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SINBAD: LEGEND OF THE SEVEN SEAS review

nice by imageburn13	Jun 27th, 2003 02:17:13 PM
all dreamworks efforts in animation come out reasonably above average
Yeah, but..... by orlandocfa	Jun 27th, 2003 02:23:27 PM
Did your nephew poop his pants? I heard this movie only ranks 2 crap filled diapers out of a possible 5.
I only have one thing to add... by Curiously Strong	Jun 27th, 2003 02:25:06 PM

I only have one thing to add... by Curiously Strong	Jun 27th, 2003 02:25:35 PM
The 23rd of June came and went without a peep
I too grew up with Sinbad by WeedyMcSmokey	Jun 27th, 2003 02:31:38 PM
He was a large man, swarthy really, who used to attempt to touch me inappropriately.
Great, in-depth review! by goonie	Jun 27th, 2003 02:32:22 PM
Harry--I think you are doing an excellent job. Keep up the good work, and the nice, long reviews.
No mention of Baghdad? That's pretty pathetic.. by Tarl_Cabot	Jun 27th, 2003 02:34:56 PM
When are they gonna make a decent live action Sinbad?
Why hire Brad Pitt? I don't get the fascination with him. How ma by Tarl_Cabot	Jun 27th, 2003 02:37:49 PM
Ewan McGregor would have been better.
Does Sinbad battle terrorists on a hot air ballon? by Grando	Jun 27th, 2003 02:46:07 PM
That would be pretty cool.
by Rome&BrianGarage	Jun 27th, 2003 02:46:21 PM
Brad Pitt is cool...Ewan Mcgregor is a huge flaming piece of Moulin Rouge.....and that is seriously gay!
I still can't bring myself to see this crap. by Movietool	Jun 27th, 2003 03:03:06 PM
Dreamworks and Disney are so interchangable that I don't know why you even bothered to remind us which studio made it. I'm so utterly tired of both of their efforts that it's pointless to continue to distinguish between the two. With the outstanding exception of Iron Giant, American 2D animation continues to wallow in a quagmire of modern day colloquial language, "hip" characters that will remain absolutley glued into the decade they were created, and funny animal sidekicks which serve no purpose other than to compensate for weak main characters. I know, I know, this is a movie for kids and I shouldn't judge it before I see it. Screw that - the dammed TRAILER has Sinbad saying "cool" like some California juvenile for God's sake. I don't want my kids to think that Sinbad went around saying "cool." I want them to hear him say "Allah be praised!" I want an animated movie that TRANSPORTS ME AWAY from people who say "cool." Clearly American audiences aren't ready for "serious" animation yet - I can accept that - and clearly Dream-Disney-Works is making their movies for kids and kids don't care if Sinbad says "cool" or "I rock!" or "Sinbad in the Hiz-ouse!!!" But is it so impossible to imagine that you could get rid of the modern colloquial bullshit and give me a movie that both me and my kid can enjoy? Modern colloquial was funny when Robin Williams did it in Aladin - it was wearing THIN by the time Mulan came out - it sucked in Hercules (which also all-around-sucked) and now it's just a sign of laziness. "Hey! Wouldn't it be wacky to hear (insert classic literary character) say (insert modern day saying)? Yeah! That will get a laugh out of all the kids!" Ugh. . . . . I'll pass.
I'll be going to check this out only because I always go see ani by Terry_1978	Jun 27th, 2003 03:04:55 PM
with the exception of some of the more annoying nickeoldeon ones. Dreamworks animation has always had that somewhat "adult"(if you can call it that) edge to it, and I may go just for the hell of it on the holiday weekend.
brad hater by purplemonkeydw	Jun 27th, 2003 03:08:50 PM
What is the deal with the brad haters? Outside of Cool World, I've liked most of the stuff he's done...seriously, Fight Club? Snatch? I'm convinced his role in Snatch paved the way for Collin Farrel...oh, now I see why some of you don't like him.
As my name implies - I'm a tool by Movietool	Jun 27th, 2003 03:11:40 PM
Mulan came out AFTER Hercules. It's just that Hercules was the pinnacle of the "Modern Colloquial Syndrome" in American animation. Hercules took a big steaming DUMP on the greek myth and didn't even feel bad about it. Walt Disney had the balls to leave Pinnocio's darker aspects alone - where is that edge now?
