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KINGDOM OF HEAVEN Has Started Screening!!

Ridley Scott by Shan	Apr 7th, 2005 04:20:43 AM
It's always a big event when one of his films comes out. Looking forward to this one.
I'm still very much looking forward to this thing. by Noriko Takaya	Apr 7th, 2005 04:28:22 AM
I love historical epics and a film set during the Crusades = teh rawk.
Third! by jodocus	Apr 7th, 2005 04:30:32 AM

"I didn by Mr Brownstone	Apr 7th, 2005 04:52:30 AM
I could see that one coming from a mile away... even when the reviewer was "trying to figure out" why he didn't love it. Bloom may be a (barely) competent actor with a pretty face but he has all the charisma and gravitas of a pile of Pumice stone. To paraphrase Chris Rock -- "If you want Russell Crowe, don't get Orlando Bloom. Wait"!
... by Gluecifer	Apr 7th, 2005 05:13:19 AM
""If you want Russell Crowe, don't get Orlando Bloom. Wait"!" 100% true, Mr Brownstone!!!! I used to do a little but a little wouldn't do so the little got more and more...
Hey! Even an imperfect epic is still good enough for me! by Rogue_Leader	Apr 7th, 2005 06:14:23 AM
After the suckworthy epics we've seen shat upon the screen with Troy and Alexander this sounds MORE than good enough for me.
ALEXANDER was my favourite film of 2004 ... by godoffireinhell	Apr 7th, 2005 06:22:08 AM
... so I can't put my trust in the opinion of someone who hated it to the extent of comparing it to KING ARTHUR.
Let's see...Crowe has been in 15 movies that made 632 million... by minderbinder	Apr 7th, 2005 07:56:02 AM
Smart money says fuck Crowe, DO get Bloom.
Smart Money? by WeedyMcSmokey	Apr 7th, 2005 08:26:45 AM
Take the LOTR movies out of that equation and you're left with one Johnny Depp movie. I think giving Bloom the credit for its success is a little, well, stupid. Smart money says get a good franchise, or Russell Crowe - Bloom had little to do with that $1.4 billion. My god, his Paris in Troy was one of the most unlikeable characters in recent history. He found no centre to that part.
Bloom blows by frankenchr1st	Apr 7th, 2005 08:40:25 AM
he's not an A class caliber actor, and won't pull in massive BO returns. The girls fawn and blush at the mere sight of him, but we guys don't. At least not we that are straight :)
Paris IS an unlikeable character, he's supposed to be. by minderbinder	Apr 7th, 2005 08:44:49 AM
He's a coward and a traitor in the original story. Whether or not you think he deserves the credit, the fact is he's been in a bunch of HUGE movies (don't forget, Troy and Black Hawk Down both did well). And smart money definitely does NOT say get Russell Crowe. Look at what he's done, tons of his movies have barely made anything, he's NO guarantee of box office success whatsoever.
Moriarity: "I wonder if a longer running time might have offered by Triumph poops!	Apr 7th, 2005 08:47:15 AM
Sorry, Mori, but a weak excuse to cover things (assuming the disconnect towards Bloom is as bad as the test reviewer comments). Bottom line: Scott and crew STILL had 2 full hours to make you care. If the director or writers or editors didn't accomplish, I seriously doubt thatthe extra footage was the make or break of things. Frankly, you could tack on another fucking 6 hours and you'll never convince me, no matter how much dialoque exposition there is, that I should take Bloom seriously as a Russell Crowe-like Glatiator movie star. Was LOTR fun? Yes. Does Bloom has heroic charisma? Sorry, he's a total wimpish drip. A young Mel Gibson he is not.
What The Alamo should have been? by DannyOcean01	Apr 7th, 2005 09:19:36 AM
Althought this isn't a shining review of Kingdom it does sound like a better balance of the themes we should have seen in that Alamo crapfest. I can't wait to see this film. I've been replaying the trailer's over and over and hell, even Bloom looks good in it.
minderbender, your logic is a joke.... by Captain Katanga	Apr 7th, 2005 09:26:45 AM
can you not even see a flaw in your argument about those actors and box office returns? I cant even be bothered to point it out...
Read my post again. by minderbinder	Apr 7th, 2005 09:42:07 AM
I said EVEN IF YOU DON'T THINK HE DESERVES THE CREDIT, Bloom has been in huge money makers. That's fact. As his career goes forward, we'll see if he's a box office draw without other big stars or a franchise to help him out. And regarding Crowe, I said that he has made plenty of movies that did very little at the box office. If he was a guarantee of BO success, shouldn't he have more big hits under his belt?
