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Brosnan out... Owen in' The 6th man for 007' Tarantino & Brosnan' Wildness...

Didn't he star in those BMW clips too? by NicholasWolfwood	Oct 7th, 2003 03:40:40 AM
He'd be a cool Bond.
owen is the one by Hansen	Oct 7th, 2003 03:41:02 AM
He is the perfect actor for Bond right now, much better Hugh "Wolverine" Jackman. And actually Owen would be perfect in a remake of Casino Royale if it was made as described in the book : in a cosy French city in the early 1950's. He has this kind of "retro" look that would be great for the movie.
I like those BMW movies that Clive Owen has been doing by LoStSouLZ	Oct 7th, 2003 03:42:41 AM
He'd be an obvious choice for bond. Let Tarantino or someone else direct bond who can steer the tired series in a new direction.
Are you trying to say something here Harry? by IndustryKiller	Oct 7th, 2003 03:43:32 AM
If your just speculating thats lame to be so cryptic but if you know something then for the love of all that is Holy spit it out.
Harry should by DonnieDorko	Oct 7th, 2003 03:46:20 AM
be the next Bond. That would be great.
Harry IS Bond by AngryNortherner	Oct 7th, 2003 03:57:05 AM
Imagine it now... 'Good evening, Mish Moneypenny.' 'Fuck off, you fat fuck.'
Not Very Likely by Daniel Strange	Oct 7th, 2003 03:59:54 AM
1. Pierce Brosnan has already signed to do one more Bond movie. 2. The rights to "Casino Royale" are now owned by EON, the people who make the James Bond movies. 3. The only reason this rumor is going around is because Clive Owen has a new movie coming out and they're trying to drum up publicity.
fucking Bond... fucking james fucking bond mother fucker. I got by TheGinger Twit	Oct 7th, 2003 04:16:10 AM

i know bond is fantasy, but... by gobofraggleuk	Oct 7th, 2003 04:31:59 AM
...wouldn't it be cool if Bond was played by an actor who actually could pass as a modern-day spy? there are plenty of excellent black british actors and actors who are of middle-eastern and asian origin, and these are the guys who are most keenly recruited by MI6 in reality for international infiltration... a posh white man in a dinner jacket is a moribund concept...
Hell yeah, bitch! by Cash Bailey	Oct 7th, 2003 04:34:28 AM
Clive Owen would RULE as Bond. I just hope they start getting a better calibre of director as well. Spottiswoode and Tamahouri are faceless hacks and Apted has no fucking idea how to shoot action.
in fact... by gobofraggleuk	Oct 7th, 2003 04:37:48 AM
I remember Brosnan saying that Colin Salmon who starred in recent Bond Movies would make an excellent Bond... "Sited by Pierce Brosnan himself as a shining candidate to portray the first black James Bond, British actor Colin Salmon has made a name for himself..." Of course the fact that he has already played another character in Bond movies disqualifies him, I suppose...
Sean Bean would have been GREAT... by EmilyQFan	Oct 7th, 2003 04:45:21 AM
if he was not already 006
Who cares? Bond hasn't been good in DECADES. by Mosquito March	Oct 7th, 2003 04:56:37 AM
Bond will never be good unless the Broccolis are removed from the equation. There's no room for change or originality with those people. With the exception of Famke Janssen's Xenia Onatopp, the Bond franchise hasn't produced anything truly exciting or fun since the very early 1970s. And, even that's a stretch. The only Bond movie I'm able to watch repeatedly is YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE, which I believe came out in '67 or '68. And the reason that's so great is not the plot - it's the music, the opening credits, the sets, the babes, and the sheer absurdity of Sean Connery going undercover as a Japanese fisherman, after becoming a full-fledged ninja with two weeks' training. There's a reason why Mike Myers mined that film more heavily than any other Bond film in the first AUSTIN POWERS - it's the only one that really nailed the FUN of James Bond.
Clive Owen would be a GREAT Bond, but I think Brosnan is doing o by Spacesheik	Oct 7th, 2003 05:39:02 AM
All I remember from DIE ANOTHER DAY is some lame sword fight, the Astom Martin shootout on ice, and that horrible CGI shot of Bond jumping off the iceberg. I liked the precredits sequence and the credits sequence and the initial idea of a rogue Bond - the first 15 minutes of the film are great, then its a standard Bond flick with a female sidekick and some lame villain who switches faces with a korean general or something, up to the AIR FORCE ONE finale. I mean it was a better film than WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH but that's not saying much. I think Brosnan has done 4 now and you always hope they improve or get grittier or more exciting but they really don't. They are not rousing enough for my tasts, they're just regular action pictures now. I mean they are way ahead of shiite like XXX but a far cry even from the epic-like Roger Moore stuff like SPY WHO LOVED ME and his grittier, fresh takes such as FOR YOUR EYES ONLY. I mean if Brosnan is going to do another film, I really hope its down to basics, Bond versus ONE villain, no sidekicks, no stolen nukes, no ecological weapon, no stolen satellite, and all the other bullshit they usually do. I mean really, why cant we have a FOR YOUR EYES ONLY type film for Brosnan? Something Bond, but still leaner and meaner, more serious, than the standard bullshit. I still remember Roger Moore kicking the jeep off the mercedes off a cliff in cold blood and could not believe this was the same Moore we'd always known. Brosnan always talks about making Bond more human, like a shoulder injury or going renegage and stuff like that but they NEVER live up to those ideals. The Bond franchise needs a Tarantino, certainly, or someone of that calibre but it also needs new producers or ones willing to stray a bit from the formula.
This happens every few Bond films since the early 70s by the G-man	Oct 7th, 2003 06:33:54 AM
When one Bond starts getting a little long in the tooth or might want too much money, the Broccolis start floating the rumors: (a) to remind the existing Bond he's not irreplaceable; (b) to see what the public thinks of potential replacement Bonds; and (c) to drum up publicity.
TARANTINO'S NEXT FILM by Sid James	Oct 7th, 2003 07:09:00 AM
Tarantino and Uma Thurman were on the Jonathan Ross chat show in the UK on Friday night. Amongst other things Tarantino did say that his next film would be 'Inglorious Bastards' and also that he had written another War Film. (For info he also said it had been far too long between making films and that he is now aiming for a film every 2 1/2 years of so) I would LOVE him to do a Bond - But I just don't see it ever happening. Shit, someone should start a petition site......
