'll get international bank and hopefully raise the bar for Aussie cinema.. unfortunately as far as I can see the problem still lies with financial backing. It's a real shame.. because there really are some little gems of Australian cinema that deserve a wider audience.
The Last Australian Film I saw ... by Shan	May 1st, 2005 09:46:28 AM
With the exception of "The Dish" (and that was a few years ago) was Mad Max 2. So, I have to agree that they're not really making Australian films I want to see. That's the problem - I have no idea about the solution though.
"Anybody wants me " by hamo455	May 1st, 2005 06:46:29 PM
Don't worry, no-one will. And PJ already blew up a sheep in Bad Taste - maybe that started the war?...
show me the money by blair_271	May 1st, 2005 08:53:29 PM
One major contributing factor to the state of the aussie film industry is that we are a very small country, in terms of population. Not only that, but we're so culturally diverse that films tend to be marketed to australian sub-cultures, for example - One Perfect Day, The Wogboy, etc. It should be pointed out that although Australia makes a lot of crap, so does everyone else. For every "You and Your Stupid Mate" there are five or ten of "Ella Enchanted". The problem is not that we make bad films, it's that places like the US and Europe have a large enough local market that one success can carry the losses of nine failures, something that Australia, through sheer weight of people, cannot do. Despite everything the FFC tell you, the key to a sucessful Australian film is not making it for a local audience. And as long as the FFC continue to believe this, (and continue to put it on their funding application criteria), the Aussie film industry will always be a money pit.
state of delusion by fertilecelluloid	May 2nd, 2005 09:37:33 PM
As I'm still here, I'll weigh in. One of the main "decision makers" at the FFC is an ex-film distributor who distributed mostly arthouse fare. That's called getting it wrong. The FFC don't understand or have any interest in genre pics because the bureaucrats who run it don't watch them. Then you have another larger problem in Australia: All the government film bodies are (mostly) run by militant feminists. This is a fact. Film Vic, the AFC, to name a few, are controlled by women. As we all know, women are not known for making groundbreaking genre pics (Katherine Bigelow and Roberta Findlay aside). Militant feminists are even less likely to make or greenlight such films. This is one of the main reasons why genre pics have no standing in Australia. Dykes and militant feminists want to make films like SOMERSAULT, GO FISH and THE WELL. The population of Australia is not so much the problem as is the lack of genre film production. Korea rose from nothing on genre pics; Hong Kong, until recently, thrived on genre pics. The Aussie "industry" has been wringing its collective hands about flop films for decades. They do nothing to rectify the situation because the dykes are there to get other dykes jobs. It's not about filmmaking. It's about a career in "the arts".
p.s. YOU AND YOUR STUPID MATE by fertilecelluloid	May 2nd, 2005 09:41:02 PM
I did not see director Marc Gracie's previous film, TAKEAWAY, as I am Canadian and it wasn't released there. I did just see YOU AND YOUR STUPID MATE. Despite the title and the trailer that suggests something it's not, I thought the film was rather good and just posted an imdb review. Nopt a classic, but knew that it was a lowbrow comedy. Good script, too. Many will disagree, but so what(!)
WOLF CREEK by fertilecelluloid	May 2nd, 2005 09:44:44 PM
I mentioned the small amount of Aussie filmers who are making genre stuff last week (S. Young--Razer Eaters, M. Savage--Defenceless) and should have mentioned G. McClean. I saw WOLF CREEK at Sundance and liked it very much. Very tight. Not "wimpy". Technically polished (shot on HD). Will it do well in Australia? Hope so. Will it spawn more Aussie horror? Not if the militant feminists have their way.
Aussie Film Industry by Mysterious Ways	May 3rd, 2005 06:40:02 AM
I'm an independant Aussie film maker and have just completed my first film. I haven't gone the "traditional" Aussie film path of making either a depressing drama or quirky comedy. I've aimed to do what the funding bodies won't allow and have made a supernatural thriller. I've followed in Robert Rodriguez' footsteps and made it for $8000 by doing things that are cheap, yet effective and have ended up with a surprisingly good product. I had considered applying for funding from the funding bodies, but like you guys have mentioned previously, they only want stories that hold (and I quote) "cultural significance" to Australia. Meaning that genre films are not welcome. I think in the long run, I preferred doing things the way I have, because now I have a 98 minute film that I 100% own and had zero interuptions from beurocrats. I will never go to the funding bodies with the changes they have recently made, but unless I can find a private financial backer or studio to fund my films, I'm going to have a tough time moving to the next stage. All I know is my next step will be to take Dark Dreaming (shameless self promotion) to an agent with 3 other scripts in the hopes that they will represent me and help me to the next step. My dream is to make films, my ambition is to make good Aussie films that Aussies will be proud to see.
Wouldn't it be cheaper to bring in live american pigs by TimBenzedrine	May 3rd, 2005 11:28:52 AM
than to redo the animatronic pigs to match Aussie pigs? The story takes place in America anyway, so it stands to reason that the animals, no matter where the movie is shot, should look like thet came from an American farm. Or do they figure the audience doesn't care, like those old Tarzan Movies that use Indian elephants in Africa.
Mysterious Ways by Latauro	May 3rd, 2005 09:15:53 PM
This is exactly what everyone should be doing. Drop me an email, I'd love to take a look at your film.
Mysterious Ways by MaulRat	May 4th, 2005 12:21:34 AM
That's excellent mate... There should be more people out there willing to get up off thier idea and pick up a camera instead of critisising everyone else who does.. I hope you get where you wanna be in the industry man. I really do. Good luck to ya.
Thanks by Mysterious Ways	May 4th, 2005 05:55:34 AM
Thanks for your support guys. I just want to try and help improve the situation with our film industry so that the film commissions can start making sensible decisions and let us make some good films for a change.

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