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Additional Crew Named For Peter Jackson's KING KONG remake!

sorry by the_talkbacker	Feb 24th, 2004 07:28:27 AM
never thought I'd want to do a first post myself, but I couldn't resist it. Now fuck Harry: the sexiest tomboy beanpole on the planet!! And how about some werewolfs and vampires in King Kong!!
does anyone know of a good site for movie news...? by web labrador	Feb 24th, 2004 07:34:32 AM
i'm stuck to find one...
Sean Astin directing FF?? by Louis Cyphre	Feb 24th, 2004 07:37:49 AM
Sorry Sean but hail no! I'm voting Spielberg (an old school comics fan, right?), James Cameron ... Anyone 'big'!
It'll be interesting to see something original from PJ to follow by Atticus Finch	Feb 24th, 2004 07:49:56 AM
Wonder when that will be?
King Kong is this generations.......King Kong? by Bcphil	Feb 24th, 2004 07:50:27 AM
But with less nude natives.
I'm Sorry Sean by JohnnyOats	Feb 24th, 2004 08:06:40 AM
you were wonderful in LOTR, but fuck no, i just dont see it happening for you and the FF. Even with the painless episode of Angel you did, i dont think you can work the FF. as Mel might say, "Gotta let is go Sean, gotta let it go"
KING KONG WILL RULE THEM ALL by Shad0wfax	Feb 24th, 2004 08:13:28 AM
What? Why isn't this being deluged with the rabid Rings-fans slobbering about how this will kick SW: EIIIs ass? Are they still all asleep after getting tricked by Jackson's devilish directorial talents with his five false endings?
Maybe the stink from the Delaurentis clunker will finally fade. by manwiththedogs	Feb 24th, 2004 08:34:08 AM
Jackson sounds as if he`s gonna give the big the respect that he deserves.
Maybe the stink from the Delaurentis clunker will finally fade. by manwiththedogs	Feb 24th, 2004 08:35:48 AM
Jackson sounds as if he`s gonna give the big guy the respect that he deserves.
A wonderful bit about the meter, similar to... by Mooseboy	Feb 24th, 2004 08:37:26 AM
when it was discovered that the coat Frank Morgan as Professor Marvel was once owned by L.F. Baum.
production designer named? by Hud	Feb 24th, 2004 08:47:12 AM
jeez, how about a spoiler alert next time?
The world is moving so fast and we are all rushing to just to ke by darth_billy	Feb 24th, 2004 08:50:04 AM
I would probably think that Sean Astin was a good idea to direct FF, after all he was very prominent in one of the greatest films ever, and that must have rubbed something good onto him. However, when I heard that he is up agains Steven Sodenbergh (sp?). Who can get George clooney as Mr Fantastic....... Well forget it. Sorry Sean but there would be no comperition in my book. And as for The_Talkbacker. I know how you feel, I always thought "first" posters were dicks, untill I nearly got one myself, the temptation was too large. But you missed the other famous AICN cliche.... King Kng should be played by Hulk Hogan. "Rhoarggghgh, Brother"
More crew members announced!! by PacinoHatersGoHo	Feb 24th, 2004 08:57:12 AM
Apparently they've hired two gaffers whose only job is to handle Naomi Watts's nipples on set.
I'm generally not a big fan of remakes, but this sounds like it by minderbinder	Feb 24th, 2004 09:03:15 AM
Here's a funny twist of fate: the only reason PJ made LotR was because Kong got shelved (because Godzilla bombed). He had a whole FX department sitting around with nothing to do so he picked the most FX heavy project he could think of. If you're worried about PJ making a good non-tolkien project (or an original one) go watch Heavenly Creatures. The man's got it.
Lesnie - DP by Rupee88	Feb 24th, 2004 09:21:24 AM
Great to hear that Lesnie is aboard as the cinematograhper. this is the guy who lensed LOTR and it will guarantee that Kong is a very pretty movie to watch.
I was watching THE GOONIES with the girlfriend this weekend by RenoNevada2000	Feb 24th, 2004 09:22:03 AM
And about the middle of Mikey's third speech about it how it was The Goonies time to shine, etc. and blah I began to think what great fun it would be to overdub Astin's GOONIES' speeches onto his LOTR seasons.