These rumors are utter BULLSHIT!!!! Brosnan is DEFINITELY making by Shanghai Nicky	Oct 7th, 2003 07:15:49 AM
Does anyone really believe that Brosnan is on the point of jumping ship from the MGM-EON Productions Bond franchise just so that he can do a "Never Say Never Again"-style rival Bond movie with Tarantino? Does anyone honestly delude themselves that EON will sell Tarantino (or anyone else) the rights to make "Casino Royale"? It's already been confirmed that Brosnan will DEFINITELY make "Bond 21" for MGM and EON. Why? Well, maybe something to do with the nearly $20 million he got for "Die Another Day". He's signed the contract. Clive Owen may be in the frame as Brosnan's eventual successor (although he'll have to get past Hugh Jackman first), but he has NOT been signed up yet. Brosnan may even make "Bond 22", too. These British tabloid rumors are, as ever, BS.
I agree with every1! Except... by harryhazzit	Oct 7th, 2003 07:16:33 AM
I'm really coming round to Owen... although I can't believe Tarantino has Brosnan in his sights. Brosnan sucks - for anyone whose not English please note, Brosnan and Sean Bean SOUND CRAP! I can't take either of them seriously when they attempt the accent!! My feeling is the series has got the same point it reached in 1979 with Moonraker - it had gone beyond all levels of sense and reason. FATTY Broccoli new his onions and took a step back - something the current producers who have inherited the series don't seem brave enough to do. Spacesheik is definately right - For Your Eyes Only was a canny move - a decent down to earth thriller with REAL stunts. The current Bond films want to take on the Matrix. WHERE does that thick eared mentality come from??? It made me sick watching the Producers' commentry on Die Another Day where they were all patting eachother on the back for doing that brave SFX breakthough tidal wave ski shot. Brave my arse! If they'd done it for real - that would have been brave!!
If there was a way of making "Casino Royale" outside the officia by Shanghai Nicky	Oct 7th, 2003 07:30:46 AM
No one could do it while EON Productions didn't own the rights, and they'll even less be able to do it now that EON Productions does own the rights. They'll be guarded tighter than the Crown Jewels. Never forget that EON Productions owns the screen rights to EVERYTHING Bond-related, right up to the novels by Raymond Benson and John Gardener.
Whew, I thought for a second there it was going to be Owen WILSO by rev_skarekroe	Oct 7th, 2003 07:58:04 AM
And Harry, can you go five minutes without mentioning Tarantino? You're almost as bad as Hercules with his Joss Whedon fetish... sk
Casino Royale with Cheese by Grr66	Oct 7th, 2003 08:31:18 AM
So will the Tarantino flick be retitled Casino Quarter Pounder for the US market? What am I talking about, this has zero chance of happening. Clive Owen as Bond eventually? Maybe -but hasn't he previously said he's not interested? Tarantino directing Bond? Nice idea - but would his vision of Bond ever fit with the producers? From what I understand Brosnan is definitely on board for Bond 21 in 2005 with possiblity of one more film in 2007.
Once Again... by ATARI	Oct 7th, 2003 08:56:22 AM
Harry is full of it. Pierce is gonna be back for Bond 21 -- that's a done deal. And you couldn't pay me to watch a QT Bond movie. BLEEEECHHH!
I wish this WAS true... by Andy Travis	Oct 7th, 2003 09:00:30 AM
On Her Majesty's Secret Service is my favorite Bond film...yeah, Lazenby's not really the right actor to play Bond, but the story is the only real important one the series has had...Blofeld is introduced, and crippled...Bond falls in love with Diana Rigg, gets married, then she gets mowed down in the very final scene! No witty "Christmas comes twice this year" bullshit here!
clive owen by satansteve	Oct 7th, 2003 09:07:27 AM
isnt he a fat, british talk show host?
What if a very popular website run by a jolly red-haired movie g by Lost Skeleton	Oct 7th, 2003 09:07:31 AM
...do his fucking research before posting a stupid ass rumor on a slow newsday. Just saying.. Revloutions...werewolves and vampire lite on November 5th!
A few things... by Mel Garga	Oct 7th, 2003 09:21:22 AM
Dalton wasn't a bad Bond. He just wasn't "pretty" enough to suit you remaining Bond fans. And I realize that Brosnan was the first choice. Wasn't he contractually obligated to Remmington Steele or something? I thought the two Dalton Bond flicks were better than anything Brosnan has done for no other reason than the fact that one of them featured Wayne Newton. (I was very disappointed when I saw how ass-crappy the effects were in Goldeneye.) Secondly, the fall of the Berlin wall and the raising of the iron curtain were the worst things that could have happened to Bond plots. Now we're stuck with shit as implausible as QT actually directing one of these aged creatures.
eat your words lil' nicky by jamawalk	Oct 7th, 2003 09:39:34 AM
there actually allready has been another version of casino royale. its one of the gold mines Mike Myers stole Austin Powers from. In 1967 a Bresler/Feldman production of the book featured David Niven(!) as Bond, and Peter Sellers as Evelyn Tremble. Oh, and some broad was in in named URSULA ANDRESS. And Woody Allen. oh, and Orson Wells. golly, no wonder this small art film full of no name actors made it past all of your radars. get a blockbuster card you film-illiterate geeks.
Jamawalk: by Otto Parts	Oct 7th, 2003 09:47:25 AM
So Casino Royale is likely to happen because of something that happened nearly FORTY years ago? Maybe Spike Lee will remake Birth of a Nation, too.
Expect more sleaze and humiliation in the next Bond film. by zinc_chameleon	Oct 7th, 2003 10:05:29 AM
Pierce Brosnan said it himself. He wanted more of his 'Archie' character from "The Tailor of Panama" in the next Bond film, and he got at least a little of it. Darn it worked for me. But there's a limit to how many times Bond can save the world. I'd definitely want to see a more retro late-40's early-50's look and feel to Bond now. The seedier the better. Tarantino is right; Bond needs to be fighting a smaller fight this time, with more intimate villains.
Owen has certainly paid his spy film dues, but, I dunno. by WarDog	Oct 7th, 2003 10:16:49 AM
I think JB needs to be a good balance of suavity and killer instinct held in check by a sound moral sense. I just don't see that in Mr. Owen, but I still miss Timothy Dalton, the best Bond next to Connery. Well, Brosnan's pretty good, too, but Dalton brought back that well-concealed but hard and razor-sharp edge.
when I saw "Owen as bond" for some reason I thought Owen Wilson by FakeTrout	Oct 7th, 2003 10:29:15 AM
which of course he would play like Dignan, just like all his olther roles.
Bond...James Bond... by Mafu	Oct 7th, 2003 10:36:03 AM
In all honesty, I think Quentin Tarantino directing a Bond film would be a HUGE waste of talent. Even Tarantino couldn't revive the ultra-slick, emotionless twaddle that is the James Bond franchise. My problem isn't so much with who directs the film as it is with the source material. The TV show Alias basically makes any James Bond movie look silly and infantile in comparison -- and that's just TV. Bond is dead. Bond died years ago. Kill the fucker and lets move on.
