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Lars Von Trier's MANDERLAY has a trailer for you!!!

by Some Dude	Apr 21st, 2005 05:46:52 AM

Von Trier whups a llama's ass! by Some Dude	Apr 21st, 2005 05:47:38 AM
Can't wait. Dogville was sweet.
Von Trier sucks! by DerLanghaarige	Apr 21st, 2005 05:58:36 AM
I don't know what's wrong with this guy. I have no problem with intellectual arthouse movies but everythnig he did was way too "look-at-me-I'm-such-a-smartas s-and-I'm-the-only-person-who- makes-good-movies-and-you-all- should-fuck-me-for-coming-up-w ith-the-idea-of-Dogma95" and...I just hate him. He is the Joel Schumacher of Arthouse movies!
Lars von Trier hates himself by Monkey Butler	Apr 21st, 2005 06:13:19 AM
Yes he does. Dogville was pretty interesting, but that was despite him, not because of him.
hmmm by Demosthenes2	Apr 21st, 2005 06:34:19 AM
Well I don't like, and this is probably true for nearly everyone, when we have actors replace other actors for sequels. While I'm not surprised at all that Nicole Kidman isn't back, it's a bit confusing as Bryce Dallas Howard is notably younger than Nicole. Then again we have Chloe Sevigny and Lauren Bacall playing different characters than the first film, so continuity be damned. Bryce is actually quite a remarkable actress and was the best, and almost the only noteworthy, part of The Village. I remember my skepticism when hearing that the daughter of Ron Howard was cast, but I've since learned that Shyamalan cast her before knowing she was his daughter. I loved Dogville, I'm not sure where else von Trier needs to take the concept thematically though, slavery was certainly a part of Dogville just on a less literal level as it would be here, but I'm still game for this one and look forward to it.
Dogville's "I watching a play at a theatre" smacked of a direct by Cymbol	Apr 21st, 2005 07:21:37 AM
But Dogville's story held it's own. Dancer in the Dark was terrible and Dogville was the better remake of Dancer in the Dark. Dancer in the Dark was about the death penalty, and Dogville took a damn long time to reveal in the end it was about the death penalty. Do people that vile deserve to live? Would you stop it after they put you through all that? It was an incredible ending. However, the direction didn't make or break the movie. The direction certainly broke Dancer. A musical with not one inspirational moment on film. Pure crap. I'm interested in the story for the next movie. But I'll never view a movie based on this director's "talent".
well Bronkowitz&Jarv by CurryIce	Apr 21st, 2005 07:31:05 AM
i can understand what you mean. Dogma was a movement against a certain way of making a movie and reduce everything to just plain content. For example to make everything "SIMPLE". And there are many rules to follow. The funny thing is that even Trier himself or others like Vinterberg don't always follow the rules 'cause it's hardly possible to execute a complete film in that way. I mean the Dogma style even refuse to use artificial light ?! It's so stupid. One of the reasons for Dogma was that other films are always done in the same way.(using artificial light, making all kind of tricks and FX, camera crane and whatever which would distract the audience from the content or intention of the film) Dogma style is like taking your camera(YES, ONLY CAMERA) and take your crew and film on real location. Nothing is artificial. It is as it is. Of course it's not always in that way. I think that's...uh well very European to force oneself such rules. It looks very idiotic. They claim to be free in a certain way but at the same time they're imprisoned in their own Dogma rules. (still you have to consider the fact that within the rules of Dogma you can still be creative just in different way and style) Nevertheless i pretty liked Dancer in the Dark.
Seems like a Dogville follow-up to me. Wich means a chick will b by chien_sale	Apr 21st, 2005 08:26:17 AM
like every single one of his films
Starts off OK by kuryakin	Apr 21st, 2005 09:02:17 AM
But the bit at the end wher he's talking about how she'll have to change things reminds me of one of those "educational" films from Europe that the used to show on TV here in the UK when I was a kid. I seem to remember John Hurt doing the voiceovers as well... Anyway the promo for Worst Case Scenario on the same page is much better - I dunno what the hell it's about but anything featuring a combination of the Dutch hatred for Germany with Nazi zombies is bound to be a winner
CAN'T WAIT! by no-no	Apr 21st, 2005 09:39:08 AM
another 2, 3 weeks and I'll get to see the last Von Trier movie, and Cronenberg, Wenders, Egoyan, Allen, Jarmush, Van Sant next... It's gonna be a good year in Cannes...
Dogme95 by Gristle	Apr 21st, 2005 09:48:00 AM
The only Dogme95 film von Trier made was "The Idiots". Vinterberg made "The Celebration". All their other films did not adhere to the Dogme95 principles, and did not claim to. As for Bryce Dallas Howard replacing Nicole Kidman, it's not like this is an actual sequel to "Dogville". These films are allegories linked in theme, all centered around the archetypal Grace character. IT will probably make the whole thing more interesting by having different actors play Grace (which seems to be a popular move these days: witness Todd Solondz's "Palindromes" and Todd Haynes's "I'm Not There: A Supposition of a Film on Dylan").
'was despite him, not because of him' by milius	Apr 21st, 2005 10:01:00 AM
Monkey Butler, what? You mean despite the fact he wrote and directed it and made it one of the most original, daring and politically charged pieces of cinema in recent years?
by Trenox	Apr 21st, 2005 10:30:12 AM
Both Dancer in the dark and Dogville are not Dogme movies.. And the whole Dogme paradigme ended a little while ago so there will be no more dogme movies. Why is it so bad to try and experiment with the medium? - just because its not an american invention doesnt make it lame. Dogme shouldnt really be seen as 'rules' (because they were broken) but more a catalyst made to put focus on the story and the acting and NOT the all the considerations you would normally have production-wise (light, special fx) and to not just rely on cheap gimmicks like unneeded violence and carchases. I thought Dogme was a nice breath of fresh air to the international moviescene, and it certainly did wonders to the danish moviescene in particular. Not said that all movies should be this way, but some change once in a while is a nice thing. If you are openminded enough that is....
Not even John Hurt's narration can save this trailer. by anchorite	Apr 21st, 2005 11:33:36 AM
This looks unspeakably bad. So I won't say anything more.
anyone have a direct download link? by Biko Salamar	Apr 21st, 2005 11:48:23 AM
that play.dk link is not working at all!
lars von teh suk by Teh Suk	Apr 21st, 2005 12:48:40 PM
Just wanted to. Not knowing all the directors in the world is teh suk.
Lars Von Trier thinks that everyone in the US has a gun and is p by Quin the Eskimo	Apr 21st, 2005 01:24:35 PM
That makes me want to shoot him on the face!
Vandelay Industries! by L. Duderino	Apr 21st, 2005 01:35:45 PM
- "What-delay industries? No, you're way off. This is an apartment." - "Say 'Vandelay Industries!' Say 'Vandelay Industries!'"
Lars Von Trier thinks that everyone in the US has a gun and is p by bb6634	Apr 21st, 2005 01:38:04 PM
And your point is?...
"Danskj by DocPazuzu	Apr 21st, 2005 01:38:44 PM
I've enjoyed several of von Trier's films (Riget most notably), but the man is in no way a genius - cinematic or otherwise. A lot of his films are utterly unwatchable shit, like Dancer in the Dark (die, Bj
bb6634 by Quin the Eskimo	Apr 21st, 2005 01:44:15 PM
Its a joke, hey his counrymen use to wear giant leather fallices, it's all good
Dogme was a joke by moviemaniac-7	Apr 21st, 2005 01:57:25 PM
It was. Von Trier and Vinterberg & Co never were very serious about the concept. It was just for fun. I like Von Trier's movies. He has the balls to make movies that are completely different from anything else. Not everything plays out perfectly, but at least it's something different.
And You Want to Be My Latex Salesman by Aquatarkusman	Apr 21st, 2005 02:46:03 PM
If it weren't for "The Celebration," Dogme 95 would have been a copmletely useless movement. Hearing von Trier's blustery promotion for principles he rarely adheres to is really annoying. However, Dogville was a pretty good movie, if overlong, based on the excellent acting that von Trier usually elicits.
This looks so fucking good by Stanley Spector	Apr 21st, 2005 04:30:14 PM
But not as good as Dear Wendy, the von Trier-penned, Vinterberg-directed film that played Sundance. Nevertheless, Dogville was one of the best movies I saw last year.
It looks just like Dogville, so it should be detached and self-i by chains	Apr 21st, 2005 04:53:09 PM
I love small, artful films... and I couldn't sit through Dogville. This looks like more of the same. -"Lars Von Try Using Real Sets and Locations Next Time"
Oh yeah, now I see why Hollywood keeps on producing mindless, un by Hellicious	Apr 21st, 2005 11:35:03 PM
Just to meet our standards, our lack of imaginations. As a proud American, I rather go enjoy real movies like XXX:Next Level or Torque. Watching movies to ponder is not an American way. Just look at our President..
tripe rubbish...ouch by graycove	Apr 22nd, 2005 12:36:28 AM

