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What does P.J. Hogan's PETER PAN look like' Click and behold!

It looks like a P. Craig Russell drawing by Fred4sure	Mar 3rd, 2003 09:42:29 PM
Beautiful!
Is this the same as the scrip Moriarty reviewed last August? by Speedbumped	Mar 3rd, 2003 09:55:44 PM
If so, I can't wait. I remember reading that at work last summer and seeing how unbelievably excited Moriarty was about it. It sounded like somebody was really treating the story as a mature, complex work that would appeal to adults and children on different levels instead of being Disney fluff. I think this a story that carries negative connotations with some people solely because of the cartoon, and I want to see this different take on a really appealing and intriguing concept. With Fred Rogers' passing last week, I'm thrown back to my childhood memories and have been soaking in the nostalgic feelings. It makes me relate to and want to be Peter Pan that much more.
I can't decide by Pulzar711	Mar 3rd, 2003 09:56:44 PM
if it's more like a Pre-Raphaelite [sic] work or kiddie porn... lil Petey looks rather waif-like. Creeps me out.
It Reminds Me by BobDole	Mar 3rd, 2003 10:12:50 PM
If Haley Joel Osmond made passionate love to a lilac bush, and then they set thier young babe in the hands of a stone dragon, then that would probably be something to see. Oh, and his godfather is Zamphir, Master of the Pan Flute.
That's craptacular, harry. by wndrmick	Mar 3rd, 2003 10:17:16 PM
Jesus...
Where is Martin Scorsese's PETER PAN, with Ray Liotta in the lea by Red Raider	Mar 3rd, 2003 10:21:33 PM
PP: "You know Hook, you're a funny guy!" Hook: "Funny how...?"
Insert Michael Jackson and Peter Pan's flute joke. by DomisInnerChild	Mar 3rd, 2003 10:30:37 PM

A flute is a reed instrument, a lute is a solid-bodied string in by SleazyG.	Mar 3rd, 2003 10:54:37 PM
They're not even close to similar. It's like saying "I like the fact he's holding an oboe--does that mean the soundtrack is gonna have a mandolin?" Just so y'all know.
Sleasy G and flutes by ph27	Mar 3rd, 2003 11:06:16 PM
I hate to tell you but a flute doesn't use a reed instead the sound is produced more like a whistle. but you were right about a flute and a lute being very different
good to see the elf from LEGEND is still working . . . by 81666	Mar 3rd, 2003 11:07:49 PM
INDEED!!!
one more thing by ph27	Mar 3rd, 2003 11:09:58 PM
after looking at the picture he does have pan pipes or a pan flute as harry called it altho i've never heard that name. this would make harry right and sleasy even more wrong in this instance
one more thing by ph27	Mar 3rd, 2003 11:16:28 PM
i'm asuming harry saying lute like instriments for the score was a typo for flute. cos other wise what he said didn't really have a connection to the image with the pan pipes.
Sleazy G and The Flutes by Sgt. Black	Mar 3rd, 2003 11:42:56 PM
is one helluva cool name for a band.
Quick psychological test by Gristle	Mar 3rd, 2003 11:50:09 PM
When you look at a picture of a young boy (almost) without a shirt on, do you: a) Become aroused; b) Call it pornography, claiming fear that others might become aroused, thus averting attention from the fact that you might be aroused, or from your own fear that you might be aroused; or c) Smile, because all human beings are beautiful (without being sexually attractive) and being a carefree youth was fun and you wax nostalgic for it? I don't know where you guys fall, but I'm a "c", and, based on that Michael Jackson interview, I think he might be a "c", too. No, I wouldn't leave my kid with Michael Jackson, but, then, I wouldn't leave my kid with anyone, especially an eccentric celebrity. Imagine being the little kid who played Peter Pan and visiting the website that presented the premiere photo of him in character and reading all the messages about how sexy he might be to adult men. I suggest you guys read "Peter Pan", because it's a wonderful book about childhood magic and the author's own love for his boyhood and the fellowship he had with the young boys he lived near and loved dearly. (Now, upon reading that last sentence, who immediately wrote off the author, J.M. Barrie, as a pervert? We have a long was to go as a species, folks.)
