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Every Movie I've Seen In The Last Year by KidCthulhu	Mar 26th, 2004 04:28:51 AM
(Fill in the Blank) looks spectacular visually, but everytime a character opens their mouth, you want to smack them.
Praise "Bob"! by KidCthulhu	Mar 26th, 2004 04:29:27 AM
first
Thank god they touched up fx in Spidey2 by Max_Cherry	Mar 26th, 2004 04:32:49 AM
I guess i wasnt the only one who thought the special effects didnt look to great in the trailer..im kinda anxious to see the movie now
HELLBOY SUCKED!!!!!!!!!!! by mpfanatic	Mar 26th, 2004 04:43:33 AM
went to a screening of this tonight and I got to say it was incredibly bad, just godaweful
Pity the banner did'nt fall on Kirsten Dunst head! by JollyBlondeGiant	Mar 26th, 2004 04:51:16 AM
God I hate her so much. Anyhoo No. 2 sounds real good.
SPIDEY 3'S ON THE WAY. SO IS 2 A CLIFFHANGER ? by el zar	Mar 26th, 2004 05:07:09 AM
Just thinking...
FUCK THIS SHIT!!!!! WHAT ABOUT RICHARD KELLY'S UPCOMING FUTURE S by KID AB	Mar 26th, 2004 05:07:48 AM
Starring Sean William Scott, Sarah Michelle Gellar, Janeane Garofolo, Kevin Smith and Ali Larter. It'll probably have a Claire Danes cameo where she sings TVC15 by David Bowie, as a pussycat doll type thing.
Spidey 2 Clips by Yokohama-Mama	Mar 26th, 2004 05:26:49 AM
I've just seen some clips from Spiderman 2 on another site, and my excitement for this movie has just increased 100 times. What I love about the web-slinging shots is that they (so far)all seem to be bathed in the golden glow of afternoon sun. That may sound a bit lame to some of you guys but there's nothing like a nice warm golden sunny afternoon, y'know? The kind of afternoon where you go to watch a big summer 'event' picture and come out afterwards and the sun's just going down and there's still time to go and get a beer with your friends and talk about the movie till the pub shuts....I guess I like my movies sunny! But things like that are reeeally important in a movie.
PLANT! by ZeedarTeretz	Mar 26th, 2004 06:55:57 AM
That review sucked everyone's dick.
who gives a fuck... by MisterGrimloch	Mar 26th, 2004 07:46:23 AM
Spider-Man sucked.
I saw 30 seconds of the DOc Ock batle on the news by oneragga	Mar 26th, 2004 07:52:08 AM
..this morning before heading to the gym. (I get up REAL early)Must've been part of the trailer, but I distinctly remember Spidey being knocked off the train, swinging BETWEEN THE CAB AND TRAILER OF AN 18 WHEELER, SHOT FROM THE REAR WHILE TRAVELING AT A VERY HIGH RATE OF SPEED, Doc Ock on the train, Spidey diving at him from above, Spidey (again from the rear) being dragged through the street by the train whilst webbed to it, and some more coffee shop attack footage. NBC local newscast in Miami, around 6 am. Holy Shit in a Handbag.
Hellboy sucked? by kafka07	Mar 26th, 2004 08:00:47 AM
I hope it isn't bad. I like Guillermo and Pearlman, sounds like a great team and I hope it works. I'm psyched for this upcoming movie season and Hellboy basically kicks the season off. I want blockbusters now! If they do suck at least I can own ROTK on dvd soon.
spider-man 3 by andymc	Mar 26th, 2004 08:08:18 AM
there is just one word that will make this film rule one character and that is..............VENOM
So where was the info on Spiderman 3??? by dastickboy	Mar 26th, 2004 08:11:03 AM

MPFan, care to elaborate? by CellarDoor	Mar 26th, 2004 08:13:45 AM
I'm listening...
Anyone listening to Stern right now? by Nice Marmot	Mar 26th, 2004 08:34:03 AM
Paul "the hack geeks hate" Anderson is on talking A vs P. Geeks are calling in to bash him.
If 2 ends in a cliffhanger, it will end with Harry Osborn puttin by SpyGuy	Mar 26th, 2004 08:36:03 AM
...Just you watch. And the third movie? The Sinister Six, with Harry as the Green Goblin, Doctor Octopus, the Lizard, Electro, the Sandman, and (surprise!) Venom. Personally, though, I would prefer to see them hold off on The Six until SPIDER-MAN 6 (naturally enough), but Raimi & Co. have to top 2 somehow...
