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NIP/TUCK Finale!!

Kryp/Tuck by BLADE	Oct 5th, 2004 09:38:32 PM
I mean Nip/Tuck S2. Great Season. Except for the incest thing. Way to pulled out of an ass for shcok value for me.
I like the show... by baj24	Oct 5th, 2004 09:49:11 PM
But the whole incest storyline is a little much. Too much shock value for shock value's sake.
Jump by thiscoffinsucks	Oct 5th, 2004 09:50:43 PM
This season was promising at the start. But each episode has had at least one moment that rings totally false. Kind of like the downer third season of Six Feet Under. They lost track of the blend of humor and drama that made the show a hit in the first place and sacrificed it for the next big shock... Still 100% better than most network TV shows.
rocks by BlankGeneration	Oct 5th, 2004 09:58:52 PM
This will rock ass, surprise everyone and stretch cable's sensibilities
great show by supershauna	Oct 5th, 2004 10:02:14 PM
come on Herc, give the show a break. it's no Gilmore Girls, but these boys sure do like to party. ***** seriously, I've watched every episode and it is one of my favorite shows. when it first came on I watched it for the surgeries, but I really like the characters now. I think Julia's motivations are kinda weird and the son, Matt, used to look freakishly like Michael Jackson - but I love Christian Troy. what a cad. I also like these staggered seasons, more shows should start during the summer.
Kryp/Tuck by ryLRci	Oct 5th, 2004 10:14:09 PM
and this season of Smallville was starting out so well...
Famke!!! by chase232	Oct 5th, 2004 10:37:39 PM
Famke is one of the hottest pieces of ass and that goes without saying. I have thought that since Goldeneye.
While Natasha Richardson is attractive... by FlowCytometer	Oct 5th, 2004 10:41:51 PM
Does Joely Richardson need to cry in every other episode?
Herc, as a critic you have to understand that other people have by Lenny Nero	Oct 5th, 2004 10:57:39 PM
The show is just so nasty and naughty and laugh-out-loud funny that simply bumbing off FX shows is just problematic for someone who has as much power as you. Are you honestly saying you DON'T like "Rescue Me," one of the best new shows in years?
No!!!!!!!!!!! by FiMo719	Oct 5th, 2004 11:03:33 PM
DR. TROY!
FX has the best shows on TV...deal with it by HavokJD	Oct 5th, 2004 11:05:00 PM
...and as much as I like Lost, the FX triumvirate still rules TV. The Shield, Nip/Tuck, and now Rescue Me are the highest quality shows you can catch on the small screen now. Tonight's season finale is no exception. This harkens back to the day when a season finale was a season finale, you know with closure and a good cliffhanger. TV recently has lost its balls, and Nip/Tuck like one of its protagonists, Christian Troy, has the biggest balls of them all and shows us how good TV really can be. The main networks, and the general public brainwashed by shows the half hour laugh tracks, can learn a few things from FX. How to write well, develop characters, break new ground, be daring, be controversial, have impact, and all around entertain.
oh yeah by BlankGeneration	Oct 5th, 2004 11:07:16 PM
Two brilliant twists in the last five minutes! Better than 85% of the crap on TV...
It's true by kingofkoins	Oct 5th, 2004 11:09:20 PM
This was a damn fine Season Finale. It had a very decent cliffhanger as well.
Yeah, Nip/Tuck rocks by doughboy1110	Oct 5th, 2004 11:11:09 PM
Herc, you're right, Nip/Tuck rocks some serious socks, and more people should be watching it. Let me conclude by saying that the final sequence of the finale was, well, SLASHING!
I thought the finale was kind of weak, but the ending was good by SexyBeast	Oct 5th, 2004 11:12:09 PM
The Joan Rivers B plot was completely pointless, unless it was suppose to convey some kind of message about plastic surgery. The Ava Moore A plot was uninteresting. The whole problem with the finale was that it wasn't about Troy and McNamara. The ending was good, but I hate cliff hangers. Actually it isn't really a cliff hanger as we know what happens.
