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Studio Plant asks, Why another PETER PAN movie'

What's the name of that techno song they play during the trailer by PacinoHatersGoHo	Oct 13th, 2003 06:15:53 AM
That's about as far as my interest goes for this film.
Sorry, trying to be clever. Failed. by Rain_Dog	Oct 13th, 2003 06:18:24 AM
Not all that interested in this movie. Er, didn't really like Muriel's Wedding all that much either. Although Jason Isaacs is pretty cool, and should probably play Ras Al Ghul if'n they can't get Jeremy Irons.
Why, you ask? by Silvio Dante	Oct 13th, 2003 06:21:15 AM
To capitalize on what Harry Potter and LOTR started. Next stop: His Dark Materials. Abarat. Artemis Fowl etc ad infinitum or at least til the new fad comes along. Then again, why not. It's better than teen comedies and chick-flicks.
PacinoHaterGoHo by Silvio Dante	Oct 13th, 2003 06:24:36 AM
I don't know if we are talking about the same thing but the one I saw couple months ago had Coldplay's "Clocks" in it - not the whole song, but the piano intro.
music by fletchwins	Oct 13th, 2003 06:50:53 AM
the first half has coldplays clocks as the music. dont recognize the rest.
worrying by lampoon	Oct 13th, 2003 06:52:51 AM
anyone who is so facinated by a magical tale where young boys never grow old should be arrested.
Haven't heard the piece of music in question, by Rain_Dog	Oct 13th, 2003 07:02:39 AM
but if it starts off with the piano intro to "Clocks" it might be Royksopp's 12" remix of said Colplay number.
With Smuckers Grape, of course..... by ChickenGeorgeVII	Oct 13th, 2003 07:11:19 AM
I always liked my Pan creamy style....we are talking about penut butter, right?.....(I also say this with all due respect to the fine fine folks over at the Knotts Berry Farm, since I do not wany any trouble from the Knotts Berry Mafia, run, of course, by Don Knotts)......And thus, I have spoken! - - - George, The 7th Chicken!!!!
I am a first poster. by ZeedarTeretz	Oct 13th, 2003 07:28:28 AM
Just not today.
Moriarty's script review gave me hope but after watching the tra by godoffireinhell	Oct 13th, 2003 07:30:22 AM
It should have been darker ... Hook looks ridiculous and not a bit menacing. One annoying kid who looks like a midget Harry Potter ... Sure it will make 100+ million at the BO but it won't be the definitive version. Let's wait another 20 years ...
"blew it" by godoffireinhell	Oct 13th, 2003 07:33:27 AM
of course
I really really really wanted this to be a great film. by virkku	Oct 13th, 2003 07:35:05 AM
I thought the potential was there. A definitive version of Peter Pan. I hope that this guy is absolutely wrong about everything, but I'm starting to lose my faith... Damn.
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Peter Potter and Harry Pan by MyWord	Oct 13th, 2003 07:49:16 AM
Hi. I recently caught Spy Kids 3D here in Singapore about a month back. Before the movie they played the trailer for this new version of Peter Pan. I wasn't one bit excited about it and even the kids remarked about how the logo, etc resembled Harry Potter in alot of ways. I tried telling myself that maybe it was a just a poorly cut trailer but other than the sets every cast member didn't fit their respective roles. Captain Hook looked especially simple and didn't come across one-bit as menacing. I know the people at AICN seem to be backing this project but unlike other times where they've heavily bombarded us with positive comments about a movie (e.g. Kill Bill) this doesn't even seem to merit any positive comments. Even the beautiful sets look poorly lit and FAKE! Doubt this will make much at the B.O.
The music is... by Orange Brat	Oct 13th, 2003 08:22:04 AM
Coldplay's "Clocks" and if you think that is techno music then you need to go sit in the corner when you go back to the school.
The trailer for this was pretty awful by godric	Oct 13th, 2003 08:27:19 AM
I mean, I like the story of Peter Pan. But the acting and tone of the scene the trailer highlights, where Peter and Wendy stand in her window and he tries to seduce her into flying with him, was just plain terrible, trying to turn it into a junior high romance or something. Blech.
Jason Isaacs by FloydGandoli	Oct 13th, 2003 08:47:43 AM
I'm looking forward to this if for nothing else than to see the great Jason Isaacs as Hook.
k.d. lang by JAGUART	Oct 13th, 2003 08:49:50 AM
would have made a great Peter Pan
The trailer music in full is ... by taxman2001	Oct 13th, 2003 09:07:16 AM
"Battle Cry" by X-Ray Dog" followed by "Clocks" by Coldplay, then some original trailer music by Dan Nielsen and finishing with music from 2002's "The Time Machine" by Klaus Badelt. And for all your trailer music queries may I suggest that you click over to http://www.soundtrack.net/. I thank you ...