What the hell - I'll keep going by Movietool	Jun 27th, 2003 03:32:41 PM
Looking back on my post, I'll concede my lumping of Dreamworks so completely with the Mouse House was a little unfair. The Prince of Egypt was a good movie - devoid of most of what I was ranting about. Since than, however, Dreamworks keeps slipping into Disney territory. Road to El Dorado (which began a downward swing) and Spirit (which seemed like SKGs answer to the ridiculous Pocahontus - mired in Political Correctness). And just to be fair to Disney - The Emperor's New Groove was a great movie. I guess what I'm really mad at is the constant "re-imagining" of classic tales that have ample adventure and humor and drama AS THEY ARE. I resent the modernization - the sterilization - and the lost opportunity to present these great works without fiddling around with them so drastically. Crap, I take this stuff too seriously.
My view on Sinbad... by CoolDan989	Jun 27th, 2003 03:34:07 PM
First of all, I probably won't be seeing this. Second of all, I find it kind of ironic and hypocritical that Brad Pitt criticized cutesy animated films with celebrity voices in Fight Club but is now appeaing in one himself. And third...sorry I have to say this, but Eris really does have big breasts. Sorry, couldn't resist observing that. It's just an observation, people!
Boo Hoo! Oh the poor Muslims! by SexyBeast	Jun 27th, 2003 03:46:07 PM
Harry rips America again. We are now the evil crusaders corrupting a glorious muslim fable...Time for some suicide bombings I guess. Maybe fly a couple planes into some more buildings to kill the evil Americans. Never seen a FILM site so anti american in my life. Something tells me Harry would sooner vote for Osama Bin Laden than Bush in 2004
Technically, that'd be the Greek original HERACLES by Trav McGee	Jun 27th, 2003 04:03:42 PM
...and the ROMAN version Hercules, and the legendary Homercles of Springfield. ...Wow, was THAT geeky. Hail Eris! (And never whistle while you're pissing.)
I wouldn't call Aladdin ction/ adventure. There really wasn't mu by ILoveEwksAndJJar	Jun 27th, 2003 04:05:13 PM
But Batman:Mask of the Phantasm was better than all of the live action Batman movies.
I thought Sinbad showed more range in "Good Burger" than he did by PORKY	Jun 27th, 2003 04:30:20 PM

Who's Bad? by Lance Rock	Jun 27th, 2003 04:37:34 PM
that line in the trailer really killed it for me. thankfully for dreamworks i'm not an 11-year-old.
Am I to assume, then, that Sinbad doesn't fight terrorists in ho by Chastain-86	Jun 27th, 2003 04:38:20 PM
Fuck it. I ain't going.
Well, it's true the ad campaign is AWFUL -- but if the movie is by Bregalad_	Jun 27th, 2003 04:43:04 PM
It should be able to rise and stand on its own merits. I will see it for sure and decide for myself. THANK YOU Harry for helping the potential audience understand the film better than the DreamWorks marketing team could have.
PLANT! Fighting Terrorists on a Hot Air Balloon! by pmarq	Jun 27th, 2003 04:44:54 PM
Okay that was really stupid, but I felt like it. Sue me. Let's make this hot air thing the new trend...
cartoons are for kids by Rome&BrianGarage	Jun 27th, 2003 04:51:50 PM
especially manga
Sinbad ( not Sindbad? Oh well. ) by Blue_Demon	Jun 27th, 2003 05:04:00 PM
"It's still miles behind Harryhausen's films, but hell...what'd ya expect? C'mon Harry, you just said the characters on Sinbad's boat were good. Harryhausens films were fun, but nobody cared about the characters. I mean, what would get you into the Paramount Theater? Kerwin Matthews? Or the Cyclops? Yeah. Two different types of movies my friend. In this one, you go for the animation across the board. In the Harryhausen movies you go for the few precious minutes the creatures are on screen ( except for "Clash of The Titans" which has Judith Bowker's bum as an added attraction...but methinks I sayeth too much, hehehe. ) Man...the other day I said I hated fish sticks so much that Mrs. Paul called to tell me that I should taste hers. When Charlie the Tuna got wind of that, he called to tell me that I should taste his product. Sara Lee called to tell me thank you, because she knows that nobody ( myself included ) doesn't like her.
