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Lisberger off making a TRON sequel, now Disney set to just... remake it...

I liked it better when it was called The Matrix. by Rant Breath	Jan 13th, 2005 05:13:12 AM
No thanks Disney, its been done to death, the whole "man trapped in a machine world" thing.
I agree Harry... by Lujho	Jan 13th, 2005 05:16:40 AM
It doesn't need to be a remake, a sequel would work just as well. And Liserger deserves to do it - it's his freaking baby. ********* It would be the kind of sequel that would almost be a kind of remake anyway, like say the second Evil Dead. Slightly different story, updated effects, new ideas and characters, but basically the same humans trapped in a computer world premise. ********* It doesn't need Boxleitner or Bridges as main characters (though small roles would be nice), and it can be its own entirely separate story, and hell, update the effects all you want but it doesn't need to pretend that the original movie never happenned, that this universe doesn't already exist in a perfectly well done form. It would be much easier ti create an interesting film if they build upon what has come before.
Every 2 years... by Heckles	Jan 13th, 2005 05:19:50 AM
talk of a Tron sequel is kicked around Hollywood. I'll believe it when I see those neon bikes.
Have to agree with Setion_Pirate by Preacher_mg	Jan 13th, 2005 05:30:10 AM
Harry, you were probably tired or something, I dunno... but this whole article is completely unreadable. As for Tron, I don't see any justification to remake it or make a sequel. Yes, it was visionary back in the early eighties, but do we need another computer generated, trapped-in-the-matrix movie? because this is what it's gonna be, no matter who is going to helm it. Please Disney, let the fans retain their fond memories from the original and COME UP WITH AN ORIGINAL IDEA for chrissake.
Hollywood Screws Itself by AtomicHyperbole	Jan 13th, 2005 05:52:15 AM
It's true. The money's in the hands of the least creative people on earth making creative decisions. The results speak for themselves... I mean, they even give scripts for films like Tron or Doom to people who either don't know or don't care for the original material. Jobsworths. And the end result is nearly always rubbish. Sometimes they get lucky, as Spiderman proved, but as Hulk proved, sometimes they don't. Hollywood = luck not judgement. It's waiting for all the elements to drop into place and nothing more.
Actually... by AtomicHyperbole	Jan 13th, 2005 06:01:50 AM
Someone tell us more about Appleseed please... http://www.appleseedthemovie.c om/ I've been waiting for it for years.
Tron story by c4andmore	Jan 13th, 2005 07:30:45 AM
The recent Tron PC game could be used as a sequel, it had a decent enough story, didn't retread old ideas, and had some fabulous set-pieces that would be great on the big screen. Plus it used some of the old characters so it had connections to the original.
Um, Harry... by Sledgeh101	Jan 13th, 2005 08:14:24 AM
the computer programmer gets trapped in a cyberworld, so that the film can utilize the Internet. Doesn't that sound a BIT too much like Lawnmower Man 2 to you?
squirrels by stvnhthr	Jan 13th, 2005 08:21:09 AM
I could never buy into the world of TRON, even as a kid I knew too much about computers to suspend my disbelief. It is like making a movie about the squirrels running in treadmills that power the family car.
I agree, Harry, and no offense, Rant Breath... by The PimpDragon	Jan 13th, 2005 08:42:21 AM
But saying that The Matrix did it first is just ridiculous. My thought about The Matrix was this: I liked it better when it was Dark City, Tron, Dune and The Terminator. Tron did the "Man inside Computer" thing 17 YEARS before The Matrix hit the big screen. I'm with you, Harry. I am very nervous of people taking a well-established world and soiling it with MTV ideas. Lisberger has many designs and ideas for the future of that world and it's a shame that Disney won't let the creator of this bankable universe have any say in its future development. To those that bash Tron - go right ahead. I happen to absolutely love the film and always have. It's more interesting than many films that have come out since dealing with similar issues or themes. Harry, check out www.tron-sector.com for more info on the Tron universe and other developments towards the sequel. It's a great site and very well-designed and maintained.