Sorry Astin, one short does not make you a director by DannyOcean01	Feb 24th, 2004 09:31:10 AM
No support for the FF gig.
re:Jackson by donkeyboi	Feb 24th, 2004 09:39:19 AM
No disrespect, but Jackson has already made several great movies outside of the Ring-o-verse. Pretty much every movie he made except for The Frighteners, and it was an interesting failure, were pretty top notch. In a ten year period he made arguably the greatest horror comedy since the dawn of mankind, two of the funniest cult movies this side of John Waters, a great mockumentary, and my favorite film of the nineties, Heavenly Creatures. I think he will probably do just fine outside of Middle Earth.
Sean Astin has to prove himself capable of directing a full leng by mortsleam	Feb 24th, 2004 09:46:19 AM
I think it would be a great idea to have him direct...The Hobbit. Under the supervision of Peter Jackson and with the resources of WETA. He could aslo follow Jackson's Hitchcock homage and insert himself in as Hamfast "Gaffer" Gamgee. It's territory he knows well and a crew he's worked with before. Hell, he even direct Andrew Lesnie in The Long and the Short of It. He has just the right...let's say "lighter" touch than PJ's penchant for heavy-handed spectacle and it's almost a can't miss surefire hit. That would give him the credibility necessary to tackle a larger project. But hell, if Marvel can give Green Hornet to a master of point-and-shoot static two-shots like Kevin Smith, they can probably risk Sean Astin. At least The Long and the Short of It had some interesting camera moves. Oh yeah, uhm, King Kong will rock.
You people who wont support Astin on FF are idiots by Blok Narpin	Feb 24th, 2004 09:51:51 AM
Someone with a passion for the material wants to direct so bad he's fighting for it, and you guys won't support him? Great. Maybe he won't get it. Maybe Marvel will hand it off the someone who doesnt give a damn like McG, or Joel Shumacher, or that guy whos doing Catwoman. The hell with you guys. I hope Astin gets it. He's proven he can direct (watch ANGEL!). Now it's time to let him prove he can play with the big boys.
Just show me the Kong in full motion by Umorizmo	Feb 24th, 2004 09:59:20 AM
and I'd be a happy man www.morellismovieguide.com
Sean as FF Director? by BIG-BOY-BOB	Feb 24th, 2004 10:16:18 AM

Astin`s SAG speech pissed off fandom... by dinosauron	Feb 24th, 2004 10:28:09 AM
and now it`s JRD`s fault that he couldn`t thank them for the support? What the f***? Astin went on and on and on about his mom having been the president of SAG, and that film-making should return to Sates(he agreed with Tim Robbins dissing runaway production and thus "forgetting" that LOTR was made outside US!), basically he made a political statement instead of thanking LOTR fandom and letting his cast mates have their say. BTW, Harry, your pal Del Torro has just scooped Chud.com on the latest Potter flick (gets 2 thumbs up from him), where`s the news on your site?
Sean as FF Director? by BIG-BOY-BOB	Feb 24th, 2004 10:29:30 AM
WTF, yeah i'm sure he'd love to get our support for that gig but did any of you actually see the Long & Short of it? what a piece of crap, one of those student type short films that stretches a small gag too far, predictable from the outset and badly shot. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't normally slag off Sean (Goonies, Toy Soldiers, White Water Winter are all fine examples of classic 80's pap that I have fond memories of) but he'd be way out of his depth Directing FF & quite frankly Harry you should know better than to suggest such a thing. For my money i'd have either Kurt Wimmer (Equilibrium) Speilberg, Soderbergh or even George Clooney himself (COADM was the nut's).
I've read the script. The opening is Fantastic. The rest is a mi by TheGinger Twit	Feb 24th, 2004 10:31:23 AM

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Just goes to show how slow they are on this site now that Harry's off doing his film, I sent this in yesterday & still haven't seen it mentioned anywhere, the site is French but the link for the trailer is on the bottom of the page. Prepare to rub your eyeballs in disbelief (why have I never heard of this film before?) http://immortel-lefilm.com/#
YES, the script is written. but it's so shit it's being re-worke by TheGinger Twit	Feb 24th, 2004 10:42:39 AM

Ya know, when ORson Welles was 26, he had already directed what by mortsleam	Feb 24th, 2004 11:12:25 AM
The good thing about these movies being over is that maybe you can stop being such a whiny fucking prick. Get some help.
Peter Jackson is the sexiest tomboy beanpole on the planet....pe by Shigeru	Feb 24th, 2004 11:25:05 AM
Hmm...Maybe Sean Astin will do a great job...he hasn't done a feature tho....well who knows, gotta love the guy.
