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I never watched this show but it sounds funny. Oh well. NOW WH by aceattorney	Jul 13th, 2004 10:22:46 AM

FIRST!!!!! by ECUPirate71	Jul 13th, 2004 10:23:19 AM

it's as if the housemates missed last season altogether by punkystar	Jul 13th, 2004 10:29:33 AM
one wonders whether any of the "alliance" members saw last season at all. the voting public punished rich voss kind of severely last year, pretty much just for being a shady jerk... america loves its underdog. Heffron '04!
re: last season by gtrandall	Jul 13th, 2004 11:08:25 AM
I don't think they punished Vos that much...I think the vote was split and Dat came out on top. Besides, Rich has more of a career than the "winner" last year. The only time I see Dat on a stage is when other comics are making fun of him.
The only people truly punished last year... by TempusFugitive	Jul 13th, 2004 11:19:34 AM
... were the viewers, by being subjected to week after week of Dat. I was relieved to see Ant ditched so as to avoid having to listen to his tired crap every week. I had been a Gary Gulman backer until last week, when his roast went over flat. He clearly beat Ant in the showdown, but he's not going to last. Boddens performance at the roast was great, and showed that he should be around for a while yet. Heffron and Holcomb are holding their own, though Corey did a crap job on the roast. I predict the next to go will be as follows: Jay, Gary, and Tammy.
Jay London is very, very defeatable in front of the right audien by Chastain-86	Jul 13th, 2004 11:26:18 AM
Conversely, in front of the right audience, Jay London can be unstoppable. It depends entirely on whether or not the audience gets on board with his "poor man's Steven Wright" delivery. I would wager that Jay London would kill in front of an audience of college students, but not so much in front of an audience of regular joes. His comedy depends on wordplay, and your enjoyment of that depends solely on your education level. I wish Jay a long and illustrious career, but he really doesn't stand a chance against Alonzo Bodden, John Heffron, or Cory Holcomb. And while I'm on a roll, there are a lot of people who are afraid to take on Kathleen Madigan, but honestly, the woman's got little else beyond name recognition going for her. She's probably the most beatable of those left, and I wager it won't take long for people to figure that out.
LCS by The Dracut Stomp	Jul 13th, 2004 11:32:39 AM
Jay London's a funny dude: "What do you think of my overall look?" But just because he's witty with a play on words and a pun doesn't make him the best, though I think he's probably the smartest comic in the house despite the cavemannishness. For my money, the two funniest people have all ready been kicked off: Todd Glass and Bonnie McFarlane. I don't get how Bonnie could have lost to Heffron. The guy's a lightweight. Ever see Bonnie M. on Tough Crowd? She's pretty damn funny. She's probably, after Sarah Silverman, the funniest female comic out there, not to mention the hottest. That's my opinion, anyway. Todd Glass is funny. Ever see him on TC? Hilarious. But he screwed up with his act at the showdown. At least ANT is gone. That guy just wasn't funny at all, regardless of being gay or not. My bet's on Alonzo, though I could see Ms. Madigan slipping by by keeping quiet and keeping a low profile.
Gary Gulman's roast by MadThespian	Jul 13th, 2004 01:02:02 PM
Am I the only person that thought Gary Gulman's roast was funny? I found it to be pretty good, with some great moments. Sure it was crude and crass, but anybody who's ever watched a Friar's Club Roast before knows that they can get pretty crude and crass.
Holcomb, Heffron, Bodden, London by Krillian	Jul 13th, 2004 01:39:25 PM
From what I've seen, Corey Holcomb is the overall best. Heffron is #2, Bodden is #3 and Jay London is #4. After that it doesn't matter. Kathleen has yet to wow me, Gary's showdown was weak; he's just lucky it was Ant he was up against. Tammy keeps doing the same thing. I wonder why the comics aren't allowed to be at the showdown. Perhaps they feel it gives the other comics an unfair advantage to see others' material?
agreed by punkystar	Jul 13th, 2004 01:53:36 PM
drac, i'm with you: bonnie and todd were easily two of the funniest comics on the show, by far. if tough crowd is any indicator, they were both robbed. i STILL cannot believe that hack ant was on the show after the first two weeks. none of his material was even slightly funny. NBC brass handpicked him for drama's sake, obvs. he should've been the first to go, then jay, then tammy. and they KNOW it. that's why they allied-up. lame.
