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You throw me the Tentacle, I'll throw you the web... Doc Ock... hmmmm... THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN!

ALL RIGHT! BOB HOSKINS WILL BE DOC OCK! by BurlIvesLeftNut	Feb 7th, 2003 10:34:45 PM
Okay, I am in denial. Down with Molina... he talks funny.
A surpising choice, but perhaps a smart one. by JDanielP	Feb 7th, 2003 10:38:33 PM

Uh, excuse me,...I'M FIRST!!! (hahahaha) by JDanielP	Feb 7th, 2003 10:51:20 PM
And by the way, ... I still say that a James Cameron directed "BATMAN VS. SUPERMAN" (or whatever the title) with a brooding, intense George Clooney (as you KNOW he is capable of) as the dark knight and Howie Long (with the classic black haircut, over the ear with the swirly-Q) as the man of steel. -- James Cameron always shoots a film that he "knows" will be good, seeing it for himself in his mind's eye long before he begins shooting. (And besides, he once wanted to be a comic book illustrator) And Clooney and Long MUST be about the same age, ... a great match-up of our heroes in their prime. Cameron, Clooney, and Long. -- And I'm okay with the choice for Doctor Octopus.
Didn't see that one coming by ZeroImpact	Feb 7th, 2003 10:53:28 PM
A relatively surprising choice. Great potential. And with every smart move Marvel makes, I see the DC universe slowly and painfully descending to hell. Still, hope prevails.
Alfred Molina = Angel from Maverick by darth jobu	Feb 7th, 2003 10:56:04 PM
The guy who couldnt kill Mel Gibson. Right....great teeth grinder.
T-MACK --- About that Walken rumor by HEADGEEK	Feb 7th, 2003 10:59:57 PM
Harry here - Check your history, you'll find that was Moriarty's scoop, not mine. I've had plenty that went south, but that one was the professors.
hey look, up in the corner- by userID:	Feb 7th, 2003 11:00:27 PM
its a bird... no- its a plane... no- its anna nicole smith!!
call me crazy but,... by jetdjango	Feb 7th, 2003 11:03:57 PM
I think steve buscemi would make a great doc ock !
fettastic's MOM??? I thought the Cat Woman was his girlfriend!!! by TalkBackWarrior	Feb 7th, 2003 11:15:55 PM
eeeeewwwwwww!!! NASTY!!! I'm gonna go wash myself.
You're right about Patrick Stewart by AICNase	Feb 7th, 2003 11:17:00 PM
Way back in the day when I heard from somewhere that an X-men movie might be in the works (or maybe I was just fantasizing, I can't remember this was back in like 1996 or '97), I remember chatting about casting with someone and Patrick Stewart was the first and only choice we could come up with for Prof. X. If I recall the other choices weren't necessarily as inspired. I think I had Angela Basset as Storm (actually that one is pretty good), Sean Connery as Magneto and something silly like Bruce Willis for Wolvie. Anyway It shouldn't be suprising that nobody bothered to do Batman style stunt casting for the Amazing Spider-Man. For one thing, at this point Spider-man sells itself, it doesn't need big names to get asses into seats, so it makes sense to actually cast based on talent.
woah... by DancesWithWerewolves	Feb 7th, 2003 11:20:48 PM
i think this is a good choice so far for doc ock. My only problem is that i've always visualized Jeffery Combs in the part. I'm torn now.
woah... by DancesWithWerewolves	Feb 7th, 2003 11:26:30 PM
i think this is a good choice so far for doc ock. My only problem is that i've always visualized Jeffery Combs in the part. I'm torn now.
Another great choice. I totally see what you mean, Harry. This d by a goonie	Feb 7th, 2003 11:31:39 PM
Raimi going with Dafoe as the GG instead of the long-rumoured Nic Cage was incredibly cool. Cage, although recently having given one of his best performances in Adaptation, would have really fucked up the role. Having a mega-$20 million star in a movie where every other role had been handed to slightly smaller actors (most of whom have received some critical acclaim along the way) could have seriously distorted the balance of the project. Now, after all the ideas thrown around here about Joe Pesci or Danny Devito or what-not, we have an unexpected name show up and it's a brilliant one. When I read Harry's words that this actually makes a lot of sense, I automatically thought, who's it gonna be? Then I saw the name: Alfred Molina. And I had what I imagine was a similar reaction to Harry's: it just made sense. Now, the more I think about it, the more I love it. Molina IS Doctor Octopus. Not only does he look the part, but he's a great actor, too. Once again, Raimi surprises and amazes.
Boogie Nights Guy vs. Cowboy Curtis by Three Quarks	Feb 7th, 2003 11:40:16 PM
Molina is a quirky and daring choice, just as McGuire was, and he may indeed work just as well. But I can't help but think that, no matter how seriously Molina takes the part, he'll still be kind of comic(as in, silly) up on those big arms screaming at that accursed Spider-Man. Lawrence Fishburne is who I pictured, because if he was coming after me, with or without the giant toilet snakes, there wouldn't be a damn funny thing about that. Even picturing him in a cowboy hat wouldn't help. In other words, yeah, Molina can act and it's not "stunt" casting; but that doesn't mean it's not a campy choice. And unless it's Roger Waters film, "campy" usually sucks. Anyone?
I disagree BAUF by AICNase	Feb 7th, 2003 11:42:27 PM
I think Venom and Carnage would make awesome bigscreen characters. Perhaps not in the same movie, that might get too crowded. Of course, I'm not a very good comic book geek, so I may be ignorant of some general agreement about the sucktatude of Venom and Carnage, but I always thought they were cool, and since this is the internet, that's all that's really important isn't it. By the way, since there is a 95% chance that this is going to be posted above BAUF's post in the talk back I'm wondering why I even bothered to post in the form of a response.
with the right haircut and thick glasses... by KONG33	Feb 7th, 2003 11:44:37 PM
a little weight.... he'd be fine.
The best choice for Doc Ock by B166ER	Feb 7th, 2003 11:56:28 PM
Ozzy Osbourne!! That would fucking ROCK!
Stellan Skarsgard would be better. Much better. by JonQuixote	Feb 8th, 2003 12:02:35 AM
Much better than anybody. But I'll have no complaints about Molina.
great casting by json	Feb 8th, 2003 01:14:46 AM
Personally, I think Udo Kier would be a great Doc Ock. But Molina is a cool choice too.
No time to argue! by Tall_Boy	Feb 8th, 2003 01:20:31 AM
You throw me the tentacles, I'll throw you the webbing!
It's SaPIto, not Satipo... by Neil MacAuley	Feb 8th, 2003 01:27:10 AM
The name of the character in the credits of Raiders is actually WRONG. How do I know that? Well, not because I've actually referenced the original script, but because you can clearly hear Harrison Ford say "Adios, Sapito." Now, maybe Ford said it wrong, but considering the entire film was adr'd, why wouldn't they have corrected him in the studio during post? So, in conclusion, I'm right, Harry's wrong, and why the HOLY HELL was Joe Pesci not tapped to play Doc Ock?!!!!!! Although Molina rules, the dealer in Boogie Nights alone dominates the entire history of performances on film, so I'm cool with that.
