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CONFIRMED!!! CLONE WARS Animated Series on CARTOON NETWORK!!!

This Is Wonderful.... by EricAlan69	Nov 13th, 2002 06:08:50 PM
....as long as it pans out, and Harry isn't hallucinating, of course. Bring on the animated Clone War. // e.
Kinda Cool by Darth Melkor	Nov 13th, 2002 06:11:35 PM
Perhaps Episode 3 won't be the end of Star Wars. It can live on in books and this way. At least a show about the Clone Wars has the potential to be cool... unlike a certain other Lucasfilm cartoon series about furry inhabitants of Endor.
Rouge Squadron by Cassius Clay	Nov 13th, 2002 06:12:15 PM
Whatever happened to the Classic Era Rouge Squadron rumor? That would have been cool. 50-60 episodes in 2 years? That will be tough to pull off. Looks like plenty of jobs on the horizon if you live in Korea...
JAR JAR RACERS forever! by SnapT	Nov 13th, 2002 06:12:25 PM
I want a cartoon Jar Jar racing people in his pod NOW. Jar Jar Binks = BEST POD RACER EVER. http://www.superosity.com/d/20 000319.html
Now this is grand. by Nordling	Nov 13th, 2002 06:12:50 PM
Will Jedi be in it? Our heroes, Anakin, Obi-Wan, Yoda, et al? CGI? 2-D? Rotoscoping? Pencil and paper? Fucking crayon? The mind boggles. Now, I can't see anyone complaining about this. This could open up some serious characterization and make the fall of Anakin much more interesting. I'm looking forward to this.
Droids ruled! by JacksonsBane	Nov 13th, 2002 06:17:21 PM
Wish it came back on da TV.
This sounds great!! by Counterpunch	Nov 13th, 2002 06:19:35 PM
For me to poop on! If this happens, I hope this isn't some watered down, kiddie version of a Star Wars series. I want something that truely kicks my ass and takes no names, in animation. CN is doing one heck of a job with getting some mature properties like JLA and some heavy anime stuff. So until i start seeing some more info on this series, i will save my enthusiasm for Ep 3. "who shot who in the what now?"
who da man? yo da man! yoda da man! by aphekqs	Nov 13th, 2002 06:21:46 PM
meh. it might be cool, but it'll probably suck, just like the ewoks animated series.
Deep, easy breaths... by MCVamp	Nov 13th, 2002 06:29:32 PM
A successful Clone Wars cartoon might open up the possibilities of post-Jedi stories as well. Man, done properly, Clone Wars would rule ass. All asses. Even yours, over there. Hell, maybe ILM will do it as an all-CGI series. Yeah right. But as long as there are no annoying kids thrown in as regulars and the animation is better than the cookie-cutter norm of current kid's cartoons, it'll rock. Maybe if it was done in the style of SPAWN or THE MAXX.
No offense Counterpunch, but... by GenericGeek	Nov 13th, 2002 06:31:44 PM
...Star Wars IS a watered down, kiddie version of Star Wars. As will be this cartoon, I'm afraid. In fact, I'm sure you can summarize it in two words: Toy Commercial.
I pray to god this means more badass yoda fighting by OGREISHERE	Nov 13th, 2002 06:32:40 PM
I jizzed my pants when i saw this my god this is to cool for words.
Please use 2-D cell animation mixed with CGI. by Declan_Swartz	Nov 13th, 2002 06:39:53 PM
I hate modern 2-D cartoons with cell-less animation. The colors are so drab compared traditinal paints. Cell animation with CGI elements can look fine though. Just not all CGI, unless it is all 3-D.
adult swim jedi style by kiimo	Nov 13th, 2002 06:47:40 PM
Can you imagine how cool Clone Wars would be done in the style of Cowboy Beebop? THAT would be nice. And really, kinda how I want Star Wars to be anyway.
Star Wars belongs on Cartoon Network by fun guy	Nov 13th, 2002 06:47:54 PM
It's all animated nowadays anyway. They should just release Episode 3 as a TV movie for Cartoon Network.
I think its a great idea if....... by inkymae	Nov 13th, 2002 06:49:26 PM
Lucas gets someone like Paul Dini and Bruce Timm involved and let them handle everything. Also, it needs to have Obi-wan, Anakin, Yoda, Mace-Windu etc in the thing. I'm afraid Lucas will be afraid of the animators destroying his precious mythology he will insist on having the main characters be other Jedi that we have never seen before. who were those idiots that owned 3P0 and R2 in "droids" anyway? I think they may have been the replacement Duke brothers from Hazard county.
by kiimo	Nov 13th, 2002 06:51:24 PM
They keep changing the lineup of Adult Swim anyway.
sounds great by talbuckin	Nov 13th, 2002 06:53:34 PM
certainly it doesw sounds great. I hope they do it right, knowing Lucas likes anime. I can
Could be good, could suck JarJar's ass... by RenoNevada2000	Nov 13th, 2002 07:06:35 PM
Definitely a wait and see kinda deal... I know that ILM has been itching to get into CG Animation a la PIXAR, etc ever since their FRANKENSTEIN project at Universal was shot down a few years back. Perhaps they might use this as a way of getting their foot in the water?
Yick by JBiddle	Nov 13th, 2002 07:10:31 PM
I swear I could smell Harry creaming his pants all the way over here in Canada. Take a fucking pill, guy, before your heart explodes.
Most of Episode 2 was a cartoon so this is fitting! by IAmLegolas	Nov 13th, 2002 07:20:10 PM
pats himself on the back for that witty remark
Clown Wars by Tony Mike Hall	Nov 13th, 2002 07:25:05 PM
what a farce this will be. i guess lucas has to find a way to maintain his lifestyle once he's done with the third installment. and targeting kids is definitely the way to go - they won't be able to tell the difference between a well-told story and pile of shit marketing extravanganza. Everything brown!
What they SHOULD do to make this great. by Vorkin	Nov 13th, 2002 07:26:10 PM
is give this show to mainframe entertainment, the makers of ReBoot, Shadow Raiders/War Planets, and Beast Wars. Mainframe has always made the best CG TV shows. Their writing and stories rule, and aren't watered down for the kiddies much at all.
in Widescreen, please... by lynxpro	Nov 13th, 2002 07:28:26 PM
More people will have widescreen televisions by the time this show debuts...please, letterbox the show... and try to get some of the actual actors from the movies to do voicework...
Excitement building... by Toonimator	Nov 13th, 2002 07:28:42 PM
...but it must NOT BE totally 3D. We don't need creepy Max Steel versions of Obi-Wan and Anakin running around. We DO need some nicely styled 2D versions of these guys. While I'd love to have Yoda & Mace as recurring (often!) characters, with much Jedi battling, Anakin & Obi-Wan would be too restricted as main characters. No peril for them really, and Anakin would probably display too much of the brash Anakin we got so little of in Ep 2 (ie, the FUN Anakin), and not much of the whiny, disturbed, and oh-so-obviously teetering on the edge of Dark & Light that he was at the end of Ep 2. His relationship with Padme wouldn't be much fun, as there's no relationship building, they're already married! No, they'll probably focus on another Jedi, perhaps a council member (NOT KI-ADI-MUNDI! Got sick of him in the comic), and that Jedi Master's Padawan. One of them will be more responsible than the other. One of the main characters will be female, and they'll either have a Jedi-Jedi romantic angle or toss in a Han Solo-like rogue (with a ship!) to be a sidekick, taking the Jedi to the site of the next battle, or as a potential romantic interest for another character. Droids'll be there, hopefully not 3PO and R2 (just guest-spots, even if frequent, along with Anakin & Obi-Wan). Mace & Yoda will probably turn up more frequently as consultants and for mucho Yoda-with-the-Force action. Bad guys will be tough, unless they introduce random Dark Jedi (or, more likely, ONE new non-Sith Dark Jedi, failed student of the main character). Dooku and Sidious will be shadowy and not directly confrontational, the Dr. Claws of the series. Ships & the like, maybe even droids, should be CGed and toon-shaded. Plenty of space battles, Jedi Starfighters & all (Ep 2 was sorely lacking in that! So was Ep 1, really, the battle w/ the Control Ship was pretty dull). But they do need new characters as protagonists, so stuff can happen to them. Relationships, temptations to the Dark Side, death even. I'd love a good Rogue Squadron series, but it'd be severely lacking in the Force. All we'd get is Corran Horn having some intuitions and finding out his origins really, not a big presence. Well, I won't hold my breath for this Star Wars animated series, but I'll keep track of it with great interest!