Cool version of Sindbad by Blue_Demon	Jun 27th, 2003 05:14:28 PM
A really nice version of Sindbad was the graphic novel by Jan Strnaad and Richard Corben ( I have a copy in my library somewhere ) called "The Last Voyage of Sindbad." Great story. Sindbad has given up his worldly ways and become a Sufi and tells his tale to a merchant and we're off! This would have been a great movie, but then again, Richard Corben is such a good "director" that if feels like a movie already.
The scarriest thing in the world is if Sinbad dose another TV sh by mbaker	Jun 27th, 2003 05:21:13 PM
I just had to say that.
Brad Pitt and stop motion skeletons by PRIVATE_SANTIAGO	Jun 27th, 2003 06:07:26 PM
Wouldn't it be cool if during a fight scene Sinbad leaps up and is frozen so they do the "bullet time" trick before he kicks a bad guy in the face??!!! No. No it would not. Animation movies are supposed to be particularly timeless, so you and your children both get a kick out of it. Throwing in "cool" or "phat" or any modern phrasing just makes everything seem that more dated. Oh and , "I want you..to stab me.. as hard as you can."
The movie trailer is so annoying. by guava_jam	Jun 27th, 2003 07:08:22 PM
What bugged me so much about the trailer was that smarmy gimmick of showing the actors lending their voices to this cartoon. It's as if the suits had very little faith that the public would turn out for the story itself, so they decided to trot out footage of Brad Pitt, CZJ, etal, in the act of reading the script. It so reminded me of those irritating political ads where the politician goes about his business as if he doesn't know there's a camera eight inches from his face. Seriously, this is an effin' cartoon, who cares about the face behind the voice!
I don't care what anyone says... by 007-11	Jun 27th, 2003 09:06:22 PM
"Prince of Egypt" was fantastic.
Bravo Harry by NubtheSquirrel	Jun 27th, 2003 11:11:46 PM
I applaud you! My review was posted earlier today and everybody thought I was crazy for saying is was a good movie. I guess I'm not the only one who liked it, despite the trailers being so stupid, go see this movie! It truly deserves an audience!
could it be worse than TREASURE PLANET?? by mooncake	Jun 27th, 2003 11:49:01 PM

Tomorrow night, TCM plays all 3 Harryhausen Sinbads back to back by Trav McGee	Jun 28th, 2003 12:36:28 AM
Tune in, folks! Hell, I'm pissed I only found out tonight that it was a Harryhausen weekend. Got the tape rollin now, though. It's gonna be nice watching "Mysterious Island" over breakfast tomorrow morn...
Hunky Bruce Springsteen by Brimacombe	Jun 28th, 2003 01:19:57 AM
And no he doesn't need a haircut, I love the vest, and the soul patch can stay.
sexybeast=idiot by beamish13	Jun 28th, 2003 02:54:34 AM
the people who've been bombing abortion clinics in the states have almost all been CHRISTIANS. what about the Inquisition, you moron? America needs to get off of its high-horse and learn to respect other cultures (*cough-the Central America disaster during the 80's, the Middle East)
Viva France! Fuck America! by beamish13	Jun 28th, 2003 02:56:18 AM
Shove "freedom fries" (which are from Belgium, a country Bush can't locate on a map) up your silly, immature asses.
Re: Boo Hoo! Oh the poor Muslims! by gojira	Jun 28th, 2003 09:32:49 AM
Hell I'd just as soon vote for a potato as Bush in 2004. I'm sooooooooooo sick of this "if you dissnet against anything Bush your anti american" bullshit. Why don't you morons just split yourself off from the Republican party and call yourselves the Nazi party, 'cause your not foolin' anyone with your flag waving patriotic crap anyway.
Re: Boo Hoo! Oh the poor Muslims! by gojira	Jun 28th, 2003 09:33:57 AM
Hell I'd just as soon vote for a potato as Bush in 2004. I'm sooooooooooo sick of this "if you dissnet against anything Bush your anti american" bullshit. Why don't you morons just split yourself off from the Republican party and call yourselves the Nazi party, 'cause your not foolin' anyone with your flag waving patriotic crap anyway.
