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Adrien Brody to play big hard-boiled egg that looks at a pretty face then cracks up & goes sappy in KING KONG!

Where is the Peter Ustinov obit on this site? by JAGUART	Mar 31st, 2004 06:50:41 PM
Lentulus Batiatus passes away and this site has no fitting tribute?
Interesting by F. Kafka	Mar 31st, 2004 06:52:51 PM
My interest for this movie is officially piqued. Adrien Brody is a good actor and Jack Black rocks. This could be a great movie.
TRUST TEH PJ by Daddylonghead	Mar 31st, 2004 07:01:40 PM
I mean, Sean Bean? Sean Astin? Obviously the man knows his shit. Brang it on!
That Batmobile pic, this Jack Black casting...if these things we by Terry_1978	Mar 31st, 2004 07:03:19 PM
And Harry missed Ustinov AND Ron O' Neal's death a few weeks back. Geez!
yeah... but will Adrian be french kissing the monkey by super Cucaracha	Mar 31st, 2004 07:13:06 PM
Splash on your face!
High like Cheech by super Cucaracha	Mar 31st, 2004 07:18:41 PM
it's Adrien. Man, that was sticky with no seeds.
Now there's a plausible bit of casting by 007-11	Mar 31st, 2004 07:49:48 PM
Adrien Brody, really good actor, no suprise here. How will he and others bounce off Jack Black? That should be interesting.
Peter Jackson's a fucking HACK!!* by Blue_Demon	Mar 31st, 2004 07:50:02 PM
There you go iTyler. *yes I'm kidding.
I am now very excited about Kong. The casting of Brody is no Jo by grillskill	Mar 31st, 2004 07:52:37 PM

Well, this seems like better casting, but I would've gone with t by screenplaywriter	Mar 31st, 2004 07:52:41 PM
I mean the Jack Black casting is absurd and downright awful, but this I'm actually "O.K." with. It seems to me Peter is trying to make these 3 stars grow bigger in stardom. I mean Jack Black is known, but still not too known, so is Adrian, and Naomi. They've done films, but they're still unknowns with some people, now Peter will give them a big, broaden chance at bigger stardom such as what he did with Viggo Mortesen, Billy Boyd, and Elijah Wood. But however I would've casted Jude Law, Nick Stahl, Russell Crowe, Harrison Ford, Eric Bana, Orlando Bloom, Johnny Depp, or someone along those lines, but hey Adrian Brody is a good pick!
Kong will not climb the Empire State Building in this version... by El Backo	Mar 31st, 2004 08:13:48 PM
...instead he will scale Adrian Brody's nose. P.S., I can't fucking stand Jack Black. Thank God hot-ass Naomi's in this.
Question to the talkbackers: How SMART should Kong be? by zinc_chameleon	Mar 31st, 2004 08:19:51 PM
And I mean it, guys. Some of you are professional writers. This is King Kong after 'Jurassic Park'. First: Old T-Rex and Kong have been living together on that island for decades, probably. Why would Kong cross into T-Rex's territory? It's got to be because Kong sees Ann Darrow in trouble, and breaks his usual rule about staying out of T-Rex's territory. (After all they don't eat the same food.) So their battle has got to make some sort of ecological sense, not just be exciting. The best solution is to make a 25-foot tall Kong who is a cross between Homo Robustus and Gigantopithecus: lots smart than a chimp, but not as bright as a modern human. And at the end: the old ending has Kong messing up all the way. Hell, even the T-Rex in 'Lost World' was smarter than that! Kong should be good at camouflage, improvising weapons, etc. Homo Robustus could kill a giant hyena by nailing it between the eyes with a rock. I want to see a Kong that almost figures a way out of New York, but stays because he thinks Ann Darrow is in trouble. Really make it Beauty killing the Beast. Another prayer sent to movie heaven...
Now this IS Cool News! by morGoth	Mar 31st, 2004 08:22:57 PM
Outstanding! I raised an eyebrow at the Jack Black announcement but this is a definite positive. Lucky bastige...I bet he gets to smooch up Naomi Watts! Ex-o-lent!! Oh yeah, nice write-up Harry {[:^)
depressing by Blood T Cat	Mar 31st, 2004 08:30:34 PM
This Black-Brody thing is depressing the shit outta me. What's wrong with casting men? Surely Kurt Russell could do Denham and Jason Patric could be the drunk guy.
