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MORIARTY Finally Reviews HULK, Sits SPELLBOUND, And Rages About 28 DAYS LATER!!

28 Days.... Barely Zombie Horror. by BLADE	Jun 27th, 2003 09:44:58 AM
28 days turned into some weird hostage/army story. Marketing is making 28 days look like Resident Evil when it nowhere near a horror movie.
Hulk Shmulk! Mallory finally showed her mammories!!! by Blanket-Man	Jun 27th, 2003 09:46:10 AM
On "Out of Order" -- awesome sauna scene! Almost worth the 20 year wait! Thank you Ms. Bateman!
Mori your name was already on the screen by SeVen Higgins	Jun 27th, 2003 09:50:17 AM
I thought Mori helped write the script for Mortal Kombat 3. According to IMDB. And when is that coming out, I know its been bootlegged but I want to see Lambert as Raiden again.
hulk smash by purplemonkeydw	Jun 27th, 2003 09:50:52 AM
can't wait to see the hulk tonight, a full week late...do i belong here?
See 28 Days Later, we need more movies like this by Fearsme	Jun 27th, 2003 09:55:44 AM
For the love of God, avoid seeing Charlies Angels: Full Throttle and go see 28 Days Later. If we're not careful, they'll make another Charlies Angels. Plus, 28 Days later is excellent. As for the Hulk, the new ad campaign is brilliant, although it didnt work for A.I. which tried a similar stunt. You mentioned Batman Returns which was truly a great Trojan Horse of a movie, but the end result was that Batman Returns was good. Hulk was a mess. No one has still explained to me why it took nearly 5 and a half minutes of screen time to show Banner being transported in a helicopter across the desert. No one has explained why Lucas' death was so completely retarded. Nolte is bad in this movie, laughably bad. I'm still reeling from Avi Arad calling his performance "Oscar Caliber". Obviously Avi has been sniffing glue.
Hmm, that's about what I expected for Sinbad by Drath	Jun 27th, 2003 10:13:21 AM
It wasn't so great that you needed to rave about, nor so offensively bad you had to rant about it, it's just there, another animated adventure that's okay but great. Mediocrity only because we've seen it before. Normally that'd be fine except that the 2D animation industry needs a genuinely innovative hit.
HULK = Worst Movie of the Summer...so far... by President Evil	Jun 27th, 2003 10:25:14 AM
Yes, even worse than MATRIX RETARDED... But, CHARLIE'S WHORES: FULL DRY HEAVES comes out today, so there's still hope. Let the many morons of the world go see that cinematic flatulence. I'm off to see 28 DAYS LATER...
Ang Lee aspired to make "Hulk" more than simply an action blockb by waylayer	Jun 27th, 2003 10:26:19 AM
and he succeeded. And in doing so, created a film that will not be forgotten anytime soon, love it or hate it. friendswithbenefits.com
Exactly WHY is the Hulk the worse movie of the summer? by Z_Zzsazz	Jun 27th, 2003 10:37:34 AM
I like to talk shit as much as a webmaster at Scorched-Planet, but could you be a bit more specific than just saying, "Duh, I didn't like this movie, just because."
Yes, but one question... by Curiously Strong	Jun 27th, 2003 10:39:21 AM
...are the movies available for download? SNAP!
Right on, Moriarty!! by viola123	Jun 27th, 2003 10:47:03 AM
Thank you for the reviews. I loved "Hulk" too and I think those commercial spots are absolutely wonderful. I saw it on TV yesterday, and when it said, "It's the film everyone's arguing about" -- I just smiled. It was great, drawing attention to its criticism, and as you said, reveling in it. It's a beautiful film, and it really stays with you. That's the one thing that struck me perhaps the most is how much I thought about the film after seeing it. It has been heavy on my mind, certain scenes replaying, going over the dialogue again. I'm going to see it again this weekend for the second time, and from what I heard, the second time is even better? I can't imagine. :)
Hulk Smash by Darth Thoth	Jun 27th, 2003 10:50:29 AM
waylayer is correct in stating that Ang Lee aspired to make something different and succeeded on all levels. It dared to be serious, funny, outrageous, and cool all rolled into one. It was a stylish masterpiece. While I still hold some reservations about certain scenes feeling rushed, the movie was undoubtedly loads of fun and intriguing. Beautifully directed, great acting, good story, and superb work by ILM. All in all it's the quality I expected coming from Marvel and Ang Lee. And great review as always Mori. I can't wait to see 28 Days Later. Peace.
Hulk workprint fingerprints? by Frying Bologna?	Jun 27th, 2003 10:53:29 AM
Um, did I read right this morning that the guy who uploaded the Hulk workprint has been busted? The story didn't mention AICN by name, but it did mention a shitstorm occurring on an online movie site surrounding the downloading of the movie and the viewers complaining that Hulk looked fake. Sounds kinda familiar...
I think HULK was the best bad movie since POINT BREAK. by Vegas	Jun 27th, 2003 10:56:38 AM
I'm serious, it's so obvious that everyone involved was completely convinced that they were making "art," and they played it all with such a serious straight face, that seeing the future camp classic unfold before my eyes that they obviously had NO IDEA THEY WERE IN was the most entertaining thing since Keanu Reeves screamed to the heavens, "I AM AN F! B! I! AGENT!"
Not so much rages as raves really by Heleno	Jun 27th, 2003 11:03:38 AM
Which is good cause I was worried for a moment there. Can't wait to see the two of these babies that were not released months ago.
Hulk sucked, 28 days later sucked a little, spellbound-good by Rome&BrianGarage	Jun 27th, 2003 11:15:23 AM
hulk was boring and when it wasnt boring it was cheesy....what many people dont know is that hulk doesnt refer to the big green langoliers lookin thingie..the hulk is jennifer connellys nose...28 days later was a non-zombie zombie movie with a stupid "who cares about zombies...lets rape the two girls" ending...i swear...stupid movies are always so overhyped on this site its not even funny
Hulk too much for puny brains by Sunra	Jun 27th, 2003 11:22:57 AM
It seems that too many people out there (and you know who you are)are not enjoying the Hulk because they have to use their brains. You cocksuckers crack me up, Mori's correct in that you all want is things spelt out. Jesus you just moan and moan and moan, usually over your latest copy of chunky ass's whilst your Ma's cooking you dinner because you can't get a date on Friday night.
Hulk boring by devilfrog	Jun 27th, 2003 11:43:41 AM
I don't think the problem with the Hulk is that we had to use our brains. If any group likes to use their brains, it's the nerdy comic book geek that we all are. The problem with the Hulk is that Ang Lee forgot to make it fun. He has the "thinking" thing down in that we all had to think. But the best comic movies have walked the line successfully of making both a movie that is engaging to it's audience AND making it loads of fun at the same time. I think Ang's problem is that he took himself too damn seriously.
How About SPOILER ALERT Next Time?! by hipcheck13	Jun 27th, 2003 11:46:49 AM
Well, I was planning on seeing the Hulk Sunday afternoon - now I can look forward to "Hulk poodles" and Talbot getting waxed. Thanks LOADS, Mori. >:-(
Hulk Smarter Than Puny Audience. Rahr! by Serious Black	Jun 27th, 2003 11:49:43 AM
Excellent review, Mori. Yeah, the Hulk
You can't just excuse everything bad in a film by jules windex	Jun 27th, 2003 12:01:51 PM
Using that rationale, every film is good, no matter how much bad shit there is in it. Hulk was a failure
I enjoyed "The Beach" by 007-11	Jun 27th, 2003 12:06:46 PM
I wouldn't really say it was a failure, the furthest i'd go is to call it a less brutal "Fight Club". I've never seen a "Life Less Ordinary" all the way through, only parts of it. Like any rational person I have nothing but admiration for "Trainspotting". I'd say Danny Boyle has tripped, but never fallen. Oh, and Moriarty, that line about being in Avi's pocket, smooth very smooth.
Wait a minute... if the Hulk is taking pleasure out of jumping/f by Roguewriter	Jun 27th, 2003 12:21:49 PM
I just don't understand these kids today. Bring on 28 DAYS LATER, goddammit! I sooooooooooo badly need a dose of semi-zombie gore!!!!
The Hulking Disapointment. by orlandocfa	Jun 27th, 2003 12:35:03 PM
I figured any movie that would keep a youngstter sitting in a steaming pile of his own feces would be at worst extremely watchable. I walked away from the Hulk feeling nothing. I was neither happy or upset, just blah. I expected much more from someone who was able to create such a haunting and moving movie like crouching tiger. As my friend and I sat and ate lunch afterward and discussed the Hulk, huge plot holes suddenly started appearing. This movie cannot hold up to scrutiny. It was a rambling mess. *Semi SPoiler* Can anyone answer how someone who has been out of Jail one month is able to procure the type of equipment that Nolte's character had? How was he able to understand current technology? I'm pretty sure that since the Army locked him up for his experiments, they wouldn't keep him up to date on all the latest in Hulk building technology. When did Bruce Banner stop turning a shade of green when he got mad? Is that why Jennifer Connely broke up with him? He caught her eating his last power bar and he turned a shade of green, which freaked her out and she booked it? Was it the Nanobots that turned him into the Hulk or was it the radiation? If it was the radiation, why didn't the bomb in the beginning turn him into a baby hulk? What does he have to be so angry about? This is just the tip of the Iceberg on these type of question. Too many holes, lame story and no where near enough Hulk.
Poor delusional Fallboy Boy... by Z_Zzsazz	Jun 27th, 2003 12:43:31 PM
...anybody who disagrees with him and the rest of his bitter little cronies he believes is employed by this site. Either stop listening to FTF, or up your meds a few milligrams already. And yes, we know you loved the Hulk movie, you described in the past its CGI was like a sexual act you've heard about but you've never actually performed due to your inability to attract a female partner. With your ability to predict that "The Punisher" and the Superman films will suck without having actually seen them, it's no wonder your head is firmly lodged up a boring, cowardly webmaster's ass.
critics love spellbound by Rome&BrianGarage	Jun 27th, 2003 12:44:31 PM
Mark S. Allen, UPN Network, raves "Forget those Angels, SpellBound's sexy spelling champions make this the must-see tits and ass movie of the summer!"
