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by Thelmatoo	Nov 7th, 2002 12:47:54 AM
Carter/Chen: no way. I love Carter/Abby together. There is way too much Corday. I think Er is off to good start this season.
ER is still good by Thelmatoo	Nov 7th, 2002 12:51:42 AM
I love Carter/Abby together.I'm looking forward to her storyline with her family.I say no way to Carter/Chen as anything more than friends. Can Corday please go away. I am enjoying ER this season more than last.
Chen? The ONLY female doc with spark??? I think NOT! by SkiffyPup	Nov 7th, 2002 01:03:12 AM
If they stopped doing "Abbey - in crisis - like - a - LIFETIME - cable - movie.. " storylines and gave her more fun and less "girl in crisis with family/boyfriend" stuff.... it would be all good.*** Re: Corday- She needs writers of the quality for brit dialogue of her previous TRIUMPH-- A very hot(-n-superior to Robin Penn's version)of MOLL FLANDERS. ( that was on PBS). sweeeeeet! ** And Carter? I am a little bit sick of his ick. Come to think of it... all their ick. They need a TRIUMPH, of the non show-ender kind... for lotsa their characters. Alll drag and no acheivement makes ER a dull buy.... (type over and over...)
How to save ER-bring in the cast of Chicago Hope by Anyawatcher	Nov 7th, 2002 01:04:13 AM
Get adam arkin, mandy patinkin, christini lahti and the Pretty Woman guy. Keep a couple of the ER regs and you'll have a show that can go on a few more years like NBC wants. ER has glimpses of it's old self but it just too boring 90% of the time. Fuck It, just show reruns of Buffy on NBC.
Schucks by Captain_Slapnutz	Nov 7th, 2002 03:06:41 AM
Awwwww, man.... NOW where are we going to go to bad mouth Birds of Prey? :(
The problem w/Carbby isn't chemistry -- it's the writers. by ShutUpRob	Nov 7th, 2002 04:07:36 AM
OK, admittedly, the chemistry between Carter and Abby isn't anywhere near as good as between Carter & Chen or even Carter & Lewis (Although I might not be objective about it as I kinda have crushes on all three of the actresses ;) ), but the problem isn't the chemistry. It's there. The problem is that the writers so very rarely write to the actors' strengths -- namely Maura Tierney's brilliant comedic timing (didn't anyone on the writing staff ever watch NewsRadio for crying out loud?!) and Noah Wyle's high-strung, puppy-dog earnestness. Two notable signs of life in the writers: 1) the scene in this season's opener of Carter checking out Abby's, like, tatoo when they were locked up in quarantine and 2) at the end of that episode (or was it the next?) when Abby went ahead and stripped and proceeded to skinnydip in the lake while Carter babbled on about how not spontaneous he is. They didn't need to go on about Abby's drinking problem or Carter's problem with Abby's drinking problem. The clash of the characters' basic personalities and styles is enough of a conflict in and of itself. **** Carter & Abby's mutual kindasortaflirting in the Halloween episode over their H-ween costumes leads me to think that the writers are starting to get it. But they're also showing dangerous signs of allowing Abby to get dragged down into her family problems again -- which means that both Carter and we the audience will be losing her again until the writers get through their misapplied but otherwise commendable obsession with bipolar disorder. And that's a shame, considering that Maura Tierney's one of the two best actresses on the show (the other being Sherry Stringfield, of course).
No, I have to disagree...no chemistry by Funkaboo	Nov 7th, 2002 07:56:10 AM
I'm sorry, they have zero chemistry. I think Carter has had more chemistry with flirting patients never to be seen again, than he has with Abby. There was more chemistry with the young student he was sleeping with and hid from Abby. The writers and the actress have done nothing to make Abby desirable. I don't mean just in looks. Kovac (sp) said it best during their argument at the train station - she's never happy and she's not even that pretty. What is the attraction? Why did both of these men find themselves drawn to her? She has a zillion issues, it's true that she's never happy, she's too much work and not the good kind. She's frumpy, sad looking, she looks older than I'm sure she's supposed to be, she just looks like a washed out alcoholic. She just looks...dirty. The one thing she has going for her, is that she's a very competent nurse. That doesn't mean you have to pair her with the male lead just because...does it? I'm hoping by season's end they put us all out of our misery and pair Carter with someone where there's a spark. Notice that he and Susan had great chemistry until the writers decided that they didn't and had them act as such in that one episode and even then, they had more chemistry breaking up than John and Abby do having sex in the shower. P.S. Carter has more chemistry with the pretty girl that works behind the desk that we see every third episode or so. Hell, he had more chemistry with the new resident that Kovac is going to sleep with.
the writers' slight of hand SPOILERS by savagexp	Nov 7th, 2002 09:55:41 AM
**This Post References Spoilers Mentioned in the story above** I'll agree that the chemistry between Carter & Abby isn't all that great, however I think it's rather incidental. It appears to me that the Carby thing is being done simply to give Kovac some conflict. Had Abby's stayed with him, some boring TV would be the result. The upcoming episodes with Kovac look to be good, and that's a relief because I've been waiting to see Goran show a darker side to the character. Remember kids: Watching people self-destruct is fun!