If you read the original book... by nottoo	Oct 13th, 2003 09:33:31 AM
this reviewer actually gave a synopsis of the original story. Wendy IS the central character with Hook/Mr. Darling and Hook is a very soulful, haunted guy who DOES kill his own crew from time to time. If the tone seemed moody and not one action sequence after another then good - the book is far more moving and deeper than Disney, et al. From the little that has emerged from this very closed production, PJ Hogan fought very hard to keep artistic truth to the original story. I still have great hopes for this film - check out the technical and artistic crew. And Isaacs as Hook/Darling promises to be excellent, he usually is. One review from a fan-boy who doesn't really get the tale to begin with isn't going to put this fan-girl off one bit. I do think folks should do themselves a good favor and read the book - its magical, especially for adults.
what another repeat? by name-name-name	Oct 13th, 2003 09:38:06 AM
i'm tired of being told to see the same thing over and over again... like some sort of wierd ritualistic mass mind control exercise... watch this, now watch it again, and again... i'm going to sleep
Actually another Peter Pan movie was neccessary by Terry_1978	Oct 13th, 2003 10:12:18 AM
When you think about it no one has really done an actual conversion of the book in live action form since 1924...Hook was more of Spielberg's continuation. This is really the first live action one to probably do it justice, I hope.
Thanks for all "Clocks" responses by PacinoHatersGoHo	Oct 13th, 2003 10:22:09 AM
I still don't care much about this film, but this is maybe the 3rd time in the past year that I've posted more than once in a talkback. Truly I am a member of the community!
Isn't Tinkerbell played by that naked, French chick from Swimmin by Osmosis Jones	Oct 13th, 2003 10:29:03 AM
That ought to keep the dads in the audience happy. ;o) Seriously, the trailer for this film was surprisingly good.
another version by VibroCount	Oct 13th, 2003 11:01:42 AM
Don't forget the mid-90's stage version (like the Mary Martin 1950's one caught on TV) with Cathy Rigby as PP... A&E has it on DVD. -- -- Kids like Peter Pan, but, as good as it is, getting a kid to watch the 1924 version is like getting them to sit through a silent Buster Keaton feature -- they ought to, but won't without some nasty feedback from them before & during...
PLANT! by AICN CatchPhrase	Oct 13th, 2003 11:49:55 AM
this reviewer is obviously a plant!
Wendy, Michael, John...Tinkerbell, c'mon!! by McLuvin	Oct 13th, 2003 12:26:22 PM
i watched the mary martin version 100 times as a kid. i think this'll be good. QUESTION:will the crocodile be CGI? that'd be sweet
Not the target audience by LewMoxon	Oct 13th, 2003 01:14:35 PM
As hard as this is to believe, the majority of talkbalkers are not the center of the universe. Every movie (as well as TV program, book, comic, and band) are not designed to appeal to your demographic. Peter Pan is aimed at younger viewers. The Disney cartoon was aimed at young kids, this one looks like it's aimed at 10-15 year olds. If you're not in that demographic, your opinion doesn't count here. That's not to say that this movie won't be enjoyable to anyone outside that group, but if it is, that's just a bonus. I'm in my mid-30's, but when I took my nephew to see Harry Potter, I knew it was just to humor him. As it turned out, I enjoyed the film enough to read the books soon after seeing the movie. It happens. Oh, and to those of you are making comments along the lines of this being a pedophile's wet dream, get help.
I have never met anyone named Pan. by Fred	Oct 13th, 2003 01:19:12 PM
And I'd pay hard cash money to watch Gigi Edgely play the role.
A far more positive review at IMDb. by nottoo	Oct 13th, 2003 01:30:57 PM
Someone who was apparently at the same screening as "Studio Plant" just posted a brief yet very positive review on the IMDb PP board. While the reviewer didn't take to Ludivine Sagnier (sorry Harry), he/she thinks Jason Isaacs is "spectular." Other brief pull quotes include: "it was done very well...thosewaiting for it will enjoy it" and "it was a cool flick, but it would be 10x's better of the CGI had already been done." Now that makes sense. And a note to Studio Plant - I don't believe you have kids if you were surprised that the children in the audience were "restless." Kids are generally full of activity - even when at the movies. For example, I took my kids to see Harry Potter and they were restless. Took them to see Finding Nemo and they were all over the place, uh, restless. Also took them to see Pirates of the Car., and they were restless, yet again. In fact, they loved all three of these films while being restless -just like kids. Imagine that? Like Harry, I'm really hoping this film delivers a definitive faithful adaptation of Barrie's work. Sounds like Hogan has the mood right and the story line remaining true. The croc always does have a way of showing up at the right time and Hook never does get the better of that annoying Peter Pan
Too bad but by Maiden	Oct 13th, 2003 01:57:03 PM
I may see this anyway. There's a new generation out there who need their own version of PP.