Best Bond EVER!!!! by Nozoki	Oct 7th, 2003 10:45:41 AM
Steve Martin in "Bullets Aren't Cheap". Sting was incredibley villianous as Goldsting and Jon Lovitz WAS "M". FACT!!!
Dalton was the best.... by MisterGrimloch	Oct 7th, 2003 10:46:43 AM
although the masses usually prefer Connery as the Bond of choice (and certainly, its hard to argue against that) i believe that Timothy Dalton was the best, and his two films were obviously the finest, since they incorporated the element of seriousness and grit that had long been lacking from the series, and in a fashion that even the Connery material had not explored. Bond was believable as a dangerous agent, unlike the deliberately lighter element to the Moore pictures (which is fine in its own right, just not my preference). its too bad that an ensuing hiatus due to legalities kept Dalton's series from continuing, and his subsequent departure from the role has always been suspect, in my opinion. frankly, audiences, being what they are (meaning, stupid.) i believe that the Dalton pictures were far ahead of their time, and all that audiences thought they wanted were the same old silly escapades of over the top action and ridiculously convoluted scripts with no drama, which is exactly what they got with Pierce Brosnan, whom i consider the single worst actor to take on the role (with the possible exception of Lazenby, although his lone film, On Her Majesty's Secret Service, blew away any of the Brosnan debacles). as i see it, the Bond series is a completely tired franchise, who's best hour is long over. of course, that won't stop them from making 100 more pictures, and constantly reworking the same moronic cliche's ad infinitum.
Re-invention of Bond by Cory849	Oct 7th, 2003 10:47:57 AM
I've had two radical ideas for Bond films and I'd love some comments on them - Positive or negative. 1) Jude Law as Bond. A go back to the beginning, young James Bond approach. I think he could really freshen up the franchise. 2) The next Bond is...wait for it...Sean Connery. Just a separate from franchise movie called "Bond" about the aging superspy in the new world of terrorism (or whatever). The new order and the old icon. Would make a billion. Thoughts? p.s. I wrote this with paragraphs which the talkback format ignores.
Owen in? The 6th man for 007? by SutureSelf	Oct 7th, 2003 10:52:15 AM
Let's see...Barry Nelson, Sean Connery, David Niven, George Lazenby, Roger Moore, Timothy Dalton, Pierce Brosnan. Wouldn't that make Clive Owen at least the 8th man for Bond? "Official" proclamations notwithstanding, the simple reality is that at least seven actors have portrayed Bond. Why do knowledgeable film historians like Harry Knowles always toe the company line regarding this matter?
The Next Bond by Caine	Oct 7th, 2003 10:54:57 AM
Since when has Hugh Jackman been in the running to play the next Bond, apart from some fanboy's wet dream? Does he even WANT the role?
Clive Owen has said he will NEVER be Bond. by riskebiz	Oct 7th, 2003 11:03:10 AM
Clive Owen has said in the press that he has no interest in ever being Bond. He thinks the whole thing is a dinosaur that should be put to sleep or something. He came off very much like he was looking down his nose at the whole Bond franchise ... that he wouldn't be caught dead doing something so low-brow. So ... screw him. As for Hugh Jackman, in the IMDB interviews, Hugh said he would love to be James Bond. He wants to do it if they ever offered it to him. So, give it to the man who wants it ... Hugh. Don't court a snob like Clive Owen who (if given the part) would probably be a one time Bond and a huge pain in the ass.
The reason OHMSS is so good ... by xrae	Oct 7th, 2003 11:04:06 AM
... is because it follows the book so closely. Do youselves a favor kiddies, and pick up the books for a good read. You do remember how to read, right? Then you'll see why most of the Bond films pretty much suck.
Tarantino.... by Gondorff	Oct 7th, 2003 11:07:52 AM
may have been drinking when he made those comments. Not that he couldn't do a kick-ass Bond movie, but if anyone saw his Tonight Show appearance last week, you know he may need to lay off the sauce.
What if... by Triple-Haitch	Oct 7th, 2003 11:15:01 AM
And WHAT IF Tarantino were to finally tackle Forty Lashes Less One, starring Charles Bronson and Fred Williamson? Not gonna happen, chumps.
Clive Owen on IMDB by blckmgk13	Oct 7th, 2003 11:29:18 AM
Publicly stated in mid-2003 he did not want to play James Bond, saying "I would not consider it to be a challenge."
opinons change by TS Thomas	Oct 7th, 2003 11:35:43 AM
When Croupier first came out in the UK it got bad reviews, it was released in the US to good reviews. Upon being re-released in the UK it got good reviews. Go figure. Saw it, didn't like it, what IS the big deal with the film?
Bond Films Need Better Writers by ChicagoRonin	Oct 7th, 2003 11:46:31 AM
As much as I love Clive Owen and would like to see him as Bond, the film series is stuck in a creative dead-end. I actually think Brosnan would make a great Bond if he had a great Bond script. I thought his performances in TAILOR OF PANAMA and THE THOMAS CROWN AFFAIR were infinitely suaver, cooler, and more colored than anything in the current crop of EON productions. Brocoli's kids just need to release the reigns on the writers and directors, and perhaps its high time they jettisoned all the "obligatory" Bond elements which have become cliched (visit to Q's lab, tete-a-tete with Moneypenny, criminal mastermind, etc.). The Bond films have exactly the same problem as the Star Trek series, they've become prisoners to their own legend and what made them sucessful in the past, but are now irrelevant to the present. What I don't understand is that arguably the best Brosnan Bond film (relatively speaking) is probably GOLDENEYE - which actually got a lot of mileage in the early part of the film by contrasting the traditional "sexist misogynist dinosaur" Bond against a changed, post-Cold War world.
Owen as Bond for BOND 21? Three words: NO. FRICKIN'. WAY. by SpyGuy	Oct 7th, 2003 11:57:04 AM
As many have already mentioned, Brosnan has been signed for BOND 21 and I can't see Pierce getting kicked to the curb for Owen. I imagine this will Brosnan's last, but this rumor may be sowing seeds for BOND 22. A Tarantino Bond could be interesting, and I would love to see someone -- anyone -- remake CASINO ROYALE into a straight Bond movie, but it just ain't gonna happen unless it's in an "unofficial" capacity like NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN. CASINO ROYALE would, however, be a great way to reboot the franchise from scratch...
new bond? by smutpeddlar	Oct 7th, 2003 11:57:33 AM
whats wrong with brosnan? i think he has at least 3 more bond movies in him, let the man who revived the franchise leave a proper legacy.
