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Enemy by Recognizer	Aug 6th, 2003 11:56:58 PM
It's nice to see some of the members of the teem doing some "seeding" -- Mutant Enemy goodness spreading among the rest of Television will make it a lot easier to watch. On the other hand, it's going to be harder to choose which shows on which to focus, with Espenson on O.C., Kirshner on Casino, and fragments of the team on Angel (but Thank You Gord, Edlund is something of an "Enemy Regular" now). Excited to see what becomes of a Firefly movie, but as an aside -- did Herc have any info on what happened to Season Three Superstar Dan Vebber, of Lover's Walk and (I believe) Homecoming?
Good Luck to her by Shular	Aug 6th, 2003 11:57:32 PM
She'll need it
She's Eve? by TFMinistry	Aug 7th, 2003 12:00:26 AM
Uninspired casting for the role of Eve, really, but I suppose we'll wait and see. She's immediately going to be compared to Stephanie Romanov, which is painfully unfair on her part. As for Rebecca Rand-Kirshner, meh... Never one of my favourite writers on the show. Fitting for her to go on to a mediocre NBC show.
Dan Webber was writing for Futurama by TFMinistry	Aug 7th, 2003 12:01:50 AM
He also wrote The Zeppo, one of my favourite Xander episodes, and a brilliant slight self-parody of the series. I believe since Futurama is dead (Rest its soul), he's shopping around a Scrubs spec script.
Thanks, TFM... by Recognizer	Aug 7th, 2003 12:04:53 AM
Right, it wasn't Homecoming, it was The Zeppo. I am smoking crack, but at least it's good crack.
Futurama is Dead, Long Live Futurama... by Mad_Radhu	Aug 7th, 2003 12:12:22 AM
For a "dead" show it sure is kicking ratings ass on Cartoon Network. I read somewhere the Futurama/Family Guy block was beating Jimmy Kimmel in the ratings. Pretty good for a cable show a lot of the US doesn't have access to.
by Recognizer	Aug 7th, 2003 12:16:26 AM
Maybe the problem, reason Futurama and Family Guy died, is that the nets gave them such craptastic timeslots that we had to download the whole series off whatever people fileshared on at the time. I think Gnutella or Morpheus... actually may have been CuteMX of all things. Regardless, Comedy-type things probably show them at consistent times, and more than once-per-week, and so people actually know when to watch. If I could predictably watch Futurama and Family Guy (and in a way I sorta can, thanks to Comedy Network in Toronto) I would, and so would most of my wit-starved generation.
"TEAM ANGEL?" more like "TEAM ANGLE" by Guerilla_Films	Aug 7th, 2003 12:24:40 AM
Someone's been watching a tad bit too much SMACKDOWN...oh it's true, it's DAMN TRUE!
"Wit-Starved Generation" by TFMinistry	Aug 7th, 2003 12:25:07 AM
I can completely agree with this. I think the real tragic thing is that most have to look to animation for comedy. That's all good and fine, but where are the sitcoms, and sketch-comedy? Friends and SNL?!
Didn't Get My Fray by negamit	Aug 7th, 2003 12:42:55 AM
I planned to stop at a comic book shop before work today but then traffic happened. So I don't yet have Fray in hand.. and it makes me all urpy inside. I needs muh Fray.
Dana Poole was hot, but what about... by Led Gopher	Aug 7th, 2003 01:26:01 AM
the actress on Boston Public that plays the girl who fell in love with Joey McIntyre's character? The character was also a descendant of Ralph Waldo Emerson. Anyone know the girl I am talking about? Anyone?
Animated and subversive comedy by Recognizer	Aug 7th, 2003 01:37:02 AM
Thanks to Simpsons, cartoon writers realized they could be subversive and stay under the radar. I think that since, well, ever, the best comedy has been subversive. Lenny Bruce, Chris Rock -- subversive. I think that if more of the Mutant Enemy vets found their way into animation writing, they'd get a chance to push even further than with the Meat shows (Buffy, Angel, Firefly). I hope we get a chance to see more Vebber and soon.
