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Whedon_Teleplays With ANGEL 5.22!!

LAST! by Bamf-a-roo	Apr 13th, 2004 03:19:24 AM
Err... heheh. Anyway, good to see Joss helping out with the "finale" (I'm still hopeful we'll get an 11th hour surprise renewal ) Some nice guest stars coming up, thankfully SMG is nowhere NEAR the list. The little primadonna can go off and make more bad horror movies for the rest of her career for all I care.
Sad to see it go... by Tenken	Apr 13th, 2004 03:20:33 AM
but atleast it was able to live a good life as a series, unlike other shows... I'm interested to see Boreanaz's role in the Firefly film, he would make a great villain--
It's good to see Julia Lee get work by DomisInnerChild	Apr 13th, 2004 04:05:28 AM
I was worried that last we'd see of her was as "Another Hot Girl" in Grind. Maybe the best rack to waist ratio in the Buffyverse.
Whatever happened to.... by MKiro	Apr 13th, 2004 04:46:35 AM
...the lady cop who appeared frequently in the first 2 series of Angel (I've forgotten her name)? I don't recall there being a story that finished her character. It just sort of petered out.....
JW penning the finale by Frank_Serpico	Apr 13th, 2004 05:13:12 AM
Fucking hell . if JW is penning the finale then it could end up sucking ass as bad as "Chosen" did !
err? by Fantomex	Apr 13th, 2004 05:27:53 AM
I've seen every episode of Angel and don't recognize half those characters...
Herc, lay off the hard drugs, or at least share by raffish	Apr 13th, 2004 05:48:42 AM
"'A Hole in the World,' almost certainly the finest 'Angel' tale ever produced"? Oh, I get that. That's sarcasm, right? I really, really hope so. In fact, I will assume so, and will therefore withhold my diatribe about how much that episode SUCKED PRETTY MUCH BEYOND BELIEF and caused me to lose respect for The Whedon to a greater extent than I'd thought any single episode could. (But hey, even gods are entitled to a few off-days.) All I ask is that you maybe flag the sarcasm better next time, so that those of us who are reading after midnight won't be forced to do a double-take. Thanks!
Julia Lee/Anne by Prof. Pop-Cult	Apr 13th, 2004 08:17:25 AM
I always thought Julia Lee/"Anne" would have made a good addition to the cast. And I think Anne and Gunn would have made a better, more believable couple. Ultimately, Fred felt contrivingly cute and a character Whedon created as a hetero version of Willow, a female character type he seems fixated on, quite frankly (look at Firefly, as well). I wonder in the end if even the actress who played her, Amy Acker, became tired of Fred and her Fred-ness.
Anne's from ANGEL not Buffy by SpeakerWiggin	Apr 13th, 2004 08:24:25 AM
And what's wrong with "A Whole in the World" Twas an AWESOME Episode. Lornes jerk reaction to Fred's song was PERFECT.
Angel was shit and the only thing good about buffy was sarah "sc by jigga422	Apr 13th, 2004 08:38:20 AM
or wait ... was that a dream? nah is somehing whedon would write.
Cheer up lads... by Drunken Fugitive	Apr 13th, 2004 08:39:10 AM
at least ya still got the DVDs... and thank Joss that SMG aint anywhere in sight... bit surprised Willow wont make an apperance... i woulda rather seen Xander instead of Andrew but ya get that... JS out
Newsflash by JT Styler	Apr 13th, 2004 08:48:59 AM
The Styler here. Just want to clear up a few things. Firstly Anne is from Buffy. She was Chanterelle in Buffy season 2's Lie to Me and as Lily in episode 3.1 called Anne. She then crossed over to Angel in season 2. Please don't argue because I'm very, very right. Secondly, A Hole in the World rocked, Chosen was one of the best finales EVER and Joss Whedon's involvement in Not Faded Away is all good. Peace out, folks. The Whedonverse - The Styler salutes you.
Anne by zer0cool2k2	Apr 13th, 2004 08:52:51 AM
Actually, the character of Anne was introduced in "Buffy", although she had different names at the time (Chantarelle, Lily). I also thought "A Hole in the World" was one of Angel's fine moments, not necessarily it's ultimate ep though. I'd have to put last season's finale near the top, as well as this season's "You're Welcome". And I've always loved Spike's guest shot in the first season where he's mocking Angel's heroics as he rescues a damsel in distress ("Angel-mobile, nancy-boy hairgel"). ................. BTW, anybody know anything about this sitcom starring Charisma Carpenter that UPN has apparently placed an order for?
SMG by JT Styler	Apr 13th, 2004 08:57:02 AM
PS. Could you guys stop acting like SMG owes you anything? She doesn't. Her absence from the Angel finale is annoying but not insurmountable. The fact that she's not on the DVD extras is a pain. But she's not obligated to do any of that. What she was obligated to do was to give us 7 great years of entertainment, she did that and I remain greatful. Now get over it. Don't take offense guys cos this is simply my opinion. I'm out.