I dont get it by FearTheJuggalo6	Jun 28th, 2003 11:32:55 AM
I have been coming to this site for a while and it just seems to me that there isn't a movie that harry hates anymore. it seems to be that he loves everything. Did he lose his edge or is it just me.
How much? by DeadRapedDeer	Jun 28th, 2003 11:59:36 AM
How much did the studio pay you to write that review Harry, you fat bastard. I am so sick of your liberal carrying on about the bloody war. What has the good and just war in Iraq got to do with Sinbad. You eat too many ham snacks Mr Harry
Harry is right, the ad/marketing campaign was terrible by Spacesheik	Jun 28th, 2003 05:30:46 PM
Where SINBAD should be swashbuckling, mystical, adventurous, eerie and exotic and colorful, the trailers were terrible, placing too much emphasis on the female villain and unimaginatie, dark settings. I wanted to see SINDBAD jump, throw a punch, slash someone, steer the ship, fight a Ray Harryhausen monster (a la 7TH VOYAGE OF SINBAD) and I got some ROAD TO EL DORADO look-alike character with some female villain talking.
Can Harry write two sentences without dropping some douchebag ex by mrbrains	Jun 28th, 2003 06:34:38 PM
Harry, how is is relevant that a Disney executive called you about this movie? Whatever happened to "the play's the thing?" Douchebag.
Where is the Punch-Drunk Love DVD Talk Back!? by readyoufool	Jun 28th, 2003 11:33:09 PM
sorry it's off topic guys...but then, there's no pdl dvd talk back...see?
Brad Pitt is blah by GypsyTRobot	Jun 29th, 2003 12:01:18 AM
Why anyone thinks he's cute or interesting is beyond me. However, I am a weirdo, so perhaps my opinion doesn't count.
IT'S GOTTA BE BETTER THAN THE HULK! I MEAN, IT SERIOUSLY COULDN' by TheGinger Twit	Jun 29th, 2003 12:18:46 AM

godrefla... by Bad Guy	Jun 29th, 2003 12:18:08 PM
Harrison Ford's worst recent movie is "DEVIL'S OWN"??Hardly, try "SIX DAYS, SEVEN NIGHTS", "SABRINA", "HOLLYWOOD HOMICIDE"or "RANDOM HEARTS". And I don't care for most of Julia Roberts' movies anyway, but you could do worse than "THE MEXICAN". As far as movies that Brad Pitt has appeared in that I did enjoy: "THELMA & LOUISE", "KALIFORNIA", "TRUE ROMANCE" (He stole every scene he was in.), "INTERVIEW WITH THE VAMPIRE", "SEVEN", "FIGHT CLUB", "12 MONKEYS" and "OCEAN'S 11". "A RIVER RUNS THROUGH IT", "SLEEPERS" and "LEGENDS OF THE FALL" all had their moments. Oh and he did get an Oscar nomination for best supp. actor for "12 MONKEYS".
really? by drjones	Jun 29th, 2003 02:39:29 PM
so this is better than prince of egypt???
Dumbass. by tv`snick	Jun 29th, 2003 08:32:52 PM
"I brought against the film. It is the best action adventure animated film since ALADDIN and the third best action adventure American animated film after BATMAN: MASK OF THE PHANTASM and ALADDIN." So it's better than PRINCESS MONONOKE? Or PORCO ROSSO? Harry, you're a xenophobe.
harry, you can't be serious by FMJeff	Jun 29th, 2003 08:53:34 PM
It's a friggin cartoon movie for children? I can't believe you honestly expected a faithful interpretation of the character when Brad Pitt and Catherine Zeta Jones were the primary voice-over talent. Maybe you should skip movies like these in general and leave the fluff to the audience it was meant for...children who still wet thier pants and cry when Bambi dies. (Or do you still cry when Bambi dies?) By the way, is there one review that doesn't contain some childhood anecdote about how you grew up with the character, loved the character, had masturbatory sex with the character, and any film version of the character couldn't possiby live up to your childhood preconceptions of that character? We get it, you're a nerd of all trades...skip to review please...
