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Jon Quixote And Uncapie Review THE HULK!! And Is There Already HULK 2 News'!

Hulk Smash. by iamguthrie	Jun 20th, 2003 08:33:51 AM
Wow. This might be worth selling the kids and going to see. Am I first? And what does that mean?
Hulk 2: Banner moves to Glendale and becomes an adult film star by Lance Rock	Jun 20th, 2003 08:37:28 AM

KingofSpace by kingralphuk	Jun 20th, 2003 08:38:11 AM
Looks like weve both been scuppered by this weasel....wonder if he's a Hulk-Weasel ?
Hey! No fair to Sam! by nervous twitch	Jun 20th, 2003 08:40:43 AM
He's just doing what the Sony suits tell him to do. Take the money and run. Thats what i say.
whoops. took the wrong turn. by Hud	Jun 20th, 2003 08:42:14 AM
sorry. pardon me.
HULK SMASH! by Blue_In_The_Face	Jun 20th, 2003 09:30:37 AM
Ninety percent of the review give Hulk very good ratings. Some people fail to understand the fact that the Hulk looks bright green in the movie is because he is glowing with radiation. I am so fucking excited I don't know how to contain myself! This movie is going to FUCKING RULE, I know it! Yeeeeeeeaaaaaah!
HULK 2: SECRET OF THE OOZE by spankymcgee	Jun 20th, 2003 09:31:01 AM
Do I smell a call from the studio to my house? EH? GOOD TITLE EH?
Sigh, it's finally here!!! by viola123	Jun 20th, 2003 09:35:57 AM
I am so psyched, I can't even type. But had to thank Moriarty for the news, and you guys for the reviews, and couple this with the sigh, the wonderful news about "World of Tomorrow" finding a distributor, and (squeal) being a summer movie next year (go Jude!), I'm just going to be the most unproductive person today. No way will I be able to think straight until I see "Hulk" and I'm sooo glad that you guys have fallen for it. It always looked fantastic to me, and every time I saw Eric Bana's face, my heart just crumbled, so good stuff, you guys, and yay, only about 12 hours left before I get to talk and talk about the wonder that is "Hulk." Spoiler Last night, Ang was on "Charlie Rose" and sigh, they showed that part when Talbot meets Bruce for the first time, and then walks out, and the picture breaks into frames as he walks away: one on Talbot, one on Betty, and one on Bruce -- blew me away. So beautiful! And that was only like one minute. Gosh!
Nice review JonQ, but where's the funny? by mortsleam	Jun 20th, 2003 09:36:59 AM
It kills me that I'm not seeing this until Tuesday at the earliest. Puny family obligations in other states! Walrus smash!
It would be cool to go with an even more "comic book-ish" storyl by Terry_1978	Jun 20th, 2003 09:42:54 AM
Even if you don't like the character, he is one of the Hulk's main antagonists, and it would only be inevitable to have him and Abomination in a future flick. Besides, we'd get the chance to see Banner crush armies of Leader driven robots and weaponry.
Best use of weird stock footage since "Glen or Glenda" by Crimson Dynamo	Jun 20th, 2003 09:45:11 AM
Really, some Ang Lee's scenes reminded me of Eddie's use of stock footage of buffalo running through the plains in "Glen or Glenda". And the transformation scenes in the movie from Banner to Hulk lacked the suspense and "Oh shit" factor that you felt when Bill Bixby turned into the Hulk. Pull the strings! Pull the strings!
Hulk Smash! by AliceInWonderlnd	Jun 20th, 2003 09:54:42 AM
I always liked the Hulk. Someone that just runs around in an angry rage with green skin and purple pants simply rules. And I am psyched to see this movie.
And let's not forget the classic "Daredevil kills a guy" faux-pa by Chastain-86	Jun 20th, 2003 10:09:41 AM
Goddammit, I wanted to kick the scriptwriter in the nuts after I saw that. How fuckin' hard is it to understand that DAREDEVIL DOESN'T KILL PEOPLE UNLESS HE HAS TO?
kingofspace smash puny humans... by iamguthrie	Jun 20th, 2003 10:11:03 AM
...because King of Space is strongest there is. King of Space is also a bored office monkey (non-Hulk, at this time, but 5:00 is coming) who wants to see the Leader, his Humanoid, some Rick Jones stupidity, and dammit somebody gimme some Wendigo next time, too! Of course, given the atmosphere surrounding this premiere, Avi Arad is probably drunk on green Schlitz, and asking some intern "Can we get that Italian Red Skull from the atrocious Captain America movie with Matt Salinger, too? That was coooool." Can't wait to see this. Even if it blows goats, it HAS to be better than Daredevil...even Supernova was better than Daredevil.
Evil Grey Hulk is interesting.. But he better kick some ass, and by joeblowe	Jun 20th, 2003 10:16:00 AM
I hated how this hulk just stood there and stared at everything. Not a beast at all.
The Hulk proves, again, that ILM OWNS ALL! by banshee	Jun 20th, 2003 10:23:00 AM
Caught a midnight showing last night. (Got about an hour of sleep before heading of to work.)__If you are being honest, TRULY honest with yourself, then you have to admit that ILM has blazed new territory here. The Hulk, while not 100% realistic, is the closest CGI character we've had yet to a "real" creature. Better than Jar Jar, or Yoda, and yes, better than Gollum.__The Hulk actually INTERACTS with his surroundings. Compare the soaking wet Hulk to Gollum in the pool. The speed of movement, the lighting actually matches the "real" lighting on the set, something WETA failed at half the time...and the Hulk is BRIGHT GREEN. He would have looked even better if he had been grey. Let's see how good Gollum would look if he were the Hulk's color.__Sorry boys, but when push comes to shove, ILM still leads the pack. I'm going back tonight to see it again.
Chastain & JoeBlow by JonQuixote	Jun 20th, 2003 10:27:10 AM
Chastain: DD as killer. As you probably glean from my review, I don't mind changes..as long as they're there for a reason. The reason they turned DD into a killer was so they could have his "I won't kill" redemption at the end. Of course, the problem with that was the original story had the "I won't kill" at the beginning and took Murdock through the motions of turning him into a vigilante who turns his back on the law in favor of revenge, which was FAR more interesting than the cliched "If I kill you I'll be just as bad as you" we got in the movie. Unfortunate, to say the least. *** Joeblow. Hulk has never been the beast. At least not until a few recent "new" takes. Classically, Hulk has been about the Id - it's not just Rage Banner repressed, but love, sadness, etc. The Hulk isn't a creature of Anger, he's a creature of impulse...it just often manifests in anger. Ang does that pretty well.
After getting a glimpse of "HULK" on the sci-fi channel ... seei by JDanielP	Jun 20th, 2003 10:32:23 AM

Hulk review by Nickelpig	Jun 20th, 2003 10:58:14 AM
Saw the Hulk Wednesday night in Orlando. In my opinion, it is very hit and miss. Hit as a wonderful comic book movie, Miss as an art film. Some of the dialogue and acting are beautiful (ie, David Banner talking with Bruce about ten minutes from the end), most of the action is decent at best. It is very slow for the first half hour while we meander through backstory. The editting is mostly crap... like someone went through the entire library of Powerpoint transitions. ("Wow! Water effects! I don't know why that would be a good idea for this particular scene change, but isn't it neat?!") The split screens were a nice idea, but mostly wasted. We don't need two shots of David Banner turning a key. We don't need four shots of the same three helicopters. That's distracting. I will say, however, that the movie was satisfying. Go out and see it, buy popcorn. It's a nice lazy afternoon summer flick, and you'll more than likely have fun and enjoy yourself. It is not the art house masterpiece Harry and his chosen reviews make it out to be. It tries to be, but fails. Example: Betty speaking with Banner, about fourty five minutes into the movie... she's in focus, he's out of focus, for the whole dialogue. Why? It doesn't add anything to the film, it's not symbolic, it's annoying. A good director is invisible in his films, but Ang Lee is in your face through much of this movie, and it brings you out of the experience.
Art House Film? by Ben-Hur	Jun 20th, 2003 11:43:15 AM
News just in, Hulk 2 to be produced/directed by Merchant/Ivory. Bruce Banner is working as a butler for a wealthy English family. He has managed to keep calm for several years, then one day he accidenly cuts his finger slicing the crust off of some cucumber sanwiches he's preparing for the family's afternnon tea, "HULK SMASH ALL CROCKERY".
Hulk 2: Hulk and Hulkerer with Crazy Gary Busey as the baddie! by OverMuch	Jun 20th, 2003 12:23:50 PM
"The sun's been down eight minutes before we see it. It's true science."
Is this movie perfect... by Snarky	Jun 20th, 2003 12:32:34 PM
Why does every reviewer on this site use that phrase? Am I leaving now, yes!
HULK 2: BEYOND THUNDERBOLT by Kenshiro_Kane	Jun 20th, 2003 12:58:18 PM
... starring Native American pro wrestler Tatanka as Hulk's number one adversary... namely, the Native American pro wrestler Tatanka. Word. http://www.nativetatanka.com
A HUGE DISAPPOINTMENT by Shingledecker	Jun 20th, 2003 12:59:45 PM
For the life of me I can't understand why Harry raved about this movie. I saw it an early screening and it was, without a doubt, the biggest disappointment I've seen all year. I am a big fan of the comic (especially of the past few years--the Bruce Jones arc has been phenomenal) and this paled in comparison on every level. What in the world was Universal thinking? They had the rights to the Hulk and they turned it into a boring art house movie. The Hulk doesn't even appear for the first 45 minutes, which would be okay if Bana or Conelly held our interest--which they don't. Could Ang Lee have picked two less interesting actors for those roles? Some early critics jumped on the Ang Lee bandwagon but, thank God, more honest reviewers are now beginning to weigh in. If you read today's New York Times review you've got an honest assessment of this film. The only real highlight of the movie was Nick Nolte's hair. He's got Muppet Hair! That was worth the price of admission alone. Come to think of it, I saw it for free. But at $9? Nah. Wait for the video.
Hulk 2: Hulkamania by Mister Pink	Jun 20th, 2003 01:02:17 PM
In the sequel, the conflict between Hulk and Banner will result in the formation of a balding, T-shirt ripping, leathery, sun tanned Hulk who calls everybody "Brother" and takes the wrestling world by storm. He will then have to fight off the unholy alliance of a vampire and a werewolf. He kills the vampire first, but then the werewolf gets exposed to gamm rays and turns into a Hulk-werewolf. The werehulk runs into the woods and the wrestling Hulk follows a trail of dead, raped deer to find him. There is a huge battle at the end but before Hulk can kill the Werehulk, the Werehulk announces that he is really from Krypton and he flies away, leaving the door open for Hulk 3. Ang Lee is reportedly seeking an actor who can plausibly portray the wrestling Hulk. Freddie Prinze Jr. is reportedly up for the part.