Damn! by Lord_Soth	Jan 13th, 2005 08:53:56 AM

Don't need a remake... by Southpaw Samurai	Jan 13th, 2005 09:35:11 AM
I have to agree that a sequel (which easily can be a standalone sequel) would be infinitely better than just doing a mindless remake and that Lisberger should be involved given that it is his passion and vision that help make Tron watchable today despite its relative overall quality. I do have to disagree with the rejection of newer technology that Harry almost seems to profess. If one listen's to how Alan describes Tron's functions, you almost get a description of Firewall software and the MPC gathering and connecting all the various systems easily lays the foundation for the Internet. So, Tron's world could very easily be upgraded and still fit in to the original. If you're going to name the movie Tron, though, you sort of have to include Tron and unless it's a later version programmed by someone else, it sort of requires Boxleitner for at least an extended cameo. Come to think of it...if all programs look like their makers, could you imagine their appearances? An unappealing world of Harry look-alikes, obnoxious thirteen year olds, and every sort of character in between...and what about those programs written by committee?
Who Cares, the Matrix movies sucked ass! by BigTuna	Jan 13th, 2005 09:54:04 AM
The first one was ok, but yikes those last two were sleep inducing turds.
I still prefer to think that Tron, The Matrix, The Terminator, a by rev_skarekroe	Jan 13th, 2005 10:16:40 AM

Will Captain Panaka be in it? by BNITT	Jan 13th, 2005 10:36:35 AM
I hope so. He rocks!!! Long live his cynical ass and wedged out eye!!!
Tron sucks balls like a new Missy Elliot song on MTV. by Brian_De_Man	Jan 13th, 2005 10:44:46 AM
Tron has to be the worst pile of shit that any director could make up in his head. It's worse than Dungeon and Dragons and Star Wars put together in a suck fest. If any movie could suck more than Tron.. I have never seen it but before the first 5 minutes.. you will be in a little land called YAWNville.
Steven Lisburger is the only man that should write/direct a sequ by MachinaMan	Jan 13th, 2005 10:47:15 AM
I am a bit confused here. Didn't Steven Lisburger already have Tron 2.0 ready to go at least a year ago? Why is Disney taking it out of his hands? As much as I like Tron I don't know if I will have anything to do with it if Steven Lisburger is n't at the helm (because if he isn't doing the screenplay I can't imagine that he would direct it as well, though I have received no confirmation on that end of it).
they already did the remake- it was called the matrix. by dr.bulber	Jan 13th, 2005 11:01:55 AM
i got it-lets remake the matrix.
Stop Rewarding Disney for regurgitating their library with your by Oompa_Radar	Jan 13th, 2005 11:34:49 AM
I think somehow they might get the message to stop recycling if people actually stopped paying to see it.
Hell, I don't know what you guys are worried about... by DocPazuzu	Jan 13th, 2005 11:46:52 AM
...movies about the Internet are usually GREAT! Just watch Lawnmower Man 2 and Hackers and The Net to see what I... I... Oh God.... What did I just say? BLAM! (thud)
The Seven Stages of Harry's Remake Grief by soylentphil	Jan 13th, 2005 12:19:38 PM
Stage 1: Anger at the initial announcement; Stage 2: Grumpy doubt at the first casting; Stage 3: Guarded skepticism at the first press release/statement from director; Stage 4: Guarded optimism upon the release of the first stills; Stage 5: "Kinda looking forward" upon seeing the first trailer; Stage 6: "Geeked up" after reading the first (plant) reviews; Stage 7: Full on hyperbole at the "absolute marvel" the film really is.
that's mighty disapointing stranger by Mr Brownstone	Jan 13th, 2005 12:21:56 PM
prediction: I never see you or your fucking mouse again.
Where a Tron sequel could succeed, and be just as pioneering as by ar42	Jan 13th, 2005 12:24:11 PM
...is in the use of computer graphics to create abstract beauty. The focus on nearly every CGI special effect of the last 20 years has been realism, realism, realism. Every ounce of effort has been to improve the specularity on Gollum's eyes, the particle animation in tidal waves, the movement of soldiers two miles from the camera. If TRON eschewed the drive for photorealism and embraced a fantastically abstract and NONrealistic environment, powered by the amazing speed and capability of today's renderfarms, it could do what the original did: show people something they had never seen before.
What they need to make it work by Kentucky Colonel	Jan 13th, 2005 01:08:48 PM
1) Lightcycles 2)Jumpsuits made of light patterns 3) Jeff Bridges in a cameo role 4) A boppin' tune by Journey (perhaps Lights?) 5) a real freakin' story, not a re-hash. Seriously, more Journey.