Shades of Dr. White? by Stephen Dedalus	Nov 7th, 2002 04:35:15 PM
(NOTE: I'm writing this after NOT having read the inviso-text spoiler, so if anything I say conflicts with that, please excuse me.) So does this mean that Dr. Kovic is going to become like Peter White on "St. Elsewhere?" Remember that? He was the doctor who starting having marital problems and took out his aggression by becoming a serial rapist. It was one of the few storylines "St. Elsewhere" mishandled, and I hope it doesn't go into that ridiculous area here.
Holtz is alive in Chicago by Anyawatcher	Nov 7th, 2002 10:42:36 PM
Tell Angel and Co. Holtz is a biker dude.
Leslie Bibb by Gazbert11	Nov 7th, 2002 10:52:44 PM
If I asked her really nicely, do you think she'd consider letting me sleep with her?
Saw the Ep. Maybe the writers are starting to get it about Ca by ShutUpRob	Nov 8th, 2002 04:03:20 AM
Savage -- no, I don't think that the writers are doing Carbby just as a way to monkeywrench the Luka-Abby story. There is no Luka-Abby story anymore. Luka and Abby have no chemistry as a couple -- but good chemistry as a broken-up couple. However, I think that Luka's current sexual harrassment storyline is being thrown in as a monkeywrench to the Carbby storyline -- which would be fine by me if it weren't for the fact that Carter & Abby have enough other sources of drama around them to complicate their relationship. Abby's mom & brother, Abby & Carter's substance abuse issues, Carter's parental issues. ** In particular, I'm starting to detect a slight Oedipal twinge to Carter's attempts to save Abby -- who's very much like his mother, IMO -- from her drinking, but I digress . . . And for those of you who don't think that Carter & Abby have any chemistry -- if you didn't see the obvious chemistry between them in the rec. room scene tonight, then you're just never going to see it. I agree that their chemistry isn't anywhere near as dynamic as that between Carter & Chen, but what they're trying with Carter & Abby is subtle in a way that they just wouldn't be able to pull off with the energy between Carter & Chen. The little dance that they did at the locker and their resulting conversation were nicely underplayed in a way that made good use of Tierney's comedic talents. If the writers had tried the same scene last year, they'd've done it without playing to Tierney's sense of humor and it would have died. Hopefully, the writers won't forget Tierney's humor next week as they have Abby deal with her brother's BPD. ** Speaking of good use of humor, the scene between Chen & Pratt at Pratt's apartment was much appreciated. Wells & Co. need to do whatever they can to keep Ming Na happy enough to stay with the show rather than try to snag yet another failed pilot. I'm starting to like Pratt, partly because the writers keep having fun finding ways to cut him down. First "don't call me Mikey" and now he can't even get past first base because poor Leon barges in on them! Priceless.
A "slight" Oedipal twinge in Carter towards Abby? by the G-man	Nov 8th, 2002 07:49:10 AM
Try full blown raging hang up. One of the characters, I don't remember who, already remarked that Carter had a fixation with older women and pointed out that almost every girlfriend he ever had was at least six or seven years older than him.
I agree with walrus by fixedbin15	Nov 8th, 2002 02:45:50 PM
see above
Why they fall for Abby by HDB	Nov 8th, 2002 02:52:04 PM
Projection. Abby's omnipresent personal dark cloud AND her almost cheerful resignation to it is the way both Kovac and Carter would like to handle their own inherent gloominess. Each one is vain enough to think he's not as much a downer as she is, hence they can play rescuer, helping her because they haven't figured out how to help themselves. Don't misunderstand--I like both Carter and Luka, and I also like Abby; hell, I think I dated her back in my misspent youth, figuratively speaking. It seems that as much as they worry about her, she's the one who's actually doing okay. I admit I have no idea what the writers are doing with Kovac at present. The sleepy eyes and dreamy voice hides the soul of a Douggie Ross--oh never mind. Oh, and re: the Chen/Pratt thing, it doesn't work because Chen's most entertaining character trait is her brattiness. Pratt's smothering "Let me take care of you, baby" routine squashes that, takes away what makes her charming.
it's becoming a train wreck ... by Lou C.	Nov 9th, 2002 10:28:18 PM
... i am getting sick and tired of all the previews for upcoming episodes where they promise things will happen ... and nothing ever does. the only 'holy shit!' moment i can think of in the last few years was when Romano's arm was sliced off. that was fucking great stuff! whoever posted above is right. Don Cheadle makes them all look like chumps. What an amazing actor. Hell, he was even good in fucking 'Volcano' for chrissakes. Mekhi Phifer is another one who is far too good of an actor to be on this show. I'v always liked Noah Wyle, but I'm sorry, he just can't carry the load. He was great in support of Anthony Edwards, George Clooney and, particularly, Eriq LaSalle, but he just doesn't have it in him to lead this show. I quit watching it a few years back when 'Murder One' was kicking its ass every week, and i'm starting to think about doing the same with another LaPaglia show, 'Without A Trace.' Poor LaPaglia. keeps rubbing up against 'ER.'
Please, please MAURA TIERNEY-- take my demon seed!!! by Eugene O	Nov 10th, 2002 11:33:59 AM
Oh, how I still remember her in those short skirts on NEWSRADIO. sigh...squirt

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