"Bloom has been in huge money makers"... and so have Merry and P by Captain Katanga	Apr 7th, 2005 09:51:56 AM
...its a meaningless statement because you absolutely cannot give Bloom credit for the box office of those films. Thats not to say I dont like the guy. Anyway the Crowe comparison isnt about box office... its about charisma.
Orlando Bloom may not have been the greatest choice by IAmLegolas	Apr 7th, 2005 11:08:39 AM
But I didn't want to see Russell Crowe in another sword fighting, Ridley Scott epic. Been there, done that.
On the fence... by Saluki	Apr 7th, 2005 12:18:11 PM
I can't believe I'm on the fence about this one. A Ridley Scott movie. A CRUSADES Ridley Scott movie. The trailer just got no emotion out of me, and the movie seems to be the same. EPIC movies of old didn't have to stage giant battles that all look the same. They had characters that drove the plot. Between Gladiator, Lord of the Rings, Troy (underrated), Alexander, and King Arthur, these battles are all starting to not only look, but FEEL the same. I'm a sucker for the genre, so I'll see it, but I don't think I'll be rushing out to do so. Damn.
Yeah, we all know Box Office is an accurate and important measur by IAmJacksUserID	Apr 7th, 2005 12:27:42 PM
Yeah, Bloom was in the over-rated LOTR and POTC film/s! Wow! There are many better actors that could have done this role! Hell, anyone could have been Legolas! But you always have to have that 'pull-in' factor for such non-mainstream films, so Bloom's yer man!
Bloom is a GD awful actor by AlwaysThere	Apr 7th, 2005 01:47:36 PM
Fuck the box office returns that came about based on the supporting casts from movies he was acting in. Kingdom Of Heaven looks like a carbon copy of Gladiator based on the trailers (showest included) and the tv spots they started running. And what do you know, this guys says the movie has no soul. This movie is troy all over again.
LOL - I though the Saladin actor was David Straitharn!! by Spacesheik	Apr 7th, 2005 01:47:49 PM
Man, David Straitharn (LA CONFIDENTIAL, THE FIRM) is a dead ringer for the Saladin actor.
the trailers fucked this film and give way too much by Spacesheik	Apr 7th, 2005 01:50:14 PM
liam neeson plays a mentor again after STAR WARS and BATMAN and dies...its in the fucking international trailer i couldnt believe it
Trailer Hooked Me by BadGuy	Apr 7th, 2005 02:00:18 PM
I am in. The movie looks like something worth sitting in the theater for a few hours. This debate about Bloom and Crowe though, are you kidding me? There is no comparrison. And I doubt many people are going to go see KoH because Bloom is in it, their going to go watch an entertaining movie by a good director.
It's obvious barely any girls use these talkbacks... by Aston Lad	Apr 7th, 2005 02:29:26 PM
Because judging by some of these comments you'd wonder why he has a career! OK, so his popularity is currently a female-only phenomenon...the same was once true of his Troy co-star Brad Pitt. Then Seven and Fight Club proved there was more to Pitt than just a pretty face. Bloom will prove himself to male audiences yet...
Bloom, Crowe, Pitt by SeanMiller	Apr 7th, 2005 02:42:36 PM
Don't forget about Snatch and 12 Monkeys. Pitt is an awesome actor who could care less about how he looks on film. On another note, I am a little confused about all the hate that is thrown towards Bloom. Was he not in one of the most successful and entertaining trilogies of all time? I thought fanboys and the general public really liked Bloom as Legolas. Then, Bloom came right back with POTC, which was also happily received by the general public. I thought he was a nerd favorite. Suddenly, everyone hates him and knocks his acting ability, what the hell? I hope he surprises everyone with KOH. Oh yeah... you were supposed to hate him as Paris!! It is a credit to Bloom that so many people hated his CHARACTER in Troy (that was the point). People were supposed to sympathize with Eric Bana, who was great in Troy.
Bloom Is Not Bad, Just Miscast by DumbPunter	Apr 7th, 2005 03:12:34 PM
Here is my two cents on the subject: Although I do not feel as negatively towards Bloom as many talkbackers seem to, I do think he is not a leading man. In LOTR, Troy, and even Pirates he was a character driving the plot and action, but not the actual focus. His role is to compliment the main character, not be him. He saves Aragorn with acrobatic finesse, plays the straight-man to Depp's oddities, or displays the nobility of Bana through his cowardice. In no way does he have the charisma to hold up his own film, but I don't think less of him for it, just the people that cast him.