I can't wait to see this by Blok Narpin	Jun 20th, 2003 01:02:28 PM
With the sole exception of Blade II there hasn't been a bad movie based on a Marvel comic post 1997. Blade was great, X-Men was even better. Blade II was BAD (only bad one yet). Spider-Man was incredible. Daredevil was terrific, and X-Men United was the best yet. Aside from Blade II Marvel films haven't let us down yet, so I have no reason to believe Hulk will be a letdown.
Abomination in Hulk 2 would be like T2, but it would work by Stan Gable	Jun 20th, 2003 01:13:27 PM
Just as Terminator was the machine against man and T2 was machine against machine with man caught in the middle, Hulk 2 with the Abomination would be similar with two superpowered monsters going at it. It would be kind of formulaic, like Superman I & II, where he went from fighting evil humans to fighting Zod with powers like his own. However, that really is the logical place for the Hulk series to go, and who wouldn't want to see double the destruction based on how cool what I've seen of this Hulk looks?
Hulk CGI better than Gollum CGI? by mike FRENZY	Jun 20th, 2003 01:28:45 PM
I read earlier in the talk back that some one said that ILM's Hulk was the first real computer imaged character to come to life. Whatever! Did you even see The Two Towers? WETA's Gollum look so incredibly real it often hurt my eyes. For me . . . thats a tell tale sign, cause' when something hurts my eyes then Im known that Im looking at something real. The Hulk did not hurt my eyes. And dont get me wrong he looked better than I thought he would and I had high expectations . . . but Gollum blew me out of the water.
THIS MOVIE WAS WRETCHED! by microwavable?	Jun 20th, 2003 01:52:56 PM
I SPOOLED THIS LAST NIGHT AT THE THEATER I WORK AT AND THE WHOLE MOVIE IS SOOOOOOOOOO LONG-WINDED WITH NOTHING TO SAY! THERE IS NO PAYOFF FOR THE EMOTIONS THEY TRY TO BUILD! AND ANY CREDIBILITY THE EMOTIONAL REALISM GAINS IS INSTANTLY RUINED WITH THE SILLINESS OF THE HULK FIGURE ITSELF! THE COMIC BOOK STYLE EDITING IS SORT OF COOL, BUT DIDN'T REALLY HELP MOVE THE STORY FORWARD - IT JUST GAVE 'MORE ANGLES' TO TRACKING SHOTS. I'M SORRY, I WAS REALLY, REALLY BORED DURING MOST OF THIS MOVIE. "HOLLYWOOD HOMICIDE" AT LEAST KEPT ME INTERESTED WITH LIKABLE CHARACTERS!!!!!
HULK 2: by frank cotton	Jun 20th, 2003 01:55:03 PM
The INCREDIBLER Hulk.
Is that Deylight guy with his "Stone Cold - HELL YEAH's" banned by TheAFLACDuck	Jun 20th, 2003 02:08:29 PM
Stone Cold was in a couple Nash Bridges episodes ... and he has NOWHERE NEAR the universal appeal and the pure cinematic charisma that Hulk Hogan has. Give it a rest. You can't just FORCE an AICN catchphrase man! it has to happen organically! So quit forcing 6 or 7 Stone Cold references into every talkback. Remember, Hulk Hogan = Funny & Stone Cold = Not Funny.
"boring art house movie" by GypsyTRobot	Jun 20th, 2003 02:09:25 PM
dude I am so there! I hope John Sayles writes, directs and edits Hulk 2. Where Eric Bana unionizes some illegal immigrant farmworkers, and if he hulks out, it happens off camera or after the end of the movie.
Blade II was waaaaaaaay better than Daredevil by Dinobot_x	Jun 20th, 2003 02:49:11 PM
Daredevil blew asschunks. "Hmmm I'll fight a blind guy in a playground, I didn't whip his ass so I guess I'm in love" The back bone of the film was based on this shallow relationship, hence a shallow film. And what a great and beleivable fight at the end, Kingpin just gives up. CRAAPP!!! "Go ahead tell them you got beat by a blind guy" man I didn't know crime lords were so easily stifled.
It's nice that the online hardcore comic book geeks love it, but by minderbinder	Jun 20th, 2003 02:57:18 PM
Saw it a few days ago and hated it...many people will be pissed they wasted their money on this, just wait for the bad word of mouth and the hulk sized drop at the BO next weekend.
this movie was incredibly unpleasant.... and UNSATISFYING by Bregalad_	Jun 20th, 2003 03:18:17 PM
Look, I've been a Hulk/ Thor/ Dr. Strange Marvel fan since I was just a wee lad. And I always loved the Bill Bixby transformations on T.V. Trust me, I wanted this HULK movie to be as splendid as any of Ang Lee's other movies.... I wanted it to be a damn fine Hulk movie, and I had every right to expect it. But sorry, it sucks. Take 2 hours of painfully inert dialogue scenes that do not build any narrative rhythm -- add in characters you don't really care about -- mix in Nick Nolte chewing the scenery like Jeremy Irons in "Dungeons & Dragons" -- then bake at 350 degrees with over used military cliches of the worst order (Sam Elliot causes groans every time he opens his mouth). It is grotesquely violent without any sense of the playful or ironic, like many better comic book flicks. The whole film is UNFUNNY, UNPLEASANT, and has ZERO sense of adventure or Hulk-ish exhiliration (except for the brief minutes he leaps over the desert mesas). Comparing HULK to the great excitement and energy of X2 is the perfect way to understand what I'm talking about. Mr. Ang Lee has handed us a turgid green turd of a movie. Yeesh.
The David Banner / Hulk Ending was BAD by NotchJohnson	Jun 20th, 2003 03:22:42 PM
SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER HEY THERE IS A SPOILER HERE The film was a bit long, should have been more tightly edited, but from the moment that David Banner bit the electrical cord and "transported" himself and Hulk to the canyon and lake, that sucked. I know that there's a comic book story, but a bit of omission or tighter editing would have made it more understandable. I consider myself to be a sophisticated filmgoer, and I was scratching my head trying to make sense of whatever the hell David Banner was "morphing" into. Just live or die, don't do this in-between where we can't tell what the hell happened to you. Notch out.
Hulk comic is good, dude! by jogar	Jun 20th, 2003 03:23:34 PM
To youse guys who are dissing the comic (let alone the movie)... Lemme say the new storyline, which started up about a year ago, took some getting used to, as it was much more low-key and artsy than what had gone before. But, the build up is worth it, as the climax at the end knocked my socks off. (referring to the battle royale tween Hulk and The Abomination in the next-to-most recent issue) The lastest issue starts to set up something which looks just as cool if not K00LER! Check it out. Way better writing than all the X-book drivel. Anyway, I haven't seen the flick yet but am going to in about an hour. :)
At least and at last... by iamguthrie	Jun 20th, 2003 03:24:49 PM
I have to say, as the Alpha Geek in my small circle of slightly idiotic geek friends, I am rather disappointed in the action figures for this movie (I haven't seen the movie yet, but the toys are EVERYWHERE). I was hoping for a quality fast-food tie-in (the JLA at Burger was better than the first wave of figures from Mattel!). I've been poking about the Web, checking out the reviews (I may not agree with most of them, but they give some idea of the "normal people" perspective)...It seems that, when the movie has to justify itself as an action flick, people start touting its art-house pedigree, and when people start looking for art-house meaning, suddenly it's a comic-book movie. All I can say is "Man, I hope this doesn't suck." That's as intellectual as I can wax. Sorry. I am Guthrie.
Hulk: Worst Mavel Movie Ever by Shingledecker	Jun 20th, 2003 03:42:01 PM
I'm sorry, I always hate when people post multiple times saying the same fucking thing over and over so I promise this will be my last. I just still can't believe I've waited my whole life for a Hulk movie and I got this POS. I liked both X-Men 2 and Daredevil a lot, both were faithful (at least Daredevil was entertaining). There is nothing entertaining about the Hulk. Ang Lee was so intent on making a "serious film" that he forgot to let the fans have any fun. The best part of the movie? Mutant Poodle! I shit you not. There is a mutant Fifi in this POS movie. Jesus.
NotchJohnson is right - it's great but SPOILER! by Tom Whitaker	Jun 20th, 2003 03:54:57 PM
SPOILER! SPOILER! SPOILER! SPOILER! SPOILER! SPOILER! SPOILER! SPOILER! SPOILER! The last 5 minutes are very poor - the first time I've thought the CGI-is-like-watching-a-video-g ame criticism was true. But as for the rest, three freakin cheers.
I just watched the Hulk by Lance Turk	Jun 20th, 2003 04:06:03 PM
ZZZZzzzzz..... I should have downloaded it and saved myself the $3.75 my theater charges for matinees. Christ, that movie was a snore-a-thon.
Almost fell asleep by simongarth2001	Jun 20th, 2003 04:40:31 PM
I loved the hulk stuff.....kicked ass. but all the rest.....the slow ass pace, dark action pieces and just boring babble hurt the film for me. He wanted it to look like a comic come to life obviously, but failed to keep that child-like fan spirit of the comics. way too serious. The first hour sucked donkey scrod....soon as the hulk beet talbots ass in the house..it got kick ass......the ending sucked for me. too dark and difficult to understand what the fuck was clearly happening....felt like it was added in at the last second. Still, a high 6 or 7 out of 10. Gollum isn't so great to me now.
just saw the hulk by slade justice	Jun 20th, 2003 04:52:05 PM
what a load of shit. fuck ang lee. i think they forgot that THE HULK IS A COMIC BOOK ABOUT A GUY WHO WHEN ANGERED TURNS INTO A GIANT FUCKING GREEN BEAST!!!NOT A PYSCHODRAMA ABOUT MANS ENDLESS STRUGGLE WITH DUEL PYSCHOSIS OR WHATEVER THE FUCK. jesus, people were actually booing in the cinema I was in and I have never been to a movie were about %50 of the audience boo the screen. and yes the hulk looked shit too.
Where's the Hulk? by NidiaFan2002	Jun 20th, 2003 04:53:37 PM
This movie would be ten times better if the Hulk was dressed in his traditional red and yellow. Hulkmania is STILL Runnin' Wild!
HULK looks like it will blow green gamma chunks by NidiaFan2002	Jun 20th, 2003 04:58:14 PM
It just looks bad. From the bad CGI Hulk to Nick "Look like I just got out of rehab" Nolte's acting, this one looks like it's best saved for watching on HBO. While I'm sure the initial box office will be big, the word of mouth will kill it. It's funny because I've talked to a lot of casual fans and they all say the same thing, "That's not the Hulk I grew up on" i.e. Mr. Radio Shack Bill Bixby. Who knows, it may be a great film but so far the previews make it look like a bomb. By the way, Hulk 2 (if it gets made) should feature Hulk Hogan as the High Evolutionary, transforming animals into Hulkanimalmaniacs. "My Beast Brothers are gonna run wild on you brother!"
Well, this is how I see it.................. by ogonekenobi	Jun 20th, 2003 05:06:15 PM
I sure hope Gollum has a dick, because there are quite a few of you who are sucking it. Is this a Hulk talkback or a LOTR chat on AOL? If I had one dollar for every set of finger-cuffs on this site, I would be a rich fucking man! OGONE HAS SPOKEN!!!!