sexybeast, no offense pal..but you're a moron. by exador	Jun 30th, 2003 12:48:21 AM
just read the review, and not once, not anywhere in it, did Harry in fact rip on america, or americans....all he pointed out was that this story is from the middle east, and that it's characters are infact arabic and muslim. he also pointed out that it's a shame we have to paint over these facts to make fantastic and beautiful stories palatable for racist bitches like yourself. To be muslim is not a crime. to be muslim does not mean you are a terrorist. no more than being a christian means you're willing to shoot doctors that perform abortions. honestly sexybeast, when you post nonsense like that, you show the whole of the talkback world what a complete and utter prejudiced nutcase you are...........so, why don't you just go back to hating and racist gibberish someplace else.... ______________________________ __________________ special thanks go to gojira and beamish13, for reminding me that there are still plenty of cool people hanging around the talkbacks....cheers guys...
Yet more movies that Harry "grew up" on. Did he ever do anything by trouserpress	Jun 30th, 2003 05:56:25 AM
Someone call Amnesty International!
I'm come here not to praise Muslim culture, nor to bury it, but. by WarDog	Jun 30th, 2003 08:58:00 AM
SYRACUSE???!!! Fuuuuuccccckkkk, what IS it with Whorywood? They do their best to avoid offendint the potential rabid (or at least pissy) Muslims, but when it comes to setting a story completely within their culture, they blow that off too and relocate it to the MEDITERRANEAN??? I assume that's the ocean in question, since SYRACUSE is on freakin' Sicily! Or are we to assume there is a city somewhere in the ancient Levant or the coast of the Indian Ocean that is also called Syracuse? Criminy. I really HATE, HATE, HATE this shit. God-damned Whorywood always has to fuck with science or history to appeal to a demographic. Who cares about reality when PROFIT is on the line and you're largely trying to sell your cray to iggerunt morons? ****** All very well and good that this turned out to be enjoyable for you, Harry, in spite of your extreme misgivings, so MAYBE I'll go see it after all, in spite of MINE. But I'm afraid I'll be going in with bad memories of Atlantis in my mind. Ugh. Now that I recalled that lump of celluloid sewage, I have to puke.
The Amazing Voyage of Azzam would be the ultimate Sinbad movie by Idontgiveadamn	Jun 30th, 2003 10:04:14 AM
You have the hero rescuing a princess from the harem of a 3 bodied giant straight out of mythology as Harryhausen might have done, followed by a chase through a city on flying carpets that ends in the clouds. A battle between fiery skeletal warriors and a war party of headless tribesmen. And a treasure that makes the finale of Raiders of the Lost Ark feeble by comparison. Character-wise, the protagonist is out to top Sinbad's reputation(he never appears in the story but makes his presence known). Clever book, but it would never be made into a movie for the reason harry cites--you cant have any positive portrayals of Muslim-Arab society in the current US climate. Fortunately the US is no longer the only game in town in terms of spfx, so a UK company or European company could do it. PLEASE make Azzam.
So you think Loki is sexy? Very interesting, Harry. by Nice Marmot	Jun 30th, 2003 10:07:16 AM

HERCULES is ROMAN, HERAKLES is GREEK by Drath	Jun 30th, 2003 10:52:30 AM
Not to be a bigger geek than usual, but it's an interesting twist to your point about accepting the true ethnicities of the characters when you use the Roman name of a Greek hero, Harry. You probably knew it already, and if so, "wink wink." ****************** Oy, I'm sick of people blasting Treasure Planet on Talkbacks. It was a good movie with unnecessary CG and a poorly timed release date. I loved it a lot though, and every criticism I've read of the movie is too full of shit to even argue with. People have just dismissed that movie off hand. Fucking disgrace of a way to treat a good animated movie like Treasure Planet. Even Lilo and Stitch is taking hits now. I think it's Disney just trying to validate it's move to all CG at this point. Pinheads. ************ Now, to get on topic, I'm very much encouraged by this review. If anyone was going to hate this thing, it was a major Sinbad movie fan like Harry. But if he was impressed enough to give it a nice review, then I will most likely enjoy it too. Although I'm really really sorry to know they fucked up the dialogue. Why the hell can't modern script writers handle otherworldly dialogue? Gore Vidal can't be the last one to pull this off without sounding stilted and dry. I though John "Gladiator" Logan would do a good job, so either he's a one-hit wonder(yeah, he DID do Star Trek: Nemesis) or this was corporate/middle management insisting on dumbing down the movie because of all those idiots complaining that Prince of Egypt took itself too seriously.