Lord of the Dance by turk128	Mar 4th, 2003 01:32:14 AM
Besides the obvious fairy from Legend, it also looks like that lil girl from Lord of the Dance... the one that prances around playing a flute.
Blue Lagoon? by JethroBodine	Mar 4th, 2003 01:38:10 AM
Christopher Atkins?
Why is everybody here so obsessed with homosexuality? by St.Buggering	Mar 4th, 2003 01:38:27 AM
Either you people are severe homophobes, or methinks thou doth protest too much. I'm voting on option #2.
Come on now... by Mr Bonefish	Mar 4th, 2003 01:39:24 AM
comparing our beloved Harry to John Merrick is just cruel. Kudos to the crack at MJ. Cockodile...I love it.
John Merrick by Gristle	Mar 4th, 2003 02:23:34 AM
Did you see "The Elephant Man"? Wasn't the point of that film that John Merrick was, not just a person, but a beautiful person?
Is the world ready for two Peter Pan movies? by I Hate Movies	Mar 4th, 2003 02:43:12 AM
I'm predicting a run on green tights this Halloween.
This Christmas...Pan da man! by Moriarity Report	Mar 4th, 2003 02:44:08 AM
This is just how I always imagined he would look like. I was afraid he might look too young and whimpy but he looks great. It reminds me of art from the comic book Elfquest or anything from Barry Blair. I was never a fan of the Disney film but they did do a good job with Pan and his flight. After all these years of Pan adaptions, it will be nice to see one done right. No Julia Roberts as Tinkerbell this time. No Pan played by an adult woman.
That actually looks pretty damn cool! by Psyclops	Mar 4th, 2003 03:08:33 AM
It's a beautiful image. Way better looking than HOOK (I sense inspiration from LOTR with this one). Hope the movie rocks!
Gristle's kinda wacky by DomisInnerChild	Mar 4th, 2003 03:09:42 AM
The actual question about what you should go through your head after seeing the photo should be A) Become aroused and get on the MAMBLA chat line, B) Make a Michael Jackson joke, C) Think for a second it's a topless female Calvin Klein model and then realize your mistake and quickly surf for good straight porn, D) Wonder about the director in Joel Schumacher sort of way, or E) Brace yourself for the weirdos who are going to try to say you're a repressed homosexual if you don't find it beautiful... okay, I think we all know where that question came from Survey Boy.
Glad to see the Pan put back in Peter Pan by empyreal0	Mar 4th, 2003 03:12:26 AM
Yay pagan revivalism! It's refreshing to have an image of Peter Pan that didn't originate from the house of mouse, AND isn't played by some 40-something woman pretending to be a boy in some bizarre Shakespeare-in-reverse casting decision. It's as refeshing as it was to have that Alice miniseries a few years back to help bury the sacchrine crap we've been shovelled for so long. Does this look like the sterile crap we've been handed in safe, easily digested single servings, and been asked to call classic? Hell no. That image is beautiful, that's for sure. It's classic with classic sensibilities. I mean it looks like it was taken straight out of a Bouguereau for gods' sakes. Hooray for Donald McAlpine. As long as Tink doesn't look like The Green Fairy, we're good to go. Once again, pagan revivalism is goooooood.
LOTR influence? well... I dunno.... by empyreal0	Mar 4th, 2003 03:32:19 AM
More likely Harry Potter. Which isn't to say anything against LOTR, mind you, it's just that Pan's a different kind of tale - a children's story, and one that's being told with a lot of mature overtones. That's the direction the HP movies are gradually taking, and that's certainly true of the books. I think Hollywood's actually realizing (perhaps remembering, for some) that a children's story can be mature enough to entertain adults and even make some kind of social or artistic commentary. Yes, Hollywood, we were all kids once. Yes, we like remembering that sense of excitement and adventure we got so easily from the movies as kids but since have forgotten and replaced with dark and gritty adult drama. Just because we need more complex stories now to keep us entertained doesn't mean we won't enjoy the nostalgia of a well-told kid's tale that remembers we're being taken along for the ride. Isn't that kind of what Pan / Neverland is about? It's the dream of never growing up and having to succumb to the drudgery of adult life. It's about infinite adventure. Ultimately it's a story that makes us adults look back with fond memories and want to be those kids again, with all that potential that we "squandered", right? Harry Potter as a movie / book series seems to have latched onto that feeling quite well. It's looking like someone realized that with Pan, removed the fluff, and revitalized the adventure. Can't wait to see what's done with it.