Weta's Gollum and ILM's Hulk by Shaner Jedi	Jun 20th, 2003 05:11:40 PM
I have to say the animation of both is superb and equal. The rendering is another issue. If you look at both films, they have different color schemes. TTT has a blue-tint to the cinematography and Gollum fits into that world fine. The Hulk however is largely in braod daylight. In fact, the weakest shots, IMO, were the night shots of the Hulk. As for performance, well The Hulk doesn't have a word of dialogue. Everything has to be conveyed either through his actions, his expressions, or through other characters. This the Hulk did very well. Gollum had a lot of weight to his character due to the nature of the story. His was a more dramatic performance. The Hulk's was more like a kid throwing a tantrum. ILM and Weta have great animators, many of whom have worked at each facility or others and are friends. The industry has a lot of grat work, really great work. All you people saying "Gollum looked real and the Hulk looked fake" need to give it up. Both accomplishments are brilliant. It's an effects evolution now, not revolution.
Gollum, the Hulk, and the world they live it by runfoodrun	Jun 20th, 2003 05:16:13 PM
I haven't seen the Hulk, so I can only comment on what I have seen in trailers, etc. The Hulk is great CGI if he works in the world Ang Lee created for him. THis is why Gollum looks so good, he fits the PJ created for him. So does the Hulk fit the world that we can created for? By the way, LOTR bashers let up, both the films were very exciting and in many ways advanced cinema.
A cave troll perhaps? by Shaner Jedi	Jun 20th, 2003 05:17:45 PM
A troll? Here? Never! This place is full of trolls Fister. Where you been?
HULK A NOT by TomVee	Jun 20th, 2003 05:24:53 PM
Two positive reviews here, versus two negative reviews I have read in newspapers.
HULK 2: ELECTRIC BOOGALOO by IAMNOTAGEEK	Jun 20th, 2003 05:52:36 PM
Yo, this would be the shiznit, my nizzle.
It's Official by FrankCobretti	Jun 20th, 2003 05:59:18 PM
Ang Lee has yet to make a bad movie.
Ang Lee Defense by IAMNOTAGEEK	Jun 20th, 2003 06:00:22 PM
"Ride With The Devil" was the flick that made me believe Toby M. could pull off Peter Parker.
Two words... by Hy	Jun 20th, 2003 06:03:31 PM
...Hulk Poodle.
suffering insomnia..go see the hulk. by zathras34	Jun 20th, 2003 06:24:23 PM
Just got home from seeing the hulk today..and man oh man..I have had insomnia for a few days/weeks now..and I just got done with the hulk..and man it really help..I fell right to sleep...Everything you see the hulk do is in the previews..even the end. The only good thing about this entire movie..is Sam Elliot..and a great performance by nick nolte at the end. Sam elliot made this movie and gave the monster what it needed. and the mutant dogs..(that happened while I was adjusting my pillow, to go back to sleep.) So yeah..very dissapointing.. to sum up.. "Hulk not good...hulk bad..hulk ok in looks...and cgi..other than that..hulk resemble and effect like enema...." One thing though for A MAJOR PLUS..and that is "HULK GOT TO SPEAK.."...the highpoin of the movie.. Goodbye all..going out now that Im refreshed from my nap..
Bride Of Hulk by DukeDeMondo	Jun 20th, 2003 06:36:41 PM
God, i cant wait to see Hulk. i really cant. i havent been dying with anticipation for many movies this year, nope, not even Matrix Rehashed or whatever its called. I'm getting more excited with every talkbacker who slags this off for its crimes of, oh my dear Christ, having a STORY!!! CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT???? PSYCHOLOGICAL DEPTH?????????? Jesus Christ!!!! How will you cope? I mean, we all know 12 Angry Men would have been improved immeasurably had they all got up and ate each other alive. If i wanna see nothing but a stupid oaf running about smashing things, then i'll watch Jay Leno. that is NOT what the comics were about, or indeed still are about. anyhoo, what do i know?? sheesh its only a movie. but, i'm just home from my AA meeting (sober a month today!!!), and i came on here. i hope ang lee did a James Whale on this. Bride Of Hulk anyone??? When is the UK release date, by the way. All my local cinema has in new tonight is 2 Fast 2 Furious.
Saw the movie -- NOT GOOD by CGameProgrammer	Jun 20th, 2003 06:43:37 PM
SUMMARY: The movie had fairly exciting, though highly unplausible, fight scenes. But mediocre acting (in most cases) combines with REALLY REALLY ATROCIOUS CAMERAWORK to create a mediocre movie. WHAT IT DOES WELL: Nick Nolte, who plays Bruce's father, is by FAR the best actor in the movie. Pleasure to watch. Eric Bana, playing Bruce, is pretty bad for the first third of the movie but improves later. The fight scenes were also fun to watch; they were really the only reason to bother seeing the movie. They were very unrealistic though, such as helicopters that maneuver impossibly well, missiles that destroy solid rock cliffs, etc. WHAT IS DOES WRONG: First and foremost, the camerawork was embarrassingly amateurish! It made it really painful to watch. Here's a list of everything it does wrong: 1) Multiple views on the same screen. Constantly throughout the movie it shows you picture-in-picture with two, three, or four images onscreen at once. People cannot watch four things at once, or even two -- it's really distracting. Not only that, it moves them around and adds/removes viewports while you watch, which is extremely dumb and distracting. And here's the real killer -- often it shows you multiple images of the same person talking! Connelly would be talking about some boring thing and it would for some reason show you two views of her head. In another part of the movie, it showed four views of a single puff of smoke! WTF? 2) Bad camera switching. Even when it thankfully only has one image onscreen, it sometimes will switch from a view of someone talking to another view of the same person. This doesn't sound bad but it really is when you see it -- in a conversation, filmmakers only change the camera view when they're changing who you're looking at. Well when you see it you'll know what I mean. 3) Flickering. Sometimes it flickers between two images. Highly annoying. 4) Extreme close-ups. Minor but somewhat annoying -- like a soap opera, it would sometimes show extreme close-ups of someone's face for no reason. Anyway, other things wrong with the movie include mediocre acting -- Sam Elliott is bad as the general, Connelly is flat, etc. Also there's the unrealistic fight scenes that I mentioned... for example when fighting around the Golden Gate bridge they never cut off traffic from it; they just let all the cars go on it while fighters fire missiles all around it.
Dissent by FrankCobretti	Jun 20th, 2003 07:02:11 PM
I caught Hulk this afternoon. This movie had me from the very first frame. I loved the feel of this movie; I loved the scene changes and multiple perspectives; I loved the music; and I loved the acting. I've never read a Hulk comic and, frankly, had very little interest in this picture. I only went to see it because I knew that it was a Lee / Schamus creation, and the boys didn't let me down. This wasn't a comic book movie. This was a movie whose protagonist, coincidentally, had also been featured in a comic book. After a couple of Marvel disappointments (X2, DareDevil), it's great to see them post a success. This is the first movie I've seen this year that I just might see again.
HULK STINK!!! by JethroBodine	Jun 20th, 2003 07:09:31 PM
PUNY MOVIE!!!
Just saw it. Audience giggled an doutright laughed at the plot, by Red Giant	Jun 20th, 2003 07:11:31 PM
Ok here are specific comments. Final Fantasy had much more realism in both the look and motion of its digital actors, does that gies you a clue? I am not exagerating, some scenes are the same level of realism as Shrek. A few parts of scenes, like about 5-6 sec of the tank battle, I could maybe stop laughing at it. This movie just begs to laugh at it. For tehrecord, I really liked SPiderman overall, and it could have used some tweaks with the GG portions. I love LOTR in general. I thought cityscapes in SW new movies very good, scripts suck, acting very wooden (thanks George). Didn't pay to see Daredevil. This movie will absolutely piss off normal moviegoers. Only arthouse types purposely pretending to appluad this movie will clap, or maybe Hulk blind-devotion fans (there are always some fans of every movie like that). At no point in the movie does Hulk approach Gollum, so I don't know where those reports come from (fanboys?). The leaping in the desert wil make you laugh outloud, not even close to realistic motion. ILM really botched this up bigtime. I don't know what they were thinking. And the SCREEN WIPE SHIT needs to go. You will laugh until you cry at the faux-artistic b.s. to go with the boring, smarmy dialogue. Sorry I need to stop now, the more I think of this movie the more upset I get at it. I doubt anyone will see it twice, maybe once out of curiosity. Lat time I got this feeling of "How the hell can they make, edit and release shit luke this" was AOTC and Alien Resurrection.
Ang Lee is the Sexiest Tomboy Beanpole by Evil Chicken	Jun 20th, 2003 07:14:03 PM
Hulk Smash? Well, yeah, for the most part. Spoilers Ahead... Proceed at own risk. I was a little scared when I first saw the Hulk's face. I was scared because I thought that the CGI naysayers might have had a point. To ILM's credit, this is one of the only times that the viewer can say to themselves that the Hulk looked like a computer animation. ILM has succeeded in making a 15-foot tall, angry green guy look real. Some of the water effects, as it drips off of the Hulk's body are shear art; due to the fact that it looks real instead of appearing to be digitally rendered. Before I make this next point, please indulge me in saying that I love Ang Lee and his vision of how to make a story real. That being said, the whole comic panel thing was a bit overused. At times this overuse of the panels takes the viewer out of the film. This is not to say that the whole movie misses the mark, there was some great stuff there. I loved Hulk vs. the tanks. It was straight out of the comics and onto the screen. Hulk jumping around the countryside was way cool and the long fall back to Earth from the plane was a nice touch as well. Oh, and having Stan and Lou together was an excellent idea! Random thought. Does Bruce's father do what he does in the end to get stronger or to, ultimately, save his son from the horror that he has wrought? Bottom line for this fanboy, Hulk Good; not as good as X2, but good nonetheless. I'll probably pick up the DVD around Christmas.
I JUST SAW THE HULK MOVIE AND IT FUCKEN RULED by Rcamacho2278	Jun 20th, 2003 07:27:47 PM
you know I saw this movie this afternoon at the Zigfield theatre. The best sound you can find, the best quality. This movie is simple the most amazing, and most action packed movie this summer. I Cannot imagine ANYBODY looking at this movie and being displeased with it. if you are, then you should consider why you watch movies in the first place. I saw one female critic say that the character of bruce banner was dull and dry and that why didnt the hulk have anything to say, Reviews like that remind me of the SHIT that came out of harry and morietys mouth about the matrix reloaded and other movies. The film is outstanding and a testament to how far cinema has come. See the movie, Enjoy it, Dont look at how fucken ridiculous it is that the beast can jump or survive a fall from the stratosphere. Dont think about how much better it "coulda" been if this or that was in place, DONT. just enjoy the fucken movie, it ruled.