EBERT gave the Hulk Thumbs up. You sons of Bitches Dont know wha by Rcamacho2278	Jun 27th, 2003 12:55:06 PM

Hulk was not a smart movie by Fearsme	Jun 27th, 2003 12:57:46 PM

007-11 by EduinBrutus	Jun 27th, 2003 01:02:17 PM
Umm, can't comapre the "success" of The Beach to Fight Club. The Beach really was a disaster, everywhere. Fight Club was a huge box office smash in every single market outside North America. It made its distributors plenty. Regards, Eduin
You won't like me when I'm Ang Lee by Wankeroo	Jun 27th, 2003 01:05:11 PM
The HULK: The best super-hero/comic book movie I have ever seen. Schamus has improved upon the origin story of the Hulk and Ang Lee has made a visually stunning movie. Extremely well paced and shot. I was never confused when it came to what, where, when and who. Nolte and Bana are great. I can't wait for the sequel. A movie for nerds, geeks, scholars, and the squeamish but, not for morons. Morons will be amazed by the effects but, will be left wondering about the science and philosophy behind the eye candy. They will probably be dumbfounded and angered to the point where they will lash out at this movie. Starving for the standard dumbed-down superhero eye candy they will complain that this movie is too far-fetched.
Lizard man? by Feudal Fetus	Jun 27th, 2003 01:10:41 PM
Can anyone explain why Nick Nolte's hand has scales and horns all over it when he first turns into the absorbing man? Just wondering.
That?s one of the best reviews that I?ve read by Banky the Hack	Jun 27th, 2003 01:11:01 PM
What the hell?s up with all the question marks?
I was disappointed in the Hulk... by Caramuru	Jun 27th, 2003 01:23:44 PM
I've heard many people saying they liked it, and it's not that I can't see why. I think Ang Lee did a great job in the sense that the movie looks good. I like the frames, the colors, the textures, the pacing... But to me the human side of the movie is mishandled badly. It is in part due to a terrible script, which is in fact very shallow and not too brainy at all. I
28 Days Later could have used some terrorists in hot air ballons by Grando	Jun 27th, 2003 01:24:10 PM
Probably would have been better then the second half of the movie. So much promise.......
"...what made him decide that it was time for the hockey mask an by Trav McGee	Jun 27th, 2003 01:24:35 PM
It's ALWAYS time to break out the hockey mask and bondage gear. I guess it all depends on how liberal your office dress code is, really.
Re: Complaints of Hulk by Serious Black	Jun 27th, 2003 01:35:25 PM
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HULK SUCK! by Lou Stools	Jun 27th, 2003 01:38:15 PM
Huge let down and way off the mark. Read the review in the Film Vomitorium section of nopointnecessary.com for a concise view on this green POS.
THE INFLATABLE HULK by Snookeroo	Jun 27th, 2003 01:55:55 PM
Seriously, did they just rent a swimming pool toy for the Big Green parts? Quite possibly the most screwed up movie this year. And the "daddy doesn't love me blues" storyline...please. During the "hulk poodle" scenes, Jennifer Connelly looks like she's checking out the price of salmon at the local A&P -- no fear, excitement, pissed off, no nothing. Just stares. Much like the theater audience. Still, as a bonified comic geek, I loved it when the Hulk FINALLY does his Hulk-rage gig in the desert. Ten or fifteen minutes of total bliss. Not worth enduring the interminably long rest of the snail's-pace flick, though.
So typically American by HailDaHypnoToad	Jun 27th, 2003 02:02:50 PM
I am so SICK of all the whining about how HULK didn't do this or didn't do that. All of you HULK Haters are just mentally deficient MTV'ers, with the attention span of a small soap dish. You're all obviously products of the American Educational System. No concept of originality. You just want to be spoon-fed your typical Hollywood gruel and go home to your mom's basement smelling like popcorn, goobers and stale nachos. Look, here we have a OSCAR WINNING DIRECTOR who has been given the money, resources and lattitude to make this movie and all you can complain about is how slow it moved? Take a moment and realize that STORY is what makes a great movie. EMOTIONAL envolvement is what makes you give a shit. And HULK had all of that in spades. All YOU wanted to see was destruction and mayhem, and guess what? You even got that, WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE GREATER STORY. Nolte was PERFECT, just the right amount of mania that you would expect from a MAD SCIENTIST. Bana acted with his whole body and spirit. Sam Elliott NAILED Thunderbolt Ross (the kirby version) and the CG Hulk breathed. (Think about it) The rumble in the Desert was CLASSIC HULK. You say,"IT moved too slow". NO, it told a story. "Hulk looked fake" (get a degree in advanced mathematics and computer programming and make a better one). WHine, this. BITCH, that. You make me FUCKIN SICK. And by the way, I LOVED THIS MOVIE. WHy, you may ask? Because it challenged my conceptions. Because ANG LEE bent his tremendous talent to this enterprise and created HIS OWN vision of the legend. And I admire that. Because it TOLD ME A STORY, because it showed us how PEOPLE relate to one another. Because FINALLY after 40 years I GET TO SEE THE HULK. If you like, you can go back to enjoying light weight drivel like "Daredevil (OOH, LOOK, Pretty MOVIE STARS!!!) or decend back into the depths of Dolph Lundgren's "Punisher". And just for once try to make fire with sticks instead of a lighter. Instant gratification isn't all its cracked up to be. ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD!!!
Give me a break...... by devilfrog	Jun 27th, 2003 02:26:05 PM
Just because someone doesn't like Ang Lee's handling of the Hulk, doesn't mean that they "didn't get it." That's the lamest reasoning I've ever heard. It doesn't mean that they have the attention span of Fred Durst in a public library. Ang Lee's handling of the Hulk was very condascending. He thought that the material he had wasn't cool enough in and of itself, that he felt the need to go in and try to make this "arty" film that failed to be both arty or deep.
the hulk flying was totally crouching hulky by imageburn13	Jun 27th, 2003 02:28:31 PM
i liked this flick, really, mori summed up all the fuckeddd up shit really well. But I couldn't get past the fact that it jibed with Akira in more than one place (ie. elevator going down, the whole ending) i felt that Ang lee just watched Akira quite a few times and it made a big impression on him...
Yeah, what Carumaru said. by Ray Garraty #47	Jun 27th, 2003 02:29:51 PM
But seriously...very well presented thoughts. I agree with a lot of what you said re: father/son having the same career, organic web shooters, et al...it calls to mind another question that is parallel to your argument but admittedly not directly related to it; does anyone else besides me think that it's odd that the majority of superheroes are either scientists or single?
The ending of Hulk sucked so bad it just killed the movie for me by Tarl_Cabot	Jun 27th, 2003 02:42:36 PM
I loved the film until Nolte became Mr. Absorbing man. What a waste.
there is no such thing as a "SORRID love child" by Kenshiro_Kane	Jun 27th, 2003 03:24:19 PM
... as the word "sorrid" does not exist in the English language. (see http://www.onelook.com/?w=sorr id&ls=a ) Word.
You forgot to tell us how stupid and ungrateful we are. by onefettinthehand	Jun 27th, 2003 03:31:09 PM
Mori, can you just stop it please? I'm so sick of all the name dropping, the "I know so many people in the industry", the "I'm writting a film, did you know that?". I'm so sick of hearing about the whole week before you actually saw the film. Why would I give a flying fuck when you saw it? What possible difference could it make to me who you saw there? How does that, IN ANY WAY, enhance this review? And I really have to wonder how you had seen the opening 10 minutes of 28 Days so many times. IT COULDN'T POSSIBLY BE THAT YOU DOWNLOADED IT COULD IT????? And thanks for filling us in that you can afford to buy 13 tickets for your friends. And then a second mention of the screenplay you've been writing for like EVER! The rub of it all is, that you're a DAMN fine writer! All your reviews, whether I agree with them or not, are all well written. So it's just a big stupid waste that you are suffering from Harry-itus.
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"Doc Bruce Banner, belted by gamma rays... by Blabbermouse	Jun 27th, 2003 03:35:08 PM
...turns into the Hulk, ain't he un-glamour-ays?" (world's best theme song rhyme) =============== Hey, here's my 2 1/2 cents worth on the movie: Not so hot, but still eminently sit-throughable for the good parts ============= Was calling his father 'David' - & showing him experimenting on himself - a deliberate nod to the TV series? ================== Taking the captured Hulk into the underground base was not only a nod to Akira (the diagonal elevator platform) - but also to a 2-parter TV episode with the same plot ================ the army handing the Hulk over to a politically-connected private company isn't that far-off from what's going on these days - I've read a few articles about private companies that provide armies or military-style support to countries around the world (often under the aegis of the US gov't) ============= CGI Hulk looked great, very expressive - & they didn't forget the purple pants! ================== I think the pseudo comic book panels effect was an interesting idea - that shoulda been ditched way early on in the production. Other than a few places where it wasn't overly intrusive, it seemed very show-offy & rubbing our noses in the fact that we were watching A COMIC BOOK-BASED CHARACTER. These movies are supposed to take these characters OUT of the comics & make us believe they're really happening in a movie version of the 'real' world - not a movie version of a comic book world. (Hey Ang, why don't you just drop the other shoe & put some TV-Batman-style "POW!"s and "SPLAT!"s onscreen?) ========== On the other hand, I noticed a lot of places where Ang cut from a close-up of someone to a slightly different-angled CU of the same character. It set up a jumpy, nervous mood that really worked well for me. =============== Wish they had ditched Nolte's character altogether: the loony acting & the 'if you don't like motivation wait 5 minutes & I'll have a different one' plotting was a major drag on the film. (I would've been very happy if they ended the film on that SanFran hill w/Hulk reverting to Banner because of Betty's presence.) ================ WHY oh WHY did they let Nolte into that hangar, & then let him rage & rail at his son & goad him into hulking out again? That made NO SENSE! They shoulda dragged him out of hangar the second he started going looney. ========= INTERESTING QUESTION NO ONE SEEMS TO HAVE PICKED UP ON YET: DID NOLTE (easier than saying 'Banner's dad') SABOTAGE THE GAMMA ZAPPERS IN BANNER'S LAB??? The film didn't show or hint this (at least not that I noticed), but as 'Janitor Who Is Followed by Dogs' he did have free run of the lab & would've been able to sneak in & short out a few wires at night. Plus it would've fit right in with what they already showed of him experimenting on his son. (Maybe Nolte knew/suspected what a dose of big G would have on BB.) ================ Meanwhile, when are they gonna get around to my favorite Marvel hero, the Master of the Mystic Arts, good ol' Stephen (Doctor) Strange himself?
too smart for it's own good? by Crash11578	Jun 27th, 2003 03:43:04 PM
If Ang Lee wanted to make a movie about the Duality of Man, he should have talked to John Woo to get some good ideas. Despite some fancy editing and a few snazzy action scenese, the real core of the movie...the tragedy of what happens to this man...is largely served cold. I felt nothing for either Banner, and I think the direction to play young Banner as relatively well adjusted (no scenes to the contrary are shown) before the Gamma accident is a huge mistake. We needed to see that he was lonely and repressed, in desperate need of exploding in anger to make the emotional payoff of the transformation important. The "get to know him" scenes with the biker helmet were comedic and pointless, and the reason why he and Ms Ross broke up is given the standard "he wouldn't open up" treatment. It would have been much better if they had never dated...his emotional detachment and longing would have made his need to become the Hulk much greater. Bash me for not being "smart" enough to see the brilliance in Lee's film, but I only wanted to feel something...and I felt absolutely nothing
RE: Ebert gave it a "thumbs up"... by user id indeed!	Jun 27th, 2003 03:55:29 PM
...Ahhh, yes, the fountain of credibility that he is. Just about anyone could agree that "The Usual Suspects" is one of the greatest, most influential films of the last decade, right? Go see how many stars Ebert gave "The Usual Suspects". I DARE you. I triple-dog-hundred-dollar-dare you.