Tron and Matrix both ripped off Doctor Who by Media_Gold	Jan 13th, 2005 01:13:45 PM
Not that I don't like the first Matrix movie and Tron, but there was a story in the mid 70's called The Deadly Assassin where the Doctor was sucked into a computer-fantasy land known as "The Matrix" where he engaged a bad guy in imaginary battles. I think that Steve-o, the Wach Bros and Dean Devlin (Stargate=Pyramids of Mars) are closet Who fans.
Tron 2.0 computer game IS Tron for today, baby! by CKnightShift	Jan 13th, 2005 01:17:22 PM
Doesn't Disney keep tabs on what their own corporate divisions are up to?! Yeah Tron 2.0 made a buttload of money but didn't the Mouse House see ANYTHING but money? Like ummm I dunno how it was a FANTASTIC update to the world of Tron? They integrated the Internet, PDAs, multi-authored softwared, everything was accounted for. No need to re-create the wheel here... or improve on perfection: no remake!!
"the history of computers, the internet and how systems work" by ScienceMan	Jan 13th, 2005 01:28:10 PM
Yes, Harry, we better get up in arms that the new writers have their facts straight about the real-world working of computers and the internet, otherwise it might be hard to suspend disbelief when HUMANS ARE DIGITIZED AND MADE INTO ANTHROPOMORPHIC DATA PACKETS. It's fantasy, enjoy it and let the hard tech facts slide. Don't worry about the "science" in this one. I for one hope they don't even attempt to dress it up with any fancy dialogue. "Flynn is trapped in a DNS router! 404 Error! File not found... we're doomed! No wait... I think this pop-up ad is trying to communicate with us!" Tron was a great film. First person to market a life-size working lightcycle will be a bajillionaire overnight.
Attn. Media_Gold, re: Doctor Who "The Deadly Assassin" by CKnightShift	Jan 13th, 2005 01:35:25 PM
Some knowledgable sources on the subject have noted that "The Deadly Assassin" story on Doctor Who was in all likelihood THE very first time that virtual reality was used in TV/movies and possibly the first time ANYWHERE that the concept was ever introduced. Wonder who would have won between the Fourth Doctor and Agent Smith :-P It's prolly the most torn-up Doctor Who ever (and that's saying something: the "clown in the ground" haunted me for years for some reason.). But it's one of the best in of the show's history: first real look at Gallifrey, the most gruesome Master ever, plenty of action and humor. Great arc, though whatever sex appeal Lala Ward saw in Tom Baker after he showed off his clean-shaven legs like that, I've no idea...
to the haters by Seelbach	Jan 13th, 2005 01:45:47 PM
to those who trashed harry's writing.. what is this a school paper? to those who trashed tron. why? it's a pretty cool movie really. if it's not your thing, shut up already. you people think that by insulting everything and everyone, we will see how clever you are?
The original Tron was just a novelty... by Rupee88	Jan 13th, 2005 02:02:49 PM
...and it's hook was the computer graphics effects. At this point, CGI is obviously common, so why remake a crappy movie that had no story? I suspect if they do remake it, it will be a relatively low-budget affair and they will revamp the story almost completely. I never liked the first one, so I don't care about a sequel at all. I bet it will be a kids movie like Spy Kids.
Why make a sequel to a 1982 bomb? by BigTuna	Jan 13th, 2005 02:06:36 PM
I don't see why so many here and Harry think a sequel is the way to go. With a remake, you can now update the special effects and tell the story again. No one saw Tron when it first came out so I don't see how in this case, a sequel is a good idea.
The Tron Guy by DocPazuzu	Jan 13th, 2005 02:25:19 PM
When Tron-love goes bad: http://www.tronguy.net/TRONcos tume/
I think they should make 'Tron 2.5' with Hulk Hogan as the baddi by mbaker	Jan 13th, 2005 03:02:38 PM
They haven't built a circuit that could hold you, Brother!
Just like Wonka, another remake will suck by Jeditemple	Jan 13th, 2005 04:00:06 PM
Why is Hollywood out to remake everything? Geez...there's even a new "Poseidon Adventure" being re-made with terrorists causing the ship to turn over! @#$%!!!!!