I used to think Ridley Scot was the bomb by numberface	Apr 7th, 2005 03:12:40 PM
But sometime in the 90's he started cutting his movies like a kid with ADD. Too many shots crammed together, no sense of visual or spatial continuity. And, even worse, he got so fucking pompous about his over-blown B-movies. Gladiator is just a sword and sandal pic with good actors and a huge budget. Even Tony Scott cuts too much these days, and he was the cut-heavier of the two. Ridley hires the best DP's in the world, lights like a great Italian painter, then jumbles all these gorgeous shots togther in a big visual mess. That fast-cutting and hyperactive style distances the viewer. I bet if Scott re-made Alien today, it would be a piece of shit. Someone take away his scissors and make him bolt his fucking camera down. Editing and camera movement are only a PART of cinema's visual language. Orson Welles once said "What separates the men from the boys is to be able to play a whole scene in medium-long shot. Any idiot can make a movie with a two-inch lens and a pair of scissors." I'm not saying Scott should do this exactly, but for chrissakes you git, let the audience SEE the movie. Not a bunch of fucking editing.
Orlando isn't good enough to be bad. by Batutta	Apr 7th, 2005 04:04:57 PM
He's a boring, pedestrian actor, especially in these heroic, Braveheart-lite roles. Unless he's playing Legolas, he should be in more contemporary material.
I'm going to see this movie just because it's not a fucking re-m by Forestal	Apr 7th, 2005 04:05:45 PM

Sean Miller has a point... by Aston Lad	Apr 7th, 2005 04:12:45 PM
Legolas was a hugely popular character, one of the best in the film. The negativity towards Bloom now reeks of a backlash, perhaps because he's done the swashbuckling thing in 6 movies over 5 years...he doesn't seem to be making a conscious effort to avoid typecasting, but then again maybe he's just grateful to have found his niche.
The problem is we've seen too many of these over the top million by Orionsangels	Apr 7th, 2005 04:17:13 PM
most lack any real substance
Million man CGI army by Orionsangels	Apr 7th, 2005 04:18:17 PM

"Was LOTR fun? Yes. Does Bloom has heroic charisma? Sorry, he's by Tubba-guts	Apr 7th, 2005 05:05:59 PM
Yeah, right. I think millions of women around the world would argue that. Bloom had "heroic chrisma" blowing out his wazoo in LoTR. I've seen the preview for this movie and it looks like he's a fuckin' heroic figure to me. But, y'know, let's all just bash the shit out of an actor before we've even seen the movie. Of course, that's the AICN Goon Squad way, isn't it? Oh, unless it's anything that stinks of the Goon Squad's precious Star Wars. Fucking fan boys kill me.
Wow, what do we have here? by gil-galad12	Apr 7th, 2005 05:15:57 PM

Wow, what do we have here? by gil-galad12	Apr 7th, 2005 05:19:39 PM
Perhaps everyone is bitching so much in this thread because they're pissed that Star Wars will STILL not get any major awards at the Oscars, and this one just might play big at the Oscars?
numberface by CalVarnson	Apr 7th, 2005 05:23:15 PM
Yours was one of the better posts I've read around here. Great points. Ridley's best work always featured rock-solid compositions and tight cutting. You felt you were watching a director who really understood film language. Although I still enjoy his work for the most part, I feel he's treading dangerously into Michael Bay, hit you over the head with an ACME safe, territory.
Scott's Matchstick Men was his most craftsmanly bit of directing by Osmosis Jones	Apr 7th, 2005 05:32:52 PM
Seriously, anyone who thinks Scott's lost his ability to hold that camera still (which really bugged the shit out of me in Gladiator, along with the Playstation CG and hideous score), should check out the underrated Matchstick Men. A great movie, and perfect for Scott to take a break from these gigantic "epic" productions.
eva green is in this movie ... by Toe Jam	Apr 7th, 2005 06:25:16 PM
therefore, i will go see it no matter what kind of reviews it gets. she is about the most beautiful actress in the world, followed distantly by keira knightley.
I'll wait for ALEXANDER on the dvd final cut by watashiwadare	Apr 7th, 2005 06:33:40 PM
It was literate and strong. don't be a sheep following the flock.