This looks like some bizarre pedofile dream peter pan by TheManWithNoName	Mar 4th, 2003 03:54:51 AM
read the subject.. very creepy,,, pedofile dreams pan ,, nuff said
Nice, very nice by DannyOcean01	Mar 4th, 2003 03:55:48 AM
Nice filter, great composition, and it looks real. There isn't the garish contrived feel that Spielberg's film had. Look forward to this one. Oh, but can we have less shots of the kids. People at work are looking at me strange.
wacko jacko by vicious_bastard	Mar 4th, 2003 08:13:29 AM
I heard that Jacko paid a witch doctor $100,000 to curse Spielberg for not giving him the lead role. Pretty reasonable guy.
He looks like a statue of a dragon! by rev_skarekroe	Mar 4th, 2003 08:54:43 AM
Oh, you meant BELOW that. sk
Absolutely beautiful! by nottoo	Mar 4th, 2003 09:23:57 AM
I think we can all look forward to Barrie's original story told with taste and maturity. Barrie's 1911 novel, written after the play (1904), was a book about children, written for adults. Very soulful and deeply moving. Based on the media coverage coming from Australia, Hogan and his troupe are working very hard to capture that tone. The kids can enjoy it on the adventure/fun story level while the adults will feel the deeper meaning. Really can't wait to see what they do with Captain Hook! Thank you Harry for the image.
Lutes,flutes by Lupe_1001	Mar 4th, 2003 09:48:31 AM
yeah well sorry to rain on all your parades but in the picture pans not holding a Lute or a flute he's got a set of pipes, pan pipes to be exact. more to the point, if you check out Barrie's drawings or the famous statue in Kensington you'll notice that he doesn't play pan pipes, he plays a pipe, pure and simple. http://home.planet.nl/~mepmuff /peterpan.html Pan pipes are named after and depicted with the God "Pan" Their association with peter is just another demonstration of Disney not bothering to do any research and raping our collective child hoods.
BANGARANG PETER! by DM Conan02	Mar 4th, 2003 09:55:47 AM
I must be the only one that thinks that Dustin Hoffman was an excellent Captain Hook in the said-named "Hook". Oh well...this looks much better. "Ruf-i-o, Ruf-i-o, Ruf--i--OOOOOOOOOO! HEY!"
Oz films by m2298	Mar 4th, 2003 11:50:08 AM
"while they're at it, someone could come along and direct a version of the L. Frank Baum Oz stories that isn't a 1940's song-and-dance technicolor piece of crap. I want an Oz that is warped, bizarre, and slightly distrubing. I want a Dorothy that is a young girl- Not some 20-year-old starlet! She should be a plain, simple, matter-of-fact, clever little girl. I want an Oz where the Lion & Tiger walk on all four and LOOK like real animals, where Nick Chopper explains how he became a Tin Woodsman, where Scarecrow becomes a king, and where the Wizard gives the group the really lame fake gifts instead of the "badge of courage" and all that blather from the musical. I want the witch to be HORRID. I want the WHOLE series to be shown, so we can see all the characters...." So do I, but since the terrible box office performance of RETURN TO OZ back in 1985, I don't think it's going to happen any time soon.
Pan casting by m2298	Mar 4th, 2003 11:59:34 AM
"AND isn't played by some 40-something woman pretending to be a boy in some bizarre Shakespeare-in-reverse casting decision." Actually, until Disney Peter Pan was ALWAYS played by a female. Indeed the story was a play (in which Barrie was closly involved) before it became a book. So if anything, having Peter as a boy is a more "bizarre" decision. http://condor.depaul.edu/~slei gh1/study.html#productionhisto ry
81666 by Andel Crodo	Mar 4th, 2003 12:20:50 PM
There was an elf in Legend? I must have missed it.
