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Moriarty Reviews HELLBOY, ETERNAL SUNSHINE, MAYOR OF SUNSET STRIP! Plus One Crazy Piece Of STAR TREK News!!

damn hellboy looks bad ass by Jon E Cin	Mar 24th, 2004 07:46:24 AM

Star Trek has sucked for 15 years.. by Jon E Cin	Mar 24th, 2004 07:50:00 AM
At least star wars has only sucked for 7..
star trek will never appeal to a mass audience, it's got too muc by mansep	Mar 24th, 2004 07:57:04 AM
personally this trilogy wouldn't excite me at all, i'm exhausted by Star Trek, there's just too much of it. for me it started going downhill with DS9. now i only watch it for T'Pol (sad as i am).... If they are going to do a new series of films then it would be a good idea to start with all new characters as none of the crews from any of the other series are interesting enough for the big screen. but then on the otherhand, why call it Star Trek. better off starting a TOTALLY new sci-fi franchise, you'd get a whole larger group of people excited by it. at the moment the words 'Star Trek' put half of the potential audience off!
Bring Back Nicholas Meyer by Samonusuke	Mar 24th, 2004 08:09:14 AM
People always talk about how the even Treks are better than the odd ones, but that's not true with the next generation franchise which was pretty mediocre except for First Contact. The reason the original even TOS Treks are better is because they were all written by Nicholas Meyer and he directed 2 and 6. Why doesn't anyone see that?
Star Trek Prequels by Sledgeh101	Mar 24th, 2004 08:09:28 AM
We have a prequel to Star Trek. It's called "Enterprise". Use what you have and try and build on it - don't try re-inventing a wheel that's been around for 40 years.
Shatner's head on a young body?! I'd prefer to see an animated p by masterchappy	Mar 24th, 2004 08:12:18 AM
Shite. I feel SO sorry for you poor Trekkies. You geeks are taking a bigger ass-raping then those sods who are still suckling at the teat of Lucas and his tired SW franchise. Stop flogging the dead horse already; when there's no more story to tell, let it go. Flippity-flog-flog-flog. Beat it like a 12-year old beats his lil' monkey to a Sears catalog.
AwwwYEAH! El Demonio Azul LOVES El Demonio Rojo! by Blue_Demon	Mar 24th, 2004 08:35:51 AM
I remember years ago I was browsing in a comic store in Austin when I saw a poster that said "Coming Soon...Mike Mignola's HellBoy." Well...I liked his art. I loved the simplicity of it and the fantastic sense of composition and design and kept on thinking that this would be a great animated film if only Disney grew some balls. Jesus H. am I glad they decided to go with Del Toro. The owner of the store let me keep the poster ( I still have it ) and I became a devoted HellBoy reader. When my friends and I started seeing previews of the movie I had to start defending it. I mean...to somebody who does not know the comic the title "HellBoy" DOES seem a bit silly. Imagine sitting there getting all excited and then hearing one of your buds saying, "HELLBOY??! Jesus Christ!" Try explaining all that make this property great. The mission of the BPRD. The humor balanced so expertly with horror ( Mignola can scare you...Just read "The Wolves of St. August" when the child ghost first appears ), the snappy retro-design of everything that ( to me ) seems like it could fit in a cool Republic Serial, I'm talking about the Nazis' lab equipment, HellBoy's leather utility belt bulging with tecno-gizmos and magic charms. That gun! Did I mention the humor? "Paprika Chicken Baby!" All of this and the tragic hero who was nurtured as a human being but is forever separate. Mignola created a character worthy of Ben Grimm from the Fantastic Four. Liz is HB's Alicia. Go ahead...try to explain that to people raised on cynical shit. 'tain't gonna happen. But fuck 'em. This movie looks like it will deliver in spades. Muchas gracias Don Del Toro! Y espero MUCHAS mas peliculas con nuestro amigo rojo.
I used to be a trekker by riouxda	Mar 24th, 2004 08:47:14 AM
But since I've watched Babylon 5, I can't stand the new Trek show. I stopped with DS9. Babylon 5 was a show which was all about character, which was great!! I know the big Trek fan will say it's like a soap in space but, that's because they didn't watch it entirely and they don't know what they're missing. And you know what? There might be a Babylon 5 movie someday (or at least, a movie in the Babylon 5 universe) and I'm sure it'll be better than any Trek movies since Star Trek 6.
I think i'm in love by CellarDoor	Mar 24th, 2004 08:56:32 AM
Selma Blair. Where have you been all my life. I saw a couple of shots of Liz at countingdown sigh. P.s Fanboys would do well to scour the 'net for the cover images of Flaunt magazine. She's brooding and topless and lithe and...and...and
"the second film by ZombieStomper	Mar 24th, 2004 08:57:35 AM
Wow! I think I'll write a prequel trilogy to Cannonball Run covering the harrowing switch from Standard to Unleaded gasoline. WTF kind of idea is that? People just want to see space shit blowed up.
The last time I heard 'scary' news like this, was when they brou by Rufus_T_Firefly	Mar 24th, 2004 08:59:05 AM
Harve Bennett. 'member him? He produced that universally loathed piece of crap called THE WRATH OF KHAN.