Amazing... by Mr Bonefish	Apr 7th, 2005 07:01:52 PM
people are still blasting Troy which was a great flick. Anyway, this film looks fantastic to me. Bloom actually looks competent in the part.
I would, however, take Bloom over the likes of Ashton Kutcher, F by IAmJacksUserID	Apr 7th, 2005 07:27:55 PM

CalVarnson and Osmosis Jones by numberface	Apr 7th, 2005 09:03:20 PM
CalVarnson, thanks for the kind response. Osmosis, thanks for reminding em of Matchstick men, which was, I'll admit, a bit of a return to form for Scott.
Face it, Orlando Bloom has ZERO charisma and is NO fucking swash by Commando Cody	Apr 7th, 2005 09:19:33 PM
I don't care that Bloom's done repeated "swashbuckling" type of movies (Lord of the Rings, Pirates, now this). The bottom line is that at 28 and pushing 30, Bloom STILL looks too much like a girly pretty boy (which I supposed is fine for some of the ladies if that's their taste) but let's be honest: the man has NO inspiring or heroic commanding presence AT ALL. Zero. Zip. Nada. Case in point, watch the trailer and even compare the juxtaposed scene of Liam Neeson swearing in Bloom versus Bloom swearing in the ordinary guy as nights and you'll see a perfectly clear definition of someone who can actually ACT and hold the screen versus someone who can't. And besides, speaking of people doing lots of "swashbuckling" movies in a row, Errol Flynn was even YOUNGER (24) when he made CAPTAIN BLOOD. Now THERE was someone you could see onscreen and say "Fuck! That guy's clearly leading man, movie star material." Bloom is a total whiney wet rag on camera. Even in the TRAILER for this he comes off like a whiny bitch. It makes my teeth rattle to even watch him for a few minutes in that, yet Moriarity thinks it would help if the movie was even LONGER? Just admit he was miscast and be done with it. Hey, I have no problem with people getting work and truth be told, this will probably open up "big enough" as a new Friday night flick where people figure they'll hit the multiplex simply to get out of the house). And thus I'm sure it will make Hollywood suits think that Bloom is a "draw" when the truth is people just figured "Ah, what the hell. In the commercials it looks big. It looks like we'll get 10 bucks worth of stuff on the big screen" and hence they'll go. But anyone thinking that people will be flocking to this BECAUSE of Bloom, because he's such a star-power draw -- or worse, because he's so "heroic" on screen -- seriously need to put down their crack pipes and seek medical attention.
TubbaGuts, by raw_bean	Apr 7th, 2005 09:25:21 PM
"But, y'know, let's all just bash the shit out of an actor before we've even seen the movie. Of course, that's the AICN Goon Squad way, isn't it? Oh, unless it's anything that stinks of the Goon Squad's precious Star Wars. Fucking fan boys kill me." Was right with you there until you got to the end. Sorry, but the talkbackers on this site are about as anti-Star Wars, (not to mention George "Luca$" as they tend to refer to him around here) as is humanly possible. ------- Really looking forward to this film. Not expecting a classic, but sounds like it should be good.
Only one man could've repelled the Muslim army - DENNY CRANE. by Big Dumb Ape	Apr 7th, 2005 09:42:23 PM
Bloom sucks ass as a leading man. Too much of a wimp. Now the Shat? Even at 70 you could see HIM repelling the Muslim forces!
Oh I doubt that it's Bloom's fault as an actor. by Noriko Takaya	Apr 7th, 2005 11:06:34 PM
If the part he is to play is badly written then it won't matter how well he can act (I offer Portman and Neeson's performances in Phantom Menace as Exhibit A). And I'm not saying this just because I want him to DO ME 'TILL THE BREAK OF DAWN!! ^_^ Aham. Anyway stop picking on "Troy" and "King Arthur" y'all- they were fine for what they were. Got 'em on DVD, too! Not every historical epic can be "Sparticus" you know. Alexander, on the other hand, was utter sh!t. I can't WAIT for the DeLaurentis version with (siiiiigh) DiCaprio; it can't possibly be worse. Meanwhile I do expect good things from Kingdom of Heaven. Toppu o Nerae!
Carrie Fisher by Shan	Apr 7th, 2005 11:44:02 PM
Don't forget she was the number one grossing actress for many, many years (until finally being surpassed by Julia Roberts) under the same criteria Orlando Bloom is being compared to Russell Crowe in terms of box office ...