He ain't no Sandy Duncan... by odysseus	Mar 4th, 2003 01:46:10 PM
...THANK GOD! Seriously, I always think it's pretty creepy when producers cast a woman to be the ultimate "eternal boy." That's "BOY" -- not "eerily androgynous woman-child being." Let's just hope the production design is a little more timeless than Hook's (remember those new wave-looking Lost Boys? ).
When I was a kid... by Lobanhaki	Mar 4th, 2003 02:21:19 PM
Nobody associated anything sexual with a kid going without a shirt, at least not normal people. It's sad that somebody has to bring up NAMBLA everytime some kid goes without a shirt. When I was a kid, it was simple: hot, humid summers, go without the shirt and keep cool. Peter Pan goes shirtless because he's the eternal kid in the eternal summer of Neverland, and he represents freedom from the things adults would impose on themselves and kids: clothes that are more suited to social niceties than the environment around them. I don't see why we have to sexually charge an image like this, the way those pedophile bastards do. God, has the internet fucked us up this badly?
Lobanhaki... by Garry Glitter	Mar 4th, 2003 04:08:09 PM
Very well said Lobanhaki! But come on be honest with yourself, if given the chance wouldn't you like to cum in his face?
What an incredible image. by a goonie	Mar 4th, 2003 04:35:31 PM
Man, PJ Hogan just sold me on this project. That image is breathtakingly beautiful. And the young guy they've picked for Pan (can't remember his bloody name...) looks perfect. This movie just made it onto my must-see 2003 list.
I'm concerned about the panpipes by Lord Shatner	Mar 4th, 2003 04:40:20 PM
The kid might grow up to be Zamfir
"Don't you leave him Samwise Gamgee. And I don't mean to. I don' by FizzenBarber	Mar 4th, 2003 04:46:18 PM
Funny how some people on this forum put down people for being "childish," "babies," etc. For voicing a positive opinion about something. While they're crying like infants to anything having to do with Lord of the Rings. "Why do we need an adaptation of 'Peter and Wendy?' A bunch of little kids half dressed flying around with fairies?? That's SO gay. You people are s... Oh my God, Frodo and Sam are hugging ...This is so beautiful!!" Just a reflection. :)
Watch all the priests flock to this movie! by YeFirstEvil	Mar 4th, 2003 08:20:19 PM
He looks too young, too androgynous, too pretty. Like a pretty little angel. A pretty little naked angel. aw. oops. See the problem here? Are you sure this isn't being directed by Fellini?
That pic has a nice atmosphere to it by KingKrypton	Mar 4th, 2003 10:51:47 PM
...but Peter looks like (a) he was on the losing end of a fight (especially with his shirt being in tatters) and (b) he's taking cover. I know PETER PAN has its violent moments, but I was expecting a more joyful and exuberant pic than this one. Think we can see a pic of Peter in his element, being proud and cocky (and perhaps airborne)?
Bring it on... by Heckityheck	Mar 4th, 2003 10:58:42 PM
Yes I too believe they're inspired by LOTR. Pan looks like Pan should. But the peron I wanna see the most is Jason Issacs as Captain Hook. What I also want to see is Alice in Wonderland, not this Disney crap. The author wrote the friggin book high on opium...or was it cocaine? And Mulan...can you see Mulan with that chick from Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, in the lead role, opening a can of whoop ass on the Mongols? Bring it on...
That kid... by Gristle	Mar 4th, 2003 11:02:05 PM

That kid... by Gristle	Mar 4th, 2003 11:04:01 PM
By the way, you do know that that kid is the creepy younger brother from "Frailty". As far as child actors go, they could have done far worse. I'm really looking forward to this.