Spiderman 2 has an approved budget of $200,000,000!!! by aphextwin	Mar 26th, 2004 08:42:41 AM
See IMDB.com at box office and data. This has to be the second most official expensive movie in history! (if you don't count the inflated budgets like Titanic or Waterworld). Only Terminator 3 has a bigger approved budget. Man, Columbia Pictures has a LOT of confidence in this particular project.
Fuckin' Banner Ads Bitch by Whiney Bitch	Mar 26th, 2004 09:33:24 AM
What are the chances of someone at AICN shutting that fuckin' noise off - chhh -- awahhah --- chhh --- awahhah --- chhh --- awahahh...
I'll be royally pissed if... by Clark82	Mar 26th, 2004 10:31:20 AM
they introduce anything involving Venom in this movie, even if in the very end. There are so many great spidey stories to get to before that. I think it would kick major ass to see a flick with spidey in the black symbiote costume himself, dealing internally with what its consequences are. Also I highly doubt they'd use the Sinister Six, it would be a disaster waiting to happen, just look at the multi-villaned Batman flicks. Hopefully Nolan doesn't have the same problem. Even in X-Men there isn't enough time to develop all the characters...6 baddies is simply too many
I cant wait by Blok Narpin	Mar 26th, 2004 10:35:50 AM
Spider-Man was easily the 2nd best film of 2002, and I just can't wait to see this. As great as the first one was this looks even better. Doc Ock is a much cooler villain then Green Goblin. Can't wait!!
I agree with the complaints about that PIECE OF SHIT BANNER AD!! by IAmJacksUserID	Mar 26th, 2004 10:35:59 AM
Get. Rid. Of. It. PRONTO! Is it just me, or is the fuckin net becomming annoying to surf. I get maybe 20 emails a day from asshole spammonkeys wanting anything form increasing my penis size so I can lay some pipe on my bitch next time to setting me up on a blind date. Then you get spyware in your PC from just about every site out there so you get pop up banners left and right. Now these goddamn ads actually play movies and make sounds. I hate them so much! I also 'love' ads that pop up in front of whatever it is you are looking at and you have to close the shit down to see it (which is almost bad enough) but you can't find the fucking 'x' close button thing!
What is it with these PLANTS?! Your not a fan of the first film by TheGinger Twit	Mar 26th, 2004 11:19:51 AM

For the love of all things unholy... by Look At My Knees	Mar 26th, 2004 01:01:58 PM
SHUT THAT FUCKING AD UP!
AICN and Advertising by JacksonsBane	Mar 26th, 2004 03:21:04 PM
I can live with all these flashing banners, BUT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD KILL THE AUDIO! That's enough to turn me away.
"a tad cheesy" by Shigeru	Mar 26th, 2004 03:22:48 PM
Seems like that's what Raimi's giving us. Don't get me wrong, I love the guy to death, but is that Subway scene with the passengers who get in Ock's way just another "You mess with New York, you mess with all of us!" garbage in the first one. You know, people throwing bricks at the Green Goblin and shit. Just cause it's NYC and it's post 9/11 doesn't mean that crap has to happen. And how about "Do you love me? Then kiss me." With the GIANT LIPS coming at you...and then the cheesy as hell intercut zoom shots of Peter and MJ. I know it's a comic book movie, but that doesn't mean it can't have subtlety in the direction. Oh well, it still sounds like it will rock my balls off.
Just my opinion but... by BillEmic	Mar 26th, 2004 03:40:53 PM
I think Raimi's true comic book masterpiece is DARK MAN...to me, it feels more like a comic book movie than Spider-Man or X-Men. And it's more fun to watch. Raimi seems too restrained on Spider-Man.
But there's a mute button isn't there? by Trevor Goodchild	Mar 26th, 2004 03:44:36 PM
A Scorpion appearance would be nice. As long as it features Kirsten Dunst in knee length boots.
New Yoik by Trevor Goodchild	Mar 26th, 2004 03:50:23 PM
Oh yes, the Patriotic cheese has got to go. I think one of the contributing factors to The Hulk's poor showing was the sight of the American army getting a proper shoeing.