BTW this is the THIRD time Dr. Troy has ended up tortured by SexyBeast	Oct 5th, 2004 11:14:09 PM
The First time was at the hands of Kimber, the second time at the hands of Jeremy Slotnick, and now at the hands of the carver. Seriously, Dr. Troy needs to get a body guard, because he apparently has a big bullseye on his chest.
That was some freaky-ass shit by A Sea	Oct 5th, 2004 11:16:09 PM
and I loved every fucking second. Great show, great finale. Next season can't come soon enough.
About the Joan Rivers thing by kingofkoins	Oct 6th, 2004 12:17:55 AM
I think it was only there to have some throwaway footage. The episode ran the full time even without commercials, which means they have things they'll cut when they re-air it. I'd say Joan fits the bill.
More posts in here than a Gilmour Girls or OC Talkback by Peter Venkman	Oct 6th, 2004 12:24:23 AM
Take that, Herc.
One of the best cliffhangers in a long time.... by NJM	Oct 6th, 2004 12:37:40 AM
Though, we now have eight months to wait for the next season - THAT'S TORTURE! The first season's finale had no cliffhanger, and really wrapped things up for a fresh start for season two. Granted, Christian isn't gonna be killed, but still, I was hoping for more Carver story progression here. I hope the pay off of this storyline is nice and juicy next season. Though, this show has yet to disappoint me. I very much like these summer run series because there's no filler episodes. Every episode moves the characters and the stories forward. I also LOVE RESCUE ME. One of the best shows ever, and I've always been a Denis Leary fan. Fantastic show. Too bad I have to miss some LAW & ORDER episodes in the process, but it's a willful sacrafice. -NJM
WTF?!??! by Han Ol' Buddy	Oct 6th, 2004 01:08:29 AM
Wait a second! Julian McMahon is going to be Doctor Doom?!? WTF? Cancel that film project, open up the studios and start working on season 3 ASAP. I liked this season of Nip/Tuck. Maybe not as much as season 1 which seemed to focus more on the surgical cases (and maybe too much on the whole drug dealer guy). It was cool to see him return in this episode though. I just hate the fact that they left everyone hanging with this episode. I really had a theory about Ava being the Carver, ala Silence of the Lambs and the whole transgender reassignment and serial killers (even though he never killed anyone). I was expecting another airport arrest finale with that security guy opening her suitcase and finding the mask. No dice. See you next year Nip/Tuck.
Holy fuckshit by Rindain	Oct 6th, 2004 02:16:19 AM
I...can't...wait...nine...mont hs...too...long... What will become of Christian? That totally freaked me out...I thought Sean was gonna shoot the Carver a new orifice, but then they shock cut to CHRISTIAN. Again, holy fuckshit.
Hmmmm by Peter Venkman	Oct 6th, 2004 02:30:09 AM
I have to say that I feel that not revealing the Carver's identity was a bit of a cop out. They've been dragging this out all season and now we have to wait another year? So I'm guessing that Christian was paralyzed while being slashed to the point of beyond repair. This is his revenge for Sean fixing his victims. Poor Christian.
No new episodes until next JUNE?!?! by DonnaDarko	Oct 6th, 2004 03:47:35 AM
FUCK! Now I have to wait 8 MONTHS before learning if Christian was anally raped or not! Famke was fabulous in this episode - she almost made her despicable character sympathetic. And to be fair, it wasn't technically an incest plot because 'she' was not Adrian's biological mom. *** Now there's a few months of boring Tuesdays before 24 and The Shield kick in!
The phoenix by Peter Venkman	Oct 6th, 2004 04:30:19 AM
did anyone else catch the "Rise from the ashes like a Phoenix" comment directed towards Famke's character? Must be an X-men fan on the writing staff. After all both Jeand Grey and Dr. Doom are on the cast.