No, Tron is not a GREAT movie but... by DoctorWho?	Jan 13th, 2005 07:11:41 PM
...it does have a vibe about it. Most films should try for THAT much. Very cool music too, though I imagine it's been ingrained into my skull from playing the video game more so than seeing the movie. This was bound to happen. Computers are SO much more a part of our daily lives than at the time they made the original. There are far more parallels to draw on. TRON was ahead of its time...maybe this will be THE definitive version. And oh yes...THE DEADLY ASSASSIN was the prototype of Tron and The Matrix. I am after all...The Doctor.
And who wants to bet the terrorists in the new Poseiden Adventur by DoctorWho?	Jan 13th, 2005 07:15:37 PM
NO WAY will they be of the Islamofacist type. That would just be too in-thensitve.
The Tron 2.0 game that CKnightShift mentioned had two cool secti by FrankDrebin	Jan 13th, 2005 08:02:23 PM
The first had a guy in the machine world helping a guy in the real world infiltrate a high security area. The other section had the machine world infected with a virus--towers of light were turning a sickly green and decaying. Here are some screenshots (scroll down for links to 8 other pages of screens): http://www.gamespot.com/pc/act ion/tron20/screenindex.html
So... by Setion_Pirate	Jan 13th, 2005 08:48:06 PM
Was it the comparison between Harry's writing and that of a 14 year old girl, or "uncontrolled fanboy orgasms" or the question of the total lack comprehensible syntax in on of the first sentences that got my post deleted. Take the heat, baby.
This only proves (yet again) that Roy Disney is right that Eisne by Commando Cody	Jan 13th, 2005 08:50:57 PM
Disney is truly fucked up in the film department, a core backbone to the corporation. If it hadn't been for Pixar saving their year yet again with the INCREDIBLES, Disney would once again have a shit filled year. So what's the brain trust to do? Take a movie like TRON and rather than advance it, move it in a new direction, as Harry says they have to REGURGITATE it, thus demonstrating yet again how much the House of the Mouse has dried up creatively. Though I'm sure the suits will argue "We needed to start it over again to get a franchise out of it." Which, of course, leads to brain dead suit decision 2: namely decide that you have in your hands a creative property that soooooo GREAT...that the first person you fire is the guy who CREATED it. Shit for brains, that's the Disney management style. Roy Disney and Stanley Gold can't get Eisner and a few other execs fired fast enough.
Freakazoid? by kdoc13	Jan 13th, 2005 10:21:08 PM
Sorry, but isn't this essentially how Dexter Douglas, nerd computer ace surfed on the internet and got sent to cyberspace? I think the cartoon was probably better than this will be. Oh well, at least I have the original.
Tron 2.0 was an involving experience with a shallow and silly st by SalvatoreGravano	Jan 14th, 2005 05:31:04 AM
In other words, it was, essentially, not unlike the film. "Fight the resource hogs!" Oh, yeah... a movie sequel - not to mention any remacrap - will be a painful experience with a moronic story. Filled with "gangsta" (c)rap and Marilyn Moronson "music", no doubt, because the only Carlos the MTVidiots would know about is probably some jackass from a "reality TV" series somewhere (Judging by statistics, I assume a Carlos has made it to one of these somewhere, with so many of them infecting every channel in every country)
another remake? by CuervoJones	Jan 14th, 2005 05:33:53 AM
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Think about it with - they could remake this endlessly, every co by RobinP	Jan 15th, 2005 11:19:03 AM
While it isn't accurate to say that the internet wasn't around at the time that Tron was made (it was, but it wasn't accessible to Joe Public - who wouldn't have had a means of seeing it anyway)the point here I think is that the march of IT progress is such that they could remake Tron every...say...20 years or so. 1982 - home computers weren't really commonplace, and wouldn't be for another 15 years. In that time, we've seen the growth and acceptance as norm of home computers, e-mail, the internet, call phones, satellite & cable, VHS, DVD, CD, digital cameras...all of these things (okay some of which were in their infancy, like VHS). Just think of the leaps we'll have taken by 2025 - when they can quite feasably make a THIRD vesrion of Tron, with the prevailing technology serving as a backdrop.
Don't know how they can do this without making it look like a ba by minderbinder	Jan 17th, 2005 03:08:53 PM
Or knowing disney, a bad Spy Kids 3 ripoff.
Alas, it is 2.5 years Later by kevinwillis.net	Aug 11th, 2007 01:01:31 AM
An no closer there to being any Tron sequel, ever. The bastards.

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