Agreed by BillEmic	Mar 26th, 2004 04:30:21 PM
I too cannot stand the constant proclaimations of New York City as "the greatest city in the world!!!" in every new movie Hollywood churns out. It needs to stop. There's nothing that makes NY any better than any other city. I for one can not wait to see it decimated by Roland Emmerich this summer.
Hulk hate Banner!!!! Too Noisy!!! by The Dude Abides	Mar 26th, 2004 07:23:53 PM
Seriously, turn that shit off, Harry, it's fucking obnoxious.
How much does Tobey weigh by SeaHawk	Mar 26th, 2004 09:00:49 PM
well?
NY seriously just sucks these days... by SK909	Mar 26th, 2004 10:29:27 PM
Does anyone find Manhattan to be like the world's largest outdoor mall lately? All that shit about culture and everything else seems like it's long gone. Oh sure, there are the usual suspects among museums, and they are great, don't get me wrong, but there's nothing new in NY anymore. And the stuff that is, for instance, ALL of the art galleries in Chelsea, and pretty much the entire independent film scene in NY is overrun by unbelievably pretentious assholes who either A) have rich parents or unbelievable connections or B) are in the top ten percent of the world's bullshitters. If you're sensitive or just don't know how to put on a show for everyone and attend the parties and hobnob with all the other B.S. er's in NY, then you get labeled as a freak or , even worse, untalented. I've seen it in the art scene, the film scene, the music scene, etc. The funniest thing is that Independent Film Monthly? I think... anyway, one of those magazines was running an article about the best cities to film in on a low budget and they were saying that NY is the greatest because it's toughness weeds out all the posers. Hey man, last time I checked, NY is nothing but fucking posers. The toughness is actually bullshit in disguise as real working knowledge and talent. People like Martin Scorsese and Oliver Stone(both known for being shy, introverted and equipped with BS detectors in their NYU days) would never make it through that scene these days because there's no differentiation between whose talented and whose not. Seriously, go to any short film festival or any gallery and see what gets praised and what doesn't. Has absolutely nothing to do with talent anymore. Anyway... besides that little rant, NY is just wall-to-wall Duane Reades, Staples, Starbucks, burrito joints, Gaps... you name it, if it's commercial AND trendy, there's one every five feet. Except for a few places, NY sucks ass... seriously, both the people, the traffic, the noise, and the bullshit you have to wade through make it unbearable. At least before, the culture and the quality of the people made it worth it, but it's just one big phoney now. And this is someone who used to LOVE NY. Goddamn shame... all cause of insanely high rents and intense commercialism. And this has nothing to do with 9/11, so don't get your panties up in a bunch. Pretend 9/11 didn't happen for a minute and just listen to what I'm saying about the city itself and how it's just going down the shitter...
9/11: The Movie by BillEmic	Mar 26th, 2004 11:36:33 PM
It's very easy to imagine 9/11: The Movie. Directed by Michael Bay, nach. Picture this: Ben Affleck leaps from the rooftop of the first tower as it collapses - while he's draped in an American flag, of course - and then crashes through the window of the second tower, just in time to slam his fist into a terrorist. Because that would be a major plot twist: there were terrorists inside the buildings too. Ben Affleck would be an employee there and Angelina Jolie would be his TV reporter girlfriend. Samuel L. Jackson would be the 'local hero' bus driver, trying to transport people out the way - who also discovers the terrorists' plot before hand but no one believes him. What do you think?
Puh...puh...puh... PLANT!!! by Jeditemple	Mar 27th, 2004 12:11:13 AM
Obvious plant...
What are you people bitching about??? by ethandarkseid	Mar 27th, 2004 12:18:18 AM
That banner has a volume button located in the lower right hand corner that is turned off when you go to the main page. At least that's what it did for me. Anyways, at least this site does'nt have the magnitude of POP up ads that darkhorizons.com has. Just mentioning it gives me shivers...hope harry does'nt read this and get any ideas. Ugh.