Riget (The Kingdom) 3 by Shan	Apr 22nd, 2005 10:21:55 AM
There's never going to be a Kingdom 3, is there? sigh
Shan by DocPazuzu	Apr 22nd, 2005 11:44:55 AM
Nope. Ernst-Hugo J
Kingdom 3 by Boxcutter	Apr 22nd, 2005 12:08:55 PM
Summer of 2003 there was a piece in a Swedish newspaper on von Trier, in which he said he was thinking of resurrecting Riget - using existing footage of J
Ah yes... another movie about slavery.... by brooklynne	Apr 23rd, 2005 04:09:36 AM
With the main lead a white hero/ine... Will this ever end? If it's inteh true LVT fashion, she, too, will suffer much at the hands of her costars before this film is through. I am both curious and afraid to see his take on the peculiar institution...
Grace by Pksoze22	Apr 26th, 2005 12:27:21 PM
It seems the point of this movie is to show how tyranical even a good person like Grace can become.
triology - the point by rumson	May 12th, 2005 08:12:14 AM
These movies are not about the US! Von Trier has been quoted as stating the movie is more about Danish littlemindedness and the "dark" side of human beings in general, ie arrogance, fear, hypocrisy and antisocial behaviour. The only reason he based the triology in the US is because American critics banged on about him never being in the US and still making Dancer in the Dark based there. In order to counter this critism he decided to place all of his locations for the triology in the US, firing back that Hollywood produces a large number of movies annually which are set in other countries and cultures, of which they have never properly investigated, let alone visited. So stop taking it personally, he is trying to make another point
his best work so far by rumson	May 12th, 2005 08:29:54 AM
Read these interesting reviews on Dogville, which does shed some interesting light on an otherwise ill-understood beautiful film: http://www.24fpsmagazine.com/D ogville.html

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