Boring with no warmth by Sam Bones	Jun 20th, 2003 08:02:21 PM
I so wanted to love this film. It properly respects the HULK comics that it smashes forth from. It treats the story and its characters seriously. But this film is so humorless and slow that it takes forever to get to what you paid your money to see. And despite all that slow build-up you don't really care for anyone. Yeah, you feel a little for Betty Ross but that's it. I believe this film is a colossal mistake in how it choose to adapt the original source material. I can't believe I'm saying this but I prefer the Bill Bixby TV series over this. After watching SPIDER-MAN and the X-MEN movies I couldn't wait to go see them a second time. With this HULK film I doubt I'll even sit through a showing on cable. I'd rather read the comic book.
2nd that->Blade II was waaaaaaaay better than Daredevil by Ayii	Jun 20th, 2003 08:33:48 PM
I'd just like to second Dinobot_x's post about Blade II being waaaaaaaay better than Daredevil. The fight sequences in Blade II were way more fun to watch than the ones in Daredevil. Dinobot's comments are bang on, that park scene in DD is terrible and the rest of movie is weak because of it. It's interesting reading the feedback on all the comparisons of the Marvel films. Some people love Daredevil and hate X2...can you fucking believe that? Daredevil was mediocre, and so is the Hulk (though a like the Hulk a smidge more).
I hope not. by AlwaysThere	Jun 20th, 2003 08:47:11 PM
Hulk 2 would be even worse.
IF YOU DONT LIKE THIS MOVIE YOU....ARE A FUCKING RETARD. AND IF by juxtapoze	Jun 20th, 2003 08:58:07 PM
i dont get some of these haters. whaty exactly do they want? i just dont get it, who wouldnt be happy about a movie like this.even if your not a fan.
Bullshit: Daredevil was MUCH better than Blade 2 by Shingledecker	Jun 20th, 2003 08:58:11 PM
Blade 2 was a POS compated to Blade. Daredevil was entertaining, but not my favorite comic movie (that would be X-Men 2). But rest assured--both Blade 2 and Daredevil are better than the green shitfest that is the Hulk!!!
I can now say I've walked out of a movie before by Robert_G_Durant	Jun 20th, 2003 09:00:25 PM
I love comics. I love comic movies, even when they're bad. I like CGI. And I went in not expecting a great movie, but cautiously optimistic. So why did I hate The Hulk? The story was haphazardly thrown together, throwing half an hour's worth of backstory at you in like five or ten minutes. Not in a glimpsing way, like fragmented memories. More like the stoned kid running the register at Burger King trying to tell you about the Hulk's origin. "Like, there's this guy, and uh, he was a scientist, and he did stuff to himself, and he had a kid, and the kid got fucked up cause of the stuff his dad did...". The acting was either phoned in or embarassing, depending on the actor. If you weren't thrilled by the effects in the trailers, be afraid. They showed you the best stuff. The audience giggled when Bruce turned into the Hulk. There's an embarassing scene where the Hulk jumps on a fighter jet, and the pilot carries him up into the atmosphere, where the Hulk grows frost on his cheeks and falls asleep, sliding off. Words cannot describe how fake this was. The cutscenes in Final Fantasy were much more realistic than this. The jet looked like it was from a Playstation One game, and The Hulk looked like Shrek in the middle of a snowball fight. The film was building up to a final battle with Hulk versus the Absorbing Man, but just as Banner arrived at some military base at night, my girlfriend asked me if I wanted to just go home, and for the first time in my life, I said yes. I made it all the way through Blair Witch 2, Jason X, and Cop and A Half, but I couldn't survive a full showing of this film. Avoid at all costs!
Hulk smash? Good. Hulk have bad feelings about his father? SUCKS by XTheCrovvX	Jun 20th, 2003 09:04:33 PM
Since I'm tired, I'll keep it quick....the things people were worried about...the Hulk's trailer CGI, the atrocious looking Hulk dogs, Nick Nolte looking like Doc Emmett Brownafter a season on Oz.....they turned out FINE....the Hulk looks and moves great, the emotion was in the eyes, the Hulk dog scene OWNS, and Nick Nolte plays crazy good...in addition, Jennifer Connelly can do no wrong, Eric Bana is a pretty damn good Bruce Banner, EVERY scene where the big green guy gets to do what he does best is downright asskicking fun, and I personally liked the comic book panel editing....but, the problem is that Ang Lee drops the ball in so many ways with this movie its a sin. And while I'm actually pretty optimistic that now, whoever handles Hulk 2 now has leeway to have a shitload of fun with the character, suffice to say, the winner, and still comic book movie champion for now is X2. I'll go into detail some other time. Im gonna go have a burger. Revolution is my name.
It's just like the A-Team...notice how nobody dies in this movie by biltbuckley	Jun 20th, 2003 10:36:00 PM
It's just like the A-Team...notice how nobody dies in this movie? The Hulk throws people 1/2 a mile, through the walls of a house, crashing helicopters...But no one dies? Pathetic P.C. crap.
Please, no more Asorbman/Dad by AlwaysThere	Jun 20th, 2003 11:43:03 PM
Thats was one of the manyh things that sucked about this movie.
can someone explain this to me... by chrisyost	Jun 21st, 2003 12:32:50 AM
SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER!!! Can someone please explain to me what in the world went on at the end of the HULK? I am refering to the David Banner vs. Bruce Banner incident that occured right after the biting of the power cord thing. Was David Banner the Absorbing Man? What the heck did he turn into when they were in the water. Does a nuclear blast kill David but not Bruce? Wouldn't the nuclear blast be absorbed by the absorbing man? Someone please help. My email is rayost@adelphia.net
I saw it tonight and I'm mixed..... by axelfoley	Jun 21st, 2003 01:05:39 AM
Believe me when I tell you that I wanted to like this movie so much. I'm not a fanboy, but I did grow up on Spider-Man comic books and the Hulk television series. I'm the type of guy that if there's a comic book movie from eith DC or Marvel, I'm going to see it. It would bring me back to my childhood and allow me to witness my favorite fictional characters to be seen in action. The point of my statement is that I didn't have a problem with the movie because I nitpicked the shit out of it such as "Where's Rick Jones? And why is Banner's dad such a loon?" I did, however, find fault with this movie in the sense that I felt Ang Lee tried too hard to make this good. What do I mean? The tone relies too much on making the film transition like a cinematic comic book, complete with split screens and poised boxes showing reaction of characters as an afterfact.....presumably. On the performance side, Eric Bana was exceptional. He did resemble the character, and Jennifer Connelly was ok as Betty "I'll get thru to him" Ross. The single best performance was not Nick Nolte, who I personally hated in the flick. It was Sam Elliot. Elliot had a serious demeanor I have never seen him in. He played a mean, yet caring Ross. Not to read to much into his character but the guy was torn apart between doing what he felt was his duty and being a likeable father to his daughter. The pacing of the movie I also had problems with because they was pointless dialogue that just went on and on. The Hulk itself looked like Shite-R-Man and His Amazing Friends...WE ALL KNOW THAT. But, during the movie the CGI grew on me. What turned me away was his leaping like he was fucking Doomsday from Death of Superman and also how he would be 9 feet one minute and then 15 the next transition. Whatever. The action I would give a high B. The chemistry between Bana and Connelly was very average. The one credible performance, I think, was Sam Elliot's. I hated Nick Nolte in this movie. I hated his character even more. I just hope people do like this movie, but has Marvel struck out? I sure hope not.
Connelly's Bosoms by theBigE	Jun 21st, 2003 01:14:22 AM
Hey, I thought the movie wasn't too bad. The first hour dragged, too much BS about repressed memories and inner demons, but the fight scenes were great and the Hulk himself looked good. All of you namby-pamby comic geeks that want to quibble small details need to get another hobby. .............................. ...... That said, whatever happened to Jennifer Connelly's breasts? Remember the Rocketeer, or that film when she was locked in the mall with the geeky teen? She was stacked back then!!! What happened?
Grimloch - TTT by Clemson_SC	Jun 21st, 2003 01:16:25 AM
G- You know its one thing to try and criticize TTT - it certainly had its flaws. Yeah its #9 on the all-time money list but your definitley right, it probably is a flaming pile of poo right? But whats really got me laughing and inspired to post and fester in your cesspool of ignorance was your brilliant comment earlier that Tolkien was a bad writer who couldn't create characters...this is one of the funniest things ive heard in some time. I fear you must have missed that day on writing back at GED night school. To say that Tolkien is a bad writer is just so incredibly ignorant. In case you missed the memo, Tolkien's LOTR was voted the greatest novel of the 21st century. And no, your not allowed to compare Tolkien to the Maxim article your life partner read to you last week in bed. Keep reading, we're all here to support you - you can do it, any day now you can get that GED - GO Grim GO!
I smell sourgrapes by Lavaman	Jun 21st, 2003 01:31:26 AM
The people on this talk back that are saying that the CGI Hulk looks fake are so fucking jealous that The Hulk is Gollum's equal, if not better, that they are lashing out with retarded comments. Some idiots thought Gollum was proof that ILM has been dethroned and therefore George Lucas(he started and owns ILM) has been dethroned. Face it, Gollum's 15 minutes are up. And any Fanboy who disagrees can go fuck themselves.
This is sad by UberSpectre	Jun 21st, 2003 01:55:58 AM
Ok, I just saw this movie toight and it has been the best movie I've seen so far this summer.... For everyone dissing this movie because it was "boring" wow stop seeing movies please because your retarted... I am sorry that story plot and real characters are boring too you, then why see any movies and just wait next week for Charlie's Angels Full Gayness and get a movie where you get nothing but stupid bull shit for like 80 minutes... Also for all you guys saying Hulk CGI sucked, well what exactly were you expecting to be better? It was much better then the CGI Neo/truck exploshine scene from Reloaded... Also if you guys want to diss movies, don't go after this movie, because the Hulk was fun... If you want to bash a movie go after Legally Blonde 2 Red White and PRETTY STUPID... P.S. Punisher teaser trailer pissed me off
HULK Good - But... by CHEWBLACCA	Jun 21st, 2003 02:16:40 AM
I got to see (the)HULK on Tuesday and have had a few days to think about it.First the Misses:and this is a big one-I NEVER REALLY CARED.Not for Banner.Not for Betty.They never seemed to come alive.Only Thunderbolt Ross seem fully realized.Big ups to Sam Elliot.The film got off to a slow start.This didn't bother me all that much.But for a movie that appears to be marketed towards kids,it takes too long to see our hero.I think anyone under 18 would be bored shitless for the first half of THE HULK.Now the Hits:The dessert chase ruled this world and the next.THAT is the Hulk I grew up with.When Hulk is swatting off missiles and hurling junk at helicopters my heart lept.Saving the Golden Gate Bridge was a nice heroic touch.The last scene was cool.Some might groan that Banner didn't change,but I liked it.Overall I dug it.The mandatory sequel should be faster paced seeing as we've gotten the origin out of the way.Unless we have to go through it all over again to explain the Grey Hulk.
daredevil vs blade 2 by Lelon	Jun 21st, 2003 02:19:33 AM
Daredevil AND Blade 2 are the mistakes of this crop of comic book movies. They are better left forgotten, and we shouldn't argue over which pile of shit smells worse. The Hulk is different, its like a comic opera. Constant crazy colored swirls, meaningless monolouges. The plot is worse then "eh" its just bad, but the visuals are amazing.