I doubt Kong would be a total nimrod by Terry_1978	Mar 31st, 2004 08:43:24 PM
He's got to have some kind of intelligence going on, as the natives worship him for some reason. Once he gets to N.Y., he'd more than likely be calm and collected thanks to his lady love, but it'll be the idiocy of the people around him that'll make him go over the edge.
How smart should talkbackers be? by Stan the Bat	Mar 31st, 2004 09:16:24 PM
Did that guy seriously just write that Kong's battle with the dinosaur should not merely be exciting, but should also make ecological sense? fan
Talkbackers are smart, Stan. by zinc_chameleon	Mar 31st, 2004 09:32:23 PM
Because 'Quest for Fire' is a classic film, as well as 'Jurassic Park'. The kind of primates I'm talking about were not only stronger than we are today, but they were faster, with better hand/eye coordination too. Every remake of a classic scifi or horror film has enhanced the speed and intelligence of its monsters. Witness 1979's 'Dawn of the Dead' vs. last week's version. Ditto with Godzilla (though I don't like to enen mention that in this context), and finally the Aliens, which you can compare to the lumbering 'It, the Terror from Beyond Space'. Kong will be much more interesting if we use the million more things we know about primates past and present that they didn't know in the 1930's. Like the fact that orangutans can pick locks better than most humans, and can add, subtract, muliply and divide numbers if you teach them visually. I want Ann Darrow to really like Kong. I've got this image of them bursting out of the forest into a clearing, Ann wearing all flowers, riding on Kong's shoulders (having a perfectly fine day), then Jack Driscoll decides he has to save her. That's 2004 style.
Homo robustus ???? by HungryJoe	Mar 31st, 2004 09:38:48 PM
What the hell is that?!
Attention Peter Jackson Haters: Please Don't Beat Off In Anger by atomheartbrother	Mar 31st, 2004 09:39:52 PM
it's not becoming and frankly i'm embarrased for you all. you know his movies aren't rubbish, and you know deep down you thought those damn lord of the rings movies were pretty cool; but it's this silly anger that worries me. and bitching about the casting of kong is just a waste of time. maybe jackson will get a few more academy award winners involved in what's sure to be the second most anticipated movie of 2005. come on now, stop wanking off with anger in your heart! and try watching porn next time, ya sick @#$%s.
He sounds like Kenneth the badass mail clerk with a heart of gol by Tall_Boy	Mar 31st, 2004 09:45:27 PM
"Oh yeah, that sailor gives half his paycheck to Orphans. ORPHANS WITH DISEASES!"
In PJ we trust NOT. Brody instead of a George Clooney or Kurt R by Big Dumb Ape	Mar 31st, 2004 09:45:30 PM
As if the Jack Black casting wasn't crappy enough (as opposed to a Deniro or Spacey who would have ruled the role) now for the heroic Driscoll lead instead of casting someone like George Clooney or Kurt Russell (a suggestion someone made above that rocks) Jackson goes with a wimpish figure like Brody? Wow, the complete SUCK factor of this movie only continues to grow. Harry was more right than he mentioned that KONG could end up being Jackson's HOOK ala Spielberg -- that is, a property he loved so much and got so close to, he lost all vision of what still made a good movie. This is shaping up to be one shit movie. And when you come down to it, do we really NEED a Kong remake to even begin with?
Another Interesting Choice (interesting = good!) by odysseus	Mar 31st, 2004 09:54:54 PM
In yesterday's Jack Black Talkback, I made a bunch of suggestions for Discroll -- and none of them were Adrien Brody. PJ's got vision; that's why he makes great movies. I, on the other hand, write documentary programs for channels like HGTV!
A more realistic and handsome Kong by zinc_chameleon	Mar 31st, 2004 09:56:14 PM
I just checked. Nobody is exactly sure just how smart Gigantopithecus would be--they've only found the jawbone, not the cranium--but he's the direct ancestor of the smartest primate of all, the orangutan. Check out this page: www.uiowa.edu/~bioanth/ giganto.html Just make Kong about 18 feet tall, and weigh in at about 1600 pounds. Not impossible, but definitely more interesting when he gets mad. Sorry, I couldn't find any Homo Robustus drawings, the closest were his descendant Peking Man.