Kryp/Tuck is a disease of marketing jerks over at the WB convinc by Redbeard_NV	Oct 6th, 2004 05:59:52 AM
makes for "cool" TV. Get real. "Charmed" has sunk it's boat by the ill witted casting of the talentless hack Nick Lachey opposite Alyssa Milano and the idea that one more "Dawsonscreekonetreehillthemou ntainFelicity" clone makes for saleable revenue. They lied to us with the "Look up" teaser for the "Smallville" premiere and promptly pulled the plug out of the balloon by declaring "Kal-El can fly! Clark Kent is Earthbound!" crap!
absurdity at its finest. by dr.bulber	Oct 6th, 2004 06:37:57 AM
now, a plastic surgeon, who works in vegas, who is really a counter terrorist agent who host a national reality game show on a deserted island, who spends weekends working in bagdad as a rock star vampire who is a mutant trying to be a good single father to two teenage daughters who are high society party girls who travel around the country with there own tv show about how brainless they are while doing under cover work for their dad's nuclear arms proliferation network would kick ass. but i still wouldn't watch it.
thank God for the Netherlands by Orange Crush	Oct 6th, 2004 08:20:03 AM
I think that every time I see Famke. I'm not "freaky" obsessed with her, but I had to stop and watch this show for the first time because I saw her on there. Honestly, she's better looking than anyone should be allowed to be. And to make a guy look like THAT Alec Baldwin's character would have had to use The Force.
The Carver by zer0cool2k2	Oct 6th, 2004 08:32:02 AM
So, I wonder if the carver is going to turn out to be anyone we know? Most of the obvious suspects have been ruled out at this point. I thought it might be Ava, or Adrian, but no. I thought it might be Kimber, but that's a little too contrived, not to mention the rape angle, which also likely rules out Gina. Surely it's not Slotnick, so Who The Hell Can it Be??? Hell, for a second there last week I thought it might be Bruno Campos, the wierd way he was acting before fixing Sean's face. Maybe that's why Joan was on there, she's The Carver. The only thing I didn't really like about the first season of Nip/Tuck was how they tied everything up in a neat little package with the season finale, and left no conflicts for season two. Well they sure as hell left things hanging this time around.
New convert to Nip/Tuck by daph26	Oct 6th, 2004 09:03:15 AM
So I have stayed away from this show for a few reasons. The main one being I wasn't that impressed with the pilot episode. But with nothing on last night but the boring VP candidates debate, I decided to watch. Plus I was hoping to find out who The Carver was. This show is deranged...but now I'm thoroughly hooked and am going to go rent season 1 immediately and hopefully catch season 2 in reruns this fall. Now, since I'm new, don't flame me, but is it possible that Matt is The Carver? I don't think it's a woman based on what I've seen, plus the rape thing. So if there was going to be a major cast member, wouldn't that leave Matt? The only other possibility I can think of is it's some patient that Sean and Christian screwed up or couldn't help years ago and now they're out for revenge on everyone. But that would be lame. Is it also possible that the last part of the episode (or the whole episode for that matter) was a dream or hallucination? Again, I'm new to the show, so I don't know how the episode last week wrapped up after Sean got cut up by the Carver. But I was watching the episode and it seemed very dream like (but that could just be the way the show looks in general), so I thought maybe this is all in Sean's mind. Just a few thoughts. Would love to hear what loyal watchers think.
OY VEY by cocolopez	Oct 6th, 2004 09:28:43 AM
It was amusing to me that Joan Rivers felt that her simulated natural aging features would have made her look like ET- because the way she is now is like some monster that Tim Burton dreamed up. The longer her screen time stretched the more I realized that her face looked like a pumpkin with some horrendous mask pulled tightly over it. I felt at times like her head was just going to fall off- she's just ghastly. Aside from that- Nip/Tuck was at least as good as the first season this year- if even less believable- here's a small list of complaints- 1. Did Ava REALLY have to be a guy? We spent all season thinking how bad we wanted to bang her- only to be thrown this hideous curveball... 2. Shillinger from OZ with breast implants- I wasn't feeling that at all... 3. What happened to Sean and Julia's daughter? She had like two minutes of screen time this whole season- other than that ridiculous "Princess Menses" thing- and jeez was that even season 2? 4. Do something to Matt's features to make him look less like Michael Jackson- fercrisssakes... 5. Maybe start showing a little less of the exaggerated soap opera cliches and focus more on the business aspect and Troy/McNamara's competition? Like another Bobolit... Other than that- good shit... Not HBO- but not regular broadcast TV either...