I'd like to be the first to say "THANK YOU" for not having Amazo by K0NY	Mar 24th, 2004 08:59:28 AM
FYI: Yes, linking to Amazon may bring in a bit of money for you. However, this loyal reader considers a review far more credible without them. Let me explain; When you listed the films with which you think "Hellboy" belongs in your ultimate geek nirvana, I believed you. Had that list been linked to Amazon.com, I would have thought that it was only put there to earn you guys an extra buck. In other words, I can take the praise of a guy with ties to the director or studio of a film he's reviewing, with a grain of salt. If you pile the shilling of DVDs onto that mix, it puts the whole review over the top, in terms of "Why was this written and put on the net." Maybe that's just me, but it's how I feel.
Paramount - you're killing Star Trek by Desk	Mar 24th, 2004 09:05:50 AM
A trilogy of Star Trek prequels is a lousy idea. At its heart Roddenberry's creation has always been about looking ahead, into humanity's future. About exploring strange new worlds, seeking out new life, and new civilizations, and how the bold exploration of a vast galaxy can actually help us discover and debate aspects of our own species and our own cultures. Although set in the future these prequels would be looking back over old ground, and face all the problems that have dogged current Trek failure Enterprise. Let's face it, prequels aren't easy, as George Lucas' own trilogy demonstrates. I'm all for getting rid of Berman and Braga, bringing in some new blood. Also, I tend to agree that the only "event" that might draw audiences back into cinemas might be the return of William Shatner - an invaluable and still viable resource who is almost a living legend in geek terms. However, any new venture should take Star Trek forward, further into the unknown, rather than dwell in its past, rehashing its history.
Star Trek by Cassidy21	Mar 24th, 2004 09:07:20 AM
yes we fans have been screwed since Voyager. No, the Wrath of Kahan was not 'crap' and a prequel - dear God. A trilogy of prequels is so stupid an idea only Paramount would entertain it. Wasn't the Romulan ship that cloaked in Enterprise sacrilege enough?
Aint I cool by CellarDoor	Mar 24th, 2004 09:11:31 AM
Here's the link to that flaunt cover image. http://www.superiorpics.com/cg i-bin...=2;t=005028;p=0
I hate to bring up New Frontier, but...? by I Own You	Mar 24th, 2004 09:14:02 AM
I understand why Paramount wouldn't do a New Frontier series (to cheap to pay Peter David for using his characters every week), but the storyline of the first 4 mini-novels would make a great movie. As well, Paramount would tap a new fan base. Just a thought.
I Loved Trek - It Is Dead. by CHEWBLACCA	Mar 24th, 2004 09:15:32 AM
At it's best, I love Star Trek. At it's worst, I find it embarassing and hard to justify. Wrath of Khan & First Contact were great. Others are OK, but it's sucked for years now. If you like Classic Trek read Shatner's books(yeah I know-he has a ton of help). They read like the better movies. As for this idea: CRAP.
No, Ain't I a luddite is more apt by CellarDoor	Mar 24th, 2004 09:15:44 AM
THIS is the link. Impossibly HOT! Pun intended http://www.superiorpics.com/cg i-bin/ultimate/ultimatebb.cgi? ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=005028;p=0
Sixplex? That's a SEXPLEX, son, and don't you forget it! by Daddylonghead	Mar 24th, 2004 09:17:31 AM
What scares me most is that Mori's "lovvy" typo (for lobby) suggests he doesn't use spellcheck or heavily re-edit before posting and that he's really this strong of natural writer. In "Shatner's head on a young body" news, anyone else notice how FAKE Arnie's "body" is in the early naked bar scene of T3?
I used to love Star Trek too, but who gives a flying f**k anymor by Mister McClane	Mar 24th, 2004 09:27:27 AM
And that 'rumour' you got hold of Mori sounds like absolute garbage. Why bother post it? Let's not also forget that Paramount were around A LONG TIME before 'Star Trek' ever appeared. Geez, they've got another great franchise on their hands now. Can't wait for Tomb Raider 3: The Search for Ideas.
I just read the first couple of lines of the "Hellboy" review an by rev_skarekroe	Mar 24th, 2004 09:30:39 AM
I mean, I generally like Moriarty, but blah blah blah! sk
A simple idea from a Star Trek fan by awrobert	Mar 24th, 2004 09:39:10 AM
Tension--it's not breeded from explosions. Suspense--it's not generated from the biggest and baddest machines. "Q", one of the better Star Trek villians, created both of these...on a T.V. budget. Bring the tension and suspense back. Not just to the movies, but to the Enterprise deck. Kirk and Spock, all thought the closet of friends, had their spats. No. 2 was always to passive in my opinion to Jean-Luc. Put this ship were a war is escalating, but draw a line through the Enterprise. Half believe in the msision, the other half don't and let the tension play out through the characters and the beliefs. Explosions and speical effects are great, but righteous confrontation, as the Enterprise sits on the verge of battle, now that is $8 I am willing to part with any day! I come for the characters--I always have.