So he's another crusty depressed seaman, I get it already by braine	Mar 31st, 2004 09:59:26 PM

Oh, That's Rich - Harry, He of 2nd Grade Grammar Skills Pointing by hipcheck13	Mar 31st, 2004 10:08:22 PM
...check the skies, my friends. The end of the world approaches.
Deac Speaks... Brody? well sure he's cool... Naomi Watts!?!?!? M by Deacon	Mar 31st, 2004 10:10:41 PM

Talkbackers are smart? Have you been READING this stuff? by Stan the Bat	Mar 31st, 2004 10:10:59 PM
(I'm getting a real kick out of the fact that your 'talkbackers are smart' post was immediately followed by a post from a guy who seems to feel uncomfortable about 'homo robustus' 'cause it's got 'homo' in it.) -What I was objecting to is the tendency to inject science into fantasy to make it "more realistic". You'll accept the idea of a five-story-tall ape, right? You'll accept the idea of a battle between a five-story-tall ape and a dinosaur, right? So why in the fuck would you want the battle to "make ecological sense"? IT'S FANTASY. It requires the willingness to suspend disbelief; if you don't want to play, go home.
IF IT AIN'T BROKEN, DON'T FIX IT by horseloverfat723	Mar 31st, 2004 10:18:17 PM
if it aint broken, don't fucking fix it! but even talented filmmakers like Peter Jackson are giving into this industry carbon copy formula of remakes.. fucking typical. I am willing to give it a chance, and keep an open mind, because it IS peter jackson for christ's sake, but come on...he could be doing something much better, like original material OR THE HOBBIT!!!! thats all i have to say.
Because Stan, this way is more interesting... by zinc_chameleon	Mar 31st, 2004 10:19:40 PM
And cinematic. Imagine the new battle scene: an 18-foot tall, 1600 pound Kong taking down a 40-ft tall 3 ton T-Rex, while a pack of raptors is trying to rip off Ann Darrow. (In the original it was some version of the dog-dinosaur cygnathus, but raptors will get the audience going.) Kong alone against T-Rex and a raptor gang would have the audience jumping out of their seats. Not too mention how impressed Ann would be.
FUCK INDOMITABLE SPIRIT by JoeStokowski	Mar 31st, 2004 10:21:23 PM
i liked them better when they were FLAT TOP TONY AND THE PURPLE CANOES.
Okay- NOW we're in the realm of fantasy. by Stan the Bat	Mar 31st, 2004 10:39:21 PM
An 18 foot Kong "taking down" a Tyrannosaur twice his height and weight? News flash: encounters between single chimpanzees and leopards do NOT end with the chimpanzee doing a savage yet triumphant victory display atop the torn body of the leopard. Chimpanzees, when they hunt, mostly pick on colobus monkeys 'cause the chimps are twice their size. So if you want to make a scientifically-well-grounded King Kong movie, the scene with the dinosaur is going to have to be a lot less "cinematic"- think Kong scampering up a tree and trying to scare the dinosaur away by screaming and flinging shit at it. (Come to think of it, a shit-flinging scene in a King Kong movie would get my dollar...)
