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Ron Perlman to put on the right hand of doom again! He says HELLBOY 2 to begin shooting this year!

Hell yea! by DarthLebowski	Mar 23rd, 2005 11:42:11 AM
I love you Guillermo
Oh yea and one more thing... by DarthLebowski	Mar 23rd, 2005 11:43:42 AM
no tentacles in this one please
Hellboy was lame by Reverendz	Mar 23rd, 2005 11:44:10 AM
The costumes were great, some of the setpieces were right on, but the story was ass. It left a very blah impression.
director's cut by MiserableRainGod	Mar 23rd, 2005 12:04:13 PM
I liked the first one, and really enjoyed the character of Hellboy. A fun time at the movies, ya know? I still want to see the director's cut, which apparently had some more character development or something.
In the Mountains of Madness? by Archive	Mar 23rd, 2005 12:05:48 PM
Tentastic! Beeeeezzzatch! A nice character driven piece about the descent into total bugnuggyness as the illusion we call reality is peeled away, with the delicacy of a man skinning a cow with a ripsaw! This is horror in the digital age! Show me what you got, del Toro! Go there so I don't have to! What!
I CANNOT WAIT by InZodWeTrust	Mar 23rd, 2005 12:11:16 PM
As cool and niche as Hellboy was, the sequel will be far better. Remember when X-Men came out? It wasn't that great either (don't get me wrong, I LOVED it, but the overall story was OKAY). X2 was so good that it made "X1" better when placed side by side. Bring it, del Toro, we will love it.
Gotta agree with da voicebox... by Childe Roland	Mar 23rd, 2005 12:11:45 PM
...in his assessment of the first Hellboy. Good. Not great. I bought the director's cut because I tend to buy any comic book based movie that doesn't suck ass. The DC is marginally better, but still not a great film. I will refer folks to the X franchise, however, for a case study in how a so-so-to-good film can spawn an excellent sequel. That and all the things the first Hellboy got right put this on my anticipated list.
"Hellboy was good, but not great" by MonkeyGod464	Mar 23rd, 2005 12:12:35 PM
I never get posts like this. It was a movie about other dimensions, demons fighting demons, nazis, fishmen and pyrokinetics. Just being "good" is perfectly fine to me. For the director to take such a bizarre concept and make it palpable is above and beyond the call of duty. Of course its never going to be GREAT.
Aw Hell(boy) Yeah!!! by IAmLegolas	Mar 23rd, 2005 12:33:34 PM
Cannot wait. I loves me some Hellboy.
Ron Perlman's name was on Paris Hilton's phone list.. by Dented Helmet	Mar 23rd, 2005 12:56:58 PM
And when I called him he told me to "get fucked". I love this guy.
And Harry says piracy is killing the movie industry? by mjbok1	Mar 23rd, 2005 01:03:58 PM
This is technically not off topic, because it ties directly to this thread and Harry's comments on the 3D board. Budget for Hellboy: 66 million. Domestic Gross: 59 million. I know that movies also have international BO, video sales, TV, etc. but this is why Hollywood is dying. Actually it isn't dying, but if it was this would be a good reason why. Daredevil did okay, not great, yet they spin off Electra for a movie. What happens? Poor box office. Studios are so desperate for franchises because they are easy money. Throw a Batman title on any crap and it will do hundreds of millions. For a perfect example look at Die Hard with a Vengence. A movie that I enjoyed, but it was adapted from something original to be a Die Hard. Can't Hollywood just come up with something new? Why must we have sequels to movies that didn't do that well to start with?
Dented Helmet by MiserableRainGod	Mar 23rd, 2005 01:15:20 PM
Who else did you call? What were the reactions? Did Paris have her own number in there, for when she couldn't remember it (I mean, 10 numbers is a lot to remember, right?)
hellboy was meh... by luckylindy	Mar 23rd, 2005 01:31:51 PM
Ron perlman was great dont get me wrong and ive never read any of the comics, but as a person who has not read the comics, the story felt kinda weak and was not put together that well. I guess thats what you get for an origin movie. But hellboy 2 will prolly be much better and maybe some more selma blair will get my geek juices flowing. Shes too hot and talented NOT to use.