I Hate Prequels...... by Mad Hamish	Mar 24th, 2004 09:42:49 AM
....Star Trek, Star Wars, Dumb & Dumbererer..erer....you know exactly where you can shove 'em. Trek's 40th anniversary is coming up in 2006, why not just hire some talented storytellers and give them some money to make a movie. A Next Gen/DS9 movie would be something I'd look forward to, for example (seasons 4-7 of both TNG and DS9 are the highpoints of Trek TV; and Wrath of Khan is the highpoint of the movies). If you respect your fan base and tell a human story full of real emotion and heart, with real characters, something all people can relate to and that Trek already has an abundance of, then it just might be successful. Hey, it worked for Lord of the Rings.
"Snow Dogs"?!!!!! by Rollo Tomassi	Mar 24th, 2004 09:52:13 AM
You tell us "Good news, no Berman, no Braga" then tell us the guy who made "Snow Dogs" is taking over? Berman and Braga are burnt out and seem to be fully spent, I grant you, but they made some great "Trek". This guy sounds like a complete loser. I'm shaking.
star trek prequel star by koring2	Mar 24th, 2004 10:02:23 AM

star trek prequel star by koring2	Mar 24th, 2004 10:03:30 AM
if they were casting a young kirk then why not stephen dorff who i think has always looked the part...
Sequels would be more original... by badboymason	Mar 24th, 2004 10:03:42 AM
The problem is with a prequel trilogy...ummm we know pretty much exactly what happens and why. Its not like Star Wars where there are big mysteries, and hows and whys floating around. If they wanna go with this idea, do sequels: advantages - real tension, anything can happen Earth might be blown up, the Federation defeated. Characters returning - Set them 30 years after Nemesis, and an aged Picard could be head of Starfleet. Kirk's body could be dug up and carried round Weekend at Bernies style...maybe not...
Sequel trilogy. by badboymason	Mar 24th, 2004 10:18:26 AM
The ideal SEQUEL trilogy would go like this - 30 years on, the Federation is again fighting a cold war with the Founders, who are able to imitate human form, everyone is suspected, mistrust rules the Federation. The new Enterprise-G is being readied for launch, when Founder spies hijack it and crash it into Earth killing millions. An extremist president under Founder control takes over Earth in the aftermath, and several Starfleet ships rebel breaking away from Earth. The first film would be the setup and feature a climactic battle with our heroes defeating the fleet sent after them. The second film would be them destroying the Founders main base of operation, then in the 3rd the battle and liberation of Earth.
Wanna make a good new Trek movie? by Fat Chooch	Mar 24th, 2004 10:21:34 AM
Paramount's got one last chance to do it right. I say, go out with style. If Berman's really gone, break with his stupid traditions and make a movie out of one of the novels. Hell, "Q Squared" couldn't possibly lose, if re-written to take actor/character changes into account. John deLancie's Q was arguably one of the most popular characters in the TNG universe so it'd be a shame not to use him in a movie. BTW... am I the only one that thinks Jude Law would make a kick-ass Trelane? C'mon, guys. Quit wasting opportunities...
Now they're resorting to crappy ideas they REJECTED 14 years ago by Captain Decker	Mar 24th, 2004 10:22:28 AM
If Harve Fischman Bennett couldn't sell that stinker of an idea to Paramount in 1990 after convincing them to smallow the foul load that was The Final Frontier, you KNOW this franchise is in deep, DEEP trouble if they're considering taking such a grievous step backwards at this stage. Those shitheads REALLY are doing their best to devalue this once great property. Fire Berman and Braga and then pull the plug on the franchise once and for all. They should be remembered for killing Star Trek. That's the legacy that those two goat-fellating imbeciles deserve.
Another Far Out Idea by qwijybo	Mar 24th, 2004 10:23:17 AM
Here's an idea, based on the fact that hard core trekkers will say star trek is about exploration. Why not do it say 500 years after the most advanced thing in the startrek timelime. Send them to the nearest galaxy, not some far off section of our own. Completly new ships, tech, people, this would allow the writer to do anything as the familar star trek universe is literally in another galaxy.
Stop talking about star trek and look at Selma Blair! Hot! by CellarDoor	Mar 24th, 2004 10:28:03 AM
Unless you're doing both in which case...NERD!
Star Trek's ashes should be sprinkled out to sea. by Batutta	Mar 24th, 2004 10:31:21 AM
It was a slow, downhill death after the brilliance of the unaired pilot with Jeffrey Hunter, but this series has finally reached rigor mortis. It's dead. Buried. Irrelevant. Stale. And after Galaxy Quest, how can anyone do anything remotely Trek-like with a straight face.
Chattanooga?! I'm not the only one that got out.... by Devil Tree	Mar 24th, 2004 10:39:35 AM
Crazy to think that moriarty lived in my quaint little home town....little six plex? sounds like someone lived near northgate. Anyways yeah for hellboy, sunshine. Star Trek is another series that needs some cool nerds to do what they are doing with bats right now.
loved Eternal Sunshine by imageburn13	Mar 24th, 2004 10:52:26 AM
Loved it. Every minute.