WHAT IF:THE MOVIE by zathras34	Jun 21st, 2003 02:23:13 AM
I have finally figuered it out..after reading more reviews on here and people who said this was the awsome movie and ang lee should be applauded..and praised and given they're second born children..should go make a psychiatry appointment immeadiatly.(And yes I know I am not the best typist)..But on that not I know why reviewers have said ANY GOOD THINGS ABOUT THIS MOVIE IS BECAUSE..they suckered into a wrong movie...Im sorry people and lovers of this hulk movie..but this is not a hulk film..this is "What If:the movie" What if they made a movie so bad that only a hand full of people loved it.. what if they made a movie that is not hulk..just a hulk in a parralel universe for people who have no taste in theyre comic book movies..and want somethin and all things incorrect and boring... another title..and finale title should be... WHAT IF:THE HULK WENT TO THE WESTMINSTER MUTANT DOG SHOW".. Brake out the Mutant kibbles and bits... So for all those who loved the film..we who are the loyal to the main hulk..we will not find you in fault...for you are living in the world of "WHAT IF"...and we know that in our universe..Hulk sucked... and with shreck 2 coming out next year..."what if: shrek met hulk?" and if mike myers and the grunt team for the hulk are not available..let harry be the hulk (let him work out the stresses..and moriarity be shreck..and thus make waffles" WHAT IF: and thats why we did not get a true hulk movie...it was a what if.. a shame...
About Those Split Screens: by CHEWBLACCA	Jun 21st, 2003 02:24:57 AM
They were clearly meant to resemble a comic book.OK,so it came off sort of "24" at times.I still appreciate the intention.
HULK Ultimately Disappointing by Roboteer	Jun 21st, 2003 02:30:02 AM
It's hardly a disaster and it will still appeal to a large audience, but HULK is Marvel's weakest effort of their recent superhero releases. DAREDEVIL had its limits, but it was a small picture by comparison and there was no denying the screen chemistry of Ben and Jen (Garner). HULK can't even be mentioned with X-Men or Spidey. The CGI is good enough. That's not the problem. Ang Lee tries so hard to get us to care about these characters, but ultimately they remain distant. The film seems to get sidetracked on tedious details and misses touching the audience. Bana plays to script as uninvolved and Connelly feels more pity than anything, once barely raising an eyebrow when she's told Bruce has to be destroyed. (If she doesn't care, then why should we?) Plus there's no romantic chemistry in the script or between the leads. The elder Banner and Ross barely break out of 2 dimensional characatures. Ironically, it is only the totally CGI inhuman character that's worth caring about and rooting for. He evokes sympathy if for no reason than he's the only one confusedly wondering how he wound up in this movie. The final battle was mostly a dizzy unecessary myopic mess. And rather than the standard comic book origin story, they throw in everything - radiation, mutated genes, and 'nanomeds'. As with so much of this film, more is less. We're so relieved to get away from the dour, uninvolving background story, that even the old slide show cartoon Hulk would have been welcome. Ang Lee's judgment is usually hard to second guess, but it seemed as if from the beginning he was trying to push a square peg into a round hole, and just kept pounding harder when it didn't fit. I don't mind him having his own vision of the Hulk, but he seemed to be clueless how to get us to share it and fit it into popular culture, or an entertainment format even. This is one time they maybe should have stuck to doing a popcorn movie. Hopefully, Hulk won't damage the franchises to come, other than re-think giving a director too much budget and creative control for his own good. Two stars out of four seems fair. We'll have to wait a year now to see if the magic returns.
All this whining makes me like it better by Vern	Jun 21st, 2003 02:50:22 AM
I agree that some parts of the first hour are too slow. And the first appearance of "hulkman" or whatever he's called when he turns green - it wasn't as spectacular and scary as it should've been. But in the desert Ang Lee really lets loose and anyone who wants a fun action summer movie and yet didn't at least enjoy Hulk fighting the tanks and planes might as well just go down on the shotgun right now because you cannot be satisfied with anything. Still, I'm not surprised people didn't like it. I admire that Ang Lee took this comic strip and the studio's money and made a movie that -
Knew this would happen by Syd Mead	Jun 21st, 2003 03:04:36 AM
It's turned into a love/hate movie with no riding the fence. Fine by me and I will check the whole mess out soon. What bothers me on the surface is not the CGI. It's the design of the Hulk. The Mountain Dew colored Hulk doesn't even look like the Hulk. His face looks mis-shapened. Like how Jerry Lewis looks now with weird fat cheeks. Lee's Hulk looks over weight and constipated with eyes that have that Banjo-Boy from Deliverence feel. Like he has a load of shit in his purple pants. Now if you think that doesn't matter than compare the crappy American Godzilla to the original. I'll waste my money on this Hulk for a matinee but I'm not walking in happy...
Hulk smash....I think by scarletspyder	Jun 21st, 2003 03:07:52 AM
Could hulk have spoken a little bit more. Sure, I loved "puny human" and that bit at the end about David wanting power and taking it. "Hulk smash" and more "puny humans" would have been something for the fans. I was a little surprised that they had David banner be the absorbing man....C'mon..that should have been Creel and saved for a sequel. I could have easily have seen David being Maestro (For those who don't know this is a future hulk that is incredibly evil bwahahahaha) He had the look, and the fact that he went through the exact process of "creating" Hulk is more convincing. Plus is it would save a shit load of time travelling shit. very few films can survive a time travelling storyline. Ending a little confusing. Betty worked. Ross good. Talbot hahahahaha. Gamma Dogs excellent (best fight sequence). no rick jones. no doc samson which was good. Now heres something you may not have thought of. The guy that got trapped in the gamma chamber with bruce...never died...just got sent away....possible leader or abomination???????? hinted at sequel right there. Good film. X2 still rules all. Punisher trailer looks good (simple seen of punisher killing dolph lundgren) And people please stop comparing this to LOTR. No shit it was CG. I read one more LOTR comparison I will renact Jay and silent bob strike back...you know what i mean.....snoochtothemuthafucki nsnootch
DO YOU FUCKEN MORONS KNOW WHAT A BAD MOVIE IS!?!??! by Rcamacho2278	Jun 21st, 2003 03:53:02 AM
Bio Dome was a bad movie, Street Fighter was a bad movie, Dumb and Dumberer was a fucken REALLY bad movie... so why would people go to see summer blockbusters only to come out and say it sucked? first off its too late, they got your money, and if you really didnt enjoy it then maybe you should find another hobby to spend your money on, or maybe just not see movies that you know are blockbusters. Second, The movie is what it is, A comic book adaptation. You cant please everyone. Spiderman tried and it was close to pleasing people who knew little about spiderman and hardcore fans but still many were left wanting more. Bottom line is mArvel is doing a hell of a job bringing these characters to life. MAny of you may have felt that the backstory to the hulk was unecessary but it takes time to develop a character, to truly feel and care for a character, if you arent interested in character development then see Charlies Angels or Tomb Raider. To believe that hulk was just a creature of Rage with no Origin of where that rage came from would cause all you fucken doofy critics to dog that as well . I Would like to see how you personally would have come up with a better way to tell the tale of the hulk... the movie is what it is. For those who say the CGI is fake looking, Like someone said, go back to the fucken 80s when graphics didnt matter to tell a story. Would you rather some 15ft saban power ranger guy in a green suit destroy little toy tanks? the people who didnt like the hulk, do US and YOURSELVES a favor, stay away from movies like this in the future so we dont hear your bitching.
You HULK haters are all children! The HULK is the best comic boo by Antoninus	Jun 21st, 2003 04:31:07 AM
I loved HULK!! Repression was the name of the game, and that's what the first 45 minutes of this great film was, a REPRESSED action movie. I bet Ang Lee was giggling at all you action movie buff retards squirming in your seats waiting for some sort of mayhem. He he. Go Ang Lee! Way to not pander to the idiotic mainstream masses and give them a Hulk in the first five minutes! The film itself paralleled the plight of puny Banner, REPRESSED RAGE and FURY. But when the Hulk finally bursts forth, look out! (And this is the best CGI I've seen since Jurassic Park, by the way). And those crazy wipes and frame-within-frames! The best I've seen since a French New Wave era Truffaut film! All you smooth brained beanies who thought this film was boring need to go back to your DVD's of the very childish Spider-Man. HULK is the strongest one there is! Ang Lee has accomplished something very difficult here. He's done what Alan Moore did for the Swamp Thing. He's done what Grant Morrison did for JLA. He's done what Tim Burton did for Batman. Ang Lee has taken material whose origins lay in pulpy poppish comic books, and transformed it into art. 'Nuff said.
One Green Turd by penguinblooz	Jun 21st, 2003 05:46:41 AM
I used to read the Hulk, Sider-man, Fantastic Four and Daredevil. I saw the Hulk on TV every week. I also love Ang Lee's movies. When I came to watch Hulk, I knew the CGI might be a problem. It wasn't. The direction and acting and script, however was. Too much exposition, incoherent character development (one flashback is all you need,) hammy acting (Josh Lucas, turn in your SAG card,) unintentional laughter which was good considering the lack of humor throughout, seizure-inducing split screens, boring scenes (can you speak up?) Often, when the scene dragged, the slit screens would pop up to distract us. But th audience I was with was not fooled. People were laughing, or worse, asleep. And these were teens! A few people even left. I feel bad for Ang Lee. The last movie that was hyped like this, was Godzilla. Everyone was expecting something great and there was the hype. It opened modestly for a blockbuster but then faded. Ang Lee moves from one genre to another anyway, not alwasy successful. His western with Jewel - not so great. Maybe years later, the Hulk will get itas kudo as a cult classic. If you see it, go to a matinee or something. This movie is no Spider-Man.
CGGameProgrammer: by SmutGirl	Jun 21st, 2003 06:43:19 AM
I believe what you thought was bad is actually the "editing," not the "camera work."
Bad movie - save your money by Jabbathenutt	Jun 21st, 2003 06:43:48 AM
Veeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrryyyyyyy slow. The 15 minutes that the army chased the Hulk were great. Much of the movie was bad however. Good acting throughout, just a bad movie. The hulk dog scene was poorly done, for example. All the action in that scene is very blurry, very hard to see. disappointing.
HULK SMASH! and yes, he does kick some very big non-believer's a by loc	Jun 21st, 2003 06:59:02 AM

HULK SMASH! and yes, he does kick some very big non-believer's a by loc	Jun 21st, 2003 07:03:44 AM
Hulk is the da man. Not Yoda but Hulk. The best CGI I've seen in a long time. Both Hulk and Gollum are pretty good but like they said it's the eyes that give it away. Anyways whoever is reading this, let me just tell you that the Hulk is a very good movie. It's the most serious of all the comic book movies. I hope you enjoy it. P.S. I wanna know, who does his dad turns out to be? Whoever knows please post it because I'm not really familiar with the comic book but still loved it.