Sean Slaps Jackson by Literate	Feb 24th, 2004 11:29:30 AM
Sean wants to thank his fans? How about thanking Peter Jackson? His entire SAG speech about bringing productions back to the U.S. was a slap in the face to Jackson and his crew of New Zealanders. Without Jackson and LOTR, Sean wouldn't have been on that stage to bore everyone with his politics. He's a clueless, ungrateful jerk, and he should be ashamed of himself.
Kong gets shot and falls off a big building by I Dunno	Feb 24th, 2004 11:55:48 AM
How many times does this have to be done? Not to mention the fact that it's going to be all CGI and look like crap just like LOTR did. And Naomi Watts is too old.
I think Peter Jackson should make "King Kong" with Hulk Hogan as by mbaker	Feb 24th, 2004 12:01:30 PM
"Bondes are scarce around here, Brother!"
Sean Astin for World Leader! by wash	Feb 24th, 2004 12:08:02 PM
Actually not. Anyone see him on the Bill Maher show a few weeks ago? I was embarassed for him - he was like that kid in your college class who wants to show everyone how smart he is - except everything he says is the opposite of insightful.
Donkey Kong is this generation's King Kong by mbaker	Feb 24th, 2004 12:09:09 PM
Had to be said.
hey by ZO	Feb 24th, 2004 12:12:09 PM
how about we let a novice director direct a 135 mill plus budget, superhero film!! great!
King Kong is stupid by Indiana Clones	Feb 24th, 2004 12:12:44 PM
Can someone tell me what's so great about King Kong's story? I hope this too-personal project shows Jackosn for the fat talentless effect-loving B movie nerd loser he is.
Isn't the first draft online? by Kielbasa	Feb 24th, 2004 12:44:01 PM
If PJ says he hasn't even written a first draft then what the hell is this? http://www.scifiscripts.com/sc ripts/kingkong.txt I know it says its around 8 years old but I would think that you could at least call it a first draft, no?
King Kong will be a very big hit indeed by mortsleam	Feb 24th, 2004 12:59:16 PM
There's two ways to have an argument. One way is to clearly, concisely and logically lay out your points of disagreement, listen to what your opponent says, and then attempt to counter with a reasonable critique. Another way is to disregard what your opponent says and say "I'm sure that's how you feel, but you're wrong, because..." and then re-state your hypothesis, showing you actually have no grasp of the issues or the basic concepts of interpersonal communication. Of course, failing that, you could always throw an immature temper tantrum hissy fit and shout your displeasure until you're hoarse, destroying for all time any shred of credibility or respect the other person might have had for you or your opinions. Only one of these methods can be expected to produce a meaningful outcome. The others are pissing in the wind.
WTF? No Gay Robots? by Darth Phallus	Feb 24th, 2004 02:04:21 PM

Just get this thing over with so Jackson can move on to direct " by P.H. Warrior	Feb 24th, 2004 02:05:32 PM
...while Ian McKellan, Ian Holme, Hugo Weaving and Andy Serkis are still young enough to do it. That's the project that Jackson MUST do. Oh, and go ahead and give Fantastic Four to Samwise. Be nice to have the project in the hands of a true geek.
Fay Wray by SLEAZY DINOSAUR	Feb 24th, 2004 02:16:02 PM
She's still alive, why don't they just have her reprise her role? Make it a very old Kong, he could have streaks of gray in his fur.
Super-cd-set of LOTR soundtrack by dragonfrog	Feb 24th, 2004 03:39:42 PM
YES! A complete unabridged LOTR soundtrack disc set! I am salivating! I am so there buying that! My esteem for Howard Shore's LOTR score grows unabated. Already I enjoy listening to all 3 scores back to back (with Return to Lorien from the TTT special edition cd inserted in its chronologically rightful place in FOTR) on my walkman via a personally made double cassette edition. I always wished the DVD's would have included a soundtrack only option. But this would be the next best thing. Actually it might be even better (if costlier).
"..but he'd be way out of his depth Directing FF.." by NiceMarmot	Feb 24th, 2004 03:43:29 PM
You gotta be kidding me. How could anyone be out of their depth directing a fucking comic book movie? The special effects supervisor pretty much directs those anyway. May as well let Astin learn the ropes on a genre that's as much a blight on this decade as costume epics were to the '50s, beach party & Elvis movies were to the '60's, disaster films to the '70s, etc.