HULK BARF! by Lou Stools	Jun 27th, 2003 03:56:52 PM
There's another fat, geeky bastard in town, cept this one tells it like it is, even if he is just ripping on Harry: "The comic Hulk is a ferocious, dynamic, rampaging force...in contrast, The Hulk the movie is an often slow, plodding, overlong, heavy-handed psychological drama with a few moments of inspired chaos interspersed with long stretches of redundant exposition..." "At the very least, The Hulk required more editing to tighten up the narrative flow and bring it down to two hours...at most it needed to jettison the whole David Banner sub plot in the writing process and make Bruce Banner more of a proactive, fully-realized character rather than a reactive, whiny victim of his father. At this rate, we should expect to see She-Hulk in 2005, staring Julia Roberts who Hulks out on her abusive husband." http://www.nopointnecessary.co m/creosote.html
Sometimes I wonder if most talkbackers just love to hate...Hulk by Lost Skeleton	Jun 27th, 2003 03:59:11 PM
Hulk was pretty good. So was Reloaded and X2. I can't believe the level of hate from my fellow talkbackers. I am just happy that the movie world is now making "cool" shit for us to watch. After thinking about the Hulk and why he does not de-hulk when flying. I think what Mr. Lee was trying to convey is that Bruce Banner was suppressing his emotions his whole life- more evident with the denial over what happened with his parents. Anger, as an emotion, is very powerful. More powerful than love. I think Bruce's anger was the catalyst that allowed Bruce's id (the Hulk) to gain some sought of freedom (Bruce even conveys this sense of freedom to Betty in the mountain home). Hulk does not "de-hulk" when he is not angry. The anger is just the peak of emotion that allows the id (Hulk) to escape. It is not various emotions that control the hulk (ie- the lack of anger) it is Bruce's willingness to control his freedom, to control his emotions that wheel the Hulk in (de-hulk him). In the movie, we see Bruce de-hulk twice. (1) after the hulk dog fight when the Hulk is so physically and emotionally spent that he lacks the energy to maintain himself and so Bruce (the ego) is allowed to take control and de-hulk him and (2) when Hulk sees Betty- it is the emotion of love that is able to allow Banner to control (not become calmer or un-angry) his emotion and to take control away from the id (Hulk) and de-hulk himself. Think about it- one of the few emotions humans have that are often times passionate and uncontrollable is anger. This uncontrollable emotion is the trigger for the Hulk, but not what sustains him. Bruce is only able to control the Hulk if he controls all of his emotions- which he has done for years up until his father returns.
28 Days Later is an absolute waste of moeny by Lance Turk	Jun 27th, 2003 04:04:20 PM
Just because artsy-fartsy danny boyle made the movie, suddenly it's an "important" zombie flick. You could have had the SAME EXACT movie made by some B-list hollywood director that nobody has heard of, and every critic would have been calling this movie a 1-star piece of shit. I've seen this same zombie movie done 1000 times before, and I've seen it done 1000 times better I might add.
2 things: 1) HypnoToad, insulting the intelligence of 270 millio by TV CASUALTY	Jun 27th, 2003 04:04:52 PM
When, in Bruce's dream, the Hulk smashes through the mirror and growls "puny human". That... fucking... rocked. Seriously though Toad Boy, I live in the U.S., and I loved Hulk. Is there NO ONE in your country that hated it? Don't be such a moron.
Your reviews... by Thomas_A_Anderso	Jun 27th, 2003 04:15:20 PM
Seriously Mori, your reviews are [CRITICISM REMOVED... SERIOUSLY YOU'LL THANK ME LATER - "M"]. And your opinions [CRITICISM REMOVED AGAIN]. And your hypocritical [ENDING CRITICISM REMOVED].
Not Hulked up enough for me. by flint1976	Jun 27th, 2003 04:17:00 PM
I too walked away from watching the Hulk feeling blah about the movie. All the scenes with the Hulk raising hell and destroying stuff were excellent but there was just too much boring dialogue between the characters to keep the rest of the film interesting. I didn't understand the Generals hate and contempt for David Banner and I feel that they didn't build up Bruce Banners character enough for the audience to care for the guy when he's going through all the physical and emotional pain.
28 MOFO'in DAYS LATER by maceodkat	Jun 27th, 2003 04:27:25 PM
I got to see this flick a couple of months back, and the images are still stuck with me. At last a proper spin and something new in the zombie genre. Kudos to my main man for directing a fine piece of film. The Beach & Trainspotting where good, but the errie pacing of this films rattles the chilliest of bones. Hopefully this great film isn't lost in the shuffle of the larger summer blockbusters or dismissed as the same piece of steaming crap that 1000 corpses was. BTW, Hulk sucks, still sucks, will always suck untill they get a someone behind the lens that does something other than talky girl movies. mace out
Trav McGee by Blue_Demon	Jun 27th, 2003 04:38:45 PM
The world probably ended on casual friday, in the Road Warrior universe. Lord knows, if it ended today, I would spend my post-apocalyptic days running around in butt-less chaps and a cowboy hat...but then, I work in an insurance company.
ya need more than just a zombie by Sid Kibbitz	Jun 27th, 2003 04:55:33 PM
All zombie movies fall back on splat and gore, and just forget all about the story, which is equaly (or should be) freaky. Just the idea of being trapped and out numberd is always scary. The only story I
THE HULK is not a great movie... it's a pretentious mess. by Nosferatu Jones	Jun 27th, 2003 04:58:49 PM
Ang Lee and James Schamus didn't seem to trust the source material and figured they'd make their little $150 million art flick, so they'd save face in front of their more serious-minded artiste friends. Sorry, it doesn't cut it. I don't mind taking the material "seriously," but where the bloody FUCK was the fun in watching THE HULK? Aside from Talbot's death, of course? I had to fight off yelling or throwing things at the screen during Bana and Nolte's "stage play." Just embarrassing. You nerds think you're so smart because you claim you like this "deep HULK," but I see right through you. You're embarrassed to admit you like the camp/kitsch factor of "The Hulk" comics, so you build yourselves up as some sort of "intellectuals" because you think you're going against the grain and praising Ang Lee's beautiful-LOOKING mess of a film. But just 'cause it visually looks good doesn't mean it cuts it as a comic-book drama. The film got it all wrong. The TV pilot of the Lou Ferrigno series was 100 times better, and showed the proper way to conceive of a more realistic, dramatic version of the Hulk character. Ang Lee's version just proves that "serious" filmmakers should stay far away from comic book movies. What's next, Woody Allen's DR. STRANGE, a la Bergman? At least the makers of the BLADE films knew they were making trash.
Hulk isnt worth it. Save your money. by AlwaysThere	Jun 27th, 2003 05:12:20 PM
Dont watch it in theaters, and dont do illegal crap like downloading it.
Moriarty is a fucking liar by expose_you	Jun 27th, 2003 05:24:39 PM
You WERE invited to an advance screening, you lying prick. Or, rather, that fat fuck was invited to a private screening for him and he invited something like 20 of his fat loser friends. I doubt he left you out considering you all love to suck each other so much. Waaaaaaa, poor Moriarity. Waaaaaaaaaaa. You stupid fuck
by Wingnut1A	Jun 27th, 2003 05:26:17 PM
Isn't 28 Days Later a remake of The Omega Man (1971) starring Charlton Heston? And, tickets at the Arclite Theatre cost $14 a piece! That means 12 tickets would cost $168! Man! thats an expensive night! =)
28 Days Later 3rd act, ((((((possible spoilers)))))) by gopherkhan	Jun 27th, 2003 05:26:40 PM
I don't think the last part with the soldiers was a letdown at all. They make this tough journey to reach the soldiers in hopes of finding a cure, only to find out the soldiers are much worse than the infected. The infected will make you lose consciousness within 30 seconds. What the soldiers could do to the women would affect them for their whole lives. Jim trusts these guys only to find out they're going to gangrape the two girls he's been travelling with. That's enough to make any guy go deathwish on their asses. The soldiers have free will, unlink the infected, and that's what makes them so creepy. They know what they are doing is wrong but they really don't care. Movie fucking rocked. I'm gonna go see it again this weekend. By the way: Anyone else get shirts at the press screening? I only got bandaids, stickers, and buttons.
ROTK teaser poster is out and no1's said anything.... by metsrulein2k	Jun 27th, 2003 05:39:43 PM
Aragorn looks so fucking bad ass in this poster, its over at TORn and LOTR.net go check it out
The Hulk by Playhouse	Jun 27th, 2003 05:48:08 PM
I liked The Hulk. Which was tough to get into at first. If there is one main criticism I have of all of the Marvel movies of late, it's that their opening credits sequences absolutely suck. They are atrocious and usually boring. Even black screens with just title cards on them would be more exciting or effective than the credit sequences we've seen from these movies. I really noticed this during The Hulk. As much as I love to be presented with information that helps move the story along, the opening sequence was too busy and muddled and really had me uneasy for a good portion of the first part of the movie. What really sold me on The Hulk was the Hulk himself. People talk about the differing shades of emotion that Banner goes through in his Hulk form and how they don't understand why he didn't revert back to human form when he wasn't angry. The Hulk wasn't always about angry. It was about feelings - any and all feelings - that couldn't be expressed in a proper way. If you go back to the first issues, it wasn't even anger that really triggered his change. He was like a werewolf, changing into the Hulk at night when the sun went down. They then modified it to be in times of emotional distress. Yes, anger is the most violent and demonstrative of these emotions, but any number of things could cause the transformation. The '70s tv show perpetuated the belief that the Hulk was simply born of angry moments and even the movie sets up some of that with the whole "You won't like me when I'm angry" bit. Even in the comics, though, the Hulk would go through long periods of being the Hulk and experience a wide range of emotions. At times, they even had it so that the Hulk kept the intelligence of Banner and could communicate normally. What the movie captured is that there are always layers to something, and Banner staying the Hulk even when he wasn't angry was evidence of that. Well done in that regard. What really did it for me, though, were the moments when the Hulk was jumping and they went to shots over land. You got the feeling that you were up there flying with him. And that defined the comic book experience and the movie for me. I also loved how, for the most part, during the last few major sequences, Danny Elfman didn't really employ much of a score. They kind of let the action speak for itself on screen. It gave the scenes an odd weight to be in silence like that. Overall, I liked The Hulk. Mush more than I thought I would and much more than the first part of the movie showed me I would.