Good Job by BankyFan	Feb 8th, 2003 01:30:57 AM
They finally made a smart choice. Although, problem is, doesn't this shoot in the summer? Molina's committed to doing a FIDDLER ON THE ROOF revival this summer, and I can imagine that that would throw a wrench into the works. Other than that though, it looks like Raimi is aiming to make the best superhero movie ever.
Three Quarks ... by JohnnyFriendly	Feb 8th, 2003 01:32:35 AM
I think you meant JOHN Waters.
Now cast Superman by _Mohss	Feb 8th, 2003 01:39:56 AM
Paul Gross for Superman! Paul Gross for Superman! coughsputter Sorry about that.
Hey jetdjango! by Bad Guy	Feb 8th, 2003 01:42:27 AM
You're crazy!! And Barry Woodward? No more songs ever!! Oh, and the idea of Alfred Molina as Doc Ock? I lke it. Make it so!
Tom Hanks by JudgeHolden0211	Feb 8th, 2003 02:01:06 AM
I think we all know and understand that this role was meant for Tom Hanks and Tom Hanks alone -- anyone else as Doc Ock is a travesty.
I always thought Sam Neill would make a good Doc Ock... by IAmJacksUserID	Feb 8th, 2003 02:32:40 AM

Marvel Films by NeoAngelus	Feb 8th, 2003 02:50:40 AM
You know... I saw Blade on TNT earlier today, and really, it just made me realize that movie was just the start of Marvel doing their movies right. They made it different enough from the comic to attract mainstream audiences, but the stayed close enough to the comic to keep the fanboys at bay. And it's been like that with each movie so far. In my opinion, Marvel is 3 for 3, with DD, X-2 and Hulk looking to make it a clean sweep. I just love hearing about Marvel casting news, because it always seems right. Even the non-obvious choices. I mean, when Spider-Man was in production, me and my friends would toss around names like Malkovich and Oldman to play Osborn/Goblin. And then when we heard Dafoe snagged it... It was like... "Oh wow! I never thought about it, but... he'd be fucking GREAT!" And he WAS. And now, Mr. Throw-Me-The-Whip is being asked. I seriously hope he takes it. That would be pretty friggin' pissa. I'm not terribly familiar with his film work, but I'm just ecstatic they aren't going with obvious choices. And honestly, I won't be upset at all if he doesn't have the bowl cut hairdo. A hairdo does not a character make.
But who will reprise the role of Cliff Robertson's hair? by Son Of Batboy	Feb 8th, 2003 03:59:37 AM
And will Macy Gray make another frightening guest appearance in the middle of a scene to promote the Amazing Spider-man MTV friendly soundtrack? Will Toby get enough iron in his diet to lift his performance above that of a tranquilized sloth? How many times will Peter just "happen to be in the neighborhood" while meeting Mary Jane? Will Chad Kroeger write a tearful ballad in tribute to Dr.Pepper? These are the real questions that need to be answered.
Headgeek by The Llama	Feb 8th, 2003 04:57:02 AM
Harry, man, I just looked up the Walken story...three stories, the second two both Moriarty's, but the first one was yours--4/13.
Udo Kier definately by JacksonsBane	Feb 8th, 2003 05:15:08 AM
He would rule.
Whooooosh ! There goes Starburst's DeNiro rumor ! by RobinP	Feb 8th, 2003 05:17:20 AM
That would've been pretty cool. (Doc Ock) "So...Spider-Man....are you BETTER than me ? Are you ?" (Spidey) "I....I....er" (Doc Ock) "ARE YOU BETTER THAN ME ???" Thinking also about the talkbacker who suggested Ozzy : Doc Ock "Hey......man...(mutters) what the fuck's his fucking name...You, yeah, you, man. (Pauses to gather thoughts) I...er...I.......um....I...I.. ..um......aw, fuck it" (ambles in to kitchen).....SHAROOOOOOOOOOON !!!!" All kidding aside, Alfred Molina is a smart choice
ABOUT THE NAME SATIPO by halconmilenario	Feb 8th, 2003 06:21:59 AM
Ok, here it goes: Satipo is how it
Bravo Marvel! Cast more no-names! by BTWR	Feb 8th, 2003 06:45:35 AM
By "no-name" I mean not an "A-List" star. This is another brilliant move. Hugh Jackman was stole the show in X-men, the cast an unknown in The Hulk and LOTR has mostly unknowns in it. I think it's so bad when they only use the small crop of stars for certain roles. For example, Nicholas Cage as Superman?!?!?!?!?). If you look hard enough, or not even that hard, you'll find an early 30's/late 20's guy who has decent acting skills who has the innocence of Clark Kent and yet has some broadness as well - look at Broadway, International, etc - and your movie will cost $20 less! Why hire Ben Affleck (though I happen to like the guy) when no one goes to the Superhero movie for the actor, but for the charachter! C'mon! We didn't spend $400 million to see Willem Dafoe! We wanted the Green Goblin, who happened to be played marvelously by Mr. Defoe! *AUFT*
What about Superman? by Monkey Lover	Feb 8th, 2003 06:58:55 AM
I hear they may have cast a chap by the name of Victor Webster, from TV's Mutant X. He surely does look the part, but will he have the required acting chops? Or is it even a real rumour? Who knows anything about this? WHO? WHO, DAMMIT?!
I'm no casting agent, but I think Horatio Sands from SNL should by Cinemajerk	Feb 8th, 2003 07:37:55 AM
heh heh heh. ok...maybe not. What about these: 1) Ray Ramano 2) John Lovitz 3) Chris Kattan
sir elton by chestercopperpot	Feb 8th, 2003 07:50:13 AM
thnk u 4 referencin my ... ahem ahem ... first choice ... which i ... coff coff .. was the first 2 suggest on this site .... as 4 molina ... gr8 choice .. i just loved him in magnolia when he swears at donnie .. wonder if they'll typecast him as usual an make a middle eastern doc ock .. probably wude b apt .. why not add to the already propganda filled industry. they can always do the the arab catwoman rout with eliza dushku. o .. i had no idea that was him in raiders .. tres tres kool.
FlameBattler is talking out of his ass (I'd venture to say again by TalkBackWarrior	Feb 8th, 2003 08:12:34 AM
Doc Ock would clean his clock. One look at the goggles, and that little boy would shit a twinkie. Otto Octavius RULES!