All right! King Kong for a new generation! by Tinfang	Feb 24th, 2004 04:23:46 PM
With Peter Jackson giving it his magic touch, this will be another huge money-maker. After Lord of the Rings, he
Sean wasn't "dissing" the Kiwi's or Aussies - he was responding by Quiddler	Feb 24th, 2004 04:35:12 PM
Folks, I don't know how many of you were paying attention, but fully 1/2 of Tim Robbin's acceptance speech for SAG's Best Supporting Actor. Robbins (whose wife Susan Sarandon had taken a shot at LOTR during the Golden Globes) said that belonging to a union meant you didn't have to work 18 hour day, 6 days a week. For those of us who have viewed the LOTR DVD documentaries, or read ANY of the cast interviews, you have to know that this was a direct reference to LOTR. He then followed it up by saying that "But, we get overtime...except in Australia." When he said that I thought - "hey, moron, if you're gonna make little pissy remarks about LOTR, you ought to know that it was filmed in NEW ZEALAND!" Then Robbins went on to say how we need to get more productions back in the US ... blah blah ... how "runaway" productions were preventing actors from earning a living ... blah blah. Again, it was OBVIOUS to whom he was directing his comments. So, when LOTR was announced as "Best Ensemble", I was praying "Oh, PLEASE don't take the bait!" For better or worse, Sean decided to take him on. I respect that he felt the need to do so; after all, I'm not sure I would have been able to remain cool and detached. The first part of his speech was totally appropriate - Fine, Mr. Robbins, let's bring more productions here. But let's ALSO pay more attention to the Union when it's NOT the SAG Award Season. (coughbitchcough) The fact that Sean kept going was a little unfortunate, but, hey, the boy felt the need to respond. Next time, Sean? Think: Sound Bite. Make one main point, THEN go on to thank the fans. The more politically charged stuff can wait for the post-awards interviews.
Kielbasa, they're throwing out that draft and starting over. by minderbinder	Feb 24th, 2004 05:04:36 PM
That one was probably written ten years ago.
I'm here, I'M HERE...! Now Peter Jackson is truly the sexiest ga by Robofag	Feb 24th, 2004 05:19:34 PM
I know I know, he`s no cowboy, just a wacky Kiwi with wonderful bare feets (ever saw that thick, ditry, leather that he has under his feets? Watch the Extended cut of the TTT DVD... wooo... sexy...:))
"let's not forget how much PJ trashed the original works of J.R. by minderbinder	Feb 24th, 2004 08:03:34 PM
Damn, I'd love to see more original works trashed like that.
Hey, that was pretty good Ancient Lights! by morGoth	Feb 24th, 2004 08:29:52 PM
Almost had me fooled for a minute. The GIRLFRIEND ending, however...really, really cheap. You must do better! Heh, Times Changed but Ancient Lights didn't {[:^) ** Oh yeah, I'm glad that Peter Jackson was put here on earth (by Illuvatar, no less) so that he could make the greatest movies that anybody could ever make or even hope to make. In fact, why shouldn't everyone else STOP making movies. Actually, no need to do that, just let Jackson direct them all remotely from around the world via SATCOM. Maybe then, hacks like (fill in the blank) will learn something about movie making. Of course, they will also realize that NO movie is complete without a wizard, a Dwarf, an Elf, loads of tarks and at least one Mumak charge, as it should be. That's right, sensitive movies and even those of the forbidden fruit nature such as his current woman/beast love story. I think the script should bring out the character of the lead heroine as told in the credits of the original KK movie script Appendices. But if none of that makes it in; bottom line? I trust PJ. Hey! I said it again!
feebles 2 by ohiotrespassers	Feb 24th, 2004 08:31:28 PM
Samwise made an ass of himself on the SAG awards and he rubbed me the wrong way on Bill Maher the other day, seems a little smug. Award shows are so overblown...."look at us, we're ACTORS, aren't we special, lets stroke each other and pretend we're important." Screw Kong, i want feebles 2. - (www.ohiotrespassers.com)
I still think Kate Winslet should play Ann Darrow... by Red Raider	Feb 24th, 2004 08:41:41 PM
Besides, if PJ is planning on re-creating the infamous "clothes peeling" scene, I'd rather have Kong stripping a valuptuous, blonde Winslet than a bonerack like Naomi Watts. And remember PJ, this time let Kong FINISH THE JOB! I mean, I want Winslet HOLY SMOKE naked, Ok?!!!!
Who will be BEST BOY? What about KEY GRIP? Dammit, I need to k by Randfilms	Feb 24th, 2004 08:59:09 PM
Below the line, baby! They have rights too!