I agree Voicebox... by MonkeyGod464	Mar 23rd, 2005 02:24:44 PM
but movies like Empire Strikes Back and LOTR are the exception not the rule in these genres. Although as a comic book fan I may have become so jaded after the 80's disasters that were Captain America, Punisher, Fantastic Four, etc. that Im just thrilled when a director doesnt completely fuck it up.
Ron Pearlman was gd in THE MAGNIFICENT SEVEN... by Fugazi32	Mar 23rd, 2005 02:41:54 PM
...new DOCTOR WHO spoiler pics: www.aintitcrap.cjb.net !
Director's cut by Right Bastard	Mar 23rd, 2005 03:16:28 PM
The director's cut added about 30 seconds to each scene, and didn't not really change the movie at all. There was one big extended scenen with fire girl, and that was about it. Overall, even with the director's cut, Hellboy was just o.k. All the actors were great, I just don't think they had much to work with. The next movie should drop the lame love story (Hellboy talking with a kid over milk and cookies!!!) and focus on the macabre that all the fans love about the character.
Hellboy is a terrible movie by AlwaysThere	Mar 23rd, 2005 03:19:11 PM
The director is a hack.
Who cares? by Bob Parr	Mar 23rd, 2005 04:02:49 PM

See now... by Childe Roland	Mar 23rd, 2005 05:08:37 PM
...on the Star Wars issue, I'd argue there's a similar dynamic to the X-Men/X2 thing going on. Objectively speaking, stacked up against other movies of the same genre, Star Wars: A new Hope is a good movie. But it's got a lot of problems that I think we're all willing to overlook because of the ground it broke and the bars it set for what was to come after. Still, I wouldn't call it a "great" film on its own merits (there's some very cheesey dialogue and some of the actors just aren't all the way there). Its sequel, however, was a great film even if you look at it compared to movies outside the genre. There's great pacing, a balance of action and character development as furthered by more seasoned, competent actors and special effects that were light years better than in the previous film and anything released int he same time period (even before Lucas fucked with it, the effects in Empire held up). I doubt I'd have the same fondness for Star Wars (and willingness to give Lucas the benefit of the doubt in regard to his forthcoming installment) if Empire hadn't been as great a film as it was. Of course, it was followed by the largely regrettable Return of the Jedi (and those other two movies I won't speak of here), so maybe the Star Wars franchise is more easily parallelled with the Godfather saga than the X-Men movies (at least until we see how badly the new director screws up 3). Regardless, Hellboy 2 could easily be better than 1 and, if Hellboy 1 was "good" or "good enough," then the sequel could actually be "pretty fuckin' good."
Hurray for mediocrity. by potvsktl	Mar 23rd, 2005 05:15:38 PM
Congratulations on your low standards MonkeyGod464. That's what we need more of in the movie industry.
I saw Hellboy for the first time on DVD last week by soulless	Mar 23rd, 2005 05:16:07 PM
it was shit!
I saw Hellboy DVD too last week as well by proper	Mar 23rd, 2005 11:08:32 PM
I was enthusiastic as I enjoyed the comics and for the most part it was ok,however the new agent subplot was boring(don't explain nothing to the normal people,drop them in at the deep end :>),it was a bit too bright for me and the shot of Hellboy running across that bridge(wirework cough)was a bit too blatant.I thought that Hellboy would be more laidback and cool like in the comics rather than a bit immature.Saying that I would like to see a sequel just to see what they do with it.Good luck to all involved.
Ugh... Hellboy sucked, this better be worth it by Scopa	Mar 23rd, 2005 11:50:04 PM
I'll probably rent this one too. I just hope I dont have to get shit faced drunk to enjoy it.