Birds of Prey? Frakazoid? Batman Beyond? CLERKS THE ANIMATED SER by chuckrussel	Nov 13th, 2002 07:28:49 PM
'nuff said!
wait a sec... by lynxpro	Nov 13th, 2002 07:29:29 PM
I take that back. Considering how flat (and I'm not talking physically) Portman's acting has been, especially with vocal inflections, I vote they get actor voice actors to lend voices...
space ghost by WinSToN SMITHs	Nov 13th, 2002 07:35:31 PM
that's pretty cool.. star wars always seemed like a really good cartoon made into real life. which i think is why i like it. it reminds me so damn much of the old space ghost.. the villains all sitting around the chair plotting, the lame lines during battle, the way it's not supposed to be taken seriously at all. a million other things. and yeah i think the best possible approach would be if ILM did it in cell style CGI type stuff.. as long as they don't just go with this shitty new action animation style like justice league.. i'd rather it be like that christmas special cartoon with boba fett. the people were terrible but the spacehips looked damned nice. oh, an anime would be good too but maybe kinda lame. of course there's a huge possibility they'll just fuck it up, but even if that happens i know i'll at least catch the pilot ep. not because i'm a huge fan but just because i have no life and anything carrying the slightest hype sucks me in because there's nothing else to keep me going. i'm not being cynical.
I think this is a great idea by laguna_loire	Nov 13th, 2002 07:39:52 PM
Just that once-again it shouldn't be printed here. It makes me laugh how many people chide Star Wars now but they secretly have a good wank at home over their DVD of Episode II!! Damn!! I wish Jay and Silent Bob were here right now!! I do think that this has the potential to be damn good.
kicking ass by Master T-MACK	Nov 13th, 2002 07:42:23 PM
Good, Lucas done right. This is the perfect thing to not only pass the time, but get people interested and pumped for the SWIII. The series shouldn't be anime...NO WAY!...but how they gonna get the voices? It is Star Wars, so they'd keep tyhe same voices I believe. It's be kicking ass to here Ewan do voice-over!
Will this be considered CARTOON? uh, yeah... by Tony Mike Hall	Nov 13th, 2002 07:58:06 PM
Can cartoons be made part of the official, Lucas-sanctioned Star Wars Universe? I just don't know - we may need to have a meeting about this. In the meantime, I would like each of you to submit an essay on the inter-relation between potential Star Wars cartoons and the rest of the Star Wars legitimate expanded universe, including novels, novellas, filmstrips, 2-XL 8 track tapes, and Burger King glasses. Will they be making action figures of the new cartoon characters? Will they be part of the canonized universe? Will I be able to afford them? So many questions...
Please, let it be anime-style... by Human Tornado	Nov 13th, 2002 08:05:48 PM
... and please! let Kia Asamya or Hisao Tamaki be in charge of character design...
Anyone think this will actually work? by MyNameDoesn'tFit	Nov 13th, 2002 08:06:17 PM
Hopefully Lucas will write all the scripts himself! Oh, that's right, you can't see me rolling my eyes.
No sense getting excited over it right now by TimBenzedrine	Nov 13th, 2002 08:06:41 PM
It'll be 2-3 years before we see anything. May as well relax everyone, there's plenty of stuff out there to enjoy until then.
What the hell was up with that shiny Ewok rock by chickenmonkey	Nov 13th, 2002 08:22:26 PM
that looked like a glowing yin-yang bar of Tone soap? I never got that. As for Clone Wars, I dread animated Jar Jar, more than that fucked-up gerbil they had in Punky Brewster's Animated adventures. I fear this project will soon go the way of animated Rubik and Q-Bert. All licensing, no innovation. I think Adult Swim would be better served re-airing Pee-Wee's Playhouse. Anybody got any weed?
JUST SAY NO TO CLONES!!!!!! by Mcfarlane	Nov 13th, 2002 08:27:39 PM
if anything from uncle george should get animated, it should be from the mind of Kevin Rubio. He is the guy responsible for TROOPS... however... anyone who reads dark horse comics will know of his genius for STAR WARS comedy with classics such as A DEATH STAR IS BORN, FORCE FICTION and the TAG AND BINK series and THE REVENGE OF TAG AND BINK. Now these babies deserve to be animated... even if they are just a hidden easter egg on a DVD of a DROIDS Reissue or as a LUCASFILM bonus on an official authorised release of TROOPS.
Okay, I'm a big Dini/Timm fan... by enigmainyourhead	Nov 13th, 2002 08:47:25 PM
... but why the hell would anyone want them to work on it? Timm's style is getting old, we've already seen 4 series in his style. I'd be much happier to see it done similar to the X-Men Evolution style. Dat's some goood stuff. Even the new He-Man seems pretty fresh looking compared to Timmness
by Saviano	Nov 13th, 2002 08:51:12 PM
So if the title of the cartoon is to be "Clone Wars", does that mean that it will actually show the Clone Wars? And if the show the Clone War in the cartoon, what possibly could EpIII be about? I hate Lucas. bastard.
Send in the Clones by The Raven	Nov 13th, 2002 08:56:27 PM
I've waited 25 years for an incontinuity Star Wars on-goings series. Let's hope Obi-Wan,k Anakin, and Amidala have a larger presence than Luke, Han and, Leia did in Droids.
Could be decent as long as it's not 'hip' or 'edgy' by KONG33	Nov 13th, 2002 09:18:18 PM
like, no 'streamlined' Portman outfit. No cocky/sassy kid voice for Anakin... no dumb droid jokes. Cool, hideous, maybe even frightening monsters...resembling the EMPIRE... Great writers...no slack animation (that'll never happen), something genuinely fun (with WATTO!). You know, it's funny how the guys who made the original SUPERMAN cartoons were working that hard just to make an episode they figured would soon be forgotten. Today, animators KNOW the show will probably last for some time, but take nowhere near the time to perfect it. I wonder what could be interesting or fun about this show - after seeing the movie.
Clone Wars in real time! Spoiler by AttackingClone	Nov 13th, 2002 09:20:02 PM
I saw at TF.N that the clone wars are happening in real time. ie. they are happening right now, they go for the 3 years between Eps 2 + 3. And as we know they finish at the beginning of Ep3. I hope most of it is CG stuff (watching beast wars Series 3 yesterday makes me wonder how much further its come in 3 years). I guess the characters will have to be hand drawn. Also if this does happen (which i bloody well hope it does) it better be an ongoing story line, ie. dragonball z, not a whole story and different baddy each half hour. This could be damn good and keep me drooling till the movie comes out. Hopefully it'll start maybe a year before Ep3 (A Sith Revealed) comes out, and not just a few weeks before.
Genndy Tartakovsky may get his lifelong ambition after all. by ohms	Nov 13th, 2002 09:33:04 PM
He once said his dream would be to make a star wars cartoon, could happen now.
This is a plant.... by DJLetterbox	Nov 13th, 2002 09:42:23 PM
To "smoke out" Harry's source at Lucasfilms.....just wait and see ....oh and Shrub should be so proud I used his expression Letterbox
TheForce.net MessageBoard moderators get FREE AOTC DVDs from Jos by DarthSapient	Nov 13th, 2002 10:09:11 PM
You ever been to theforce.net's messageboards the JediCounci.net aka "The JC"? They are fucking a GHEY. I should know, I am a moderator there and I smoked a lot of cock to get my mod position. It works like this... TFN's forum moderators (who hate AICN by the way) buy the AOTC DVD. The JC moderators then send their DVD receipts to TFN's Joshua Griffen. Josh then sends the forum moderators cash back. Have you registered at TFN's forums? http://boards.theforce.net Register there and I will ban your ass faster than Carter-TFN can hit on a underage girl with a official TFN Ladies Clones TShirt. Show me some love dawgs, Show me some love.
Getting back the people who made 'droids' would be like getting by TheGinger Twit	Nov 13th, 2002 10:21:18 PM
Mark my words, these cartoons will be state of the art!
Rouge Squadron? by St.Buggering	Nov 13th, 2002 10:30:05 PM
Is that the musical version directed by Baz Luhrman? Hey, we've already got Ewan McGregor, we're halfway there.
I hope this series doesn't have Blue Yoda in it. by DarthSapient	Nov 13th, 2002 10:35:06 PM
Blue Yoda Society, you should see what we say about you niggs in the JC Mod Squad. Well soon you shall see what we say about you in the JC Mod Squad God damn it people. What, do all you Blue Yoda Society members have Downs Syndrome or some shit? Peace to yo' middle east, my niggs. Peace to yo middle east.