Surprising..... by TheAllSeeingEye	Jun 27th, 2003 06:22:17 PM
..How 28 Days Later has been recieved in the US. It was panned by critics here in the UK and i think i would have to agree with them, the film is awful.
llac2 by BLADE	Jun 27th, 2003 07:32:59 PM
This movie is being made out to be a Zombie Horror flick. How many times have you heard: "Danny Boyle Re-Invents Zombie Horror..and it scary as hell." Having seen the movie I know exactly what it is about....not zombies. I dont need some upset nerd fresh off a fat dick to tell me about the movie.
Didn't even read the other reviews after you praised HULK> by slimetime	Jun 27th, 2003 07:37:43 PM
Why bother?
Yeah, because all lonely soliders will, invariably, end up rapin by Ribbons	Jun 27th, 2003 09:36:38 PM
I know the army and religion are growing increasingly more reviled among 'film scholar' circles, but give me a fucking break. We NEED more films like '28 Days Later?!' Yeah, we NEED more self-important "experimental" directors that contribute to the disparity of moviegoing audiences in the first place. We need another '28 Days Later' like we need a bad rash. Sure, there are a lot of things to admire about the film, but c'mon. I know religion and the army are two things 'film scholars' love to hate, but enough already. I actually giggled like a schoolgirl when I saw the 'Hulk's' new ad campaign, but I see it more as damage control than ballsy marketing. That 62 mil opening weekend obviously bothers Universal much more than they'll admit to.
Please don't defend The Hulk by saying that it is over our heads by wasp	Jun 27th, 2003 10:06:55 PM
Not to sound arrogant or anything, but my favorite films are dramas like The 400 Blows or Raging Bull or Wild Strawberries. Those are films that know what's what when it comes to character development and human emotion. I also enjoy more populist entertainment like The Wrath of Khan or Lord of the Rings or Raiders of the Lost Ark. The Hulk is not a good comic book action movie. It's not a good drama. It's not a good anything. It has about 15 minutes of Hulk smashing that sure is cool, but feels like it was pretty much thrown in there to appease the fanboys. The rest of the film is a MESS. The dialogue was awful... "My Bruce." The scenes unimaginative, cliched, and stiff. Father and daughter meet for the first time in years in a restaurant to talk, daughter upset with father because he wants to talk business, more uninventive melodrama ensues. And the editing was ATROCIOUS. I'm sorry, but I don't need two simultaneous angles of a switch being flipped or an Austin Powers freeze frame of the villain getting his comeuppance. The ridiculous wipes and distracting transitions served no purpose other than as decoys from the utter boredom and lifelessness that sits like a cold lump in the throat of Eric Bana's cardboard Bruce Banner and Connelly's phoned in Betty. Hell, the film randomly breaks the 180 rule as if to say that it just doesn't give a fuck about putting together competent cinema montage. I piss contempt on this green piece of trash.
motherfuckers- IT'S OOOOOOONNN!!! by Devil'sOwn	Jun 27th, 2003 10:07:38 PM
Good review, Moriarty. As an old-school Marvel fan, the Hulk was as close an adaption to an actual comic book as I have ever seen. Yeah, the story takes it's time to unfold, but all in all, it haunts me. Yes, I would go so far as to say it was every bit as beautiful as I would expect an Ang Lee film to be. It's tragic, which is the essential nature of the character. Sure, it's deliriously over the top sometimes; but anyone who knows a damn thing about this genre knows these are tales of the human condition writ LARGE. Nothing too "pretentious" about that. And that poodle? Shit! Scariest puffball ever seen. Nolte was a twisty, turny spiral of insanity. If you didn't like the (cg) Hulk, fine. Go back to your profound debates about who would win in a no-holds-barred tag-team steel cage match: JarJar & Yoda, or Gollum & Dobby the house elf? You urbane studmuffins. SHO NUFF!
Nice HULK review, Moriarty! And about time! I was thinking you g by Antoninus	Jun 27th, 2003 10:10:16 PM
However, it woulda been more respectful of you to not lump HULK with that wannabe zombie flick 28 DAYS and the other one. A commentary on Elfman's excellent HULK score woulda been nice, too. Oh well. You can't have everything, right HULK-Haters? And to all HULK-Supporters and HULK-Haters alike, I implore you, see HULK again this weekend! Then see it again and again! Otherwise, we may never get a 2nd shot(sequel) at the glorious Marvel-ous HULK! Word.
Lisa Scharzbaum's HULK review @ Entertainment Weekly... by Nosferatu Jones	Jun 27th, 2003 10:43:16 PM
...hits the nail PERFECTLY on the head about everything that's WRONG with THE HULK. She gave it a C-. I'd have to agree. I don't normally care for her reviews, but she's right on the money with this one.
Now look what people are complaing about by Lavaman	Jun 27th, 2003 11:22:49 PM
It's interesting, all talkbackers did was talk about how "Fake" the CGI Hulk looked before the movie was released. Now that the Hulk is complete and released to Theaters they change the subject and only talk about "Boring dialogue". Anybody who sees the finished CGI Hulk can't deny, even though they may try, that ILM suceeded in creating the first Photorealistic human(green but human nonetheless).
Great reviews, Mori by Dog Of Mystery	Jun 27th, 2003 11:30:13 PM
I might have some minor issues with HULK, but you hit the nail on the head every single time with these three reviews. THANKS!
Rebuttal to a few of the charges made by Hulk-Haters... by Antoninus	Jun 27th, 2003 11:34:05 PM
1) WHY DOESN"T HULK DE-HULK WHEN IT APPEARS HE'S NO LONGER ANGRY? I think the Hulk isn't just a response to emotional stress or repressed memories, but also a defensive mechanism. It seems when Hulk realizes there is no more danger, then he reverts back to Banner. 2) WHY ISN'T BRUCE BANNER MORE OF A REPRESSED AND ANGRY YOUNG MAN FROM THE START? THEN HE'D HAVE A REASON TO BECOME HULK! Remember, Bruce Banner has no idea his life is completely f---ed up. He repressed his childhood trauma and doesn't realize he's a monster-in-waiting. Until now, he thinks he's as normal as the next guy, and therefore, acts that way. But this normalcy is a facade, an illusion. And Bruce, of course, cannot see through this illusion. And I think Ang Lee plays it that way. The only hint we get that something may be amiss is that he's slightly emotionally distant, which messes up his intimate relationships, but that's it. It's when things start coming to the surface, beginning with the re-appearance of David Banner, that Bruce realizes his so-called "normal" life is not normal at all. 3) WHY IS THE HULK MOVIE SO LONG? IT NEEDS TO BE TIGHTENED UP! TOO MANY DIALOGUE SCENES! First, this film is not just about Bruce Banner and the Hulk. It's about Betty, and General Ross, and David Banner, and the Mother we don't get to know. (With the exception of the parents, that's how Stan Lee wrote the comic book) Extra time is allotted to these characters because they are a big part of the whole "Hulk" story. As for all the "talking", heck, isn't that what "intellectuals" and "know-it-alls" do? Talk and theorize about all their problems? Every character in this film, with the exception of General Ross and Hulk, are "intellectuals". For them, the world is conceptual. Heck, most people are this way. Of course, all Bruce and Betty's talking can only hint at the truth, and can't prepare them for the awesome reality they are about to face. And David Banner, isn't he the biggest intellectual in this film. So much so that he's gone loony! He talks of power and longevity, but in the end, he cannot handle the "reality" of it. In addition, much of the writing is important to the overall structure of the film, as many issues brought up come into play later in the film. 4) WHAT IS UP WITH THAT SENSELESS STUPID ENDING?!? THE FILMMAKERS SHOULD HAVE ENDED IT IN SAN FRANCISCO AWREADY!!! The ending is not so stupid and senseless. In fact, it's necessary and relevant to the entire film up to this point. FIRST of all, HULK was, among other things, a summer action film, and therefore needed a fireworks-type ending. That ending was it. It woudn't have done to let it end peacefully in downtown San Francisco. SECOND, we needed to have the major character of David Banner resolved. He is the loose cannon of the film, the catalyst. And as Chekhov said, "If you show a gun in the play, you must fire it!" From the opening credits, David Banner seeks knowledge and power over the self. "To go beyond the boundaries of our human limitations" or something, he says to Betty. In fact, Banner could be symbolic of all human scientic endeavour. He is indeed, us. And this quest must be resoved. It is the gun waiting to be fired. The cosmic cataclysmic ending of HULK is the result of that quest, the gun fired. In the end, David Banner/we have all the power and knowledge in the universe, and cannot handle it. It is a final finite culmination that began when Adam ate the apple, and thus had knowledge of good and evil. It is a final horrifying result of mankind's unending quest to be better than what God made them. THIRD, the ending is a testament to how much power we are dealing with in the Hulk. He is a creature born of atomic and genetic forces gone horribly wrong. Atomics and genetics, two of the most powerful forces in the known universe, all contained within one 15 ft. green-skinned behemoth. And David Banner realizes that when he attempts to absorb Hulk's power. Even he cannot handle it. AND FOURTH, the ending is a final reconciliation between father and son. This was meant to happen, and the entire film was setting up for this conclusion. In the end, David and Bruce become intimate in a way unlike any has seen. David knows what it is to be the living monstrosity his son has become. And in the end, just after David gives back the "power" to Bruce, he saves his only son by absorbing the force of a nuclear bomb. This is represented by the final montage of David Banner kissing the forehead of little Bruce, a loving father, at the very end. One of the most awewome, touching, artistic endings I've ever seen in a "summer action blockbuster." Whew! Okay, that's it! Sorry to get so philosophical on everyone who had the patience to read, but I really really LOVE this film! For me, as far as comic book adaptations go, it is up there with both of Tim Burton's/Sam Hamm's BATMAN films, and Terry Zwygoff's/Daniel Clowe's GHOST WORLD. Please add Ang Lee's/James Schamus's HULK to the glorious triumvirate. Films that sought to go beyond the boundaries of mere summer popcorn flick, and actually become an artistic achievement. Go Ang Lee! 'Nuff said.
The Hulk is Boring. BORING!! It's sucks. It's an embarrasing mes by TheGinger Twit	Jun 28th, 2003 12:01:15 AM
The hulk was Fucked!! Fuck Ang Lee! Eric Banna is not an actor - he is a stand up comic. He's Pwoida! (Australians may only get that) I have never felt the urge to walk out of a film this bad since The avengers or Mission impossible 2.... or Lara Croft. I don't normally winge like this on Talk back, but my God. What the fuck????