Carnage rumors... by phasmatrope	Feb 8th, 2003 08:18:07 AM
I agree with Industry Killer here; if they're ever going to do Carnage, I don't see him as being played by Jake Glyenhowever-you-spell-his- name. I don't care if as an actor he supposedly has the potential to "transform himself" and all that idealistic bullshit; he's just too boyish. But after his role in "Green Mile," Sam Rockwell would be DEAD ON. Maybe even Ryan Gosling or Brendan Sexton III too, if you're going for someone young (I know Rockwell's got a few years on Maguire anyway). Basically someone who could pass for kinda white trash & menacing. Either way, we shouldn't be having to worry about this till we're, like, at Spiderman 5. This is just taking the character TOO fucking far ahead. One minute he's fighting Green Goblin, and the next he's fighting... aliens? Alien symbiotes, one of which is a distortion of the other? So basically you'd have to have the black suit's introduction, Venom's feud with Spiderman, the symbiote's separation from Brock, Kletus' introduction, the suit transforming Kletus into Carnage, and Venom's resolution of his feud with Spiderman to team up against Venom ALL IN THE SAME MOVIE. It just ain't happening. Fuck it, go slow. Introduce some more of the Sinister Six first: Sandman, Mysterio, the Vulture, Electro, Kraven. Or even someone like Shocker, who is certainly not as memorable as any of those guys, but certainly wouldn't be so far removed from Spiderman's everyday world as a fucking symbiote-based threat would be. If they want freakish and weird, they can go with the Spider-Slayer, or better yet, the Hobgoblin. Hell, Mysterio's pretty weird as is, and you could probably create a whole film based on him and all his clones and tricks and clones.
Damn. I never realized he was the guy from Raiders by the G-man	Feb 8th, 2003 08:23:41 AM
A potentially cool choice. Can someone immediately put Raimi in charge of the WB? Thanks.
I want to see The Hulking Spider-Man, with Hulk Hogan as the goo by DukeTheBastard	Feb 8th, 2003 08:24:46 AM
Courtesty of your friendly neibourhood Brother.....
Wot no lizard? by alfiemoon	Feb 8th, 2003 08:59:31 AM
This guy looks great for Doc Ock, think it's a good thing again to cast a less-known good actor than a big name but style-over-substance actor... for want of a better word, Nicolas Cage. But is there still no word on the Lizard? Has it been dropped from the movie? He'd make a fine secondary villain. There was quite a lot of talk kicked about early on (including the possibility of Bruce Campbell being Curt Connors - Groovy!) but nothing much in the last couple of months. And Venom, if done properly,could kick arse in 3. Don't think Venom and Carnage would work in the same film, too cramped, but if Raimi played up the personal element, as with the Green Goblin, it could make for some good character stuff. As long as the Venom suit doesn't end up being Spawn mk.II...
Doc Ock is a stupid idea for a villain by Vynson	Feb 8th, 2003 09:06:32 AM
How many panels of art have we seen where Dr. Octopus has Spidey in one tentacle, some girl in another and the other two hold up a train 30 feet away from him? All of this, of course, is supported by the spine and legs of a normal man. Riiight. The rules of asking your audience to suspend disbelief comes in not treating them like complete idiots... like watching Mary Jane slide down a steel cable, lose her grip, fall 30 feet and catch herself. Yeah. Sure. This kind of stuff just screws up a decent movie. If they can just keep in mind that the man has a normal human spine and a center of gravity, maybe it won't suck.
I always thought my history profesor would get the part! - Serio by Jim's Monster	Feb 8th, 2003 09:41:14 AM
Also, even though he's a little old now to be fighting spiderman, Jeffrey Jones would be an interesting choice. Maybe not a good choice, but it's always a pleasure to that man on screen. I watched The Devil's Advocate twice just for him. Twice! Well, okay, partly for Pacino, but mostly for him. Also, if they were going to go with a name, I think Robin Williams would be great! Especially given his recent string of serial killer roles. Wahwahwah, STAB STAB, Wahwahwah, KILL KILL! You ain't never had a Killer like him!
If I didn't read it on The Facer dot Net, it doesn't mean shit by RichardHellFan	Feb 8th, 2003 10:00:56 AM
Answer the door, fat ass. It's Domino's.
T h e F a c e r . n e t r o c k s. A I C N s u c k s a s by RichardHellFan	Feb 8th, 2003 10:02:37 AM
Answer the door, fat ass. It's Domino's.
Vynson.. you are a complete MORON by DoggyDaddi	Feb 8th, 2003 10:43:24 AM
the arms are not attatched to Doc Oc.. they are part of an assembly made & manufacture of several alloys, including impure adamantium. The harness is linked to Doc psionicly & telepathicly, as well as occasionally grafted to his body. He never uses his OWN body to do ANYTHING with the arms. They anchor themselves, lift themselves, and act themselves. He simply controls them. He never places himself into the position of fulcrum or center. He DOES occasionally use the arms to increase his momentum, to satisfy a deep seated need to strike Spidy with his fists. but thats usually after Spidy is allready stunned or injured. Next time, pull your head out of your ass before you decide to impart advanced biology or basic physics to a friggin comic book character.. you DORK
Spidey 2 plot details by K26dp2	Feb 8th, 2003 11:13:01 AM
DOC OCK HAS A BEER AND CHEATS ON AUNT MAY!
good choice by DocPazuzu	Feb 8th, 2003 11:15:15 AM
Molina.... I like it. If that hadn't worked I think Oliver Platt or Fred Ward in a Moe Howard wig would have fit the bill. Search your feelings, you know it to be true. Doc out.
Seeing this guy always makes me think of his horrible sitcom The by enigmainyourhead	Feb 8th, 2003 11:24:46 AM
Which was a waste of both Sharon Lawrence and Bettie White
So Stellan Skaarsgard is out of the running now? by EL Duderino	Feb 8th, 2003 11:34:12 AM

Villians by Bethlehem Slouch	Feb 8th, 2003 11:37:50 AM
I don
from the guy who gets spiked in raiders to an octopus dude, nice by where_am_i	Feb 8th, 2003 11:46:21 AM
im a massive fan of Indiana Jones, never heard of this guy though. hah! if someone tossed him the idol as Doc. Oc he couldn't miss could he?
Wow, that is one Germanic-looking guy by scythe1138	Feb 8th, 2003 11:46:23 AM
I wish they would try and get someone who was the slightest bit German. It wouldn't be the same without the menacing accent, which they will undoubtedly cut should they cast this guy. But as long he has the ability to act, I'm fine with it. Just don't give him the jokingly happy yet insane villain dialogue that Willem Dafoe spouted as Green Goblin. Hard to be intimidated by an antagonist that sings "The Itsy-Bitsy Spider"
Uh...not what I pictured Doc Ock to look like. by screenplaywriter	Feb 8th, 2003 11:50:02 AM
Personally, I think your guy's picks are better than Sam Raimi's right now. Sam Neil sounded like he wanted it, but now he's doing the fourth "Jurassic Park" with Goldblum. Bob Hoskins would be cool he's got an accent and look at him as Cruschev, or the "Roger Rabbit" detective character he played them as stern, but funny at the same time. Otherwise, the last guy I could see playing Doc Ock is: Drew Carey, or Wayne Knight (lol) kidding, kidding.