Yippie! by JAGUART	Nov 13th, 2002 10:44:38 PM
The Jar Jar Binks Adventure Hour.Well George is finally getting his way by getting to play with his kiddie shit like he originally started back in 1999. I'm sure there will be plenty of "robots" dying in those episodes.
bwstarwars = worst theme poster ever. by Wino-Forever	Nov 13th, 2002 11:19:27 PM
You're no chaffro, brother!
could go either way by midwat	Nov 13th, 2002 11:22:58 PM
This is a project that could either be incredibly good or mind-dullingly bad. Will Lucasfilm avoid its visuals-over-story tack as of late? Will it be an attempt to pander to a younger audience, a la Jar Jar Binks? Will the wooden writing that plagued the prequels rear its ugly head? I'll give Lucasfilm the benefit of the doubt for now.
i feel sorry for that spy by jondoejjj	Nov 14th, 2002 12:24:44 AM
that spy is about to be given the boot...right now he's probably sweatin' and filling out applications. Harry, be careful with your sources.
Harry's Secret Source is Rick McCallum or George Lucas himself. by Regis Travolta	Nov 14th, 2002 12:26:48 AM

STARRING CHRISTOPHER WALKEN by squonk	Nov 14th, 2002 12:48:22 AM
AS YOUNG TARKIN AND CHARLETON HESTON AS YODA
oh please lord george of lucas, no anime, i beg of you by MeatCleaverMojo	Nov 14th, 2002 01:40:13 AM
i swear to god if i see any jedi with big pointy hair and huge eyes i'll go on a cross country killing spree straight to skywalker ranch. you bastards wanna talk about raping a childhood? anybody been watching the new transformers?? they turned into fucking pokemon. in the armada comic the minicons are a cool idea. in the cartoon it's like you have to "catch em all". i'm fucking sick of anime. the animation is great but japan is just fucking weird, they need to keep their weirdness and their raw fish to themselves. anyway, this has potential to be so good...please george, don't fuck it up, k?
Some sketches from awhile ago... by Toonimator	Nov 14th, 2002 01:54:35 AM
...silly, but I like 'em. http://www.suesrock.net/home/t oonimator/sbook/sk_swsketches0 1.jpg
What a.. by cooper2000	Nov 14th, 2002 02:36:32 AM
Crap Idea. Figures Lucas would do this. What a hack, Hope its better than Episode 1 and 2 of course I wont be watching.
Could be cool... by pungaboy	Nov 14th, 2002 03:47:14 AM
The beginning of Episode 3 is supposed to show the end of the clone wars - at least this way George could throw in a little more back-story. And maybe he won't have to tie up the million loose ends he has left, all in Episode 3. Maybe they could figure out all that Sipho-dias stuff in the cartoon and just cut to the chase in Ep. 3. I guess the key for this series to be any good, is that it exists within the continuity of the main storyline - that stuff actually HAPPENS and it's not just a bunch of cutesy little side-stories. As for the art-stlye... Some classic GI-Joe animation would probably do the trick. Maybe a couple 3D tricks for holograms and computer displays and stuff. Whatever happens though, I hope it's good.
An Animated Series From Lucas!!!! YEAH!! by The Founder	Nov 14th, 2002 04:08:59 AM
This was long over do, I hope it kicks @ss, and please I hope they don't tone it down for the kiddies, it has to be on a league with the Superman, and Batman series, and Batman Beyond.
It will not be good. Havent we learned! I havent. by Jon E Cin	Nov 14th, 2002 04:45:57 AM
It will be too kiddy..I want it to be cool and super bad ass..like how everyone here would make it..but lucas is will have control which means it will have an awful comic relief side kick character thats probably some lame ass droid named Glo-Glo and we will all hate it and Old ma lucas's response will be..."its for the kids" instead all the kids are gonna watch cowboy bebop instead! Why you say?..because kids think adult themes are cool. remember when you were a kid when star wars wasnt targeted toward 8 year olds, we loved it! somebody tell this to old man lucas. Is it me or has he turned into the unfunny/unhip grandpa at everyones thanksgiving dinner?
HOLY @$*#(!! ILM should do the show, ALL CG !!! by Darth Siskel III	Nov 14th, 2002 05:04:54 AM
Every single frame of Ep2 is a work of art. ILM should do the CloneWars cartoon, and ALL CGI !
supposedly Ep. III occurs at the tail end of the clone wars and by Tall_Boy	Nov 14th, 2002 05:25:10 AM
just listened to the Ep. II commentary and lucas said he always wanted to show the clone wars in action -- with only 2 movies and ep. 3's story kinda leading towards the end of the clone wars (think about it, you can't have the climatic vader/ anakin & all the jedi die & rise of the empire in the middle of it) there's alot of stuff to fill in. I hope this works, but I don't get the freakin cartoon network. dammit.
OH HELL YEAH WHAT A WEEK FOR STAR WARS FANS I JUST HOPE THE CART by jon-e-blaze	Nov 14th, 2002 07:30:29 AM

Uh-oh! by Demon Disco	Nov 14th, 2002 07:36:01 AM
I agree - if this is true, you couldn't get better than Paul Dini to write the thing. But be warned - that would make this animated series FAR superior to the tragically inept movie prequels that inspired it. Hell, I'd watch jut to see Lucas so grandly upstaged! Clearly, Dini and his crew are much better storytellers than ol' Georgie Boy. But, sadly, somehow I just can't see Lucas relinquishing control to talents far above his own. It would prove once and for all that Lucas himself is the Star Wars universe's greatest enemy.
Too good to be true! by SOCOM242	Nov 14th, 2002 07:36:39 AM
I just love Mr. Lucas If this gets greenlighted, I won't be able to contain myself. I can't wait!!!
WHAT ABOUT THE DUDES WHO WORKED ON ROUGHNECKS? by Spyda Mann	Nov 14th, 2002 08:45:16 AM
What a slag, I was just finishing writing my third movie on this very subject. Cos' I thought it would be cool to extend the Clone Wars so I wrote a couple of short (ish) films on a platoon of ground troops and how they progress through the war. and look what they go and do... Oh well, so long as it aint that fucking crappy cell animation and they throw a bit of tradition into the series then I'm happy. Or even if the deal falls through with cartoon network (GOD WILLING) and Lucas approaches the dudes who worked on ROUGHNECKS. That would be cool too.
The comics are doing the Clone wars as well by holidill	Nov 14th, 2002 08:59:32 AM
Pick up Dark Horse Comics' Star Wars Republic comic. The Clone Wars start in an issue or two.
This Is What the Clone Wars Needs!!! (If They Don't Fuck It Up, by NoCureForFools	Nov 14th, 2002 09:26:26 AM
the snippet of the Clone Wars at the end of AOTC was a lot of fun and cool as shit, but it was only a sample. i want full on stories (sorties?), battle campaigns, Seven Jedi guarding a villiage of hapless peasent aliens vs. the robot hordes, i want to see developing tension between Jedi and Clones, i want to see, damn i want to see the sort of full on dramatic space war coolness that only an animated series can give (a live action tv series would be terrible beyond belief i think). hey, maybe, if Lucas is smart, he'll get Paul Dini on board along with Leiji "Star Blazers / Yamato" Matsumoto and the ghost of Kurosawa! heh. well, there's always hope. i just hope this is good, and aimed at the correct target audience -- ages 15 to 35, not ages 2-9... please, Lucas, please! we love you when you don't fuck up! (and forgive you when you do) **** btw, clearly AOTC is a mixed bag of a film, but the DVD rocks. it gives you the power to skip over the pointless bits and fat and get right to the meat, the fun, the good parts of the story. it makes me appreciate the film alot more, although i recognize that the film does suffer from extended bits of exceedingly bad dialouge and wooden performances, the good parts make up for the bad parts, methinks...
What a scoop! by rev_skarekroe	Nov 14th, 2002 09:47:40 AM
Is this from the same source that told you the Millenium Falcon was going to be in Ep. 1? Or the one who said Darth Maul would look like Spike-or from He-Man? Or the one who sent you the names for characters that were all anagrams saying you've been fooled? Or the one who sent in the "make-up" test of an older Obi-Wan? sk
Done in the style of the new He-Man... by CorranHorn	Nov 14th, 2002 10:05:34 AM
This could be cool.