Funny guy by DyslexicHeart	Aug 7th, 2003 02:27:31 AM
Picked-up my copy of Fray earlier today but I just got back from an awesome concert by Marcia Ball so I'm too drunk to get into right now. If Dan Webber is shopping around a Scrubs spec then I hope NBC takes a look at his Buffy ep "The Zeppo" and get the wonderful Nicholas Brendan on that show pronto. He'd be a perfect fit for that incredible comedy ensemble, so would Tom Lenk now that I think about it. Hell, why not a Xander/Andrew spin-off? Just throw in one of the many slayers out running around and give Xander his eye back(Willow can surely concoct a spell to heal him) so he doesn't have to wear an eye patch all the time.
Doug Petrie by Liquid_Daze	Aug 7th, 2003 02:54:44 AM
Was happy to see ME retaining the talents of Drew Goddard, but was more than a bit disappointed that Douglas Petrie was plucked up by the folks at Tru Calling. Petrie's writing ("Bad Girls", "Revelations", "Fool For Love") was imho some of the best on the series, possesing the good mix comicbook-style myth-spinning, humor, and emotion. So Cheers Doug! Hope that Tru survives in the timeslot-from-hell long enough for others to recognize your talent, and that you'll get to run your own show someday... or one of those choice Marvel Comics properties.
Whedon is the enemy by Sherlock_Holmes_	Aug 7th, 2003 03:27:32 AM
Contributing to the dumbing-down of science fiction is the crime. Phillip K. Dick he is not.
What? The last issue of FRAY is out? Damn,... right under my nos by Psyclops	Aug 7th, 2003 03:50:52 AM
It's about time!!! I've been DYING to know how this is going to end. Bring on the Slayer!!
How subversive is The Simpsons? They broadcasted the dirtiest j by Toby O Notoby	Aug 7th, 2003 04:28:47 AM
You can still see it in re-runs and the censors have never caught on: The whole family is walking by a store called Sneed
Toby O Notoby by earthworm	Aug 7th, 2003 04:46:01 AM
I apologise if I'm being stupid, I don't think I get it. ANyone care to explain?
Earthworm by Toby O Notoby	Aug 7th, 2003 05:01:00 AM
Nah, not being stupid, it just takes a while. Sneed's Feed and Seed, formally Buck's. In other words Buck's Fuck and Suck.
Team Angle/Angel by Denny187	Aug 7th, 2003 07:59:09 AM
Maybe Team Angel should start calling themselves "The World's Greatest Fang Gang". You SUCK!...You SUCK!...You SUCK!...You SUCK! (Get it?)
Massive Rack by Harrys Man Boobs	Aug 7th, 2003 09:25:23 AM
The chick question is Courtney Peldon. She has a sister who is really hot, too. Check out peldon.com
Kimmel' by RenoNevada2000	Aug 7th, 2003 09:42:03 AM

Kimmel's Ratings by RenoNevada2000	Aug 7th, 2003 09:42:44 AM
I could do a late night talkshow in my apartment's window and score a bigger rating...
Cheers Toby by earthworm	Aug 7th, 2003 10:01:59 AM
Doh. Normally I wouldn't have raised my head over the parapet, but as it was Simpsons I figured 'What the hey?'
Collected Fray? by Chakalak	Aug 7th, 2003 11:35:11 AM
Any news on a forthcoming collection? I'd long since given up on chasing down the individual issues.
Ladies, subversive means going against the culture, the power ba by BannthisUcommies	Aug 7th, 2003 11:46:08 AM
campuses) thats who is subversive now. The conservatives are the liberals these days, expousing democracy and freedom while the liberals push intolerance, oppression and socialism. If you think that shit is funny you must be a fan of Stalin (which to many of you isn't even an insult).