AICN loosing credibility? by veins	Oct 13th, 2003 03:00:29 PM
I question the credibility of "Studio Plant". Curious that there isn't more information regarding this so-called test screening. Nothing from reliable news sources. Yes, a brief blurb at IMDB, but that is vague as well, and probably by the same guy. Did it really even take place? If so, is "Studio Plant" a reliable source of information? Did he really attend the test screening? Too many holes. Nothing in the review leads me to believe that Plant saw this movie. Anyone of us could write a review like this one (and probably a much better one) without seeing the movie. How about adding a REAL spoiler to add credibility. Something in the movie that isn't in the book, and that we know nothing about? Probably can't.
Basil Rathbone as Hook, Guy Kibbee as Smee!!! by RenoNevada2000	Oct 13th, 2003 03:02:59 PM
Harry, you need to steal Moriarty's old time machine go back to 1935 and somehow get yourself put in charge of casting at MGM. Those were some brilliant choices!
cant wait by PolyesterRage	Oct 13th, 2003 03:29:48 PM
I can't wait to see this movie. I love the book, and it looks like the movie is going to do it justice. btw, the disney version of Peter Pan is barely like the book (its much more...fluttery and less moody, and it cuts out a lot), and Hook is just pretty much a continuation. so really there havent been a whole lot of movies with the actual story of Peter Pan.
Get on the Peter Pan bus kids -- coz we're gonna take a trip bac by Bregalad_	Oct 13th, 2003 04:10:58 PM
..... maybe innocence is something too easily forgotten in our cyncial post-modern view of the world, but still, that is what Peter Pan is all about. Please let that sink in for just a moment. "Peter Pan" in any form: stage, screen, book, is all about the little voice inside you that doesn't want to grow old. We are all afraid of growing old. That kind of story has incredibly sad shades of meaning the further you go into it. You don't want to give up your innocence, not completely? Do you? As you grow up in a harsh world, you have to make LOTS OF COMPROMISES. Stephen King adroitly refers to this growing older process in his new version of "The Gunslinger" -- he refers to the blind energy of youth that gradually gets its ass kicked by growing up. Listen, Peter Pan is not supposed to be this uber-happy adventure tale of fun & frolic. No. The story's underpinnings are remarkably sad when you realize that Peter never wants to make those compromises towards adulthood. He is constantly threatened by Hook/Mr. Darling; but in a very different way than is immediately apparent. Pan is not threatened by the sword, he is truly threatened by the advance of time. So if this film takes a more sombre look at the story, then so be it. That emotional color SHOULD be there, in every frame. Wendy is the cipher through which we understand Peter's determination to stop the hands of time, to stop the aging of his heart. I've seen this trailer several times and it looks ABSOLUTELY perfect on that emotional level. The choice of Coldplay's "Clocks" is appropos, putting the emphasis on time, and how we don't want to feel helpless that time can never slow down for us, that childhood happiness must be so fleeting. The symbolism of time being a threat is even there with the crocodile swallowing the alarm clock, and therefore Hook is constantly reminded that his final doom is coming for him. Seems to me these filmmakers are on the right track. From conversations I've had with the physical effects crew (who are my good friends) this film is coming together wonderfully and should be a home run. Can't wait to see for myself. Bregalad out.
well... by Bourne GreyElf	Oct 13th, 2003 04:11:44 PM
...perhaps I'm just not seeing the appeal because I haven't read the books, but this doesn't look all that great. I'll still see it however to promote fantasy-esq films, which is the only reason I go see Harry Potter. I just want more fantasy movies Like LOTR to be released.
Ludivine Sagnier by Bourne GreyElf	Oct 13th, 2003 04:16:35 PM
well, shes not that cute guys. eh well, I'd date her of course, and tap it, but thats about it.