Hulk by bosston	Jun 28th, 2003 12:15:33 AM
Hulk wasn't bad just the annoying comic book frames with Ang showing different perspectives of the characters looking at each other. He could have left that out.
"HULK" is a great film. The "heavy story" gives contrast and ma by JDanielP	Jun 28th, 2003 01:38:51 AM
... where animators can expand on their knowledge of the Hulk. He will talk. He will smash. And he will look better than ever. And now that his origin has been told in great detail ... perhaps "HULK 2" will be more of a "crowd pleaser". I personally loved the film. -- In hindsight, yes, ... I would rather it have ended at Hulk's capture ... thus, focusing even more on key HULK scenes ... with the the "HULK-DOGS" and the U.S. Military. But overall, this was very smart filmmaking ... and much closer to being a "fantasy masterpiece" than many realize.
This film lost me when Hulk chucked a rock at the terrorists up by jules windex	Jun 28th, 2003 01:50:53 AM
Totally un-called for.
llac2 by BLADE	Jun 28th, 2003 02:11:11 AM
You are the dumb bitch for resorting to a "Mom" joke. When the gay porn dries up and you walk out of your parents basement look a real man in the face when you walk down the street, anyone it doesnt matter, start mouthing off to him let him snap your faggot ass back to reality. See I cant I dont know you. But I know they type, behind a computer screen you are a legend in your own mind. In real life your the dude I might take a shit on if I'd thought youd lick my ass clean.
It would be simply awesome if Universal had the rights to do the by JDanielP	Jun 28th, 2003 02:28:56 AM
Wow!!! Now wouldn't THAT be something??? (Move over "BATMAN VS. SUPERMAN") -- But the challenge with such a concept is the size factor of the HULK, based on the new movie. I mean, ... you'd seriously have to consider the size of the THING (of the Fantastic Four) for it to make some kind of "visual sense" (so-to-speak). -- But who hasn't enjoyed seeing the HULK and THING together in the same comic book (of you fans out there)? And how about that comic book from way back when (late 70's I think) that Bob Layton illustrated of IRON-MAN taking on the HULK ... where Iron-man's suit was getting low on power ... thus, resorting to taking Hulk into the water ... and finally put all remaining power into one punch to lay-out the Hulk cold! Anyone remember that (unless memory serves me wrong)???
Hulk, smash? by Yamato	Jun 28th, 2003 03:32:20 AM
Outside of the disappointment of not once hearing "Hulk Smash!" this movie was a mixed bag. And not in the way I expected. In the TV adds, the Hulk, well, looked aweful, but that was due to the fact that they only showed the Hulk in what has to be the only "poor" Hulk CGI scene, Hulk smashing the tanks. The rest of the CGI was very good, surprisingly good, to the point that the big green guy was one of the top 2 actors in the movie. Ok, first, the bad- the entire opening sequence gave me a headache, and that headache continued for another 30 min or so. The Psycho-babble in this movie was just horrible. It was like having the Crane brothers write a superhero movie. The last 10 min of the movie were also quite poor, with the confusing, and poorly shot fight scene between Hulk and the Absorbing Man. Ok what was good or great? The Dog/Hulk fight, just fantastic. The Rampage from the base to SF, great (accept for the tank scene, just did not click to me) I also loved the "foam" scene. Good actors, only 2, Sam Elliot, wonderful performance, and The Hulk itself, who was much more natural then Banner. Poor Performances, Nick Nolte! This movie could have been quite good, if, if, Lee was not allowed to do his vomit inducing "multi-box" filming, god, did that ever suck. Note to Mr. Lee, dont ever do that again, unless you want to give out heavy drugs before each viewing.
28 DAYS LATER fucking ruled! by Psyclops	Jun 28th, 2003 03:47:43 AM
Listen up, Hollywood! This is the kind of genre filmmaking we want to see. It's gritty, emotional and terrifying, just the way we like it. No more of this watered down PG-13 bullshit, we want our horror to be as brutal and as powerful as this movie. In the last week I've seen two of the best horror films of the year, 28 DAYS LATER and MAY, both of these movies lived up to the hype and were far better than most of the genre films released in the last five years. This is what we want to see. "The End Is Extremely Fucking Nigh."
'HULK' deserves to be seen by Ribbons	Jun 28th, 2003 04:47:43 AM
I don't really believe that it went over most people's heads, I simply think that most of you were expecting a different kind of movie than the one you got. Even if you did go in with an open mind, the film defies a lot of conventions. Admittedly, it does have flaws. However, if anybody dares to call 'Hulk' pretentious and then proceed to tell us how we all NEED to pick up our ears and pay attention to fucking 28 Days Later, I'm gonna stop listening. You wanna talk about a pretentious film, and one that doesn't even try to seem original at that (besides for the DV)? Soliders rape women. Society gets infected with "the rage" and becomes a group of cannibalistic zombies. But that Danny Boyle is a maverick! His movies rock hardcore! Maybe Ang Lee's movies don't carry the same cynicism as some punk's who grew up on Scorsese and Romero, but they're no less pretentious and self-important than this piece of shit. His films are just too cool to seem that earnest. If I had my choice between pretentious filmmakers to pay attention to, I'd pay attention to Ang Lee. We have enough cynics making movies these days, and Lee's movies are more aesthetically beautiful anyway. 'Spellbound' was pretty enthralling, by the way, but anybody who's interested in seeing documentaries probably already knew that. While I'm on a (sort of) comic book movie talkback, I'd like to take the time to apologize to any Punisher fanboys I may have miffed when I said blond hair wasn't something to get worked up over, and I'd like to beg Columbia to KEEP MARK STEVEN JOHNSON THE FUCK AWAY FROM GHOST RIDER! NO, MOTHERFUCKERS, NOOO!!!!
Hulk is proof that hollywood is just FUCKING with us!! And the f by TheGinger Twit	Jun 28th, 2003 08:09:03 AM
First of all, The Editing was fucking bullshit! I've got the same effects on my home editing software - the other (lesser) students like to load up their films with them - they are not the sign of a wiz bang editor who knows what he's doing! They are pointless and they are fucking stupid and distracting! The acting was absolutely fucking useless. I've seen soap opera's with more class than these dropkicks. And what's all this praise for Ang Lee? I've heard how great Ang Lee is, how this will be the greatest superhero film of them all. fuck off. This movie was shit. People in my cinema were looking amongst each other. We were all the butt of a practicle joke! some here may claim I went in expecting another film - yeah fucking a - then some may say I don't know good art. Bullshit, I was expecting the screen frame to flip upside down (in this biazare name of art) I've never seen a film draw so much attention to it's film makers before. Of the only good things I can say?.... well thank god for ILM. At least they know how to make some good cinema. It's just to bad when their services weren't called for we had to go back to that God aweful fucking story with the worst film making I've seen since I was in grade 10 film and TV. And when Hulk goes to his little chick-i-babe... there's a fucking monster in the bushes, and what does she do?? Does she shit her pants? Does she drop the torch and run? No! she fucking looks up lovingly and asks a question - 'Bruce?' For fuck's sake!! Are you people retarded? i've seen you bash Star Wars to the ground. I've seen people here call for un-holy war on hollywood for spiderman... yet still - The Hulk gets nothing but praise? This film was fucked! I am absolutely wide eyed and ready to slash my rists at what i have just lived through. I feel like burning down the cinema, all for the satisfaction that my no so well spent money wont go into the pockets of those who sold me this night out. Harry and Moriarty - I know you agree with me! I hope this film flops. I hope it make absolutly no money. I do not want to see a sequel that gets the same treatment as this piece of shit. I do not want to see any other superhero films made that end up looking like a film maker can do what ever the fuck he wants with it. This Movie was fucked! It was Fucked!!
Looks like Hulk is a "disappointment" by DevilCat	Jun 28th, 2003 08:21:53 AM
Box Office Mojo is reporting that its already slipped to third, behind "Charlie's Angels 2" and "finding nemo."
Clutch Embargo by Antoninus	Jun 28th, 2003 08:53:51 AM
Nice try, Clutch. However... 1) Betty must've known in her gut it was Bruce all along. Plus, she's a scientist, not a scared wittle wabbit. 2) Although gamma radiation is the most dangerous form of radiation, it only travels several meters through air, and only several centimeters through human tissue. Bruce would have served as a suitable shield for such a concentrated area of dosage. Plus, it's possible Bruce's "Hulk" cells would have absorbed all the radiation, which is why it didn't kill him. But of course, Bruce wouldn't have known that. 3) Obviously, in this case, and in many cases (Enron), the gov't and the private sector are heavily entangled. And we do see local authorities, when the cop car gets smashed at the beginning by that Hulk-thrown gizmo. Plus, General Ross knew something was up, so he ordered a federal lockdown on the research building. 4) Obviously security had sucked up to this point. Hell, illegal aliens were able to hijack 19 planes on 9/11. Plus, David has the keys to every door, including the back doors. 5) David was allowed to see Bruce because David sweet-talked Betty, who is Ross's daughter and a major player in this little fiasco. Plus, they had no idea that David was going to do what he did. Plus, if Bruce were to "Hulk out", the sensors woulda gone off, and they both woulda got fried by that big thing pointed at Bruce. 6) Remember, these aren't just ordinary hounds, they're Hulk-hounds! With hulk-powered noses to match. In the wild, many animals can smell dinner miles away. 7) This is a comic book movie! They didn't have to be Hellfire missiles! 8) I was a U.S. Navy nuclear power operator on a sub for six years. We used duct tape to emergency repair EVERYTHING! 9) David stole the scarf so the dogs could get a scent (This was obvious! Pay attention, Clutch!) 10) Hulk didn't drown because he's the Hulk, and can hold his breath. He got affected by space because of double thin air/freezing temp. of that altitude. Ross only calls the President for permission and to give information. 11) Hulk pauses in the desert because he's not a mere mindless beast. He's not out to smash, he just wants to be left alone. Hulk is purely defensive. Plus, it must take a lot of effort for his legs to propel 3,000 lbs miles into the air. Take a break, Hulk! 12) Bruce did not have a phobia to opening the door. The door was merely a symbol of his repressed memories. Plus, when he opens the door, there's nothing there. 13) The pilot screamed because it's much more dramatic that way, he must be scared shitless, and dude, they were in space... 14) David's powers were increased by the gamma blast. Remember how he takes out the securty guard? Biting through the cable shouldn't have been a problem. 15) Okay, I'm not exactly sure how cities work this, but whenever there's an abnormally large power spike, power gets shut off to that entire sector of the city. That's why the light were all going out. Plus, it's very possible (remember, this is a comic book movie) that David's super absorbing power was able to cause the electricity to arc past any circuit breakers and continue the energy flow. Plus, did they say "the entire state"? Either way, it doesn't matter. 16) General Ross thought Hulk was dead because the Hulk-blip was not moving. He was trapped under tons of rubble for some minutes. Rather presumptuous of Ross, yes, I agree. And that's it. By the way, Clutch, none of your "logic" accusations should take away from the fact that this was a great film. They simply weren't that big a deal. I think you need to stop being such a nitpicker, and go see Hulk again. You'll see that I'm right, you're...well...wrong, and that you'll enjoy Hulk much more on the second go around. Btw, Ang Lee rules, and HULK IS THE STRONGEST ONE THERE IS!!!