Awesome. Judging by this picture alone, I think this movie will by DarthRidiculous	Mar 5th, 2003 10:53:35 AM

Hey! Does anybody else recall the Peter Pan cartoon that aired o by DarthRidiculous	Mar 5th, 2003 10:58:09 AM

DM Conan... I love Hook too by MattmanReturns	Mar 5th, 2003 08:11:07 PM
I've never heard a more unfair bashing of a film than "Hook". Well, perhaps "Willow". Hoffman owned.
"Neverland" by crazyspiderbob	Mar 6th, 2003 03:24:05 PM
You're completely right, there was a 90's Pan cartoon called "Neverland" and it had none other than Mr. Tim Curry as the voie of Captain Hook! It was shit except for that, though. Oh and doesn't this Peter look a little bit too much like Jake "Anakin" Lloyd? Let's hope it's nothing to do with that genepool...
It could be worse... by Eorache	Mar 8th, 2003 11:44:43 PM
... another possible way to go with casting. NPR actually linked to this site. God only knows why. http://www.pixyland.org/peterp an/
90's peter pan cartoon by rattydirtface	Apr 10th, 2003 07:08:31 AM
gimp in my pants is right, it was called Foxe's Peter Pan and was an awesome series
A LIZARD!! We're talking Peter Pan here... by barnesanova	Apr 15th, 2003 04:37:38 PM
Hmmm.... Could it be a CROCODILE!!!!! Just guessing
Poor Peter... by veins	May 2nd, 2003 02:52:53 PM
I just recently saw that this photo was out there. Cool, I thought. Finally get to see what Peter will look like. I loved Peter Pan as a kid. Pirates, adventure, and a kid who never wanted to grow up. And he can fly! I still do! And, have been eagerly awaiting a movie where they do justice to the original story. So, I surfed over here to check out the photo. Then I began to read all the comments. Ugh! I guess I'm naive. What should I of expected. I figured I'd remain silent. But then I read Gristle's comments, and thougt.... I agree with Gristle. "Imagine being the little kid who played Peter Pan and visiting the website that presented the premiere photo of him in character and reading all the messages about how sexy he might be to adult men." The kids only 14. Imagine his parents visiting the site, and reading about "wouldn't you like to cum in his face?" It's looking like this may of been the wrong photo to release. He's laying there shirtless in a claw, looking like a potential sacrifice. It certainly has put some hormones in high gear. Repeat: He's only 14. And, has only recently turned 14! This kid is likely going to need a shrink, once this is all over with. No doubt, as more publicity photos are released and the trailers are released (not to mention the movie itself), this kid will find his bare-chested version of Peter Pan all over the internet. And as Lobanhaki stated: "Nobody associated anything sexual with a kid going without a shirt.." I was one of those kids that ran around without a shirt. If I knew there were those out there that I was turning on, I would of... Geez, I don't know.
I agree with Veins and Gristle by GryphonSatyr	Jun 25th, 2003 01:48:51 AM
I was also one of those kids (and adults now) that run around shirtless... because I live the low South ;) If Neverland is anything like what we have in the summer time, Peter would be a moron to run around in some sappy green Disney-esque costume. He's a free, wild kid. I know, when I was a kid, the first thing I did when I came home from school (and now work, or anyplace else I go), I would take my shirt off. People do that. Kids in warm weather do that. He's shirtless because it's hot and because he has no rules to conform to. Clothing is a form of conformity, nuff said. It's not sexual. It's not pedophiliac. It's a kid. Now, can we all stop thinking gutteral thoughts and enjoy what should become a new classic? Thanks ;)
Ehh... by Mouseness	Jul 5th, 2003 01:24:06 PM
I figure you can do one of two things: a) you can take 90 minutes and remember how free and innocent you were as a child, before sexual deviance was a spectre in your daily life, and enjoy the escapist fantasy as it was meant to be. b) you can wall yourself into a shell of paranoia and overreaction which will harm many and help none, make salvoes from the relative anonymity of the internet, then slither away or scream censorship when accountability comes into the picture. Sometimes, it just ain't about sex.