HARRY ATE MY SNACKS! by DeadRapedDeer	Jun 30th, 2003 10:46:11 PM
AND MY BOTTOM
Is Classic Animation DEAD or dying?? by BladetheOriginal	Jul 2nd, 2003 11:36:44 PM
With Spirited Away as an exception, comparing box-office between movies like Finding Nemo, Ice Age, Monsters Inc. & Shrek to movies like Spirit and Treasure Planet, it appears as if classic animation is getting its ass kicked by Pixar and the like consistently. Audiences seem to prefer movies like Shrek and seeing how well Treasure Planet did, I feel Sinbad will do just about the same regardless of the high profile voice talent.
Movie Star does not equal seiyuu by LoveDark	Jul 7th, 2003 12:37:30 PM
Seiyuu - Japanese for voice actor, usually in anime. I ran into this problem first with Princess Mononoke. The suits believe you have to have stars to sell films. Maybe that it is reality but so what, it sucks and I don't have to like it. Now, Matt Damon and Drew Barrymore did a passable job in "Titan A.E." and show a bit of seiyuu magic - the ability to lose your identity in a voice over for an animation and become the character. Daveigh Chase is a young Master with her great, great performances in "Lilo and Stitch" and "Spirited Away". And Cheryl Chase absolutely blows my mind as this grown woman becomes a 5 year old little girl in "My Neighbor Totoro". But no one, no one will ever touch the talent of the late, great Mel Blanc. Warner Bros. had to recruit an army of seiyuu to replace he after he left us. But in American, voice actor get no respect. It is a shame, it is really a separate talent than film acting and they deserve more. But most of all, we, the teeming millions, will have a better experience if we can convince the suits that we want great voice actors and not names that are easily sold. Notice, I have spared you any mention of truly Japanese seiyuu - I actually do want to be on topic. So, basically, my point is, would not Sinbad been a better film with great voice talent that you did not recognize as other than the characters of the film instead of the stars? I do think so.
We've been "Americanizing" classic foreign stories for a century by Malik23	Jul 15th, 2003 09:15:32 AM
Harry, are you REALLY surprised by an American version of a Middle Eastern hero IN A FREAKING CARTOON? I mean, this is an American cartoon aimed at American children. Did you expect popular culture to deviated from a formula that has worked for years? Have you been unconscious for the last for last few decades and missed the black "spiritual" singing in the cartoon, Hercules? Or a genie that sounds like Robin Williams in Aladdin (yeah, he just "disappeared" in that role, didn't he?). This is nothing new. It is only your liberal bias and the current political climate that has precipitated your skewed outlook. I'm glad to hear it didn't bias your review (though you still found it important enough to mention????)
Curse of the Highland 10 by LoveDark	Jul 15th, 2003 08:00:33 PM
I live closest to the Galaxy Highland 10 theater here in Austin. Since the Galaxy people have taken it over, it has been more improved, thank you. But they have started screwing the pooch. I tried to go see Sinbad there today. The picture was prefect but the sound REEKED. Everything came from the center and all of the soft, soft parts has this horrible distrotion. I summoned an usher and he has thin ears and no clue of what I am talking about. What the hell can you work in a movie theater and not understand the important of clean 5.1 sound? I wait FOREVER and nothing is done. He slips and tells that they are having a lot of speaker problems. I demand a refund and they make me wait for the manager. She tells that they are planning to remodel the theater. NOTE: this is a full price first run movie house. They all knew the sound was fucked. No one believed it is worth telling the customer ahead of time. That is cheap and deceptive. When I complain, first I get gamed and then I get a cool shoulder refund. Never an apology. Galaxy Highland 10 SUCKS!!!!!!!!! I hope to see this film at a professional theater before it disappears.
Hey Beamish, why don't you and the rest of Iraq Jr. aka france g by Malebolgia	Aug 3rd, 2003 11:57:35 AM
An American has taken your lousy Tour De france and wiped his ass with it. sniveling, smelly pompous ass!

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