THese pretzels are making me thirsty by EdHairless	Feb 8th, 2003 11:52:08 AM

"SPIDER-MAN 2" will probably be like this... by screenplaywriter	Feb 8th, 2003 12:05:44 PM
Harry is so consumed with killing SPIDER-MAN that he enlists someone to help him "squash" the little bug. So, he gets Doc Ock. Doc Ock tells him he isn't a man of violence, but of science. Harry is disappointed by this and while Ock is creating his (octopus suit) Harry tells some of his goons to take care of Ock for not doing his job. An explosion blows up the room, leaving Ock to become Dr. Octopus. Meanwhile... Peter is doing a part-time job with Doc Connors. Doc Connors tells him he's working on way to regrow his hand, but using reptile DNA. Peter tells him he's crazy to try it, but Dr. Connors refuses to believe it. He tells Peter to leave. Later...that night the experiment fails and he becomes The Lizard. Then, the rest rights itself. Seeing in the cartoon where Peter knew Doc Ock as a child. Doc Ock finds out that Peter is Spider-Man and captures his Aunt May, Peter goes off to rescue her. The Lizard tries to make a deadly concoction where he can turn everyone into lizards. Peter stops them both, kisses MJ, and has sex with her later. The End.
Fred Milano? I mean, Molina? hmm... by NeofromtheMatrix	Feb 8th, 2003 12:06:34 PM
I don't know. Sam Neil still seems like the better option. But as long as its not Robert DeNiro, I'm happy.
Ernest Borgnine..... by dpc01	Feb 8th, 2003 12:09:54 PM
.....is who I've always been reminded of when I've seen the character in his comic persona. But with Richard Basehart's voice.
Isn't Molina also the one by holidill	Feb 8th, 2003 12:25:22 PM
Who gets the creature in Species Pregnant? The dude nailed Natasha Henstridge!
larry drake people! by eo766	Feb 8th, 2003 12:35:46 PM
larry drake should so be doc ock. he already bascially played the maniacal evil genius as durant in darkman which was directed by raimi himself. larry just looks the part also. i like molina but hes got that hispanic look to him that i never saw in doc ock. doc ock always seemed like a mad german scientist like frankenstein whose creation turned on him. I can stand molina but larry drake is the better choice.
Jeffrey Tambor as Doc Ock by ManosTHOF	Feb 8th, 2003 01:53:42 PM
HEY NOW!
No No No...This is not Doc Ock by Trixscillion	Feb 8th, 2003 02:33:48 PM
Crispin Glover is Doc Ock....bulk him up a few pounds and he is perfect, with both the nutty genius dimwit (Back to the Future) to psycho with bad haircut (Charlie's Angels). I saw him in that and said that is Doc Ock.
I agree by Trixscillion	Feb 8th, 2003 02:43:45 PM
The guy from Darkman would be great....if he can act and pull off the part he has the looks and the criminal genuis part about him. That is the one thing about Ock that the Goblin missed, he did not use his intellegence. Ock always did. The german thing would be nice but not essential..he could be a descendant and lost the accent. For gods sake do not do the Lizard in the same picture...it is the Batman series all over again...Argggh. Do a side plot if you have to with Flash Tompson or maybe introduce Eddie Brock and begin the Venom storyline (that would lead into the next movie I hope.) ORRRRR maybe do a minor subplot with a relatively unknown twit the S-man takes down easy or just plays with ...like Rhino. Lizard is a big story with a lot of emotional dynamics and possiblities....and Peter knew Connors for a long time. Don't try to cram quantity in place of quality.
How 'bout Daniel Day-Lewis (in Bill the Butcher mode) as Craven by truthseekr1488	Feb 8th, 2003 02:43:48 PM

Casting ideas by Trixscillion	Feb 8th, 2003 03:02:00 PM
I agree whole heartly about Vin as Eddie Brock/Venom. I think the 3rd movie should by with Mysterio or better yet....do a dual villian film with Sand Man and Hydro Man. Two thieves that easily could be explained as working in a lab for let's say ....Stark Industries....and attempt to steal some genetic fusing material....while in pursuit the two crash...both are throw from the vehicle and one lands in sand and the other in water...there origin done. Let the onslaught begin. Electro would be a very cool film, the spider slayer theme would be nice because Osborne could do it with the help of the scientist who created the whole thing....while also putting surviellance on the entire city to find out Parker's secret id. Just do not break out the Spidey mobile...:) I think Sam Rockwell would be a great Carnage. Although the FF heplping remove the suit will be an interesting write I must say. Enough said I am out. BTW what about Richard Dean Anderson (McGuiver) for Mr.Fantastic?
Helllllooo... OCK! by Kid Z	Feb 8th, 2003 03:26:21 PM
Hey... "Newman" as Doc Ock.... Oh hell, just kidding! I actually think Molina's a great choice. Believable as a dedicated scientist, with just enough of that loopy Bruce Dern look in his eye to play post-accident, freaked out psycho madman. As for ock picking up great weights and supporting them with a huamn spine... well, donesn't the good doctor usually use a few of his... ummm.. cok legs to walk with while the others spread their usual carnage? So the tentacle-suit is supporting all that weight, not Doc's spine. Works for me.
I agree Sam Rockwell would be good as Carnage, either that or Ti by screenplaywriter	Feb 8th, 2003 03:38:40 PM
We need someone who can play edgy and sinister very good. I hate it though that they're thinking of "The Rock" for Venom. I mean sure he's got the Eddie Brock thing down, but he should go back to wrestling. He just doesn't cut with me as an actor too much. "The Scorpion King" would've been a great epic if they hadn't have put in the stupid sorceress bit and the whole I'm going to the kingdom to kill, no i'm going to rescue the princess, no i'm going back there, oops she got captured, i don't want to go back, oh wait yeah I do" thing. It was stupid to see him go back and forth. Vin would be a cool pic for Eddie Brock. I'd love to see him bring his "Xander Cage" character to Eddie's and combined them to one bad-ass villian.
Other villian casting ideas... by screenplaywriter	Feb 8th, 2003 03:45:27 PM
The Vulture-Patrick Stewart, he's smart, he's got the bald head. Mysterio-Could be anybody. The Shocker-Could be anybody. The Rhino- Somebody large and intimidating, maybe say Brock Lesnar, or you could just put a fat guy in a suit. The Sandman and Hydroman-Nah, pass on these guys! Hobgoblin-You don't really have to show his face, only the mask. You could have Mark Hamill doing his voice and then when Spidey finally nails him any actor's face can be under it. Kraven the Hunter- Daniel Day Lewis, Christian Bale, Gerard Butler, anybody with a mustache in Hollywood who can act.