"Like a poor marksman..." by Monster Rain	Mar 24th, 2004 10:55:12 AM
YOU KEEP...MISSING...THE TARGET!!!" That's all I have to say to Paramount. Try as they might to inject some vitality into this shambling, rotted corpse of a franchise, they never get it right and we fans are left rubbing our aching bungs and saying "Ouch!" This prequel trilogy, should it come to pass, will represent the nadir of the "Star Trek" universe. Hiring a producer with that track record just screams "Trouble!" I forsee a lot of hunky, empty-headed actors in the lead roles, bad CG, cheap, toy-ready gadgets and a trailer cut to Blur's "Song 2." Cue trailer, cue vomit, cue soiled pants.
Trek is dead...let it lie! by Antiriad	Mar 24th, 2004 10:56:03 AM
its been going steadily downhill ever since DS9 came out. Now its a joke. Thanks to Rick Berman who should have been fired years ago after Insurrection and Voyagers opening seasons...the franchise should have been handed to Meyer and Nimoy. All too late now...
I don't have pity for STAR TREK fans- by RenoNevada2000	Mar 24th, 2004 11:10:52 AM
Any more than I pity a woman stupid enough to stay with her physically abusive husband. Get some dignity and walk away Trekkies. Just walk away.
PARDON ME, Devil Tree, IS THAT THE CHATTANOOGA CHOO-CHOO???? by GRATUITOUS_FLAME	Mar 24th, 2004 11:19:23 AM
NO, IT'S THE 11 AM EXPRESS TRAIN TO DON'T-GIVE-A-SHIT-VILLE!! ALLLLL ABOARD, WOOOO WOOO, TICKETS PLEASE! ...GRATUITOUS FLAME!
Prequels by Mafu	Mar 24th, 2004 11:48:07 AM
This is a bad, bad idea. I realize the Star Trek franchise has made studios a lot of money, but Captain Kirk - or whoever they picture as the main character - ain't no Aragorn. Never will be. Let the Star Trek universe die with dignity. Oh, wait - that isn't a possibility either. Just kill it. Move on. Seriously.
Prequels by Mafu	Mar 24th, 2004 11:48:22 AM
This is a bad, bad idea. I realize the Star Trek franchise has made studios a lot of money, but Captain Kirk - or whoever they picture as the main character - ain't no Aragorn. Never will be. Let the Star Trek universe die with dignity. Oh, wait - that isn't a possibility either. Just kill it. Move on. Seriously.
Trekkies 2 Release April 20th! Warp 11 playing by warp11	Mar 24th, 2004 02:18:41 PM
It was just announced on the bulletin board for that really popular California Star Trek Band Warp 11, that Trekkies 2 will be shown at the Newport Beach Film Festival April 20th! Warp 11, who is featured in the film is also suppose be playing at the after party for the showing. Warp 11 is also suppose to be in the DVD extras with Videos from two of their hit songs. Now this is great Star Trek news! Here is where the annoucement is at: http://pub21.ezboard.com/fwarp 11bbfrm1.showMessage?topicID=5 61.topic The band's page is www.warp11.com and their bulletin board is at www.warp11bb.com.
Zombie Stomper by neckbone	Mar 24th, 2004 05:13:42 PM
you are my friggin' hero, that cannonball run bit wins 'blast of the day' hands down.
Capt. Emilio Estevez and Chief Engineer Cuba Gooding Jr.... by RobertH2O	Mar 24th, 2004 06:22:32 PM
Jordan Kerner??? I'd rather have the un-dynamic duo of Berman & Braga stay on. The last thing STAR TREK needs is another shitty producer. I can see it now: STAR TREK: SNOW DOGS IN SPACE, STAR TREK: THE MIGHTY FEDERATION, or STAR TREK: INSPECTOR SPOCK. I'm not a huge fan that goes to the conventions, let alone dresses up as my favorite Klingon, but I am a moderate fan. It interests me. STAR TREK is heading in the wrong direction. I agree with a previous poster who praised BABYLON 5; that show was great through its first four seasons, and had some high points in the fifth. STAR TREK needs to do something like B5. It needs that nice serial aspect to it. STAR TREK is perfect for a serial format or a nice series of movies that tie in with each other like LotR or SW. But instead we get another shitty producer who will cast French Stewart as the wacky tactical officer who always pushes the wrong button at the right time. sigh
Deep Space Nine was the best Trek. by brattain	Mar 24th, 2004 06:23:15 PM
I doubt this article is true, but certainly firing Berman and Braga is the most necessary first step to fix Trek. (They should have been fired years ago and the DS9 crew should have been allowed to take over.) Berman and Braga must be world class asskissers because Paramount has fired people for far less than what they've done. Paramount, if you want to see what great Trek looks like, watch "The Visitor" "Rocks and Shoals" "In the Pale Moonlight" "The Changing Face of Evil" and "Call to Arms". That's when Trek was firing on all thrusters. The TOS movies were also great (with the one obvious exception). The best format for Trek (and the ONLY one that can actually please ALL the fans) is the telefilm. Three a year (one for every sweeps month) and put it on CBS. Each telefilm can take place in any generation, thereby pleasing the fans of all the shows. Paramount, look at Trek's successes over the last few years. People will still tune in for Trek TV events, but they won't stay around for a series. Figure it out, guys.
erm by belnez	Mar 24th, 2004 06:26:18 PM
star trek prequel trilogy? stories seem a bit inline with the star wars prequels... you sure this isnt an april fool youve read on a website and are passing off as news? i think so
Star Trek: April Fools! by RobertH2O	Mar 24th, 2004 06:28:29 PM
An April Fools prank??? One can only hope, but I wouldn't hold my breath. The old Will Rogers quote comes to mind: "When Congress makes a law, its a joke; when Congress makes a joke, its the law."