Sigh . . . by IAmMovieMaster	Jun 21st, 2003 07:47:51 AM
Hulk was just an average movie. Not a classic but not an abomination (like Matrix Retarded). And Daredevil was better than Blade 2. There you go.
Sigh . . . by IAmMovieMaster	Jun 21st, 2003 07:49:54 AM
Hulk was just an average movie. Not a classic but not an abomination (like Matrix Retarded). And Daredevil was better than Blade 2. There you go.
HULK BASHERS!!! by adamb	Jun 21st, 2003 07:57:52 AM
Jesus i get tired of the repetitive hulk bashers on here.. it seems that all they do is moan that the movie dragged on in places, mmmm its called developing the story!! It seems people just wanted to watch 2 hours non stop of the Hulk on a rampage. well it doesnt work like that guaranteed the sequel will be CGI overload and you will see a lot more HULK. I mean look at X2 compared with X1 it expanded its action sequences but i still thought they were a little lightweight, Wolverine and Nightcrawler saved the film, all the others just had cameos. Oh and dont get me started on matrix reloaded, sure great film but bad cgi, bad storyline, and tacked on fight sequences that never really felt like they were relevant to the story, and damn if you think the HULK dragged well i was catching plenty of zzzz's through THE ARCHITECTS droning speech!!. Ang lee makes artistic looking movies and i think he takes the hulk to a new level in marvel comic conversions. Some Gay fanboys dont realise how much we have progressed from the days of batman and dare i say it spawn!!. get a life and go back to sucking a wookies genitals, or jerking off over bullet time.
Jon Quixote, that was an amazing review. by Alpha-X	Jun 21st, 2003 07:58:53 AM
I don't think I've ever seen someone honestly look at a movie for what it's supposed to be in my life. Too many "critics" at the papers, magazines and shows just don't seem happy unless Glenn Close is shoved up their ass. I'm also glad you didn't take the path of the ignorant with cliche' lines, like "Hulk Smash!", or "This muvy sux ballz!". Maybe there's still hope for the world that a true reviewer will rise from the multitudes of men to lead us.
Jon Quixote, that was an amazing review. by Alpha-X	Jun 21st, 2003 08:03:47 AM
I don't think I've ever seen someone honestly look at a movie for what it's supposed to be in my life. Too many "critics" at the papers, magazines and shows just don't seem happy unless Glenn Close is shoved up their ass. I'm also glad you didn't take the path of the ignorant with cliche' lines, like "Hulk Smash!", or "This muvy sux ballz!". Maybe there's still hope for the world that a true reviewer will rise from the multitudes of men to lead us.
I know that Moriarty already did the "pirate movie bashing" thin by Alpha-X	Jun 21st, 2003 08:10:54 AM
That could have been memorable.
Hulk Review by vikingkitty	Jun 21st, 2003 08:40:35 AM
I watched Hulk last night, and I was pleasantly surprised. Better than Spider-Man, and light years ahead of Daredevil.
Best Marvel Movie Yet by Veidt	Jun 21st, 2003 09:08:22 AM
I'm not surprised this doozy has left some viewers scratching their heads but I loved every frame of it. Ang Lee really delivered something great and it's first time I've seen live action that could be described as "Kirby-esque". Beautiful stuff.
Kong33's HULK review. by KONG33	Jun 21st, 2003 10:30:01 AM
The HULK is a very unbalanced movie, I found the film to go on a little long in some areas, repeating others... The references (or homages) to 'Frankenstein' and 'King Kong' are a little annoying for anyone old enough to have seen those original scenes done better. I liked the acting, Josh Lucas as Talbot was quite annoying though, as the traditional human bad guy in it for the $. Also the actors in the flashback scenes setting up our story were really weak. I was actually disappointed with what Eric Bana as Bruce Krenzzler was given to do. I was one of the few who seemed to enjoy Nick Nolte's take on his character. The dialogue and plot are kind of lumpy, it could have benefitted from some editing. We could have benefitted seeing how HULK reacted to civilians or what news coverage was like, to establish the scope of a giant green monster tearing through San Fran. The Hulk is actually a lot more thoughtful than in the books, he's gentle around Betty and only lashing out at people he should be angry at. Not much misplaced rage at all. So much of this was plagued by short-sightedness or bad execution. The CGI is really bad in spots, but I was fine w/ most of it, though the audience was laughing at the effects. I kept hearing the word 'fake' being whispered around me, and I can't exactly say that description is incorrect. There is a cool stylistic flourish that reminds you of a comic book, but it is repeated in boring ways later on and becomes irritating. The desert town was gorgeous as well as one all-too brief scene in a dream, Jellyfish are swimming on Mars atmosphere, that is an incredible Dali-esque look. I have no idea what happened in the end with David Banner, I wish there was more to his character than simply a guy who was put away for 30 years. I would have liked to have seen an example of David beating on his wife and child in that small brick room of theirs. I never took Bruce's early childhood seriously and the Hulk didn't seem like such a bad existence, where was Bruce or Betty's concern for civilian lives or property damage !?? I was really disappoined until HULK took to the desert, from there it looked like Ang Lee had been given all of Universal's cash. Having seen those scenes, I can now see just how atrocious the marketing campaign has been in comparison. I loved the movie only for that one scene which brought to life the character for a moment. I won't need the smallscreen DVD, but seeing that on the big screen was worth 6 dollars, it just could have been worth more. They'll probably blame poor box office on piracy but I'm sure with all those tie-in deals they'll hardly care. "Go see: THE HULK, sponsored by the government of Mexico!"
Hulk....BAD!!!!!! by Boogey	Jun 21st, 2003 10:33:12 AM
I love fantasy movies, hell I love MOVIES. Super hero movies are my greatest love, but this piece of garbage should not have been allowed to live. Look..the CGI's where incredible and if they would release a DVD of just them I would be happy. The story was just stupid, I grew up on comics and my hopes have been met lately with X-men, Daredevil & Spiderman. These have remained as true to the books as could be expected, but the "Hulk" give me a break. This was some idiots version and in my mind thats vandilism!
Two of the best damn reviews I have read for HULK yet, guys! by Dog Of Mystery	Jun 21st, 2003 10:58:03 AM
Better than mine, too. Even though mine was written at five in the morning with no caffeine in my system. No, I'm not gonna post a link to it. Those that know where Scorched Planet is have already read it. Those that don't...well, isn't that more of a blessing than anything else?
An Unholy Mess by krondinelli	Jun 21st, 2003 11:00:35 AM
Let me say that I am not a drooling fan boy and I stopped collecting comic books years ago. The Hulk was never one of my favorite characters, so my problems with this movie are not of the "they messed with the formula" variety, but I can't understand how anyone with two eyes can't see that this movie is a god-awful mess. Just a colossal, tremendous, tedious misfire. I read that upon completion Ang Lee was going off the deep end because he thought he made a stinker, and then he watched the final film, edited and color-timed and he was "proud". That's just PR spin. There was probably a studio suit putting a gun to his head because only a seriously deranged person would be proud of this. The fun of the Hulk, the intrigue, is that we are supposed to share in Bruce Banner's exhileration AS WELL as his fear of his transformation. At no point in the movie did I feel any of the sense of wonder, awe and terror that a person would feel if he were going through these transformations. And the whole repressed anger thing? OK, I get it (a little stale and Freudian) but I get it - but Banner didn't seem to have any anger at the beginning of the movie, and then all of a sudden he's this angry guy. The editing was awful. Almost film-school amateurish at times. A close look at a good comic book panel would reveal nice, balanced yet dynamic compositions; these were almost random and looked like a bad corporate presentation. On top of that, they served to take you right out of the action. The fades and wiped were stock Final Cut Pro crap that even a first-year film student would avoid. I got the feeling that they edited this movie traditionally, realized how turgid and boring it was, and then added that stuff in as a last minute attempt to make it interesting (Note: It didn't work). And Nolte! Oh my god. It's like he walked right out of that coked-up drunken mug shot and gave one of the most laughable, hammy, downright embarrassing performances of his whole career. The part one Bruce first Hulks out and jumps through the roof, and the camera zooms through the hole and Noltes on the floor like a crippled kid without crutches, shaking and saying "my bruce" I winced at how awful and just plain WRONG it was. The acting all around was atrocious, and you could tell there was a complete disconnect between the live action movie and the CGI action. Like two wholly different movies. Overall, the film is way too long. I am not even going to get into the mutant poodle (Best-In-Show gone Resident Evil). The ending is one of the most incomprehansable FX driven clunkers in all of history, and that final speech given by crazy Nolte on the platform in the hangar was like a theater production put on in the basement of an Alcoholics Anonymous meeting house. All around just an atrocious mess. That's all I have to say.
Age by FrankCobretti	Jun 21st, 2003 11:09:41 AM

Age Breakdown by FrankCobretti	Jun 21st, 2003 11:11:39 AM
I'd be interested in seeing a demographic breakdown of reactions to HULK. I don't know if I'd have liked this movie at 15. At 35, however, I love it. Is Hulk's problem that it is a comix film for grownups?
No more posts? by Sam Bones	Jun 21st, 2003 11:39:54 AM
Is this film so bad that AICN readers have stopped posting? Sheesh! You'd think there would be more posts about it.
So how much did the critic get paid? by crapulent2k1	Jun 21st, 2003 11:56:25 AM
Are you kidding me? The critic digs Hulk? He has got to be kiddin' right? The movie gave me a major headache. There's no plot in this movie! The visuals are too cartoonish. It's so obvious that the CGI Hulk can't act. There's no chemistry between Bana and Connelly. The movie boggles the mind and moves from past to present haphazardly. The entire movie is ridiculous. This isn't an intelligent film at all. It's a film for the mentally impaired. I really tried to suspend my disbelief but I just can't. We all know that a creature as heavy as an elephant can't leap that high. The Hulk is just too heavy to be leaping that high. What about the Banner's trousers? Is he using Spandex? During his first transformation, Bruce's pants stayed on. His shirt was ripped during his transformation but his pants did not come off. So what gives? During the desert chasing scene, the Hulk's pants still stayed in place. Come on, he's fifteen feet tall! How come his pants didn't get ripped? Can't the computer programmers make a naked Hulk? I know it's supposed to be PG-something and nudeness is a no-no but can't they make it more realistic? Whatever! My 2 hours were wasted. I should have knitted a shirt. That would have been more productive than having to sit through the entire movie. The movie was pure torture. Thank you Ang Lee!!!
Hulk disappointed by huxleyhf1932	Jun 21st, 2003 12:05:23 PM
The Hulk looked fine, but what was wrong was, as usual, the physics of it. Those three-mile leaps looked silly on film, and how can Hulk throw a tank across the desert then have trouble lifting the cannon he ripped off the top of another one. At least Nolte and Bana didn't overact in that last meeting before their muddled, hard-to-follow and ultimatly pointless letdown of a climactic battle.