Kevin Smith by SLEAZY DINOSAUR	Oct 7th, 2003 11:58:39 AM
Let's get Kevin Smith to direct the next Bond film, he can cast Ben Affleck as Bond, that would give Ben the chance to stretch with a British accent. Just kidding, but Tarantino would be a great choice to write and direct for Bond.
I agree with the fanboys who liked Timothy Dalton by Spacesheik	Oct 7th, 2003 12:07:54 PM
The Timothy Dalton pictures were huge hits internationally, although the latter made a dismal $33 million in the US, but I prefered those films to anything Brosnan has starred in. THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS was a huge hit with audiences and critics, Dalton was hailed as a saviour of the Bond franchise and the film was a Cold war thriller that had an American rogue general as a villain and culminated in Afghanistan. It was pretty good and holds up excellently today. LICENE TO KILL was underated, I love that film too, the Dalton we saw in DAYLIGHTS was gone, this guy was stern, cynical, violent, and shrewd. I loved that film, I know people hate it but I loved the violence in it (it was the first Bond rated 15 in England and pg-13 in the US). It also gave Q (Desmond Lewelin) is biggest role as Bond's ally in his vendetta against Sanchez.
The old Bond is dead by Spacesheik	Oct 7th, 2003 12:11:44 PM
I really miss John Barry, Maurice Binder's titles, the epic, multi-location feel of the 70s and 80s Bonds. I suppose it can never be the same. The producers made a mint out of DIE ANOTHER DAY (biggest Bond grosser NOT adjustable to inflation) so they need to take chances now.
Three words to save the Bond franchise: BRING BACK LAZENBY!!! by Atticus Finch	Oct 7th, 2003 12:16:13 PM
You know he was the best Bond ever!
Peter Sellers was also James Bond by zinc_chameleon	Oct 7th, 2003 12:47:08 PM
In the Goon Show epic "The Mukkineese Battle Horn (1962)." I couldn't believe it when I watched it how they could call him James Bond, but they did.
The original Casino Royale rocked! by HardcoreRocker	Oct 7th, 2003 12:54:15 PM
I'd only enjoy a remake if the theme song remained the same. Damn, what a great theme song. Also, Casino Royale was one of Mike Myers's big influences for Austin Powers, which makes me wonder...would QT take it back to the mojo era Bond? I'm getting a boner contemplating it. www.rockithardcore.com
clive owen! fuck off!! by Y282	Oct 7th, 2003 01:02:49 PM
if that's the best successor we've got to offer we're REALLY in the shit! course, it could be worse, i heard some twat put robbie williams name forward for it.
Fuck Clive Owen! DOUGRAY SCOTT FOR JAMES BOND!!! by Antiriad	Oct 7th, 2003 01:03:39 PM
besides, Owen already said he wasnt interested!
OWEN IS A VERY BAD IDEA by RogueElement	Oct 7th, 2003 01:06:01 PM
Every few years, Hollywood likes to float up a wish list of the "NEXT HOT ACTOR". 9 out of 10 times, the only reason the actors are pumped up is because their agents/managers have "tagged" them and sold them as the must have star in Hollywood films. But the true test is when that actor is served up to the audience and most of the time he fails to catch fire because the smoke was artificially created by management. Clive Owen may be a good actor but he will drag the Bond Franchise down just like Timothy Dalton did. He'll end up being a blip on the Bond Radar with all the blind lemmings who bought into the hype wondering "what happened?" The fact that he's being pushed in BMW Bond films proves that the motivation is coming from clever management behind the scenes. Bond is not a good actor, grounded in reality. Bond is suave, cool and charming. Clive Owen ain't any of these. I'm out...
Thank God...I thought they meant Owen Wilson by Jeditemple	Oct 7th, 2003 01:08:48 PM
That crook-nosed turd is in every "buddy movie" these days. Somebody crank up "The Boys are Back in Town."
Here's a novel idea ... go back to the novels for the next movie by riskebiz	Oct 7th, 2003 01:26:04 PM
I think they ran the gambit of Ian Fleming novels, but one of the Raymond Benson or John Gardner Bond novels have GOT to be better than making one up from scratch. I remember watching the DVD extra's of the later Roger Moore films and they were writing their stories based around Broccoli vacation spots! Talk about the tail wagging the dog. That's been my main problem with Bond films since Moonraker ... they've been tail wagging the dog travelogues. They should take a John Gardner novel and just film it as is and stop doing the original screenplay route.
Mmm...a Bond of British-Arab ethnicity...great idea gobofraggleu by Salem Hanna	Oct 7th, 2003 01:38:30 PM
I'm a British Arab with a lisp and hairy chest as Conneryish as they get - I could be in the running!!!! I even have acting experience! Well, assuming past membership of drama clubs at school counts as acting experience...failing that, the new Bond should be played by a semi-famous star, like Brosnan was before he took the role. No disrespect to them, but if someone like Brad Pitt or George Clooney took the role, it would be their film and not 007s. No matter how good their English accents are.
Die another day was expendable by Dragonfire	Oct 7th, 2003 01:41:57 PM
The least memorable of all the Bond movies for me. Way too Hollywood. I liked World is not enough and Goldeneye a lot. They may have been very modernized but I thought Pierce Brosnin mixed the seriousness of the Timothy Dalton Bond with the humour of the earlier Bonds well. He gave Bond a lot of character, and Goldeneye came close to capturing the feeling of the early Bonds. The Timothy Dalton Bonds may not have had the feeling or fun of the Sean Connery and Roger Moore ones, but it was a different kind of Bond, and Desmond Llewyn said that Timothy Dalton was the closest one to Ian Flemings Bond from the novels. I think the Bond franchise is dead. It can never capture the feeling that the old ones had again, but I think it would be cool to see them take Bond in the same direction they tried to with the Timothy Dalton ones, though that's unlikely so long as the franchise keeps on raking in the cash, despite my suspicion that even the general movie-going public must be getting sick of them by now. I'm sure I heard groans from the audience a few times when the Die another day trailer played.
God Dam, the would be great by AlwaysThere	Oct 7th, 2003 01:44:05 PM
QT and Bond. Could end up surpassing the best bond flick, Goldeneye.
I heard Tarantino spout this before. While it is a cool idea, I' by Big Bad Clone	Oct 7th, 2003 02:06:57 PM
I know people bitch about normal voiceovers. I dig them when they are done right (Goodfellas). So that's not my problem, I just don't need Ian Fleming's voice (or rather Tarantino's) telling me what's what when he can just do it on screen.
Every a-list director in Hollywood has said he'd like to make a by Aston Lad	Oct 7th, 2003 02:13:00 PM
I'm guessing they're scared of the creative veto the producers hold over so many decisions. On the one hand, thats a bad thing; on the other, its kept a franchise alive for 41 years. Mixed blessing I guess.