For a moment, I thought this movie was called Peter Pan Over At by Fizzy Cherry	Oct 13th, 2003 04:49:56 PM
...with Jennifer Lopez as his low down dirty ho Wendy, this movie sees Peter P dealing his sister Tinkerbell's 'fairydust' all over town, with Police Captain Hook hot on his ass. With Ray Liotta as Captain Hook. Probably a cameo for Hulk Hogan somewhere in the mix, I'd imagine.
oscar is HOOKED on peter pan! by drudgejr	Oct 13th, 2003 04:57:07 PM
peter CAN win an oscar! g g g!
LOVE YA PLANT! by emeraldluxury	Oct 13th, 2003 05:04:35 PM
Hi Studio Plant, I just wanted to say that I loved your name! Makes me laugh. But in the famous words of dmann...you're not a plant, you're an ANIMAL! (I think dmann said mammal...but that is not as fun.) Thanks for your review. emeraldluxury
To Bregalad : kudos by nottoo	Oct 13th, 2003 05:59:46 PM
Very well stated. As for Studio Plant, in his ignorance of the original tale, the reviewer has unwittingly translated the true wonder that will be this film - just like the haunting, bittersweet masterpiece by Barrie. This will not be merely a kiddie action-candy flick. At least I hope not!
Enjoyed your post, Bregalad by daughter of time	Oct 13th, 2003 06:03:59 PM
As a child I was enraptured by the Disney version, but as I grew older (and read the book) I've always felt the lack of a film that would really capture the book's melancholy.... At the root of Peter's desire not to grow old is rejection by his mother (she closed the nursery door, and replaced him with a new baby, so that he was never able to return home the way the Darling children do). His response is to this is purely defensive. Add to this a Hook who is horribly afraid of "bad form," and who is convinced at every turn that Peter is showing more of it than he is. And the darkness that Peter could (because of his determined youthfulness) fail to save Wendy at any moment because of pure forgetfulness and self-centeredness.... People who imperfectly remember the story think it's about the joys of childhood, but it's as much about the tragedy of NOT growing old. Like the best of so-called children's classics, this is a book that has many levels, most of which can only be understood by grown-ups. It is filled with darkness and irony. And I've been thrilled by the trailers for the film, because of that "dark" look and sense that this is not just a cheerful romp through a fantasy world. Also, it's about time Peter was played by a "real boy." (Mary Martin really creeped me out as a child - she was so obviously not just a female, but someone the age of my mother!) Supposedly, Peter has arrested his development just one day short of puberty, which adds to the legitimate sexual tension with Wendy, who is also on the edge (and, in the book, much more aware of it than he is). And I see nothing perverted about this. It is not kiddie-porn to acknowledge that children of this age can be strongly attracted to each other.
Harry Peter by NicholasWolfwood	Oct 13th, 2003 07:36:56 PM
don't be touching it!
Jack from Will and Grace is Peter Pan by super Cucaracha	Oct 13th, 2003 07:39:14 PM
and Jack Black is Tinkerbell on the upcoming gay porn My Peter For Your Bells.
After the awful Spieberg version,a Peter Pan story that isn't Am by Noell	Oct 13th, 2003 07:59:44 PM
The preview of the new Peter Pan looks real good. At last a real boy playing Peter Pan and it actually sticks to the original story without it being Americanised as the movie "Hook" was. You don't change stories just for the sake of it. Despite what Whining Whoopi Goldberg said in her "no black Frodo" whine at the Oscars two years ago,you don't Americanise classic stories because it doesn't work.Whoopi didn't complain about no Asians being in "The Color Purple"(one rule for Whoopi and another for everyone else). We have already had an American "Robin Hood" and an American "Hook" so any movie that sticks to the otiginal story is OK by me.
Lost Boys Redux by dr.cornelius	Oct 13th, 2003 07:59:47 PM
Where Spielberg botched Hook was by making the Lost Boys cuddly. These kids are savages living on a dangerous island with pirates and, ahem, Indians. Please, P.J. Hogan, no orphans who show up just long enough to shoot hoops and crank off a couple nifty skateboard tricks before vanishing, leaving us with future ex-child actors. Neverland should be a scary, adventurous place--and I don't mean Jacko's backyard. Oh yeah, and Peter should have given his sword to the little kid who first recognized the child in him.
The next upcoming Harry Potter Porno will be entitled "Harry Pot by Rusty_Ball_Sac	Oct 13th, 2003 08:09:28 PM
And creepythinman all of your questions will be answered once this movie is released.
Who actually cares if the Peter Pan franchise was americanized? by Rusty_Ball_Sac	Oct 13th, 2003 08:30:32 PM
Why do you grown adults such as Noell and Dr.cornelious care about the americanizatiion of a fairytale for children? Do you have nothing better to do with your life, so you discuss Peter Pan's americanization? And how the hell is Whoppie Goldberg even relevant to this talkback? Do yourselves a favour, gain some maturity stop watching movies intended for children such as Pokemon and Peter Pan and go meet a nice girl, and if your "playing for the wrong team" then go meet a nice goat sheep or guy.