Kirsten Dunst - NOT HOT by Travis Pickle	Mar 27th, 2004 12:28:28 AM
Shuddup you hairless fanboys who think Kirsten Dunst is hot. She looks like they took some Iowa farmhand and slapped a red wig on her. You gotta be really hard up to lust after her and Anna Paquin. Why don't they cast someone really hot in the Mary Jane role? Atleast start with someone hotter than Dunst, like say, your mom.
re: 9/11 the movie by Travis Pickle	Mar 27th, 2004 12:36:24 AM
You know what's worse than cliche directors, producers, and writers? Dumb ass posters like Bill who think they're being clever by writing some stupid unfunny post that fails miserably to show wit or insight.
Right by BillEmic	Mar 27th, 2004 12:44:09 AM
Like the AICN Talkback is THE forum to display one's creativity, wit, or insight? Okay, yeah...Sorry if my post was a little too "unpatriotic" for ya, I was merely trying to give an exaggerated example of how Hollywood will commercialize any event for profit, whether it's 9/11 or Pearl Harbor. And everyone here knows that's the truth.
I'll probably get a flame thrower aimed at me for this... by TheGinger Twit	Mar 27th, 2004 12:50:05 AM
...But at the amount of destruction and death I've seen on TV and the alternate media sites on the net - all from the hands of America since 911. Well, it just doesn't seem that tragic anymore. And personally I'm a little sick and tired of how many Americans hide behind it, and use it to justify killing 500,000 kids. Do any of you take the time to relise just how much pain has been caused through out the world by your government? All you guys ever talk about it stopping terrorism. Come again?? Whos the one dropping bombs on other countries? Who's the one planning to drop more bombs? Who's the one telling lies. Yes lies, to rally the american people behind starting these wars? Wars?? slaughter is the correct word. If it were war then there would be bombs dropping on your country too. If a new terrorist strike does take place in your country, just remember (if it's not staged to start more wars) that you guys wanted war. And war if faught on both sides. Anyone see Star Wars. You guys are the Empire. And any attacks will come from those trying to bring the Death Star down. But Spiderman looks cool. Would have liked to see the helicopter get tangled between the world trade center... Still can't work out why it had to be cut.
Bill, for all it's worth, you're right by The Dude Abides	Mar 27th, 2004 01:18:42 AM
that's exactly what hollywood would do.
ginger twit by Shigeru	Mar 27th, 2004 01:32:36 AM
I agree with almost all of what you said...true the USA is employing empirialistic tendencies throughout the world...and it does remind me of the empire from star wars...but does that make terrorists the rebellion? Is Osama Han Solo? We helped create a shitload of terrorists, but that doesn't change the fact that they are fuckin murderous assholes...just like us.
Ginger Twit and Shigeru... by Shepdog	Mar 27th, 2004 02:14:55 AM
...as opposed to the magnanimous and culturally-sensitive British Empire, which in the last century invaded and occupied three quarters of the globe? You mean that Empire...the Falkland Islands Empire? Or is it the fucking Frenchies you're referring to, who managed their war on "terrorists" in Algeria with wholesale slaughter and brutality so egregious that their membership in the U.N. was jeopardized? That Empire? Before you start telling me to clean up my yard, clean up yours, you fucking self-righteous pillow-biters. The lesson ends here.
Dn't give me that 'most powerful nation' bullshit by TheGinger Twit	Mar 27th, 2004 04:08:35 AM
Have you had a good look at the national debt? And the impending economic collapse? I'm sorry, but their is nothing great about your nation anymore. And the only poweryou have if your arsenal. Well guess what. Every country has an arsenal. And if America doesn't stop fucking using theirs on every one else, then be prepared for a 'REAL' war. One you yanks will get a big shock over.
You Homo Sapiens and your guns by Trevor Goodchild	Mar 27th, 2004 07:45:36 AM

sheepdog by Shigeru	Mar 27th, 2004 10:53:54 AM
uh I said WE...meaning I am an American. Born and raised...and not too proud of it. But everybody else sucks too, so what's a guy to do? I was certainly by no means touting the English or French. And anybody who says it doesn't matter at all what we do...the game's too big....well it's that thinking that helped us get here today. There have been plenty of "nobodys" that have changed and influenced culture just because they stood up. Don't whine about it on msg boards...go do something and you'll be surprised. Don't make me bring up Frodo! oh, and that "guys shoot around corners" link...so, you put a fiber optics camera on a gun and run it through some visor?! That's hardly revolutionary...that tech has been around for a long while now...