Eternal Sunshine...great great movie. by charliemunger	Mar 24th, 2004 07:11:04 PM
Can't stop thinking about it. No one mentions the great last line of the movie..."Okay."
Trek, Wars, Rings, and things... by MisterGrimloch	Mar 24th, 2004 07:40:21 PM
all are lovely, in their own special way.
Mafu.... by MisterGrimloch	Mar 24th, 2004 07:49:48 PM
while i'm hardly interested in praising ANYTHING having to do with Trek these past 15 or so years, i have to tell you that if you think the character of Kirk is no Aragorn, you are correct. Kirk is a far more known, iconic character, regardless of the current popularity of the Peter Jackson LOTR movies, or Tolkien's continued popularity as an author. even describing to you how utterly in the dark you are with regard to pop culture, after a comment of such naivete, is a total waste of time. i am assuring you, in no uncertain terms, that Aragorn is absolutely not as known of a character as Captain Kirk. if you think differently you are, simply put, incorrect.
re: star trek: damn, my butt just puckered. by Babba-Booey	Mar 24th, 2004 07:51:43 PM

It's about time! by bat725	Mar 24th, 2004 07:53:36 PM
The Star Trek franchise desperately needs to be reinvented, and they need to ditch the boring formula that has bogged down the franchise for so long. I believe in character interaction but Star Trek overdoes it to the point that its just plain boring. Most of the people who pay to see the movies are Trekkies, and that can't be profitable. I applaud Paramount's efforts to make the Star Trek brand more mainstream--to hell with the Trekkies.
[1] The reason they keep casting Selma Blair in comedies is tha by FrankDrebin	Mar 24th, 2004 08:16:20 PM
[2] I think Elijah Wood deserves kudos for being willing to play such a creep in ETERNAL SUNSHINE. After LOTR, a lesser actor would have insisted on ego-stroking/wallet-filling parts. [3] We don't need STAR TREK anymore. We have FIREFLY. ("Character-driven"? Check. "Wagon Train in space"? Check. Green-skinned dancing women? Get on it, Whedon!)
Snow Dogs?! D2/D3?! by Rein	Mar 24th, 2004 08:16:46 PM
The guy who made these crapfests is the new producer of the Trek movies? I'm glad they got rid of Brannon, but to replace him with this guy? What the hell is going on here?
THE STAR TREK THING SOUNDS AWSOME! I've had enough of Star Trek by The Outlander	Mar 24th, 2004 09:01:54 PM
It is about time Star Trek became epic. Paramount is doing the right thing.
I'm the biggest Star Trek fan there is, and I say stop fucking t by TheGinger Twit	Mar 24th, 2004 09:33:20 PM

TREK PREQUEL by FLIMaster	Mar 24th, 2004 09:40:06 PM
So they finally wisen up and use HARVE BENNET's idea of a prequel. Stupid hollywwod execs.
I AGREE by FLIMaster	Mar 24th, 2004 09:42:02 PM
Youre right about 82 being the best summer for sci-fi and fantasy fans. We shall never see their like ever again. PS:you forgot to mention THE ROAD WARRIOR and THE BEASTMASTER. Altho teh BEAST MASTER sucked big time!
R.I.P. by hal-9-thou	Mar 24th, 2004 09:42:56 PM
Star Trek... well, TNG might have ONE last fling, if it is a Q movie! I'd pay to see that.
Harve Bennett's prequel idea sucks... by RobertH2O	Mar 24th, 2004 10:25:43 PM
Dude, Harve Bennett's prequel idea blows. It would be The Hardy Boys in space. Kirk, Spock, and McCoy at Starfleet Academy solving mysteries each week. Utter crap. And not to expose my geek side too much, but according to TREK continuity Spock is way older than Kirk and McCoy and attended Starfleet Academy when Kirk was born. McCoy also was at Starfleet Academy before Kirk. Of course, if you like The Hardy Boys...
kirk, spock and prequel continuity by DMented	Mar 24th, 2004 10:36:23 PM
Actually I don't think Spock is THAT much older than Kirk. Just saw "The Enterprise Incident" again on Sci-Fi the other day, and Spock tells the female Romulan commander he's been a Starfleet officer 18 years. Figure Kirk was about 35 at the time, and in order to become captain, has probably been in Starfleet 15 years or so. Not too big an age difference. Having said that, I think this is a DUMB FUCKING IDEA. If B&B hated DS9, and now they're gone, BRING BACK FUCKING DS9! The Dominion becomes part of the Federation, there's your fuckin premise! How do we assimilate the Jem'Hadar, deal with all the many unknown races and deep dark secrets of the Changelings! COME ON, GODDAMN IT, MAKE THE SERIES!