You know the truly sad truth about Bloom? Big Dumb Ape is right. by Triumph poops!	Apr 7th, 2005 11:45:40 PM
Even with the joke aside, Big Ape's still right. Even in his old age Shatner is STILL fucking faaaaaaar more believable as a kick-ass "I will kill you all and defend this city" Knight than Bloom is at the prime of his life. Man, that really puts Bloom's manhood into perspective!
"ALEXANDER was my favourite film of 2004 ..." ALEXANDER was my by Malebolgia	Apr 8th, 2005 12:37:36 AM
fav"ou"rite says it all ya limey c sucker
numberface by John Anderton	Apr 8th, 2005 04:54:35 AM
You, sir, have hit the nail on the head. The opening battle in Gladiator was a MAJOR disappointment because of this very thing you describe (not to mention the Germans were complete tactical fools in the battle, but that's the script). I loved Gladiator, but would have loved it even more if I was allowed to adore the images displayed on screen, rather than having to freeze frame to catch something.
He'll pull this one off... by dr_buggerlugs	Apr 8th, 2005 06:22:15 AM
Bloom has been in big sword-fighting flicks and they've all been pretty good (apart from Troy which was ok until Hector was killed and just became aneamic after that) - I think he'll do pretty well in the role - and with that director and that supporting cast, I can't imagine it'll be any less than good. Personally, his BIG TEST is going to be Elizabethtown - it's going to be the first time a major audience see him in a role that doesn't require swashbuckling, swordfondling and big epic vistas - instead it's contemporary dramatic/comedic role (with an American accent to boot) and if he pulls that off, then I'll be convinced.
Awright, what other AICN old-timers thought of Harry's raving of by CKnightShift	Apr 8th, 2005 07:24:19 AM
No not the abortion of a Babylon 5 spinoff but the script that Paul Verhoven was going to film with Ahnuldt as a crusader named Hagen. Remembe how Harry used to write it "HAAAAAGEN!!" and how this was "the movie that Basil Pouldouris was born to score!"? That was like ten years ago.
Paul Verhoven's CRUSADE by godoffireinhell	Apr 8th, 2005 08:18:28 AM
Starring a pre-governor Arnold, based on a badass Walon Green screenplay and with music by Basil Poledouris. Also the movie that didn't get made because the studio decided to invest in Renny Harlin's CUTTHROAT ISLAND instead. One of the biggest mistakes Hollywood ever made and thank god the studio went bankrupt for it. Maybe in 20 or 30 years they'll resurrect that script (it is too good to stop ciculating) and make it with the next Verhoeven and the next Arnold and no, by that I don't mean Vin or Dwayne.
Malebolgia by godoffireinhell	Apr 8th, 2005 08:21:10 AM
Well, you almost got me. I'm from Europe, but not from the UK. They just teach us British English in school for some reason. And yeah, I'm bisexual (like ALEX) so I take no offense at being called a cocksucker. You pathetic, homophobic, AmeriKKKan Jesusfreak.
Special edition dvd of Bladerunner by godoffireinhell	Apr 8th, 2005 08:25:04 AM
You can stop waiting because it'll never happen. One of the producers refuses to agree to let Scott & Co. work with the materials again. I forget his name but basically he's had some fall-out with Scott decades ago and since he doesn't care about money (he's some billionaire) this is his way of getting back at him. He also doesn't give a shit about the fact that he's pissing off millions of geeks in the process of getting his childish revenge. That's Hollywood for ya.
Legolas by Wee Willie	Apr 8th, 2005 09:14:09 AM
What was the big deal with him? I don't recall a single line of his dialogue, all I remember is him shooting a lot of arrows. He looked pretty cool doing it, but he had ZERO personality. Even Liv Tyler has more personality, and everyone knows she's got air in her head. The reason Bloom is popular is because he is a blank, blonde, inoffensive, safe-looking, safe-behaving, unthreatening canvass upon which women and girls can impose their dime-store romantic fantasies. I'm sure he's a nice guy in real life, but if he wants to impress me (and Lord knows I'm sure he loses sleep over impressing Wee Willie, some talkback loser) but if he wants to impress me, he should play a total bastard in something.