Trouble with a Spidey 3 is... by Kid Z	Mar 27th, 2004 11:06:17 AM
... Now that you've had Green Goblin and Doc Ock, you're out of decent Spidey villains. I mean, there's the Lizard, but let's face it: HE'S LAME! That leaves who else? Hobgoblin? He's just some schmoe who found one of Gobby's hideouts and cribbed his gig. The Jackel? Err... Clones... maybe not!Vulture? Hmmm... a definate maybe, anyway... Kingpin? He's Daredevil's prob anymore. Will 'O' the Wisp? Rocket Racer? The Gibbon? Kangaroo (chortle)? The Spot (guffaw!)? All lame-os! Sandman would be cool, but he's always been just a 2-bit thug with more power than he ever knew what to do with, same thing with the Rhino. Spidey is like Superman, he's always had just one or 2 good villains and it's always been a problem
9-11 Movie??? I thought this was about Spidey-Man by Kid Z	Mar 27th, 2004 11:12:29 AM
Anyway, to play Dubya, I nominate Dennis Miller... give hime a shave, Dubya makeup effects and a Dubya wig. He's got the same smirk, and arrogant, smarmy manner. Plus, he too is really fuckin' stupid. Also, it'd probably be his dream gig... he's got such an obvious homoerotic crush on our beloved (mis)leader, he'll be creaming his drawers during the entire shoot. The producers will have to stock up on shitloads of "Depends"!
Might wanna check out theForce.net by jedidluv	Mar 27th, 2004 02:04:16 PM
Mighty intrestting article there about the truth behind 'The Creeping Fear' article harry posted....poor poor harry,
a link to the story by jedidluv	Mar 27th, 2004 02:09:28 PM
and for those lazy enough to not go looking for it on there own heres a link http://www.theforce.net/episod e3/
The face of the enemy by BillEmic	Mar 27th, 2004 02:46:49 PM
I think the real problem - or at least one of the many - is that you can't actually have a "war" against terrorism, simply because you can't wage war against a faceless enemy. To compensate, the US government has made Osama the poster boy for terrorism, making him this generation's Hitler. But do people really expect terrorism to end - or for things to get any better - once Osama is captured/killed/dies of old age? Of course not...because terrorism is more of a concept, an idea, that grows in people's hearts and minds - usually after their country is bombed or taken advantage of by a larger, more supreme power. What does that tell you? We're screwed. /// I'm glad some people found the point I was trying to make with that 9/11: The Movie comment. It'll happen, eventually, but probably about 70 years from now once the survivors and their families are gone, and those of us that remember it are too old to raise a fuss and stop Hollywood. // Also, I think Chamelon would make a decent Spider-Man movie villain...maybe?
re: 9/11 the movie by microwavable?	Mar 27th, 2004 07:18:13 PM
i can totally see the first teaser trailer: the screen starts dark, but we hear the roar of a jet engine. slowly the rear interior of an airliner comes into focus. the camera slowly moves backwards, revealing row after row of confused passengers, showing traces of panic. the camera keeps backing up, and a terrorist is walks from the foreground with a small box cutter, policing the aisles. the camera slowly turns around as it nears the front of the plane, showing another terrorist by the cockpit door with his eyes moving among the hostages. the camera then dissolves through the cockpit door, showing a bound and gagged pilot shaking, a terrorist flying the plane chanting something softly. the camera moves beyond the cockpit window, through some clouds, and far in the distance, the two towers are visable. fade to black, and fade in the title: "9/11: THE MOVIE." the sound of the jet engine gets softer. fade in: "EXPLODING INTO THEATERS SUMMER 2005."
Shigeru & ebonic plague... by Shepdog	Mar 27th, 2004 10:41:11 PM
Lads, each time I try to forget the shitty world we live in for a few minutes and visit this site for some goofy fun, unctuous cunts like GingerTwat or Obscure Reference or anathema_1973 feels that he/she has to opine inappropriately in this forum, baiting the rest of us. I hate ignorant, foolishly written posts, devoid of fact or historical context. Furthermore, I feel compelled to respond even though I know that I shouldn't (making me equally guilty of using this forum inappropriately). Responding only encourages the felchers to continue to troll with their inane and badly composed screeds. However, Harry, or whoever maintains this site, seemingly refused to moderate Talk Back and ban those who refuse to adhere to the accepted and mostly honored protocol of talking about films. If we stop taking the bait, then we can talk about Spider-Man which is why we're here in the first place. Agreed?