What about all the unresolved issues from EWOKS? by MonsterZeroOne	Nov 14th, 2002 10:11:48 AM
Like, when is Princess Kneesaa gonna get her freak on with a Wicket and Teebo three-way already?
About the Boba Fett bit on the DVD ... by MonsterZeroOne	Nov 14th, 2002 10:18:23 AM
Isn't it weird that the quality of the old footage from the Star Wars Holiday Special looks like the same shitty bootlegs we've been trading for years? That's aside from the crappy quality of the footage from the original trilogy they used in the documentaries ... it looks like someone just patched in their home VCR tapes for that stuff. Crap crap crap.
Will we FINALLY get the official Origin Story for by Trav McGee	Nov 14th, 2002 10:20:16 AM
...Bea Arthur's plucky singing Tatooine bar owner? ("Is that a tear, my friend..?") And I betcha dimes to donuts that Chewbacca's father Itchy plays a pivotal role in the Wars to come...
Walrus, you crack me up by Terry_1978	Nov 14th, 2002 10:38:27 AM
I love Shake and Meatwad.....man, when the movie theatres start showing animated shorts before the movies again, I want Sealab and Aqua Teen shorts to be shown before PG-13 and R movies soooo badly.
Judge Ye Appreciation Society by nomadic	Nov 14th, 2002 11:24:23 AM
Great idea if it's properly excecuted. Thank the Lord the Judge won't budge! All hail the pose of prose! Here he is weighing in at 400 pounds of pure bull, He's so great, reminds me of Krull. Big up the JUDGE!
Oh, That Wasn't A Cartoon In The Theaters? OR... Crossing Over by jollydwarf	Nov 14th, 2002 11:28:24 AM
You mean that wasn't anime that I just watched again on DVD? Hey, as long as there's no "love haiku" shit, I'm down. Any chance of Sidious and Dexter conspiring during sweeps week?
Great idea wrong time period by ThingsThatTimDog	Nov 14th, 2002 11:44:14 AM
I think old George would be better served by creating a series in the past. He would have much more freedom to create new stories and characters.
Smart Move on Lucas by Starbuck1975	Nov 14th, 2002 12:26:31 PM
Lets face it, he wasted an entire movie of storytelling with Phantom Menace...he had to reintroduce all of the characters, where it would have been better had he just jumped into the action and started at AOTC. He doesnt have enough time in EPIII to cover the scope of the Clone Wars, Palpatine seizing power and becoming the Emperor, the fall of the Jedi, the rise of the Empire and Anakin's turn to the dark side. This animated series allows him to flesh out the Clone Wars, and focus on Anakin's turn to the dark side in EPIII. One continuity aspect that bothers me is that Obi Wan states that Owen didnt want Anakin to follow him on some idealistic crusade. To maintain continuity, Anakin has to leave the Jedi order and return to Tatooine. Something happens that causes Obi Wan to return to Tatooine, convincing Anakin to take back up his lightsaber...with a pregnant Padme left behind on Tatooine. I dunno.
Crawfish Jones, you ignorant slut... by Sea Bass	Nov 14th, 2002 12:26:36 PM
We haven't seen a second of the clone wars yet. All we saw was a rescue operation. Most of the trade federation ships escaped and the villains were all smiling at the end. And how can any war be spoken of as "romantically"? It's a fucking war. You children who want to bash Star Wars because it's your older brothers' movie franchise, and all you have to grow up with are gay wizards need to come up with better reasons for hating it.
Cartoon Network programming by Ambrose Chappell	Nov 14th, 2002 12:44:25 PM
If CN gets a Clone Wars cartoon it might be likely that they would be able to run reruns of Ewoks and Droids. Now THAT would be doubly cool.
ARGH!!!! by thej762000	Nov 14th, 2002 01:01:43 PM
I keep thinking about how I'd like my favorite animated series of all time, ROBOTECH, to get turned into a live-action movie..now one of my favorite live-action movies(EII was live-action, wasn't it?) gets turned into a damn cartoon. Farg.
Great news! by Andel Crodo	Nov 14th, 2002 01:26:58 PM
Perhaps now the prequels will be done right.
Star Wars is McDonalds by WeedyMcSmokey	Nov 14th, 2002 02:14:50 PM
I just think I didn't see it when I was younger - the genius of this franchise is in marketing - not product. I don't necessarily feel cheated, because the originals are still great flicks - but I do think the problem lies in the fact that the originals spoke of the past; these huge events that seemed so much larger then the characters - giving it the mythical epic quality that an oral history, a story possesses- and now the task to actually show these events reveals it to be kind of hollow and rote. Now we have Clone Wars cartoons and Who's the Man? Yo-da man! It's just dissapointing - the personal stories of the characters seem kind of secondary to a chain of events that eventually lead us to part 4. Its just too fatalistic.
http://www.ifilm.com/ifilm/produ ct/film_info/0,3699,2456970,00.h by Respect The Cock	Nov 14th, 2002 02:27:49 PM
A Clone wars cartoon?!? Wow, that's great news...FOR ME TO POOP ON!!! (cut & paste the link)
Too Cartoony? by GhostPoet	Nov 14th, 2002 02:35:25 PM
I pray they don't go for the saturday morning cartoon style.(ie...people jumping out of their vehicles before they explode) It better at least keep to the seriousness of the movies.
DVD results in by Darth Melkor	Nov 14th, 2002 02:38:18 PM
Get this. The AOTC DVD sold 4 million copies on Tuesday. The LOTR Extended sold 1 million. I love them both but love SW more so I'm excited about this ass whipping.
DVD results update by Darth Melkor	Nov 14th, 2002 02:44:38 PM
I've been informed that no a million copies of the LOTR ED weren't sold. That's how many were shipped, not moved. My bad. Supposedly New Line shipped only 1 million copies of LOTR. Fox did 15 million of AOTC, and Columbia did 26 million of Spider-man. Monsters Inc. is the biggest release ever with like 27 million.
more money for emperor Lucas by Dragonfire	Nov 14th, 2002 02:52:17 PM
I didn't think much of the droids series, or the ewok series, but this one will probably be along the same lines anyway if it's true. It's so hard to feel enthusiastic about anything star wars related these days.
I'm not kidding when I tell you... by ThatKindOfDay	Nov 14th, 2002 02:54:53 PM
...That this will be the WORST kick in the face, bag over the head, stomp on the groin by George Lucas EVER. For all of you who hated Jar Jar, wait until he unleashes a "cute" NEW alien character for you to chew on. And if he DOES use popular characters (Obi, Anakin, Mace, Yoda), then what could the storyline POSSIBLY call for? An adventure PER week. Every week, the heroes go to a planet, fuck things up Jedi-style, leave. Insert cute teenage alien character wherever, insert something mystical/scary about Yoda's past to frighten and freak all SW fans out. Also, insert more Anakin going bad garbage. OH, and let's not forget some "cool" Jedi that they'll probably be working with. You know, so they can do like in the old X-Men cartoon, use 'em for a week, then lose 'em. (Nightcrawler, Colossus, Banshee). In my opinion, I'd like it to be a late-night cartoon, on Cartoon Network, wherever, doesn't matter, and it SHOULD BE ABOUT the WAR. It should be about the massive ARMIES of Fascistic "Storm Trooper" cats marching through planet after planet, establishing rule and conquering whatever is in their way. Maybe even base it after one GROUP or UNIT of the Clone Troops. Get some good voicework, and stay away from "characters", except maybe a "leader" of some kind. Use some good morality plays, have the Clone Troopers question their lives, it'll be great. And have the finale be the end of the war, and it'll lead into the piece of shit that's destined to be EP.3. But oh well...I can always dream. Ciao.
Absolutely! Mark Hamill! by the boom	Nov 14th, 2002 02:56:50 PM
I totally agree. Get Mark Hamill to do some of the Voice work. His Joker on BTAS was outstanding. And it would be a very cool move to have him back on the ranch, so to speak.
YAY by WoodyStiffer	Nov 14th, 2002 03:02:44 PM
i stopped watching cartoons like these when i was 13. I just don't see how adults can get so revved up about a cartoon version of star wars.