Mori, I believe your scoops 99.9% of the time, but on this one I by Tall_Boy	Mar 24th, 2004 11:22:12 PM
I CAN'T believe that. I just can't. Its too wacky.
Fuck this retarded Hellboy shit! by Gere's AssGerbil	Mar 24th, 2004 11:45:52 PM
Enough with the Hellboy crap. The more bullshit praise you heap on this movie, the less I want to see it. AICN is not exactly known for its "fair and balanced" reviews but come on. You expect me to believe that a movie that looks so much like shit is every geek's wet dream? Yeah, right. Besides, Walking Tall will kick ass with a big stick. The Rock will destroy Ron Perelman, goofy makeup and all.
Tall_Boy by ManosTHOF	Mar 24th, 2004 11:49:55 PM
I don't know if it's that whacky.... Star Trek IV was going to be built around Eddie Murphy in the early stages. Knowing Paramount, a ridiculous idea like this is on the table. (The only good thing they have done for the franchise in years was to let Bob Wise have another go at recutting and polishing up TMP) Who saved the day when Eddie Murphy bailed? Nick Meyer. Give this franchise to Nick Meyer and Leonard Nimoy I say.
That one dude was right... by Johnny Smith	Mar 25th, 2004 12:05:15 AM
...the telefilm idea is brilliant. Give the franchise to Meyer, Nimoy and Ira Steven Behr, and I think we'd all be very happy geeks. Meyer and Nimoy are responsible for the best films of the TOS series, and since DS9 was the best of the TV series, and Behr was the showrunner, well, then...we'd have a goldmine on our hands, people. C'mon. Please? And please lets this article not be true. I'll kill someone if it is.
Hell is motiveless by Raul Monkey	Mar 25th, 2004 01:47:04 AM
I will add my props to the telefilm idea as well. And yes, Deep Space Nine was the most enthralling, exciting, meaningful AND action-packed series of them all. (Anyone who calls it a boring-ass soap opera obviously didn't stick around for the War.) And DS9 was produced SIMULTANEOUSLY alongside the dregs of Voyager, Generations and Insurrection: the horse never died, its just that we're zooming in on the big piles of manure in the corner of the yard.
honest, Hellboy is disappointing. by Dano	Mar 25th, 2004 04:14:51 AM
I've seen it. I like movies. The only Hero Worship I like comes from the B-52's. my take: It looks good, but the script, especially in the last thirty minutes, rips away anything good about it, and worse, what it was building up to. It was pedantic pap that even Adam Sandler would find trite. At least he didn't play the lead. Enjoy the extra topping on you popcorn- quickly.
This could be a joke based on a new CGI Trek Trailer at bringbac by Informed	Mar 25th, 2004 08:11:06 AM
There's a new fan-made CGI Trek trailer that has all the captains, and among them is Captain Kirk with a CGI body. That could be what this fake rumor was based on. You can see the trailer at http://www.bringbackkirk.com/t railer.html.
other advantages by brattain	Mar 25th, 2004 11:22:01 AM
If Paramount makes a series of Trek telefilms, they will have a much better chance of making a profit. Look at the success of SF Channel's Dune series. DS9 was able to give us incredible effects footage with a TV budget. Imagine what they could accomplish with a 20 million dollar budget (most big sets can be duplicated on computer these days, they don't have to rebuild the entire Promenade). Since people still tune in for Trek TV events, they could make a lot of money back on the first airing alone. Add repeats both on CBS, UPN, and cable, and Paramount has made some money. However, that is just the beginning. A telefilm does not require any major actors. Only the ones who are interested could come back. Therefore no multimillion dollar payouts to just one actor. Then, if they put that telefilm on DVD with never before seen footage and other extras, I guarantee that would sell well since most Trek fans are completists. I think even if one totally hates my idea, they should concede that it is worth just one attempt to see what would happen. Paramount, pick a popular Trek (ie, TOS, TNG, DS9) find out what actors would like to return, write a good story with lots of impressive effects (if they could do it in Sacrifice of Angels, a telefilm could at least do that), and cap the budget around 20 million. This is virtually a no risk investment. Just try once and see what happens.
A "Q" movie is in order .... either that or bring back Wesley Cr by trekfan	Mar 25th, 2004 12:43:39 PM
Wasn't it "Q" that introduced the Next Generation crew to the Borg. That's been some of the best episodes yet. Get John de Lancie to come back and somehow help out the Enterprise crew...or,get back Wesley Crusher to come in and take over the new Enterprise and crew. He was like a walking Data anyway.
TO BOLDLY BLOW LIKE NO TREK HAS BLOWN BEFORE!! by ranthony	Mar 25th, 2004 12:45:28 PM
First off, every time anything comes out that's news from Paramount, it's announced in the above fashion. I'm sure that is why they don't bother listening to the fans. The responses on aintitcool talkback clearly show that fans are not a large portion of his readers/posters. ...OTOH, using Enterprise as a guide (a show I have been unable to make myself watch) I have to say that a series of prequal movies in the same vein just doesn't do anything for me. New blood is good (no Berman, no Braga), but I'm not holding my breath either. There needs to be an authority within the creative process that remembers what Trek is about. Otherwise we'll get what one of the posters says we all want, "to see space s**t blow up", and not much else. -Tony
Trek dies a sloooow death... by cooper2000	Mar 25th, 2004 12:50:49 PM
This is the dumbest and most rediculous news I have heard in years. Any fanboy could think of a better idea than a prequel trilogy; something that they rejected long ago and didnt sound good then. There was a time when they wanted to do a young Kirk,Spock,McCoy movie and that idea blew then. Do a movie with all the crews or bring back Kirk.