TheGingerTwit, concerning HULK, you are wrong, and I am not a di by Antoninus	Jun 28th, 2003 09:28:36 AM
Okay, maybe Hollywood does fuck with us, but as Moriarty said, every now and then, Hollywood lets something great go through the gate. HULK is such a film. As for the editing, okay, so you've got editing software at home. Good for you. Editing technology is not rocket science! It's what you do with it that counts. And what the filmmakers did with HULK is to use such crazy unorthodox techniques to help create tension where Ang Lee felt it needed it. So please, you Hulk-haters, get over the mulit-split-screen stuff, already. As for your other complaints i.e. "the Screaming Running Fainting Betty", please see my other posts on this talkback for an explanation. I'm sure you'll find them enlightening. As for that wrist slashing business of yours, please, do us all a favor, would you? And if you want to burn down an entire theater, feel free, you closet arsonist. Maybe a long vacation in an 8' x 9' prison cell is what you need to calm the hell down...
Seriously, The Hulk is GOOD by Serious Black	Jun 28th, 2003 09:57:59 AM
However, it is definitely not in everyone
The definition of a "Shithead" by President Evil	Jun 28th, 2003 10:14:22 AM
People who pretend to like MATRIX RETARDED and HULK (OF SHIT) because it somehow makes them feel "smarter" than the average person. As if these movies actually have something to "say." When it, in fact, makes them infinitely dumber than the average person (which is saying something), because they're the only ones wasting their time sitting through this drivel, feverishly trying to somehow make themselves feel important and that they are somehow picking up on something that no one else "gets." Yeah, well, there are mouth-breathers out there who "got" THE ROCK. Thankfully, I wasn't one of them... Call me nuts, but I think MATRIX and HULK are the best unintentional comedies of the summer...I heard people laughing out loud at both, so I don't think I'm alone in this. :::yawn::: I'm bored with this subject now...keep talking if you want to. It surely can't be any more useless than watching these movies...and leading the lives you live.
To all those confused by the Hulk ending by Serious Black	Jun 28th, 2003 10:45:29 AM

Hulk - theatrical vs. workprint by neurosis	Jun 28th, 2003 11:04:12 AM
Hey kids! Just saw the Hulk workprint last night (Film isn
I thoroughly enjoyed 28 Days Later! (not Hulk) by Rapunzel	Jun 28th, 2003 11:54:19 AM
Cillian Murphy was excellent (and he had some pretty raunchy things he had to do in this part) and this is probably my favorite Danny Boyle film. It was nice to have this kind of film for a change. The Hulk...as a person who never read the comic books or anything, I realize that I'm very ignorant about this movie. Still, as a person just going in to enjoy a movie, I found that I didn't enjoy it at all. I 'appreciated' it, because I thought that the transitions and such were brilliant, but the movie as a whole just didn't do it for me. I
The financial failure of Ang Lee's wonderful The Hulk means in 3 by Jerry Dammers	Jun 28th, 2003 12:09:36 PM
The "failure" of this film depresses the hell outta me. File under: Deeply Misunderstood. I love when people big up the late 70s TV series: "Why couldn't this movie have been like that?" Has anyone re watched that show as an adult? It's completely unwatchable. I love the Talk Backer who hated the film but then proved he wasn't paying attention by asking something to the effect of "how did the Hulk Dogs know where to find Betty?" and "what happened to Betty's scarf?"
pack of GAY PERVERTS by DeadRapedDeer	Jun 28th, 2003 12:38:10 PM
If it isn't Harry spankin the monkey over angel butt there's always Moriarty's gay sex slave take it up the ass bitch fantasies. This website is a frickin freakshow --------------- I
ANG LEE YOUNG MAN! by DeadRapedDeer	Jun 28th, 2003 12:47:32 PM
sorry but the lack of dead raped deer made this movie a thumbs down from me
I tred to see 28 Days Later... by TheFourthDoctor	Jun 28th, 2003 01:31:39 PM
But only one out of the 7 theaters in my area had it...and every show was sold out. Perhaps I'll try again today. I would have taken the TARDIS back in time so I could have secured a ticket earlier, but it really isn't that important. Jellybaby?
I AM LEGEND and 28 DAYS LATER by Alibi	Jun 28th, 2003 01:33:40 PM
Will I AM LEGEND ever get made now?
You guys need to stop watching movies... by TruMovieFan03	Jun 28th, 2003 01:42:32 PM
Ok, Honestly, some of you people have no business ever going into a theatre again. You are some of the most moronic and narrow-minded moviegoers I have ever had the unpleasure of listening to. I am but only 18 years old and can be open to every kind of filmmaking. 28 Days Later is one of the most gritty, realistic, relevent "horror" movies that has come out in a long time. You guys honestly think that this movie was made only for the purpose of entertaining immature viewers such as yourselves. "Hulk sucks balls...28 Days Later is a load of monkey shit"...thats the best critique you can come up with??? SHAME ON YOU!
This summer sux by UberSpectre	Jun 28th, 2003 03:41:43 PM
Almost all the movies this summer except for X2 have been a let down... I enjoyed the Hulk and for everyone bitching about how boring it was, your just one of those idiots who enjoy Charlie's Angels movies which by the way SUCK.... Whatever Hulk kicked ass but about 28 Days Later... I loved the first half but wtf happened to the rest of the movie? It became so stupid and the ending was horrible, I hate that sell out type of ending where everything is okay, I would have loved this movie to end with with someone exploding or massive zombie action to leave the audience with that feeling of "holly shit"... Another thing I hated was how this movie was filmed in all DV camera's it looked like something I would film, and I suck at filming things... That Blair Witch style camera movement also pissed me off, whenever you see a zombie or crazed person whatever you want to call them.. The camera would just start shaking... So all you people praising this movie I think are just brain washing yourselves because you wanted this movie to kick ass.. The sad thing is everyone is talking about how good this movie because its made by Boyle who is over rated anyway, if it was made by Bret Ratner or some Hollywood jack ass everyone would diss this movie to high heaven like what people are doing to Hulk
Moriarity likes his movies step by step too. Instead of 1, 2, 3 by ZuZuPetals	Jun 28th, 2003 04:16:00 PM
No one talks about the shitty Buzz Lightyear/Shrek looking Hulk because seeing that beat the hell out of watching the same flashback again and again and again with no point but to show it again and again and again._____ And anyone who dismissed this shit as ART needs a kick in their unbrushed teeth. I could place a tiny red dot on a 25 foot canvas, call it "Dispair," and convince you dumbasses it was art. Shut your pieholes.
Hull is the best comic adaptation ever committed to film. Shame by steve_zodiac	Jun 28th, 2003 05:12:31 PM

re: Clutch Embargo. (sigh) Here we go again... by Antoninus	Jun 28th, 2003 06:45:27 PM
I just got back from seeing HULK a 3rd time, so I've got green on my brain. But anyway... 1) Bruce throws the mask on Harper as a precaution, but TELLS HIM TO GET OUT. Harper panics and freezes right in front of the gamma ray inducer. Bruce tries to be a hero, not the logical thing maybe but he is human, and quickly re-program the machine. Suddenly, he realizes Harper is still there, and jumps in front of the gamma rays as they go off. That's why. 2) I don't think it's implicitly stated that David set off the bomb, but whatever. Either way, as I said before, the Berkeley Research Center must have really shitty security. 3) Talbot's use of the phrase "hostile takeover" was a figure of speech. Talbot is a civilian, with control over many military contracts. He's simply taking control of this government funded project. This has nothing to do with stockholders. 4) I think many times, Hulk came to the helicoptors. Plus, it just looks cooler that way. 5) The desert sequence took place in the middle of nowhere, probably hundreds or thousands of miles from the nearest military base. The U.S. military can't be everywhere at once, and I'm sure not every copter in the military has one of those "Hulk-finders." It was up to the few that were with Ross from the outset. Plus, the desert sequence I'm sure took place over a short period of time, so there was no time to amass the entire military. 6) Sure they can. Look at what the Federal Gov't is doing with the Taliban POW's at Guantanamo Bay, or what they did right after 9/11 to anyone suspected of being a terrorist. Plus, Bruce is a righteous dude, and I'm sure didn't have a problem turning himself in. Isn't that what the Hulk did in San Francisco, give up? 7) HULK is one of the smartest written artistically realized thrilling comic book movies ever. I don't drink anymore, but I could do with a joint right now. Join me?
The big AbsorbingMan/DavidBanner/WaterGl obule thing at the end e by Antoninus	Jun 28th, 2003 07:01:36 PM
I've just seen HULK a thrilling 3rd time, and I noticed something about the big water ball David Banner becomes at the end. Some talkbackers said it was inspired by Akira. Maybe. But a closer look shows that David Banner is actually forming the shape of a jellyfish, or a mushroom cloud, whichever way you look at it. Both images are relevant. In one fell swoop, Ang Lee is giving us both images to show the genetic and atomic forces at work here, while using re-current images as an aesthetic design. Remember, images of jellyfish and mushroom clouds are used prominently throughout the film. I tell you, HULK just gets deeper and deeper with every viewing. Ang Lee is one of my new favorite directors.
The Hulk is a pussy by Rupee88	Jun 28th, 2003 07:19:59 PM
Ang Lee's Hulk is weaker than the comic version and it is crazy how he doesn't kill anybody. If you throw a tank two miles, the people inside are going to die or at least be paralyzed. They wouldn't just get out of the tank and stand there...same for helicopters crashing into the ground. This movie was a bore more than anything else. The Hulk looked good, but they didn't give him that much interesting to do. He fought 3 helicopters and 2 planes...is that the most the full weight of the US Army could throw at him????
Give Ang Lee credit.... by Rupee88	Jun 28th, 2003 07:22:12 PM
....for trying something different, but he ultimately failed. I'm glad he didn't turn out an uninspired film like Batman and Robin, but he also failed to make a compelling film like X2. The crappy script was the main problem, but there was no follow through as well.