Orions Angel: "I think it's realistic, life isn't only full a pr by Commando Cody	Mar 31st, 2004 10:41:45 PM
I understand where you're coming from, Orion, defending the Brody casting choice with your notion that he symbolizes the "average man rising up" but the way I look at it KONG is anything BUT an average story. This is supposed to be a grand scale adventure movie that's LARGER than "average life" -- much larger -- and I think it should thus have at least a larger than life hero as well. If anything, this is exactly the type of movie where you DO want the dashing heroic lead, not the somber "average looking" actor. This IS where you can get away with the "pretty people" being cast -- hell, that's why you have Naomi Watts in there. Going by your quote, how realistic can you be -- or want to be -- in a movie about a freakin' 50 FOOT TALL APE that scales the Empire State Building and swats at biplanes while clutching a screaming girl? I could see the Jack Black casting simply because you might want a younger, more carny attitude to that role. The notion Harry brought up about a "Bring 'em back alive" persona that's out for a buck too could fit Black's acting style, so I'm willing to give him a chance in the role (though I agree with others that the pre-hype we all heard that someone like DeNiro was being considered had me excited me far more. He would have been perfect.) Sorry, but since KONG is a larger than life adventure movie I want Driscoll to be an ABOVE average heroic lead. Brody is average all right...unfortunately, he only brings an average level of excitement to the screen. Sheesh, I hope WETA doesn't shit up the effects on this. Otherwise this is shaping up to be a far lesser film than I hoped for. I'll still see it, but my enthusiasm for this thing is waaaaaaaaaaay down right now.
Peter Jackson's every whim by SeaHawk	Mar 31st, 2004 11:01:51 PM
Dude, every little move Peter Jackson makes is gonna make headlines. Just because he impressed everyone with LOTR he has won over every critic's good side. I don't think Harry would have the nerve to bad mouth a casting call in this film. We're all spellbound to see what is next out of this film. An alternate ending? A homosexual Kong? Who knows but tune in to find out the review behind Peter Jackson's latest move...his motivation to order out pizza
boring. by TheGinger Twit	Mar 31st, 2004 11:15:38 PM

Holy hell Zinc Chameleon you are a genius! by screenplaywriter	Mar 31st, 2004 11:17:20 PM
I'd actually like to see that scene of Kong being pitted between a T-REX and velicoraptors than just rehashing and redoing the original scene from the classic "KING KONG" movie. Now, sorry to go off the topic, but speaking of dinosaurs I hear there's going to be a "JURASSIC PARK 4" next year. Do you think there'll be aquatic dinosaurs in the next one? Personally, I think if they brought back the Pteranodons, the Spinosaurus, got rid of the raptors after what Joe Johnston did to them, brought back the T-Rex one last round, brought in a Carnotaur, and brought back the Dilophosaurus. I'd be very happy, but that's just me.
What? Adrien Brody in Piano????? by stackpointer	Mar 31st, 2004 11:36:50 PM
You mean The Pianist.
HAD to post by Madigozhin	Apr 1st, 2004 12:09:35 AM
I check this site every day but I've never been moved to enter the TalkBacks before. Congratulations, you've actually moved me to get off my ass and register! I can't believe what I'm hearing from some people here. An 18-foot Kong? No, no, an 18-foot prehistoric caveman who throws rocks between the eyes of the T-Rex to take him down! This isn't Mighty Joe Young (they already remade that into a crap film) and this isn't Encino Man (needs to be remade into a crap film). This is King friggin' Kong, and if you don't understand the power of that mythos then you shouldn't be posting here. Some people seem only interested in showcasing their useless knowledge of primates in front of a group who couldn't care less, but in the process they are betraying the fact that they aren't fans of Kong at all. If you weren't a fan of the original Kong, chances are you won't like PJ's version either, so enough with the Homo Erectus nonesense. Kong is a 50-foot gorilla, and if that bothers you, then go pitch your own screenplay about the little orangutan that could. Because you're right, that scenario is oh so much more believable in the 21st Century. Oh, and as for all this casting stuff, I'll be content so long as the end result is that the original film gets a DVD release as well...PJ has his work cut out for him.
Casting mistakes... by Kraken	Apr 1st, 2004 12:11:32 AM
I mean come ON!! Rudy to play Samwise??? That pretty boy kid from North to play the most important role of any fantasy movie ever??? Liv Tyler (some no talent rock star's kid) and the guy from Sliders playing elves and dwarves??? What is this guy thinking??? Oh wait...
I won't bash PJ by GypsyTRobot	Apr 1st, 2004 12:31:19 AM
if he does a version of the lost giant spider scene. Just put 10 versions of Shelob in a pit eating people, it'll be great. Also, I second that eco-realistic scene of Kong fleeing up the tree from the T-Rex -- as long as the flinging is done in stop-action animation. Does Harryhausen have a cadre of apprentices? Or will the Wallace & Grommit guy have to step in and save the day? On the other hand, the claymation Raisins do look rather fecal...