UCommies? by Recognizer	Aug 7th, 2003 12:23:30 PM
Hey BannThis, subversion can be in favour of the established power base too. I hate Stalin, he was a bastard. I hate Adolf too. They, however, were very subversive. So subversive isn't necessarily a good thing -- but it tends to be funnier. On the other hand, you've got to be insane to think that liberal values are predominant in North America. Maybe in the entertainment industry, but there are a lot of people who don't live in New York City, Massachusetts, or L.A., and even those who do are getting more conservative.
Coutney is nice by ThingsThatTimDog	Aug 7th, 2003 01:32:56 PM
But Ashley is a fickin goddess.
Oh really BannThis? by GypsyTRobot	Aug 7th, 2003 02:19:16 PM
Actually neoconservativism is subversive these days, in the strictest sense of the word. As in, subverting our democracy and this country as a whole. Have you been awake these past few years? Read the news? (TV is useless). Our country is going into serious debt, millions of jobs have been lost, there are secret no-fly lists that include peaceful political activists (right wing as well as left wing), secret trials, paperless --and easily hacked-- voting machines -- now conveniently with no exit polling for extra banana republic-y goodness, Rumsfeld is purging the Army of its top generals, the 40 hour work week and overtime being undermined, any job that can be possbily be done by an Indian with minimal English skills will be offshored (including computer and graphic design jobs), the 9/11 report has a slew of missing pages, Ashcroft is getting into your library records, the latest EPA report has chunks missing while the relatively conservative Whitman resigns, Bush won't even release Clinton's files . . . sounds like conspiracy? It's all true ya silly idiot, and it's gonna get worse. Bann This just put your head down and toe the party line, maybe when the pograms start in 5 or 10 years they'll just stash you in a reeducation camp for using the Internet too much, for about a year -- then reinstitute you and your kids in Walmart smocks for $1.00 and $.10 hour respectively, working 80 hours a week. Lucky you, I'll be ashes in the wind over Gitmo, if I didn't make it onto that last boat to New Zealand. -- Gypsy, only slightly tongue in cheek
hey Chakalak by arkhan77	Aug 7th, 2003 03:48:04 PM
the Fray tpb is supposed to come on November 26, 19.95$ for the softcover, 79.95$ for the hardcover edition with "tip in plate signed by Joss Whedon and Karl Moline" (thanks to Previews for the info. i would however recommend you at least hunt down issue 8 if you're a real Joss Whedon fan, since the man himself writes the lettercol.
The show Las Vegas can just straight FUCK off by HavokJD	Aug 7th, 2003 06:50:45 PM
It's gonna suck.
"The power base has been on the left for decades now." by Voice O. Reason	Aug 7th, 2003 09:11:08 PM
As a teacher of both World History and American Government, in my professional opinion, that's complete nonsense. Our current elected government (both legislative and executive) is probably the most conservative one since the 1950's. Only token concessions have been given to the left in this country since the 1970's. Your statement was just a misguided attempt to blame our nation's current problems on an ideology that is largely unpracticed. You will fail at any attempt to provide documentation that might back up your imaginary claims, because such evidence does not exist.
Think you're waiting a long time for FRAY? by DocFilth	Aug 8th, 2003 07:36:10 AM
JLA/Avengers has taken 17 years so far...
hey silveragent by allnamesaretaken	Aug 8th, 2003 07:57:56 AM
have you received your shirtless spike posters yet?
GypsTR Robot by lynxpro	Aug 8th, 2003 04:26:07 PM
Exit polling has always been a scam. So don't cry when it allegedly isn't practiced anymore. Go read "Votescam" on how reliable all those old vote tabulating machines were, or the alleged impartiality of the League of Women Voters...and this was all long before the 2000 election... Considering that Nixon actually won the 1960 election, nobody should be complaining about the Florida schenanigans of 2000, either side of the political fence... But wait, aren't we supposed to be talking about Mutant Enemy?
"Considering that Nixon actually won the 1960 election..." by Voice O. Reason	Aug 9th, 2003 12:08:53 AM
Don't you just love it when 40 year old conspirracy theories rear their ugly heads? Kennedy would've still won, even without Illinois. Get over it.

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