Rebuttal to Chris Embargo's Post by TheBluntSDK	Jun 28th, 2003 07:28:23 PM
First, if your going to have a question for the topic of a post, you need to put the phrase in the form of a question, i.e. "Why the Hulk is a bad movie, and this site is useless?", or "Why is the Hulk a bad movie, and the site useless?" In fairness, you did make some good points, but there were some points that were inaccurate. Though since you only saw this film once, I can see why you messed up. (1.) I think she already had a vague idea about what happened to the lab, and was already wondering why Bruce survived the radiation, so she was already guessing what happened to the Hulk in her mind. Plus, she wasn't too calm, it was more of a shock/fright, where if you stay still and don't do any sudden moves, nothing will happen. (2.) He probably wasn't thinking to clearly, first off, since he was panicking, and second, though radiation does pass through the body, most of it was absorbed by his body, hince why you here Betty explaining the injuries and damage done to the other scientist. (3.) I'm not too sure of this, because I'm not a "Hulk" afficionado, but I think it was a local organization and that's why Josh Lucas' character was trying to do the hostile takeover and such. The army did have control of the project in the 70's, when David was in charge, but after the accident, I think the Army stopped funding for their research. (4.) Well, like Lee said, there wasn't a lot of security day, and I supposed there would be even less during the night shifts. Plus, even if there were security guards, I don't think they'd mind a dog on the campus (or wherever they were at). (5.) Because...he maid a plea to General Thunderbolt, and said "I would turn myself in peaceful if you allow me to say goodbye to my son", so I don't think that they were expecting him to get Bruce angry. (6.) She forgot her scarf and he gave it to the dogs to sniff and track her down. (7.) No comment. (8.) I think your thinking of MacGuyver, not the A-Team...I don't remember BA Barracus going around with duct tape >:P (9.) See number #6. (10.) I don't remember that will, but I'm pretty sure he wasn't under water for too long... (11.) Ang Lee wanted to show the human side, Bruce, of the Hulk, that and he said this might as well be an "art" film, and the many shots off lichens and trees and moss reflect that image of "The Hulk". (12.) He didn't know his mom got stabbed period. He knew that something happened in the room and after they came out, so he repressed the memory so that he couldn't remeber what happened before the door opened. He also was afraid of opening the door because he didn't want to see what happened, he was happy not-knowing. (13.) It gets very cold at the alitude and I'd imagine that the G-Forces and pressure would make you pass out at the extent, but I'm not too sure. (14.) He doesn't have to bite into it, he absorbed the energy of the outside of the cable, and since he became part of the cable, I'm pretty sure he was able to harness the energy from the inside, without having to tear through the coating. (15.) See the end of 14. (16.) I honestly don't remember enough of that scene to comment. That's all. I'm not trying to bash you or anything, hince why I did this in a polite manner. The only thing of yours I disagree with is saying this site is useless. If your looking at it in the way that "Hey, this site is useless because they gave The Hulk a good review and I didn't like it," then any site that had someone's opinion on it would be useless, because not everyone relates to someone's critiques. That's why some people trust some critics reviews, because their opinions on movies are similar, and some people trust and follow other critics' reviews. Oh, and I think this site is very useful. I always come here to see what Moriaty, Flint, and Harry think, and I hope they keep up the good work. - --Thanks, TheBluntSDK-- -
Pretentious, self-indulgent and boOoring... by Ivan_Mtl	Jun 28th, 2003 09:19:44 PM
... are the words that immediately come to mind when I think of Ang Lee's Hulk (and I should stress that because it certainly isn't the Lee/Kirby creation we are seeing on the big screen). The script was ridiculous and the acting was laughably bad. Eric Bana and Jennifer Connely had all the emotional range of a coffee table, and Nick Nolte was so over-the-top that it bordered on camp. It is the first time that I saw an audience in a movie theatre boo the screen and I couldn't believe the number of parents leaving with their children - and NOT returning! No, this was a turkey of Thanksgiving Day proportions. The material would have been better suited for a mainstream director. Ang Lee directing this film is like Luciano Pavorotti singing with Van Halen. Just a bad idea.
Pretentious, self-indulgent and boOoring... by Ivan_Mtl	Jun 28th, 2003 09:23:33 PM
... are the words that immediately come to mind when I think of Ang Lee's Hulk (and I should stress that because it certainly isn't the Lee/Kirby creation we are seeing on the big screen). The script was ridiculous and the acting was laughably bad. Eric Bana and Jennifer Connely had all the emotional range of a coffee table, and Nick Nolte was so over-the-top that it bordered on camp. It is the first time that I saw an audience in a movie theatre boo the screen and I couldn't believe the number of parents leaving with their children - and NOT returning! No, this was a turkey of Thanksgiving Day proportions. The material would have been better suited for a mainstream director. Ang Lee directing this film is like Luciano Pavorotti singing with Van Halen. Just a bad idea.
Don't be hatin'. by Devil'sOwn	Jun 28th, 2003 10:15:15 PM
The Hulk is closure for me. It's been a wonderful past few years to be a comic/movie lover. For the most part, from Blade on up til now, we should be grateful these movies even exist. There was a time when they couldn't even make a decent movie about a man in a costume! Encouraged by these successes, they'll make Fantastic Four, Ghost Rider, Sub-Mariner, etc. More power to 'em. For now though, I'm just looking forward to other types of genre films. They have at least proven it can be done. BONG!
28 day is the surprise of 2003 by Drgroomes	Jun 28th, 2003 10:47:27 PM
I walked into 28 Days later intrigued by its intresting yet lack-lusting trailer. I walked out with an entirely different feeling. This movie has to be one of the best films of this year. The camera direction was perfect. And the acting was very convincing. And it is on those principles that this movies stand off from other zombie flicks, and horror films in general. The suspense was awesome. The opening scene was iconic. And the gore...the gore..the gore. Lets just say i'm glad they didn't pussy out on this flim and made it the way all horror films should be made. Rated R. I highly recommend this movie.
28 Days one of the best films of 2003!! by Drgroomes	Jun 28th, 2003 10:58:33 PM
I walked into this movie with curiosity because of its interesting yet lack-lasting trailer. When i walked out i had an entire different feeling. This movie has to be one of the best films of the year. The camera direction was perfect. The acting was very convincing. And based on just those two principles, this films stands out from other zombie movies....hell horror films in general. The suspense was excellent. And the gore...the gore...the gore. Let me just say i'm glad the studios didn't pussy out. They made this film exactly how all horror films should be made. Rated R. I highly recommend this movies to anyone and everyone.
Answers to a few problems... by SK909	Jun 29th, 2003 12:10:29 AM
That altitude thing is really stupid from that guy that posted all of those supposed logic flaws in the Hulk. There are a few things that I think are intentionally vague, such as the door, the mother getting stabbed, the scarf... these are left open to slight interpretations. A lot of the film seems to be a subconscious lulling dream state that you're rudely awakened out of when Bruce becomes the Hulk. Which I think is sort of clever, since we're really programmed and half-asleep when we're in everyday life, muttering on and on about useless BS, and if we could really show our true essence, you'd have variations on the extremes of mythological archetypes, of which, the Hulk just happens to be. I always felt he was more a reaction against the need to conform and follow rules, rather than having anything to do with repressed family trauma. Almost a caveman in waiting... Anyway - when that pilot goes up into the barrier between space and the atmosphere, he could be anywhere from 70,000-150,000 feet above the earth's surface. I think that oxygen masks merely regulate, store, and disburse oxygen, and after spinning out of control with the Hulk on the back of the plane, the man could have passed out from fear, dizziness, or, if my theory about the masks is right, lack of oxygen. The second thing that about your post was the part about David biting through that cable. He is already able to absorb the essence of things before this scene, as in when he takes on the qualities of that metal grating floor - when he discovers this power. When he does this, the exterior qualities of things seem to warp over and on top of his skin. When he's in that chair, his hand seems to move underneath the surface of the chair while his skin mimics the surface. So when he bites the wire, his teeth probably absorbed right through the insulation and went down to the wire itself. Voila... take a bite. Overall though, I thought the film was a bit ponderous and could have had a little more fun in the scenes when he's not the hulk. I personally think Lee went off the deep end in an effort to keep his reputation and make it, as much as one possibly can, unforgivingly a film of his own. He could have pulled back just a little...
A few words for Hypno Toad by Voice O. Reason	Jun 29th, 2003 12:28:58 AM
"You're all obviously products of the American Educational System." ______________________________ _____ I'm sorry you've bought into the stereotype of American schools. Our media tends to depict our schools as impoverished warzones when, in fact, the majority of our schools are doing quite well. Yes, there are some underfunded inner-city slums that give the rest of our schools a bad reputation, but they mostly exist in movies, on television, and in the minds of politicians who need something to campaign about. If you think you're country (where ever the hell that is) is doing so great, I'd love to see the evidence. Sure, there's statistics that say that American children do worse on standardizd tests, but we actually test all of our kids, not just the ones who are college-bound (like the countries that claim to beat us do).
re: Clutch Embargo (yaawn!) Y'know, Clutch 'ol boy, this is star by Antoninus	Jun 29th, 2003 12:40:09 AM
First off, I'm no pothead, by any means. Actually, I'm just a pretentious sometime social smoker, at best. It's just these endless tirades by Hulk-haters everywhere are driving me to serious drug abuse. Besides, haven't you been reading the latest headlines? Marijuana does not cause brain damage! But alcohol...does. Now who's suffering from brain cell degradation? But, on with it... 1) David Banner doesn't "Hulk out" like Bruce because his DNA is NOT THE SAME as Bruce's. David simply experimented on himself, thereby affecting his body in a way that would give birth to a son with the "Hulk" DNA. The dogs "Hulked out" because they were directly subjected to a sample of Bruce's DNA. David's DNA is messed up in a different manner, such that when exposed to the nanomeds and gamma rays, he becomes an Absorbing Man. 2) None of the Hulk Dogs were blood hounds. In fact, they appeared to be a Shar Pei, a Pit Bull, and, of course, a French Poodle. All dogs are born with an innately high sense of smell. Blood hounds are merely trained that way by men for hunting. All dogs have the same DNA because they all came from wolves, and they really have no difference beyond physical build. Therefore, they all smell equally well. 3) Have you read the recent headline of the baby that fell eight stories and lived? It happens. Also, the soldier(s) in the tank were wearing helmets. They had time to put on their safety belts. They didn't have to worry about being crushed by folding metal or being thrown through a windshield like in an SUV because they were in a TANK. Centrifugal force may have played a factor in their survival. The tank hit the very very soft sand dunes, which acted as a cushion. There was no danger of explosion. And of course, we're dealing with the best trained and finest fighting force in the world! At best, the soldier(s) would suffer a concussion or a few broken bones. But that's it. Plus, in these crazy times, it would be very un-Patriotic of Hulk to kill any member of our Armed Forces, agree? Of course you agree! Look, the main reason it's so easy to explain away all of your "logic" faults is because there are no faults. HULK is a perfectly logical well-written thought out film. The hard work's already been done by that fine filmmaker Ang Lee. I'm merely trying my best to show you and other Hulk-haters the way to the light. That's all. Don't hate Hulk. Accept Hulk. Love Hulk. Because HULK IS THE STRONGEST ONE THERE IS!!