I stand corrected, and gladly . . . by SpeakerWiggin	Apr 13th, 2004 09:35:09 AM
I forgot that Chantrelle/Lilly/Anne (taken from buffy's middle name) were the same person. Now THAT'S quality character development!
Aw. by Waterson	Apr 13th, 2004 10:08:02 AM
No Sahjahn?
I agree about Kate by amrcanpoet	Apr 13th, 2004 10:38:50 AM
I think that's poor character development. It's not like a Whedon show to write-off a major character after 2 years, and the NEVER bring them back. I understand her character went as far as she could as a full-time player, but to not bring her back at least once? I may have missed an episode, but I do believe she's been completely forgotten!
RE Policewoman Kate by Rapmaster C	Apr 13th, 2004 11:01:37 AM
She wasn't simply forgotten. I thought she decided to leave because she didn't want to be a cop anymore. Her and Angel had a talk at the end of season 2's episode "Epiphany". That was the episode with Lindsey's awesome attack on Angel with a pickup truck and a sledgehammer. Nice guy.
I'll tell you what happened to Kate by jmratliff	Apr 13th, 2004 11:07:49 AM
The actress who plays Kate moved on to one of the "Law & Order" shows. That's the main reason you never saw her again, she moved on out of the Whedonverse.
No Gwen or Lilah? by Christopher3	Apr 13th, 2004 11:23:55 AM
Oh well.
actually waterson,Sahjahn appears in episode 18. by allnamesaretaken	Apr 13th, 2004 12:08:41 PM
When he gets killed by Conner.
Kate by zer0cool2k2	Apr 13th, 2004 12:26:46 PM
I liked Kate, and I thought the actress who played her (Elisabeth Rohm) made a better cop on Angel than a DA on Law & Order. However, I kinda' felt like she was shoehorned into Angel, and never fit well. If she'd stayed around maybe they could have worked it out, but oh well. It made room for Fred, which is good in my book.
Kate ... by jgsugden	Apr 13th, 2004 12:37:26 PM
Both JW and Elizabeth (sp?) Rohm wanted to bring Kate back for one more episode. JW had important plans for her as a character in the Angel series that had to be adapted for other charcaters (Cordelia) when Kate went to the DA's office (note - this is my hypothesis, it is not supported by any inside info). After adapting her storylines to Cordy, there was less of a reason to bring her back. I'm sure they would still have liked to do so to provide some closure for the open ended stuff that they had begun with her character, but scheduling of the shows never allowed for it. I would not find it incredibly unlikely to see her make a small appearance in a future Buffyverse story (film, spin-off, maybe even a comic).
Great news hearing that Joss will be involved in the finale by Whedon	Apr 13th, 2004 12:52:48 PM
And "A Hole in the World" should definitelly be considered one of the best episodes of ATS in its entire run. This season thus far being the most enjoyable from my perspective. Can't wait to see what Baldwin is going to bring to the table, finally a new Angel this wednesday its been way too long. Can't wait
Kate's fate by jinX	Apr 13th, 2004 05:26:05 PM
Actress took a fulltime gig on Law and Order and Wheedon doesnt believe in recasting "major characters"...the only exception I can think of being Principal Wood's mother, the Slayer Nikki.
Jast Say NO to Baldwin's by Trik	Apr 13th, 2004 06:59:30 PM
Pleas no more Baldwin parts. ... And yes I know he isn't one of the brothers. ... I'm just sick and tired of fk'in Baldwin's
I'm going to miss it by cooper2000	Apr 13th, 2004 07:08:08 PM
The first half of this season sucked big time but they seemed to start writing stories that flowed and not the Monster of the week crap. Sad to see it go though. This means more reality shows next year. Ughhh! So why in the writings above is it written like it is for unBuffy/Angel fans telling us which episode each character was introduced. Thats stuff we can find out from an episode guide.
CONNOR!!! by Diablo77	Apr 13th, 2004 09:01:17 PM
Nobody seems to have noticed that annoying butmunch has somehow weedled his way into the final episode.... Call me cycnical, but it makes me VERY wary about the show finale...
Temporal Reset Button stolen from Trek ends up on Angel? by Electric_Monk	Apr 13th, 2004 10:59:17 PM
From the ever reliable TVTome: Time Bomb -When Illyria's powers become unstable and cause her to erratically jump through time, she learns that the gang intends to kill her. Upon returning to the present, Illyria plans to murder everyone before they're able to attack her. To save everyone's lives, Angel goes into the past with Illyria to alter the course of events.....So, maybe Fred does survive.
fucking Connor!!?? by sTalking_Goat	Apr 14th, 2004 01:11:30 AM
I agree, that shit does not bode well. On a more upbeat note. Anyone catch The Shield tonight. Mackie's wife has a nice ass....
Bringing Fred back at this point would be weak, no matter how it by Johnny Smith	Apr 14th, 2004 07:25:33 PM
...and would cheapen the brilliance that was "A Hole in the World". That is all.

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