Hellboy was great, what are you all on about? by trouserpress	Mar 24th, 2005 05:31:33 AM
Sometimes I wonder about you talkbackers, I really do. I mean, what kind of person spends all their time looking at AICN and reading all those losers talkback anyway? Er, oh, er, never mind.
At Last... by Ra Ra Rasputin	Mar 24th, 2005 07:04:31 AM
...My user ID is relevant again.
"Meh" is the perfect word to describe it. by minderbinder	Mar 24th, 2005 07:52:03 AM
Sorry, I'm not willing to lower my standards just because it's a comic book movie. Especially since a couple great ones have been made recently. Studios are asking for a bomb when they make sequels to movies that don't do that well.
Constantine by Trevor Goodchild	Mar 24th, 2005 08:05:23 AM
I see a lot of comparisons with Hellboy and Constantine which I find inaccurate. Hellboy is far superior. I found Constantine very confused. Could anyone explain the plot to me. I didn't understand why the twin comitte d suicide and why hell needed them
Hellboy was good fun... by Jumpstart	Mar 24th, 2005 09:37:35 AM
But I'll only see the second if G. Del Toro is in the director's seat again. He and Sam Raimi are the only two comic-book directors I really respect. (Not that Hellboy was a great movie as great movies go, mind you. And I think Del Toro is a far better Spanish-language movie director...find "The Devil's Backbone" to see what I'm talking about--I don't think there's really any way that movie could have been made in America. BUT, I'm convinced the man just LOVES comic book movies AND as an added bonus, LOVES comic books AND has a lot of fun doing his job. Any man who comes right out and calls his deleted scenes crap--Blade II DVD--at least has a sense of humor about his work, and I enjoy that.) In the meantime, and completely off-topic, and I think I'm going to be campaigning this among this crowd...SOMEONE has to get Bruce Campbell in better movies than "Alien Apocalypse." Reality just cannot be this shitty, ya know?
RE: Trevor Goodchild by savagexp	Mar 24th, 2005 10:11:49 AM
Hellboy is a superior movie, but not because Constantine left you confused. Constatine approached the source-material in a way few films would. There wasn't a whole lot of exposition in Constantine, explaining what the hell is going on. The audience just had to go along on the ride and figure it out as they went along. Hellboy, on the other hand, had Agent Myers to play the audience roll and have things explained to him. That's why HB was easier to follow. Watch Constantine again when it hits on DVD sometime this summer. I think you'll enjoy it more the second time 'round. As for your plot questions, The baddies couldn't get to Rachel Weiz character directly, so they used her sister, knowing that two things would happen. 1) Rachel would react strongly to it and 2) That Constantine would learn about it because it was basically his turf. The sister served as a way to get the ball rolling. Some would say she was a convenient plot device, but I think she was an important element of the story.===========Back on topic: Hooray for HB2. But this is old news. HB2 has been confirmed for, like, six to eight months now.
"....Guillermo del Toro loves the character to a very creepy lev by TheWoodMan	Mar 24th, 2005 11:09:55 AM
Sorry, Quint, but... no. Clearly he does not "love" the character; in fact he doesn't even seem to respect Hellboy as presented in Mignola's comics. He took a very, very cool character and turned him into a simpering, lovestruck nitwit... a dopey fifteen-year-old trapped in the body of a fifty-something demon. Don't get me started on "Agent Myers". Ron Perlman is perfect for the role and he did a good job with what he was given; the other actors were good too and the effects people did some great stuff. Unfortunately it takes more than good casting and special effects to make a good movie, even a cheesy genre flick. Too bad del Toro doesn't have what it takes... hence he can KISS MY ASS. I despised "Hellboy" and I spit on the very idea of a "Hellboy 2". Feh.
The 1st one was just good enough . . . by Nice Marmot	Mar 24th, 2005 11:21:10 AM
. . . to get me out to see the 2nd one. Maybe they can bump Abe Sapien's screentime up to, oh, say 5 minutes the 2nd time around.