Antoninus by TheGinger Twit	Jun 29th, 2003 12:44:58 AM
See it's like this. I like to get lost in a film. I like to enjoy a story. I don't like to see a transition that makes me think - wow, that was un-called for. I don't want to see acting that makes me think - wow, what the fuck is going on with this? I don't want to see direction that makes me think - Did this thing even have a director? I don't want to see a script that makes me think - This must have been written by a bunch of stoners in a very smokey conference room brainstorming about what would be 'cool'. Is the Editing style and transitions original? I don't think so. You never see Tim Allen's TV show home improvement? You never see the crap fest Inspector Gadget? It had all the same shit this film did. It's not good film making. If Universal was truely proud of this film and it's style, then it would have made trailers and TV spots with the same kind of style. Yes I have Editing software, the point wasn't to blow my own horn, the point was that I've worked with film makers that feel the need to jam pack their movies witht his kind of special effects nonsence - all because there's a transition option with thousands of different transition - but only 1 (A cross disolve) that should be used. I'm just absolutly discusted with this Hulk film. I'm absolutly discusted with Ang Lee. But most of all, I am absolutly discusted that people like you will make out that I'd prefer to watch a piece of shit like Batman & Robin - like if it was made better then that's what it would be. Well, here's me raising my finger to that. The Hulk could have been a really good fun film. Yes, key words, fun film. Now just because it's a fun film doesn't mean it couldn't have it's dark moments. Or it's compelling story. fun means that it moved well. That we could understand the HULK's anger. We could see the rage. Instead, none of that. Who is Bruce Banner? as far as I can tell, he's just a retard with no personality who turns green and mean. Who is Betty? Some chick who knows Bruce - and I guess I'm just supposed to assume they are in love. Who is Nick Nolte, he's the character at the beginning when he was younger. I put that together not through enjoyment of the story, but by assumption that this film could really be this bad. I'm afraid the army dude, who was betty's father just went way over my head. You see, I hated this film. Everyone I know hates this film. I'm still meeting more who hate this film. Nothing you can say about me not getting it, or prefering it was dumbed down for me, or prefering that some hack like Anderson should have done it - Just fuck off with that bull shit. We'll all see how well Time treats the HULK. I'm betting my side has the final say.
Hulk Sequel by Serious Black	Jun 29th, 2003 02:08:46 AM
Some out there are determined to hate the Hulk. They post their venomous diatribes again and again as if in doing so they will be released from the agony that the Hulk has inflicted upon them. This seems appropriate. The poor, misunderstood monster must have been destined to have a misunderstood film. It
Hulk, 28 Days Later by tom_joad	Jun 29th, 2003 02:37:29 PM
Regarding the Hulk, I liked most of it, even the long introduction. What I didnt like was the CGI Hulk, it seems to be pretty inconsistent as far as the size, he can hammerthrow the tank, and when he did this the tank looked smaller than when he took off the turret on the other tank. The infected dogs changed size too, bigger when fighting him and smaller on normal surroundings especially when compared against the car. If David Banner can absorb electricity how can he die from a nuclear blast, wouldnt that make him even stronger. As for 28 Days Later, I liked the movie a whole lot better only thing is if it only takes it 30 seconds to get transformed, how was it able to spread to the rest of the world, surely you wont let an infected man board a plane. Spoiler, Spoiler, I also didnt think it was wise of him to release the infected soldier knowing that the two girls are also there, I thought the risk was too much.
28 days by alcester	Jun 29th, 2003 03:06:28 PM
This movie was average, nothing special.
"A nation that elects GEORGE W BUSH as their leader has to have by YourOlympicHero	Jun 29th, 2003 04:57:05 PM
Two questions...(1) should "fucken" be "fucking"? (2) The American public didn't elect George Bush. His opponent actually got more votes!
Okay, that second one wasn't a question. by YourOlympicHero	Jun 29th, 2003 05:01:16 PM
It should have read: in what sense did the American people elect George W. Bush when he actually got less votes than his opponent?
The Stand + Night of Living Dead=28 Days Later by HarmoniumSaver	Jun 29th, 2003 05:12:30 PM
I gotta say, it had that good "End of the world empty streets" vibe, when even going grocery shopping becomes a blessing. Cool music too. I wouldn't say I was afraid of the zombies, but the idea of being alive and without a soul scares the shit out of me. And things weren't overexplained, they just existed and a few people had to live with limited knowledge. Dark=Zombies, simple as that. The zombie attacks were short and confusing, but as a whole, the movie was worth it and I would take a girl to it. The only bad acting was the young girl. Pretencious line-delivery sucks too. but awesome movie.
I haven't posted here for months... by ThePoleOfJustice	Jun 29th, 2003 05:41:50 PM
...and after reading the TBs, I know why. 28 DAYS LATER wasn't my kind of Zombie movie. WAAAAH!
BOX OFFICE PUNCH by TomVee	Jun 29th, 2003 08:28:02 PM
I think it is fair to say whatever THE HULK does box office-wise, it was never intended to be another SPIDERMAN. It is not a film I would see in the movies but then I didn't see SPIDEY in a theater either. (I had trouble enough sitting through the first X-MEN in my local bijou, even with my youngest kid and wife in tow.) The kids are the one who made SPIDEY a spectacular success, after all, and they will make or break THE HULK. Problem is, THE HULK has no following outside of a very narrowly defined demographic. And that demographic is entirely male to boot, which cuts further into the box office potential. I used to love THE HULK comics as a kid, but one look at the previews for this is enough to turn me off comic book movies forever. I could take a green-painted stunt man as the Hulk, but a cartoon interacting with human actors? Shades of Roger Rabbitt! On the other hand, a CGI HULK is aimed at a completely different age group and mindset than mine.
Neosamurai85's 28 Days Later review by Neosamurai85	Jun 29th, 2003 11:27:24 PM
This is easily the best thing I
Hulk good! by boba_rob	Jun 29th, 2003 11:43:35 PM
Just got home from seeing The Hulk. I have to say that it is one of the more original movies I've seen in quite a while. Yet, it still retained the super hero movie formula-backstory, love interest, sympathy and of course action. The Hulk is definitely better than Spider-Man. Nick Nolte was great, as was Jennifer and Bana. The Hulk himself was far better than I expected, except for the desert scenes with him hoping around. But the first scenes of the Hulk, at night and in the lab with Nolte, they looked great. Lucas death scene was retarded, and Im still undecided about the ending. I suppose it was meant to be seen as Bruce finally comfronting his inner demons, his pas and his father. Anyway, those who havent seen it, go, its worth your $8.
The HULK sends the same shivers down your spine as X-Men2 by Eyegore	Jun 30th, 2003 01:39:06 AM
When the hulk goes nuts in the desert it was so freaking cool I got all antsy in my seat. I almost squealed in delight. It's because it was so dead on true to the comics. Don't believe these assholes who watched it on thier computers. They're retards. If you are a fan of the comics or just really cool movies, you owe it to yourself to see it on the big screen. You won't regret it.
28 days later (from nytimes) by ClancyWiggum	Jun 30th, 2003 02:49:23 AM
"28 Days Later ... has many scenes of maiming, dismemberment, clubbing, shooting, bayoneting and shoplifting." That was funny to me, and I'm now sharing it with you.
The franchise is dead. Down 70% in week 2. by jules windex	Jun 30th, 2003 02:56:36 AM
Unless Universal really slashes the budget, you won't be seeing another Hulk film anytime soon. It is OVER
28 Days Later and a $5 Coke at Regal Cinemas... by lynxpro	Jun 30th, 2003 03:11:43 AM
There is something wrong in this world when Danny Boyle can make 28 Days Later for less than US$9 Million and Warner Bros. cannot make I Am Legend for less than US$100 Million...
don't diss Mark S. Allen... by lynxpro	Jun 30th, 2003 03:26:06 AM
He's from UPN31 (and KSFM 102.5 before that) here in Sactown... and he was like briefly on an episode of Martin way back in the day... He is not, I repeat, NOT David Manning... So smeg off... :)
so am i the only guy who noticed that nolte was totally channeli by Trader Groucho	Jun 30th, 2003 04:17:03 AM
after reading moriarty's review, i may give the big green guy a second shot on DVD, but i gotta say this is by far my least favorite ang lee flick. but i am totally with moriarty on mars attacks! i watched it again last night with a friend who'd never seen it. her reaction? a. she loved it. 2. she totally understood why it didn't do better at the box office. i can't tell you how much i still love the martians' gleeful culturally aware maliciousness. by the time the film gets to the first time the martians hear slim whitman, you totally GET why his singing would have that kind of effect on them.
i wanted to hear sam elliott at the end of this movie saying "th by Trader Groucho	Jun 30th, 2003 04:20:42 AM
am i alone here?
the scarf... by pogo on my own	Jun 30th, 2003 06:29:11 AM
I dont know if someone already posted this, but he stole the scarf and later threw it to the dogs to give them her scent. You could see him throw it in the dogs pen just before they took off.
Devilcat, HULK's just not a box office "disappointment"...at thi by Commando Cody	Jun 30th, 2003 07:05:20 AM
From the Reuters newswire (quote): "There were some other trouble spots at the box office. "The Hulk" slipped to No. 2 with just $18.4 million in its second weekend, losing a stunning 70 PERCENT of its audience, one of the steepest slides in recent memory. Its 70 percent tumble compares with a 63 percent second-weekend drop for 2 Fast 2 Furious, a 45 percent dip for Bruce Almighty, and a 34 percent erosion for Finding Nemo. "Obviously we're very disappointed," said Nikki Rocco, Universal's president of distribution. "You never want to see this kind of drop." (END QUOTE) ******* Gee, here's a tip -- maybe somebody should've stood up at one of the Universal test screenings and simply told them that the movie was a boring piece of shit that Ang Lee jerked himself off on apparently. Sheesh, what a crapfest HULK was. Who would've thought the old Bill Bixby 2 hour TV pilot would be a helluva lot more fun and would possess a characterization of David Banner that was more sympathetic AND infinitely more likeable?
Props for Ribbons by Alex J. Murphy	Jun 30th, 2003 08:55:44 AM
Ribbons said: "Yeah, because all lonely soliders will, invariably, end up raping women. I know the army and religion are growing increasingly more reviled among 'film scholar' circles, but give me a fucking break. We NEED more films like '28 Days Later?!' Yeah, we NEED more self-important "experimental" directors that contribute to the disparity of moviegoing audiences in the first place. We need another '28 Days Later' like we need a bad rash. Sure, there are a lot of things to admire abo

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