What Has To Happen OR... What Should Happen by jollydwarf	Nov 14th, 2002 03:03:22 PM
You know, if Episode III is (essentially) everything that it needs to be, then it'll be at least 3 hours long with no less than a PG-13 rating. Why? Well, I'm getting to that. But I think that it's safe to say that Georgie Porgie is going to cut, compromise, and consolidate so that he gets his 135 minute film with a straight-up endangered species list "PG" rating. And "if you follow that to conclusion" then you know that the LAST SW MOVIE EVER!!! will be in a lot of ways the biggest letdown of them all. First, let's look at what HAS TO HAPPEN. The Clone Wars have to end (rumored to happen in Reel 1, a la the battle of Hoth), Anakin must duel Obi-Wan and become the mechanized Vader, the Jedi must be eradicated (wipe them out...all of them), Yoda must get to Dagobah, Dooku must be whacked, the Rebellion must be at least initially formed, the twins must be born and at least en route to their surrogate families, Obi-Wan's disappearing "death" trick must be explained (of course G-Lu could be lying), the droids have to be passed off to someone (memory wipe), the clone-stormtrooper transition must take place, and Darth Sidious must seize control unequivocably and become the Emperor. And I probably missed a couple items. Now, what SHOULD HAPPEN. A Sith expository scene, or a Sith-Jedi flashback. Obi Wan's apparent knowledge of Corellian freighters and/or Chewbacca. How Mon Mothma comes into the Rebellion. How the Mon Calamari become a key race in the Rebellion. Why the Tuskens abducted Shmi. The introduction of the Star Destroyers, Ties, X-Wings, etc. Grand Moff Tarkin's introduction. What happens to Boba Fett and where he gets HIS distinctive costume. The raising of the Palpatine statue. Vader being shown horribly disfigured/burnt/whatever. The fate of Padme and JarJar (even if they live). What's up with the tree on Dagobah? A sequence on Alderaan. The disbanding of the secessionists. Vader's primary digs or star destroyer. I could go on. But for now, I won't. The point is that no matter who you are, you're not going to get anything close to the movie you want. Between some poor casting and a vast narrative arc, Lucas has painted his franchise into a corner. Plus, you know that he's got to sucker y'all with tons more "Expanded Universe" literature. Why blow the whole load on the big screen?
Woodystiffer... by Toonimator	Nov 14th, 2002 03:41:49 PM
...cartoons can be just as compelling and enjoyable as any live-action, if given the chance. You stopped watching cartoons at 13? How sad for you. Another misguided soul believing the American/Disney illusion that animation is for kids. Or maybe you just didn't like Batman:TAS? Look at Canada, Europe, Japan... they'd flip over something like this, because in any of those places (well, most likely Japan), a series like Clone Wars would be treated well. Jar Jar might be a goofy sidekick in it, but he wouldn't be an Orko. They'd make it for the millions of ADULT fans as well, so it wouldn't be GIJoe where nobody gets shot, or even Samurai Jack where the only baddies that "die" are machines. There'd be conflict with consequences. Maybe CN & Lucas will give that a try, make a show more suited to fans older than age 5, and not insult anyone's intelligence with lots of flash and no substance. After all, they've already done the "flashy without substance" bit in the last 2 films!
Here's what I think... by screenplaywriter	Nov 14th, 2002 04:26:37 PM
Sure, it's a good idea, but why not make a cartoon movie just about the famed "Clone Wars" instead of an animated series that'll only last a year, or 2. I mean sure everybody would love to see this, but don't hand over the thing to "Samauri Jack" animators because they suck at drawing and don't hand over to people who just can't do normal cartooning, hand over the animating to "The Justice League" people and hand over the storylines to people who won't screw it up and make it look shabby. And if this is going to be about the "Clone Wars" they're better be clones dying, Jedi dying, and droids dying because if it's war than they should make the show at least TVPG
Oh, And Another Thing... OR... The One Thing I Don't Want To Hea by jollydwarf	Nov 14th, 2002 04:36:06 PM
While this would be at the very least a passable diversion until the LAST STAR WARS MOVIE EVER!!! (maybe), I don't want to be in the theater for Episode III and when some major plot point transpires and is only cursorily explained, someone explains to their friend "Oh yeah. You didn't understand why that happened? Well, it was in the cartoon..." Make this cartoon supplimentary and optional, not Episode 2.5 and required viewing. The movies should work on their own. There goes my idealism again.
Bring it!! by WhiskeyRiver	Nov 14th, 2002 04:54:28 PM
I just hope there's a major part for Jorge Casul, because I was just so taken with his action figure and was hoping they'd get around to telling his story at last.
Screenplaywriter, broaden your mind. by Toonimator	Nov 14th, 2002 05:20:26 PM
If there's one thing Samurai Jack artists can do, it's DRAW!! Ever heard of style? Design? Yeesh. Though a Star Wars cartoon in THAT style, probably wouldn't go over too well with your average viewer who knows zip about good design, let alone appreciates it. As nifty as it'd be to see a Timm/Murakami Star Wars (after seeing Timm's few published SW pieces, and Murakami's thumb-Chewbacca in Star Wars Tales), I wouldn't want the Justice League team on it. The house they've got animating it does an uneven job at best, and the writing's not quite there, either... though lately, Star Wars hasn't been about good writing. I don't know all the differences there were in the whole writing/animation team between Justice League & Batman Beyond, but the BB team had it together. The stories were tighter, there was actual character development, and the animation was executed with a lot more authority & style. Now, maybe if Genndy, Bruce, and Glen all teamed up on the design of the show... hmmm. Could be interesting!
Idealistic Crusades by Starbuck1975	Nov 14th, 2002 05:35:59 PM
The commentary between Owen and Luke in EPIV, and the comment made by Obi Wan to look about his father, create a backstory in which Owen and Anakin had some kind of relationship as brothers. Given the events of EPII, Owen has no bond with Anakin, nor would he give a rats ass if Anakin followed Obi Wan on some idealistic crusade or not. Why would Owen agree to raise Luke unless the tragedy of Anakin's fall created the obligation for him to do so. Without Anakin and Owen developing a tighter bond, the continuity gets farked. But then again, it is already screwed in so many ways, I guess it doesnt really matter.
well Georgie sure could do more to make this franchise a franchi by phasmatrope	Nov 14th, 2002 05:47:36 PM
If you think about it, it's little wonder how all these people, casual fans and hardcore fans alike, can trash the recent "Star Wars" movies for Jar-Jar this and Jango Jr. that when that motherfucker waits 3-20 years per film. I mean, think of the wealth of second & third-party material that's been created about the "Star Wars" franchise. You've got the books, the video games, the Dark Horse comics, the old Marvel Comics series (shit, there are even some pretty good spinoff fan-films out there).... granted, we don't need a full-on live action feature film for each spin-off story or character (at least, not if the best they can give us is a goddamned Ewok movie, and personally I'm a bit tired about all of the Revenge Of The Return of From The Depths Sarlacc Boba Fett shit), but even if it's just a Cartoon Network/Saturday morning animated show, or regular straight-to-video animated feature films, that would still keep people happy, and curtail the kind of lethal anticipation that's being reaped on these new films. "Star Wars" could easily be more of a fantasy franchise (it's more deserving of such than that geek Harry Potter). I think the "Star Wars" series is even bigger than Lucas himself. I mean fuck, why should it die with him, when it could go on and become that much more. If you think about it, it's really just another mythology, with fantasy that anyone should be able to enjoy, to create. It's not like these stories are personal and unique to George Lucas' own experience of growing up playing with lightsabers, you know? All he really did was set the guidelines, the themes; he didn't even write some of the best films of the first trilogy (shit, for that matter, John Williams has probably had a much more of a lasting presence than him). Case in point, "Star Trek" continues to have a huge fanbase and interesting material even with Roddenberry gone, while James Bond--which, being bound to the conventions of the real world (or as much reality can exist in an action movie)--has MUCH less potential for unique & fantastic stories than either of those two, yet it's still chuggin' along long after Ian Fleming kicked the bucket. With all those Dark Horse comics alone, you probably have enough material to sustain another 10 live action "Star Wars" films. So maybe if the Lucas estate were to somehow take over the franchise after crusty ol' Georgie departs this world, supervising each film, hiring the best and most committed actors and talent, like Cubby Broccoli does over the Bond franchise (or better yet, get those writers and fans who HAVE been writing all those books and comics under their employ and finally give them the validation that they so crave), really, how badly could they fuck up?