They should just let Star Trek die by Volstaff	Mar 25th, 2004 02:12:51 PM
I mean seriously,not even the Trekkies ( oh my bad..Trekkers) seem all that crazy about Star Trek any more. If you want to bring back some good Sf TV shows,let's get behind Firefly ( actually the movie is titled Serenity).That was a great show that seemed to be hitting it's stride just as they pulled the plug on it. Or how about Space:Above and beyond? Anything God,Any fucking thing except for more Star Trek crap. The show lost it's voice and consience after Roddenberry died ( been downhill ever since,you could see it in the last couple seasons of Next Generation). Just let it go.Please.Do it for the children.
Paramount Press Release: "From the producers of 'Snow Day' and ' by Spacesheik	Mar 25th, 2004 03:35:52 PM
Hollywood is so idiotic, I can seriously see this happening under the noses of Sherry Lansing and Jonathan Dolgen. Stranger things have happened in 'Paramount.'
this talkback... by MisterGrimloch	Mar 25th, 2004 07:30:41 PM
is supposedly devoted to several different topics, and yet, as one will notice by reading the posts, 90% of the replies are concerning Star Trek. Trek may be dead, creatively, but there is obviously still a large group of people concerned about its ongoing fate.
BRING SHATNER AND NIMOY BACK by DARTH VOODOO	Mar 25th, 2004 11:15:51 PM
Who cares how old they are BRING BACK KIRK AND SPOCK WITH THE CAST OF TNG for a final Star Trek film and then let the series rest for 10 years. A 70 year old Kirk would still be better than any of that Ds9,Voy,Enterprise bullshit that has nearly killed Star Trek since they they threw Kirk off that fucking cliff. Kirk and Spock would bring fans back to the series.
Political correctness killed Trek many years ago. by bioforge	Mar 26th, 2004 02:40:38 AM
It's dead they just dont know it yet. RIP Kirk and crew.
Bring back Shatner and Nimoy and the movie will make 100 million by Spacesheik	Mar 26th, 2004 05:39:22 AM
I shit you not. The nostalgia for them is unbelievable and the fanboys will eat it up. Have some kind of intergalactic war, like MIDWAY or THE LONGEST DAY in space with Admiral Kirk at Starfleet overseeing troop movements and Spock as a Minister in Vulcan trying to broker a peace deal. Throw in cameos by TNG and DS9 regulars and the film could be huge. We have never really had a STAR TREK war film, we've had political (ST VI), social (ST IV, INSURRECTION), black hats (NEMESIS, ST II) but never intergalactic war.
Geez... at the very least, they could have brought in Straczynsk by SpacePhil	Mar 26th, 2004 05:32:13 PM
... think about that. Straczynski writing for Star Trek. You can dream, right?
Eternal Sunshine by Tokyo_Drifter	Mar 26th, 2004 08:18:22 PM
I loved the movie. It was great. Best movie of the year so far, but Mori, you ruined the ending! You mentioned about Mary and the tapes. First you said you wanted people to discover the things in the movie, but then you ruin the ending, subtly, but ruined it nonetheless. Anyways... Great movie!
APRIL FOOLS @ startrek.com by TREK-prequil	Mar 26th, 2004 11:58:05 PM
Go to startrek.com in the lower right hand corner there is a message about important news coming out thursday!!!!!!! Thats APRIL FIRST, APRIL FOOLS DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! whel HERE's to hoping
I'd take Braga and Berman over THAT anyday by TheMatarife	Mar 27th, 2004 05:08:26 AM
Seriously, good luck killing the franchise. Jesus, someone at Paramount either needs to stop doing or start doing BLOW, whichever is which. How about you bring in some fuckers with talent like the DS9 staff or say, Seth MacFarlane, whos a fan, or Matt Groening, also a fan. Hell, maybe even Moore would come back.
Star Trek by poodyglitz	Mar 27th, 2004 03:53:25 PM
I would agree that hiring J. Michael Straczynski would be a better choice for Paramount. However, it would have to be determined how well he knows the franchise and timeline. It's about time that they put someone at the helm who had an emotional stake in "Star Trek", as well as a decent track record. I'm sure that "Snow Dogs" was fine for little kids, but "Star Trek" is a bit more sophisticated. Any "prequel" would have to take place in the current "Enterprise" era (the show is about the first ship named "Enterprise"). Here's an idea that might work. The pilot episode saw a Klingon crash landing on Earth. That put Earth on the Klingon Empire's radar. Since they are a race of conquerors, Earth should seem like an easy mark (they must be laughing at a ship that has a grappling hook and not a tractor beam). Even though the Vulcans are watching over Earth somewhat, they can be distracted by a Klingon-manufactured catastrophe. The action could be there and the relationships between the main characters can be better developed. "Star Trek" has been very sketchy since "DS9" (and I've enjoyed "Trek" since I was a kid in the 60's). Most of the movies stink to high heaven. I would really love to see -- as was mentioned before -- "Star Trek" reach epic status. It is one of the few real pieces of American mythology we have. It should always have been more sophisticated and provocative than "Star Wars". The caliber of people I think are qualified to carry the "Trek" torch would also include: James Cameron (hey, I can dream, can't I?) Peter Jackson Sam Raimi Brian Singer The Wachowski Brothers Otherwise, you might as well let the Cohen Brothers handle it. At least it will be entertaining to watch the ship go down (not that I want that)!