Dalton--Timothy Dalton by kabong	Oct 7th, 2003 02:19:04 PM
An old rumor had Tarantino doing "The Man from U.N.C.L.E." He could have some fun with that. I hope the Broccoli heirs don't resort to Teen Bond: He's not licensed to drive but he's licensed to kill.
Clive will make a good Bond while we wait for Ewan McGregor to g by Big Bad Clone	Oct 7th, 2003 03:18:10 PM
But am I the only person that sees Clive Owen and see Marcy's first husband from Married with Children?
QT and Bond will not happen, definitely not soon and probably ne by dplatt	Oct 7th, 2003 03:20:45 PM
First of all, Brosnan has said he wants to do one last Bond movie because he wants to do one in his native Ireland. So forget about Owen for the next movie, period. As for QT, his quote in the article is virtually identical to things he said in 1995 shortly after Pulp Fiction and for an article in EW in 1999 (not sure about the date) on how to save the Bond franchise. Personally, I don't think he's right for the movies. Putting a Tarantino spin on the Bond movies wouldn't work. OTOH, I've heard he would do them as period pieces, which I think would be brilliant... In any case, this is all moot speculation, because Broccoli's people are very conservative about the image of Bond. They've created basically a cartoon franchise and they'll run it into the ground. If someone does go back to do Casino Royale, I'd like to see them subvert the whole franchise by going to the original source novels and doing them straight - fewer gadgets and more of Bond as a cold-blooded killer. I'd love to see Live and Let Die, for example, one of the best (and darkest) books, done properly, instead of the Roger Moore smirk-fest it turned out to be. Frankly, I'm more excited about the notion of QT doing Inglorious Bastards a la Where Eagles Dare (most underrated WWII movie ever?) than this or silly speculation about anime prequels to Kill Bill.
Bandage...Ace Bandage by acebandage	Oct 7th, 2003 04:34:09 PM
OK OK kids, here's my two cents...the only problem with the Timothy Dalton Bond films was the political correctness of the 80's. Not conducive to a mysoginistic, cold-blooded killer that Bond is. Bond should be less about the gadgets and more about Bond's ingenuity and skill. The gadgets got too specific in their use...but I don't have time for all that. Let me break it down... Actors...I think Clive Owen would be great IF he didn't see the role as such mindless pap. Maybe, if someone wrote a compelling enough script he might reconsider. Let's just hope. Hugh Jackman should stick with Wolverine. Directors... NOT Tarantino, please PLEASE God NOT Tarantino! Tarantino's strong points are witty dialogue about trivial things, 70's pop culture and non-linear story telling...I ask you, do you see ANY of that leading to a GOOD Bond film??? Bond: "Why do I have to be Bond? I mean it sounds too much like a denture product, why can't I have a cool name like ...Steele ... yeah, that sounds cool ...Steele ...Remington Steele...Hell yeah!" (as he walks away, cue Steve Miller's "Take the Money and Run") Meanwhile, a week earlier, Felix Lighter has his ear cut off. Yeah that sounds like an AWESOME Bond movie! If that's the way you want to go, why not get Tim Burton to do it...you can have Danny Elfman do the soundtrack and everyone will be dressed in black and the sets will look like Beetlejuice ate a Goth and threw up. Sorry... it's out of my system now. It just irritates me when fanboys think that a director who is incredible when it comes to directing movies in their own inimitible style will also be the perfect choice for all other movies regardless of the fact that some of those movies are dependent on the title character being the focus, not the director's distinctive style. Finally, story...the Bond films for years have totally lost the SECRET part of the SECRET agent. When the whole movie is a bunch of elaborate, over the top stunts in Major population centers, then Bond's activities can hardly be considered clandestine any more, can they? Take it back to the days of Thunderball, when Bond escaped the clutches of encroaching agents not by blowing up the entire spa that he was in but by silently dispatching one with the phone cord and then elbowing the fire alarm to blend in with the crowd and leave. Subtle. Well planned. Clever. Clandestine. These are words that haven't applied to Bond in years. Also bring back the grittiness of earlier works like the ruthlessness seen in For Your Eyes Only and Dr No. If not, you might as stick with Remington Steele, the invulnerable superhero, blowing up a city while flying a helicopter through the ensuing fireball only to meet his final end when he meets face to face with the man who was behind S.P.E.C.T.R.E. and S.M.E.R.S.H. and K.A.O.S. ... SEAN CONNERY!!! Then three years later you can start the franchise over with a hipper, sleeker, younger Bond who is a black/Arabic female who has all the coolest gadgets!
SIDEKICK by TomVee	Oct 7th, 2003 05:00:18 PM
"wouldn't it be cool if Bond was played by an actor who actually could pass as a modern-day spy? there are plenty of excellent black british actors and actors who are of middle-eastern and asian origin." No it would not be cool. Unless Denzel Washington stepped into the role, no one -- and I mean absolutely no one -- would go to see the next Bond movie. Casting a non-white actor as Bond (again with the exception of Washington) would drive away the mainstream audience. That's like saying the next Tarzan should be a non-white. There's no audience for a non-white Tarzan. Now, on the other hand, a Dean Cain type would be OK as either Bond or Tarzan. Cain is white nut with a slightly exotic (Polynesian, Asian, whatever) look to him. Clive Owen strikes me as an excellent choice for the next Bond. Hugh Jackman is all wrong, as would Guy Pearce or that "Gladiator" actor.
Keep Brosnan forever for God's sake!!!! by Ron McDiddy	Oct 7th, 2003 05:04:09 PM
First I want to agree with everyone who likes Timothy Dalton. Not only is he awesome, but The Living Daylights is probably my favorite Bond film. Due in part to its "international feel" but mostly to Dalton himself. Seeing Dalton is seeing Bond. A man on a mission, not afraid to kill in order to save the world. I like the Dalton films because while there's a certain amount of reality, there's still that larger than life aspect that's needed in any Bond film. True Bond fans don't go see a Bond film for a true spy thriller, they go to watch Bond save the world. Regardless of Dalton though, Brosnan is the best. Period. I don't know why you guys are bitching about him. All of his films, with the exception of Tommorrow Never Dies, were awesome. In the latest, Die Another Day, you have the cool fencing scene, the iceberg escape and the Aston Martin chase. Plus Halle Berry! And I love the scene where Bond's dangling, ringing the bell. Brosnan that makes it work. The way he walks, the way he talks, the way he smirks and even the way he parts his hair are Bond. If the character walked out of Fleming's novels he'd look and act just like Brosnan. So, I think it's important to keep him as long as possible. If he wants more money give it to him. Cut out an action sequence if you must to pay his salary, but keep Brosnan! The two other most popular Bonds, Connery and Moore, both made seven films. So far Brosnan has made four and will make a fifth. Still, I hope he's able to make seven like the others. As far as Casino Royale's concerned, it's a great book and would make a great movie. Though, changes would have to be made and I don't want so see it without Brosnan. If Taurentino has the rights, I'm in favor of Brosnan leaving to make it with him. As long as he makes a sixth film for MGM and Casino Royale is his seventh. Not that Brosnan couldn't do more than seven. No matter how old he gets, I don't think he'll wear out his welcome or show his age as badly as previous Bonds. When it comes to replacements, I have to say Clive Owen is a complete and utter douche bag. There is nothing at all about that justifies casting him as James Bond. He sucks! He blows balls! Though Hugh Jackman's better, I agree with the talkbacker who said he should stay Wolverine. The only actor I can see taking the reins from Brosnan (hopefully far in the future) is Christian Bale. Finally I want to say that the series is fine the way it is, though I would enjoy it if they were to start adapting the novels of John Gardener or Raymond Benson.