Some of you probably haven't noticed that the wall paper to this by TheGinger Twit	Apr 1st, 2004 12:31:42 AM
thats what the point of the chick is... to settle him down.
By the start of production, this cast is gonna be stacked by Ribbons	Apr 1st, 2004 01:02:24 AM
That's what $1.5 bil domestic and more Oscars than you can shake a cross at does for ya.
is it going to be black & white? by ElGuapo	Apr 1st, 2004 01:36:37 AM
that would be nice, don't you think? give those weta f/x the "man who wasn't there" grading and it would look fantastic.
YAAAH! Peter Jackson sucks and King Kong sucks! Grow up, geeks! by heywood jablomie	Apr 1st, 2004 02:01:47 AM
This site was choked to death with Lord of the Rings bullshit for years and years. Now this fat geek goes and remakes another turd unremembered from all AICN male readers' collective 11-year-old past....and WHO FUCKING CARES? Give us more Kill Bill 2 clips, or some damn thing.
Harry, R U directly payed by Mr. Jackson? by Lord_Soth	Apr 1st, 2004 02:27:01 AM
These casting news are shit.
Anyone else notice that the amazon.com links are no longer being by Jon E Cin	Apr 1st, 2004 02:33:39 AM
YAY! I think Adrien Brody is perfect! I am not a fan of the original King Kong really..not sure if I even seen the original in the past 15 years..but I am excited about this. PJ has a great pride in making movies!
Homo Erectus! Ha ha ha! by Fitzcarraldo2	Apr 1st, 2004 02:56:01 AM
I love that name. Homo... Erectus... Anyway I agree that Kong should behave in a realistic simian manner. Apart from the shit flinging whenever I see a monkey or ape in the zoo they seem to be masturbating or hooting sadly to themselves and trying to fuck the floor.
APE-ril Fools!!!!!!! by vekt0r	Apr 1st, 2004 02:57:24 AM
HAHA get it? I'm funny!
I'm all set to enjoy this... by CellarDoor	Apr 1st, 2004 02:58:27 AM
So long as Kong doesn't do a bullet-time assisted spin-kick on t-rex then this'll be great.
it's THE PIANIST motherfo.. by quantum_ken	Apr 1st, 2004 03:08:44 AM

Just put some fur on a Cave Troll by vekt0r	Apr 1st, 2004 03:20:55 AM
and call it a day.
I'm glad somebody's finally mentioning SUMMER OF SAM by JimmyRabbit	Apr 1st, 2004 04:05:32 AM
That movie needs some more love.......
by MrGortner	Apr 1st, 2004 04:19:30 AM
Will Rick Baker reprise his role as King Kong as he did in the 1976 version. PJ should hire Rick's expertise as a consultant on this remake, as we all know his an expert in gorilla behavior. Ray Harryhausen would be an obvious choice to make a cameo apperance in this new King Kong remake.
I'm sure Peter Jackson is thrilled... by Microsaulxp	Apr 1st, 2004 04:47:23 AM
... that you like the casting choice Harry. That is the most pretentious piece of writing I've ever come across! Huge fan of the original King Kong but wouldn't dare to claim to know what a character in the new film is or isn't. Man you're full of it sometimes!
talkbackers dumb as a monkey by mr j	Apr 1st, 2004 07:23:09 AM
monkeys can subtract and add,pick locks? lol are u simple,who would have taught the ape anything ,he does dumb things like falling off buildings after swiping at planes ect. he's stuck on a primitive island ,so he'll know nothing but his own enviroment ,king kong is a fish out of water story in it's purest form. brody and black both good sign ups ,interesting casting rather than by the numbers.you have only to look at his lotr casting to see that he doesnt mind bucking the trend ,and it paying off.keep the faith ,lets not forget this film will live and die on its effects work and look as much as casting ,although if the casting works thatll lift it into Classic- standard rather than just a great remake
i really dislike this casting by Mentok	Apr 1st, 2004 07:58:30 AM
I don't mind Brody as an actor, he's fine, but I think he's all wrong for the lead in this thing. Incidentally, I never had a problem with any of the casting in Rings, so I'm not the type to cry foul whenever any news comes up, I just think this is a mis-step. Don't forget, Viggo wasn't Peter's first choice for Aragorn. Hopefully the same thing will happen here.