I still don't get why Ridley Scott got Bloom for this role by performingmonkey	Apr 8th, 2005 12:34:27 PM
I've always thought Bloom wouldn't be able to carry a movie as the lead and yet here he is as the lead, but WHY?? He can't deliver a line of dialogue without it being laughable. This is OK in POTC because it works in a comedic way. In LOTR he didn't have to do much apart from the physical side, and any lines that he did have he had an excuse for dumb delivery because he's an elf. Troy was one of the piss-poorest big movies I've ever seen, and Bloom added to the shitness greatly. Fuck knows what Scott was on when he cast him. Surely he didn't think he needed some kind of box office draw. Crowe, although he'd been in LA Confidential, was largely unknown for Gladiator which helped things a lot for that film. He was much more the character rather than the actor playing the character because we hadn't seen him in much by then. The same went for LOTR. Now for Kingdom of Heaven people are just going to be thinking 'oh, an Orlando Bloom movie' and Bloom is shit so people are just gonna assume the worst from the get go.
godoffireinhell re: CRUSADE by CKnightShift	Apr 8th, 2005 12:47:50 PM
They turned that down in favor of CUTTHROAT ISLAND?!? That's it, there is no God. Or the end times really are upon us. I read the script for Crusade and it woulda been one of the most epic films in the history of anything and it's a damned travesty that it wasn't made at all but that it was thrown out in favor of that Renny Harlin crapfest... just DAMN man.
re: CRUSADE by godoffireinhell	Apr 8th, 2005 02:04:24 PM
http://www.aintitcoolnews.com/ display.cgi?id=2453
Gladiator was not that great... by CurryIce	Apr 8th, 2005 03:06:23 PM
I'll never understand why the whole world praises Scott's Gladiator as it would be a kind of a masterpiece? Sure, it started a new wave of historic-sandal-epic movies and sure it was a fine film but i'll never consider it as an awesome great classic or something. Just think of all the old classics it doesn't matter if you think of Charlton Heston or Kirk Douglas etc. They were pure magic. Gladiator was so successful 'cause it made a story placed in old history in a flashy way with much money for the young generation. In nowadays one has the feeling that all the elements in films like Troy or Gladiator are just an excuse for fight and battle sequences. Action, Action, Action. The whole mass want action. Tell me one BIG BUDGET film with ancient historic background after Gladiator which wasn't concentrated on ACTION. Yes right, there was one big effort which couldn't succeed: It was Oliver Stone's Alexander! This was the only film which tried to make a real profound film like the old classics. But i think Stone was confused to make clear what he actually wanted to tell with his film... And the academy award for Crowe was a joke. He deserved it much more for "The Insider" or "A Beautiful Mind". His performance in Gladiator was not something SPECIAL... And guess who got the award when he was nominated f
The trouble of comparison... by lindyboy	Apr 9th, 2005 04:18:18 AM
While I see why the comparisons between epics are being made here, I confess I find the Crowe/Bloom comparison in terms of BO returns a bit superfluous. Crowe was established as an action hero by the time he reached Gladiator. If one wants to be honest, this is Bloom's big opportunity to make it bigger than the single dimensions of his prior roles. Whether he can do that, though clearly in doubt, I'd still say all the condemnation of him here is a bit premature. My guess is he'll certainly come off a lot more sensitive, which annoys many, but there are still more questions for me, than answers as to his ability to carry his own vehicle.
hey, lindyboy by CurryIce	Apr 9th, 2005 05:35:26 AM
I second that.
I agree with you, up to a point, raw_bean. by Tubba-guts	Apr 9th, 2005 01:17:46 PM
While there is, and always has been, bashing of SW and Lucas on this site, it
Not sure about Bloom either but will wait and see. by krylite	Apr 10th, 2005 04:09:08 AM
Well I'm an admitted LOTR nut, and now learning Bloom was the lead for KoH(im a lotr fan, don't really follow the actors' careers!), it does sound strange to cast him in this big epic action role when he wasn't particulary impressive in Troy or PotC. Cate Blanchett was awesome in Aviator, but she was already an accomplished stage actress while Bloom practically started his first movie at 20 in FoTR. Maybe Scott in his old age doesn't care anymore(and pissed off losing the best directing oscar for Gladiator-look at his expression when Solderhead won for Traffic) and assumes Bloom will bring in the feminine bucks no matter what. Comment on CGI. Only LOTR used CGI armies the most effectively because Jackson used CGI as a tool only for his carefully prepared vision on the battles. Example, in 1997 when the small Helm's Deep miniature was ALREADY finished, he had thousands of miniature soldiers laid out to stage the battle years before filming the nightime months long shoot of the Helm's Deep stunt fighting sequences.

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