Have you guys read the scoop over at DH that Jake Gyllenhaal is by a goonie	Feb 8th, 2003 04:46:04 PM
That's fucked! I was just perusing the talkback board here, and noticing mention of how cool it would be to see Sam Rockwell in the role of Carnage. Well, it seems as though Jake is going to do it, and that his bit part is going to set up the villain for Spidey 3. Hmmm. We'll see.
Oops. I think I, like Garth at DH may have gotten Cletus Cassady by a goonie	Feb 8th, 2003 04:48:03 PM
It's been a while since I read one of my Max Carnage comics. I stand corrected. I think.
spoilers by fettitular	Feb 8th, 2003 04:48:42 PM
I heard that in the Amazing Spiderman, Doc Ock uses one of his tentacles to cut off a woman's tit.
AICNase by kiimo	Feb 8th, 2003 04:57:53 PM
That's really funny. Back in the day a couple of friends and I also tried to cast X-Men. Although it was longer ago than 96, we had much the same ideas. Patrick Stewart for X, Angela Bassett for Storm (which I still think should have been done, Haley Berry sucked), Sean Connery for Magneto. At the time we had dreamed of Mel Gibson being Wolvie, although this was when he was younger not too long after Lethal Weapon came out. I still think he could have done the instable mind part and the beserker part really well (final fight scene in the rain in Lethal Weapon). We never did think of a good Scott, although I was happy with the choice. Arrogant frat boy prick that pissed me off, just like the comic books. We thought Jean Grey should have been Brooke Shield, but looking back that was a stupid idea.
Thank God Marvel has their eyes on ACTORS not movie stars... by Johnny Ahab	Feb 8th, 2003 04:58:52 PM
...okay, with exception of Ben Affleck as DD, but that's a property that wouldn't've gotten financed without a star. Molina works for me too, and I didn't see it coming either. Smart smart smart casting will keep the Marvel line going. As for the other Spidey villian suggestions, yeah, Larry Drake woulda been a great Doc Ock -- ten years ago. Saw him in the unreleased film last year and he's old. Too old to be dangling in harnesses and doing action stuff. I mean, you'd seriously worry about the guy. And Christopher Lee as the Vulture? Again, too old - Yeah, the Vulture is older, but he's gotta be able to do all the aerial stunts and kick some ass in hand to hand combat. There is only one choice for the Vulture, and I put it up here a year or two ago: Ben Kingsley. Go look at his snarling, feral, scary-as-shit performance in "Sexy Beast", and see if you're not convinced. (Although Spidey 3 won't hit till 2006, so you hope he's not too old by then.) But that's my call for Spider-Man 3: BEN KINGSLEY AS THE VULTURE.
Off-top by Even_Se7ven	Feb 8th, 2003 05:00:50 PM
My Big Fat Geek wacking , where the fuck are the final chapters of your AICN Films We Wish To Cover from j to zzzzzzzzzz.......grrrr..you are such a lazy arseee...stop your hARCHIE Knowles routine and get back on the saddle again.....or for once !!! Unless, I missed them ? Does anyone knows... Knowles is like Lucash, it's all about cheap promises....but when things starts to get real...where's the shit ?
Elton John IS Doctor Octopus by Jaymin Pepper	Feb 8th, 2003 05:07:33 PM
What, did he turn it down?
you hear all those clicks and buzzes? by Shanghai Goon	Feb 8th, 2003 05:13:37 PM
The sounds of tens of thousands of fanboy VCRs simultaneously starting up, each with a copy of "Raiders of the Lost Ark" in it's bowels. Impatiently, they wait to judge... Is Alfy a worthy enough choice to portray OUR precious Otto Octavius.
When was he offered ? by Even_Se7ven	Feb 8th, 2003 05:15:44 PM
The Elton's rumour was cool and shiny like 5-6 years ago. It was the obvious choice for all the Mister geek Obvious out there. Look isn't everything, Dock needs to be played by a good actor. Elton John ishhhh....it's a crazy idea....man......Molina an interesting...at least...it seems that Raimi is more interested in this franchise than you........maybe we should ask Dolph Lundgren to play Thor.... Just imagine the title song....SPIDER MANNNNNNNNNN.......tobey could even play the piano...and he could play charades between battles !
Gyllenhal by Even_Se7ven	Feb 8th, 2003 05:26:47 PM
Man...we're already talking about the third one and the second one isn't in sperm-production yet.....geeez.....since I wasn't a fan of the first one. I liked it....it was a popcorn flick....but it wasn't in the same league as movies like LOTR, The Matrix, IJ, X-men, Supe 1-2, the OT and all the gang of these type of movies. I hate franchi$$$$$$$e.....and I don't feel like the webslinger mythology is 'nuff interesting to hold beyond 2 movies....shit.....look at LOTR...make long 12 hours series....look at the matrix....same fucking thing....Daredevil....if any good....could make a good trilogy...with the Kingpin replacing Sarumane...and making a hellfest of 6 hours sbout blind man struggles against the evil out there.
HEY!! This guy was in "CABIN BOY"!!!!! by Elgyn6655321	Feb 8th, 2003 05:59:55 PM
It`s true, he was in the very beginning. He`s the teacher when Chris Elliot was giving his presentation on hat-tipping.
Fetterific...are you serious? by QHULK	Feb 8th, 2003 06:44:42 PM
Hahahahaha....i'm hoping you're not serious but let's assume you are. Spider-man: created in the early '60s. Return of the Jedi: released in the mid '80s. Power-man and Iron Fist: don't look anything like Han and Chewie. You smoke some great drugs, but maybe if you shared them others would see the crazy stuff that you do, too! Swamp Thing: well, Stan had no hand in that one as it was published by the Distinguished Competition...DC Comics. hahahahahahaha. And since Swamp Thing was created in the early '70s before we heard anything about Yoda...well...need I say more? George Lucas got the original ideas for Star Wars by imitating Jack Kirby. Darth Vader with his skull-like metal mask and armor hiding his scarred body and face is a carbon copy of Doctor Doom from the Fantastic Four (which Jack created). And the father/son clash between Luke and Vader is nothing more than a shameless copy of the conflict between Orion and Darkseid from Jack's New Gods. (Released in 1970-1971 Orion battles his father Darkseid and wields the Astro-Force, derived from the mysterious Source...sound familiar, anyone?)
halconmilenario, sounds about right on Satipo by Toht	Feb 8th, 2003 07:14:06 PM
After Indy confronts the dead, impaled-on-spikes Alfred Molina in Raiders, he mutters "Adios, Sapito", and not, to my ears anyways, "Satipo". It's something that's always bothered me, and the spanish meaning of the name is an interesting touch. Cheers for the clarification. DP
BAUF by ledbetter51	Feb 8th, 2003 09:51:46 PM
If your big argument is character depth, then I'll give you Kraven, but are you seriously telling me that Vulture, Scorpion, and Chameleon are deeper characters than Venom? Vulture's just an old guy in a lame-ass flying suit who steals shit - a common thief with wings. Scorpion's just a hired thug with a mechanical tail. Chameleon's just another version of the shapeshifter we've seen in 56789 other movies & TV shows except that he's also a whiney little bitch. Venom has more than enough for one movie. A normal guy who feels like he gets screwed by S-M. Turns into Spidey's "my entire purpose in life is to kill you" villain. Certainly not the deepest character ever written, but at least as good as 90% of Spidey's gallery. I think you dismiss him far too quickly. And besides all of that, it's really starting to come across as an "I hate McFarlane" thing, which is understandable, but Todd didn't create the character. You could say he did the visual design, but all he really did there was put a mouth on a costume that already exsisted. If this is between you and McFarlane, leave Venom out of it. As far as Carnage, I thought he was cool until they put him in a story that lasted longer than 3 issues. I'll give you the lack of depth there. And on a more or less unrelated note, I think it would be damn cool to see some of Spidey's "lesser" villians in short scenes. Example (heavily inspired by Ultimate S-M): At the very beginning of a movie Spidey hilariously embarasses Shocker during an attempted bank robbery.