why are we still arguing about Iraq? by lynxpro	Mar 27th, 2004 10:48:43 PM
You people simply amaze me. You do realize that you are crying over the overthrow of a dictatorship, right? What was redeemable about Saddam Hussein? If there were no WMD in Iraq, why did Hussein defy the UN for over a decade over disclosure? There was nothing for him to gain from a bluffing match if he had no weapons; all his defiance did was antagonize the US and the British into overthrowing him. That is insane. Iraq will be a better place without Hussein. This is a painful period currently, but so was Germany after WWII. If you don't believe there was opposition to Allied occupation, I suggest you tune into the History Channel. Nazis assassinated "collaborators" after the war. It is no different with Iraq. You have deposed Baathists and foreign terrorists trying to kill as many Coalition forces as possible. And yes, the Iraqi people are proud and they don't want an occupying force in their country for a long time either, but the funny thing is, they are telling the pollsters that they don't want the Americans to leave just yet until the chaos clears. Iraqi will be a federal democracy next year. How many other Arab nations do you see that are democratic? Yeah, you can say we forced democracy on the Iraqis, but we did to the Germans as well, and I'm sure most Germans would say "thank you" for that. Now you anti-war folk think you are trendy for opposing the war, but just be thankful you weren't an Iraqi citizen. Over here, you can criticize Bush (or in the UK, Blair); in Iraq, if you criticized Saddam, you got fed into the industrial sized plastic shredders. Good stuff. Did we go to war without UN Approval? Yes. Screw the UN. The reason why they didn't vote to authorize our little adventure is because the French, Germans, and Russians had plenty to hide over all their business arrangements carried out with Saddam's regime that were supposed to be illegal since the end of Desert Storm. Those jokers issued passports to Baathist regime members so they could flee the country during the occupation and not cast light on the dubious deals. That's why the French goverment was so anti-war. They had too much to lose from it. After all, before the US aided Saddam in the Iran-Iraq War, Saddam was France's boy. France billed Saddam as a "modernizer." They helped him build a nuclear power plant that would've given him enough plutonium to build nuclear weapons - but the Israelis destroyed the plant. France, Germany, and Russia also had a lot of outstanding loans with the former Iraqi regime that the US invalidated with the installation of the Iraqi Governing Council. Those countries are pissed because they just lost billions over it, and since they didn't back the war, they will be frozen out on the oil deals that will go through. So why don't you analyze the motives of the other supporters of the anti-war movement. The US is Rome of our era. No tinpot dicator should defy the world's superpower, just as no sane ruler challenged Rome. If we turn a blind eye, we'll have to deal with dozens more wannabe North Koreas. Look what engagement under Clinton did to North Korea. North Korea lied to the UN and went ahead with creating WMD. Now North Korea is scared that the US will invade. Good. Its called "peace through strength" and Bush is playing the "mad bomber" strategy that Nixon favored. Its already caused Libya to give up. Hopefully others will follow suit. I pay taxes and I'd rather our volunteer army actually do something instead of sitting around pretending to be Boy Scouts ("be prepared") playing with guns every once in awhile. Rome advanced the Western World by using its military power. The British did the same thing. That's not something to be ashamed of. And to those that just wimpered over Scotland, crack open a history book. Once Scotland became part of the entity known as "Great Britain," there were a bunch of positive things that transpired. The English and the Scottish stopped fighting each other and wound up taking over much of the Earth. Not bad for a small little island country. That union ushered in the industrial age, modern democracy and the world's appreciation of the English language. Not too shabby indeed. It also created what we now call the United States, the inheritor of the former Empire in spirit (just as Rome inherited from the Greeks, and I'm not talking anal sex). But yes, be fashionable and take verbatim what you learned in a Mel Gibson film for history. Fuckin' leprotards and frogs.