the talkbacker who said jay london's act is for intellectuals is by JoeStokowski	Jul 13th, 2004 02:38:06 PM
anyway, i agree that bonnie and todd were the funniest (i went ape shit when bonnie left first). but since they're gone, i'm rooting for heffron, gulman, and madigan (in that order). despite what everyone is saying here, gulman's roast was hilarious ("who the fuck is norm crosby?"), and his determination to take out ant deserves respect. as for heffron, his act is definitely the tightest/funniest of the bunch, and his performance at the roast was admirable. it was well written, but his delivery is too idiosyncratic for a friar roast. tammy sucks. jay london sucks. corey's a nice guy, but his act sucks. alonzo's act relies too heavily on "the difference between white folk and black folk..." type bullshit which is cliche and sucks. and i've seen madigan's act before, and while she hasn't been particularly funny on the show yet, i know she can beat almost everyone in the house except for heffron (it'd be close). but is anyone else extremely disappointed in her for voting with the alliance? she's better than that.
the talkbacker who didn't have the stones to call me by name is by Chastain-86	Jul 13th, 2004 02:56:20 PM
See how easy it is to throw up a title that has nothing to do with your post? Regardless of whether or not you like London, he appeals to a certain type of crowd. I didn't say it was intellectual humor. I said it will appeal to people who want a poor man's Steven Wright impression, and I stand by that. A password to talk back isn't a license to act like a prick. Learn some civility.
Chastain-86 is a snobbish prick. There. Is that better? by savagexp	Jul 13th, 2004 04:09:05 PM
You stated the following: "I would wager that Jay London would kill in front of an audience of college students, but not so much in front of an audience of regular joes. His comedy depends on wordplay, and your enjoyment of that depends solely on your education level." And now you state this: "I didn't say it was intellectual humor." So which is it? Jay, like Ant, is a one-trick pony with a certain shtick and all of his jokes are about it. The difference is that Jay is very self-deprecating, which has always been funny. To say that one's understanding of wordplay depends on your education level is elitist. I'm 23. I have a good career, a nice house, an amazing wife, and I consider myself rather intelligent. Evidently, though, since I don't appreciate Jay's "I'm in the Beyond Department" jokes; I need to go back to school. It's one thing to tell a person "You don't get it." It's another to say "You don't get it because you're not smart enough." Fuck off.
Next episode by mascan	Jul 13th, 2004 06:10:47 PM
I guess Jim Norton got off easy ... can you imagine him trying to do his act to a bunch off kids? The lil' tykes would be traumatized for life! And Jimmy might have tried to pick up a couple of them, too. www.eatabullet.com
Jay London (like Johnny Carson) is actually funnier when he's bo by FrankDrebin	Jul 13th, 2004 07:46:21 PM
His desperate asides when things aren't working are gems. ("This is DEATH!", "There's no need to take notes, Mr. Little.") But everyone here is right that a schtick based on one trait (being, gay, being black, being Sicilian) won't carry you in the long haul.
Gulman vs. Bodden ("The Fracas In Las Vakas...er, Vegas") by FrankDrebin	Jul 13th, 2004 07:57:47 PM
It seemed like Gulman came out of nowhere last week to take the lead, but that's because he was always writing new material, while all the other comics were chasing face time with the cameras (dishing about the other comics, or boring us with their life story). But Gulman's weakness is his performance--he was fidgety, stumbling over punchlines and laughing at his own jokes. Bodden, who seems like the one in second place at the moment, has a very assured delivery and can think on his feet. If there's an improv challenge, Gulman will lose and Bodden will take the lead... This is Marv Albert, in leather, out.
Another reason why Ant got the boot... by FrankDrebin	Jul 13th, 2004 08:11:33 PM
After the tour bus challenge, Ant seemed unbeatable. Now, if you were on the show and thought Ant was the best, you wouldn't want it to come down to a final match between you and him. Instead, you'd team up with the remaining comics to get rid of him early. (In other words, instead of going after the weakest comics first, you go after the strongest ones, while you still have allies left.) And then there was the fact that he was the most obnoxious one around the house, after the singing guy ("I want attention!") was kicked out.