Kirk and Spock could save Star Trek by DARTH VOODOO	Mar 28th, 2004 01:54:55 PM
A film with Kirk and Spock(Shatner and Nimoy not some stupid prequel) could save the franchise. This film would be an event film. Much like Star Trek use to be. If you take inflation into account TMP and TVH are two of the biggest grossing films of all time. Compared to the last Trek film that didn't even finish in the top 50 films the year it was released. Is it just a coincedence that the best selling Star Trek book ever is "The Return" by William Shatner? This is the book that brings Kirk back from that stupid fucking nexus thing and puts him along w/Spock in battle with the TNG crew. This is what people want. IT'S ABOUT THE CHARACTERS STUPID. NOBODY CARES ABOUT NEW TREK THEY WANT THE REAL THING. To me it's a no brainer. Kirk and Spock are by far the most popular characters in the Trek universe. People care about them. They are cultural icons. How many people besides die hard fans of Voy,Ent and Ds9 (There is about 10 of them out there) even know who Janeway or Archer or Sisko are? Nobody cares about new Star Trek. BRING BACK KIRK AND SPOCK.
Trek today is like 007 of the late 80's by DARTH VOODOO	Mar 28th, 2004 02:25:22 PM
Star Trek today reminds me of the James Bond films of the mid to late 80's. Trek today is having an identity crisis much like the Bond films of that era. The commercial failure of those films was simple. The public did not accept Timothy Dalton (I thought he was pretty good) as James Bond. When tbtb finally were allowed to give the public what it wanted (Pierce Brosnan as 007) the films once again became huge blockbusters. I feel that (among other things) the biggest commercial problem with Star Trek today is that Berman and Co. are not giving the people what they want. Most people think of Star Trek as Kirk and Spock and perhaps Picard. They are the cultural icons not Janeway and Archer. NOBODY FUCKING CARES ABOUT THEM. I feel that Berman and Co. simply care about pushing THEIR brand of Star Trek. What they created and not what the public at large wants out of Star Trek. Todays show are PC bores with boring, bland interchangeable characters that only a very small group of people care about. Here's what you do to save Star Trek 1/ Bring back Shatner and Nimoy for a final film that involves all casts (all fans would be happy) Much like that great Bring Back Kirk trailer suggests. The film would be at least in the top 10 for that year. 2/Lose Rick Berman: The series needs new blood and new ideas. I think Berman has done some very good things with Trek. But his time is up 3/Set the next Trek series after Voyager. But allow for Kirk,Picard and other popular characters to at least have some type of role. Perhaps a once a year cameo or something. Why waste the great heritage of Star Trek? 4/ The next series should revolve around Riker and his crew. In reality I don't think you could get Patrick Stewart back for a weekly tv series. But since TNG is the second most popular series. Give the general public what they want. If TNG is popular bring it back in this form. 5/Bring in good writers and directors and let them play in this universe. The whole thing just seems so simple to me. Give Star Trek fans what they want and Star Trek will once again be a commercial and cultural force.
Reviving Trek by Treadhead	Mar 28th, 2004 06:55:56 PM
I can't really see any movies and/or series revolving around Kirk and Spock, or even involving them in any significant way, as being viable vehicles for reviving Trek. Shatner and Nimoy, to be honest, as past their prime; and we may have already seen all the interesting stories about the characters of Kirk and Spock that can be written. There comes a point when certain story-lines (and, perhaps, myths) reach the end of their energy. To my mind there can be only two fates for the mythos in the near future; death (perhaps to lie fallow for a generation), or a radical re-imagining. Trek has suffered for years from dull, safe stories that amount to little more than neat little morality tales, characters who were never in any real danger, and were little more than cardboard cut-outs, and a persistently optimistic tone about humanity and the future (yes, I know that's part of Trek's appeal, but it puts a lot of drag on creating genuine story tension). All of these points amount to almost a "how not to write a good story" instruction manual. Contrast Enterprise, for instance, with Firefly-- the latter has all the elements that are missing in Enterprise-- flawed, but human, characters who are often in conflict with one another, storylines that kick around fundamental questions of life, a gritty universe that is dangerous on many different levels, humor that is integral to the characters and not tacked on, and, btw, a spaceship that is not some shiny flagship, but is a bucket so broken-down and quirky it becomes a character in-and-of itself. Perhaps that is why Firefly appears to be the coming mythos, despite an aborted series and an as-yet to be produced movie. Trek could turn itself around, but only through radically rethinking.

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