Troyture by zer0cool2k2	Oct 6th, 2004 10:00:28 AM
Actually, Christian has been tortured four times. The three mentioned above, as well as the time the drug smugglers Botoxed his balls.
I hope this show don't go down the shitter since Ryan Murphy is by Goon Bighead	Oct 6th, 2004 11:49:12 AM

Nip/Fucking/Tuck by Ruffus	Oct 6th, 2004 11:50:54 AM
Awsome...Season finale...very good writing, nice closure (or not) of the Julia/Sean...Christian..should fucking change should get better securtiy for his house...Come one...don't go SOPRANOS on US! Come back in DECEMBER
best show on tv by mag7man	Oct 6th, 2004 12:12:35 PM
Sure it's a guilty pleasure but week after week it never fails to surprise me and usually leaves me with my jaw dropped. As fot 'The Carver', it never occured to me that he has to be someone we know. I just thought of him as just one of your random everyday serial slasher. He does seem to have a talent for gettinginto locked residences.
Seeing Ava kiss Adrian last night....I almost puked...( knowing by Big Bad Clone	Oct 6th, 2004 12:12:51 PM
Oh and Alec Baldwin was a delight
The Carver is... by Childe Roland	Oct 6th, 2004 12:24:53 PM
...that facial expert Christian had flown in from elsewhere last episode to repair Sean's face. I don't know how I know that, but I do. They spent too much time on his charity work not to make him evil. As for the show, it is naughty good fun and one of the three or four best shows on TV right now (and, Herc, Gilmore Girls may be #5 on that list, but Rescue Me and The Shield are definitley worlds better television than that). Julian really is kind of a pussy for a guy who works out as much as he does and is clearly holding in a lot of childhood rage. You'd think he'd put up a fight against one of the many people who've tied him up and poked him with pointy implements over the last two years.
First Timer by Homer Sexual	Oct 6th, 2004 01:04:50 PM
Last night was the first episode I ever saw and I really liked it. I felt sorry for Ava, actually, to have had a sex change to win Alec Baldwin's love, only to (predictably enough) lose him anyway. Then she's hooked up with their "son." All very trippy and interesting, loved it. Also loved Joan Rivers subplot. I didn't realize how much surgery she has had. Trippy! Loved the episode, but I have a feeling all other episodes will be a let down after that show.
Herc? by Peter Venkman	Oct 6th, 2004 04:07:30 PM
Come on, Herc. Where's the snide comments? Nip/Tuck obviously has a big fan base on AICN. First you pick on Farscape, now Nip/Tuck, Rescue Me and The Shield. one episode of the Shield is more entertaining and riveting than an entire season of The OC.
My guess... by underscore_only	Oct 6th, 2004 04:15:31 PM
I missed the finale, dammit. Tha last ep. I caught was when Sean got cut. So my guesses for the Carver are Julia's new boyfriend or the charity doctor who worked on Sean's face. Have either been ruled out?
Spoiler by Peter Venkman	Oct 6th, 2004 04:22:17 PM
Ok, here is the spoiler They did not reveal who the carver is. Sean set a trap for him to come to his home, complete with cameras and a gun. Unfortunately the Carver went to Christian's place and paralyzed him in his sleep with a syringue and then proceeded to slash his face (off camera) so we have no idea how many times Christian was slashed and whether or not anyone will find him in time to save him. Hopefully, knowing Christian, he had some broad there that was in the bathroom or something and will call the police...
Ryan Murphy rivals George Lucas... by Christopher3	Oct 6th, 2004 05:22:04 PM
In terms of bad dialogue, that is. "Rise like a phoenix"? Gag.
I also thought the Carver might be Julia's new bf. But it's just by Big Bad Clone	Oct 6th, 2004 05:50:50 PM

The Phonenix dialogue by Peter Venkman	Oct 6th, 2004 05:58:52 PM
That was a wink to Famke playing Jean Grey in the X-Men movies, stupid. I turned to my wife last night during the show and said, "Hey, Dr. Doom just banged The Phonenix. And it's a man, baby!"