I heart Naomi Watts by Christopher3	Feb 24th, 2004 09:03:27 PM
Is there a giant snake in this one?
thank you , Literate by trystero	Feb 24th, 2004 09:47:04 PM
As a expat-New Zealander now living in Australia, it amused me to hear Sean spout off like he did - without this horrible outside-of-the-US production, he'd still be out of a job and living off The Goonies and Kangaroo Court (wasn't that 10 years ago?). Also, Harry your movie will suck, and Monica Belluci is the sexiest tomboy beanpole on the planet, and should be in a movie with vampires and werewolves and gay robots and Hulk Hogan and all the others funny things that are the only reason to come to this site at the moment since (yesterday's) news is becoming infrequently posted.
Rudy has more heart than any of the "talented" directors therefo by Agrajag	Feb 24th, 2004 10:14:45 PM
So Sean should get a big budget action flick because he has read and liked the comic books? Because he's worked with one great director before and it might have rubbed off on him(maybe)? Because we should see what he's capable of? Because he made a pointless short film that was charitably thrown on the DVD? You guys are all fucking stupid and should be beaten with blunt edge of an axe.
Immortel by Nerdboy1423	Feb 24th, 2004 10:20:34 PM
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Yeah! Bring on a movie based on the ORIGINAL Donkey Kong...not t by Sith Witch	Feb 25th, 2004 12:15:02 AM

Chicks dig Lord of the Rings by Agrajag	Feb 25th, 2004 02:27:51 AM
A lot of girls I know are fans of the movie. I can't count how many times I got head after explaining the silmarillion to some chick in the corner at a party. And when I say party I mean my empty dorm room and when I say chick I mean my roommate in an arwen costume. ZING! Just kidding guys, great books, great movies but I am completely serious when I say that Sean Astin directing FF is the worst idea in the entire history of the world, even worse than the spanish inquistition.
Fuck you Naysayers, Naomi Watts is the shit. by AshesOfDonnie	Feb 25th, 2004 04:31:34 AM
and why is PJ even bothering with King Kong. hell probably cut out the best part in the movie(kong klimbing the empire state or whatever building ) because he never liked that part of the movie. Kong will have no death scene and jacksone will hope the audience will assume Kong died and wil have to wait until King King EE DVD comes out. and all this so PJ can add 500 multiple endings whch will feature a very gay scene with the reunion of kong and his buddies on top of a bed. and a special added scene where the natives are told to take back their villages and the lands stolen from them from the other rival tribe that jackson will make up. true story
Ah, thanks for clearing that up Ancient Lights... by morGoth	Feb 25th, 2004 06:16:32 AM
...my GIRLFRIEND, who's also a Playboy Bunny/Sport's Illustrated model and champ body-builder, agrees with you. Huh? What's that dear, yes, I washed the dishes and gave the cat his bath
AshesOfDonnie, that was some funny shit by I Dunno	Feb 25th, 2004 08:13:21 AM
And so true. Fuck Jackson in his "let's cut out the death of the main villain so we can have more screen time of hobbits crying" ass. The movie was done in the 30's. Done. The ONLY reason to remake it is to improve the effects. Number one, that says that the filmmaker believes that FX are the most important part of a film, which is what most LOTR geeks accuse Lucas of. Number two, the monkey's inevitably going to be CGI and look just as fake as the 30's version only in a different way. And why is Harry drooling over this, I thought he hated remakes?
Actually, all joking aside, chicks LOVE the lotr movies. by minderbinder	Feb 25th, 2004 08:27:13 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if there were more female fans of the movie than male ones.
Some originality, please!!! by Gabor	Feb 25th, 2004 08:59:52 AM
C'mon! He just did the rings trilogy, now he wants to do a remake!? Surely he's got some ideas of HIS OWN somewhere, right?
Astin on F.F.? Why not? by TheWoodMan	Feb 25th, 2004 09:40:02 AM
There are only two ways to go here... either a "name" director, who will be driven by his ego to put his own "spin" on it, or to "update" or "re-imagine" it (which will produce a result that will make Schumacher's "Batman" movies look like masterpieces); or, an unknown who will be so appropriately overwhelmed & intimidated by the history and popularity of the characters that he'll be, literally, afraid to fuck it up. Look, the way the superhero movie genre's going down the toilet (after a "Golden Age" of, what, two movies?), the chances of a "Fantastic Four" picture not sucking are incredibly remote... so why not Astin? It's not like it takes any experience or remarkable ability to do a movie like this... Jack Kirby drew out the storyboards and Stan Lee wrote the dialogue FORTY YEARS AGO... the Casting Dept. will provide some pretty faces, the Cinematographer will point the camera in their general direction, the Special Effects shop will provide 90% of the movie anyway and the Editor will assemble it all together. Seems to me the "Director" on such a project would just be hanging around on set, getting in the way.