Roasts by jeeesus	Jul 13th, 2004 09:04:09 PM
I know that Gary was crude, but that's what Roasts are all about. I don't understand why people are so dissapointed in him, he was good at it. If you go to a Roast, you'll see that usually, the comics are much more dirty than he was. But that jesus Ant is gone, damn that dude wasn't funny. I think the person that's going to win is Gary, I don't know why, but I feel like he can smoke these fools. (ha.... I said smoke those fools).
Actually, that talkbacker was right you are an idiot. by Peter Venkman	Jul 13th, 2004 09:45:27 PM
see above.
Opinions are like assholes ... by JohnnyFriendly	Jul 13th, 2004 11:17:26 PM
It's wild that in even this relatively light talkback we've probably got at least one comment for each of the comics naming them the funniest ( except Ant -- I know what you mean ... he sucks !) Here's my rundown ( as of this minute ) Bodden: Funny but a bit cliche'd and among the weakest stage personas in the house. Heffron: Material is strong but I keep thinking that vocally he sounds like a less hysterical Bobcat Goldthwaite. Cory: Funny w/ a good, likeable stage character - could be a dark horse ( no pun intended ) contender. Gulman: Showed us something these last 2 weeks and his roast was hilarious, even moreso because it was "blue". Madigan: She's got a rep but has yet to show us how she earned it - she's laying too low. Last but least Tammy: If she were as funny as she is ambitious ( or stacked ) she'd have it in a walk but her material is 'meh' and her accent gets real old real fast. I'm just sayin' is all.
Tammy Pescatelli looks like.... by Steven Credible	Jul 13th, 2004 11:45:18 PM
I swear, Tammy Pescatelli looks like the female version of Jeff Goldblum. It's uncanny. And quite frightening. Slightly arrousing too...
I saw Jay London BOMB a couple of years ago by Horseflesh	Jul 14th, 2004 06:24:06 AM
Once he's lost an audience they are GONE and he doesn't have a clue of how to get them back.
Tammy Pescatelli is NOT funny. by squidman	Jul 14th, 2004 07:36:56 AM
Once she is forced to defend herself in a challenge she will LOSE! She was chosen initially by the producers because she is an attractive young woman with "attitude". Not necessarily because she's funny. She's a typical female, attacking everyone's "manhood" because they won't get down in the mud with her and conspire. I applaud the comics in the house-setting who keep to themselves about who they're challenging and still manage to keep themselves interesting. "Be a man, none of you are men" translates to "Tell me who you are challenging so I can form some kind of plan of my own." Sorry to see Jay London go. I'm guessing that it's for the best for him. He deserved to go futher, but I'm thinking that he's not cut out for the whole conspiracy-laden, back-stabbing format these shows tend to inherit as the season progresses.
The Truth About Tammy by Harrys Man Boobs	Jul 14th, 2004 09:35:42 AM
Is that I would bang her rotten. Yeah, she's got that voice and a big nose and the attittude, but she's also got a certain something that makes me horny. That said, I think that Heffron is the funniest one left, however, I think one of the black dudes is going ot win.
Can't we all just... by TempusFugitive	Jul 14th, 2004 10:19:43 AM
...get along? Errr, or at least agree to disagree? What's funny is definitely one of those things that depends entirely on who's watching. I still think Gulman is very funny, but his delivery is off, and that was what bothered me the most about his roast. On the other hand, he was CLEARLY better than either Ant or Jay in his head-to-heads. But I do think that that was due to the fact that Ant wasn't funny, and Jay's style really isn't suited to this sort of show. I laughed my ass off at some of Jay's stuff... but some it fell really flat. He's a really clever guy, but just wasn't working for the audience. Frankly, I don't know if I could watch him do a 1/2 hour. It seems almost too painful. As far as Madigan goes, she's a funny, established comedien(ne)... but she hasn't show squat on the show. I still think Heffron, Bodden, and Holcomb have shown themselves to be consistently funny, moreso than the others. Now, can they come up with challenges that are actually entertaining to watch? I mean the friggin' tour bus thing was stupid, and last nights clown act was just plain painful to watch.