If this does come to fruition, I so badly want this to rock! Bu by Red Raider	Nov 14th, 2002 07:51:29 PM
yes, Paul Dini producing this would be great. We'll see what happens. One thing's for sure: If someone other than Lucas directs the episodes, it'll probably be the first time ever that animation acts better & has better dialogue than the live action counterparts!
my path to the dark side begins by MeatCleaverMojo	Nov 14th, 2002 08:13:22 PM
cause i sure do hate all of you fuckers. all i said is i hope it's not some anime poke-wars garbage. but the rest of you, not knowing anything about it except there are supposed plans for a clone wars cartoon, are condemning it already. do you know it will suck? no, you sure as fuck don't. do i know it will be good? no, i sure as fuck don't. i can tell you one thing, it won't be cowboy bebop, thank the lord. i was showing this site to my 9 year old neice, and she said you were all assholes. out of the mouths of babes. even a 9 year old knows you guys are fuckheads. please die a painful and slow death, all of you.
I just want to know when Lucas is going to release a digitally r by Red Raider	Nov 14th, 2002 08:17:41 PM
...you talk about the funniest shit ever presented! You'll go into convulsions from laughing so hard at how big a turkey that so-called "show" was!
um, harry by SimpsonsQuoteMan	Nov 14th, 2002 08:57:44 PM
so what youre actually saying is that its not actually confirmed AT ALL even in the SLIGHTED????? advanced talks, pffft
Please Use a Bigger Font the Next Time by chicagofilm	Nov 14th, 2002 09:10:20 PM
Harry, Please use a bigger font on the opening page the next time so the title takes up all my screen real estate instead of 80% of it. Thanks.
MeatCleaverMojo by JediApple	Nov 14th, 2002 09:18:34 PM
MeatCleaverMojo is the Man! Enough Harry! Give MeatCleaverMojo his/her own site! I'm laughing my ass off from this guy. Where can I get my own MeatCleaverMojo t-shirt!?!?
OMG WTF BS by CharlesHasBalls	Nov 14th, 2002 09:46:45 PM
HARRY IS GAY, LETS SHAG UP I LOVE YOU
Honestly, they should think about it by IGGMCMC	Nov 14th, 2002 09:59:52 PM
I don't see the reason for so much material for star wars. It's going to be too fantastical and all those myths that star wars has borrowed from and purports to protect would disappear. It would just all turn out to be a cartoon or worse, a video game.
Tying in to Ep III by The Hillbrothers	Nov 14th, 2002 10:25:18 PM
In Ep III the stakes of the Clone War should be upped. Clones fighting robots is a cool Sci-Fi notion, but there is no real sense of threat. Just nuke (or use whatever Star Wars equivalent) the damn droids from space. I want to see clones fighting human(oid) armies. Clones fighting clones would be cool. Perhaps that text comment on the DVD about the Kaminoans having cloned before (duh, they're "cloners"), along with the Kaminoan Prime Ministers claim that the army is "ONE of the finest" ever created, indicate that Sidious already has a clone army made and waiting to be unleashed against the republic's clones?
Why does this article say "Confirmed" on it? by Smeg For Brains	Nov 15th, 2002 12:09:15 AM
This won't be confirmed until someone from Lucas or Cartoon Network actually officially announces it. Confirmed does not mean "someone I can't tell you about says this and I believe it, but you have no reason to accept it as truth because there is nothing more than my word to say it is real, and you all remember those times I was wrong, like with that Jar Jar Racers thing".
jediapple by MeatCleaverMojo	Nov 15th, 2002 12:51:03 AM
thank you for your support. you have now made my very short list of talkbackers i don't want to see get hit by a bus then pissed on by a three legged racoon. sadly i don't have any t-shirts to send out. the rest of you cum gargling wastes of oxygen can fuck right off and go straight to hell. ass aliens.
Episode III Speculations... by NJM	Nov 15th, 2002 01:16:27 AM
You know, Lucas needs to listen to his own advise more. Remember him saying, "A special effect is just a tool, a means for telling a story. A special effect without a story is a pretty boring thing." Although, on the other hand, he SHOULDN'T as Yoda says, "Always looking off into the future. Never his mind on where he was, what he was doing." He SHOULD look to the future because NOW he's got a 2 hour exposition scene for a movie called "STAR WARS: EPISODE III". Unless he ties things up in a few broad strokes, this is going to be one long exposition scene of a movie. I mean, we KNOW Boba Fett is gonna off Mace Windu, thats a given! Other than that, it's all up there waiting to be pieced together. Also, Lucas says on the EpII commentary that the person who's altering those archives in the Jedi Library (or whatever it is) will be explained in EpIII along with how Yoda makes a connection with Qui-Gon during the Tusken massacre scene. He just keeps on adding to his workload. He should've revealed SOME of these things in Episode II, but it's too late. He should've answered questions on Qui-Gon, Dooku, Palpatine, and more. And is it me, or do all of these characters seem like IDIOTS to you as well? I mean, Palpatine is manipulating EVERYTHING in the Senate, taking EVERY advantage to gain FURTHER power over everything & everyone. Oh wait, he's a politician....it's normal behavior. Also, I have ONE piece of advise for Lucas: Go back to Leavesden Studios, build some REAL SETS, and cut back on the CGI shit. Be more like LOTR, blend models, detailed minatures, & CGI to make a more REAL world. I mean, how FAKE does Palpatine's office look? The desk, the floor, the couch by the door, all of it looks like some cheap, homemade CGI rendering. Also, that scene with Obi-Wan, Mace, & Yoda talking before Kenobi departs for Kamino looks TERRIBLY fake! I mean, the space scenes looked GREAT, Yoda looked GREAT, the land war looked GREAT, and so, why can't you deliver convincingly REAL enviroments on Coruscant? I mean, I didn't notice really ANY of the visual tricky they used in LOTR until I heard Peter Jackson's commentary point it all out, but in SW, it's painfully obvious. I'm bored, goodbye. -NJM
well let's see, what's on the agenda for Episode III??? by phasmatrope	Nov 15th, 2002 02:40:12 AM
NJM, I couldn't agree with you more. Georgie will sure have his hands full with this final film trying to tie everything up. In no particular order, we basically have to cover: a) the twins being born, b) Anakin & Amidala's marital strife when he can no longer use his mechanical hand to satisfy her, c) Clone Armies/stormtroopers exceeding their power, fascism reigns, everyone complains, d) Dooku revealed to be conspiring with Palpatine, Palpatine reveals himself as a Sith, says fuck all you whiners, this here's gonna be an empire instead, e) everybody's reaction after Palpatine reveals himself, slapping their collective heads with a big Homer Simpsonesque "doh!", f) we reveal who's been fucking with the library records (Palpatine, but hey, they'll inevitably mention it), g) Anakin & Amidala's marriage completely dissolves/Amidala gets killed/murdered, h) Anakin finally decides Jedi fuck off and switches over to the Dark Side, i) everybody realizing that that Anakin's one mean sumbitch and they gotta protect the twins, j) twins get separated, Uncle Owen decides to form opinion that Obi-Wan's just a crazy old coot, k) Jedi Council broken up/Jedi arrested/assassinated, j) Mace Windu gets killed (an event in and of itself), k) Dooku gets killed, l) Moff Tarkin gets introduced, Imperial hierarchy appointed, m) Yoda hightails it for Degobah, n) Obi-Wan finally confronts Anakin and says hey fool! What'chu think you're trying to pull!!! or vice-versa, they fight, o) Anakin gets fucked up and has to go bionic to maintain his life, p) Obi-Wan somehow salvages Anakin's lightsaber to pass it on to Luke, q) Jar-Jar dying (hopefully), r) the Rebel Alliance starts to form, Mon Mothma possibly introduced, s) a semi-happy ending bittersweet so the film doesn't simply end like some kind of Stormtrooper Triumph Of The Will propaganda film, and everybody doesn't leave the theater in a funk, r) many other details that I've overlooked and SHOULD be covered, but will no doubt be passed over in favor of many other superfluous scenes, like one set in "American Graffiti" retro 50's space diners with alien characters we haven't met yet, and don't care about. I mean really, is there one fucking person out there right now watching these films who DOESN'T know that Palpatine's a Sith lord? (maybe that'll be a surprise years from now, when our kids are watching the entire series for the first time in chronological order, but for the time being, it just means we as an audience know more than our protagonists do, so pretty much nothing we see can come as a surprise. I swear, if George had only learned to edit himself and skipped the damn diner-type scenes and gotten down to improving the bare essentials, he could have done so much more for the characters, and not have ended up with so many loose ends to tie up in the final episode, thus making everything that much better. Oy vey.