Casting George Clooney or Kurt Russell would be like . . by Dolmes	Apr 1st, 2004 08:37:39 AM
casting Jeff Bridges and Jessica Lange . . . . .hang on. This is going to be such an unHollywood remake it's perfect. It's indie film at it's best!
They missed the boat on Carl. by DinoDeLaurentiis	Apr 1st, 2004 09:38:01 AM
C'mon... Bill Murray IS Carl Denham. You know it's true.
"He's tough as nails, having spent his entire life aboard Engleh by Mentok	Apr 1st, 2004 10:30:15 AM
Yeah, that's not quite what I think of when I look at Adrien Brody. Bad "popular at the moment" casting.
Brody's character by Fitzcarraldo2	Apr 1st, 2004 11:30:01 AM
If he's spent his life on a ship surrounded by men why would he be interested in the girl? He'd have an anus like a wind tunnel.
That Bill Murray suggestion is brilliant. by Mentok	Apr 1st, 2004 11:52:14 AM
Also...aren't all anus's wind tunnels?
Costume designer for the movie by knightrider76	Apr 1st, 2004 11:56:13 AM
will be Ermenegildo Zegna hahaha
Could be worse. It could have been STUART TOWNSEND by knightrider76	Apr 1st, 2004 11:57:58 AM
I just saw LXG on dvd and laughed at his hammy acting. Thank God Peter fired him right away. HE SUCKS!
BUT... by godric	Apr 1st, 2004 12:38:19 PM
in a fight between cavemen and astronauts, who would win? That's the real question.
what about "Legend of King Kong" script from 70s by daviswhite	Apr 1st, 2004 01:52:55 PM
I was not too impressed with PJ's original KK script from a few years back. So, I've been searching for the unproduced 1975 screenplay "The Legend of King Kong." This was the version knocked-out of production by Dino's lawsuit. I have only heard good things about this treatment. Any links to it out there?
not into it by Cory849	Apr 1st, 2004 02:05:29 PM
Neither King Kong nor Green Hornet should be remade. And I love Kevin Smith and Peter Jackson by the way. But really - I see no real demand for either project. I see Godzilla and Dick Tracy part deux.
Even when great filmmakers attempt to remake an ALREADY CLASSIC by Fatal Discharge	Apr 1st, 2004 02:46:31 PM
Just look at the Coen Brothers version of the classic The Ladykillers. Tom Hanks said on a talk show that no-one's seen the original....grrrrr that just pisses me off! This generation of kids who each have their own tv's have so many channels to choose from that they are never going to take a chance on an older or let alone a black-and-white film and as a result we Gen-Xer's and anyone older have to put up with shit remakes of already classic films which are NEVER as good as the originals. Plus, I think a post-9/11 film where the final scene takes place with a New York skyscraper and planes will cause major distractions to an audience. If Jackson is planning to use that added emotion to intensify the audience's sadness for Kong's death...that would be very shameful. I can't even imagine rewatching the previous King Kong remake which actually included the 2 World Trade Center towers...creepy.
I'm starting to get excited for this movie by Dragonfire	Apr 1st, 2004 04:26:35 PM
I never even saw the King Kong movie and the only kong I cared for up till now was Donkey Kong, but this movie sounds like it's going to be pretty good what with the cast PJ's getting together.
by mr j	Apr 1st, 2004 05:10:03 PM
pretty sure early treatments have this set in the 20's 30's new york.thus avoiding any 9/11 issues,dont think its been done for that reason ,just more in keeping with the original.
Adrien Brody is in the piano? by Trachten	Apr 1st, 2004 05:22:11 PM
Well, I guess he's skinny enough to fit. Can't see him ever matching this description though: "... the drunk on the brine of the sea man that's known nothing but the hard love of the ocean. He's tough as nails ..."