Jackson's KONG will end with Kong falling off the building... he by Commando Cody	Feb 25th, 2004 11:55:58 AM
I read that Jackson said there might be room in KONG for some of the LOTR actors. Well, all I hope and pray is that Jackson doesn't cast Sean Astin in KONG lest we have to suffer through the image of Sam--I mean, Sean--wading through a crowd of NYers at the very end, crying like a baby as he tries to reach Frodo--I mean, Ann, who is magically in a boat now. Or worse, end KONG with endings as lame ass as Sam--I mean, Sean--giving a truly boring ass speech that's supposed to move me (and does, to the exit)...or worst of all, having KONG end with waaaaaaaay boring multiple endings ala ROTK. Loved that movie for the most part, but I honestly couldn't bring myself to see it a second time in the theater because there was no way I was gonna sit through those groan inducing never-ending endings again. So, really, Peter...he climbs the building, gets shot, falls, dies, Ann cries, someone says "Twas beauty that killed the beast", THE FUCKING END!!!
"I'm Rick James, bitch! King Kong ain't got nothin' on me" by Big Bad Clone	Feb 25th, 2004 02:34:34 PM
Sorry for that, had to be done. Re: Sean Astin Hey, I wasn't a big fan of Samwise (or Rudy, the Hobbit as I called him) in the fiirst two films. But, in Return of the King Samwise is the fucking man. Fighting Orcs, giant spiders, carrying Frodo, getting the girl, and instantly giving having two kids.That motherfucker worked his ass off because he had to live. He wasn't on a suicide mission like Frodo. He wasn't a great warrior. He had no death defying magic. He was fat. That's it and look what he accomplished. Sam is the fucking man (hobbit).
It's funny that people are whining that Kong is an odd choice to by minderbinder	Feb 25th, 2004 06:02:20 PM
They already put together preproduction stuff for this years ago, why the hell not go ahead and do it?
Yet another remake of King Kong. by Darksider	Feb 26th, 2004 01:13:51 AM
Come on Pete. Give us THE HOBBIT!
Legolas scales King Kong... by Skyway Moaters	Feb 26th, 2004 02:42:46 PM
Oh erm, never mind, just something I read on an "exile TB". *** What is inherently wrong with a King Kong remake? The 70ies Di Laurentis offering sunk to the level of camp at times. A modern 'period take' on this classic might be just what the doctor ordered. It doesn't have to follow in the vapid footsteps of Disney's "Mighty Joe Young" fiasco. Bad movie but did you check out the 'ape effects'? WETA should NAIL this if they get a decent script to work with.
Oh oh, I'm running out of room on my LotR shelf. by Miami Mofo	Feb 26th, 2004 02:55:14 PM
Between my two copies of LotR (1965 softcovers and Nazgul-from-the-movie hardcover), the audiobooks version of LotR, the movie tie-in books (Jude Fisher's Visual Companions, Brian Sibley's books, and the Weapons and Warfare book), three Howard Shore cd's, three theatrical DVD's (LotR:FotR, LotR:TTT and Bakshi's), the two EE's and the Argonath dvd/bookends, I'm almost out of room on that shelf! The only space left is reserved for the RotK theatrical and EE DVDs. And you say that NINE Howard Shore cd's are coming? What is a collector to do?
Why, keep collecting Miami! by morGoth	Feb 26th, 2004 05:16:04 PM
Hell yeah! I'll buy 'em all baby! I also intend to add some of PJ's other master works...especially 'Heavenly Creatures.' "I think that's fayntayistic!" Of course, I MUST own Howards NINE disk collection too. ** I'm with you Moaters, I think WETA will do a great job on Kong but I do share your concern about a decent script. Also, anybody who thinks naomi Watts is a dog should be worthy of Elanor3's contempt! Still, I heard PJ say on an interview, when asked where he'd like to appear in Kong, that he'd like to be the rear gunner in one of the Sopwith Camels that shoots poor, poor King offa the Empire State Building. Hey PJ, I don't think that would be a very accurate portrayal since you may not fit inside that puny cockpit. Hmm...i guess since he actually owns one, he oughtta know, eh?
Kong Kong his name is Kong! KONG! by neobido999	Feb 26th, 2004 08:20:21 PM
Hope they do a special edition where greedo shots greedo down.
As a a genuine modern day Large Ape by neobido999	Feb 26th, 2004 08:28:25 PM
I object to the way kong will be represented. this looks like typical hollywood generalising - all huge apes climb towers and cause pandymoan-ium. I for one do not indulge in any climbing unless its to grab a particularly suculent banana. Yours K.Kong - no that's too obvious; King K.