Roy Orbison should've played him! by Harryhausen	Feb 8th, 2003 10:58:24 PM
Man, dudes, dudettes, the late, great Roy Orbison was Otto Octavius! Molina is a good choice, if, for nothing else, the acting gimmick we Brits know him for - he tries to work an impersonation of late British comedian Tommy Cooper into every role he plays.
Hmm... by DaFacerRules	Feb 8th, 2003 11:10:55 PM
If Alfred Molina is Doc Ock then shouldn't Harrison Ford have a cameo as his assistant?
BadAss Uncle Fucka by Ribbons	Feb 9th, 2003 01:14:39 AM
I agree with you, for the most part, on Venom and Carnage. I think, for me at least, that Venom became less interesting the more he appeared in comics. However, I do think that he has the makings of an interesting character onscreen. It's simply up to the filmmakers to connect the dots and flesh out his character, if they so choose. But Marvel did him wrong, I'd wager. Because he was so immensely popular, they exploited his "badassness" instead of developing him ("I....we...want to eat brains! Yum!"). Carnage existed chiefly for two or three reasons: 1)Marvel thought he was "hip" because he was a serial killer (even though he was a total dumbass) who was basically, and I think somebody already said this, the ADD version of Venom. I think the House of Ideas just took a bunch of 11-year old kids to see'Natural Born Killers' and asked them what they thought about Venom 2)Can't get enough of those crazy symbiotes (Hybrid, anyone?)! and 3)he was a punk that the primary asskicker, Venom, could school when push came to shove, almost like a "down, boy" kind of relationship there for you to appreciate Venom's coolness even more. By the way, it is indeed sad that fans of this site are being discouraged from sticking around, but look on the bright side: maybe now George is off somewhere ending the long-standing war between dogs and cats or painting murals for retarded children.
Elton John IS Janet Reno by Electric Tsunami	Feb 9th, 2003 02:18:12 AM
Brilliant casting decisions.
No no NO!! Fuck this, get Jack Black!! by TheGinger Twit	Feb 9th, 2003 03:01:04 AM
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Where's The Lizard? by Mako	Feb 9th, 2003 03:44:53 AM
I don't care about Doc... I'm getting worried that I haven't heard all that much about The Lizard, and he's a much more interesting villan than Doc is...
More important than who plays Ock! by The Biomind	Feb 9th, 2003 06:15:16 AM
I.m.o. SMALLVILE shows us the best incarnation of Supes/Clark ever presented on ANY screen - even though Clark never wears the suit. The whole point of the series is to see, what finally will destroy the friendship between Clark and Lex. It makes me furious to think, that WB will probabyl totally ignore the continuity of the current tv-series! You build a franchise by INCORPARATING the events of a successfull tv-seriesn, not by IGNORING it. Folks will walkout the cinema and say: "BUT didn't Clark Kent and Lex Luthor meet in Clark's hometown Smallville???" Why doesn't Lex recognize the reporter Clark Kent, when he meets him in Metropolis???" WB will try turning SUPERMAN into a trilogy a la STAR WARS or LOTR. The movie will be great - if you are not a fan of the Man Of Steel.
Spider-Man SUCKS compared to Supes - BUT WB should not ignore SM by The Biomind	Feb 9th, 2003 06:23:37 AM
SMALLVILE shows us the best incarnation of Supes/Clark ever presented on ANY screen - even though Clark never wears the suit. The whole point of the series is to see, what finally will destroy the friendship between Clark and Lex. It makes me furious to think, that WB will probabyl totally ignore the continuity of the current tv-series! You build a franchise by INCORPARATING the events of a successfull tv-seriesn, not by IGNORING it! People will walkout the cinema and say: "BUT didn't Clark Kent and Lex Luthor meet in Clark's hometown Smallville???" Why doesn't Lex recognize the reporter Clark Kent, when he meets him in Metropolis???" WB will try turning SUPERMAN into a trilogy a la STAR WARS or LOTR. The movie will be great - if you are not a fan of the Man Of Steel.
I found the 1st SPIDER-MAN movie boring by The Biomind	Feb 9th, 2003 06:26:56 AM
And i.m.o. Kirsten Dunst is not attractive. She is certainly not ugly, but she is no way pretty.
SPIDER-MAN was not that great! by Dart Voldemort	Feb 9th, 2003 06:40:25 AM
I really don't care about a second SPIDER-MAN movie. I want to see the Mann Of Steel on the big screen. But I think that WB should not ignore the continuity of the SMALLVILLE tv series, because SMALLVILE is pretty good.
Rick Moranis by Pazuzu	Feb 9th, 2003 07:44:24 AM
Think about it
Molina's great BUT BRENDAN GLEESON IS DOC OCK by SonnyChiba	Feb 9th, 2003 09:04:10 AM
Braveheart, Michael Collins, The General, Lake Placid, MI2, A.I., Gangs of New York. He's a great character actor too, just check him out in Tailor of Panama. He's OCK
Venom casting.... by Misled_Youth	Feb 9th, 2003 09:15:34 AM
I'm saying that Brock Lesnar, the pro wrestler would be a perfect Venom. The guys built like a brick shit house, has the exact haircut and generally looks like Eddie Brock in general. Plus he has the whole "Me eat brains, save innocents" level of intelligence aswell.
Villians...meh by JazzWarrior	Feb 9th, 2003 09:41:17 AM
Spidey's villian always seemed a bit pansy-ish to me. Except for Kraven who is just baddass.
Venom/Carnage.. by Moviaddict	Feb 9th, 2003 11:30:03 AM
If I were casting I would chose Christopher Merloni, his bit role as the soon to be executed prisoner in the beginning of Fallen would match Carnage's character. Personally I think Doc Oc sucks, sorry to all you comic fans but I'd rather see a CGI driven megalomaniac than a fat retro villain created during a time when most entertainment outlets lacked edge and vision.