How much is the critic being paid? by crapulent2k1	Jun 21st, 2003 12:06:41 PM
Are you kidding me? The critic digs Hulk? He has got to be kiddin' right? The movie gave me a major headache. There's no plot in this movie! The visuals are too cartoonish. It's so obvious that the CGI Hulk can't act. There's no chemistry between Bana and Connelly. The movie boggles the mind and moves from past to present haphazardly. The entire movie is ridiculous. This isn't an intelligent film at all. It's a film for the mentally impaired. I really tried to suspend my disbelief but I just can't. We all know that a creature as heavy as an elephant can't leap that high. The Hulk is just too heavy to be leaping that high. What about the Banner's trousers? Is he using Spandex? During his first transformation, Bruce's pants stayed on. His shirt was ripped during his transformation but his pants did not come off. So what gives? During the desert chasing scene, the Hulk's pants still stayed in place. Come on, he's fifteen feet tall! How come his pants didn't get ripped? Can't the computer programmers make a naked Hulk? I know it's supposed to be PG-something and nudeness is a no-no but can't they make it more realistic? Whatever! My 2 hours were wasted. I should have knitted a shirt. That would have been more productive than having to sit through the entire movie. The movie was pure torture. Thank you Ang Lee!!!
The audience actually threw personal items at the screen... by Bpoint2008	Jun 21st, 2003 12:09:29 PM
This movie was so bad Michael Jackson refused to take his own kids to see it much less the kids he supposedly molested. Ang Lee - bad choice. The Hulk is not Shakespeare. The Hulk IS not greek tragedy. If you want to make a greek tragedy, fine, but this movie works best when it plays to the popcorn crowd. Jennifer "I had my breasts reduced so I could be a serious actor" never showed an ounce of chemistry with Eric Bananna. I am laying the blame on Eric Bananna. I am bitter she had the fat sucked out of her tits but the woman can act, although she suffers from the same disease as Madonna in that she likes to effect a bit of an english accent. Did I mention this movie was horrible? It is. The audience threw items at the screen at the end - word of mouth will kill this film. The CGI was fine. The bottom line is they should Hang Ang Lee. I do love how some people are "getting this film"...lol...your cinema IQ's astound me.
The audience actually threw personal items at the screen... by Bpoint2008	Jun 21st, 2003 12:14:08 PM
This movie was so bad Michael Jackson refused to take his own kids to see it much less the kids he supposedly molested. Ang Lee - bad choice. The Hulk is not Shakespeare. The Hulk IS not greek tragedy. If you want to make a greek tragedy, fine, but this movie works best when it plays to the popcorn crowd. Jennifer "I had my breasts reduced so I could be a serious actor" never showed an ounce of chemistry with Eric Bananna. I am laying the blame on Eric Bananna. I am bitter she had the fat sucked out of her tits but the woman can act, although she suffers from the same disease as Madonna in that she likes to effect a bit of an english accent. Did I mention this movie was horrible? It is. The audience threw items at the screen at the end - word of mouth will kill this film. The CGI was fine. The bottom line is they should Hang Ang Lee. I do love how some people are "getting this film"...lol...your cinema IQ's astound me.
some comments on the movie by razor75	Jun 21st, 2003 12:33:30 PM
Just saw the hulk in Malaysia, what a good comic book movie. The comic book cuts and camera angles is really fantastic. Ang lee did a great job on this. The hulk look believable although cgi, it was very good. The best part was when hulk saw betty rose in downtown SF and changed back to banner and the dialog ensured. They was the most memorable moment in the movie. I remember this was as memorable as Spiderman hunting down the burglar who killed his uncle after the wrestling match. Only complain is the ending and hulk superpowers and invincibility. The way hulk jump from one mountain to another mountain is so unrealistic, they should have made it more believable. They made him too powerful, even a only getting little bit injured from tank artillery, they should made him hand or limb coming off and then he slowly regenerate it, that way making a bit vulnerable. The three hulk dogs was menacing and they should have done a Steven Spielberg moment with betty toss in the middle like that did with the jeep in the Jurassic park 1 and the slowly shattering glass in Jurassic park 2. The ending was really confusing and short, they should have filmed it daytime and made banner dad kill betty rose and hulk getting angry and killing him. I did not understand how his dad died, too confusing. I think ending the scene when hulk was in SF could have been the best part with him facing a final showdown with his dad and make his dad like some energy absorbing person ,like pyro or iceman. Overall a very good comic book movie, I think better than Spiderman as could feel the torment of his character. I am still wondering why his mom did not hug banner after getting stab by his dad, instead goes out and look at the nuclear blast. I hope ang lee directs hulk 2, he did a good job with this story.
The Hulk and CGI by mack2002	Jun 21st, 2003 01:40:44 PM
The CGI effects in Gumby, er... Hulk, are no more or less convincing than the cel-animation-combined-with-mo tion-capture effects in Who Framed Roger Rabbit, what?, fifteen years ago. The character is no more or less ridiculous-looking than Godzilla or the Ghostbusters Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man. All the other "transformations" are ridiculous. The dogs are scarier BEFORE they're hulkified. Now that THAT'S settled: Is the movie any good? Yes, up until the second ending (everything post-San Francisco.) At that point the movie loses it in exactly the same way most other superhero movies do. You know the villian pulls out his world-threatening pulsating energy field - green/red/blue/silver sparklies -from his fingers/blender-hat/super-ray/ Statue-of-Liberty -whatever, and the audience, suitably frightened and amazed, yawns aloud, "Wha' the fug?"
are you people stoned? by MiltonWaddams	Jun 21st, 2003 01:53:44 PM
"unplausible fight scenes"
Masterpiece by IMBUE	Jun 21st, 2003 02:33:16 PM
I will first say this is without a doubt the best comic book movie to date. Period. I saw this movie two weeks ago and was awaiting the release of this so I could see it again which I will do tonight. This movie is all about story and the development of the characters. Is it fast paced like most comic book movies? No. However one thing it achieves well is the convincing of how much the human spirit can endure. The story is a tragedy. Not a movie about a super hero. The story is not about the Hulk as much as it is about Bruce and David Banner. David Banner has to be the best villain of any movie I have ever seen. Played so well by Nolte that he should get an Oscar nod. Really, I am not bull$hitting you. I loathed this man (David Banner) by the end of the movie. What he puts his son through and the things surrounding it are unimgaineable. He is the true monster here. The Hulk on the other hand is a monster too but in a different aspect. There is much sorrow to be felt for the creature that Bruce becomes. Yes they are one and the same but you know that this guy is fu*cked up in the head when he reveals he likes it when he becomes the Hulk. Jennifer Connelly was wonderful in her portrayal of Betty Ross. Sam Elliot shines as her father. Everything comes together perfect. Ang Lee's directing is awe inspiring for any movie director who wants to know how to make a good movie. This film will be a classic. Granted the typical dumbed downed American who is looking for an action movie will hate it and complain how boring it is to them. The truth is this is a movie made for people who love real story telling and good direction. Idiots stay at home and go watch 2fast2furious because you wont be able to comprehend the brilliance this movie has to offer.
You people saw when Talbot died, right? by user id indeed!	Jun 21st, 2003 02:54:41 PM
You people who liked the movie so much...I mean, did you SEE that?! That was an embarassment! It looked like the fucking Austin Powers opening! It was a joke. The audience couldn't stop laughing. You have to put CONSCIOUS EFFORT into making an editing mistake that bad. A cardboard cutout with flame behind it... Jesus, that just ruined it for me. I was leaning towards disliking it up until then, when I was violently pushed off of the fence. I'm sorry, but I haven't felt this stupid about looking forward to a movie since "Godzilla."
Whoever said Blade II was better than Daredevil needs to be shot by screenplaywriter	Jun 21st, 2003 03:02:03 PM
"Blade II"- was a mediocre, predictable piece of shit. You knew the vampires were double-crossers from the first time Blade met them and there was no story. "Daredevil"-was classy, cool, sure there were some "questions" in some scenes, but it was a good, GOOD FILM and I don't know why alot of people trash it. You had the hero looking for justice in a tough city (like Batman), a snoopy detective trying to figure out the mystery between Matt Murdock/Daredevil (like the reporter in "BATMAN" with only Bruce Wayne/Batman, the girlfriend with a hidden agenda (Elektra-Catwoman), and a tough as nails crimelord with a viciously cool, suave, and funny henchman Bullseye. The movie was awesome. "HULK"-ranks up there with "Spider-Man" as being the best superhero movie ever made. And here's how my rankings go. 1. "SPIDER-MAN" 2. "BATMAN" 3. "HULK" 4. "Daredevil" 5. "X-MEN" 6. "SUPERMAN" 7. "SPAWN" 8. And "BLADE" as last because he ranks with with the poorly made, acted, and directed "Punisher" and "Captain America" movie.
HULK LAME by Saluki	Jun 21st, 2003 03:09:16 PM
Wow, Ang Lee... You are an OK director, but every last one of your movies just don't connect with the audience (me included), well, AT ALL. To all those that loved the movie and just say that everyone didn't like it because of the effects, look again. We are disappointed with the story. The plot. The backstory. You know, the actual events that happen in the movie. One problem, however, that I did have with the effects... They were 75% at night. This isn't Godzilla '98, they don't have to hide their big green monster in the darkness anymore. X2, Matrix Reloaded, Italian Job & Finding Nemo own this summer (and previous six months), everything else (Daredevil included) can burn.
Lastly, whoever bitches alot about comic book movies not meaning by screenplaywriter	Jun 21st, 2003 03:11:15 PM
I mean Jesus people! Give the directors a chance, so what if they do things differently, or do not reach your standards. I mean you guys complained about Daredevil "oh Kingpin shouldn't be black he's a big, tall, fat, bald, white guy, Bullseye's costume makes him look punky, Jennifer Garner sucked as Elektra, and blah, blah, blah" then you sit here and say "the acting was terrible, the CGI sucked, and blah, blah, blah, the X-Men need their trademark suits, whaaa!" You people obviously don't care about story and film, you mostly care about "I want it to be like the comic book! Whaaa! I'm going to bitch some more." I mean give Ang Lee, Mark Steve Johnson, Bryan Singer, and whoever else is directing a superhero movie a chance. They need our support and help. It's a fantasy popcorn movie, you don't need to use your brain, you don't need to be so critical, you go to a superhero movie to have fun and hear the story about how some dude got his amazing powers and see him fight the villian. If you're lot in life is to sit in a theater and critique every little thing about a superhero movie than you must be a bitter man, but I stick by my word and say "BLADE II" SUCKED DONKEY BALLS! It is the worst comic book sequel movie ever and the it ranks up there with the original "PUNISHER" and "CAPTAIN AMERICA".