Yo Da man is an awful ad... by Dolemite_fan	Nov 15th, 2002 03:40:09 AM
campaign. My brother woke me up the other morning to show it to me on MTV, and I thought he was bullshittin'...he wasn't. That ad is sooo...XXX or SPIDER-Man or something, its just un-cool, and in ten years that add will be as laughable (though not as fun) as the old NES commercials for RAD RACER. If this CLONE WARS cartoon series comes to fruition, and I really hope it does, it would turn out to be better than EP.I,II,III put together most likely. I wouldnt worry about the style of animation, that'll be on-point, but the story could get tired if they make it 60 episodes, I was thinking like...12, but then again, I dont know how cartoon series work or anything. Maybe Lucas is looking at the potential (I should say the SUCCESS) that the ANIMATRIX will have, and hes trying to jump on that. Anyway, back to CLONE WARS, my theory is that it'll be better b/c there will be little to no pressure b/c they wont have to make people pay to see it, like with the films. I think this could be great if done right, and I'd like to see it.
The people who should do this cartoon are..... by Dj Tiesto	Nov 15th, 2002 04:01:05 AM
the guys who did that fantastic show "GARGOYLES" back in the mid 90's. Now that was a goddamn kickass cartoon that was action-packed and serious. I loved that damn show so much, even at age 14-16 I was still watching it everday after getting home from school. You guys know the one..the Gargoyles cartoon with Keith David, Jonathan Frakes, David Warner, John Rhys-Davies as Macbeth among other great voice acting talents. It was THE cartoon in my life, right up there with TRANSFORMERS. This Clone War cartoon does sound interesting though. I hope Lucas makes it GOOD and not cheap out like with the Droids and Ewok cartoons, which bascially had nothing to do with the trilogy. You guys know that McGregor, Frank Oz, christensen and portman and sam jackson would never be caught dead doing the voices for this show..but you never know!
Cowboy Bebop by dassanie777	Nov 15th, 2002 04:08:20 AM
better written in toons than Paul Dini. I love Batman, but Cowboy Bebop blows them all out of the water. as well written as anything cartoon or live action on television. Adult Swim, 11:30, or just buy the DVD on ebay. . .
if you missed it before.... by MeatCleaverMojo	Nov 15th, 2002 06:01:58 AM
in my spider-man and daredevil talkbacks, then here's your chance to check it out star-wars style. once again i'll break down the talkback formula for you. here goes: "i claim to be a movie geek, but i hate every movie that is made, so i'm just a geek. the star wars prequels made alot of money and alot of people went to see them so i'm not allowed to like them because i'm so deep and hip. harry gets inside information and i don't, therefore he's lying and even though it has nothing to do with movies or this site i'm going to call him a fatty. i'm so fucking cool, i can pick apart anything. even though i work at mcdonalds and dropped out of community college, i am the worlds deepest and most insightful movie critic. oh...did i mention i know a movie or t.v. show is going to be terrible before it's even made?". there ya go kids, that's what you'll get day in and day out around these parts. fucking cock clowns.
Wonder how Dark Horse Comics feels now... by slwalsh	Nov 15th, 2002 06:24:18 AM
Lucas told them that they would get to tell the story of the Clone Wars in their monthly Star Wars series (exclusively, we all thought at the time). Now there's gonna be a cartoon too, telling the story of the same exact time period...... Next on Springer!
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Don't forget that Turkish Star Wars 2 is on the way! by Declan_Swartz	Nov 15th, 2002 10:49:43 AM
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Fettastic! by halberkill	Nov 15th, 2002 10:59:39 AM
Oh, my freind, you are one of the suprisingly few people who get it. I see a round black floating interrogation droid in your future. In the (updated for modern times) words of Sting: "I hope the Americans love their children too."
What's "Rouge Squadron?" by Hyde01	Nov 15th, 2002 11:01:07 AM
Is that like a group of prostitutes who tart themselves up to troll the back alleys of Mos Eisley? This "Clone Wars" cartoon will be great, if they do THIS: [long, detailed, rambling screed, salted generously with near-pedophiliac remarks about Natalie Portman]. And they need to avoid THIS: [long, detailed rambling screed denouncing various stylistic choices made by other cartoon producers, salted generously with near-pedophiliac remarks about Natalie Portman].
Coruscant too CGI??? by Starbuck1975	Nov 15th, 2002 11:44:39 AM
AOTC may have had a lot of problems, but Lucas did achieve a seamless and believable integration of CGI, models, sets and other digital trickery. Most of the scenes incorporated the digital placement of good old fashioned models and puppets. That's right, instead of having some guy hold a spaceship against a blue screen with a stick, ILM now builds a real life sctatch build model and places it against the blue screen with a computer. I thought the effects work in FOTR was very stiff...if you noticed, most of the heavy effects scenes were muted with a blue/grey hue. I also thought it was interesting the amount of collaboration Jackson and crew had with the Lucas crew, where Jackson several times on the FOTR DVD admits to lifting techniques mastered by Lucas in terms of visualization, storyboard, concept art, and all the other components that have made the Star Wars universe come to life. Sure Lucas cant direct to save his life anymore, but you cant deny that WETA lifted everything they know from ILM, and that nothing can touch the work done by ILM.
fettastic... by Nordling	Nov 15th, 2002 12:08:57 PM
I may disagree with you on movies, but dead on I am with you politically. Thanks much.
an interesting question arises, which is... by TV CASUALTY	Nov 15th, 2002 12:12:47 PM
Will this be as cloying, over-plotted and dull as Attack of the Clones?!?!?! 'Cuz if so, sign me the fuck up!!!! OK, my sarcasm got away from me for a sec there. Sorry.
Thanks for being a crack head and inserting the Episode III Spoi by ARCTURUS	Nov 15th, 2002 12:14:25 PM
So now I know how Episode III begins. Ain't it not cool news.
Traitor Windu OR... Traitor Adi Mundi by jollydwarf	Nov 15th, 2002 12:25:42 PM
Or how about both? While this has probably been brought up somewhere else (many times, even), it seems that there are many clues that indicate that these two are both playing Sifo-Dyas. First, in TPM, they both immediately deny the existence of the Sith. (Yoda isn't so sure) Then, they both dismiss Dooku as being behind Padme's assassination attempt. Sure, it could be Jedi arrogance, but I'm not so sure. Then, they both flank Yoda in the council. Maybe working together to cloud his foresight and insight? Plus, neither of them look particularly friendly. There's more to consider, but I'm at work now, so... Ultimately, I'll bet at least one of them erased Kamino from the data banks, because it would be silly to have it be one of the glorified Jedi extras, and Count Dooku didn't join Sidious until after he left the Jedi order (or so it's implied). I've always been suspicious of Mace, but watching Ep II again on DVD got me thinking. P.S. Did Lucas say explicitly in the commentary that the stormtroopers are Jango clones? I think he did. P.P.S. This just in: Jim Rome just mentioned that the actor who played Ferris Bueller's principal is a child molester. Anyone hear anything about this? I wouldn't post it if I thought that Rome was joking.
fettastic... by pamelaNeko	Nov 15th, 2002 12:42:40 PM
Normally, I can't read through one of your posts without groaning and rolling my eyes 2-3 times. But while reading your most recent post, I actually grinned and nodded. You are so right. Whether you're right or left, our president is a fucking moron. Did you watch Journeys with George?
Rouge? Emporer? YEESH. by Philsy	Nov 15th, 2002 12:54:39 PM
I'm so very sick of people misspelling the following two words used in Star Wars lore: - Emperor (misspelled as "Emporer") - Rogue (misspelled as "Rouge") I want everyone who makes these mistakes on a regular basis to get off the internet and DO SOME READING. OK? Half hour a day, at least. People should need a license to use the net.
an AOTC animated series?!? HOLY FUCKIN' CHRIST!!!! by NeofromtheMatrix	Nov 15th, 2002 01:10:13 PM
I just LOVED that movie, saw it thrice at the theater! At this point, I'd be happy if they simply marketed a ROTJ saturday morning cartoon! - I know Kung Fu
EXCEPT 4 SW GEEKS WHO CARES! by matthooper8	Nov 15th, 2002 01:25:26 PM

Dear Neo OR... From Alex T. by jollydwarf	Nov 15th, 2002 01:26:17 PM
For the last time, NO YOU DON'T. "Is the tea iced tea?" "No." "Then I have no idea."