I don't buy the argument that "this movie was meant for kids, no by JohnnyTremaine	Oct 13th, 2003 08:39:16 PM
Ahem. May I point out some great movies of the past: anything by Pixar, most Disney animated films up to the 1960s, Harry and the Chocolate Factory, Mary Poppins, etc, etc, movies which most adults have enjoyed for some time. If a movie aimed at kids bores adults to tears, guess what, it will also bore the kids. Great entertainment is great entertainment.
Yes all that is fucking hilarious. But you forgot one key elemen by Rusty_Ball_Sac	Oct 13th, 2003 08:49:38 PM

And two more thing I forgot. Midgets, and "CHICKS WITH DICKS"!!! by Rusty_Ball_Sac	Oct 13th, 2003 08:50:56 PM

I guess every generation's entitled to it's own version of PETER by FrankDrebin	Oct 13th, 2003 08:54:56 PM
It might help restore George Lucas's rep a bit (even though he wasn't that involved in the MI games).
Go here for trailer music info: http://www.soundtrack.net/traile by FrankDrebin	Oct 13th, 2003 08:56:09 PM

And here for TV commercial music info: http://www.songtitle.info by FrankDrebin	Oct 13th, 2003 08:58:41 PM

Fuck your an idiot Creepy. by Conan_the_Humble	Oct 14th, 2003 12:04:21 AM
That is all. Oh, do we really need another Peter Pan movie? Cheers.
I spent a bit of time on the set of this... :) by TheGinger Twit	Oct 14th, 2003 07:43:57 AM
And then I asked why are they making another Peter Pan movie? I think I should have been quiet... but damnit, I'm in this little industry down here and want to know why original projects (like my own) get turned down in favour of yet another remake?!
Isn't there another Peter Pan flick in the pipeline? by jimmythesaint	Oct 14th, 2003 08:48:31 AM
It's called NEVERLAND and it stars Johnny Depp as JM Barrie. Apparently.
I can't really argue with you there Creepy, by Conan_the_Humble	Oct 14th, 2003 10:29:30 AM
You ARE the expert on dick, FACT!!! (Except for the cocksucker part and being as the french say, "sans penis") And you reckon I've got no sense of humour? Perhaps, but you're STILL a fuckin idiot. Oh and I don't think another Peter Pan movie is either necessary or a good idea. Cheers.
Harry Potter and Peter Pan are to team up with Hannibal Lecter f by Drath	Oct 14th, 2003 11:46:05 AM
Also on the team are Lestat DeLioncourt the Vampire, Dirk Pitt, and Mary Poppins, all teaming up to fight an imposter pretending to be Tony Blair! You think I'm joking.
You missed the point, Tremaine by LewMoxon	Oct 14th, 2003 11:46:27 AM
All the movies you mentioned ARE great entertainment, suitable for both adults and kids. But, that doesn't mean that there aren't movies that are great for kids, but crap for adults. My 8 year old nephew loves the power rangers' movies. He lives for the TMNT. Now, explain to me that that's great entertainment. I've sat through a lot of shit to make kids (nephews, niece, godsons) happy that were a complete waste of my time.
It's not a remake... by daughter of time	Oct 14th, 2003 12:14:09 PM
... when you take a classic novel and present it in a way that's never been tried before - live action, with a real boy (not a woman or a cartoon) in the title role, and with the intent to more fully capture the book's darker themes. I can't see that any previous version of "Peter Pan" (I exclude the travesty "Hook" from consideration) has seriously attempted to translate the book, so it's as legitimtely creative as any other film project. As far as crowding out original projects (defined as those not adapted from books or plays?), I'm more concerned about endless sequels.
I can't take this anymore! I'm so sick of you fuckers!! What the by TheGinger Twit	Oct 15th, 2003 01:00:45 AM

Why dont you all... by KittenCrazy	Dec 29th, 2003 12:46:38 AM
Stop ragging on the film. I just saw it last night, and it's really fantastic. And dont say all that crap about "kids wont like it." It's crap. I should know. I'm 14. The actors in it are great, the music is great, and Jeremy Sumpter (Peter) is super hot. So shut up, and just think about what you're saying. Stop being such pig heads and get over yourselves alright? I'd like to see some of you direct or act in a film. Not gonna happen, right? So dont rag on people who at least have the guts to do it themselves.

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