B.J. For J.B. (Not That Kind of BJ!) OR... "ME?! I Bomb. Jake by jollydwarf	Oct 7th, 2003 05:06:37 PM
Why does the actor playing Bond have to be British, daper, and very handsome? Why can't Hollywood redefine this role as well? The antithesis of Pierce? Juice, of course! As in Beetlejuice from the Howard Stern show! He's finally matured to his mid-thirties, so he can "sell" the role. And instead of the always-repeated "Bond. James Bond," introduction, we can look forward to a new variation EVERY film! There's your hook. "ME?! My name is Bone, dude. Jimmy Bone. I bond wits the women, dude. Jane? She don' know shit, dude. I got three kids and six wives, dude. Dey all named Jamie, dude. Drunken Jamie? Hey, you gots to ask him 'bout dat. I ain'ts got nuttin' ta do wit it." And why have these exotic locations for opening sequences, when you could give the series that modern "adrenaline shot" twist with a chase between pissed-off bouncers and Beet (with a delirious stripper) through Jersey City just after sunrise? Forget "XXX2", THAT would be your casting news du jour! (How many legitimate Bond fans did I piss off? Show of hands...hold 'em up...one, two, three, four...no, keep 'em held up...ten, fifteen....)
STEELE by TomVee	Oct 7th, 2003 05:15:42 PM
"Brosnan was the first choice. Wasn't he contractually obligated to Remington Steele or something? I thought the two Dalton Bond flicks were better than anything Brosnan has done." NBC indeed held tight to Brosnan when he was ready to become the next Bond. On the other hand, by the time Brosnan finally became Bond, he had matured considerably and better fit the part. He is certainly good for one more Bond, although he looked pretty haggard the last time around. And, unfortunately, none of his Bond outings have been particularly good. The Dalton Bond films weren't bad, and Moore had a two or three decent Bonds in him. But it is impossible to duplicate the aura of the early Connery Bond flicks. That's what everyone who is a Bond fan is constantly looking for. Clive Owen or Sean Bean or any number of decent British actors will make a fine Bond when brosnan steps down, but the magic of the series is long gone.
Jude Law is Bond by super Cucaracha	Oct 7th, 2003 05:31:28 PM
He can be smooth, have a dark side and can also act.
Re: Clive Owen not being interested in doing Bond by Yossarian	Oct 7th, 2003 05:40:04 PM
Didn't he say that Bond wouldn't interest him as a project, that he'd much rather play a bad guy? I'm pretty sure that is his "official" stance on the issue.
Hmm...seems to be a lot of appreciation for Dalton on this talkb by Aston Lad	Oct 7th, 2003 05:44:07 PM
About time. I always loved his work in Licence to Kill. But why the sudden change of heart? I never knew so many people shared my opinion on the guy. Is it some kind of backlash against 'cartoony' Bonds? An ageing of the series' target audience? Or just an overdue re-appraisal?
"You know what would be cool? If Tim Burton directed Planet of t by Big Bad Clone	Oct 7th, 2003 05:51:49 PM

I've said it before and i'll say it again - JASON ISAACS! by togmeister	Oct 7th, 2003 05:53:13 PM
Bale, Law and Mcgregor are all too young. in fact, i think Bale is still in his twenties and Bond is supposed to be a Commander, remember. Isaacs is the right age, looks right and can act.
Bond producers - some free advice by Spacesheik	Oct 7th, 2003 06:21:41 PM
To the Bond producers next time: steer cleer of a Bond using Uzi's with both hands, factories, satellites that have the power to destroy earth, ecological disasters, nuke weapons, complex plots dealing with identity switches,sidekicks - male or female, submarines and planes, multiple villains, Bond girls who turn evil, Bond running from a fireball or explosion, horrible theme songs, and CGI.
Did Clive Owen really say he it "wouldn't be a challenge"? by waylayer	Oct 7th, 2003 06:55:13 PM
I mean, was he "challenged" by driving a car in the BMW films? Was he challenged when he starred in a PC game (Privateer 2: The Darkening - which also had John Hurt and Chris Walken!!!)? That quote just doesn't seem like something Owen would say, is all. I would welcome him as the new Bond. friendswithbenefits.com
i,TylerDurden by Ribbons	Oct 7th, 2003 09:29:37 PM
There is one TEENSY, weensy difference between AICN fanboys and studio executives: AICN fanboys don't have the resources to host casting calls, auditions, interviews, what have you. Plus, for most people, and I can't speak for you, we don't have the time to sift through piles of obscure films each week in order to find some sort of diamond in the rough. As for those in Hollywood, well, that's their job. Sure, there's a lot of schmoozing, cruising, posturing, and overall motion, but at the end of the day, they have the money and the resources and the objective to cover every nook and cranny. Maybe people (myself included) should be more experimental with their Friday Night Rentals. However, we're not the same as studio execs. We make casting calls, however misinformed, because they're the best fit we've seen. THEY make the same starstruck casting calls while true talent lies, perhaps, right under their noses because they know this is how we think. They don't want to introduce the world to new stars. They want to perpetuate their own.
More on why Dalton's films were better... by Mel Garga	Oct 7th, 2003 09:53:23 PM
Ponder this suckholes - the Living Daylights opens with a friggin' A-Ha song. That's your whole northern Euro market locked up right there in the opening credits. And then they pull a fast one and have the Pretenders close the show with a nice little tune. What a beauty! With the exception of Ursela Andress vuluptuous curves, the Connery movies are incredibly dated and shitty. After Dalton's Bond films, the best Bond was For Your Eyes Only.
the rights to Bond Movies... by Nazzim O'Bazzim	Oct 7th, 2003 10:23:12 PM
ok, correct me if I'm wrong, and I know you will... Wouldn't Tarantino have an easier time getting the rights to remake Thunderball? Isn't that the only one outside the ownership of EON now? Because it's not based on a book? ( And that's why Never Say Never Again could be made during the Moore Days with a "rival Bond" - it was a remake of Thunderball?) Seems I read this somewhere, once upon a time
If we can't have Timothy Dalton, by kabong	Oct 7th, 2003 10:27:14 PM
may I suggest . . . Pearce--Guy Pearce?