Mentok.... by MisterGrimloch	Apr 1st, 2004 05:41:28 PM
what do you mean "hopefully the same thing will happen here?" Viggo utterly sucks as Aragorn, and its obvious why Jackson would have passed him over initially. he can't act, period. of course, 90% of the cast of LOTR pretty much blew anyway, with the exceptions being Lee (who was moronically edited out of the horrid ROTK) McKellan, Holm, and Sean Bean. Hugo Weaving was tolerable, but the rest, especially the Hobbits, were attrocious. and Gollum, while comical, was hardly worthy of awards, as so many have insisted, and some even having granted him (the MTV awards are a real iconic item to brag about, eh?) it would appear that AICN will post non stop about this next idiotic "project" of Jackson's. between Naomi Watts, and Jack Black, it would appear that this film is headed straight down the shitter, if it wasn't in there from day one.
What's this about a hard-boiled cracked egg? by Christopher3	Apr 1st, 2004 06:20:12 PM
I heart Naomi Watts.
Groovy Golem, that's genius. Casting Bill Murray as Denham WOUL by Commando Cody	Apr 1st, 2004 09:49:32 PM
Wow, great idea. He would have been perfect as the older adventurer now jaded and looking for one last shot at glory or simply making one last financial killing. Murray would have ruled in the Denham role. GREAT idea, Golem. Oh, yeah, Brody still sucks ass as the choice for the leading man. Can he act? Sure. But the role's supposed to be a heroic looking sailor -- not some wimpish figured guy who you can't even believe could haul ANYTHING heavy around a freight ship, let alone take on a 50 foot ape.
My hopes (?) for King Kong by zinc_chameleon	Apr 1st, 2004 10:27:59 PM
The reason I raised a few questions about the world-building in this movie was precisely because this time Peter Jackons isn't working with the Mercedes-Benz of fantasy (LOR), he's working with a 1933 film that I knew had plot weaknesses when I saw it at 8 years old. Let's examine a few: (1) why would Kong give a hoot about a tiny little blonde, staked out in the middle of Dinosaur Alley? Would you (a human, I'm supposing most of the talkbackers are) cross the street for a midget female chimp? In 2004, if I don't know Kong's motivations, he just isn't interesting. He's just a big dumb ape. Kong is meant to be Everyguy; we have to see how he connects to Ann Darrow, and how she latches onto him. That's always been the real love story/tragedy of King Kong. I can understand a Guy so in love with a woman that he'll go to his ruin (eyes wide open!) for her; hell, I've got friends like that. (2) Why would I and the audience forget everything we know about chimps/Big Foot/dinosaurs just for this movie? You guys need to talk to kids more. They can spell names like Ramphorhyncus backwards. Kids are taught in school that a Brontosaurus couldn't live in a swamp; they were the giraffes of the Jurassic. (3) It's the believability of the special effects that will make this movie a jaw-dropper, BUT all special effects are creatures of the their time, and the context of all the other movies we see them in. Therefore, King Kong has got to top 'em all; he's got to be Gollum Version Three. (4) Finally, I'd want to see a seven-year-old watch this movie and say to me: "I think Kong can get out of this mess! I think he can make it." Kong's death should hit them the way the Bambi's mother's death hit kids in the 1950s (hard and fast!), not drag on for fifteen interminable minutes. So the bar is pretty darn high for Peter Jackson's King Kong. Slavish reproduction just won't do.
What's the point? by SNAFU06	Apr 2nd, 2004 04:24:30 AM
I love the original King Kong. I grew up on it. It's a wonderful movie. I don't get the point of remaking it. It wasn't a flawed movie. It was a great movie. There's nothing there that needs to be improved or updated, unlike, say, Man on Fire, or another film that was deeply flawed originally.
Adrien Brody is excellent news. He's carried THE PIANIST alone a by Spacesheik	Apr 2nd, 2004 05:39:16 AM
The full cast of this movie is gonna be great.
Casting by Spacesheik	Apr 2nd, 2004 05:51:07 AM
And another thing, casting Jack Black and Adrien Brody, two unconventional looking but very intense looking actors is a GREAT idea by Peter Jackson. You fanboys always complain about Hollywood cliched bullshit and movie studio ideas, now you are complaining cause George fucking Clooney and people of that ilk weren't cast. These are great choices so far. If only Peter Jackson could sneak Ian mcKellan in there or Sean Astin.