I shall buy the Howard Shore nine-disc set too by elanor	Feb 27th, 2004 02:07:59 AM
And Miami I think now is a good time to plan to build more shelves. As long as you're re-doing the bathroom, why not add some shelves in there or just add shelves in the adjoining bedroom? You could make them out of leftover materials. We wants them, yess yess we does.***p.s. to the newbies: I am not the poster who sometimes hijacks my handle (or a similar variant) and stretches out the talkback or wreaks general havoc with the site. I am sorry that person does that. It annoys me as much as you, but it's not me doing it.
halloo! by djinnj	Feb 27th, 2004 05:18:44 AM
I'm supposed to be working, which is why I'm here instead of course! Miami, build shelves. That's the only solution as elanor has already mentioned. And yes, I'm drooling over just the thought of that set as well. Too bad it won't be out in time for me to try and get it autographed in July. I'm already wondering what to get my (hopefully) first ever LotR related autograph on (so much for not seeking autographs). Book or CD or DVD? I just don't know!
Kong by AliceInWonderlnd	Feb 27th, 2004 08:58:19 AM
I dunno. I've never seen the original, only the remake. I should imagine that's also true for vast swathes of the non-Geek populace (and those people are out there, in droves), and they buy most of the movie tickets. However, the story of King Kong is pretty much known by everyone, so the problem is putting a fresh take on it. But, you know, it's a giant ape, which is pretty cool.
What the hell are you people doing up here? by mortsleam	Feb 27th, 2004 10:39:03 AM
Actually, morGy sent me a nice, level-headed post that encouraged me to go back to the Tailend, whereupon I read Pallando
Let's just examine "period piece" for a moment... by Skyway Moaters	Feb 27th, 2004 11:21:10 AM
PJ has spoken of a real Sopwith Camel. While the original KK was released in 1933 the Camel was used to fight end of WWI, first appearing in 1917. So, you set it in the early 20ies, and consummately portray the "Roaring Decade" with its fashion, art, sex,
The Original by daughter of time	Feb 27th, 2004 11:27:53 AM
Alice, you should definitely see the original "King Kong." The B&W photography and old stop-motion animation give Kong a dreamlike, almost hallucinogenic quality that was utterly lost in the tawdry full-glare-of-daylight remake. PJ is right to keep it a period piece; I'm just not sure what he thinks he can out-do, since it's not about special effects, but a kind of dreamlike horror/pathos.
We're saying the same thing DoT... by Skyway Moaters	Feb 27th, 2004 12:52:39 PM
... The "FX" should be as invisible as possible. The key to the thing is the characterization of Kong. The performance BEHIND the effect. Gollum ring any bells? King Kong is, in its very simplest story line analysis, a love story: Ape meets girl. Ape likes girl, A-LOT. Girl is scared shitless by ape, but sees some intelligence, or gentleness, underneath his gruff exterior and testosterone driven posturing. Girl is "rescued" from ape. Ape made prisoner. Ape pines for girl. Ape pissed off. Ape breaks a bunch of puny man shit and escapes. Girl has stars in her eyes because she disapproved of the conditions of his captivity. Ape now girl's romantic hero. And lest we "spoil" the ending: you all know the story from there: "Twas Beauty [not the airplanes] Killed the Beast"... ah yes, a great final line in cinematic history.
Skyway, from a cursory examination of the 1996 draft... by mortsleam	Feb 27th, 2004 01:33:13 PM
The Sopwith Camels are used in a Great War flashback. The rest of the movie takes place in 1933.
That's cool too Mort, by Skyway Moaters	Feb 27th, 2004 02:25:57 PM
The original was set in 33 yes? Almost as "cool" as the 20ies. I seem to remember reading something about this at IMDB a while ago.
Aside from the love story... by daughter of time	Feb 27th, 2004 06:10:32 PM
...one of the most memorable bits in the original was where Kong is casually shaking the men off the giant log into the ravine, with no malice, but just like a gorilla playing with termites on a stick. One of the things that made him so scary was his childlike combination of curiosity and indifference (other than to Fay Wray); you never knew if he'd play nicely or rip the head off the doll. I also remember "Kong" as the first movie I was allowed to stay up and watch on television, past my bedtime - an older cousin was babysitting - which no doubt added to the excitement, but it still holds up.