The novels are being used by MGTHEDJ	Oct 7th, 2003 10:45:56 PM
For the record EON has been using the post-Fleming novels for the films, they just don
I wish it was Owens maybe Bond 22, but another topic came up by UberSpectre	Oct 7th, 2003 11:29:49 PM
Someone made a comment about Bond being played by a black actor. Why does every movie almost haft to have a good black guy in it? Its not like we see any movies with black bad guys in them. Shit I have not seen a movie with a black bad guy since Live and Let Die... I mean keep Bond the way he is, a white British guy who fancies a shag and a drink... I mean I am sure people would get pissed off if I said Shaft or Blade should be played by a pale ass German guy or something
dis is wicked by survive	Oct 7th, 2003 11:55:47 PM
My god all this talk back is great. I've been a bond fan since I was too young to fuck. Brosnan is a great Bon stuck in a crappy films. I've been loosing sleep with the fact that the shittist Bond films are making the most money, but after reading your guys remark has given me faith again. I've been too scared to sat Dalton was a fantastic Bond. For Your Eyes only was a great Bond movie (shit this must be what its like for gay guys coming out the closet). dare I say that not only was OHMSS the best Bond film but Lazenby ran tings as our hero. Carrying that much pressure on a role that no one could see past Connery deserves more respect. Lazenby's could mash up all the other Bonds in a fistfight any day. He was something that the other Bonds weren't... Human. It had the strongest and character driven plot. The deepest Bong song. Faultless action. Larger than life Villain who was still realistic. This is the way the movies should go. The producers should realize that they can not surprise us with their lame attempts at cutting edge action, instead lets have a solid spy story. What they should do is make it a great espionage movie and then put in the Bond elements after. Clive Owen would be great but he's not charming enough. Bale is my favorite, but he's now lost in the Batman. Colin Salmon would be brave almost too brave. Some said Jason Isaac just inspirational. What we need to focus on in the story. The stories have been crap. A good writer could combine all the fantastical elements with reality. Mission Impossible (the first one) was the best Bond film in ages. Let
Tarantino? There is no God. by MyNameDoesn'tFit	Oct 8th, 2003 12:25:13 AM
Just what the Bond franchise needs--more fucking up!
Fuq by OsamaBinBlofeld	Oct 8th, 2003 01:02:46 AM
To think this time last year I was finally getting into Bond. I didn't like OO7 at all before, then I just got so wrapped up in it all that I couldn't oppress the love. The Dalton ones are my faves..oh yeah. The fucking thing that pisses me off is that every fucker hated him and his Bond films 2 days ago. Now we got this "Dalton is #1" shit now. Oh to that dill that said Alias makes Bond look silly must be on mt. everest smoking hash b/c unlike Alias the 007 flicks never take them selves seriously unlike that piece of ABC dreck.
Dalton/Owen by CHEWBLACCA	Oct 8th, 2003 02:10:02 AM
First off:I loved Dalton as Bond.So he wasn't given the best material to work with-He was great.He brought the DANGER back to the character.You could believe that he was a cold-blooded killer.Bond hadn't felt that dangerous since DR.NO.I wish they'd given him more time to make his mark.(Hell,he still looks good enough to pull it off) But no point in dwelling on it--As for Clive Owen:I haven't see much of his work(I'll have to pick up a used copy of Bourne Identity tomorrow).But,I like his look.He's not fancy or delicate.He could also have that element of danger that Bond requires.Remember,in the books he's not the most handsome man on earth.Which begs the question:why have they never let Bond have his scar on screen?-Lastly:The makers need to break out of the mold a bit.I like Brosnan,but at this rate the series is going to stagnate and go back into hibernation(maybe that would be a good thing).Anyway,of all the names thrown around,I think Clive Owen is the best man for the job.And isn't that what 007 is all about?
BOND and Other Such Fandboy Musing by Lukecash	Oct 8th, 2003 02:50:06 AM
What is it about fanboys? All the sudden, "oooooh" Dalton was the TRUE Bond....Oh he was so REALISTIC" Or "Connery was the BEST Bond EVER!" The fact of the matter is MANY non-geek people Love Peirce Bronson. Die Another Day actually is the HIGHEST grossing James Bond flick to date. Dalton, while he was more "serious" and true to the books-was too much of a namby pampy one guy woman. Really! Oh no, Dalton had to have his "weepy" moments. The Movie Bond is about Gadgjets, Girls, Puns and Action. Pierce Bronson has gotten better with every movie. He is ruthless, funny and above all...a class act. Remember how he strutted into the Chineese hotel looking like a bum, but exuding the James Bond Confidence? Daltons Bond would have just sat in the corner and cried.
Grow up Dalton fans - HE WAS SHITE by Antiriad	Oct 8th, 2003 05:05:21 AM
Jeez am I tired of wankstained fanboys waxing lyrical about fucking Timothy Dalton (and the dire George Lazenby). These are the same idiots who want ground in reality and talk about how OHMSS was the "greatest Bond film ever" and Moonraker was the worst...FFS! BOND IS HYPER REALITY! If James Bond was set in the real world he wouldnt exist! Hed be an American and be part of a team! Daltons films were both cheap messes. The Living Daylights is devoid of ANY plot and Licence to Kill is a nasty brutish B movie. Timothy Dalton was far too serious an actor and tried to make the popcorn character James Bond have depth - WHICH HE DOESNT! He was incapable of being charming or remotely humourous. Both he and Lazenby tried to make the character something of an anti hero as he is depicted by Fleming, unfortunately by the mid sixties Broccoli Bond was established as a hero and this can not be changed. Clive Owen would be Timothy Dalton all over again, a overtly talented actor too good for the role who would try to develop Bond beyond his limits. Lets not forget that Roger Moore and Pierce Brosnan arent consumate actors with depth but charming, but likeable pretty boys and that my friends is what the character requires. Dougray Scott really should be the next Bond as anyone who has seen him in MI-2 he is the natural successor to Sean Connery - another burly rough diamond Scotsman who can be both witty and ruthless.