Lynxpro... by TheGinger Twit	Mar 27th, 2004 11:52:38 PM
...That's rich saying that the French and the Germans didn't want war with Iraq because they had dealings with the country. That is rich, indeed. Did you ever think that the french and Germans didn't want war becuase they've had it spack dab in their faces before and now live in a world free of such harsh realities? How about the fact they didn't want Gun happy America with it's nuclear arsenal coming on over to their side of the world and filling the air with radioactive dust. the equivalent of 4,000 hiroshimas is present in the Afgan and Iraqi soil as a result of depleted uranium weaponry. You have the nerve to say that the people of the world didn't want war with Iraq because of person interests. C'mon man, America has been fucking over Iraq for the past 10 years, defying UN demands to stop flying over and bombing the country - toying witht he people and creating TERROR. And what happened in all those years of American and Israely planes buzzing the country. the people would get scared and fire on the aircrafts. Then the Americans would go "Hey, they fired on us... lets go!!" And start dropping carpet bombs. An illegal WMD under the UN. The UN tried to keep the peace and save a lot of people from being killed. Argue all you wish that Saddam is now gone and the world is a better place. I'm looking around scratcing my head trying to see exactly what is so much better, personally. Plus, do sonme reasearch. israel is in much more violation of UN resolutions that Iraq ever was. And Israel actually does have WMD. And Said nation is actually going into it's neighbors and attacking. Yes I know, they're defending themselves from terrorists..... Do some research again and see how Israel came into being. The point is, The War on Iraq was a crock of shit. And anyone who thinks that democracy will florish as a result... well you keep telling yourself that. and keep watching the main stream media for all the 'truth'. The real truth is that things are not good at the moment. and something BIG and BAD is going to happen very soon. Americans don't seem to know anything because they're fed all the American government propaganda. But we in the outside world get the real news. We see everything for what it is. And what that is is a powerful nation going in and stonping on a couple of 3rd world countried with no means of defending themselves. As if America was afraid of Iraq. There are dozens of nuclear countries that want to wipe America clean. And those nations want to only because they are sick of seeing the blood shed every day - all at the hands of America. Wake Up America. Wake up! There will be no peace and no terrorism until you stop the carnage from the source. The death toll is upwards of 800,000, not 8,000. Terrorsm is not being stopped out, it is growing. And when it hits, then I fear the 'retalition' America will feel justified in carrying out.
responses by lynxpro	Mar 28th, 2004 01:55:19 AM
Actually, iTylerDurden, I wouldn't consider the British to be the creators of concentration camps. I'd actually bestow the credit on the US government since they themselves came up with the idea for "reservations." The Germans didn't get it from the British. The Nazis were fond of claiming that Germany needed "living space," which is the same thing as Manifest Destiny. And while the British are bestowed the credit for the concentration camp, they didn't shoot the Boer prisoners nor errect gas chambers so its pretty dubious to lump them with the Nazis in that endeavour. GingerTwit, its pretty rich to claim that innocent Iraqis were scared of US and British jets patroling the "No Fly Zones" which were set up at the end of Desert Storm. Saddam bought advanced radar equipment from the Russians (you know, 1 of the 3 countries that were so vocal about opposing the toppling of Saddam?). Every time they locked onto American and British jets for their SAMs (before the war), that's when they'd get blasted. That's much different than Masood at the bazaar holding up his AK-47 and firing wildly into the air. Yes, I'm fully aware of the news media outside of the US and I do not consider Fox News to be anything more than entertainment for some. And no, I do not agree with the policies of the State of Israel and I'd even go so far as to label it an apartheid regime and the main obstacle to peace under their current Prime Minister. As for a bunch of nations with nukes able to wipe out the US, think again. The only nation besides Russia with that capability is China, and they only have range of hitting the West Coast of the US. Anyone attacking the US or Britain with nukes has a serious suicidal issue. The Bush Administration did make mention that North Korea would be wiped off the face of the Earth if it fired a nuclear missile at the US or at its forces anywhere in Asia. As for depleted uranium - yeah, that's a problem. That's a NATO-wide problem. The Pentagon is actually researching how to make plastic bullets effective (without resorting to rail gun technology) in order to replace lead due to environmental concerns. Do you see any other militaries doing the same research? Nope. And I go back to history. We are Rome. And if we don't stand up to extremists around the world and prevent them from gaining WMD, we could be faced with going back to the Dark Ages. The Jihadists do not respect any other culture or religion but their own. I will assume you did see what the Taliban did to the ancient statues in Afghanistan prior to the American "invasion." So if it takes our military to wipe out the bastardes like them, so be it. This "European" (ahem, French & German) attitude of appeasement and claiming that non-whites do not appreciate democracy must go. Their wuss-ta-tude allowed Serbia to terrorize Croatia, Bosnia, and Kosovo until the US decided to punish the regime through bombings which later caused it to collapse. And I'll give the Clinton Administration credit for it although it took way too many years for them to grow the spine to do it.