DoT, apparently Harry thinks the same as you. by Miami Mofo	Feb 27th, 2004 06:42:19 PM
Why else would he have the exact scene you just described wallpapered as the border to all the talkback pages. ***Why is it, whenever I hear the words, Sopwith Camel, all I can think about are Snoopy and The Red Baron? "Curse you, Red Baron!" cries Snoopy shaking his fist as his bi-plane spirals towards the ground.
Pittsburgh anyone? by djinnj	Feb 27th, 2004 10:14:39 PM
Yes, I know I already have tix for 7/17 in Seattle, but I just discovered over at TORn that Maestro Shore will be in Pittsburgh on 7/30 & 31. Moot anyone? Tix go on sale on 3/1 It's a 6 hour drive for me....
djinnj, re: Pittsburg, I'm thinking about it by elanor	Feb 28th, 2004 01:13:34 PM
although I guess I am also holding out hope that he will come even closer to NYC. But yeah, count me in as initially interested for a weekend jaunt.
"25, 35, 40 or more... by morGoth	Feb 28th, 2004 02:05:01 PM
...the Bloody Red Baron was rollin' up a score! Eighty men died tryin' to end that streak, of the Bloody Red Baron, of Germany! Snoopy fired once and he, fired twice, the Bloody Red Baron went spinnin' outta sight!" Heh, and they say I'm SENILE! Dam you Miami, now I've got that dopey song stuck in me head. I WILL pay you back someday, o yes! ** Um, I remember talking to my Grandma Duncan about King Kong as she saw it when it was originally running in theatres. All she talked about was how terrified she was of that big gorilla and how REAL he looked. Despite the fact that she was a basically uneducated (she was fairly well read, however, despite only finishing seventh grade) farming housewife, she took the movie for what it was...a horror movie and nothing more. So, for her and loads of other folks, it most certainly was about the special effects. To coin a word from the dialogue, she said the story itself was rather "sappy" and the only reason that she went to see it was for how Kong was portrayed. Scared her so bad she almost quit smoking! Now, coming from a lass who suffered a beating by getting caught smoking behind the tobacco barn (She was whupped for trying to HIDE the fact that she'd been smoking since age 7! We're talking tobacco country here so she had nothing to be ashamed of, according to Great Grandaddy Bennet!), that's saying a lot! I trust PJ will have a completely cool and well roundedpackage for us but, in the end, it's still going to be a horror story and the focus is going to be on how well ol' KK is rendered, like it or not.
Sorry 'bout that, morGy!!!!!!!!! by Miami Mofo	Feb 29th, 2004 10:13:40 AM
It was NEVER my intention to evoke memories of that song. Whenever I think of Snoopy and The Red Baron, it's straight from the TV show, 'It's The Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown'. That Halloween show and 'Merry Christmas, Charlie Brown' are absolut classics. ***Well, the big day has finally arrived. Rene Rodriguez, The Miami Herald movie critic predicts that LotR:RotK will win six of the eleven awards it is nominated for: Visual Effects; Sound Mixing; Makeup; Art Direction; Directing; Picture. In the other five categories he picks: Costume Design - The Last Samurai; Film Editing - City Of God; Score - Finding Nemo; Song - You Will Be My Ain True Love from Cold Mountain; Adapted Screenplay - American Splendor. I am hoping for the Dwarf-lord Seventh - for Best Song. I am also seriously rooting for Shore's score, but because he won for LotR:FotR, I just don't think that the Academy will give him another.
SWEEP! SWEEP! by Runelord	Mar 1st, 2004 02:38:40 AM
My God, did they lose a single one?!
Could I possibly be LAST on this talkback? by Elaine	Mar 4th, 2004 05:55:40 AM
Yes, I suppose so. I'll enjoy it while it LASTS.
Elaine, maybe you should stick to the Rotterdam reports. by mortsleam	Mar 4th, 2004 10:44:18 AM
'Cause this "last" thing just doesn't seem to be working out. Ouch. Sorry, that was a little mean. I apologize, really. It's the LAST time I'll behave like that, I swear.
I'll keep you to that, Mort by Elaine	Mar 4th, 2004 01:01:14 PM
In the meantime, here's to another LAST.
"The toe-curling preamble is over; the phoney laughter, banal qu by Sabster	Mar 4th, 2004 01:12:27 PM
I really don
We're over on 17084, Sabster by Elaine	Mar 4th, 2004 02:44:09 PM
And now, can I finally claim this LAST? Please...?
Last by mortsleam	Jun 12th, 2006 04:24:31 PM
'Cause it's all I have left.
Something's wacky in AICN land by mortsleam	Oct 6th, 2006 09:50:00 PM
Pretty sure I reclaimed Last here before.

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