Hey man, I'm up for anything Del Toro directs by Ribbons	Mar 24th, 2005 11:46:12 AM
Point me in the direction of the nearest showing and I'll be there. One of the most interesting (or interesting to me) directors working right now.
Hellboy was fantastic by NightArrows	Mar 24th, 2005 12:44:02 PM
Hellboy was the perfect comic to movie tanslation yet. Every other comic movie out there fucked with something and therefore RUINED much of the experience. -Xmen: Sabertooth was wrecked by Singer the idiot. Wolverine starts his descent into only having chicks as adversaries. -X2: Even WORSE handling of a character, this time with Wolvie getting thrown around by uberlame Deathstrike. Worst fight ever. Good riddance to Singer, go ruin Superman. -Spiderman: First part was great, but bring in the Mighty Morphin Power Goblin and the movie goes to shit. -Spiderman 2: Was Doc Ock from Krypton? Cause it sure as shit looked like it with the beatings he took and not ONCE seemed to feel it or show it. Is he liquid metal? No he's a fucking fat doctor with extra arms. -The Punisher: Piece of SHIT pure and simple. Florida? And what the fuck was with the lame ass gay sailor that tossed Frank around? Looking forward to Fantastic Four, but I'm sure they will pooch it somewhere in the film. I have been a fan of the Hellboy since his first appearance in NextMen and not ONCE during the film did I see something that bothered me or really broke from the spirit of the comic. Bring on Hellboy 2, and the fuckwits that answered with the typical ".:insert movie here:. was shit", you can go fuck yourselves and continue beating it to shit movies like the Matrix sequels and other assorted garbage.
Empire better than Star Wars (A New Hope)? by REDD	Mar 24th, 2005 01:56:00 PM
Empire better than Star Wars? As Kramer would say "that's just kooky talk". :)
God I hope poster REDD was being sarcastic... by HavokJD	Mar 24th, 2005 11:57:21 PM
Cos if not there is something seriously wrong with you. Empire Strikes Back is FAR superior to Star Wars: A New Hope. period.
According to IMDB, Selma Blair & Jeffrey Tambor are also availab by FrankDrebin	Mar 25th, 2005 04:30:31 AM
I think the first Hellboy was like the first Blade movie, where they were just trying to find the right tone. And like Blade 2, Hellboy 2 will be better.
by REDD	Mar 25th, 2005 03:21:10 PM
Let me guess, it's superior because it's darker? LOL. Wow, "FAR" and "period", can't argue with those statements. :)
by Blair_jedi	Mar 25th, 2005 09:52:10 PM
Hellboy was okay, but I never really got into it. Ron Pearlman did a good job as the character, but other than that very little about the movie was memorable. I really could care less about a sequel.
Hellboy 1 was a good film by Solman	Mar 26th, 2005 06:30:47 AM
As a fan of the comic books and two books that preceded the Hellboy movie, I must say that I was very satisfied with the end result. Everyone involved with the film understood what worked so well in the original material and they transfered it to the screen sucessfully. The only major change that I noticed was that Hellboy had feet in the film, instead of hooves like the comic; no big deal really.
Rasputin fukced Hellboy 1 up bad... by BurnHollywood	Mar 26th, 2005 04:35:05 PM
Most boring movie villain in a long time...no motivation, no emotional development, just a bald-headed muthafucka yelling at the camera and waving that STUPID, LAME metal fist around endlessly...those supposed Lovecraftian beasties sucked the fat one, too...Gawd spare me another Hollywood script featuring some bad guy or other out to summon the ULTIMATE BAD POWER to DESTROY THE EARTH AND HUMANITY AS WE NOW KNOW IT...Hollywood, work harder for your money, you cheap bitches...
Solman... by NightArrows	Mar 27th, 2005 10:55:17 PM
I think Hellboy actually did have little hooves in the film. Check the directors cut out where Agent Myers meets Hellboy when he is lifting weights, you can see his feet and it looks like he has the hooves ;)

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