now back to Spider-Man... by lynxpro	Mar 28th, 2004 01:57:13 AM
you know, if they were to do the clone storyline (gawd forbid it, speaking as an original Spider-Man Expatriot), Jake Gyllenhaal would make one hell of a Scarlett Spider....
by Shigeru	Mar 28th, 2004 03:00:35 AM
FUCK the clones!! And while Saddam was stalling around with UN Weapons inspectos for the past 10 years, we were enforcing economic sanctions that have killed as many as hundreds of thousands of civilians in Iraq through hunger. Yeah, I can see how good can come of that....?? I can also see how good can come of Britain culturally anally raping China in the 19th century through illegal opium trade and all that jazz. Some one's on crack here.
I thought this talkback was about Spidey 2..not Pompous ham fist by Joe Mammary	Mar 28th, 2004 05:18:29 AM
Preach on my brothers! The coddled masses are angry about..stuff
hee hee by TheGinger Twit	Mar 28th, 2004 09:29:46 AM
Anyone taken the time to imagine themselves in this shoes of this administration... with an entire planet of 6 Billion people wanting your heads on pikes. Guess I'd be nervous about this coming November too. Seriously, I look around me and I see no love for these 'elites'... only on 10% of these talkbacks.
help by St.90	Mar 28th, 2004 10:39:21 AM
help me, i have no purposeI envy you;you the elite few who carve the time out of your daily routine to chime in on projects that mean so much to so few. I need you.my existence consists of brief periods of consciousness between my bi-hourly channel surfing sessions on Time Warner cable and my mandatory(self imposed) 16 hours of sleep per day. I check AICN 4times a day...is that unhealthy? My ex- is a 5'10"Swede who wont leave me be w/my new girl... this website is one of my few solices from the repetetive chore of deciding whether to taste leftovers or the catch of the day... anyway,wassup w/"The Warriors" remake? Holla back-St.....PS Famke aint all that...trust me.
GingerTwat... by Shepdog	Mar 28th, 2004 10:46:47 AM
There, there, Twat. Hush, baby. Everything will be alright in the morning. Now, please crawl back onto your pub stool and finish your 8th pint of warm beer and your plate of wretched cuisine paid for by your dole money. Stick to impressing your equally soused countrymen and fellow smackheads with your infantile opinions, while the Spice Girls warble in the background. Be careful not to make any witty Sporty Spice jokes or you could get glassed. Then wake up tomorrow at 12:00 PM and check the post for your next bit of welfare dosh before turning on your state-controlled and subsidized television programming (maybe there will be more news about left-wing Parliamentarian and Saddam shill George Galloway) before starting the entire sordid daily routine over again. Honestly, with all your activity, Twat, it's a wonder you have time to compose your feeble posts which amuse us all greatly. We only wish they were about Spiderman.
Adding fuel to the fire by BillEmic	Mar 28th, 2004 10:12:23 PM
Hah, I really shouldn't go there but...right before the first plane hits, the camera switches into "bullet time" - which in this movie will be called "JET TIME" - and shows the impact from every possible angle, in slow motion, with swirling clouds of glass and particles.
Jesus tap dancing Christ, did anyone else see that bootleg versi by Terry_1978	Mar 28th, 2004 10:33:46 PM
They took the link off of course, but dammit, I got to see it, albeit with theatre noise in the background. That CGI has gotten a little better in two years, I must say. Doc Ock flinging cab doors as frisbee projectiles...classic.
This is confusing... by spectrebeeyatch	Mar 29th, 2004 12:24:49 AM
Was this not a Spiderman 2 talk back? Now were talking anti american or pro american bs.... All of you need to stop sucking yourselves and get over this crap. No use being mad at everything all the time ease up and have a good time and be happy Spider man movies are being made, I know I am. Oh also all the British guys bitching about the US just remember you guys made us =)
where the fuck is the Spider-Man 3 news? by PlantBoy!	Mar 30th, 2004 03:43:19 PM
that's false advertising, you bastards.

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