Finally, a version of Peter Pan in its original Gothic style! by Dorain	Jul 5th, 2003 03:02:00 PM
Between Disney's "Boy in tights", Hook's wussy and hairbrained portrayal by Dustin Hoffman and endless years of women crossdressing to pretend to be the Eternal Youth, it looks like we're finally going to have a perfomance of Peter Pan that truly captures the Gothic and Classic struggle between the conflicting natures within every adolescent on earth. A harsh, yet cinemagraphic exploration that looks like it isn't going to be afraid to take a page from Lord of the Flies. From what I've seen so far, it's going to be something that doesn't pause to consider anyone's "Political-Correctness-Poisone d" sensibilities into account as it examines the duality between Peter and Hook; two sides of the same coin, two faces of honour and selfishness; the powerful, fearsome personality of Hook vs. the self-centred, short-sighted charm of Peter. Except for them apparently casting actual twins for the roles of the Lost Boys, "Twins", it looks like this might just be the most honest and true interpretation of the original story since Fox Kids produced the sadly short-lived cartoon series, "Peter Pan & The Pirates". A James Hook that's as much an elemental force of nature, as a gentleman pirate. A Peter Pan who is both an Inspiration and a Constant Rival to the Lost Boys and Young Indian Braves (especially Nibs and Hard-To-Hit, respectively). Lost Boys who have vital and unique personalities and histories (unlike the shameful "window-dressing"-style Lost Boys from the Disney Cartoon. An ending that isn't "sweetened up" by the attitudes of Opinion-Swayed Producers. All of these things, and more, are what I'm hoping to see from this new vision of Peter Pan. And as for that Paedophile comment from that one person... Dude, no offence, but that takes some pretty strange thinking to glean an opinion like that from a Peter Pan movie!
Oh, and it's called a Syrinx by Dorain	Jul 5th, 2003 03:13:10 PM
Peter's pipes are called a Syrinx; as in the instrument that the Greek God, Pan, made out of one of his loves, the Nymph, Syrinx, when she was transformed into reeds, due to her appeal to her goddess-mother that she be saved from Pan's amorous advances.
28 superb photos -- amazing, not to be missed by nyc_film_junkie	Nov 22nd, 2003 01:21:48 AM
Check out the cinema.com page with 28 superb Peter Pan photos, each better than the next. Each shot is lush and perfectly composed, with brilliant design and detail. Number 26 is the Darling family outside, in period costume, so authentic you think this is a documentary. If this link is bad, go to IMDb.com, check out the photos page, and look for the link to cinema.com.
Here's the link to 28 photos -- MUST SEE by nyc_film_junkie	Nov 22nd, 2003 01:28:48 AM
Forgot the link in the last post. http://www.cinema.com/gallery/ item.phtml?ID=7795 Important notes: 1] Use the "numbered menu" links, 1 through 28, to view all photos. If you use the "next" button link, it will fizzle out after 10 photos, and you don't want to miss any of these gems. 2] You can click on each individual photo to open a larger, higher resolution photo in a new window, to see the stunning detail, design and immaculate photo composition in each shot. Let me know how you like these. And enjoy. Paul, NYC
16 reasons to drool over these photos... by nyc_film_junkie	Nov 22nd, 2003 01:50:25 AM
1] A great poster shot of Pan, with a ship in the background 2] You've never seen a hook like this, I guarantee you 3] A rapturous overhead shot of Pan flying into the window 4] An innocent but slightly "blue lagoon" shot of Peter and Wendy 5] A deliciously impish grin which explains why they cast this kid as Peter 6] Wendy in her Victorian bedroom, before a mirror 7] He flies, he attacks, he's bathed in red light 8] A mysterious woman/water-creature -- someone explain this, please 9] TICK TICK TICK... 10] Group photo, lost boys 11] Hook and Smee, straight from your storybook 12] The Darling boys begin to fit right into the whole Neverland scene 13] A hook in one hand, a gun in another -- now THAT's menacing 14] A cool family shot in period costume 15] Two bewildered parents, looking into the sky from the nursery window 16] Foreshadow: Darlings kids playing make-believe at home

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