Call me crazy by BillEmic	Oct 6th, 2004 10:19:27 PM
Hey, I haven't seen the season finale yet so this may have been ruled out...but I always had the suspicion that the Carver was Famke's son. Just the way he acts (cold, detached) and some of the cuts they did, where they talked about the Carver's work and then would cut to him (the son) doing something.
"The Carver" by Maverick1LA	Oct 6th, 2004 11:11:56 PM
For those paying attention, my money is on Julia's new boyfriend, played by D.W. Moffet to be the "Carver". He has all the inside info on the new McNamara home security system and that Dr. Sean now has a pistol. Besides they showed his face with Julia in the "previous episode" intro for no other reason except that... F/X rules! Between "The Shield", "Nip/Tuck" and "Rescue Me", F/X has three of the best dramas on TV today.
Famke by Quallf	Oct 7th, 2004 01:30:16 AM
How can you miss the Phoenix reference? Was that on purpose or what?
The Face Of The Carver by Cheif Brody	Oct 7th, 2004 04:28:36 AM
The Carver's face was revealed in the first episode he appeared in back in Season 1. Here's a link to a screen shot of him...back before he started wearing his mask. www.glasser-design.com/niptuck .html I thought the finale was brilliant and I can't believe I have to wait til June '05 to see what happens next!
Cocolopez Complaints by Cheif Brody	Oct 7th, 2004 04:45:04 AM
Sorry, Coco...Your complaints about the show this season are tedious. 1. Why did Ava have to be a man? Hideous curveball? Sorry...If you step up to the Nip/Tuck plate, you better be ready for lots of curveballs!! The show thrives BECAUSE they lead you down paths and then rip the rug out from under you. You want boring and predictible? Nip/Tuck ain't the show. 2. OZ's man-tits episode? Again...That is the recurring theme of the show. That the folks coming in to the Troy/MacNamara office looking for the perfect fix to their lives...seldom ends up fixing anything. I thought that episode was very compelling. 3. Where is Sean & Julia's daughter...Annie? Hey...this is TV land. Everybody Loves Raymond has 3 kids on that show. When was the last time you saw any of them? Nip/Tuck is an adult show with very complex, adult subjects addressed...(including a young child's first encounter with a period). I don't blame the writers on the show for not shoe horning the little girl into every episode. If her character is not needed...they leave her out of these adult situations. Sorry, Coco...Your complaints seem rather petty to me.
Hail to the Chief by cocolopez	Oct 7th, 2004 09:12:46 AM
Chiefbrody- you don't have to apologize- my complaints weren't stated to impress you- I don't even know who the fck you are! But in all seriousness- It's cool if you want to be an unquestioning Pavlov's Dog when it comes to your favorite shows- but you don't have to tell me about Nip/Tuck's curveballs- I've seen every episode so far- and though it's one of my favorite shows- the curveballs are in the vein of an overexaggerated soap opera- anyone who disagrees needs a reality check- but that's why I like this show- It's a guilty pleasure in which I can check my mind in at the door- for more cerebral viewing I watch The Wire, Carnivale, etc... My small list of complaints on Nip/Tuck aren't big enough to make me not enjoy/watch the show- That being said Chief- go suck on a hairy dik!
by HOB	Oct 7th, 2004 05:21:48 PM
Hey i dont think anybodys mentioned that the man-tits guy was also JJ Jameson in Spiderman!!! Yea someone in Nip/Tick must be a fan of comics...
Damn what a freeaky show.... by HOB	Oct 7th, 2004 05:22:08 PM
Hey i dont think anybodys mentioned that the man-tits guy was also JJ Jameson in Spiderman!!! Yea someone in Nip/Tick must be a fan of comics...
It's one of the few shows I watch with my wife, too. Addictive, by JDanielP	Oct 9th, 2004 02:34:37 AM

Coco es muy loco by Cheif Brody	Oct 15th, 2004 03:24:02 AM
Hey, Coco...I'm still not impressed. Too bad you couldn't think of anything more "cerebral" than "go suck a hairy d*ck"...You really let me down, Coco.

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