THE REAL DOC OCK.... by drudgejr	Feb 9th, 2003 12:20:45 PM
CHRIS ROCK AS DOC ACK HORATION SANZ AS SPIDER MAN SPIDER MAN II
man you are everywhere by Even_Se7ven	Feb 9th, 2003 12:25:03 PM
get a life towie....do you want that all but the Bush administrations knows about your little fettish clones.....why are these TBS not funny anymore.....go read the old ones....even the Flame wars were LOL's funny......now it's getting boring and complicated....unknown pretending to be another unknown.....guess what happens at the end....nobody cares Towie....you could be Steven Spielberg.....but if you aren't bringing up good points or funny shit....you are a waste....i'm not better than you myself...I came here for the news and a good laugh....but at least i'm not pretending....i'm assuming....if the real fett wants to be the KENNY of this webtown.....good for him...I can live with it...with impersonator who destroys potentially good TBS....well...I feel sad...for him and the tbs suffers.......anyway....who cares anymore...Harry was the king like 2-3 years ago....this site is like the paths of dead of the web......
what i want to know by carouselambra	Feb 9th, 2003 12:52:52 PM
is why alfred molina is on so many god-awful terrible tv shows? that's a poor indication, to me, even if he's done some nice movie work.
Billy Bob by riskebiz	Feb 9th, 2003 01:45:24 PM
Although I think this a smart idea if it's true Alfred's got the role, I still think Billy Bob Thornton would have been a fun Dr. Ocotopus.
DITKO by TomVee	Feb 9th, 2003 04:33:38 PM
"I would rather see all of Ditkos villains, then John Romita Srs than Venom" Ditko, who is understandably unknown by the latest generation or two of comic book fans, defined SPIDERMAN. To this day, you can see echoes of Ditko's influence in any SPIDEY comic. As primitive as Ditko's style was, he is right up there with Kubert and Adams as major innovators in the field. It strikes me that hunter guy with the fur wrapped around his shoulders would be perfect for a SPIDEY movie partly because there would be little need for CGI. Which reminds me, the previews for HULK on TV are embarassing. Every shot of the Hulk looks like the movie has switched over to a cartoon, just like the old SUPERMAN serials of the 1940s. Dump CGI!
Sure - sounds good to me by WeedyMcSmokey	Feb 9th, 2003 04:49:26 PM
And since that I'm the smartest guy I know, I'd say y'all should just fall in line. Watched Spiderman again last month and I fell asleep after Peter makes his first kill. I love the growing into the superhero part, not so much the being the superhero part. Too perfunctory, too formula. But a good script and a good screenplay however, combined with actors of Molina's calibre and this could be a good sequel. I still fail to see how anyone can be disapointed with Tobey MacGuire - he did a good job with a story we've heard a million times before. He was pretty real. Or maybe he was real pretty. Bi-curious?
ALDRED (NOT) THE BUTLER by TomVee	Feb 9th, 2003 04:56:23 PM
"im a massive fan of Indiana Jones, never heard of this guy though" If you want to see Molina playing a truly unpleasant villain, check out NOT WITHOUT MY DAUGHTER. This Sally Field vanity project takes on horror film overtones thanks to Molina as a nefarious Arab.
Molina by Fleagle	Feb 9th, 2003 06:51:26 PM
If you want to check out a good Alfred Molina performance, track down a film called "Prick Up Your Ears" (clever anagram) about the gay playwrite Joe Orton (Gary Oldman) and his partner and eventual murderer Keith Halliwell (Molina). Good flick.
Doc Ock rules... by buttonface	Feb 9th, 2003 06:55:20 PM
but what about Harry as the "new" green goblin? I hope Raimi doesnt completely brush off Harry's character...as we all know, he DOES don the tights (or in this case, the plastic) to avenge his dear old dad...Im just saying...
Yeah, I agree even though Venom/Carnage would be cool to see I t by screenplaywriter	Feb 9th, 2003 07:20:07 PM
Spider-Man facing off against Harry Osborne a.k.a. The Green Goblin and either Hobgoblin, or The Vulture. A two-person face-off with either one of those two other villians would be awesome. Think: SPIDER-MAN doing aerial-combat against two guys who can fly. It would be cool to see.
I think Doc Ock should die like this... by screenplaywriter	Feb 9th, 2003 07:26:31 PM
As he is grabbing Spider-Man with two of his tentacles (choking him) he asks Spider-Man if he has any last requests, or anything left to say and Spider-Man just smiles and says "Here's web in your eye" and sprays him with webbing, blinding him. Spider-Man escapes, Doc Ock tries to find him, while still trying to claw away the webbing. Spider-Man does some cartwheels, flips, and rolls trying to avoid the tentacles, eventually Doc Ock peels off the webbing, he sees Spider-Man and launches the tentacles at him once more, only Spider-Man moves out of the way. The tentacles hit a high-voltage area electrifying Doc Ock, electricity flows out inside and outside through his body. Finally, the man slumps down dead.
to those that say Spiderman had the worst villains and "The Matr by sundown	Feb 9th, 2003 09:51:28 PM
What it comes down to is if you don't like the source material...fine then move along and get on the line to the Matrix. Who are you to judge what is worthy of multiple films. The Matrix was a pretty good one shot. The fact they are stretching it to 3 (and they are) means they better have some good stuff to steal...oops I mean stuff up their sleave. Has Otomo put out another film they can crib yet? Maybe another Gibson novel? Point is any of these genre stories can be continued and if the writing is ok it will hold up. I'm sure the writing on the Matrix is fine but I'm also sure the writing on Spiderman is too. I fail to see how some can say Spidey doesn;t deserve a sequel but Xmen and Matrix do when Spidey ran circles around those films in every way and has a richer and longer history. I'm not saying they don't deserve sequels but rather how can one say they do and Spidey doesn't? but once again its the old TB mentality of this must suck because my crap is better. Its all the same shit in the end. So I dig Spideys mythology a lot. The boy who grows into a man, the hero that grows up and through innocence is able to conquer all, through shear force of will. That's what makes Spidey outlast DD, the Punisher, the Xmen and the rest. So the blind man fighting the Kingpin over three films (although I fail to see the likeness to Sauron but I guess you fanboys have to equate everything) would be great but I'd rather see Spidey over the coruse of 5 or 6 great films. It could be the longest running highest quality franchise. Spideys villains lack the annoying melodrama of Batman and unlike Batman's actually present a physical threat. He has the strongets gallery...any Goblin could chew up all of Batmans villains. I'd love to see Sandman and scorpion physically represented...the return of the Green Goblin with Harry and the Sinister Six, the point is Spiderman is hip deep in it with far more powerful enemies but he fights and wins anyway. And I WOULD like to see Venom and Carnage and so would many others...they could be written and acted well. Spiderman didn;t go down the toilet until Maximum Clonage so as long as they stay away from that crap it'll be fine.