savagexp: I'm sure Dicksmack #1 appreciates your defense of his by Chastain-86	Jul 14th, 2004 10:50:29 AM
Who rang your bell, monkey boy? Anyway, if you do a little research (that's the thing you can do on Google when you're not surfing porn, by the way) you'll see that studies have been done on the types of jokes people find funny. Overwhelmingly the research has shown that males of college age and education level find wordplay to be the funniest form of comedy. Forgive me not providing a cite. I'm sure you can type words into a search engine as easily as I can, although considerably slower I'd wager. In any case, "snobbish prick" might correctly identify me in some instances, but that certainly is better than "uninformed jackhole with too big a mouth and too little brainpower." Which, sadly, seems to fit you to a T. By the way, congratulations on the house and wife.
I passed Dat Phan on the Atlantic City boardwalk a couple months by Trav McGee	Jul 14th, 2004 11:09:14 AM
True story, tho not really much of one. It was about 1 or 2 in the morning, my friends and I were walking one direction and he was walking the other. Didn't recognize him at first, just caught the corner of my eye as someone familiar. You know, that "Did I use to work with that guy..? Was he the roommate of my friend who went to a different university that got drunk with us three or four times ten years ago..? Or does he just look like that guy I used to work with..?" type of familiar. Not enough to say "Hey man, how you been!" Besides, he seemed to be hitting on some chick about a foot taller than him, and half a pace in front of him, which told me he wasn't doing so well at it. His face banged annoyingly around in my head for about a hundred yards when it finally clicked, Holy Shit! That was that "comic" Dat Phan! Funny, we hit just about every casino in town that weekend, but never saw an ad that he was working anywhere. No "Winner of Last Comic Standing, tonight at Bally's!" turnpike billboards. I guess there's smaller clubs around A.C. he was probably working, but still. Point is, unless he was on vacation it sure didn't strike me that his career's gotten a super-boost from the ol' LCS. ...I've got it. He can get the role of Comic Ethnic Sidekick to The Next Action Star! Then he could do the pidgin accent without having to impersonate his mother. Call your agent, Dat, made-for-cable stardom is a touch-tone away.
Tammy by DukeOfSpiders	Jul 14th, 2004 01:39:48 PM
Tammy Pescatelli is actually very funny -- she was on the Bob and Tom Show a couple of weeks ago talking about the way the show is being edited to make her look bad, how the execs demand a certain percentage of the material from each of the comics to be from their earliest audition every time -- and she wondered, on the show, why they showed the old material when her new material apparently killed. She's often on Bob and Tom and usually very, very funny on that show. It's rather obvious they're editing the stuff to make her look like the evil bitch.
Trav Mcgee- by RenoNevada2000	Jul 14th, 2004 02:04:32 PM
When you realized it was Dat Phan did you go back and put a quarter in his cup besides the sign that said "Will tell hacky jokes for food"?
Tammy and Dat by mad_musashi	Jul 14th, 2004 04:33:54 PM
I work at one of the most prominent comedy clubs in L.A. and have had the privelege to know most of the casts from both seasons of LAST COMIC. They are editing Tammy to look like a bitch. SHE IS A SWEETHEART in person. NBC is only showing you the "character" that they want you to see. I've never experienced negativity from any of these people, they are great comics, and treat everyone around them with respect and kindness. And for all of you Dat haters out there, I can only say one thing. Screw off! He's a great guy. If you get a chance to see him and you hang with him a bit, he's the most down-to-earth human being who is thankful that he has a chance to earn a living doing what he loves. And let me leave you with this nice bit of advice that'll undoubtedly send you into even more fits of hysteria: he makes approximately $30,000-40,000 a month on COLLEGE TOURS ALONE. This isn't counting corporate gigs or casinos. Just because you haven't seen him advertised and abused by the mainstream media doesn't mean he isn't a success. How many of you knew who Seinfeld was before he got the sitcom? Did you know that he was pulling in $100,000 a show BEFORE he got his production deal? Yet, he was only a success after ten million people could point him out in a lineup. Haters, all. Don't be jealous because he's out there doing what you can only fantasize about. Get off of your lazy asses and try doing some standup before you judge the cast of the show. Or better yet, stop into the L.A. comedy clubs and see for yourselves.