Re: Bill Murray as Denham by DinoDeLaurentiis	Apr 2nd, 2004 11:46:47 AM
With any luck, PJ might see the suggestion and say "Dang! Golem's right! What was I thinking?? Get me Bill Murray's agent on the phone! Jack... a change in plans... you're now going to be Charlie the Cook. Let's hear how you read 'me no like crazy black man!'"
Catwoman v King Kong by MontyPigeon	Apr 2nd, 2004 05:36:17 PM
The Battle of the shitfests has begun. My money is on Catwoman to become the worst film ever made but King Kong has Peter Jackson at the controls. Kong might cause an upset and take the award being as it has no story and is a film which didn't even need another remake. Whatever happens we know we are looking at the 2 worst films in recent times before they even get released. God bless the film industry.
Adrian Brody Looks Like a Mouse! by Sam Bones	Apr 2nd, 2004 06:55:15 PM
This casting strikes me as quite odd. EXTREMELY ODD. Brody with his delicate features and bird-like face looks like he should be playing the lead in a wimpy Rod Stewart bio not the role of the burly Jack Driscoll. This is very disappointing. I have no problem with Brody's acting ability but his physical stature is that of a thin weed not a great oak that can weather the storm of Skull Island. Brody seems more dinosaur din-din than dinosaur eater. I fear that Jackson is making a huge mistake with this casting of the effete-looking Brody.
Here's an alternative version of King Kong... by Red Raider	Apr 3rd, 2004 01:51:26 PM
Cast Beyonce as a black Ann Darrow & have Kong be a white gorilla. Beyonce would be damn sexy in that version, and I bet her screaming is top notch!
nose by Rupee88	Apr 3rd, 2004 05:55:39 PM
yes, that honker will be distracting to watch
You mean... by Halloween68	Apr 3rd, 2004 07:17:39 PM
Summer of Suck. That had to be what the SOS stoof for. 'Hands down one of the worst most disapointing films I've ever seen.
Grimloch on PJ's back again. by krylite	Apr 3rd, 2004 09:50:54 PM
Grimmy, I thought you liked the Pianist. KK is Jackson's pet project, doing the film is his lifelong goal. LOTR was a fan project of his, but his interest in movies started when he saw KK. Have you seen Naomi Watts in the "Ring"? She's not bad. At least for you, none of the hobbit actors are in this one. Don't trash this one in the shitter just yet unless you just want to prove PJ is a hack as your goal all along in these boards. If KK stumbles, then it stumbles, but it won't erase LOTR's 17 oscar wins and 31 nominations, heh.
what's the point of bitching about casting for a movie? by minderbinder	Apr 6th, 2004 07:33:14 PM
Look at LOTR, he cast a number of actors who seemed totally wrong for the parts based on their previous films...and they turned out to be perfect. Since I don't want to make an ass of myself (like many on here apparently want to) I'll judge the performances AFTER I see them.
iS THIS THE WORST CASTING IN CINEMA HISTORY? YES by chien_sale	Apr 7th, 2004 04:19:21 AM
I guess Jackson wanted someone that looked like an Ape with Brody. The character is supposed to be a swashbuckling, 30s tough hero...Humphrey Bogart wasn`t ugly. STUPID STUPID STUPID
VIGGO AND MIRANDA by innertMoustard	Apr 7th, 2004 06:46:16 AM
I don`t know why Peter didn`t consider them to play the two leads for King Kong because they would be perfect. Viggo has charm but he`s not too good-looking and could pull it off as that rugged man. And Miranda Otto(Eowyn) has that grace about her in an old-fashion demeaner that would be perfect playing a woman in the 30s and attract a geant Ape. I think Peter passed over a good thing here.
anti heros are better by joshtron3001	Apr 26th, 2004 09:41:56 PM
I think Jackson chose Brody because he is setting this movie in a time that is reminiscent of the jazz era of the 1920's... Brody looks more like the male leads of those day. I mean come on... Brody has a classic hero look, almost like Clark Gable. In the movie he will play an ex WWI pilot not a gladiator or a terminator. No we dont need another hulking male lead for this movie.

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