I loved the Hulk until the end. What a crap ending! Harry says t by Tarl_Cabot	Jun 21st, 2003 04:08:52 PM
At least make talbot the super villian.David banner could have made him into a Hulk like creature or 'The Abomonation' and Bruce would have to save the day...That 3rd act killed a very promising film. Rats. Spiderman is still the #1 Marvel film by far.
HULK SUCKED BEEF!!! by WrecklessErik	Jun 21st, 2003 04:16:43 PM
Cinematography looked good, CGI was AWESOME (a vast improvement from the Stupor Bowl ad), acting was so-so... but still, a pretty wretched film (too bad it was a Marvel film... they deserve to crank out some great entertainment after all the mismanagemnt in the past that prevented them from putting their characters on film years ago!)! At times I just lapsed into a coma at the lack of action... this is the HULK, for crissakes!! More HULK, more action, more smashing and overall destruction... the CGI made me believe it was an actual 15 foot pissed off giant, but at times he just sort of zoned into space (leichten, my ass!). A major part of HULK's existance is to SMASH!!! Not enough smashing, fighting AbsorbineJunior Man & Hulk Dogs, and just out and out mayhem. You wanna see reflection of the soul and a character looking inward, go see any prime-time TV soap for that doepy crap! You go to see the HULK to see the HULK smash... eveything else is just details. Here's hoping T3, LXG and Freddy vs. Jason save us all from this wretched summer movie malaise, with the exception of X2, of course... I'm outta here!
To All Geeks And Fanboys by mijin11	Jun 21st, 2003 04:36:26 PM
For all the bitchen and moaning that goes on and on on how Hollywood is not treating your fav. comic book character with any repsect. Two words for ya. "SHUT UP". I really enjoyed HULK. I liked the fact that Ang took his time to set up the characters and let us get to know them before hand, instead of going to gamma explosion, HULK SMASH, military VS HULK etc. Face facts thats all you can really do with the HULK, and if thats the movie you guys wanted then good news for you, Charlies Angels 2 opens next week for you posers. The Sins of the Father theme in the film was a nice touch, although too heavy handed at times. But thats okay because I thought the performances overcame it. Technically speaking the framing, the disolves, the wipes were great. Again something different and fresh, and for all the people who had said they had trouble keeping there attention on one thing, please see aformentioned Charlies Angels 2. Ang Lee has created a human story and thats enough for me when you are dealing with a genre of films that are not supposed to take themselves to seriousley. Or would you guys like to go back to the good old days of BAT Credit Cards, and nipples on the suits. OUT.
Jennifer Connely's Tits by Kraaken	Jun 21st, 2003 04:41:12 PM
Where did they go? She used to have nice ones. Now she looks anemic or bulemic. Disappointing.
Chrisyost- try this... by darryl zero27	Jun 21st, 2003 04:47:24 PM
SPOILERS - BIG TIME. Concerning the last battle of the film... David Banner told his son that he now has the ability to absorb the energy of objects... but it was unstable. Whereas in Bruce it was stable. He wanted Bruce to turn into the Hulk so he could absorb that trait - the ability to stabilize the process. At the end, while David was in water form, Bruce says, "Okay, you want the energy and the rage that's inside me? Think you can handle it? Here ya go mothafucka!! Take 30 years of pent up hostility and emotional impotence - a condition, I might add, that you instilled within me due to that traumatic experience I witnessed as a child." All that bottled up energy was too much for David Banner to absorb and thus the huge, globular WATER-like mass that was pulsing with the images and emotions that had been repressed for thirty years. At least, that was my take on the ending. BTW, HULK fucking rocks on a second viewing!!!!!!!
LOL fanboys crack me up by Takashi	Jun 21st, 2003 05:35:41 PM
I sense a lot of sexual frusteration in this talkback. So many "FUCKING RETARDS" thrown around. -- Guys, it's only a stupid comic book movie. LOL. You'd think this is an abortion debate or something.
HULK WANT NEW AGENT by Takashi	Jun 21st, 2003 05:40:54 PM
man, marvel and ILM really fucked up this time. I'm pretty sure we're not gonna be seeing HULK on the big screen again for a long time.
fOr yOu nAySayerS..... by Louis P.	Jun 21st, 2003 06:23:01 PM
"The Hulk" is made for people who love and respect movies. For the rest of you, "Daredevil" will be on DVD next month. Rejoice DUMB-FUCKS!!!
i wish nolte had not been in it. by yeah i'm a jerk!	Jun 21st, 2003 06:24:34 PM
this movie was a real mixed bag. i really thought the cgi worked well for the most part. the facial expressions looked a little too fake, but the body language was awesome. i hated the origin, and i wished the movie had opened with bruce banner in the desert pushing rick jones to safety and getting caught in the blast. if the hulk had shown up about a half an hour sooner it would have made this movie kick major ass. i thought nolte was lame and i didn't really feel like we got an understanding of his motivations. i would have dug it if it had been the hulk kicking ass all through the movie. i felt that the movie suffered because it was like the show, where the hulk doesn't show up until late in the story. i did enjoy the movie in parts but as a whole it really lacked. the best part was the dream sequence with hulk in the mirror yelling "puny human". the hulk needs to speak, dammit. i hope there is a sequel that delivers the goods, because we don't need the origin crap next time.
HULK i s awesome, just smashed all other Marvel flics though som by watashiwadare	Jun 21st, 2003 07:18:56 PM
Hulk great. I forgot what exhilaration in the movies was like. It's mostly like that. Not since Jurassic Park 1 or maybe Natural Born Killers has a summer movie been this rich in creative energy that builds while pushing the drama and never losing focus. I love filmaking that's in love with inventing things,or reinventing things without cynicism or flash. I appreciate how Lee respected the spirit of the 60's - 70's comic as much as King Kong and Sam Shepherd plays. Kick ass. Maybe it won't be noticed for a while (not Bad Boys-like enough) but all the other comic book flics leading back to Superman 1 (still unbeatable) just got smashed. KING KONG. In King Kong, 1933 the first 45 minutes is all talk and development, slow, and nothing happens, totally depriving you of what you expect to see, winding you up with a completely different movie than what comes after the critter is introduced, and once he is, it is spectacular though not overwhelming, just enough to thrill a little and raise expectation for when he shows up again, which is in the sequence involving the log and the great T-rex battle, and the set pieces keep getting bigger and showier as the bar gets raised. HULK follows this path! After setting the story and character conflicts, there's a cool but not nec. showstopping intro of the Hulk, then a bit more to show it's not merely a monster or a CGI effect but a man, and then the spectacular hulk dogs scene, modelled pretty closely to Kong's T-rex fight. Then it keeps getting more spectacular while also pushing the drama intensity and playing up the classic Marvel-ness of the Hulk. Beautiful. I can't believe they're all gaga over the whiny bore of The Matrix 2 and X2 but are all hesitant about Hulk, which is exactly like the movies we grew up on like Raiders and Jaws and Jurassic Park and The Godfather, at least in the neighborhood, spectacular and literate.
I don't think so by Audio27	Jun 21st, 2003 07:27:05 PM
Well - I found the movie a little hard to follow. I admit that I know more about the X-Men then the Hulk, but I still think the story drifted all over the place. The film seemed to drag at several points and poor Jennifer is probably wondering why she ever took this role. She simply is not directed well and I kept drifting away during conversations between her and Eric Bana. Nick Nolte, on the other hand, managed to give you a couple chills while listening to him. He definitely saved portions of the movie for me. One moviegoer actually got up during the Midnight show and yelled, "This sucks!" half way through the movie. He grabbed his girlfriend's hand and walked out. I HAVE NEVER SEEN THAT IN A MOVIE - EVER! I really enjoyed X2 and am looking forward to the third. This, however, I will never see again.
you were wrong, haha by HurleyCD	Jun 21st, 2003 07:40:36 PM
Hah! Everyone who was bitching about the HULK cgi looking terrible was wrong, i saw the movie and it lokked great, and most critics agree. So next time dont bitch so much! Cus you have no clue what the final product is gonna look like. =P
Hulk II: Career Opportunities...which results in Harry "pulling" by Hell's Cigarette	Jun 21st, 2003 07:44:45 PM
Pun intended. Jennifer's magnificent breats make a triumphant return making all of us very happy.
Hulk II: Career Opportunities...which results in Harry "pulling" by Hell's Cigarette	Jun 21st, 2003 07:47:36 PM
Pun intended. Jennifer's magnificent breats make a triumphant return making all of us very happy.
jesus..calm down by puba2	Jun 21st, 2003 08:23:03 PM
maybe i'm just a bitch-ass sucka but i thought this movie kicked hella ass. isn't this what all you fan boys have been clamoring for? a dark, no humor comic movie by a serious director who treats your childhood fantasies seriously? i saw what everyone is complaining about, bad acting, bad CGI, boring, but none of it was nearly bad enough to distract from my enjoyment of the film. bana was good, connelly is good looking, etc...the hulk dogs were cool, all the hulk scenes were cool (except the end, that did kinda suck)
and i thought the matrix reloaded was a dissapointment by relentless	Jun 21st, 2003 08:33:00 PM
GODDAMN HULK SUCKED ASS and then some. besides the annoying editing and yes i know it was made to look like a comic, the begging was just too boring and long. the whole movie was talk and more talk and then fake ass special effects. i mean i went in knowing it was gonna be fake but not this fake and retarded. and even though some critics werent too thrilled with josh lucas's performance in my eyes he was the only one that was fun to watch. i'm dreading the day hulk2 comes out
So much for a Hulk sequel... by Shingledecker	Jun 21st, 2003 08:33:06 PM
Ang Lee sank this fucking franchise like a rock. Marvel should remember their own rule: get filmmakers who are FANS of the material!!! Ang Lee said in an interview that he had never read the comic before. Big mistake.
Another disappointed customer... by Johnny Ahab	Jun 21st, 2003 08:45:53 PM
Didn't hate it, but didn't love it either. Goddamn, does this film take just too freakin' long to set up. The first 45 minutes are bloodless -- and by that I don't mean "gee, we don't see anyone killed", I mean it's empty of passion, of humor, of ANYTHING to move you in anyway. It's dour and broody and boring. Sure, there are fans on the talkback screaming "WELL IF YOU DON'T LIKE CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT, YOU'RE A FUCKING MORON!" -- hey, I like character development. It's what "SPIDER-MAN" did really well. That first hour of "SPIDER-MAN" is involving, exhilarating, funny, moving -- it grabs you right away and got me high watching it the first time. It's not a perfect movie, and it doesn't hold up as well upon repeat viewings, but MAN, the first hour works. The first 45 minutes of "THE HULK" are just turgid and bland. Too much story here, methinks. Did we really need all of the Glenn Talbot storyline?? Every time Lucas came on, the whole story just sagged. Toooooooo much exposition and blather, and yes, you don't really care about Banner or Betty. They're too mopey, as if they walked in from "THE ICE STORM". The Hulk battles were fun, and I could easily get past the CGI and lose myself in the fun of it -- the desert battles and S.F. stuff were terrific. And I appr

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