I'm just curious but by Meathook	Feb 9th, 2003 11:44:56 PM
do any of you ever get laid, or do you spend your Friday and Saturday nights playing magic in your mall? I know harry doesn't. He's lucky his fat ass got a job otherwise he'd be completely useless and living with his mother. Oh wait, he already is, isn't he?
Random thoughts by Ribbons	Feb 10th, 2003 12:49:26 AM
Screenplaywriter, you gone and done it again. The sad thing is, I can actually see that happening at the climax. Anyways, I DO think that Venom could work as a "villain," (sorry BAUF, read my post) but he would have to be more dynamic than the protagonist, which I know some members of this friendly little community aren't too keen on. The Lizard would make a better foe because he is immediately more interesting and compliments the character of Spidey well without necessarily overpowering it. But Venom could be the catharsis of the movie, a ruined psycho to Spider-Man's lapsed Catholic, and even though he would have to be wrong, the trick is making him seem right. But, yeah, he could definitely work, even though I'd rather see the Lizard first. Sundown is right: there could be five or so really good movies in this series (although, sorry dude, I don't agree with your idea of the Sinister Six at all. Bad Guy Team-Ups generally make me shudder), ideally ending with Harry's Green Goblin. Although, with a franchise like this, that probably won't happen. Like the Headgeek said about Barbershop, "the first one was successful, so they'll do it 'til it isn't." Plus, this genre is too potentially lucrative for the studio to end this franchise with any integrity, and Marvel would probably like to see its continuation as well. After all, "superhero good. make money. more superhero." (thanks for that, anonymous Talkbacker). But as long as there's a filmmaker out there who wants to make a Spider-Man movie, that's cool, even though it's not MY all-important ideal. My only concern is that the studio(s) will find someone to do the movie for them, when a filmmaker should more or less find a studio to do the movie for, if that makes any sense. I still believe comic book movies could remain good ones, and I also believe that we tend to worry about these films for the wrong reasons (that looked like wire-fu: this movie will suck! that CGI isn't real enough for my liking: this movie will suck! what the hell? Allan Quartermain's not supposed to be suave and confident: this movie will suck!). In the end, though, most people appreciate the final product for what it is. To be fair, some fears are justified, especially with the WB, who seem to think that everyone but they are as dumb as a rock. Maybe the devil's in the details, but all their movies in development, especially Catwoman, seem incredibly contrived. What am I trying to say? Basically, respect the movies you make, and moviegoers will come. Jesus, I can't believe it took me this many words to say that. The Matrix: fucking brilliant. Kangaroo Jack: fucking wank. And yes, I know I have no life. I don't like my lot. Sometimes I even consider suicide. You smartasses don't have to tell me.
He's also the guy who scored with the alien/human in Species. by SLASH0723	Feb 10th, 2003 02:24:01 AM

People I want to see play "The Black Cat" by screenplaywriter	Feb 10th, 2003 01:21:57 PM
People I want to see: Tara Reid-Cute and adorable, she might make a good Black Cat, but I see her more as a Gwen Stacy. Shannon Elizabeth-Grrowl Rachel Leigh Cook-She dyed her hair red for "Josie" why can't she dye it blonde for this? Or anybody around Toby's age that's a blonde, is hot, and can fit into tight latex. People I don't want to see: Britney Spears-She would be hot in the cat outfit, but sadly she can't act. Gwen Stefani-I once saw like "future developments" of the Spidey 2 toys and they showed Black Cat kind of looking like her and yes I know it would be a bad idea to cast her as this. Mary Kate-and Ashley-somebody get these kids a new line of work besides direct-to-video-movies.
People I want to see play "The Black Cat" by screenplaywriter	Feb 10th, 2003 01:21:59 PM
People I want to see: Tara Reid-Cute and adorable, she might make a good Black Cat, but I see her more as a Gwen Stacy. Shannon Elizabeth-Grrowl Rachel Leigh Cook-She dyed her hair red for "Josie" why can't she dye it blonde for this? Or anybody around Toby's age that's a blonde, is hot, and can fit into tight latex. People I don't want to see: Britney Spears-She would be hot in the cat outfit, but sadly she can't act. Gwen Stefani-I once saw like "future developments" of the Spidey 2 toys and they showed Black Cat kind of looking like her and yes I know it would be a bad idea to cast her as this. Mary Kate-and Ashley-somebody get these kids a new line of work besides direct-to-video-movies.
Okay, I mentioned how I think Doc Ock will die, but here's how I by screenplaywriter	Feb 10th, 2003 01:30:40 PM
1. They find a serum to change him back to his normal form, but the man still has one arm. 2. They can't reverse the process so he remains a side-show freak so Spider-Man delivers him to the public zoo and tells Doc Connors's wife that he'll never be the same, but she can come and see him whenever she likes to remember inside who he truly was. 3. Have Doc Ock just kill him with his tentacles. 4. Or Spider-Man fights him in a sewer (because aligators, or crocodiles love sewers) suddenly a current picks up inside and The Lizard is swept away never to be seen again. I dunno 1. and 3. sound good to me.
Mike Myers should play Doc Oc by Hate_Speech	Feb 10th, 2003 02:35:23 PM
In fact, they should pay him ONE MILLION DOLLARS!
Brock Lesnar for The Rhino! COME ON MAKE IT HAPPEN! by screenplaywriter	Feb 10th, 2003 08:42:10 PM
I mean the guy is dumb because of too many headshots to the head, he has muscles the size of a gorilla's arm, and he could easily F-5 and kick the living shit out Spider-Man in like 5 minutes.
Hey screenwhriter by Mantis17	Feb 12th, 2003 01:30:29 AM
What makes you think that Doc Ock is going to die at all? Just because they killed of GG doesn't mean they're going to kill off the main villain in every movie (ala MOST of the Batman franchise.) I'm not a total expert on the Spiderman comic series but I believe that the GG was killed off fairly early on, wasn't he? So it made sence to kill GG off in the movie for that reason and also because they can use it to set up for Harry Osborn becoming the Hobgoblin. Doc Ock, I believe, is still a recurring villain in the series or at least endured alot longer than GG. They may keep him alive. To get back on subject I agree that Alfred Molina's casting is downright perfect. He is a good actor but not very well known (which is a good thing) and he has the right look.
Uh...Harry is The Green Goblin dude, not the Hobgoblin. by screenplaywriter	Feb 12th, 2003 10:21:34 PM
And why wouldn't they want to kill off Doc Ock? I mean think about it. Doc Ock eventually dies in the comic books like every villian every superhero has faced. I mean why would they want to save him up for more sequels? I say get it done and over with and go onto the next pair of villians. I mean because if they bring a villian back it's just rehasing and remixing what was done in the original before it. "STAR WARS" however did this with ease because Darth Vader was such a compelling, torn, messed up character and they didn't rehash on their movies so much, now with the prequels they sort of do, but that's another story. Anywho, I say kill Doc Ock in the end and go onto whatever villians Sam Raimi wants.

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