Mad musasi- by RenoNevada2000	Jul 14th, 2004 05:07:33 PM
I'm willing to believe that there's some rather "creative" editing going with the show. There's practically a cut after every sentance or two, so you know there's things being pulled way out of context. It's something you have to keep in mind while watching the show. I'm thrilled that Dat seems to be a nice guy and hasn't let his sudden good fortunes go to his head. However, it still doesn't change the fact that I think most of his material sounds like stuff Margaret Cho threw out of her act 15 years ago. I'm sure if Mother Thersea told a hack joke it would still be a hack joke. And for the record, I remember Jerry Seinfeld all the way back when he played the chauffer on the second season of BENSON.
Dat's a great guy by TempusFugitive	Jul 14th, 2004 06:27:02 PM
I'm sure it's true. He certainly didn't seem to come across as anything BUT a hard-working dedicated individual. BUT, telling people not to judge a stand-up comic unless they've done it themselves is absolutely ridiculous. By definition, their job is to perform in such a way that the people watching them judge whether or not they are funny. He simply was NOT as good as others on the show last season. Was he better than I would be? Certainly. That does not invalidate my opinion. The material we saw last year was cliche and borderline funny, abd it was the same every time. Similarly, I'm SURE there is creative editing going on to make "conflict and suspense" where it might not exist. And I'm sure Tammy is also a very nice person. It's also clear that she's playing the game as much as anyone on the show. Her comments about finally being happy and at peace in the house when Bonnie left shows that she's not all sweetness and light. I think she's got potential to be really good. But what we've seen on the show does not place her above many of the others.
mad_musashi - educated opinion by punkystar	Jul 14th, 2004 06:27:42 PM
since you're pretty well-versed in all the comics and their acts... would you mind giving us your educated opinion about who's funniest and whether anyone else, besides tammy, is being unfairly edited?
Fair enough, and I never begrudge anyone their successes by Trav McGee	Jul 14th, 2004 06:52:20 PM
But I still say he was striking out with that chick. ...So, what's your professional opinion of ANT, then? That I gotta hear. ...And for the record, I've been digging Tammy's material on stage, what I've seen so far. And not just because I can't tear my eyes from that glorious decolletage, though that does keep me rooting for her to stay in the house.
GARY GULMAN AS SUPERMAN?? THINK ABOUT IT... by DJSLASH	Jul 15th, 2004 12:00:57 AM
This is a way off topic, but If GARY GULMAN can act (and if only), Gary might be a very interesting choice to play the next Superman, besides having the right build, height, and good looks, he has the humor and a nice likeable quality thet Chris Reeves had. He should at least be able to audition. Next show look at him and see for yourself.
Not that anyone's still reading, but when Gulman walked out and by Fatal Discharge	Jul 15th, 2004 11:23:53 AM
they were obviously predisposed to vote for the "pretty boy" with the chiseled body rather than the cro-magnon. I personally prefer Jay London's stylistic delivery and though Gulman had a good set, there was no way he deserved to be chosen funnier by 89%!?!
gary by manhattom	Jul 15th, 2004 06:37:56 PM
i've seen him open for dane cook twice, and he's been hilarious both times. he does a really long bit about cookies, and a long bit about pepsi calling themselves "the cola." i think his humor is a little abstract for the mainstream. by that, i mean that dat phan was an idiot.
Heffron killed!! by ChaserHimself	Jul 20th, 2004 10:25:24 PM
If anyone is still reading this.. Heffron blew both Alonzo and Corey out of the water with his set in my opinion. Perfect delivery and uproariously funny even though I think I've seen the dog part on Comedy Central one time. I don't understand how Alonzo (whose sketch I thought was just ok for him) still got more votes, but its fine since John moves on anyway. Hopefully Todd Glass will win the wild card.
I also thought Heffron was great by Big Jim	Jul 21st, 2004 09:08:51 AM
Although I felt Alonzo had the edge because he seemed more relaxed on stage. Heffron seemed to me to be talking just a bit too quickly. He seemed to be rushing it a bit. But I felt he deserved more votes than what he got.

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