Never Say Never Again by Grr66	Oct 8th, 2003 08:35:59 AM
As I understood it rights to this film (and any potential Thunderball remake)now reside with MGM/UA -the studio of the official Bond movies - due to a deal struck which involved all rights to a Spiderman film reverting to Sony. Everyone's a winner as it turns out. There is no chance of an 'unofficial' Bond movie anymore. Just to throw another name into the arena what about Jeremy Northam? Excellent actor and I believe he has the right look for Bond.
Dalton was good by Jeditemple	Oct 8th, 2003 11:18:40 AM
Timothy Dalton kept the franchise going during a very difficult time in the later 80's, when Bond was dead and interest had waned with the lackluster "View to a Kill." The Cold War was over and that put a HUGE dent in all espionage movies...with the lack of a big Red menace. Dalton carried the torch when no one else could. He was the man of a few hours, but I loved his two movies. He took Bond to new extremes and played him like a pro. Case in point: In "License to Kill" he told MI-6 to @#$% off, because he was going off on his vendetta, whether they liked it or not. That my friends, is Bond.
hey anti, whatever the fuck your name is.... by MisterGrimloch	Oct 8th, 2003 12:38:16 PM
i have ALWAYS thought Dalton was the best Bond specifically because he brought a sense of reality to the series that had not existed to that point. because mainstream audiences are too fucking juvenile to bear witness to that undeniable fact (and yeah, its FACT) doesn't interest me at all. the Bond films were nothing like their Fleming written inspirations until Dalton stepped into the role (with, as has been stated before, the exception of OHMSS, which is arguably the best film of the series, though not my personal favorite. i would place it third, behind the two Dalton films) and cleaned up the over the top element that had been left behind from a perfectly acceptable Roger Moore. Now, we must suffer through these insipidly mindless Brosnan pictures, which have no sense of danger, horribly staged action sequences, which play to the moron teen-age crowd of today (in other words, half the losers on this site) who prefer some lame shit like XXX, where the most explosions determines a movie's "merit", even though 4 months later they have no idea what film they saw, because in reality it was forgettable horseshit. Brosnan is a very feminine actor, bearing a resemblance to what would be, perhaps Tim Dalton's younger, weaker brother. Brosnan is too slight of build for the role, and he constantly infuses the scenes with posturing that even Roger Moore didn't stoop to. of all the actors within the MGM franchise to portray the role, Brosnan is the most improperly cast, since Bond is not supposed to appear to be totally unthreatening. obviously, the dickheads that think Dalton is questionable, are slaves to whatever shit the Broccoli brood wishes to dish out, so long as the masses suck it up. in short, Brosnan totally sucks, and his films are horrendously written and directed. any change of actor would be welcome at this point.
Title revision on "License to Kill" by Mel Garga	Oct 8th, 2003 02:34:55 PM
Someone above mentioned that the working title on "License to Kill" was "License Revoked." As I remember it, the title was changed because most 'tards didn't understand what the word "revoked" meant. Jason Isaacs and Jeremy Northam would both be cool Bonds with Ben Cross as a cool sidekick.
Maybe Harry can worm his way into a QT Bond film by Stan Gable	Oct 8th, 2003 03:15:54 PM
He can be an evil henchman called Odd Smell.
ANY actor will help, as long as by koomoReborn	Oct 8th, 2003 03:48:11 PM
ANY actor will help these movies, as long as they play the role where we can believe, if only momentarily, that Bond can be injured, killed, or at the least show a glimpse of fear, doubt, or uncertainty. No more smug pretty-boys for me, please.
Casino Royale by avaloh	Oct 8th, 2003 04:11:07 PM
Granted - I don't know Casino Royale, but if Quentin Tarantino really does tackle it eventually and gets Pierce Brosnan for it, I hope he'll try to go for Angelina Jolie as the woman he falls for. Why has nobody put those two together yet?!
Bond is dead by Darth Hideous	Oct 8th, 2003 04:43:40 PM
Dead as Dilinger. I don't think modern audiences can even appreciate what made Bond movies great to begin with. Connery isn't the best Bond, he's the only Bond worth watching. The reason is that those Bonds are the only ones that halfway understood the character - although Dalton came close. Bond has to have several elements: one, he has to be having fun, two, he has to be a sexist bastard (and loving it!) with very little regard for anyone other than himself and no ability to form intimate bonds with anyone whatsoever, and three, all of the foregoing are ways he copes with the stress of a job that would break any lesser man in a heartbeat, and he revels in that fact. The other Bonds have let that pain show through occasionally, but Connery showed us the constant war going on inside Bond in every scene, and was brilliant at it. The Brosnan bonds are crapfests, nothing but bloated product-placement orgies full of bad blockbuster F/X, cheesy one-liners, and plots more nonsensical than ever. Pay $10 to watch a 100-minute BMW and Rolex (or Omega, or whatever) commercial? No thanks. Who cares who the next Bond is? The movie will suck royal ass regardless.
MisterGayloch, or whatever the fuck your name is by Antiriad	Oct 8th, 2003 04:44:29 PM
Try all you like Dalton was fucking shite and the fact that his films BOMBED at the box office is testamount to that. Fucking John Glen was a tired old useless hack who should have been fired after the lamentable View To A Kill and Michael G Wilson had completely run out of ideas by the time he got to writing Daltons two pieces of shite films. Fuck Dalton fans - youre all fucking losers. His films suck ass and almost killed the franchise.
Antiriad.... by MisterGrimloch	Oct 8th, 2003 07:13:00 PM
whine all you like, you pathetic moron, but whether or not you acknowledge it, the Dalton films did not "bomb" at the box office. look at the worldwide receipts for either film, and you will see that the only perceived failing is that License to Kill did not perform well during a very competetive summer of '89, in the US. worldwide, however, is another story, and its box office is well over 200 million. if that is "bombing", especially considering that it was 1989 ticket prices, which would adjust to around 400 million today, then you are an even bigger asshat than i thought. also, be thankful that you are "safely hidden" with your internet disguise. running into you would be a pleasure. but i don't think you'd like it.
Bond Period by Oknight	Oct 8th, 2003 09:38:10 PM
I didn't read this whole thread, but scanning I didn't see anybody who mentioned that Tarantino (quite properly) wants to do Bond as a period piece. Bond belongs to the 1950's--60's as certainly as Holmes belongs in gaslight. However, if he wanted to make Bond, why not just make Bond and call him something else? Why hassle with Eon, the character would become its own icon.
Lars von Trier once said he would like to make a Bond movie too by Dan_Average	Oct 8th, 2003 09:39:32 PM
GOSH I WONDER IF IT'S TRUE!!!!!!! WE NEED TO DO A STORY ON THIS!!!!!!!!!
MasterGayLock by Antiriad	Oct 9th, 2003 06:15:19 AM
Im SO fucking scared.

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