How bout SHADOWS OF THE EMPIRE by BowlingShirtcom	Nov 15th, 2002 01:29:28 PM
Bash me if you want, but I'd really like to see a SHADOW OF THE EMPIRE animated film. 5 years ago, they had everything - a video game, book, figures, even a friggin soundtrack - but no movie??? Yes, it's not the greatest story, but I'd much rather see Shadows with all of our favorite OT characters (well, except Han). And I'm sure Mark Hamill would be happy as a pig in shit to do Luke's voice! And why not get James Earl Jones a little Vader voice practice for his EP III lines, too? Any thoughts?
Fettastic, Thomas Anderson here... by NeofromtheMatrix	Nov 15th, 2002 02:03:01 PM
personally, I see George Dubya Bush merely as a pawn in a game being played by the masters of the world... "We're gonna turn the Earth into a living hell, devastated by endless pollution and neverending conflict, and when the second great depression and the subsequent third world war are finally upon us, the human race shall blame the incompetent and corrupt puppet in the white house, never suspecting that the Brotherhood of the Illuminati was responsible for their torment! LONG LIVE THE NEW WORLD ORDER!" - I know Kung Fu (fuck the agents of the Matrix, fuck them up their stupid asses!)
Fettastic, Thomas Anderson here... by NeofromtheMatrix	Nov 15th, 2002 02:03:15 PM
personally, I see George Dubya Bush merely as a pawn in a game being played by the masters of the world... "We're gonna turn the Earth into a living hell, devastated by endless pollution and neverending conflict, and when the second great depression and the subsequent third world war are finally upon us, the human race shall blame the incompetent and corrupt puppet in the white house, never suspecting that the Brotherhood of the Illuminati was responsible for their torment! LONG LIVE THE NEW WORLD ORDER!" - I know Kung Fu (fuck the agents of the Matrix, fuck them up their stupid asses!)
Yep by murgatroid1	Nov 15th, 2002 02:05:26 PM
I thought the same things when I saw AOTC. I wonder if Lucas is the next Nostradamus. The guy has quickly turned into a tyrant, and if you listen to his supporters they sound like supporters of a facists. They say thousands died to give people the right to protest so its a shame they protest and if they don't like Bush they should leave the country. Huh? Didn't they just say that men died defending the right of free speech and now they're mad that people disagree. They wan't everyone to think ONE WAY, kind of like what Anakin was talking about. Anyway, you hit the nail on the head. Back on topic the cartoon sounds cool.
fettastic OR... Sith Math Made Easy! by jollydwarf	Nov 15th, 2002 02:08:54 PM
I'll keep this to Mace and not politics here. I agree that the Sith rule seems to be a rather strict one, but don't forget that it was instituted by Darth Bane so that the discipline might survive. There used to be thousands of Sith (or at least hundreds). While it's not canon/"in the movies", it is in the Episode I novelization. Maybe Palpatine/Sidious sees this as an opportunity to seize power and unleash the Sith as the dominant force in the universe again. Plus, even without Mace/Ki Adi factored in, no one would have a problem with Palpatine being a midichlorian-free clone to throw everyone off. Sidious+Clone+Apprentice=3. Or at least 2.5. Again, I don't know who else it could be who's fucking with the Jedi from inside. Unless Lucas is indulging in shoddy story-telling. Nahhhhh....
i knew this would happen by MeatCleaverMojo	Nov 15th, 2002 02:19:52 PM
don't bring your star wars novel continuity into this. darth bane? was darth bane in any of the films? no, so he doesn't exist. chewie's not dead, han and leia don't have twins and there is no such person as mara jade. time in the star wars galaxy stopped right after the yub yub song and didn't begin until there was a trade dispute on naboo, we clear on this?i sure hope so. oh...and one more thing...i don't wanna make you guys cry or anything, but boba fett is fucking dead, he's in the belly of that fucking pussy with teeth on tatooine, he didn't fight his way out and dengar did not come and nurse him back to health. still hating all you pole pumpers. meatcleavermojo signing off.
Whoa there...you LIKED "Droids" ? by RobinP	Nov 15th, 2002 02:46:23 PM
Jeez, no accounting for taste.....I guess.
Continuity OR "I'll Take 'Especially Disturbing User I.D.s' for by jollydwarf	Nov 15th, 2002 02:49:02 PM
Look, I mentioned the Sith backstory reluctantly, as it's admittedly not in the films. But the novelization of a film is easily different enough (novelizations may expand on the film, but they don't contradict) than the Expanded Universe shit. Which most of it is. At least what I've read. The Sith have a history, and Lucas would do well to explain it in Episode III, so that it might become "Canon". Unless he's going to pass the reigns to some young'n to make the Jedi V. Sith Pre-Prequels. I could care less about organic webshooters or what happened after "Jedi" or Krypton blowing up. But to have this whole adversarial discipline and not explain it at all in the films is a joke. So in a way, I guess we kinda agree. Not sure if I want to agree with anyone with "Meatcleaver" in their User I.D., though. (Gulp)
by SonOfJorel	Nov 15th, 2002 03:14:26 PM
I do believe the history of the Sith is already canon, as Lucas himself recounted it on the (I believe it was this) commentary track to TPM.
agree with me, it's not a bad thing by MeatCleaverMojo	Nov 15th, 2002 03:25:43 PM
especially when i've made clear my motives of shooting a documentary about a guy who snaps and goes cross country pulling talkbackers intestines out their pee holes with a rusty coat hanger. in case you're just joining us kids, i hate most talkbackers, they claim to be movie lovers, yet they hate every movie ever made. i joined the talkbacker rands only to spread my own personal recipe for "good will towards man". but you're ok, so your intestines and your pee hole are safe.
fettastic, again with the box office obsession... by TV CASUALTY	Nov 15th, 2002 03:30:11 PM
what's up with that, anyway? and hey, go badgers.
"The finest starpilot in the galaxy..." by Toonimator	Nov 15th, 2002 03:47:31 PM
...yet another bonus a Clone Wars series could have: prove that Anakin's a damn good fighter pilot. One of my fanboy dreams of the prequels was seeing Anakin kicking butt in the seat of a snubfighter, in the middle of some heavy ROTJ-style fighter battles. Instead we get him fumbling around as a kid in a Naboo fighter, and driving a speeder on a pretty neat chase. Where's the "best starpilot" business? Unless the last battle of the Clone Wars in EpIII is an epic space battle, that's yet another thing GL's failed to explain. Anyway, I'll let you guys get back to your political debates & analogies...
future of Star Wars by Das_Heinrich	Nov 15th, 2002 04:00:10 PM
I think this is an expairment much like young Indy was, to see how good they can make an all CGI Star Wars for the future when George decides to make episodes VII VIII and IX. Face it the actors will be too old, so why not digitally create them. C'mon Lucas is like Jordan, he'll try to walk away but he won't be able to, lets just hope is VII-IX are better than jordan's jumpers.
You know it by Master T-MACK	Nov 15th, 2002 04:45:37 PM
You know Star Wars is so fucking popular when all these people talkback. This is fantastic news. George better not make this into a friggen anime adventure with those huge ugly ass eyes. All hopes point this series to reinvigorate Star Wars with a boost of power. The wait to May 2005 won't take that long after all.
What was the only good SW film and who DIDN'T write it? by cryptochrome	Nov 15th, 2002 04:55:57 PM
That's right, Empire, the only SW that really kicked ass. Folks, if Lucas keeps his insane mitts off the scripts this might actually be good, and if they put it via adult swim it might actually be better.
Hey, I wouldn't mind seeing an "anime-style" Star Wars... by Oh Hell	Nov 15th, 2002 06:19:57 PM
...if the "anime-style" in question happened to be that of AKIRA or SPRIGGAN.
'The Trade Federation made a deal that was hideous. They agreed by Brundle_Fly	Nov 15th, 2002 06:38:09 PM
Oh my God is that fucking gay!!! Star Wars rap....holy shit...
Joygasm! by Evil Chicken	Nov 15th, 2002 06:52:21 PM
My inner Geekboy glows with warmth.
The star wars cartoons! by IGGMCMC	Nov 15th, 2002 08:14:23 PM
Nuff said. Well not really. While this talkback may have sounded enthusiastic and astonished the closest emotions would have to be pity and dread. I have not cared for star wars since the phantom menace but for the sake of Lucas as a human being lets just say that I'd feel super sorry for him if he goes along with this.
This is going to rock! by Thol Sabirs	Nov 16th, 2002 02:42:06 PM
The battle at the end of AOTC is the single most amazing battle sequence I've ever seen. It was incredible. Now we're going to get 60 episodes of this? I can't wait.

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